Just took out my predator today for the first time. The hold overs are right on. I also used some NATO 556 cause v Max is a little more expensive to shoot and didn't see much of a difference. I love it!
John Lewis with your predator optic and you fired 5.56 NATO was that 55 grain or 62 grain?? I'm just curious any help appreciated I'm considering the scope also.
Wicked shooting by all 3 of you. Nice optic too, nobody had any issues with range finding. Christ, you guys were hitting head shots at 500 with boring accuracy. Speaks volumes to all of you for your capability behind the trigger and the rifle, ammo and reticle. Very nicely done gentleman, very impressive.
I have a Primary Arms magnifier for the Eotech on my AR, it works great. Crystal clear optics for a good price. I would gladly use their scopes on anything I need one on.
Mr Dimitri I have one of your scope and love it, 4x12 ACCS reticule on a .308. Do you think there is some way you could make a small cheat "card" that could be made to attach to the stock? There is a lot of technical info for me to remember when ranging and estimating. Not a pro shooter here that needs to always remember the settings.
I picked up a PA 5x Prism sight 3 weeks ago and I could not be more thrilled with it so far. Clear glass with a great reticle, especially for the price.
I'm glad Remington little went to the half ranges Where I hunt in far west Texas you don't always have the time to check your range. Blinds and feeders don't work in all this country either. I'm talking bfe mountain ranges. You may spook the mule deer of a lifetime and he will be over or through the ridge before you know it. These suckers rarely look back long enough to give you the time of day This is the perfect product hands down
Eric i agree with you 100 % bro. Those Primary Arms are awesome and priced right for what you get. Their reticules are awesome and reliable too. Great episode IV8888 and enjoyed watching it.
just want to say that yes, PA optics are great, I like their reticles though I use another brand of scopes that I am used to. I want to give some respect to Eric's trigger fundamentals. The greatest scope in the world doesn't mean squat if the shooter fouls up the trigger or moves the rifle at the last moment. With Eric, this was like shooting from a vice or lead sled.
It's interesting that no one has ever stated the correlation between the 10-inch circle on this scope and the 10 in head targeting circle on there ACSS 4 x 14 HUD dmr reticle. They both seem to do the same job ;)
They are amazing Scopes though. I don't make the dough to purchase one. Last year for Christmas I got a text from my buddy who has a great paying job telling me to expect a package. Got a box and opened it and it was the scope I'd been drooling over. It took a while for it to soak in that I was holding it in my hands. Probably the most expensive thing anyone has ever gotten me for christmas!
You work at McDonald’s or are you on govt. assistance? Either way, get your life together. $300 is not expensive for a 1-6 and that’s coming from a blue collar individual.
Here in Baltimore, our cancelled carry, is chalk. So any civilian can draw around your dead carcass until the police show up. They may be able to tell from which direction you were shot. Be safe out there.
If you have an AK, SVD, or PSL you can get PSO and PSOP optics for around 300, they're actually pretty good optics. I usually get them from Kalinka optics for my AK100 series AK's from arsenal.
I'd sure like me that CZ.. Proper barrel lenght for shooting off a bench or a bipod.. CZ makes slippery barrels and that long thick pipe puts a .308 up where it belongs ballistically.. Beautiful stock too.. I gotta go and see if they sell those here in the Old World too.. Good shooting boys. Btw., Eric, this is just the kind of stuff us hunters like to see on your channel.. Practical solutions and options for practical dilemmas. Keep it up!
When Sheriff Arpaio proved Obamas birth certificate was a fraud, how many news outlets reported on it? Not one but 2 separate forensic labs confirmed 9 points of fraud and also they found the birth certificate they stole the info from in attempt to make a legit looking document. This was in Dec of 2016. A local FOX news channel covered it in Arizona and thats about as far as it went. National Media Fox did nothing fearing for their jobs.
The thing is what you mean by going off the reservation, he has sources for the things he reports on. When someone sites their source, like the GAY FROG thing for example, those that ridicule it, act like the study didn't take place. No one fact checks. He reported on a dang study done by a university, and sited the dang source. At this point knowing that, a person has to have a mental disability to still have a problem with the gay frog story, and their is no excuse for their ignorance anymore. When the facts are there, the facts are there. When he shows footage of military aged Islamic men beaching boats and storming the beaches of Spain, what other news outlet is reporting that? Refugees yeah right, more like a Hijrah, (migrating for the cause of allah) invasion.
Yeah pretty sad when the left gets praised for useing hate speech ans racism, and there are no consequences. Simone Sander responds the anti trumpers ripping white people out of their car, thinking being white they must of voted trump, and then start beating them gang style, and she say "OH POOR WHITE PEOPLE"
I have the 4-14 Orion on my 6.5 grendel 18” ar15 and with a 3/4” high zero at 100yds it is dead on out to 600yds using the bdc shooting 123gn hornady black eld and sst. The American Eagle 120gn bthp and 90gn jhp work well to but do hit a few inches higher. I love primary arms and have several other acss optics. With my ks47 the 1-6x (7.62x39) acss makes quick work of 4” and bigger targets out to 350yds. And the 1-6x on my 223 has been confined tons of times out to 400-600yds even got a couple of their prism scopes. Can’t wait to get the 3-18x sl with the hud reticle for my 243win or maybe even the new 4-16x gold line. These scopes are awesome and even for the guys that want top shelf quality glass they make the platinum line of scopes too.
Great video it was nice to see some video of the faxon flame flute barrel even though the video was about the primary arms glass I wish there were more information about the 20” faxon flame flute barrel but with that being said it’s a real issue determining which piece of glass I’m gonna put on top of that tube ( 20” faxon flame flute) primary or vortex isn’t Primary and vortex made in the same building
Nice stock on that CZ. And as Dimitri indicated, if you are going to run some other caliber/ammo combo, Strelok is the app you want on Android/iPhone as the reticle is there and can build you a custom dope card.
Im about to finish out a AR build. I've narrowed my optic down to: Primary Acss, or Vortex strike eagle 2?? Both have awesome reviews. Can someone give me recommendations/reasons for one over the other?? I'm drowning in specs, and want to make a educated purchase.
I'm shocked with vmax 55grain you're getting such anemic velocities WITH a suppressor which typically gives a slight bump in velocity. Recommend using a 3P polygonal 16" barrel from Columbia River Arms. I get 1/2 MOA results with a gen III ACSS @100yards and 2730 FPS (magneto speed V3) using magtech 77grain OTM. My 11.5" CRA barrel shoots sub MOA using a Raptor ACSS and nets 2500 FPS with the magtech 77grain OTM. Oh, and about 5 patches and the barrel is clean after over 100 round range day.
Eric I was rewatching the how far would a 9mm kill and I am in the process of making a single shot 5.7x28 break barrel and the farthest I can shoot is 100 yards and I was wondering if you could make a video on how far a 5.7 would kill. Also I love the videos you put out as there is always good information and you don't sugar coat stuff. Thanks and have a wonderful day
Always thought about buying an optic like this. Tried a few that friends/colleagues had & then go back and use my Mil Dot scope. Then I'd compare to see if there was any real improvement over using a simple Mil Dot. Haven't found any improvement yet for daylight shooting. Can still use Mil Dot for range finding, quick for hold over/under, large range for windage hold, & to me the Mil Dot still had a cleaner look when tracking a fast moving object. Some of my friends kept their new optics. Some switched to Mil Dot after I explained how easy it was to use & showed them by having them use it in practice at multiple ranges plus changing wind direction/velocity. It comes down to "whatever gets it done for you" at end of the day. Nice review & will have to search your channel to see if you did any reviews on Mil Dot scopes because I'm going to be looking for another one soon
I have no problem with the second focal plane on mine i actually prefer it if im shooting at anything over 100 yards im gonna be on max power anyways. And i prefer my reticle to not grow as my target gets smaller covering the whole target.
These scopes are cool, but whats the point? Get a vortex or nikon with a bdc reticle and then use their ballistics app to calculate the holds. The apps also let you factor in pretty much any kind of ammo and the velocity for super accurate holds.
It takes the same amount of effort to learn the drops on a vortex bdc as it does to remember all the marks on the PA scope. Keep convincing yourself that the fancy reticle makes you good.
Lol. Warne, geissele, faxon, fostech......not the kind of “parts” most people have laying around. And what was the magnification on this predator scope?
Yeah I guess this scope is a configured drs like the shepherd scopes drs but shepherd is 18 inches ⭕️ circles for big game or 24 inches circle ⭕️ circles for elks I love my shepherd drs pretty accurate 👍🏼👌😁
What would you recommend (optic) for an AR-47, quick acquisition for HOGs, i have a BCA .308 with the primary arms 14x - 44 illuminated on it, but i was looking for a tip in the right direction for some quicker acquisitions. Thank you for your videos btw
I know this is going to be not well looked at, but can someone tell Mr. Remington to look up Dr. Mike Mew? I think he would benefit massively from that, it's how to be handsome and it's easy to do.
Primary Arms puts out the best reticles in the industry! I own the 1-6x from them and is dead nuts out to 800 yards for me using 62gr ball
Just took out my predator today for the first time. The hold overs are right on. I also used some NATO 556 cause v Max is a little more expensive to shoot and didn't see much of a difference. I love it!
John Lewis with your predator optic and you fired 5.56 NATO was that 55 grain or 62 grain??
I'm just curious any help appreciated I'm considering the scope also.
That would be helpful to know whether it was 55 grain or 62 grain any help would be appreciated John Lewis?
Shout out to Tiborasaurus Rex for introducing us to swfa and primary arms optics. Great video. Great optic option. Great pricing.
Wicked shooting by all 3 of you. Nice optic too, nobody had any issues with range finding. Christ, you guys were hitting head shots at 500 with boring accuracy. Speaks volumes to all of you for your capability behind the trigger and the rifle, ammo and reticle. Very nicely done gentleman, very impressive.
I have a Primary Arms magnifier for the Eotech on my AR, it works great. Crystal clear optics for a good price. I would gladly use their scopes on anything I need one on.
😳 that’s some amazing shooting!! -Dimitri
Mr Dimitri I have one of your scope and love it, 4x12 ACCS reticule on a .308.
Do you think there is some way you could make a small cheat "card" that could be made to attach to the stock?
There is a lot of technical info for me to remember when ranging and estimating.
Not a pro shooter here that needs to always remember the settings.
Check out tiberousrex ? they make a dope card holder mounts on pic rail ??? think holds 3x5?
I have two acss optics, I use my 6x fixed power .22lr the most.
A chto nashi v kompanii???
Just sold me on the Primary Arms!!!!
Guys you made this video literally on the day that I planned on searching for optics for the AR I’m rebuilding and I couldn’t be more greatful
I picked up a PA 5x Prism sight 3 weeks ago and I could not be more thrilled with it so far. Clear glass with a great reticle, especially for the price.
I have the Primary Arms 1-6X24mm SFP on my Ruger American Ranch 7.62X39 and absolutely love it!
I love the Primary Arms optics. I agree about the art work on the box too. I guess because I've always loved drag racing.
I'm glad Remington little went to the half ranges
Where I hunt in far west Texas you don't always have the time to check your range. Blinds and feeders don't work in all this country either. I'm talking bfe mountain ranges. You may spook the mule deer of a lifetime and he will be over or through the ridge before you know it. These suckers rarely look back long enough to give you the time of day
This is the perfect product hands down
great option for sure!
Eric i agree with you 100 % bro. Those Primary Arms are awesome and priced right for what you get. Their reticules are awesome and reliable too. Great episode IV8888 and enjoyed watching it.
Jerry Johnson II reticle*
just want to say that yes, PA optics are great, I like their reticles though I use another brand of scopes that I am used to. I want to give some respect to Eric's trigger fundamentals. The greatest scope in the world doesn't mean squat if the shooter fouls up the trigger or moves the rifle at the last moment. With Eric, this was like shooting from a vice or lead sled.
It's interesting that no one has ever stated the correlation between the 10-inch circle on this scope and the 10 in head targeting circle on there ACSS 4 x 14 HUD dmr reticle. They both seem to do the same job ;)
I have trouble waiting to try out these scopes! :)
Good shooting guys. Dimitri & Primary Arms are doing some very good work!
What an awesome channel I stumbled onto it a while ago through a 5 guns video. Subbed and Belled right away I have not been dissapointed.
There are a ton of fun and informative videos these guys have done over the years! Welcome to the IV8888 crew.
Great shooting by Remington, stacked 3 of the .308 shots right on the face of the 500 plate!
With my income I don't see $300.00 as an inexpensive optic.
They do seem to be nice though.
Tim Allen get a job
5.56 Or 5.45? Fuck off man. 300$ is a lot for anyone making under 30$ am hours.
Will Parker under $30 an hour? Lol. If $300 is a lot of money for somebody making $29 an hour, they have made some really poor life choices.
They are amazing Scopes though. I don't make the dough to purchase one. Last year for Christmas I got a text from my buddy who has a great paying job telling me to expect a package. Got a box and opened it and it was the scope I'd been drooling over. It took a while for it to soak in that I was holding it in my hands. Probably the most expensive thing anyone has ever gotten me for christmas!
You work at McDonald’s or are you on govt. assistance? Either way, get your life together. $300 is not expensive for a 1-6 and that’s coming from a blue collar individual.
Here in Baltimore, our cancelled carry, is chalk. So any civilian can draw around your dead carcass until the police show up. They may be able to tell from which direction you were shot. Be safe out there.
If you have an AK, SVD, or PSL you can get PSO and PSOP optics for around 300, they're actually pretty good optics. I usually get them from Kalinka optics for my AK100 series AK's from arsenal.
I'd sure like me that CZ.. Proper barrel lenght for shooting off a bench or a bipod.. CZ makes slippery barrels and that long thick pipe puts a .308 up where it belongs ballistically.. Beautiful stock too.. I gotta go and see if they sell those here in the Old World too.. Good shooting boys. Btw., Eric, this is just the kind of stuff us hunters like to see on your channel.. Practical solutions and options for practical dilemmas. Keep it up!
His name was Alex Jones!
A modern day paul revere
When Sheriff Arpaio proved Obamas birth certificate was a fraud, how many news outlets reported on it? Not one but 2 separate forensic labs confirmed 9 points of fraud and also they found the birth certificate they stole the info from in attempt to make a legit looking document. This was in Dec of 2016. A local FOX news channel covered it in Arizona and thats about as far as it went. National Media Fox did nothing fearing for their jobs.
I didn't care for Alex Jones but he shouldn't have been banned. It set a dangerous precedent that threatens our freedom of speech on the internet.
The thing is what you mean by going off the reservation, he has sources for the things he reports on. When someone sites their source, like the GAY FROG thing for example, those that ridicule it, act like the study didn't take place. No one fact checks. He reported on a dang study done by a university, and sited the dang source. At this point knowing that, a person has to have a mental disability to still have a problem with the gay frog story, and their is no excuse for their ignorance anymore. When the facts are there, the facts are there. When he shows footage of military aged Islamic men beaching boats and storming the beaches of Spain, what other news outlet is reporting that? Refugees yeah right, more like a Hijrah, (migrating for the cause of allah) invasion.
Yeah pretty sad when the left gets praised for useing hate speech ans racism, and there are no consequences. Simone Sander responds the anti trumpers ripping white people out of their car, thinking being white they must of voted trump, and then start beating them gang style, and she say "OH POOR WHITE PEOPLE"
I have the 4-14 Orion on my 6.5 grendel 18” ar15 and with a 3/4” high zero at 100yds it is dead on out to 600yds using the bdc shooting 123gn hornady black eld and sst. The American Eagle 120gn bthp and 90gn jhp work well to but do hit a few inches higher. I love primary arms and have several other acss optics. With my ks47 the 1-6x (7.62x39) acss makes quick work of 4” and bigger targets out to 350yds. And the 1-6x on my 223 has been confined tons of times out to 400-600yds even got a couple of their prism scopes. Can’t wait to get the 3-18x sl with the hud reticle for my 243win or maybe even the new 4-16x gold line. These scopes are awesome and even for the guys that want top shelf quality glass they make the platinum line of scopes too.
Great video it was nice to see some video of the faxon flame flute barrel even though the video was about the primary arms glass I wish there were more information about the 20” faxon flame flute barrel but with that being said it’s a real issue determining which piece of glass I’m gonna put on top of that tube ( 20” faxon flame flute) primary or vortex isn’t Primary and vortex made in the same building
Great video Eric. Thanks for explaining it so well in layman's terms.
I own one of their optics and it is excellent! Great price for a great product!
I think the name of the original scopes that had those circle range finders was Shepard.
“The picture on the box matters ok!” 😂👍🏼 hell yeah it does!
Nice stock on that CZ. And as Dimitri indicated, if you are going to run some other caliber/ammo combo, Strelok is the app you want on Android/iPhone as the reticle is there and can build you a custom dope card.
you guys should try some centerpoint optics I was actually surprised with them.
Great video. That CZ is stunning
Those ASCC Apollo & Grid 2B reticle scopes under $280 with new Primary Arms Lifetime warranty! Seems like one of best deals I've found!
Im about to finish out a AR build. I've narrowed my optic down to: Primary Acss, or Vortex strike eagle 2?? Both have awesome reviews. Can someone give me recommendations/reasons for one over the other?? I'm drowning in specs, and want to make a educated purchase.
So satisfying seeing Remington shoot an “eye” onto the coyote Great Job!!!
@10:55
I just a 270 Winchester with a 24 inch barrel and need a scope. I might have to look in to this one more.
Could I use the 36 meter military’s sight in for this optic on a 5.56 ?
I'm shocked with vmax 55grain you're getting such anemic velocities WITH a suppressor which typically gives a slight bump in velocity. Recommend using a 3P polygonal 16" barrel from Columbia River Arms. I get 1/2 MOA results with a gen III ACSS @100yards and 2730 FPS (magneto speed V3) using magtech 77grain OTM. My 11.5" CRA barrel shoots sub MOA using a Raptor ACSS and nets 2500 FPS with the magtech 77grain OTM. Oh, and about 5 patches and the barrel is clean after over 100 round range day.
Dang, that kid stacked two headshots on top of each other at 500
that was a perfect eyeball man
great video, great shooting as always, keep going guys 👍
that 150 grain load is hauling the mail! and that is some good shooting.
Eric I was rewatching the how far would a 9mm kill and I am in the process of making a single shot 5.7x28 break barrel and the farthest I can shoot is 100 yards and I was wondering if you could make a video on how far a 5.7 would kill. Also I love the videos you put out as there is always good information and you don't sugar coat stuff. Thanks and have a wonderful day
Love it thanks for the video ... first time I’ve seen the sst used as it’s suggested 👍🏻by primary arms
That scope is a beast
Always thought about buying an optic like this. Tried a few that friends/colleagues had & then go back and use my Mil Dot scope. Then I'd compare to see if there was any real improvement over using a simple Mil Dot. Haven't found any improvement yet for daylight shooting. Can still use Mil Dot for range finding, quick for hold over/under, large range for windage hold, & to me the Mil Dot still had a cleaner look when tracking a fast moving object. Some of my friends kept their new optics. Some switched to Mil Dot after I explained how easy it was to use & showed them by having them use it in practice at multiple ranges plus changing wind direction/velocity. It comes down to "whatever gets it done for you" at end of the day. Nice review & will have to search your channel to see if you did any reviews on Mil Dot scopes because I'm going to be looking for another one soon
Deacon Blues this has the mil system in it but you ll be able to range and engage much faster and far more accurately.
Cz stocks are beautiful
Which budget scope would u use for a 6.5 grendel to reach 1000 yards?
I have no problem with the second focal plane on mine i actually prefer it if im shooting at anything over 100 yards im gonna be on max power anyways. And i prefer my reticle to not grow as my target gets smaller covering the whole target.
Can you do another torture test on like an M1 Garand or a M1903 Springfield?
You guys need to paint your targets darker colors for contrast.
These scopes are cool, but whats the point? Get a vortex or nikon with a bdc reticle and then use their ballistics app to calculate the holds. The apps also let you factor in pretty much any kind of ammo and the velocity for super accurate holds.
Brian X you go ahead and do all that, while you're prey is running away I would've already ranged, shot, and killed my target.
It takes the same amount of effort to learn the drops on a vortex bdc as it does to remember all the marks on the PA scope. Keep convincing yourself that the fancy reticle makes you good.
I’ve had good luck with PA, But I am more interested in which silencer your running.
Did anyone else see the the flash outside the ejection port around 10:25?
The reticle on the Orion reminds me of a mix of the Steiner GS3 hunting reticle and acss CQB
bolt actions and side by sides are superior hunting weapons
Christopher Campbell Haha. That's funny. But I don't think he really believes that. I think he's just trying to get a rise out of some people.
Andrew Delashaw I think so too. My goal was to make someone on this board laugh. Mission accomplished
Christopher Campbell Wasnt a Very original joke, But Ill say this you made me smile.
Great video, I'd love to see you test some other optics in this price range or lower for that matter.
Lol. Warne, geissele, faxon, fostech......not the kind of “parts” most people have laying around.
And what was the magnification on this predator scope?
MsBowhunter95 i was just making a comical comment. Trust me, i fully understand the builder market.
Predator scope is a 1-6
Does this scope come for AK-47?
Yeah I guess this scope is a configured drs like the shepherd scopes drs but shepherd is 18 inches ⭕️ circles for big game or 24 inches circle ⭕️ circles for elks I love my shepherd drs pretty accurate 👍🏼👌😁
Great deployment of an obviously excellent product.
I'm waiting on a 1x6 strike eagle to come the mail and I wish I would have ordered this scope instead.
Would this be a good choice for a 6.5 caliber?
Hey Eric, do you think y'all could do a video on the Primary Arms x5 Prism scope?
Nice shooting.
What would you recommend (optic) for an AR-47, quick acquisition for HOGs, i have a BCA .308 with the primary arms 14x - 44 illuminated on it, but i was looking for a tip in the right direction for some quicker acquisitions. Thank you for your videos btw
PA has a bdc for 300/x39 can't remember what type of zoom it had.
Can PA make a scope for white tail deer too? Please!
HI! I would like to buy such a scope(4x14), but with illumination such is there illumination or not? Thanks!
I wonder if this reticle will also apply for deer hunting??.
I need that coyote target
You guys should try some of the Athlon BTR scopes. I have one of their Talos BTR and it works perfectly.
I am really loving Primary arms
Everyone says gas system makes a difference was you using carbine or midlength in the 16in barrel
great shooting
thank you for making this video
I need a scope around this price for a 6.5 grendel. Will either of these work?
Sup bro, what scope mount are u using here?
That is 1 tough coyote
everyone praises the gun and or the optic.. Great job to the shooter.
What are your thoughts on the del ton echo 308?
Anyone put this scope on a ruger American ranch 7.62x39?
The ammo might be a little bit slower because of that suppressor 🤔!?!
What if i was looking for an optic under 300 to learn precision rifle craft?
I think it's the SST cartridge that's LOUD not the rifle...
Very impressed thanks.
Nice Scopes
That hornady varmint express ammo shoots like garbage in my gun probably due to it being only 50 gr and im running 1-7 twist on my Ar
It’s that season!
You need to have me as the special guest one day just saying
This scope looks like my shepherd scope drs 👌👍🏼
What would you suggest for long range precision shooting?
Is this a paid advertisement?
Love the new track. How far does it go?
Your suppressor is what's robbing your speed
Good vid. Nice to see some stuff the average person would buy. But did anyone notice how gassy the AR was?
It’s probably the suppressor making it alil over gassed
What round where you shooting ?
I know this is going to be not well looked at, but can someone tell Mr. Remington to look up Dr. Mike Mew? I think he would benefit massively from that, it's how to be handsome and it's easy to do.
could be lower velocity in a gas operated rifle vs a bolt gun.
at 600 the coyote deserves to live :)
ArtisanTony ahaha they do
What do you think about SIG optics?