Primary Arms ACSS Platinum 1-8x24mm & ACOG Shootout
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I feel like a scopecam could have improved this video by a lot. Pretty much the whole video just watching you hold a rifle and can’t see any of what’s happening on the range either. Most of us are watching this on a five inch screen. So we got the benefit of your research, but I think it would have had more impact if we had the feeling of being able to experience it ourselves. Appreciate all your work.
They're solid optics for sure.
Mrgunsngear Channel , Good to see you, I bought the Primary Arms scope on your recommend and love it, killing deer with it.
How do they compare to the vortex strike eagle?
Indeed
@@PSNGamer I believe Grand Thumb has a video comparing them.
@@PSNGamer It absolutely blows the Strike Eagle out of the water. The Razor Gen 2 is a more apt comparison and even then I'd give the edge to the ACSS because the reticle is just that good.
No disrespect intended. But I think it is funny when people say 4 power is a limited range. I remember being in the Army and having to qualify with irons, wishing I had a scope to help with the 300. Then I eventually got issued an M16 with an aimpoint dot. Then an M4 the an aimpoint. The dot was a step up, but still no magification. Once I got used to it, I definitely fired better. One time, we had a particularly long day at the range and a lot of ammo to use. My rifle started jamming from all the fire, even after quick cleaning and lubing. So my 1SG made me use his rifle to keep shooting. His had a 2 power ACOG. It may not have been much, but damn did the magnification make a difference. Don't get me wrong, I understand that the 6X's magnification helps much more. I also understand that at the end of the day, it comes down to shooter discipline. But I have a different view on the ACOG. If it is a mid to long range rifle such as the AR platform, I would say that any magnification is helping more than limiting. Still, love your vids. Always informative!
They didn't charge you because you have millions of people watching.
I was going to inquire if the experience would be the same for those of us without a top-shelf RUclips channel =)
N weezy 6 min in and i was thinking the exact same thing so i scrolled to see if someone else posted lol
You might be surprised by how top shelf companies treat their customers, in a good way.
lol no crime.. LMT didn't charge him to fix his rifle
i don't doubt that, though its funny how sometimes low and middle shelf companies have way better customer service overall than top shelf. IE Smith and Wesson, Ruger, walther have amazing CS. Ive never dealt with LMT but I would wonder if they would do that a random customer.
You need a scope cam
On these reticle videos you can put a picture of the reticle in the top left corner where there is no action only trees.
Glad to see you figured out how the ACSS reticle works.
I may be wrong, but I think Trijicon is now putting the Primary Arms ACSS reticle in the ACOG. I have 20 Primary Arms optics including 6 ACSS 1-6X scopes plus the new Raptor with first focal plane. You cannot beat these things for quality at a great price.
videos like that are perfect to eat in front of the computer.
just watch and keep shoveling xD
Yeah, 37 minutes to slowly eat food. Not a damn dreakfast or fast food shit. =)
90% of content is in fact consumed during lunch break consumption.
Pyro Royal be careful, that’s how blimps are born.
Micheal Peterson Rest on the toilet.
I really want that reticle in a 2-7 scout scope. It would be perfect for an m1a
I have a 4-14x44 ACSS DMR scope on my GII 308 Recon and it's immensely fun to shoot. Just point and click.
Kyle Sonsalla same here , its near stupid proof. I love the acss reticle.
I have a 3x for the 7.62x39 cartridge and I can hit 600m like nothing.
Someone loves their PA scope lol
I have a PA 1-6. It gives a great advantage
Iraqvet8888 continues to put up great vids that we want to see! Yall do a great job
You guys should have an image of the reticle where you show us your hold for each range! It would be great to know each hold in real time kind of thing.
5 nut shots in a row. Rounds stacked. Chad, "you're in there". Fuckn love this channel.
LOVE my primary arms prism 5x. Really good build quality, and the etched reticle is awesome.
I have one of those, it's excellent. Only wish I'd taken the chevron instead of the dot. It's a little tougher to hit those longer shots with the dot. But it's nice and clear glass, crisp reticle, bright illumination in red or green, and great for shooting up close with both eyes open, too. I'll probably pick up another.
once you acss you never go back.
You know it.
4 sho!
when your thinking about the Vortex Razor HD Gen II i might not go back. i dont know what i WANT!
I honestly dont like it
Trijicon acknowledged as much, as they licensed the ACSS for the ACOG.
That's why LMT MRP is the best platform period . Being able to switch between piston and DI is a game changer . Crazy it's been out since 2004ish. Their CS is absolutely the best for military and commercial market.
I fell in love with the 1-8× ACSS, TA31 and TA44 .
I got the "cheap" PA 1-8 ACSS. Mounted on a Chilean military Imbel FAL built on a CAI upper receiver using a DSA mount. Shot a 24" gong on a mountainside at ~775 yards, standing with rifle supported on my SUV's spare tire. Ammo: 1973 Indian 7.62x51 surplus 147 ball. Fantastic scope transformed the FAL, even with what is not considered very high quality ammo.
Damn.... That ACSS is a keeper. Very impressive.
I have the same scope, but Silver Series (cheaper glass?); but I love this reticle. It does SO much while being easy to learn and remember. It's just a common-sense reticle that is a serious tool for your eye without cranking on the tube at all.
Love Primary Arms. I just ordered a ton of affordable gear from them!
Silent capture spring and a suppressed bolt and carrier will make it a quiet rig. A test in the future on that?
As a Lithuanian its nice to hear good response about GGG ammo
Could you do a review and meltdown test with an FN FAL
Man it’s my dream to have a range like this where I can walk my rifle from 100 yards and up :(
Select the ACSS 1- 8 a few months back. Just haven't bought one yet.
I watched the very same comparison on same scope today with 3 guys...one being Dimittri that Invented the ACSS of Primary Arms.
It's all fine advertisement for PA...they are one of my favorite companies I buy from.
But damn. Spread these out.Last week it was the same deal on the 1-8 Platinum bu 4 guys and also on the O-Light Flashlights
I would like to see a direct reference to the recital you are using for the specific yardage so we can get a general idea of the hold overs and exactly how you are using the recital to make these shots.
Thanks!
An 8x did better than a 4x at 600 yards? Crazy!
Mrgunsngear sold me on the PA 1-6x ACSS. Got one on the way from opticsplanet right now. Thanks for your updated review. Wish I had the cash for the Platinum.
Lol.. you can tell Eric is slightly frustrated with Chad's persistent commentary on the wind. Lmfao.
Adam Smith so was I! 😂
This channel has become one giant ad
Nikon has good optics as well.
The GGG ammo 8s fantastic stuff in 55 and 69 grains, we ar shooting a lot of it here in Switzerland and it compares totally well with our GP90!
minutemanqvs yeps, here in Germany I use the 55gr ones too. 20€/50 pieces if you buy 20 packs
I like to put your videos on while I am at the reloading bench
Just a casual observation but I have these exact scopes on 2 AR-15s one is a 14.5 BCM and that rifle with this exact ACOG will hold paper plate size groups at 600 yards with the ACOG. It will honest to God shoot 8-10 inches or less at 600 even when hot. The ticket is I shoot quality 77gr matchkings. I don’t even fool with the close up zero I just get close and take it straight to 300 and 400 yards. Once you get it dead on at 300 everything else lines right up! The reason I brought this up is because those 77s are much less affected by wind I have no where near the wind issues that Eric and Chad are with that particular ammo. I don’t even use 62 anymore not for anything I don’t even own it because it is trash. There are better and worse SS109 projectiles but they are nothing to write home to mom about no matter who made them. That penetrator really screws with stability past 300-400 yards it is honestly a 2 MOA projectile at BEST!
the ggg nato ball costs about 380€ per 1000round box where i live (austria) and for being just plain factory ammo it holds pretty good groups (2 inches at 100 meters just with a reddot on my friends AUG)
Just picked up the ACOG ACSS. Can't wait to test it out.
Glad you like our ammo!
Lewis Machine & Tool Company is by far one of the highest quality AR-15 you can get...premium military grade
How do they compare to the vortex strike eagle?
if you graphite lube the follower channel and/or keep it clean, Lancer mags are some of the best. No high temp swell.
The Gun Collective just dropped a RUclips bombshell
Would like to see a video on the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8
Just bought the Gen 3 1-6x ACSS, can't wait to sight it in
Cory Hobbs how did the 1x6 work for you or would you wish you had the 1x8 Thanks in advance
Gonna miss you Eric rip it channel my friend
I know this video is old but I finally tested my Platinum 1-8x w/ the original ACSS out to 600 yards using 69gr SMK w/ Varget going 2900fps. Managed to smack a 10-inch plate pretty easy! I’m definitely sold, only took me like 2 years to test my scope 😂
can you do a video on how to zero a 6.8 spc or other non 308, 556 for the PA ACSS?
I second that
Stop picking stupid guns
That 1-8 is killer!
I have hit 700 yard targets with a Tavor using a aces reticle in a 4 power. Acog it a good system
Please make a Gun Gripe about the recent bombings as soon as yall are able to. Yall make awesome videos!
I love the ACSS reticle. Good shooting
LMT probably rebuilt that for you because you showed that awesome upper ran like a scalded dog, while taking a bigger pounding than the cheapest lady of the evening. It was a great showing!
If you are using ACSS reticle why not just use the much cheaper PA ACSS 1-8 scope at $389 instead of the Platinum scope at $1300? A saving of $911 is more scope and ammo else where. Platinum is great for dialing up and down but ACSS is set and forget. Assuming the cheaper 1-8 zero will not drift once set.
Exactly the video I have been looking for! Thanks!
Wouldn't shooting from a raised position screw with the bullet drop calculations? I guess the agnle isn't big enough to effect.
lerch400block actually you are probably correct without knowing the height of their platform hard to be sure ...they did say one time when they 1st built it
Press Shop at certain angles gravity is affected. Tedsholdover has a great video explaining this.
Press Shop Greater the vertical Height and Angle, the less the actual distance. If you are shooting at a given distance, then shoot from a vertical position, it can require less MILs. That is why an Angle Cosine Gauge is a vital accessory on an ELR setup.
watched a vid with Dimitri running a 5" yarn in front of his rail if wind blew 5 or 7 oclock 2.5 mph wind if at around 4 or 8 5 mph wind if moving at 3 to 9 with a whipping action 10 mph wind if you had cross wind you would cut the distance down a bit etc just a thought he mentioned it was a light weight none maintenance no battery accessory
can you also add the barrel twist in your vids? thanks
I'm a personal fan of German surplus. Can't remember the designation since I'm at work on break but it's a nice consistent load.
I think we need to see you shoot an AR-15 with an ion bonded bolt carrier and a 1 to 6 magnification Trijicon accupoint. I believe this setup was described as robust and precise
Every time Nancy Pelosi opens her mouth a wind picks up somewhere lol
Lancer had some bad followers from their supplier, you prob have one, contact them with your mag info and they can tell you and ship you new ones lancers are the best mag available so far...
Less talking - More SHOOTING! Seriously though great episode!
need an adjustable gas block so you can turn it down a bit when you put the suppressor on, a bit over gassed.
Ghost Shadow ...🤔😐😑. I sincerely hope that was sarcasm or a facetious comment.
test them on your SCAR, they're notorious for killing optics
@Chris J Williams I think only 17, could be both
Someone's a little sensitive
"keep your snotty comments to yourself." says the guy who just told someone to get off his mommy's ipad and go play Call of Duty about ten minutes before posting this comment. Genius!!!
I have a 2-8x vortex diamondback HP and a 1-8x primary arms acss (cheap version).. There is no comparison on how useable the acss reticle is compared to the Vortex.. They are the same price optic, but the acss is worth 2x as much IMO.. I have no trouble out to the 500yd mark at my range with the acss, but the vortex is not marked and leaves you in "no mans land" with any sort of wind hold, with no ranging capabilities..
That Lithuanian ball ammo is awesome! It shot less than an inch group in my PSA! Tell Ray V. I said hi! Good shooting.
So I’m curious how does the acss reticle fair with say the black hills 77gr OTM out of a 16” pipe?
keenan walker you must zero at a different range.
you pray and hope the reticle is good for your load.
keenan walker It'll be way off. You'll just need to figure out what marks work for you.
and hold it in space/wrong yardage. Might as well just get a regular milling reticle.
Fine, zero about an inch high at 100 yards
I would like to see a review on the victory firefield 2.5-10×40 out to 600 yards. It is a luminated mil dot reticle with a laser built in on the side of it. I bought 1 at accademy sports for $90.00 and it seems to be a good optic but i only have a 100 yard range to shoot at. Thank you for all the valuable information that you provide us with.
New regs suck i voiced my opinion to google i also downloaded full 30 also buying a t shirt to support you eric we love yah man
Do all the turrets lock? I don't want to be accidentally turning on the illumination. Thanks
The upper's a little gassy? Look what's on the end of your barrel, Einstein.
If you had really wanted to showcase these two optics, why not set out steel targets at unknown distances and then use the reticles to range them and makes hits.. Any BDC reticle can make easy hits if you already know the range.. just a thought
Good customer service is what separates the men from the boys.
I'd really like to see the prism 3x vs the acog go head to head see if the pa prism is a tuff and rugged as the acog drops slaps hits. We all know the 1200 bucks for the acog is rugged as a tank but can the prism take the same abuse
This shows that LMT piston AR is damn accurate.
If you haven't already you should make an AR wildcat cartridge video comparing several, like .277 wolverine, 7 raptor, .25-45 sharps ect...
Waiting for my PA 1-8×24 to come in. @2:10. Soooooo, what search terms should we be combing the boards with to get this Lithuanian 556 ammo?
I was just wondering how a Palmetto Defense lower with a Accu- trigger mounted with the Adams Arms 11.5" Voodoo barrel with a pinned and welded faux moderator would do using the ACSS reticle in ACOG and the 1-8 scope you used for this video would do out to some of the ranges you were shooting. I only ask because I have this setup and am using a NcStar 2-8x28 mil-dot and am getting 1" groups at 200yds. I know everyone is laughing at me hard right now but isn't that sub moa accuracy? I ordered the stripped lower and used a DPMS parts kit with the exception of the trigger. The trigger is a polymer setup from a full polymer lower that broke at the back where the buffer tube screws in from a 2" drop on carpet! So I sought some advice for a good lower and was told to go with Palmetto Defence instead of Palmetto Armory and it mates up to the Adams Arms upper gloriously. It is a very tight fit and the only thing I can think of is that the tight fitting of the lower and upper combined with the 11.5" barrel which is very thick doesn't allow much barrel whip giving it its accuracy. It's also a 1:7 twist and I am shooting 75gr. Privvy Partisan ammo that is Match King bthp. I get the same result from M855 62gr. LAP PMC X-TAC PMC rounds at 2920 FPS. Any chance of trying it out?
Is the thumbnail a representation of how to get maximum long range accuracy?
wow never knew my country makes good ammo
So, why did that bolt carrier fail from the meltdown? Heat treat I assume?
I'm considering buying the Primary Arms FFP ACCS reticle offa Amazon to try out. It's $400 without a mount.. and Iits aboit twice what I can even begin tk afford to spend. However ide really like to compare it to the Monstrum 1-6x FFP with their MOA whatever reticle... I really wish Monstrum would make a FFP 1-6/1-8x LPVO with the ACSS reticle for like $275 with the one peice mount... That would rock.
Is that the ffp or sfp version of the Primary arms?
Sure wish you would zoom in on the target so we could see it.
if you had a 20" barrel do think u would have had a little more accuracy and precision connecting at 600 yards using the acog?
Eric, where are you scoring the M855 ?
Wow that’s really good shooting with a for power optic out to that distance that’s really good. I actually own the 1to 6 x 24 PA scope. I actually have two of them one set up on my AK-47 and one set up on my Keltec 5.56 bullpup
Can you test the 70 grain barns vor-tex ammo will that reticle. I have a 24" barrel on my AR an they shoot amazing groups with a velocity of 3075 fps. Wanted to see if that reticle would work with the 70 grain pill.
Sweet shooting!
Man it blows that i just ordered one a week ago and the next day out of stock... I have to wait a month for restock..
Go for the Gofer! I like that.
What sight do you prefer?
Please do a video on your thoughts on a Acog clones aka Fakcog
how would you compare the PA optic to the vortex razor in terms of durability and ruggedness?
Idk if anyone is even on this anymore but what’s the difference between the silver and platinum series?
Hi Eric, I like this Primary Arms Platinum 1-8 x 24 product. But what would you compaire it to e.g. Nightforce or Trijicon Accupower ?