Paper weight Door stop Bacon press Fishing weight Model boat anchor Improvised weapon Blunderbuss ammo Hitching post for anemic mice I'm sure there are more, but those were the first that popped into my mind.
I mean, they're basically for making things marginally harder to get into. Sometimes that's totally sufficient, you know, in a "keep the kids out of the shed" kinda way.
I bought one of these locks and put it on my back fence. It stopped the problem... which was my dog flipping the catch with her nose and taking untethered walks. I bought it not because I thought I was getting "level 5 security" like the package proclaimed, but because it was the cheapest lock on the shelf. I just wanted something that looked better than a bent coathanger through the catch. Masterlock: Smarter than the dog.
Frankly you can’t really use them for training. I have no clue of lock picking and was able to pick this new version of the No. 3 with a normal hook on the first attempt in hardly 5 seconds. Raking most of the times takes two seconds.
And remember, he'll sound just as smooth in the courtroom... so when you need to impress a judge, hire this'un! "Your Honor, my client did not mean to pick the lock; it fell open while he was examining its pinning." ;)
I remember going into a locksmith's store at one point and they had a number of locks for sale and they were all Master locks. I asked the guy if he had any other locks and he told me that was the gold standard. I chuckled to myself and walked out.
Lol “locksmith” store. As you well know, they’re just standard, not the gold standard. They’re cheap, which makes them popular. They’re good for your self esteem if you’re having trouble with a harder lock though.
Thank you 'Master lock' people. The number 3 is just the ticket for a newb just starting out. (like me). The vast majority of comments seem to be coming from folks whose fist attempt easily picked a six pin, paracentric, sprung core, loaded lock with spool, serrated and mushroom pins. Some of us were not born so gifted. Many of us will graduate to much more challenging locks after long, dedicated practice. p.s. not yet having a white belt, I must rely on suspenders.
He managed to get a couple easy ones, you can tell by the keys. I got 3 of these, one has a key that looks like the first one he opened (on the left at the start of the vid) that will open easily and 2 more that are a lot tougher.
Lol idk where you live but the crappy master locks I've bought in the past were about 15each at the cheapest but they still were not worth locking anything up worth the price of the lock. A well tied knot on some Kevlar rope would be better.
You'd think they would at least make their locks inconspicuous. Not only is it a bad design, but it is easy to recognize visually from further away than any other pad lock in existence. There's nothing quite like a mini Master billboard advertising free stuff. My old man used a bunch of these. It's a good thing he's cheap and never has really nice stuff to steal. The real question is can the popularity of LPL and internet culture raise awareness enough to kill such a tenured brand? This could become an interesting case study for 21st century business practice and modern consumer awareness. I know I would never buy a Master Lock branded product solely due to what I've seen here. -Jake
Physical security is so interesting. Id argue a master lock 3 is not as bad as you might think in the real world. Working from the assumption the lock is protecting something not incredibly valuable so there is no justification for putting an expensive lock on it. Most pad locks are susceptible to twisting or cutting attacks. Those are no skill attacks that are for more common than picking. So it does not really matter if you spent $20 more dollars the lock gets defeated either way. However, there are definitely times people should be putting at the very least a medium security lock up and have no idea how shitty master locks are.
No, I seriously doubt the internet will kill Master Locks. The average consumer doesn't do a second of research, they need a lock, they go to the store, they buy the one that makes them _feel_ most secure. This is something solid, steel, advertising durability (many years ago they claimed to be resistant to axes). What's more, the entire notion of criminals picking locks is a little bit... old fashioned? Most crime is an act of opportunity: seeing something and grabbing it. Your career thief is looking to enter a house and clean it out of easily sellable items when no one's home. Their skill set is reconnaissance: figuring out the least secure house in the neighborhood, the one that leaves the backdoor unlocked or whose garage door opener can be hacked with a little device. Metal Padlocks generally protect things much less valuable than a house: a gate, a shed, a piece of equipment. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it would take a high-profile incident where someone picked a Master Lock IRL and stole something valuable, then someone like a locksmith or a cop would have to _tell_ the homeowner how shitty Master Locks really are, and then the news or internet would have to pick up the story. It just won't happen. They probably sell so many of these things, and so vanishingly few % of them are ever picked that the lockbuying public won't figure it out.
Not gonna happen. In a world where people want to pay the least amount of money for something they feel they "need" but dont feel they need it to be the best in the world see a product like this, see the name "master" on it really big and know the name has been around for a long time so its prob half decent, right? lol Then they see the cheap price along with it and think, "hey Im getting a deal here, a good quality lock and for that price... Ill take it." Then they see the "even stronger" sticker and think, damn it must be my lucky day... cant get any better than that!... lol People dont do any sort of actual research when it comes to things like a basic ass padlock unless they are trying to protect or keep something extremely valuable (whether it be monetary or sentimental) or they know how easy most locks can be compromised. I mean if someone wants to get into somewhere or something and see a padlock, they arent going to even think about picking it unless thats the only tool they have on them.. The first thing they will reach for is going to be some nice big bolt cutters or a prybar/hammer/torch. Obviously it depends on the situation but unless u absolutely have to look like u are just opening a lock or need to be able to relock it and make it look like it hasnt been tampered with, picking a lock is the last choice a bugler is going to use anyways.
I think Master is doing a terrific job and doesn't need to change a thing! Keep up the good work! I do have an observation I'd like to point out... that many, many people who have been in the Master Lock distro channels for years and years, have sold lots and lots of MLC #3s, haven't ever noticed. And, as a West Point guy, it really bothers me because of the "don't lie, cheat, or steal" that's ingrained in us. Count the number of rivet heads on the top of the lock... ... then count the number on the bottom. Hopefully something didn't add up for you, and that's because the set of rivets that are seemingly in the middle of the lock are not really there. The top plate has two pretend rivet heads pressed into the metal plate to give the appearance of real rivets. I'm sure years ago when MLC was designing the #3, they realized they didn't have room to add that third set of rivets in the middle. But having only four rivets looks weak. What to do, what to do? Well, MLC decided to pretend there are two rivets there! And pretending to be something you're not is not what I'd consider to be following the cadet honor code!
PACLOCK PRES. REALLY NOTHING NEEDS A CHANGE? that’s stupid what you said they need to put 6 pin cores in the locks with security pins you can literally pick the locks in 5 seconds and pick with paper clips these locks are terrible use abloy protec 2 instead
I commented on another video of yours about how I started watching your channel because I started taking up locks at the hardware store where I work. You always broke down how the locks work very well and picking them explained how they worked perfectly. Well, this exact lock needed picking today at work because someone locked the only key to a cabinet we have inside the cabinet. I remembered seeing this and knew Masterlock was a joke. It was a number three and I popped it with a screwdriver and a bent wire I use for all my locks just because I like it. Now my coworkers are afraid of me and I love it.
I know this video is old and these are the easiest locks to open, but I just used this technique to open my first real lock and love this feeling. Now, on to real picking with a little bit of confidence. Thank you!
Thanks for the video. I've been following you for years, and I consider lock picking a good hobby. However, today it finally came in useful. Someone was throwing away a ten-foot-length of chain because they lost the keys to the (above) locks. I scooped it, happy to have a project. My cheaper pick-set didn't have the same rakes, but once you mentioned the 4-pin configuration - what I was feeling inside made sense. Had them open in almost no time at all. Now I have some practice locks, and a section of link chain (that I'm sure will be useful for something). Thanks! (time to upgrade my EDC set)
Hello there, I took up lock picking as a random hobby and I have watched some videos and practiced with picks. Now I am really interested in combo locks. But I love your videos and I hope to hoan my skills to be close to your skillset someday. I enjoy your work. Thanks for the videos.
Hola Lawyer, tengo la grata satisfacción de ser un seguidor tuyo, vi casi todos tus videos eres realmente un maestro de maestros en la apertura de cerraduras, tienes una habilidad y destreza admirable. FELICIDADES y GRACIAS por todos tus videos, gracias a ellos aprendo cada día algo más. Te mando un abrazo sincero desde Sucre Bolivia.
a coworker of mine gave me his lock picking kit. I've never picked a lock before, but watch your video's all the time. I grabbed a couple Masterlock #3's we had laying around, and picked them surprisingly easy. I then found you can just rake it with pretty much anything that fits in there. I'll never trust a 4-pin masterlock lol.
Funny thing is people are stingy about the lockout tagout hasps there, and someone took the key to this lock so nobody else could use it (stupid right?) so now we can use the hasp again without resorting to cutting the lock up.
They are good for low security needs. My classroom has those locks to lock up all the wood cabinets used to store tools and welding supplies. It stops students from accidentally going into a cabinets they aren't supposed to.
Had one of these on my oil tank, lost keys, watched this vid, I had it open in less than 2 mins, with ink pen clip and an old ground down key..... I used teflon for lube since the lock had been outside for nearly 2 years. Thanks for helping me.... one day I might find the key to it...
My job locked up our $6,000 devices we use to check pain woth masterlocks due to them getting broken. Thanks to you I got a great laugh apon seeing that
Love your videos. So entertaining don’t forget if you already hadn’t told people about “cheap” lock pic sets I’m a starter bought something for like $30 came with tons of stuff. Everything broke in minutes. Lol I then ordered from you.
Wow! Please do a LPL recommended lock series soon. I have a ton of these locks and was able rake and shake all my locks without issue. Didn't realize how easy it was after trying it myself.
So glad you're doing these videos. Now that i'm following you for years i'm over and over again shocked by how insecure locks are. Obviously almost any kid can open many of these instantly. I totally don't understand why a renowned company produces such crap. Maybe there's a kid around you can manage to show on camera opening locks like these, hoping to be an eye opener for some company .
After a week and a half.. I just use these for recreational reasons now.. Keep my hands busy while im reading or watching something, pick, pop, lock, pick, pop, lock... Taking maybe 15 to 20 sec each time single pin picking it at this point... Really not good locks for security... But damn good for a.d.d and therapeutic purposes An hour ago i recently just popped this mystery 6 pin lock i got a couple days ago (mystery to me, a relative found it scrapping one night, didnt have a key so gave it to me to use for more practice and experience, interchangeable american lock padlock series 3560? and looks like the locks been changed before so i dont know if it was the original or not inside it and turned out to be all standard pins anyways..) really loving this hobby and learning alot every day
Hi Harry, Thanks for showing, without your video most wouldn't have known about the redesigned locking system on The Master No.3 padlock - myself included. Kudos to Master for that. It does seem strange that the little brass Master 140 padlock contains spools ( made in China I'm sure ) and yet the much heavier No.3 has none. I'm led to believe Master's dial combination padlocks are now made in Mexico, and I guess many others are as well. If Master's Lockout padlocks can include security pins along with the 140, it doesn't seem much of a jump to include them in their other 4 pin locks. A complete retool to 5 pin, I'm sure, is out of the question. Only the Locksport Community give Master a hard time, the buying public are totally unaware of the weaknesses of a standard 4 pin core, no excuses ... but the truth none the less. Perhaps Master are moving in the right direction, first ball bearing locking, next some security pins maybe ......? Regards, Brian.
Brian Hignett yup... master locks product line doesn’t make sense as a cohesive whole... like a car company’s might. So many legacy products. They really need to streamline their offerings... though expensive, it would probably be cheaper in the long run, and result in better offerings. But when they spend the money to redesign something and fail to move their products closer into alignment, then it enters the realm of poor management imo.
Thanks for the information. If they really wanted to improve the whole lock, the core could use more than 4 pins, and like you said, security pins. The ball bearing locking is a nice improvement.
Could not see clearly in the video, but are those ball bearings spring loaded? Without a solid stop behind them they should still be vulnerable to shimming and rap attacks.
Most braking and entertaining cutting is usually used. There are lock guards and sleeves available to help getting to the lock more difficult. But yes, Master locks need to improve the inner mechanisms.
Great review. People purchase master lock for the name unless they watch video they think there getting high security sense it's the brand there buying and they been around for decades. My opinion only.😎
These were the first training locks i got for my kids to go with their Genesis sets. My 12 year old can pop them in less than 10 seconds with the shallow hook.
I just remembered what that tool you were asking me about was. It wasn't kwikset it was a miniaturized version of the schlage L series spanner wrench for tightening the multipart collar on the L series mortise cylinder. The normal one is double sided but that one was so compact I loved it.
We have these at work, and today I just had to try picking one for the fun of it. Using the tools on hand, an .050” and 1/16” Allen wrench, it took about three seconds to open. Wow.
I just got into picking because of LPL and Locknub, I always wanted to do it, and I'm hooked now, I started with the MPXS-8 from Southord, and I just received 4 combs sparrows set and extra picks from Southord, I have already outgrown my creeper case in the last 2 mounts I'm getting the comp case from sparrows next, I have a #3 for 30 years and it's so worn out, it won't let me pick it open, the key still works, but picking it drives me crazy, I've done it a few times, I've spent a few hours so far, the core walks all over the place, but it is just flat-out worn out, Update, I have success with top of the keyway attack, now I can open it in less than 10 seconds every time, so satisfying to know I could get it right, seems you can't pick it if you don't try
Recently saw what I believe was a master lock 3 long shackle version with a visible bump by the keyway. It was in use so I didn’t investigate any further.
I purchased a No.3 recently along with the covert instruments Genesis set. Perhaps I don't fully understand how to do it or something, but I wasn't able to rake it. Not really having developed skills yet, I'm probably wrong, but it's at least possible there may be security pins in there. Still only a 4 pin lock though. (I noted the packaging today is a bit different from in this video and donsn't carry the stickers seen in the video).
Master got the ball bearing idea when they bought out American Lock and all of their patents in 2003. I got an older American H10 from the 1980s that has ball bearings.
I can't imagine security pins costing that much more to manufacture than plain ones. It boggles my mind why they don't use them in even the cheapest of lock models. What am I not understanding? Please comment.
I've been picking only 2 weeks. This is the only locks we have at work. Maybe 20 of them. I can get into them all within a minute each with a hook and I still suck!! My American 1100 I still can't get into yet lol. Ohh and also I have a master 410 loto I can't get into either. Maybe they should put their loto cores into these...btw thanks for all your videos picking is a really satisfying hobby
It's because the overwhelming majority of criminals never even look at the core in the first place. Very few know how to pick, and even fewer have the tools to pick. 99% of the time they're going to be using a destructive attack and Master Lock knows it. That's why their security ratings are based entirely on physical robustness.
Just because it has ball bearings, perhaps only a minor improvement -- what is the actuator made out of that holds those ball bearings in place -- Plastic? Zinc? wonder what the pull strength is? Perhaps "don't pull to hard"? {so as to not crush the actuator; should be in the disclaimer warning) -- maybe even a strong shim could collapse the actuator? (it's only a Master) -- SO LPL, let's see you give it a pull test, eh?
@@lockpickinglawyer A quick "disassembly" revealed a zinc cast actuator -- Still wonder if a shackle "pull strength test" would actually show improvement over the previous design? I would hope it would (but no "cheating" with torch to melt the zinc actuator, but why bother when you can rake it open in a second or two) -- added note; ball bearings are steel at 6.27 mm dia -- I was going to replace them with 6 mm plastic air soft BB's to make it more secure, wonder why Master didn't think of that?
Ken Nixon I’ve done some strength testing with the Ramset and my hydraulic press. On 6 locks, I had 3 broken shackles and 3 with no apparent damage. I suspect a deformed actuator is the culprit, but I haven’t gotten around to the autopsies yet.
Hey, you know what... I'll give them credit for it. I think for a majority of use cases improving the locking mechanism was a major improvement. Seems like most crooks are going to come in with hammers and bolt cutters, not rakes or even padlock shims. Everyone praises things like the ABUS titalium locks for being pick resistant, but personally I would never recommend most of them for real-world use because they use standard spring-loaded locking bars. Some, but not all, can be shimmed, and I doubt that many would stand up to a firm smack with a hammer.
I bought a starters lockpick set, and 3 different master locks. The No. 3 is the only one I just can’t seem to get open. I have no idea why. Guess this means I’m not cut out for this hahah.
I saw this in the hardware store.....I looked at the key first to see if it was changed to five pins....but no. Then i looked at the keyway and you will also notice the bottom plate looks like a anti drill plate as it is definitely different from the old models. Glad they use balls now lol.
What padlock would be an upgrade compared to the Master Lock No. 3? I have one of these on a side gate and would like to upgrade it but am not sure to what. Please and thank you.
@LockPickingLawyer Your number3 looks more like my number1. The number3 I have has a plastic covering and I’m finding is trickier for me to pick compared to when I pick the one similar to the one in this vid. I’m a just misinformed about what number is what?
Hi! I’m new to picking. I have a ML 3 and a Pertonson set of picks. I’ve been able to pick this lock with a city rake and a small hook. Lately I haven’t been able to pick it with either. I’ve watched your video and others. They all make it look so easy. Do you have any idea what my problem could be? Thanks.
Would you mind please recommending some locks that one might use on a locker or on luggage when traveling outside of the United States. One that cannot be shimmed or raked open easily. Thank you.
Hey there! I was given 4 of the older style NO 3's with no keys. I am a brand new picker so started with city rake to try to open them. After I got to the point where I was opening consistently with the city rake I decided to try single pin picking. I wasn't having luck until the pick seemed to go further back then I expected. Since then I discovered I can open all 4 by putting the pick all the was back in pushing up.... Why would this be? Really bad biting on locks keyed alike? or?
Tried using jiggler pics and warded skeleton key pics for this lock, they were all too big to even enter the key way. Is this normal for this lock? Or may I have gotten the wrong sizes
So I'm just curious is the 33 thumbs down from Masterlock share holders? Hahahaha really how could you thumbsdown this genius? Thank you Sir, you re-lit a hobby that I forgot was so challenging and rewarding..
You have to remember though, the lock is rarely the weak link in your average implementation. Way easier to just cut the mild steel hasp than it is to pick a lock or cut it's hardened steel shackle, which is what you see most often in the wild because very few thieves even bother with lock picks.
Just got Master #3 a few days ago, and the rake picking doesn't work, at least with what I have, and it is pretty close to the video. Have the improvements been made, or do I need a specific rake? I would like to see the same demonstration with a recently purchase Master #3
Just keep practicing. I have a newer ML #3 that I've been practicing on and raking is still effective on it. I'm using a sharper pointed rake pick (I think it's called a city rake) from a cheap amazon kit. The Bogota rakes on my covert companion work but the cheaper rake seems to work better and faster for my particular ML#3. I seem to have best luck using very light tension with a .40 tool from the bottom of the keyway.
It took me a little over a day of practicing on and off to get my first open. Now I've opened nearly every lock in my house (at least twice) but not before putting a padlock shaped hole in my basement wall that I now need to patch and paint...
Keep trying. Pay attention to the amount of tension you apply. I just got a #3 today and it opens using a city rake and the rocking motion LPL used here, as half diamond and a snake rake using a raking motion.
I can't seem to get it 😅 Got the two rake picks in the covert companion, the ergo turning set for applying tension clockwise from the bottom of the keyhole opening, and idk what I'm missing, because I can't seem to get the no 3 key open 🤔
I have a padlock on my chain link fence that I want gone but I want to pick it instead of cutting it off. It's a little rusty so I have to drentch in wd-40 for a couple days. Bolt cutters and grinders would be easier. The is for fun
I currently use 6 of these locks to secure the compartment doors on my service truck. The road grime and freezing weather causes me to have to wrestle with them rather often. Can anyone recommend an affordable weather resistant lock that I could easily get 6 keyed alike?
I'll give Master Lock credit for addressing a major flaw in their lock design. And while it's harder to fit more pins into that sized lock, a couple security pins from their LOTO locks would go a long way. It's better, but still not good.
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A key that opens many locks is called a master key. A lock that is opened with pretty much anything is called a Master Lock.
They are look resistant because no one that wants actual security looks at them
If u put this sentence on tho dtheo women, sense would be totaly diferent 😉
@@o0kizzle0oWhat?
Guy finds one joke > posts it everywhere. Stop
Let’s be honest, what would master locks be good for if not training amateur lock pickers?
Paper weight
Door stop
Bacon press
Fishing weight
Model boat anchor
Improvised weapon
Blunderbuss ammo
Hitching post for anemic mice
I'm sure there are more, but those were the first that popped into my mind.
I mean, they're basically for making things marginally harder to get into. Sometimes that's totally sufficient, you know, in a "keep the kids out of the shed" kinda way.
I bought one of these locks and put it on my back fence. It stopped the problem... which was my dog flipping the catch with her nose and taking untethered walks.
I bought it not because I thought I was getting "level 5 security" like the package proclaimed, but because it was the cheapest lock on the shelf. I just wanted something that looked better than a bent coathanger through the catch.
Masterlock: Smarter than the dog.
Frankly you can’t really use them for training.
I have no clue of lock picking and was able to pick this new version of the No. 3 with a normal hook on the first attempt in hardly 5 seconds.
Raking most of the times takes two seconds.
Literally have a chain of 4 different ones I practice on. Started a few weeks ago. Not difficult
Your milky smooth voice makes picking locks much more enjoyable and, dare I say, comfortable.
RedTeamReview ...That's How he lubricates them... a little smooth talking...
And remember, he'll sound just as smooth in the courtroom... so when you need to impress a judge, hire this'un! "Your Honor, my client did not mean to pick the lock; it fell open while he was examining its pinning." ;)
Rez Zircon the pick don't fit, you must acquit!
Good one :D
HBO must've used Masterlocks to secure their season 7 episodes.
I remember going into a locksmith's store at one point and they had a number of locks for sale and they were all Master locks. I asked the guy if he had any other locks and he told me that was the gold standard. I chuckled to myself and walked out.
Lol “locksmith” store.
As you well know, they’re just standard, not the gold standard. They’re cheap, which makes them popular. They’re good for your self esteem if you’re having trouble with a harder lock though.
@@lukepippin4781 Gold standard? Fool's gold.
0:18 "I picked few..."
That's a pun.
Thank you 'Master lock' people. The number 3 is just the ticket for a newb just starting out. (like me). The vast majority of comments seem to be coming from folks whose fist attempt easily picked a six pin, paracentric, sprung core, loaded lock with spool, serrated and mushroom pins. Some of us were not born so gifted. Many of us will graduate to much more challenging locks after long, dedicated practice. p.s. not yet having a white belt, I must rely on suspenders.
I literally spent like an hour trying to do what u did in seconds
Practice does indeed make perfect. He’s been doing this for a looong time.
"Low skill attack"
@@Nickesponja it really is. If you practice for like an hour and experiment with various picks, you can open these in like a second.
He managed to get a couple easy ones, you can tell by the keys. I got 3 of these, one has a key that looks like the first one he opened (on the left at the start of the vid) that will open easily and 2 more that are a lot tougher.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma rip
Rest on their laurels? They have no laurels to rest on. They sell millions of these locks because you can buy a four pack for about nine bucks.
Lol idk where you live but the crappy master locks I've bought in the past were about 15each at the cheapest but they still were not worth locking anything up worth the price of the lock. A well tied knot on some Kevlar rope would be better.
I'd say the actual laurels here are that this is one of the padlocks that got a lot of new people into picking.
Master Lock is the same as Maglite or Gerber knives. Their products are in big box stores so they don't need to try anymore.
I dont hear laurel, i hear yanny
@@MiguelBotequilhaPapuno LMAO, That's great.
But they do resist bullets, which is how most burglars open a lock, right?
Michelle Eden or a bazooka... ;)
Master Lock: resists attacks by rifle, defeated by paperclip
All I can think of now is the episode of the simpsons where homer gets a gun and uses it for everything
Two wrenches, if they're being quiet.
bosnianbill has a video on it
You'd think they would at least make their locks inconspicuous. Not only is it a bad design, but it is easy to recognize visually from further away than any other pad lock in existence. There's nothing quite like a mini Master billboard advertising free stuff. My old man used a bunch of these. It's a good thing he's cheap and never has really nice stuff to steal.
The real question is can the popularity of LPL and internet culture raise awareness enough to kill such a tenured brand? This could become an interesting case study for 21st century business practice and modern consumer awareness. I know I would never buy a Master Lock branded product solely due to what I've seen here.
-Jake
Physical security is so interesting. Id argue a master lock 3 is not as bad as you might think in the real world. Working from the assumption the lock is protecting something not incredibly valuable so there is no justification for putting an expensive lock on it. Most pad locks are susceptible to twisting or cutting attacks. Those are no skill attacks that are for more common than picking. So it does not really matter if you spent $20 more dollars the lock gets defeated either way.
However, there are definitely times people should be putting at the very least a medium security lock up and have no idea how shitty master locks are.
@@alexdavis9324 LOL, good point. If I see a #3 locking a shed door I'm gonna assume there's nothing inside worth stealing.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma most sheds have the hinges on the outside of the door. I swear people watch this channel and their brain stops working
No, I seriously doubt the internet will kill Master Locks. The average consumer doesn't do a second of research, they need a lock, they go to the store, they buy the one that makes them _feel_ most secure. This is something solid, steel, advertising durability (many years ago they claimed to be resistant to axes). What's more, the entire notion of criminals picking locks is a little bit... old fashioned? Most crime is an act of opportunity: seeing something and grabbing it. Your career thief is looking to enter a house and clean it out of easily sellable items when no one's home. Their skill set is reconnaissance: figuring out the least secure house in the neighborhood, the one that leaves the backdoor unlocked or whose garage door opener can be hacked with a little device. Metal Padlocks generally protect things much less valuable than a house: a gate, a shed, a piece of equipment.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that it would take a high-profile incident where someone picked a Master Lock IRL and stole something valuable, then someone like a locksmith or a cop would have to _tell_ the homeowner how shitty Master Locks really are, and then the news or internet would have to pick up the story. It just won't happen.
They probably sell so many of these things, and so vanishingly few % of them are ever picked that the lockbuying public won't figure it out.
Not gonna happen. In a world where people want to pay the least amount of money for something they feel they "need" but dont feel they need it to be the best in the world see a product like this, see the name "master" on it really big and know the name has been around for a long time so its prob half decent, right? lol Then they see the cheap price along with it and think, "hey Im getting a deal here, a good quality lock and for that price... Ill take it." Then they see the "even stronger" sticker and think, damn it must be my lucky day... cant get any better than that!... lol
People dont do any sort of actual research when it comes to things like a basic ass padlock unless they are trying to protect or keep something extremely valuable (whether it be monetary or sentimental) or they know how easy most locks can be compromised. I mean if someone wants to get into somewhere or something and see a padlock, they arent going to even think about picking it unless thats the only tool they have on them.. The first thing they will reach for is going to be some nice big bolt cutters or a prybar/hammer/torch. Obviously it depends on the situation but unless u absolutely have to look like u are just opening a lock or need to be able to relock it and make it look like it hasnt been tampered with, picking a lock is the last choice a bugler is going to use anyways.
I think Master is doing a terrific job and doesn't need to change a thing! Keep up the good work!
I do have an observation I'd like to point out... that many, many people who have been in the Master Lock distro channels for years and years, have sold lots and lots of MLC #3s, haven't ever noticed. And, as a West Point guy, it really bothers me because of the "don't lie, cheat, or steal" that's ingrained in us.
Count the number of rivet heads on the top of the lock...
... then count the number on the bottom.
Hopefully something didn't add up for you, and that's because the set of rivets that are seemingly in the middle of the lock are not really there. The top plate has two pretend rivet heads pressed into the metal plate to give the appearance of real rivets. I'm sure years ago when MLC was designing the #3, they realized they didn't have room to add that third set of rivets in the middle. But having only four rivets looks weak. What to do, what to do?
Well, MLC decided to pretend there are two rivets there! And pretending to be something you're not is not what I'd consider to be following the cadet honor code!
PACLOCK PRES. REALLY NOTHING NEEDS A CHANGE? that’s stupid what you said they need to put 6 pin cores in the locks with security pins you can literally pick the locks in 5 seconds and pick with paper clips these locks are terrible use abloy protec 2 instead
@@jeseniahernandez8795 he was most likely being sarcastic, judging by the tone of the rest of the writing
PACLOCK PRES. AND YOUR LOCKS SUCK TO EASY TO PICK KING ABLOY!!!!!!!
@@jeseniahernandez8795 bruh
@@jeseniahernandez8795 Are you okay
I commented on another video of yours about how I started watching your channel because I started taking up locks at the hardware store where I work. You always broke down how the locks work very well and picking them explained how they worked perfectly.
Well, this exact lock needed picking today at work because someone locked the only key to a cabinet we have inside the cabinet. I remembered seeing this and knew Masterlock was a joke. It was a number three and I popped it with a screwdriver and a bent wire I use for all my locks just because I like it. Now my coworkers are afraid of me and I love it.
Masterlock 'resting on their laurels' is deserved of an Urban Dictionary comedy usage example.
I know this video is old and these are the easiest locks to open, but I just used this technique to open my first real lock and love this feeling. Now, on to real picking with a little bit of confidence. Thank you!
Thanks for the video. I've been following you for years, and I consider lock picking a good hobby. However, today it finally came in useful. Someone was throwing away a ten-foot-length of chain because they lost the keys to the (above) locks. I scooped it, happy to have a project. My cheaper pick-set didn't have the same rakes, but once you mentioned the 4-pin configuration - what I was feeling inside made sense. Had them open in almost no time at all. Now I have some practice locks, and a section of link chain (that I'm sure will be useful for something). Thanks! (time to upgrade my EDC set)
Too bad. My favorite thing about #3 was that it can be opened by hitting it with two hammers on both sides.
Four hammers! :)
Dear LPL, you are very diplomatic.
Hello there, I took up lock picking as a random hobby and I have watched some videos and practiced with picks. Now I am really interested in combo locks. But I love your videos and I hope to hoan my skills to be close to your skillset someday. I enjoy your work. Thanks for the videos.
Hola Lawyer, tengo la grata satisfacción de ser un seguidor tuyo, vi casi todos tus videos eres realmente un maestro de maestros en la apertura de cerraduras, tienes una habilidad y destreza admirable. FELICIDADES y GRACIAS por todos tus videos, gracias a ellos aprendo cada día algo más. Te mando un abrazo sincero desde Sucre Bolivia.
a coworker of mine gave me his lock picking kit. I've never picked a lock before, but watch your video's all the time. I grabbed a couple Masterlock #3's we had laying around, and picked them surprisingly easy. I then found you can just rake it with pretty much anything that fits in there. I'll never trust a 4-pin masterlock lol.
Funny thing is people are stingy about the lockout tagout hasps there, and someone took the key to this lock so nobody else could use it (stupid right?) so now we can use the hasp again without resorting to cutting the lock up.
As they say in the Bahamas, "Better than what it was". LOL
I have a Master Lock No.3 on my storage unit.*watches LPL*I USED to have a Master Lock No.3 on my storage unit.
Keep watching LPL and you will opt for no lock on the storage.......hahaha....he has picked them all.
It's called a Number 3 because the recommended picking age is 3 and under.
Number 1 would probably be for infants then
They are good for low security needs. My classroom has those locks to lock up all the wood cabinets used to store tools and welding supplies. It stops students from accidentally going into a cabinets they aren't supposed to.
Had one of these on my oil tank, lost keys, watched this vid, I had it open in less than 2 mins, with ink pen clip and an old ground down key..... I used teflon for lube since the lock had been outside for nearly 2 years. Thanks for helping me.... one day I might find the key to it...
My job locked up our $6,000 devices we use to check pain woth masterlocks due to them getting broken. Thanks to you I got a great laugh apon seeing that
Love your videos. So entertaining don’t forget if you already hadn’t told people about “cheap” lock pic sets I’m a starter bought something for like $30 came with tons of stuff. Everything broke in minutes. Lol I then ordered from you.
Wow! Please do a LPL recommended lock series soon. I have a ton of these locks and was able rake and shake all my locks without issue. Didn't realize how easy it was after trying it myself.
LPL: "No security pins,"
Me: That's probably a good thing, otherwise beginners in lockpicking wouldn't know which lock to start on!
So glad you're doing these videos. Now that i'm following you for years i'm over and over again shocked by how insecure locks are. Obviously almost any kid can open many of these instantly. I totally don't understand why a renowned company produces such crap. Maybe there's a kid around you can manage to show on camera opening locks like these, hoping to be an eye opener for some company .
One of the worst things about this is that my school uses these locks to lock up their laptops.
After a week and a half.. I just use these for recreational reasons now.. Keep my hands busy while im reading or watching something, pick, pop, lock, pick, pop, lock... Taking maybe 15 to 20 sec each time single pin picking it at this point... Really not good locks for security... But damn good for a.d.d and therapeutic purposes
An hour ago i recently just popped this mystery 6 pin lock i got a couple days ago (mystery to me, a relative found it scrapping one night, didnt have a key so gave it to me to use for more practice and experience, interchangeable american lock padlock series 3560? and looks like the locks been changed before so i dont know if it was the original or not inside it and turned out to be all standard pins anyways..) really loving this hobby and learning alot every day
Love the "picking locks while rocking out to AC/DC finger stance" btw. \m/
This is the first one I’ve been able to pick open. I just did it last night, today I’m running to the hardware store for more locks.
How are yours so solid? The core in mine wobbles around by about 1/8" when I apply tension
Hi Harry, Thanks for showing, without your video most wouldn't have known about the redesigned locking system on The Master No.3 padlock - myself included. Kudos to Master for that. It does seem strange that the little brass Master 140 padlock contains spools ( made in China I'm sure ) and yet the much heavier No.3 has none. I'm led to believe Master's dial combination padlocks are now made in Mexico, and I guess many others are as well. If Master's Lockout padlocks can include security pins along with the 140, it doesn't seem much of a jump to include them in their other 4 pin locks. A complete retool to 5 pin, I'm sure, is out of the question. Only the Locksport Community give Master a hard time, the buying public are totally unaware of the weaknesses of a standard 4 pin core, no excuses ... but the truth none the less. Perhaps Master are moving in the right direction, first ball bearing locking, next some security pins maybe ......? Regards, Brian.
Brian Hignett yup... master locks product line doesn’t make sense as a cohesive whole... like a car company’s might. So many legacy products. They really need to streamline their offerings... though expensive, it would probably be cheaper in the long run, and result in better offerings.
But when they spend the money to redesign something and fail to move their products closer into alignment, then it enters the realm of poor management imo.
@@lockpickinglawyer Videos
Alright, who gave Master Lock laurels?
No one. They gave them yannies.
@@GeneralNickles hehe
You are AMAZING! Masterlock needs to invest in serious security upgrades.
Thanks for the information. If they really wanted to improve the whole lock, the core could use more than 4 pins, and like you said, security pins. The ball bearing locking is a nice improvement.
I am currently picking the exact lock with your tools that i bought from your website!! it is that easy!!
Could not see clearly in the video, but are those ball bearings spring loaded? Without a solid stop behind them they should still be vulnerable to shimming and rap attacks.
Thanks...
I'm watching while picking a disc lock and another master lock #5.
Just got my kit. Took me about 15 minutes on it but I felt so accomplished when I opened it
Great review brother, would have liked to see them finally put some security pins in them.
Should've been "Now even stronger (physically)"
I’ve now placed my 1st Covert Companion order and ordered a few padlocks to pick including the favourite Master Lock 3👍
I bought some of these for my patio grill covers to hold them down. They work pretty good but I did not buy them for security.
Very nice video as always, Sir!
Master Lock is Master Lock, no matter how 'stronger' they become. LOL!
Raked two locks open faster than the Turdbo Tax ad that ran before this video.
Most braking and entertaining cutting is usually used.
There are lock guards and sleeves available to help getting to the lock more difficult. But yes, Master locks need to improve the inner mechanisms.
It took him longer to get the tools in than pick it
Great review. People purchase master lock for the name unless they watch video they think there getting high security sense it's the brand there buying and they been around for decades. My opinion only.😎
Stronger, Mr. LPL, not unpickable
Seriously, there is no nicer way to put this... Master locks are pathetic. They're good for locking things worth about what the lock is.
I half expected you to say that in fixing that, they made an even bigger weakness
Thank you Harry.
These were the first training locks i got for my kids to go with their Genesis sets. My 12 year old can pop them in less than 10 seconds with the shallow hook.
I just remembered what that tool you were asking me about was. It wasn't kwikset it was a miniaturized version of the schlage L series spanner wrench for tightening the multipart collar on the L series mortise cylinder. The normal one is double sided but that one was so compact I loved it.
We have these at work, and today I just had to try picking one for the fun of it. Using the tools on hand, an .050” and 1/16” Allen wrench, it took about three seconds to open. Wow.
I just got into picking because of LPL and Locknub, I always wanted to do it, and I'm hooked now, I started with the MPXS-8 from Southord, and I just received 4 combs sparrows set and extra picks from Southord, I have already outgrown my creeper case in the last 2 mounts I'm getting the comp case from sparrows next, I have a #3 for 30 years and it's so worn out, it won't let me pick it open, the key still works, but picking it drives me crazy, I've done it a few times, I've spent a few hours so far, the core walks all over the place, but it is just flat-out worn out, Update, I have success with top of the keyway attack, now I can open it in less than 10 seconds every time, so satisfying to know I could get it right, seems you can't pick it if you don't try
I’m just getting into this hobby and have managed to open this lock twice so far with a Dyno Kwick Pick. Still just learning, but this is pretty fun.
Recently saw what I believe was a master lock 3 long shackle version with a visible bump by the keyway. It was in use so I didn’t investigate any further.
I purchased a No.3 recently along with the covert instruments Genesis set. Perhaps I don't fully understand how to do it or something, but I wasn't able to rake it. Not really having developed skills yet, I'm probably wrong, but it's at least possible there may be security pins in there. Still only a 4 pin lock though.
(I noted the packaging today is a bit different from in this video and donsn't carry the stickers seen in the video).
finally it's good enough for my waist high chain link gate
i just picked a small digital safe with a bobby pin and a screwdriver after watching this. thanks!
Thank you for the review. I saw these at the store and was very tempted to buy them for my gym lockers. I guess I won't.
Lock #1 2:01 to 2:05
Lock #2 2:12 to 2:14
If you're resting on your laurels, you're wearing them on the wrong end.
Master got the ball bearing idea when they bought out American Lock and all of their patents in 2003. I got an older American H10 from the 1980s that has ball bearings.
I can't imagine security pins costing that much more to manufacture than plain ones. It boggles my mind why they don't use them in even the cheapest of lock models. What am I not understanding? Please comment.
They cost Pennies. Master sells millions of locks per year and 0.1 penny per lock is $1,000 a year which gives the CEO another nice vacation
I've been picking only 2 weeks. This is the only locks we have at work. Maybe 20 of them. I can get into them all within a minute each with a hook and I still suck!! My American 1100 I still can't get into yet lol. Ohh and also I have a master 410 loto I can't get into either. Maybe they should put their loto cores into these...btw thanks for all your videos picking is a really satisfying hobby
I have to imagine they know what they’re doing when they decide against a better core. Probably just a financial move.
It's because the overwhelming majority of criminals never even look at the core in the first place. Very few know how to pick, and even fewer have the tools to pick.
99% of the time they're going to be using a destructive attack and Master Lock knows it. That's why their security ratings are based entirely on physical robustness.
Just because it has ball bearings, perhaps only a minor improvement -- what is the actuator made out of that holds those ball bearings in place -- Plastic? Zinc? wonder what the pull strength is? Perhaps "don't pull to hard"? {so as to not crush the actuator; should be in the disclaimer warning) -- maybe even a strong shim could collapse the actuator? (it's only a Master) -- SO LPL, let's see you give it a pull test, eh?
Ken Nixon Fair point... smart money says its zinc. Testing and tear down is on my to do list. 👍
@@lockpickinglawyer A quick "disassembly" revealed a zinc cast actuator -- Still wonder if a shackle "pull strength test" would actually show improvement over the previous design? I would hope it would (but no "cheating" with torch to melt the zinc actuator, but why bother when you can rake it open in a second or two) -- added note; ball bearings are steel at 6.27 mm dia -- I was going to replace them with 6 mm plastic air soft BB's to make it more secure, wonder why Master didn't think of that?
Ken Nixon I’ve done some strength testing with the Ramset and my hydraulic press. On 6 locks, I had 3 broken shackles and 3 with no apparent damage. I suspect a deformed actuator is the culprit, but I haven’t gotten around to the autopsies yet.
LockPickingLawyer -- Interesting -- looking forward to your autopsies
That sucks so bad. I purchased 8 of these for my air tight waterproof cases
Woo, masterlock has caught up with the times.... Of the 60s.....
Lol!!! Love your videos. Please do a voice over on my wedding video
Hey, you know what... I'll give them credit for it. I think for a majority of use cases improving the locking mechanism was a major improvement. Seems like most crooks are going to come in with hammers and bolt cutters, not rakes or even padlock shims.
Everyone praises things like the ABUS titalium locks for being pick resistant, but personally I would never recommend most of them for real-world use because they use standard spring-loaded locking bars. Some, but not all, can be shimmed, and I doubt that many would stand up to a firm smack with a hammer.
And here I can't even rake one open yet. 🤦 Granted I only started last week. But any tips are appreciated.
I bought a starters lockpick set, and 3 different master locks. The No. 3 is the only one I just can’t seem to get open. I have no idea why. Guess this means I’m not cut out for this hahah.
"Tough under fire"
Weak under everything else
I saw this in the hardware store.....I looked at the key first to see if it was changed to five pins....but no.
Then i looked at the keyway and you will also notice the bottom plate looks like a anti drill plate as it is definitely different from the old models.
Glad they use balls now lol.
Well done Master Lock. Add a couple extra pins and some serrations, should be good to go.
Just use their LOTO core.
@@alaeriia01 Basically what I was getting at. That should be their rule of thumb for every lock they try to make.
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LPL: MasterLock, your locks suck
MASTERLOCK: Our locks only suck with you
I picked some of these up to learn picking, and i got them open quicker than LPL did.
What padlock would be an upgrade compared to the Master Lock No. 3? I have one of these on a side gate and would like to upgrade it but am not sure to what. Please and thank you.
@LockPickingLawyer Your number3 looks more like my number1. The number3 I have has a plastic covering and I’m finding is trickier for me to pick compared to when I pick the one similar to the one in this vid. I’m a just misinformed about what number is what?
Hi!
I’m new to picking. I have a ML 3 and a Pertonson set of picks. I’ve been able to pick this lock with a city rake and a small hook. Lately I haven’t been able to pick it with either. I’ve watched your video and others. They all make it look so easy. Do you have any idea what my problem could be? Thanks.
What if u had a lock with two cores on either end that had to be turned clockwise and counterclockwise, respectively?
Would you mind please recommending some locks that one might use on a locker or on luggage when traveling outside of the United States. One that cannot be shimmed or raked open easily. Thank you.
Hey there! I was given 4 of the older style NO 3's with no keys. I am a brand new picker so started with city rake to try to open them. After I got to the point where I was opening consistently with the city rake I decided to try single pin picking. I wasn't having luck until the pick seemed to go further back then I expected. Since then I discovered I can open all 4 by putting the pick all the was back in pushing up.... Why would this be? Really bad biting on locks keyed alike? or?
Hi there, help! Live in LV locked our electric bikes can’t find key. Really hoping to take bikes out today. Lock is chateau c970 hardened.
Just got myself a lockpick set and pulled out one of these locks and as a novice lockpicker this was easier than thought😂
Tried using jiggler pics and warded skeleton key pics for this lock, they were all too big to even enter the key way. Is this normal for this lock? Or may I have gotten the wrong sizes
So I'm just curious is the 33 thumbs down from Masterlock share holders? Hahahaha really how could you thumbsdown this genius? Thank you Sir, you re-lit a hobby that I forgot was so challenging and rewarding..
As with all masterlock products: So close yet so far away (from secure).
Now I have to go listen to metallica ❤
When nothing else, Master
You have to remember though, the lock is rarely the weak link in your average implementation. Way easier to just cut the mild steel hasp than it is to pick a lock or cut it's hardened steel shackle, which is what you see most often in the wild because very few thieves even bother with lock picks.
Jacob T Around me, most people install the hasp with the screws exposed anyways.
Just got Master #3 a few days ago, and the rake picking doesn't work, at least with what I have, and it is pretty close to the video. Have the improvements been made, or do I need a specific rake? I would like to see the same demonstration with a recently purchase Master #3
Just keep practicing. I have a newer ML #3 that I've been practicing on and raking is still effective on it. I'm using a sharper pointed rake pick (I think it's called a city rake) from a cheap amazon kit. The Bogota rakes on my covert companion work but the cheaper rake seems to work better and faster for my particular ML#3.
I seem to have best luck using very light tension with a .40 tool from the bottom of the keyway.
It took me a little over a day of practicing on and off to get my first open. Now I've opened nearly every lock in my house (at least twice) but not before putting a padlock shaped hole in my basement wall that I now need to patch and paint...
If u noticed. He is rocking it back and forth. I have learned you need to rock it back and forth. Not Traditional sliding in-and-out raking Motion.
Keep trying. Pay attention to the amount of tension you apply.
I just got a #3 today and it opens using a city rake and the rocking motion LPL used here, as half diamond and a snake rake using a raking motion.
I can't seem to get it 😅
Got the two rake picks in the covert companion, the ergo turning set for applying tension clockwise from the bottom of the keyhole opening, and idk what I'm missing, because I can't seem to get the no 3 key open 🤔
I have a padlock on my chain link fence that I want gone but I want to pick it instead of cutting it off. It's a little rusty so I have to drentch in wd-40 for a couple days.
Bolt cutters and grinders would be easier. The is for fun
I currently use 6 of these locks to secure the compartment doors on my service truck. The road grime and freezing weather causes me to have to wrestle with them rather often. Can anyone recommend an affordable weather resistant lock that I could easily get 6 keyed alike?
I'll give Master Lock credit for addressing a major flaw in their lock design. And while it's harder to fit more pins into that sized lock, a couple security pins from their LOTO locks would go a long way.
It's better, but still not good.