Thank you for the details, it saves us a lot of trial and error. I had a question about your recording device, what microphone did you use? The stereo audio was literally in my head!
Thank you for this video. Learning about NEVER exceeding 200° was good to know, starting out. I've tried a number of recipes online. Most of them suck. My first introduction to pomades was Murray's Edgewax. But, I wanted to make my own. One recipe I found just said: 7 GM Beeswax 10.5 GM Shea Butter 14 GM Jojoba Oil That stusf was... dumb. I experimented with Lanolin and quickly realized... no more than 1 gram, if I'm wanting to wash it out. I got this crazy recipe. I have thick hair, so this works for me. If you're worried about this recipe, add a touch more shea or vegie glycerine or olive oil... whatever you think would work for you. 10 GM Beeswax 5 GM Shea Butter 4 GM Vegitable Glycerine 2 GM Castor Oil 2 GM Flaxseed Oil 3 GM Coconut Shortening 5 GM Olive Oil 2 GM Jojoba Oil 22 GM Bentonite Clay This stuff is awesome in the tin. I mixed it good. Ploppedeit in it's tin. Threw it opened in the fridge for a few hours. Pulled it out. Let it come to roor temperature, then I put the lid on. Next day, to do my hair, I open it and start to play with it. It's definitely clay. It feels like clay. It looks like clay. You can claw at it like a cave man. That's fun. To draw out a marble sized clump. But you can just rub your finger in there and find it just... emulsifies easily to scoup out a clump. It feels like clay. You rub it into your hand, it feels like a creamy clay. You can feel the grainyness to this. It runs through the hair like Murray's Edgewax... but it's a clay. It's hold is like Murray's Edgewax... for the most part... but it's a clay. Like... seriously... it's a similar hold. Now... too much Beeswax can strangle new hair growth. But... you introduce a crap load of clay... that abundant wax particles get spread out significantly... less surface area... so... the clay allows the hair to breath...I believe that will allow new hair growth to still occur, while retaining more beeswax than what you did in this video. I have tried to find ANY negative effects of having too much Bentonite or Kaolin Clay in your hair, and I haven't found it. So it seems like a great way to saturate the Beeswax, the same way it saturates the oils and gives a matte finish. You can totally innundate the hair with these clays, with no ill effects. As in... they'll only shampoo and condition your hair. Worst side effect. I have yet to use BTMS-50... does it do anything for the hold? Like... all I hear is "it's emulsifying".... okay... a soupy wax... cool... how's it's hold? Does it just go for lotion viscosity? Is this a way to make sure bentonite doesn't clump up? I'm thinking once my GRAY Kaolin clay comes in... maybe it might help prevent that... that's happened on other recipes. But, you're supposed to emulsify into your hand anyhow. So... clumping or not... stirred well, it makes a consistent product, on those recipes. I'm thinking of playing with arrowroot too.
This is a oil based light clay pomade A real clay pomade or traditional clay needs aloe juice or pure distilled water and much more Kaolin and Bentonite clay. I recommend trying Organic Aloe juice Bentonite Kaolin Peg-40 Carnuba wax PG-80 Candelilla wax Lanolin All small amount after this point Organic cold pressed Sweet almond oil Shea Butter Organic Patchouli pil Organic Bergamot fruit oil Organic Black pine oil Organic Ceder bark oil And lastly potassium sorbate This will make a very nice organic mainly plant-based product. You can mess around with the the amount on the ingredients to get a difference in hold, consistency, and finish. It washes easy no matter how mixed. Nourishes hair all day and is easily and quickly Styled and restyled on second day too. It can be called (depending on how it's made) anything from a heavy clay paste to a thick traditional clay not matter what it has thickening properties and great texture. Also the more you use the lived in kinda look you get.
bradymiguel thank you! yes I just uploaded a video showing how it emulsifies in the hand. Please subscribe to know when my next video will be uploaded!
Very true. I actually created a new formula. It includes a high percentage of clay and the results are phenomenal!! I am very proud of it. It is still an oil based clay pomade and has a matte finish.
Yeah when you get the Shea and it’s gritty it’s frm the drying by out process being to slow so you get say 500gms melt it dwn all at once to liquid and put it in the fridge freezer in ziplock back or whatever and your Shea won’t have any more grit same goes for any other butters that gritty are blends 👍
How different is this from a conditioning beard balm ... can we call it a conditioning beard balm too ? Can this be used on a beard ? I appreciate the response
Since this is an oil-based clay, it won't make too much of a difference. The purpose of using a conditioning E-wax, is well...for conditioning properties. Both BTMS-25 and 50 have these properties. NOW, if this were a water-based formula, it would make a big difference.
Hi, if I’m gonna be making an oil-based pomade do you have an idea on what temperature I will be adding my carrier oils to my dissolved beeswax,Ewax, and butters? Is it okay at 158 degree farenheit? Thanks
beck sampson yes it does help. I have moved on from this recipe and have really improved the formula. It's still oil based, but now has PEG-8 beeswax which really helps with the wash out!! Also added a little microcrystalline wax to help it become much more stable and keep it from sweating. I noticed in my original formula, during the summer heat, it would cause little droplets of oil on the surface of the pomade. Microcrystalline wax really helps with this. Tune back soon as I will be uploading the re-formulated pomade!
Fred Rivas it's not a regular emulifyimg wax, it's called BTMS-50. It has the added benefit of being conditioning as it is cationic (positively charged), so it leaves hair tangle-free and feeling silky smooth. It also provides a softer, powdery feel. It's AWESOME when used in a beard balm since it's positively charged, it keeps your beard hair straight! I will be uploading a video on a conditioning beard balm soon!
22:40 To be clear of the chemical reaction. The clay becomes weaker because it absorbs the metal in the bowl. It will wash out your next wash but makes the product not as effective.
3-4 parts coconut oil 2 parts beeswax melt au bain-marie 2 parts clay powder stir gently while cooling down Measure parts by volume. More coconut oil = softer texture, but less concentrated. Less coconut oil = harder to pull out of the container, especially in cold areas.
Yellow beeswax, yes you can. The color will be different. I use BTMS 50 for it's conditioning properties, not so much for it's emulsifucation. What emulsifier do you want to use?
You >vitamin E is not a preservative but it helps your product stay freshers🤔 Me say >It’s an antioxidant and is very good for the hair and scalp and goes nicely boom 💥 👌😂 But decent video
it's not a regular emulsifing wax, it's called BTMS-50. It has the added benefit of being conditioning as it is cationic (positively charged), so it leaves hair tangle-free and feeling silky smooth. It also provides a softer, powdery feel. It's AWESOME when used in a beard balm since it's positively charged, it keeps your beard hair straight! I will be uploading a video on a conditioning beard balm soon!
Arrowroot powder is good if you want to make pomade. It absorbs oil but won't give you a matte finish. Clay on the other hand gives a dry matter finish depending on the volume.
No it's not. I improved this formula and it now has a medium to firm hold. Clay itself provides a hold, not sure if you knew that. I am test batching a clay pomade that has over 40% clay! But it does have tug, so I'm trying to fix that. I will be selling soon once I am done with the formula. It's an oil based clay pomade.
@@gnomebeard407 I recently started making my own, with just kaolin for the moment because its the most easy to find. Once I get the right consistency I'm after I'll start research on how different clays affect the product.
@@theWayoftheHero try this 30 grams beeswax 24 grams petroleum jelly (vaseline) 16 grams coconut oil 30 grams kaolin clay (add this last when everything is thoroughly melted) You can add your own blend of essential oils to add a scent. Texture will be creamy and easy to scoop out, easy to spread in your hands and easy to distribute in hair. It'll give a fair amount of texture. I have another recipe for a firmer more textured hold that I can give you as well but it is harder to scoop (far from impossible tho).
For those who have been asking for the ingredient list, I wrote it up above. Enjoy! Let me know how it turns out for you!
Can you show what this looks like when it is dried out and applied to your hair? I'm curios how shiny this makes your hair.
Thank you for the details, it saves us a lot of trial and error.
I had a question about your recording device, what microphone did you use?
The stereo audio was literally in my head!
Thank you for this video. Learning about NEVER exceeding 200° was good to know, starting out.
I've tried a number of recipes online. Most of them suck.
My first introduction to pomades was Murray's Edgewax. But, I wanted to make my own.
One recipe I found just said:
7 GM Beeswax
10.5 GM Shea Butter
14 GM Jojoba Oil
That stusf was... dumb.
I experimented with Lanolin and quickly realized... no more than 1 gram, if I'm wanting to wash it out.
I got this crazy recipe.
I have thick hair, so this works for me.
If you're worried about this recipe, add a touch more shea or vegie glycerine or olive oil... whatever you think would work for you.
10 GM Beeswax
5 GM Shea Butter
4 GM Vegitable Glycerine
2 GM Castor Oil
2 GM Flaxseed Oil
3 GM Coconut Shortening
5 GM Olive Oil
2 GM Jojoba Oil
22 GM Bentonite Clay
This stuff is awesome in the tin. I mixed it good. Ploppedeit in it's tin. Threw it opened in the fridge for a few hours. Pulled it out. Let it come to roor temperature, then I put the lid on.
Next day, to do my hair, I open it and start to play with it. It's definitely clay. It feels like clay. It looks like clay.
You can claw at it like a cave man. That's fun. To draw out a marble sized clump. But you can just rub your finger in there and find it just... emulsifies easily to scoup out a clump. It feels like clay. You rub it into your hand, it feels like a creamy clay. You can feel the grainyness to this. It runs through the hair like Murray's Edgewax... but it's a clay.
It's hold is like Murray's Edgewax... for the most part... but it's a clay.
Like... seriously... it's a similar hold.
Now... too much Beeswax can strangle new hair growth. But... you introduce a crap load of clay... that abundant wax particles get spread out significantly... less surface area... so... the clay allows the hair to breath...I believe that will allow new hair growth to still occur, while retaining more beeswax than what you did in this video.
I have tried to find ANY negative effects of having too much Bentonite or Kaolin Clay in your hair, and I haven't found it. So it seems like a great way to saturate the Beeswax, the same way it saturates the oils and gives a matte finish. You can totally innundate the hair with these clays, with no ill effects. As in... they'll only shampoo and condition your hair. Worst side effect.
I have yet to use BTMS-50... does it do anything for the hold? Like... all I hear is "it's emulsifying".... okay... a soupy wax... cool... how's it's hold? Does it just go for lotion viscosity? Is this a way to make sure bentonite doesn't clump up? I'm thinking once my GRAY Kaolin clay comes in... maybe it might help prevent that... that's happened on other recipes. But, you're supposed to emulsify into your hand anyhow. So... clumping or not... stirred well, it makes a consistent product, on those recipes.
I'm thinking of playing with arrowroot too.
Xcuse me dear,
I want to ask you something
@@ShiningStar670 what's up?
This was a very helpful and informative, professional video. thank you.
This is a oil based light clay pomade
A real clay pomade or traditional clay needs aloe juice or pure distilled water and much more Kaolin and Bentonite clay. I recommend trying
Organic Aloe juice
Bentonite
Kaolin
Peg-40
Carnuba wax
PG-80
Candelilla wax
Lanolin
All small amount after this point
Organic cold pressed Sweet almond oil
Shea Butter
Organic Patchouli pil
Organic Bergamot fruit oil
Organic Black pine oil
Organic Ceder bark oil
And lastly potassium sorbate
This will make a very nice organic mainly plant-based product. You can mess around with the the amount on the ingredients to get a difference in hold, consistency, and finish. It washes easy no matter how mixed. Nourishes hair all day and is easily and quickly Styled and restyled on second day too.
It can be called (depending on how it's made) anything from a heavy clay paste to a thick traditional clay not matter what it has thickening properties and great texture. Also the more you use the lived in kinda look you get.
@wadew.wilson7261 would you be willing to share starting percentages for these ingredients? Something with a medium hold and smooth consistency?
Hi, I am interested in making clay that suits my hair, can I know roughly the % for medium hold?
I needed this when I first started trying to make a clay pomade but thank you awesome video
Awesome video dude!
Love this video!!! Could you post a follow-up after the clay setup and show the texture and how it emulsifies in the hand?
bradymiguel thank you! yes I just uploaded a video showing how it emulsifies in the hand. Please subscribe to know when my next video will be uploaded!
Great job, man! I will try this recipe soon! Thx for you working!))
oils do oxidize, you wont get fungus but oils will go through rancidification, that is why you should use Vitamin E,
Very true. I actually created a new formula. It includes a high percentage of clay and the results are phenomenal!! I am very proud of it. It is still an oil based clay pomade and has a matte finish.
@@gnomebeard407 Great, you are actually very good at this , I tried it, and it works great, thanks.
@@gnomebeard407 can you share that recipe please?
Off course thanks 👍
Yeah when you get the Shea and it’s gritty it’s frm the drying by out process being to slow so you get say 500gms melt it dwn all at once to liquid and put it in the fridge freezer in ziplock back or whatever and your Shea won’t have any more grit same goes for any other butters that gritty are blends 👍
What gives it the stickiness on the fingers when rubbed together and would it be possible to get rid of that stickiness?
Do u have video for clay water based? Thx
Are all the ingredients organic or not?
They can be, does it really matter if the specific ones he used aren't?
do you think you could use an electric mixer?
Can i replace a btms 50 with polawax? Thanks for answer
How different is this from a conditioning beard balm ... can we call it a conditioning beard balm too ? Can this be used on a beard ? I appreciate the response
Great Job! What if I use BTMS-25 instead of BTMS-50?
Since this is an oil-based clay, it won't make too much of a difference. The purpose of using a conditioning E-wax, is well...for conditioning properties. Both BTMS-25 and 50 have these properties. NOW, if this were a water-based formula, it would make a big difference.
Hii brother.. Whats your temperature scale? Celcius, kelvin or fahrenheit ? Btw I'm indonesian and use celcius scale.. Thanks
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Hi, if I’m gonna be making an oil-based pomade do you have an idea on what temperature I will be adding my carrier oils to my dissolved beeswax,Ewax, and butters? Is it okay at 158 degree farenheit? Thanks
Stirr stirrrrr stirrrrrrrrr
What inggredients can make hair strong hold and what inggredients can make hair is matte finnish not shine? Sorry for my bad English.
You dont have to be sorry its not your native language😜
Hey ledge, where can I find the new hair clay u have made, been searching but can't see it. Can u post link please, cheers.
not water-based but would your BTMS 50 allow it to be washed out easily with shampoo?
beck sampson yes it does help. I have moved on from this recipe and have really improved the formula. It's still oil based, but now has PEG-8 beeswax which really helps with the wash out!! Also added a little microcrystalline wax to help it become much more stable and keep it from sweating. I noticed in my original formula, during the summer heat, it would cause little droplets of oil on the surface of the pomade. Microcrystalline wax really helps with this. Tune back soon as I will be uploading the re-formulated pomade!
Can you write down all the ingredients including grams?
What’s the point of the emulsifying wax if there’s no water?
Fred Rivas it's not a regular emulifyimg wax, it's called BTMS-50. It has the added benefit of being conditioning as it is cationic (positively charged), so it leaves hair tangle-free and feeling silky smooth. It also provides a softer, powdery feel. It's AWESOME when used in a beard balm since it's positively charged, it keeps your beard hair straight! I will be uploading a video on a conditioning beard balm soon!
By coco butter do you mean coconut or actual cocoA butter?
Cocoa butter
22:40 To be clear of the chemical reaction. The clay becomes weaker because it absorbs the metal in the bowl. It will wash out your next wash but makes the product not as effective.
You're correct, he should be using a glass or wood bowl as not to have an undesired effect.
The purpose of the clay here is to build volume and reduce shine. It is kaolin clay, not bentonite which is for skin metal detox used for face masks.
Hey man what do you do?
Is there any simple recipe ? With fewer ingredients if possible :) ?
3-4 parts coconut oil
2 parts beeswax
melt au bain-marie
2 parts clay powder
stir gently while cooling down
Measure parts by volume.
More coconut oil = softer texture, but less concentrated.
Less coconut oil = harder to pull out of the container, especially in cold areas.
Why not use arrowroot power instead of clay?
Clay helps add texture
How much millilitres is this?
Can i use yellow beeswax and emulsifier instead ?
Yellow beeswax, yes you can. The color will be different. I use BTMS 50 for it's conditioning properties, not so much for it's emulsifucation. What emulsifier do you want to use?
@@gnomebeard407 polysorbate 80 and peg 40
@@farelsaputra5195 that's more for water based formulas. W/O emulsions.
You >vitamin E is not a preservative but it helps your product stay freshers🤔
Me say >It’s an antioxidant and is very good for the hair and scalp and goes nicely boom 💥 👌😂
But decent video
Gabhain De Brun stating the obviouse must be really rewarding for you.
@M A
Yeah makes me feel all fussy inside
Glad you noticed....
what about the hold ? u get a medium or a high hold ? i mean in the video.....
This one has a Light hold. But I have moved on from this formula. I now make an oil based clay that has a medium to firm hold. Very matte finish.
@@gnomebeard407 Hi! do you have the recipe for the medium to firm hold?
@@gnomebeard407 Very interested in a recipe as well :)
Are these available on ali express or ebay
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What is the role of the emulsifying wax for the product?
it's not a regular emulsifing wax, it's called BTMS-50. It has the added benefit of being conditioning as it is cationic (positively charged), so it leaves hair tangle-free and feeling silky smooth. It also provides a softer, powdery feel. It's AWESOME when used in a beard balm since it's positively charged, it keeps your beard hair straight! I will be uploading a video on a conditioning beard balm soon!
doesnt the e-wax also make it easier to wash the product out of your hair?
also do you ever add water to your pomades?
marine6 yes it does wash out pretty easy. I'm in the final stages of perfecting an unorthodox water based matte styling clay.
can you use arrowroot instead of clay?
No, I wouldn't only use arrowroot. Kaolin clay should be the main clay.
Arrowroot powder is good if you want to make pomade. It absorbs oil but won't give you a matte finish. Clay on the other hand gives a dry matter finish depending on the volume.
How much does this formula produce? 1oz?
Based D 2 oz
Nice pomade..im a barber..i can use that tips..i hug your channel already sir..i hope u too,..ill wait for u sir
this is not firm hold pomade, right? hmm
No it's not. I improved this formula and it now has a medium to firm hold. Clay itself provides a hold, not sure if you knew that. I am test batching a clay pomade that has over 40% clay! But it does have tug, so I'm trying to fix that. I will be selling soon once I am done with the formula. It's an oil based clay pomade.
@@gnomebeard407 please made some unorthodox oil based pomade video :) .
Or if can what are the ingredients I need to create it?
You can*
160 degree Fahrenheit or Celsius?
In this video I am using F. I have moved to the metric system when creating all my formulas.
Why have you stop experimenting and making videos
2 grams of clay isn't gonna cut it for achieving a matte look, clay should be one of the main component of the recipe to make it a clay type product.
100% agree with you!! I have finalized this formula. I actually use loads of clay. It's as if I'm adding oil to clay instead of adding clay to oil.
@@gnomebeard407 I recently started making my own, with just kaolin for the moment because its the most easy to find. Once I get the right consistency I'm after I'll start research on how different clays affect the product.
My man, u gunna be sharing the new formula or if u have where can I find it. Cheers.
@@gnomebeard407 any updates on your revised formula? Could you post the ingredients and ratios? I'm looking for a strong/firm hold with matte finish
@@theWayoftheHero try this
30 grams beeswax
24 grams petroleum jelly (vaseline)
16 grams coconut oil
30 grams kaolin clay (add this last when everything is thoroughly melted)
You can add your own blend of essential oils to add a scent. Texture will be creamy and easy to scoop out, easy to spread in your hands and easy to distribute in hair.
It'll give a fair amount of texture.
I have another recipe for a firmer more textured hold that I can give you as well but it is harder to scoop (far from impossible tho).
How difficult is it to wash out since it is oil based? Thank you.