Warhammer 40k's Answer To Everything? Storm Speeder Points Reduction!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

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  • @mr.morden666
    @mr.morden666 2 месяца назад +20

    As a Space Marine player (Salamander player here), I've learned so much from watching Steve play on Play On. Your guys channel is becoming one of my favorite Space Marine channels. Thank you for the awesome content!

  • @tbone11x
    @tbone11x 2 месяца назад +4

    A thunderstrike and a gladiator lancer has been my staple anti-armor and anti-monster since the start of 10th. They've made their points back in every single game.

  • @paulbalfour9339
    @paulbalfour9339 2 месяца назад +7

    It’s great to have you all back streaming again.
    As a Space Marine player, I’m also relieved my dudes Steve’s back in front of the camera.
    Keep the content coming please. 🙏

  • @adampogatshnik6833
    @adampogatshnik6833 2 месяца назад +5

    Man, I am LOVING the hailstrike. you guys didnt even mention that this just scores secondary points outrageously well. I think its the fastest thing marines have that can move and still action. And the ability is incredible! Pretty cool when your intercessors put a terminator down to his inv. save.

  • @mariog-m9512
    @mariog-m9512 2 месяца назад +5

    Being a year and a half into the hobby it amazes me that I keep over looking these speeders. Love the content boys, keep up the good work :)

  • @qqwadddamage367
    @qqwadddamage367 2 месяца назад +2

    Great discussion, i was glued to my screen. I kept wondering about Hailstrike in Anvil Siege Force....

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      It's gotta be a thing right? That would be so good!

  • @bigg7379
    @bigg7379 2 месяца назад +2

    The space wolf shirt plays! Love the banter too guys. Thanks for the vid!

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      Thanks man, appreciate the feedback! Glad you liked the vid

  • @burningcoalctj7258
    @burningcoalctj7258 2 месяца назад +2

    Just started getting into space marines and 40k as a whole and I'm loving these unit reviews and your channel overall. They've really helped my list building and strategies as a whole. Keep up the great work yall. Also Steve is my space marine GOAT!!

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! so much glad to hear we are helping you crush the enemies of the imperium.

  • @peachesthedestroyer483
    @peachesthedestroyer483 2 месяца назад +4

    Don't tempt me with a good time making SW long fangs with heavy bolters AP2/3 and possible ignores cover plus the assault cannon/cyclone terminator!

  • @malekith13
    @malekith13 2 месяца назад +4

    The main issue with the thunderstrike comes from needing another unit to use it's bonus to wound while for around the same price you can get a gladiator that will do much more damage on it's own, no allies requiered and will be slightly more durable.
    The other two are at least cheap enough to be considered compared to other tanks.

  • @huskerdevil24
    @huskerdevil24 2 месяца назад +2

    Love the shirt! I need a 4th ed Black Templars one!

  • @KaDargo-uz3ub
    @KaDargo-uz3ub 2 месяца назад +2

    Loved the discussion. Never really considered this model before today. Ian clearly has the best shirt. Vlka Fenryka!

  • @justinc246
    @justinc246 2 месяца назад +6

    Stormspeeders at their current points are very flexible force multipliers on a great chassis. I also like their deep strike ability to make sure it gets angles if my opponent has a faster army
    Thunder strikes are the ones I use the most because it suddenly makes Redemptors macro plasma a respectable anti tank threat while that gun already is solid against elite infantry so a single thunder strike takes Redemptors from a bit specialized to more all - rounder. +1 to wound is also at the point where vindicators are just casually putting down crisis suits, zoenthrope blocks, and other multi model monsters/vehicle units
    My next favorite combination is the hail strike with a Fire Discipline Biologis + Aggressors package. The hail strike, along with storm of fire and aggressors close quarter firepower pushes the potential AP to massed AP 3 ignores cover fire with sustained and lethal 5s. The hail strike just needs to plink a shot onto the primary target and use the rest of its guns to clear screens for the aggressors to shoot one thing and charge another

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      oooooh some solid combos!

    • @justinc246
      @justinc246 2 месяца назад +1

      @hyperspacehobbies
      Also woe to the opponent who faces the "Prometheum and Prometheum Accessories" build: Salamanders Firestorm, Vulkan Hestan+Company Heroes, 1x5 intercessors, Apothecary Biologis with Forged in Battle+6 eradicators, 2x10 infernus marines, a Hail strike and a Thunder strike, and 3 land raider redeemers.
      Your redeemers flamestorm will be Str 7 and either AP 3 against a block of elite infantry (courtesy of the hail strike) and sending str 10 melta shots into vehicles / monsters with +1 to wound. Vulkan Hestan will select a single unit to receive full wound rerolls from melta and flamers and infernus marines can get the same benefit

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      @@justinc246 OOOF 3 redeemers! with a hailstrike and thunderstrike is actually nuts! crazy list!

    • @justinc246
      @justinc246 2 месяца назад

      @@hyperspacehobbies go big or go home

  • @TheDuxbuse
    @TheDuxbuse 2 месяца назад +2

    Would you ever take multiples, or even all 9? what kind of list would want that?

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      Wow thats a lot, I dont know if that would be good or not, hard to tell...

  • @TorrentKatten
    @TorrentKatten 2 месяца назад +2

    Since coming back to the hobby 4,5years ago, I have grown to hate those flight stands with a passion and I now use metal wire and epoxy to make flight stands, so nice to have something that doesn't break when someone in the building next door sneezes.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      That combo just cuts any Big Bad in half, unless they are rocking a Invulnerable save...

    • @danielkearl7392
      @danielkearl7392 2 месяца назад

      I put my inceptors on rock bases using cork for that same reason.

  • @Henticore
    @Henticore 2 месяца назад +2

    I like to run a Thunderstrike with two Vindicators for my Champions of Russ Detachment. If necessary those 3 together can pick off anything in the game or the Vindicators kill hordes and the Speeder uses it´s ability to buff Eradicators and small arms, before Ragnar, Ulrik and other angry Marines charge in. Not meta, but fun.

  • @stanberry6798
    @stanberry6798 2 месяца назад +3

    Crazy. I literally bought my first speeder Saturday. Built and painted it Sunday and did the base art yesterday.
    I had 130 points and thought a hailstrike would be more value for my imperial fists than inceptors for a tournament this month.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +2

      We got the message from the Local Gaming Store so we made this just for you!😎

  • @jasonpurcellau
    @jasonpurcellau 2 месяца назад +2

    that is my favourite codex, it got it when i first started playing 40k

  • @snowbjorne
    @snowbjorne 2 месяца назад +5

    Working on my speeder, but the big hold-back is that I dont like the stand. Magnetic solution coming up!

  • @GiftofChaosStudio
    @GiftofChaosStudio 2 месяца назад +1

    Steve is cool, but that Space Wolves codex was my very first 40k codex I ever owned so you win for today

  • @peterrowland2818
    @peterrowland2818 2 месяца назад +4

    Hey, if I split fire into different enemy units and successfully hit, do I then get the ability buffs for my other troops on all HIT units?

    • @mokane86
      @mokane86 2 месяца назад

      “Select ONE enemy unit that was hit”

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      That would be wild, but no It is choose one.

  • @JeanParisot
    @JeanParisot 2 месяца назад +2

    Do the speeders benefit from their own ability buff or does it only apply to subsequent shooting from other units?

  • @ryanprincessren2326
    @ryanprincessren2326 2 месяца назад

    They can also deepstrike which gets them where you want them. Pair them with plasma inceptors, the plasmas wound all vehicles on 4’s (re rolling cos rain linked) and the -3 AP 3 damage does work against monsters and vehicles. Also helps meltas to punch up

  • @MariusGage
    @MariusGage 2 месяца назад +1

    Gotta say the shirt is awesome.
    I don’t see any space marines on Steve’s shirt and he’s space marine Steve so who is the REAL space marine…right?

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      Clearly Ian is more of a "space marine guy" Steve never represents space marines, like who does he think he is?

  • @richardebourne6332
    @richardebourne6332 2 месяца назад +2

    Quite inexperienced player here, but looking to build out synergies with incursors and storm speeders. Wondering if 2x 5 man teams giving plus 1 to hit and then a storm speeders removing cover or adding AP is a strong combo or too situational? I guess a cheapish option to have up your sleeve tho for that one devastating round.
    And I assume being so cheap the storm speeders might literally fly under the radar with some players not realising their utility so rather than 1 or 2 rounds of benefit, you can easily get 3 or 4 even if you make a mistake with positioning.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      I find with space marines already getting Oath of moment and having a good "to hit" already. the +1 to hit doesn't really move the line in the form of damage increases. But that unit can be uses to move up quick and hold objectives.

  • @goomibear6900
    @goomibear6900 2 месяца назад +4

    X6 Grav centurions with thunder strike support in vangaurd spearhead can pick almost anything in the game up. Vehicles on 2+, bugs on 4+'s with the support. Point roll delete and run away when you get charged

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      oh ya the combos are coming out for these speeders in the comments!

    • @lagmeister3215
      @lagmeister3215 2 месяца назад

      How? Their buff doesn’t affect monsters and vehicles? Put a Russ Behind cover and they’re saving on a 2+ all day. Now if the hail strike didn’t have the restriction, then it would be amazing

    • @Nutellafuerst
      @Nutellafuerst 2 месяца назад

      It's so silly that the defining unit in the "sneaky" detachment are centurions of all things

  • @Kraytdragn
    @Kraytdragn 2 месяца назад +4

    Who looks cooler? For Russ!! I'm running a Thunderstrike with 2 Predators in a Ravenwing list with Company of Hunters. Not optimal, I know, but this combo is wicked.

  • @CalAndAly
    @CalAndAly 2 месяца назад +3

    My TStrike was the MVP for going 5-1 at LVO with Deathwatch of all armies 😂

  • @arianash7763
    @arianash7763 2 месяца назад

    I love the hammerstrike, I've used it to help take down c'tan. volume fire wounding on 5's? fantastic

  • @sludgedisciple
    @sludgedisciple 2 месяца назад +1

    Can any other SM players chime in, is this kit magnetizable at all for all 3 variants?

  • @curttaylor2861
    @curttaylor2861 2 месяца назад +2

    Damn speeder gumming up my boyz!

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +2

      HAHAHA next time you'll know what to do to counter Steve's Jank speeder play.

  • @Powaup
    @Powaup 2 месяца назад +1

    The +1 to wound thing is great for eliminators. Works great in the race wing detachment

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      Its rare when that one doesn't just make everything better.

    • @Powaup
      @Powaup 2 месяца назад

      @ been sitting on a storm speeder in the box. I think it’s time to crack it open!

  • @jonmattison3939
    @jonmattison3939 2 месяца назад +2

    Love the shirt! I've been sitting on my Stormspeeder for the last year, suffering with decision paralysis as to which one to build... Gotta find a way to help my Templars defeat my buddy's Tyranids...

    • @Artiifakt
      @Artiifakt 2 месяца назад +2

      Is he bugs or monsters? That would probably dictate your choice there. Also, if you already have some anti-tank (gladiators), that could skew your decision. If i were to take these, I'd probably take the hailstrike like what Steve suggested, just more all around improvement.

    • @jonmattison3939
      @jonmattison3939 2 месяца назад

      @@Artiifakt While he has Old One-Eye and 2 or 3 Dakka fexes, he's dabbled his list between both of those extremes: OOE/dakka fexes + 3x Flyrants... but also played Deathleaper, 2-3 Lictors, 3x3 VR Leapers, Broodlord+max genestealers.
      While I have all the rhino-chassis variants, I don't have any of the newer primaris/hover tank versions. No impulsor, repulsor, gladiator, etc. I have one each of the new dreads: redemptor, brutalis, ballistus. Multiple landraiders. My only Gravis unit is 5x heavy intercessors.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      If I could give multiple thumbs up, it would happen here first!!! FOR THE WOLFTIME!
      but ya the +1 to would monsters is pretty nasty Vs Nids, but also so does removing cover....

  • @jprovorse4159
    @jprovorse4159 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice shirt. Kinda wondered where speeders were at now. I would love to white scars but I have no speeders or bikes or atv so it would be an investment.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      Ya, I sorta feel like Firestorm detachment gets the best buffs from these guys, the natural damage increase from there strats and assault on the speeders makes them menacingly quick.

    • @jprovorse4159
      @jprovorse4159 2 месяца назад

      @@hyperspacehobbies Roger that. Thunderstrike kinda fits the eradicators in repulsors theme of my firestorm as well.

  • @michaelpopa5317
    @michaelpopa5317 2 месяца назад +3

    my problem with a thunderstike is for 10 pts more ill just take another lancer

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +2

      Ya that's a thing. but the 14" and fly means it can sometimes get into places the lancer cant. AND if it combo's with some other army elements.

  • @Victorious_Battle
    @Victorious_Battle Месяц назад

    Nice shirt, Ian!!!
    🤘🐺🤘

  • @MrTmullen
    @MrTmullen 2 месяца назад +1

    For Dark Angels Ravenwing in the Company of Hunters detachment, a couple big squads of Black Knights one with the Command Squad & one with Grand Master Sammael plus a Darkshroud. Would you include 1 Thunderstrike and 1 Hammerstrike? Or would you double up on one of them? Most of the remaining point will be used on Infiltrators, scouts, Outriders, Combi Lieutenant ect…. So the idea is to make those RBK’s as dangerous as possible before they buy the farm.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      I think that depends on your current opponents, If there is lots of Monster/Vehicle spam I would go with the Thunder. But if its more varied then maybe go with the Hammerstrike. I think you can magnetize them so maybe try both and see.

  • @edycoates726
    @edycoates726 2 месяца назад +1

    Run the Hailstrike for an extra ap and run the Hammerstrike for ignore cover!! Tasty!!!

  • @thecasualwargamer5195
    @thecasualwargamer5195 2 месяца назад

    I have a Thunderstrike but I've never used it. I just know that it will be taken down in the first couple of rounds and I'll be irritated that those points could have been spent on something that was more likely to survive.
    As for the flying stand.... just glue it. That's what I did and it never falls off. :)

  • @haroldh3
    @haroldh3 2 месяца назад +1

    I don't have to decide, I have one of each and run them in Ironstorm Spearhead.

  • @SL33KER
    @SL33KER 2 месяца назад +2

    Where's the 2nd ed Angels of Death T?

  • @imacanadianfox2166
    @imacanadianfox2166 2 месяца назад +1

    Love the shirt! 🙂 Where can I get one!?

  • @danielpaoli1093
    @danielpaoli1093 2 месяца назад +1

    First Born Vehicles for the Win...
    Ironstorm Spearhead Detachment I think would be the best spot for these guys.
    Imagine a world where you have Predator Destructor shooting against infantry after the Hailstrike Stormspeeder so now it is getting AP-3 on it Autocannons (4/6 Atks, S9, Damage 3), or AP-2 on its Stormbolter.
    Or going to it lesser brother the Annihilator shooting after the one that gives +1 to wound vs Monsters/Vehicles. You probably make that your Oath Target (so rerolls to Hit are covered) you have S12/S14 Lascannons/Hunter Killer Missile (so chances are high that you naturally wound on your 2+). Then when you use roll damage you get reroll 1s built in because of the Predator, but you still have your Ironstorm reroll if your other damage was low.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      These Combos in the comments are insane. I love it!

  • @icebow2059
    @icebow2059 2 месяца назад +1

    Love the shirt Ian!

  • @michaelgoodison1417
    @michaelgoodison1417 22 дня назад

    Im an ork player, but i definitely could use one or two for some kitbashing. Also starting a Raven guard army, so it might be a couple more 😂

  • @sludgedisciple
    @sludgedisciple 2 месяца назад +1

    I have been wondering if one of these could make its way into my Blood Angels LAG for some buffs.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +1

      Totally!

    • @sludgedisciple
      @sludgedisciple 2 месяца назад

      @@hyperspacehobbies Still feeling the Hailstrike in that regard? I trust your judgement.

  • @TheOrderoftheSigillite
    @TheOrderoftheSigillite 2 месяца назад +1

    The shirt is amazing. The only thing that would make it better is if it was paired with some Hyperspace Hobbies sweatpants!

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад +2

      OH I'm wearing em! but RUclips usually demonetizes whenever I stand up in those bad boys.😝

    • @TheOrderoftheSigillite
      @TheOrderoftheSigillite 2 месяца назад

      @hyperspacehobbies 😂

  • @ImmortalStrain
    @ImmortalStrain 2 месяца назад +1

    Put some blue tack on that flight stand and it solves it falling off to a breeze!!

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      Thats a good idea

    • @LordNerfherder
      @LordNerfherder 2 месяца назад

      Gw really showing their competence designwise. The prowess and the years of experience lead to this moment. Lets hope the bluetac solves it.

    • @dcb976
      @dcb976 2 месяца назад

      After a game where elder windriders kept falling off the stands, I began to just glue them.

  • @azrael1045
    @azrael1045 2 месяца назад +1

    What's the point of fly if you have to measure vertical

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      well if your a vehicle you can still leapfrog over most things. including enemy models and terrain.

  • @sailorcam6347
    @sailorcam6347 2 месяца назад +2

    simple solution drill hole and insert a pin. I used a piece of paper clip

  • @RFischer
    @RFischer 2 месяца назад +1

    The plushie is the coolest of all.

  • @wilhelmvonscream3146
    @wilhelmvonscream3146 2 месяца назад +1

    So now the question is, would you take more than one? Or take two different ones?

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      I don't see why not, but I would experiment with it.

  • @JeremyHilborn
    @JeremyHilborn 2 месяца назад +1

    I love the shirt as a Space wolves player all I gotta say is Awooooooooo

  • @hipnoq6600
    @hipnoq6600 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm here for the shirt...

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      Then Your here for the Right Reasons. And are Welcome Friend.

  • @level9Lab
    @level9Lab 2 месяца назад +13

    "Dude put the shirt away"

  • @zenbyo
    @zenbyo 2 месяца назад +1

    So you're saying these units can add some shine to my Outrider ATV?

  • @ScottAT
    @ScottAT 2 месяца назад

    If the Space Wolves stayed on Terra as Malcador said to Russ, the loyalists would have had the numbers to defeat Horace, but no. Russ had to seek glory.

  • @MrTrenttness
    @MrTrenttness 2 месяца назад +1

    🔥🎸🔥

  • @CharlieSkapentry
    @CharlieSkapentry 2 месяца назад +1

    2nd edition is superior in every thing. T shirt is rad

  • @etherd
    @etherd 2 месяца назад +1

    I cant wait for them to change the points costs *aka nerf* for these after everyone buys some.

  • @JaySharp604
    @JaySharp604 2 месяца назад +2

    I run a storm speeder thunder strike/hell blaster combo in my Stormlance. I have all the infantry killing I want, but it's always tough against vehicles and monsters. The big tough list against mine is the 12 wardog list. So, it's always good to be able to kill 1 or two wardogs a turn. And with the ride like the wind start, the speeder might survive a turn and do it again.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      12 wardogs are so difficult to deal with. Even the speeder might be outclassed against such silly walkers. But i would 100% give it a try I can see hell blasters just trashing with +1 to wound vs Wardogs.

  • @trevorbailey1101
    @trevorbailey1101 2 месяца назад +2

    First on the shirt. Thumbs down. Beardy cheating Space Wolves! If it was the Angels of Death codex would be a different matter. For the speeders, I agree with Steve that the extra AP against infantry is good. But if you’re building your army list around that, then it’s not 115pts. But 230 or 345. As you will need redundancy for when the enemy see’s what you intend and focuses all fire on the one. A couple of these with Aggressors or Bolt gun Inceptors dropping down could be nasty!

  • @Artiifakt
    @Artiifakt 2 месяца назад +1

    On the topic of blocking lanes - I love the idea, especially with the 14in move. How do you feel about this unit, versus the Ballistus dread?
    T9 vs T10, W11 vs W12. Losing 6" of move and fly is tough to maneuver, but I think the trade off of the 1 extra toughness really makes it difficult for most generalized "heavy guns" to shoot into the walker. I think they both have their tradeoffs for the specific "lane blocking" usage.

    • @Theresnoiinfuckyou
      @Theresnoiinfuckyou 2 месяца назад

      Run both. A thunder strike plus 1-2 Ballistus dismantles vehicles. I nuked an Immolator, a Castigator, and a couple of paragons with this combo in 3 turns.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      its hard to argue this one. I think it depends on how you build your list. and what you see being a problem when playing. Do you need tanky ballistus firepower? or Speeder firepower/maneuverability/Army buff? The combo of the Balistus and the Speeder is kind of savage... i like it.

  • @ImLegendaryMike
    @ImLegendaryMike 2 месяца назад +2

    Space Wolf Ian doesn't sound as good as Space Marine Steve , sorry Ian.

  • @CalAndAly
    @CalAndAly 2 месяца назад +1

    SW forever

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      My first army! My brother got me a pack of Grey Hunters for Christmas. Blew my mind.

  • @sphotoburpee
    @sphotoburpee 2 месяца назад +1

    I like the shirt

  • @crsmith6226
    @crsmith6226 2 месяца назад +1

    Steve should wear that shirt.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      HOW DARE YOU!. Ian would never lend ANYONE a shirt made of such fine silk and embroidered by the most skilled hands in the galaxy!!!

    • @crsmith6226
      @crsmith6226 2 месяца назад

      @ come onnnn it’ll be beautiful to see Steve in that shirt for all of your next video!

  • @zenbyo
    @zenbyo 2 месяца назад

    Poltergeist, but it's a really lazy spirit that just knocks over models with the flying stand.

  • @josephrigley8974
    @josephrigley8974 2 месяца назад +1

    I wish they'd designed it as a light skimmer like the landspeeder instead of flying brick like every Primaris vehicle. They're too expensive for me to buy when I don't like the model, the rules are decent though.

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      So many people are on the fence when it comes to the look of these things, I started out not liking them but I've come around, That ATV though....woof

    • @josephrigley8974
      @josephrigley8974 2 месяца назад

      @hyperspacehobbies well it replaces the landspeeder which was built like a light recon and harassment vehicle, but the storm speeder looks more like a flying tank and it just doesn't make visual sense to me in it's intended role. I'd like my speeders to look speedy.
      The ATV is clearly just someone at GW wanted to make the Batmobile and this is the best they could do.

  • @lordhelwintr283
    @lordhelwintr283 2 месяца назад +2

    Like your video guys but I don’t pay attention to point reductions because if it’s not printed in my 50$ book I don’t care.

    • @Johnnymarzo
      @Johnnymarzo 2 месяца назад +1

      Okay

    • @davidring681
      @davidring681 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Johnnymarzokinda a weird take but ok lol. What if your opponent uses the current real points while you are using the old ones? Could be considered cheating imo if it gives you a big advantage.

    • @Johnnymarzo
      @Johnnymarzo 2 месяца назад +1

      @@davidring681 lol I agree. Why'd you reply to me hahaha

    • @davidring681
      @davidring681 2 месяца назад

      @@Johnnymarzo whoops lol

    • @hyperspacehobbies
      @hyperspacehobbies  2 месяца назад

      Yeah this is an annoying part of the hobby right now for sure... I just want to buy the App code for like 20 bucks....Gimme.

  • @mrclopine
    @mrclopine 2 месяца назад

    Steve never looks cool