My Dad Couldn't Believe how Tesla FSD 12.5.1.3 Handled Escaping LAX
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Tesla Full Self-Driving (Supervised) 12.5.1.3 picks my Dad up from Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) and gets us out of there curb to curb with zero interventions, completely hands free.
I love FSD, and use it everywhere I go. Yes, it's not cheap. But the amount of sanity you gain in the dense urban and suburban areas without having to lose your mind, is a breath of fresh air. You can watch the road and the traffic around you, but focus on supervising the car, instead of just focusing on the road ahead. So then the driver becomes the copilot for the car, and you add assistance where needed, making the experience even better. Yes, like anyone who has and used FSD, it will make mistakes. But that's what more learning will fix. And just like us as teenagers learning to drive, we made lots of mistakes ourselves, and have gotten a lot better over the years. Same for FSD. Let's keep helping it learn, and it'll then be able to return the favor and help everyone, and become a reliable means of transportation for those that have disabilities.
Looks like you guys are enjoying father-son quality time together !
Incredible technology I wish my grandmother was here to see this. She loved the future but she was afraid to drive. She would have appreciated this on another level. Thanks for your videos 🙌🏼
I never would have imagined I could watch videos of other people doing basic drives in their own cars
But you & Chuck Cook make it incredibly interesting
Thank you for making these videos. You are really helping in showing what Tesla can do without fake information.
Thank both of you for giving us a very interesting video. The FSD RUclipsrs never mention what I feel is the best aspect: FSD has taken over all concerns about what’s at 5 and 7 o’clock. Leaving LAX would have given me a sore neck but now NO MORE 😊
lol I love how at 3:55 your dad says that he would turn on his blinker to let people know you want to move over into the fast lane saying someone may slow down to let you in. In NYC it’s the opposite. You leave your blinker off otherwise people will speed up to purposely block you out.
@copycatt2579
The difference between cutting someone off in traffic or not, is how much you give that driver heads up about what you are about to do ie. status of the blinker and time, so that the manuvre is as safe as possible.
People in general don't like nasty surprises and as a rule will get angry when placed in dangerous situation through no fault of their own. People also don't like waiting in line, but that's preferable to a all out war for the people in the line. Some people are too stupid, impatient, arrogant and self entitled to realise and understand this , so they try to go to the front of the line making the people in line to question if they are being played for fools... That's why they speed up. When Sneaking in without a blinker is a definition of cutting someone off in traffic.
Just as nose picking, road rage is a real and very dangerous thing, ... My advice is..Use the blinker and don't cut in front of the line, but you do you.. 😋
Omar, you have an amazing dad; treasure these memories. FSD 12.5.3.1 still has issues with hairpin turns and narrow canyon roads I tested - it typically drives way too slow, holding up traffic (like 12mph in a 25mph zone). On the upside, I’d rather it be safe than take unnecessary risk.
Exactly where?
I was at LAX on Saturday but didn’t have the guts to try FSD in the terminal area.
Love the Dad episodes
Decided to relax in our Model Y after getting home from work to watch this awesome trip. Looking forward to 12.5 soon on our hardware 3. 🙏 Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
v12.5.1.5 came last night for wife’s 2022 model Y .
I can’t wait to try it out !
Dad is talking in concepts while Omar is a literalist. My wife and I are like that and it is often frustrating.
Dude, through your videos, I feel like I've become part of your family. I was just thinking "ah, of course, almost forgot to pick up dad from the airport again!".
“Oh my god the car behind us! …..It doesn’t give a shit” hahahhahahahahahahah
Despite the incredible capabilities of FSD I’m just here for the car conversation between Omar and his dad
YOUR TESLA VIDEOS ARE AWESOME!!!! THANK YOU BRO!!!!!!
Don’t argue with your Dad 😂 his opinion is Well Respected
Home charging which easily greater than 50% of people have makes the necessity of public EV charging not as important as Gas stations.
While this is true, it is a biased statistic. Since it would seem that if people own a house they would be more inclined to purchase an EV vs someone at an apartment with no charging capabilities. The more important statistic (which we don't readily have) is, how many people without homes would buy an EV if they had easy access to charging at their residence.
It's incredible. I test drove the Model 3, and they just so happened to release FSD 12.5.1 3 days before. I asked it to drive me to my home, and it took me 20 minutes and across a state line. No hands from end to end. It blew my mind! I proclaimed 'It's HERE! FSD is here!' Just absolutely incredible to experience first-hand. Put in my order another test drive and a couple weeks later. $33,900 and 1.99%APR. I couldn't pass it up even though I swore I'd never buy new. With a car totalled from hail giving a payout of $13.5k, and the car still selling for another $10k, I could just pay cash. But going financing route so I can sell my car after getting the Tesla and waiting a few weeks in case it needs to go back to the service center. Then just pay off the loan after selling the car. $16k (including delivery, taxes, and registration) out of pocket to upgrade from a '15 v6 Accord to a '24 Model 3 just seemed like too good of an opportunity to pass up.
Love the videos with your dad. Reminds me of mine, may God rest his soul ❤
The videos with your dad are my favorite
Excellent! I still have a lot of distrust in the system to remove the steering wheel ? The lawyer's will line up? your dad is great !
i love the way your dad says "crazy"...
And "Correct"
Bro..have some respect for your dad
I noticed that too actually, maybe he is having a bad day
I was going to say the same thing. His dad reacts like its the norm from him.
I don’t think he is disrespecting his dad , Can be just exhausted , that is all , but I see why you think so
He doesn’t have any respect for himself. Still selling for the fascist that is trying to elect an orange idiot dictator.
So happy I'm not the only one. I picked up on several instances and it's like if you didn't really want him in the video, why make one with him?
I can see FSD becoming as common as air-conditioning in vehicles. Remembering when air-conditioning in vehicles were only for the top tier models.
Yes. And electric windows and central locking.
Your dad's question around 42:00 about how many gas stations vs charging stations made me curious. According to google, California has 13,786 gas stations. It has 448 Tesla supercharging locations, but between 10,000 and 15,000 (different numbers from different sources) fast chargers across all companies and between 100,000 and 150,000 publicly available level 2 or higher. That is not counting private home chargers.
So there are about as many fast charging locations now as there are gas stations, and 10x more publicly available charging locations than gas stations. Truly EV friendly.
I'm up in Idaho where, I'll just be nice and say we aren't there yet. If you're off the interstate, you're going to have trouble charging here. Northern California, not so many yet, either. But at least in central and southern California, there are chargers almost everywhere, with more being added all the time.
Your dad makes an amazing point when saying his excitement went from 100 to 10 during the ride. At the start he was a little nervous but in the end, you're just having a conversation not even thinking about driving or traffic. Amazing.
Latest issue I am having twice now same spot is it is supposed to turn left and it puts on the right signal like it is going onto the on ramp for the highway which is the opposite direction. Store 500 feet from me shows on map it needs to turn left and yet tries to get on highway.
Honestly, i prefer in ANY emergency situation that you're able to physically grab onto the wheel or pedals and quickly avoid collision or whatever. I'm just worried about that if it's all tech and no e-control kind of mechanic then all it takes is one bad electrical connection or a cyber attack that'll render the car inoperable and leave you easy targets. Not spreading hate, I'm just stating my personal opinion.
Not to mention situations where there are no lane markings. For example a lot of large events such as fairs, air shows etc you park in the dirt. No lanes. Or other situations such as construction or detours. I have had many times when a freeway entrance was closed and Google maps just kept routing me back there over and over. I had to get 5 miles away before it stopped trying to route me back there.
@@bigbaddms very true, my road was just given a fresh blacktop so no lane markers yet, so that would be another situation where their will be no FSD usage
Some very impressing maneuvers- god bless your father - so lovely your relationship with you dad
Dad asked a good question about the frequency of his interventions over time. Would be good to know the answer.
I enjoyed the FSD demo with your drive and especially liked your conversation with pops!! Your dad is spot on that Tesla is doing most of the heavy lifting for EV tech not only in the US but also all of Europe. Tesla’s biggest competition is the Chinese auto industry. They now lead in battery tech and rapidly gaining on the tech side. Regards!
That's great I did the same thing in my 2024 model X hardware 4 long range and it was great I can't wait for the day you fly in to LAX and you summon your car from home an it pics you up all by itself #myowenrobo taxi 🚖 😂
I wish my dad actually talked to me lol
Why dont he ? I hope everything is good regardless?
You should clip from 14:35 to 15:15 then upload to X as well as RUclips as it was amazing as your dad say it like a stunt driver that is just excellent.
My understanding was that they did use ultrasonic sensors with FSD, and Elon revealed that ultrasonic was removed because certain conditions would make it conflict with other sensors, and that was causing FSD to fail. They removed it to have a purer, more accurate and less computationally intensive data input stream, and it had the side effect of simplifying and making less complexity and expense.
Yeah. Ultrasonics are not only more expensive, but when the camera says this and they say that... which do you believe? I would rather choose the higher definintion sensor (camera) and have it be accurate.
That’s an cope he wanted to save money 😂😂 If ultrasonic didn’t work in certain situations, Tesla could have just code it to ignore it in those situations and rely more on the vision.
But on the flip ultrasonic only work up to 5 meters, so it really would only be used for parking at the most. Maybe bumper to bumper traffic. Which is the easiest part of driving. You can literally do complex math in your head while doing it.
LiDAR is king though.
@@T_Time_ Lidar can only tell you something is there. Not what it is. Very important for driving. That said, I think lidar as just a long range oh a car is coming could be good unless we have a camera that can also do that
Impressive, i now feel Tesla will crack the code within reasonable time!
The sad thing is that.. besides us sitting here, people have no clue about what FSD is capable of.
Maybe you can't play Water while driving for the video or your dad but I sure as hell can. Playing that song made watching you get out of LAX more relaxing.
FSD needs more training on lane positioning?
7:39 Lead car with FHD (Full Human-Driving) repositions car closer to the left side of his lane to allow a safe buffer zone between his car and the wide body bus.
7:44 FSD does not reposition to left side of the lane as it moves beside the wide body bus and stayed on the middle of its lane the whole time.
I just did this the other day for a drop off. I had to push it a little to make the early exit left which it looks like you couldn't have made even if you wanted to.
Thanks Omar! Keep them coming.
You’re fan is always so high
37:17 good point. cost efficiency is better than extend the battery ranges. There is no need for 500miles +.
I’d rather have a 500+ mile battery, but that fits my personal lifestyle. Would be nice to have multiple options in the future.
Yeah, unless its in the future when self driving is completely implemented and people literally sleeping in their car while it drives the whole night. But at that point, we also should have "wireless" charging where the car charges itself as well on wireless charging spots. But as of right now, the current distance looks like the sweet spot.
@@teipkep Or.. the car could pull into the charger and then make some sort of noise, we could even install something that makes noise... maybe a noisemaker... no, maybe just a speakerWAIT A SEC THEY ALREADY HAVE THOSE!!! to wake you up to plug it in.
I just received v12.1.5 😂😅 with AI3. I am ahead of you for a change
Ditto, I water a long time for this update.
hey Omar, has anyone proposed that cars display a little green light (or something) on the back somewhere when FSD is engaged? thoughts.
Maybe… there are instances of immature aggressive drivers closely cutting off a Tesla to cause the Tesla to brake hard. (Videos on RUclips).
I’m not sure if it’s a good idea at this point to advertise who or what is driving.
Why do you think it’s a good idea ?
I don’t understand why people are in such a rush to completely remove steering wheels already. seems like we should have fully autonomous cars (without supervision) for a year or two before considering removing steering wheels
Because then that will force the issue. The car can only self drive. But yeah it seems to me there are way too many instances of needing to steer yourself
There is a company who is working on a car with 100miles of range for those who want it. It's called aptera and they did a lot of work and change to make a car with that many miles and on a small battery too.
I can’t believe my eyes. This is incredible
15:07 seemed pretty dangerous damn lol
Just got 12.5.1.5 and had it almost go through three different red lights. How can that be? Everything else was perfect but it has a problem with red lights on streets with around 45 MPH maybe I’ll recalibrate my cameras.
It was on assertive mode. I changed to average and the red light issues went away.
39:55, ...even if you're an Uber driver...: An Uber driver told me his brand new Model Y started out with a 200-mile range on a full charge (ie. 85% top charge to 20% bottom discharge). Yes, 200 miles. After 1 year of Uber driving, his car racked up 68,000 miles and daily supercharging - every day. The range has gone from 200 miles now to only 150 miles. He would not charge above 85% because not only it takes long...it hurts the battery more...and, it doesn't get all that much more miles for anything above 85%. Also, he would try to avoid running the car below the 20% in hope of prolonging the life of the battery. As it stands, again, only 150 miles is the most he can go before he has to charge again. One...Fifty...no joke. So, let's forget about the EPA range. It's not even a farce. It's a fart.
I feel like in these situations FSD in all cars would reduce road rage, everyone knows that no one is driving, it’s just the computers lol
No sun visor for you Dad!!! 😂
I was wondering why - the visuals for the camera?
I swear all they need now is a cool 'Jarvis' type voice for FSD to make it 1000% cooler
Must say I am impressed on how good the fsd system works in LA. When it does it so good I think isn’t bad that all the people in Europe don’t get some of the features. Like Norway is a much easier place to drive than LA
I am impressed with the calmness and politeness of US drivers. I think in some other parts of the world, there would be endless honking of horns in such a situation.
Lol your standards must be low. American drivers are sh!t and rage all the time. European drivers are the best behaved along with japanese.
Thank you Omar. Thank you Omar. Thank you Omar.
What happens when another driver cuts you off, swerves into you; road rages? Fails to allow you to merge on a freeway entrance? Darts into the carpool lane from a dead stop? How about road detours and freeway closures? Dirt roads and dirt parking lots? Homeless walking or crossing in the middle of the road? Illegal u turns? These are daily events for me. How does fsd handle them?
Texas Cortex not switched on yet 🤯
In 10 years this will be the norm.
Interesting around 10 minutes where they are in a tunnel and FSD's display is imagining that there's probably oncoming lanes on the other side of the wall.
This is far a head competition
So close to FSD UnSupervised that is what I am really looking for. Let me be having a nap to and from the airport
How often do people need 500 miles of range? That just means you'd be hauling around a bunch of pointless battery weight.
@JohnCline
Better to have it when you don't need it than, not to have it when you need it.
It's a economic decision that you need to math it out. If the cost of hauling extra weight is negligible, then why not have the peace of mind from range anxiety? It's a failsafe like spare tire or spare can of petrol. 🤷♂️
Is this in chill, average, or aggressive mode?
meanwhile im still stuck on 12.3.6 and havent been offered the update yet :(
how come you're not touching the steering wheel at all, and the warning doesn't come on?
Play “Water” by Tyla 😂
@14:40 Wow, yes, but not surprising! And to think, this is just the beginning.
I thought it was a bit close... wouldn't have felt comfortable...
this is insane
Fsd just seems like it can do every day driving either as good as a human or better now I do agree with your father on the charging stations I live in a rural area in Florida near Jacksonville even the closest gas station is over 6+ miles away but charging stations is very limited & probably closest 1 is probably like over 10+ miles away & again in Jacksonville area probably no more then 100 charging stations or less. Now I don’t believe Tesla should be the only 1 solving this i believe like ford/gm/rivian needs to do their part in this & build way more charging stations cause some times in life we may not be able to charge at home all the time & for me at least once a month I do a 340 mile round trip from Jacksonville to Tampa & would need to stop and charge right now my gas powered Tucson I can do it on a full tank of gas can get about 400-430miles out of a full tank
WOW NICE
Full self driving will make the desire to own a vehicle fade away like the telephone landline. It wont happen right away but as people get used to ordering a ride that arrives in under 5 minutes and takes you anywhere you need to go for less than it would cost to drive yourself. That is when people will start putting off purchasing new vehicles.
what year and model do you have?
I’m still 12.3.6 😢
18 miles and consume 10% battery, meaning 180 miles with full charge, no one notice that ?
Why can't he put the thing up?
Something similar but with hw 3 please 🙏 👍
It's going to be much better when supervision is no longer required, because passengers will be focused on other things, and not care how well it changes or not changes lanes. They'll just be reading a book, watching a movie, or whatever else, and not even care how the car is doing.
Your dad has some great points about range and charging stations. Listen to his wisdom! I don't own a tesla yet because of range anxiety. Obviously day to day driving no biggie. But there are millions of people that don't want to have to deal with charging mid trip on the longer trips so they just buy an IC vehicle instead. This is me in a nutshell.
What do you define as a "longer trip"? Because my longer trips are typically 650+ miles. Most passenger cars can't make that without a stop. And news flash, I wouldn't want to make that drive (10-12 hours depending on traffic and construction) without a stop or five anyway. I stop a few times, stretch my legs (aka go to the bathroom because DAYUM), get something to eat, and by the time I get back to my car it's charged and ready to go.
Other than that, I charge at home, overnight, and never have to worry about gassing up. Ever.
I guess I am trying to say it sounds like you are making an argument to be less convenient *most of the year* so that the few times a year you drive a 'longer trip' then you can drive by cars that stopped at a charger for 10-20 minutes. I guess if that argument is enough for you, then hey, congrats.
Charging an electric car mid trip vs gassing up your IC car mid trip are too totally different things. Sure, if you want to take 45 minutes for a rest stop. I (and most people) rarely want to take much more time that it takes to fill up my tank (say 10-15 min). Especially considering the shady destinations in the middle of nowhere that you're charging at.
If they had say an 800 mile range, problem solved for 90% of trips. Clearly, if you're driving 1,200 miles, you're going to want to take a longer stop.
There's also the problem when you're going longer distances to visit family. Family rarely has charger at their home so you then have to go out of your way to find a charger when you get there. Super inconvenient. Longer range would solve soooo many of these problems.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a super Tesla bull. I just wish Tesla would tap into the millions of additional customers out there (like myself) by just adding a few hundred more miles to their range. This obviously comes at a cost with current battery😊 technology right now which is probably why they are not doing it.
It would still be way less expensive to drive your Tesla in town and short trips during your daily life.
My only expense is windshield wipers and tires…. Plus we safe an absolute ton on gas and government gas taxes.
It maybe costs about $3.00 to fill your car battery at home.
You could always rent an ICE car for you occasional long trips.
Financially you probably would be way ahead in the cost of transportation costs.
Yeah. I would definitely agree it would be cheaper to own an EV. Especially if I used it solely as an every day driver. Having to rent a car everytime a wanted to do a 500 mile road trip could work financially on paper. I just don't know if I could get myself to pay for the rental car or go through the inconvenience of doing all the paper work. It's a weird psychological dilemma.
I just truly believe if Teslas had 700 - 800 miles of range, it would solve so many problems for people like me. Many of which (as noted) being psychological.
What happened at 7:44?
He got scared thinking the bus is turning on to his lane but it didn't
7:45 what did you think of this intervention, Omar? Thanks for your video
? He didn't actually intervene. Car and other driver handled things fine, and while his hands went to the wheel, he didn't actually affect the controls in anyway. No FSD disable chime, icon on display stayed blue, and didn't have to turn FSD back on afterwards.
Is this hardware 3?
Hw 4
No stalks = new M3 = Hardware 4
Hernandez Mary Anderson Cynthia Davis Gary
Actually hardware on waymoz only must be buying a new tesla 😂 or will in future
Davis Gary Garcia Betty Lee Anthony
Hall Jason Lopez Larry Thomas Larry
Hernandez Michael Williams Charles Anderson Matthew
Davis Sarah Thomas Lisa Rodriguez Robert
ac was too noisy
You only notice that due to the lack of road noise 😎!
Next time he and his dad should sweat for your ear comfort.
Moore David Brown Shirley Martin Kimberly
It’s still a fraud. Doesn’t matter how you sugarcoat.
Dont voice your factual opinion to the cultist members. Remember Tesla is the best and Elon is the genius of the millenia
You are very rude
What do you expect from a drug addict fraudster
Fsd is 🗑 🚮 🗑
I love how sceptical middle aged men are towards technology. It's then driving the tech further because younger people take it all for granted.
Thomas Shirley Hall Laura Taylor Joseph
Lopez Ruth Lewis John Hall Melissa