Why People Think CM Punk Orchestrated His AEW Firing

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @kjd-s5b
    @kjd-s5b Месяц назад +468

    The real glass incident will forever go down as one of the most monumental butterfly effects in professional wrestling history!

    • @aniketsawant2240
      @aniketsawant2240 Месяц назад +48

      Hangman's promo snowballed into this & him attending raw backstage.

    • @kjd-s5b
      @kjd-s5b Месяц назад

      @@aniketsawant2240 Touche

    • @CollegeBallYouknow
      @CollegeBallYouknow Месяц назад +3

      @@aniketsawant2240 When did he attend RAW?

    • @leonel87658
      @leonel87658 Месяц назад +13

      well, the butterfly effect would mean something seemingly insignificant and unnexpected happens and triggers many other thinks, but this was more like someone deliberately making the snow vibrate and create an avalanche, there was always a possibility of things escalating considering that they agree to have a show for punk and people who agreed to work with him, also people from management talked to Perry first

    • @kevinadkins8548
      @kevinadkins8548 Месяц назад +9

      @@CollegeBallYouknowhe’s talking about Punk visiting backstage of RAW while he was still under contract with AEW

  • @MrReganomics1
    @MrReganomics1 Месяц назад +286

    Play it at about 1.25 speed to get a semi normal cadence..

    • @IrishPablo94
      @IrishPablo94 Месяц назад +24

      Thank you

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 Месяц назад +3

      Nah its too fast and robotic sounding for me

    • @mhuh
      @mhuh Месяц назад +9

      @@theoutsiderjess1869 because it’s ai.

    • @titorodriguez6209
      @titorodriguez6209 Месяц назад +8

      Better. Ty. Using this on other channels going fwd.

    • @freddyallen6155
      @freddyallen6155 Месяц назад +7

      Jesus Christ, thank you!

  • @peterludwig4599
    @peterludwig4599 13 дней назад +47

    The fun thing is that Punk told the truth all the time. And AEW made a complete joke out of themselves when the footage surfaced. This was so surreal to witness.

    • @KomradeKrusher
      @KomradeKrusher 16 часов назад

      Remember a couple of days ago, when Ryan Nemeth came out with his "I was threatened by CM Punk and AEW management did nothing" story? He tried to smear Punk for confronting him over talking smack behind Punk's back and all he accomplished was once again confirming Punk's claims about the non-existence of actual leadership within AEW.

  • @ryansongalia
    @ryansongalia Месяц назад +212

    This weird conspiracy makes no sense. So Punk ended a 7-year absence from wrestling, had a generational run that leads AEW to its biggest ratings, and then somehow mind controls Hangman Page to say something stupid so he could leave?

    • @karmadear2713
      @karmadear2713 Месяц назад +25

      It's a mark channel. Look at the rest of their videos

    • @AdamFellers-l3b
      @AdamFellers-l3b Месяц назад +7

      It’s an interesting idea, and would be BA if true. But definitely far from reality and extremely unlikely to actually have happened. At most, there was probably a conversation saying “I’ll go back to WWE when I’m done with AEW” and the cards just got to play out sooner than expected.

    • @jayramos6942
      @jayramos6942 Месяц назад +6

      Nah man if you really wanna think about it, this started in 2014 when he had that podcast & he & colt planned this out then. They predicted a billionaire would get in the business & colt would cost punk a ton in legal bills & he would sue punk so hangman could come in & go into business for himself 😂 LONG TERM STORYTELLING!! This guy is a Mark LMAO

    • @AdamFellers-l3b
      @AdamFellers-l3b Месяц назад +5

      @@jayramos6942 furthermore, from BTS. Endeavor secretly acquired AEW around the time they merged with WWE. So they’re very slowly creating storylines within each company to poach/pull talent from each place back n forth until they set up for an Invasion 2.0 storyline. Which that will take place over the course of 2 years. Until they decide to have 3 flagship shows, Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. It’s all so obvious

    • @christopheraaron8299
      @christopheraaron8299 Месяц назад +6

      No, that's not what anyone is saying. The Adam Page stuff was part of the reason Punk wanted to leave. Beating up Jungle Baby was his way of trying to get fired.

  • @murray1978
    @murray1978 Месяц назад +152

    The video lost me when you said that HHH and Punk planned to screw up AEW. He was happy there until the shit that started with the Elite.

    • @platinumpagoda3079
      @platinumpagoda3079 23 дня назад +2

      That's a funny way of stating it. Truth is that punk is a sociopath who used unsubstantiated internet rumors to assault his coworkers😂.

    • @RyanD2558
      @RyanD2558 16 дней назад

      ​@@platinumpagoda3079lol brain dead take

    • @rayflojenkins8689
      @rayflojenkins8689 16 дней назад +10

      @@platinumpagoda3079 I think Hangman page stating things to his face is pretty substantiated. Hangman was part of the elite which brought the Bucks and Omega into it.

    • @platinumpagoda3079
      @platinumpagoda3079 16 дней назад

      @@rayflojenkins8689 It was actually in the context of the angle. Punk can dish it out but he can't take it. Those "rumors" were in RUclips comment sections the day punk arrived in the company. Who tf cares? Punk did because he's a sensitive tool. He did a fantastic job of turning an irrelevant piece of drama into a narrative for himself. I get it though, I was a bit of a punk fan before he tore his vag the first time back in 2013. I'm pretty sure the only people that buy his BS now are zoomers.
      ruclips.net/video/54LJ6e4Mx20/видео.htmlsi=88NB7jEZabc2R6iH

    • @The_Shining_wizard
      @The_Shining_wizard 15 дней назад +4

      @@platinumpagoda3079Hangman pulled a dumbass move by shooting on punk for something he never did . 🤣🤣🤣 They lied on his name and then Jack Perry thought he could run his mouth and act tough and we saw how that went . Be real dude

  • @xaldyn9996
    @xaldyn9996 Месяц назад +203

    I don't think their was some grand conspiracy between Punk and HHH.
    I think Punk just wanted out and didn't care what anyone in AEW thought of him anymore so he just kept being an ass till they got rid of him.

    • @DaggerPrince
      @DaggerPrince Месяц назад +23

      he only ever Reacted. he wouldve never done anything to Perry if Perry didnt instigate everything. Punk would probably still be working for AEW if nobody instigated anything against him. he wasnt being mean on purpose. they were the ones pushing his buttons - and now they eat the backlash, because nobody wants to attend their shows or watch their programs without Him.

    • @MegaZer0
      @MegaZer0 Месяц назад +3

      ​The problem still lies on Punk, if you listen to what he said he understood it as them being okay, if he didn't get involved Perry still most likely would have said what he said.

    • @leonel87658
      @leonel87658 Месяц назад +12

      The lack of authority in the company is still a big problem in the company, now nobody punches no one, they just dissapear from TV if they don't agree with the booking

    • @travisprice1325
      @travisprice1325 Месяц назад +12

      This is such a bad take, imo.
      Tony is to blame. He didn't want Punk to leave, but he also didn't want to be the leader to resolve issues.
      No one wants to work in a toxic workplace.
      The Elite went to Punks dressing room when he was hot.
      Perry went at Punk.
      All of that is on Tony.
      You can see it in the immature behavior that The Bucks were pulling after Punk left.

    • @javierubinas1117
      @javierubinas1117 Месяц назад

      🎶It was CM Punk all along🎶 whether the stories are true or not that makes a great song line.
      Punk:And I screwed Glass boy too, hahahahahahahaha!!!

  • @SamWilson801
    @SamWilson801 Месяц назад +449

    He wanted to leave. He said it himself. He several times wanted out and Khan refused to. So Phil decided to do Phil things and get himself fired 😂😂😂

    • @kidz4p509
      @kidz4p509 Месяц назад +34

      That’s the thing about Tony Khan and AEW. Once you walk through the door, it’s permanently locked behind you.

    • @Aetolus
      @Aetolus Месяц назад +48

      @@kidz4p509 "Aight contract is up, I'm going to leave"
      Khan: "Lock the gates until we sign a new contract."

    • @ChrisFactor
      @ChrisFactor Месяц назад +4

      Sounds plausible

    • @stevenb427
      @stevenb427 Месяц назад +5

      When did he ever try to leave before he did?? Point out 1 instance of this happening...😴

    • @shenelljohnson74
      @shenelljohnson74 Месяц назад

      And we now bringing this up why?

  • @JohnKobaRuddy
    @JohnKobaRuddy Месяц назад +48

    He wasn't fired. He quit.

    • @JustBCA
      @JustBCA 15 дней назад +1

      no...he was fired...WITH CAUSE. go watch cry baby tony's promo

  • @moviereelnews
    @moviereelnews Месяц назад +21

    punk coming out for his final match vs joe at all-in with a massive grin on his face and saying 'goodbye' after the match....was a clear sign that he was finished with aew and him just doing that match was for the sake of his friend samoa joe.

  • @SalsBrain
    @SalsBrain Месяц назад +33

    The hunter punk conspiracy is dumb. But punk wanted out when he realized how bad the Co was run so I'd imagine he leaned into the cancer bit

  • @Hummelbein
    @Hummelbein Месяц назад +52

    And who started this childish shit? Hangman Adam Page because of Colt Cabana with his cryptic promos over a few weeks that no one understood at first except for CM Punk and Colt Cabana and the EVPs. And then in the press conference he apparently didn't hold back any more. Great wrestler, great person from my point of view...

    • @usernameperson6374
      @usernameperson6374 Месяц назад

      I never understood this point of view. If someone is acting childish, should one stoop to their level? The mature and professional thing to do is to be the bigger person and try to keep everything behind close door and part ways in a professional way. Instead of throwing a temper tantrum on a press conference, making him look unprofessional and impulsive.

    • @platinumpagoda3079
      @platinumpagoda3079 23 дня назад

      You think this guy is a great person?
      ruclips.net/video/54LJ6e4Mx20/видео.htmlsi=SH4bJtXKLCibr3Db
      You're just another mark that doesn't know s*** about CM Punk.

    • @Jeff_Pryce
      @Jeff_Pryce 19 дней назад

      @@usernameperson6374When the other side is spreading rumors and lies and propaganda through their buddies in the press that you’re some kind of monster running around and getting people fired, the time for “maturity” is out the window. The longer Punk kept his mouth shut, the more they aired stories anonymously to Meltzer and Sean Ross Simp and other clowns. Punk tried to get management to intervene as is the professional standard, only for management to not want to get involved. So Punk had enough and cleared the air his way.
      Punk tried being nice, it got him nowhere. He tried being professional, he was ignored. So he finally defended himself; that doesn’t make him a monster or immature, it makes him a man who knows his worth and doesn’t tolerate being disrespected without a response.

    • @Howling00
      @Howling00 19 дней назад

      punk has beef with the entire roster of AEW. How can one person have beef with 150 people. Sounds like to me, cm Bitch is the issue.

    • @DuskSkullin
      @DuskSkullin 15 дней назад

      ⁠@@usernameperson6374TK should’ve handled it then lol.

  • @lancea1202
    @lancea1202 Месяц назад +69

    You connect the dots moving backwards.
    When Cody was around, there were no issues in the locker room because he will conduct meetings with everyone and remind everyone that they were a team. Letting him leave was a big mistake TK did. The biggest mistake TK did is when he let Punk leave and let the EVPs take business on their own hands. Yep, Hangman Page is not an EVP but if you are an adult with common sense, why talk crap during a promo and do business for yourself ? Lets not forget the EVPs spreading rumors on the dirt sheets. Which were proven to be true. Punk is no saint. He attacked and choked people backstage and he should be held responsible. But everyone has a limit. Trying pushing someone over and over again then see what happens.
    Both sides have issues. End of the day, a guy who has no experience handling wrestlers who clearly have egos should not handle the booking but rather have someone else run the show. I was hoping AEW would hire Scott D'Amore but they didnt. Oh well.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Месяц назад +2

      Punk is one of the reasons Cody left AEW. He basically took credit for everything Cody did after he left WWE. Cody is the real CM Punk and Phil Brooks is just a fragile guy who wanted to be John Cena, a corporate suck up. Cody forced Vince to come to his house, Punk was willing to run back while Vince was still in charge with zero demands. Cody is the real one.

    • @Hummelbein
      @Hummelbein Месяц назад +5

      What did CM Punk claim for himself? It was the Young Bucks who saw themselves and many of their friends, apart from Cody Rhodes, as the heart and soul of AEW. CM Punk only claimed to be the dollar and the cent.

    • @CulEdz
      @CulEdz Месяц назад +11

      @@FernandoMartinez-pv1id sure, Cody hated working with Punk so much they ended up having a great working relationship in WWE. And there's been rumours about Cody not seeing eye to eye with The Elite when it comes to the type of wrestling they want to present. But sure, Punk was the reason Cody left.

    • @lodash5963
      @lodash5963 Месяц назад

      @@FernandoMartinez-pv1id Cody left because he could not even get over in the company that he claims to have build. He is boring. He politic his way to becoming a wwe champion and his reign is luke warm. Anything he does that does not involve roman reigns is boring. He is a mid carder at best. CM PUNK just proved that he is still the best at 46 years old, which is 10-12 years away from his prime.

    • @azizrampage
      @azizrampage Месяц назад +2

      @@lodash5963 Roman is boring himself , it was only interesting when Rock was doing the back and forth with Cody, Roman was irrelevant in the build up to Wrestlemania

  • @tugmasterson2575
    @tugmasterson2575 Месяц назад +97

    Pretty lousy one sided video. As if NO fault lies with AEW

    • @suolasfilms
      @suolasfilms 13 дней назад

      If I paid the amount of money he wanted, brought him back to wrestling for the fans only for him to act like golden child.
      He invested a fuck-tonne of money into bringing back that slag only for him to continue being a slag.

    • @KingMonkey89
      @KingMonkey89 11 дней назад +8

      The fact that they keep talking about Punk and what happened shows they can't get over it. Yeah he was the problem, It had nothing to do with guys who couldn't handle he was the whole show and since he's gone they keep making complete fools of themselves. They didn't want him there because they know they couldn't come close to his star power.

    • @JackylNest
      @JackylNest 8 дней назад +2

      Yeah definitely an aew npc

  • @cyber_akr
    @cyber_akr Месяц назад +137

    The issue is not with punk its with aew itself, no fucking structure, allows a jobber to go against their biggest star, allows guys to go on the business for themselves. It was a complete shitshow, people’s egos clashing and shit.

    • @reeseangle9621
      @reeseangle9621 Месяц назад +7

      Punk has been a problem everywhere he has been

    • @jayramos6942
      @jayramos6942 Месяц назад +30

      @@reeseangle9621then why did wwe take him back if he’s sick a big problem? 😂

    • @jayramos6942
      @jayramos6942 Месяц назад

      Exactly, AEW is Tony khan’s dad funded hobby & that’s all it will ever be that’s why they’re in the mess their in now. The wrestlers there are either retired vets who are cashing in on the khan fortune or Indy garbage wrestlers who can’t draw a dime to save their lives. Look at the Moxley stuff now with the elite nonsense 😂 meanwhile punk just came off fued of the year with drew mcyntire & drew & made millions without main eventing the ppv. But HES A CANCER! 😂 Jericho marks lmao

    • @AlbertGoh-h9b
      @AlbertGoh-h9b Месяц назад

      Absolute facts. The aew fan losers here can't accept it. The Bucks, Hangman and Perry are all insignificant nobodies and are part of "Risida Club". They hate Punk because he said NO to their dumb ideas and so they started a whisper campaign to poke him. Too bad it backfired with the dumb backstage footage, Punk is successful as ever in WWE while AEW is in decline in fan attendance.

    • @christopheraaron8299
      @christopheraaron8299 Месяц назад +21

      @@reeseangle9621 You say that, but it's not actually true. Hell, WWE LOVES having him back. He's comfortable in WWE today because the company is everything he said it should be in 2014.

  • @theglaznazn
    @theglaznazn Месяц назад +49

    I’m sry but Perry’s whole rise was gettin choked out by punk… n aews biggest draw was the release of the video…aew never recovered

    • @Jeff_Pryce
      @Jeff_Pryce 19 дней назад +2

      Still haven’t to this day. Punk was their golden goose and they let him go to defend jobbers who nobody knows but the owner because he’s some kind of weird indy nerd. 😂Meanwhile, Punk sold out Madison Square Garden, became one of the top merchandise sellers for WWE in 2024 and pulled in big numbers in metrics and mentions on mainstream media.
      WWE got a megastar, AEW got empty arenas. Great job, Tony! 👍

  • @Tony-vh9oe
    @Tony-vh9oe Месяц назад +36

    0:15 bottom right corner 😂😂😂

  • @christophercharles1937
    @christophercharles1937 Месяц назад +15

    As Punks friend, you know Daniel Bryan being the deciding vote for Punks firing was a bleesing from God for Punk.

    • @gianfrancopiccolomo5126
      @gianfrancopiccolomo5126 6 дней назад +3

      Bryan voted for Punk's release because Punk asked him to do so I think. I agree with the theory that Punk attacked Perry on purpose, he just wanted out and found a way to force TK to fire him for good so he could go back to WWE. He was fed up with the toxic locker room, he was never the cancer there.

  • @noirknight9770
    @noirknight9770 Месяц назад +21

    jungle jackoff is the goat of butterfly effects

  • @TrailerParkCinderella
    @TrailerParkCinderella Месяц назад +54

    He obviously did is this a debate? He was clearly done with AEW after Brawl Out in 2022

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Месяц назад +4

      He wanted to go back to Vince. Punk was always a fraud. He never did anything to revolutionize the wrestling world, that was Cody Rhodes. Punk basically took credit for everything Cody did and it basically sent him back to WWE.

    • @Artwr
      @Artwr Месяц назад +11

      ​@@FernandoMartinez-pv1idI just wanna know if it's and edible or smtg that you somked cuz I want that same trip😂

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Месяц назад

      @@Artwr name 1 thing that Punk listed in that pipebomb that he actually did. Cody literally did all of it.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Месяц назад

      @@Artwr youd be betraying your leader and his straight edge lifestyle if you did that.

    • @DaileyShorts
      @DaileyShorts Месяц назад +5

      ​@FernandoMartinez-pv1id dude you're commenting to obviously isn't straight edge if he, as we as myself, want a few of the gummies you've clearly had. You hoarding Death Stars for yourself or what?!

  • @HOLDFASTHOUND
    @HOLDFASTHOUND Месяц назад +16

    Punk showing up to raw in Chicago was probably just getting a feel for whether or not they would give him chance.

  • @alquimistaZ2
    @alquimistaZ2 Месяц назад +15

    I find it more believeable that after the Brawl out incident he wanted to leave (he admits as much) and then he started to have talks with WWE. I doubt they would've given CM Punk to AEW and let him have a lot of awesome matches, that seems like a backwards plan.

    • @erod52
      @erod52 Месяц назад +1

      He was hurt a lot of time he was there and had a lot falling out w the locker room.

  • @CulEdz
    @CulEdz Месяц назад +5

    Imagine how poorly ran your company have to be with events that could have been prevented if the company was ran by adults, that the company's downfall is being theorised as a conspiracy.

  • @darekforeman535
    @darekforeman535 Месяц назад +22

    Punk was happy when he first got there. Happy to be back in wrestling and happy to be in front of the fans.
    It went downhill fast. The constant rumors about Colt Cabana and the Hangman Page promo when he went off script were the start of the downfall. The rumors possibly being fed to the dirt sheets by people in the company was added fuel.
    The major issue was Tony Khan not being a boss and nipping the rumors in the bud quickly. He also didn't address Hangman about the promo. Punk responded in kind with his own promo.
    Then frustration boiled over at All In 2022 with the infamous scrum rant. I think Pink was ready to quit then. He called the EVPs children and when he made the statement he was seated next to and slightly pointed at Tony as he said it. The fact that Tony sat there and let Punk rant was exhibit A to what he was talking about.
    Vince, Triple H, Eric Bischoff, or any other head booker would have ended the press conference mid rant.
    The EVPs storming into Punk's locker room afterwards and getting into a brawl also was exhibit B of what he was talking about.
    Punk wanted to get fired then. When he was suspended and doing rehab for his injury he showed up at Raw in Chicago to "make amends", again probably hoping to get fired.
    AEW instead brought him back and they did a soft brand split with Punk heading up Collision. The Jack Perry series of events was exhibit C of working with children. And we see how it all played out.
    Fired with cause, no non-compete.
    Punk hasn't had a single issue in WWE since he's been there. But if you think back to his first run, he never got into a single fight in 10 years. He may have had some people he didn't like or that didn't like him, but at the end of the day they all got along well enough to work together and do business. That's the key difference, Punk couldn't stand Triple H and Ryback and some others but with a real authority figure, they still got in the ring and worked.
    Punk vs Omega, the Bucks, etc could have been huge if someone was in charge and sat them down and made it happen.

  • @VeeHausen
    @VeeHausen Месяц назад +2

    Really good job with the video mate!

  • @MetalThrashingMan13
    @MetalThrashingMan13 Месяц назад +3

    12:32 how many backstage issues have we heard about in AEW since Punk left? I'm genuinely asking because idk and I think it's only fair to hear how both sides have been since the incident.
    15:54 Triple H is known for getting people back in WWE, he got The Steiner Brothers and Jessie The Body Ventura back, and if you know how Scott Steiner felt about H and Stephanie you know it's a surprise

  • @1KQ_
    @1KQ_ Месяц назад +16

    Nick Khan has stated to have wanted cm punk back in wwe dating back to when he first started working with them in 2020, there's definitely a possibility that CM punk was in talks with Nick at one point and vince having one foot out the door probably solidified it

    • @blurplebear8573
      @blurplebear8573 Месяц назад +3

      Punk was on WWE programming for FOXs aftershow or whatever it was before he ever went to AEW. This hapened because Tony won't get his house under control.

    • @1KQ_
      @1KQ_ Месяц назад +1

      @blurplebear8573 true but CM punk had no connection with any wwe higher ups on that show if was strictly through FOX

    • @blurplebear8573
      @blurplebear8573 Месяц назад +1

      @@1KQ_ I am pretty sure he said in the Helwani interview that he talked with some people while he was on that show about it but I could be wrong.

    • @1KQ_
      @1KQ_ Месяц назад

      @blurplebear8573 oh right

    • @Jeff_Pryce
      @Jeff_Pryce 19 дней назад +2

      The main things that brought Punk back:
      1) Nick Khan taking a leadership role
      2) Vince losing power and ultimately resigning
      3) AEW being an amateur operation and having incompetent leadership.
      All of that led to one of the greatest returns in wrestling history.

  • @paulberry5750
    @paulberry5750 Месяц назад +37

    Tony Khan should never have put in himself in charge of AEW. He should have hired responsible adults to run things.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Месяц назад +2

      Punk has started fights in 4 different companies but this is Tony's fault?

    • @saviorself1164
      @saviorself1164 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id It all comes back to Tony. If he hired someone with a spine to run the show, Punk would probably still be there because the real problems would have been handled earlier on

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Месяц назад

      @@saviorself1164 so when Punk assaultes his coworkee in a public restaurant while he was in TNA, that was Tony's fault? That fight he had backstage in ROH where he charged at a coworker was Tony's fault? That incident in New Japan was Tony's fault? Im shocked!!!!!

    • @travisford6663
      @travisford6663 Месяц назад +2

      AEW sux it had its little honey time and then it all came out dropping every week of the year into the trash that is on today what a joke a geek runs it and only geeks like end of story trash!

    • @JohnKobaRuddy
      @JohnKobaRuddy Месяц назад +6

      ​​@@FernandoMartinez-pv1idTony is not a boss he's a pushover and his EVPs bullied an employee. AEWful fan swings AEWful fan misses time and time again.

  • @AdamFellers-l3b
    @AdamFellers-l3b Месяц назад +3

    Since he returned to WWE, he probably just grew up. A mix of that and simply just not a good locker room vibe in AEW.

  • @85wastedyears
    @85wastedyears Месяц назад +8

    I definitely believe it.

  • @gordyhowitzer
    @gordyhowitzer Месяц назад +4

    It's crazy to think Punk and HHH conspired to try to torpedo AEW. I tend to take these people more or less at their word - Punk thinks of wrestling as a business and an opportunity to draw and make money, and the brain trust at AEW is much more interested in putting on dream matches for their own sake. I think the heat just boiled over.
    Punk is, love him or hate him, a *superstar*. You can see it in ratings, merchandise, online chatter, any metric. To me, it's really disappointing that things didn't work out in AEW, since he was pretty often the best thing on that show.
    I think there's a fair portion of fans who only got into AEW in the sense that it was a company big enough for Punk to return to wrestling in. He was never going to wrestle in TNA or the NWA, for instance. They even traded on the idea of Punk coming back for the original All In show pre-AEW. When it all inevitably blew up, he took those fans and that momentum with him.

  • @reformedleftie
    @reformedleftie 18 дней назад +3

    In hindsight, Tony would've been better served suspending Hangman after he dropped the belt. Any further funny business being met with immediate termination.
    It really doesn't matter how you feel about Punk personally. Punk was to AEW what Hogan was to WCW. Now imagine if Hogan had an issue with Disco Inferno, what would Bischoff have done? Fired him on the spot.
    The fact that Hangman, and the entire Elite for that matter, have been barely relevant since Punk left, really goes to show just how badly TK screwed this up.

  • @IceSkreamNG
    @IceSkreamNG 4 дня назад +1

    I don't think punk and triple h sat down and came up with a exit plan, u had me until u said that, then I paused the video and made this comment, gonna close this window soon as I hit enter

  • @JobberJerry
    @JobberJerry Месяц назад +3

    Either way busting a window out of a rental car is ridiculous

  • @danframpt0n
    @danframpt0n Месяц назад

    great job on the storytelling and editing on this one.

  • @lean.2366
    @lean.2366 Месяц назад +5

    Tony worked himself into a shoot brother

  • @cathallynch1
    @cathallynch1 Месяц назад +2

    10:40 Perhaps TK may have technically terminated his contract ergo fired him, but Punk famously said to him after the scuffle "you're a clown and I quit", so I don't think it's some grand conspiracy since we all saw it coming except TK, it seems.

  • @UserSC87
    @UserSC87 13 дней назад

    Some interesting theories man. Well put together video. Good job kid!

  • @gimmeahellyeahH
    @gimmeahellyeahH Месяц назад +3

    If several professionals came to you to handle a situation because for some reason you’re expected to get shit done, and then you speak up for those professionals and then you find out the boss gave the okay anyways, you’d be like WTF. Imagine if jack did use real glass and never even spoke to the camera and punk never knew. Punk did what he was supposed to do

  • @Stuart267
    @Stuart267 Месяц назад +3

    *Got to give credit where its due. Punk handled his own when attacked for REAL whilst injured & according to stories he came out on top when 3 men came at him.*

    • @platinumpagoda3079
      @platinumpagoda3079 23 дня назад

      Bro, you have got to learn how to properly investigate the story. Punk admitted it during the ariel helwani interview that he was not allowed to discuss the injury because of an NDA, but he said that he could talk about what happened during the match that night. That means that the injury happened during the brawl, not during the match, get it? Punk injured himself trying to assault people😂. For God's sake, don't be such a mark. Have some self dignity. Don't just blindly follow anyone's story just because you like their schtick. Phil has been trash for over 20 years. And I don't even care about the young bucks, they are meh to me, but I've certainly never heard them say anything as abhorrent as this...
      ruclips.net/video/54LJ6e4Mx20/видео.htmlsi=88NB7jEZabc2R6iH

  • @michaelsuezo
    @michaelsuezo 15 дней назад +1

    The magic of cm punk is that he's so good at blurring reality and fiction. It's a great skill he has. Everyone has tried the shoot promo, but they all end up sounding too real for the backstage marks and don't add to the wrestling story.
    That Ariel Helwani interview shed all the light on punks' journey on AEW. Poor management that was sabotaging him plus a weak owner who can't control anything in his company. And of course a different mentality of what the wrestling business is for punk.
    He was never meant to last in AEW. Thankfully they got him back in the ring so he can finally come home to the WWE.
    The WWE now is what he's always wanted since he was hurting there years ago.

  • @beatsbygadfly
    @beatsbygadfly 13 дней назад

    keep in mind we do not know the details of Punks contract but he has suggested in multiple interviews that he was not merely signed as a wrestler but an EVP of sorts.
    So he isn't a "locker room leader" he was likely signed by TK to be an authority and manager of the collision show at least

  • @jsephtes5456
    @jsephtes5456 12 дней назад

    There definitely was an element of "well if you're going to paint me as some sort of monster, then I might as well be one".

  • @Superb_0wl
    @Superb_0wl Месяц назад +7

    it might b true

  • @ReasonablePerson-o7h
    @ReasonablePerson-o7h Месяц назад +27

    So Basically Triple H & Punk wanted to do to AEW what Vince & Hogan did to WCW

    • @JohnKobaRuddy
      @JohnKobaRuddy Месяц назад +1

      No because Vince didn't send hulk to wcw to end the company. Wrestling fans are not right in the head.

    • @DENIALSON7
      @DENIALSON7 Месяц назад +7

      Its sin to compare WCW with AEW.
      AEW is dying and tony is killing it.

    • @hawk0187ify
      @hawk0187ify Месяц назад

      Facts

    • @richardtherichard26
      @richardtherichard26 12 дней назад

      Lmfaoooooo you’re on crack cocaine 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @corrinnelindsey6568
    @corrinnelindsey6568 27 дней назад +2

    Well the positive side to him being in AEW is that it encouraged him to come back to WWE after 10 years. But I do believe the conspiracy that HHH and WWE purposely sent him to AEW and try to expose what’s really going on with Tony Khan and all the other people working there. HHH is smarter than Tony and knows how to get things done professionally. Sure HHH and Punk had a lot of bad blood but I feel like he would do it for WWE fans who never forgot about him and chanted his name for over 10 years. And to back up this theory someone took a picture of Punk outside of WWE headquarters while he was still working with AEW.

  • @kevinharris723
    @kevinharris723 21 день назад +4

    Here's the thing. What has jack Perry and the bucks done in this industry? Not a damn thing. I would have suspended Jack Perry and told him stay tf out of Punks way. The only time they've ever hit one million viewers was on the back of CM Punk and they haven't been anywhere near a million viewers since. Why tf wouldn't Punk be the leader of the AEW locker Room? He's headlined Mania he is a former WWE champion he is a former World Heavyweight Champion. Punk has wrestled John Cena, Undertaker and Brock Lesnar. Gtfoh

    • @The_Shining_wizard
      @The_Shining_wizard 15 дней назад +2

      Jack should’ve been FIRED. You don’t tell higher ups to f off when it comes to something dangerous and then shoot on camera towards the biggest draw in the company. If I was tk, hangman would’ve been suspended and Jack would be doing shows in gcw or some shit.

  • @uainjansun
    @uainjansun Месяц назад +5

    If not mistaken, punk mentioned months ago he was welcomed by vince

    • @carlDJS
      @carlDJS Месяц назад +2

      Only because they randomly bumped into each other at WWE HQ

    • @robrob9250
      @robrob9250 Месяц назад

      ​@carlDJS No Punk attended a WWE show. I don't know if he met Vince at HQ some other time but he met HHH at a show prior to his return to AEW from suspension

    • @timantoine3839
      @timantoine3839 Месяц назад +2

      ​@robrob9250 he met with vince after he returned at the HQ. When he was at the raw backstage, security asked him to leave. Most likely vince told them to get him to leave because he was still under contract at aew.

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id Месяц назад

      Yeah he was ready to run right back to Vince. Punk has never done anything revolutionary. Cody Rhodes is the real rebel. The guy in a $10K suit is more punk rock than Phil Brooks will ever be.

  • @suolasfilms
    @suolasfilms 13 дней назад

    “I’ll start, Nick! Show of hands, Who here fancies themselves as a journalist?”

  • @BePatient888
    @BePatient888 Месяц назад +1

    The fan theories are ludicrous, but WWE writing and marketing just capitalized on the bad publicity CM Punk got in AEW and turned it into a kayfabe storyline upon his return to WWE. CM Punk was not executing from secret plan with HHH. Tony Khan just refused to fire CM Punk after his first tantrum, and even made Punk the centerpiece of a new TV show (Collision). It was Khan's biggest mistake, and it cost him 300K weekly cable TV fans over the next two years.

  • @TimeBomb014X
    @TimeBomb014X 13 дней назад

    Punk left WWE a saint, left AEW a sinner, the man is a wrestling icon

  • @smellymewi
    @smellymewi Месяц назад +1

    I agree that Punk was finding ways out of his AEW contract after his return from the triceps injury and its just so happened that Jack Perry was the one who made it happened. Punk probably didnt feel like he was part of the AEW with many wrestlers backstage not approving of Punk's presence in the company so that only made it feel like AEW would be better off without Punk in it. The fact that AEW has no proper structural orders make it easier for wrestlers to grow big egos to dictate things to their favor.
    And as for Punk being a changed man in WWE now, he knows that this is his last dance before he hangs up his wrestling boots forever. He probably want to end off his in ring career on a good note and work with WWE to develop new talents as well as creating shows (since he mentioned in an interview that he was doing some of these things back in OVW). In a way, he want to redeem himself that he is not the issue on what happened in AEW.
    Interesting theory on Punk working with HHH to sabotage AEW but it is farfetched to say that tbh.

  • @bkrred7638
    @bkrred7638 Месяц назад +5

    They should build up story, not firing him

    • @loicdearaujo8557
      @loicdearaujo8557 Месяц назад +1

      Right. Vince always understood this : Bret Hart, Matt Hardy, Daniel Bryan and so on...
      Yet Tony Khan is not the kind of guy that would hit the gym and then take a stunner from MJF.

    • @Jeff_Pryce
      @Jeff_Pryce 19 дней назад

      Nah, Tony isn’t here to make money, he’s here to make friends. 😂😂😂

  • @VERDICTInsanity
    @VERDICTInsanity Месяц назад +2

    The Young Bucks look like trans women. And I for one am proud that they can wrestle in the men’s division! 😃👍

  • @warshallwathers7971
    @warshallwathers7971 Месяц назад +1

    Do people keep forgetting CM Punk quit on his own terms? He said it like a bunch of times 💀

    • @jayramos6942
      @jayramos6942 Месяц назад

      It’s some sort of a moral victory for aew marks that he got “fired”. They’d rather listen to the horse’s ass rather than the horse’s mouth. 😂

  • @markula_4040
    @markula_4040 Месяц назад +1

    Saying Punk and Perry colluding is far-fetched but not treating the idea that Punk and Triple H colluded just as outlandish makes NO sense. I'm not a fan of him but the idea that CM Punk would go to AEW to wreck a promotion he has friends in? To do something like that would be pure evil. I can't respect anyone's intelligence who might believe that could be true.

  • @lee.valley
    @lee.valley Месяц назад +2

    he didn't orchestrate it, he waited until one of the elite or the elites friends in this case, did something stupid and he handled it his way to get out of the sh!t show of a circus company.

  • @MrReganomics1
    @MrReganomics1 Месяц назад +1

    There is one issue that puts a glaring hole in this theory... Tony Khan tried to sign CM Punk in 2018 long before AEW had a show he wanted him for All In.. it was in fact, the reason Vince allowed punk to come back to the company.... in a reduced capacity, to keep him away from AEW.

  • @SkankhuntHHH
    @SkankhuntHHH Месяц назад +7

    Cm punk: " i never claimed that " 😹😹😹😹

  • @timothyarnold1679
    @timothyarnold1679 Месяц назад +8

    I'm sure Punk was thrilled to ditch that 3rd class mudshow.

  • @dreday5880
    @dreday5880 13 дней назад

    The main issue with Perry (which is never mentioned in this video) was that he was NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE ON COLLISION TO BEGIN WITH!! Collision was created as a brand split so that Punk and the “Elite” (and all their friends) wouldn’t have to interact because Tony can’t control his toys.

  • @VERDICTInsanity
    @VERDICTInsanity Месяц назад

    I also think it was a work to get Punk back to WWE. Punk was so adamant about pissing off the AEW locker room.

  • @IONIX
    @IONIX 10 дней назад

    Punk reacts exactly how one should to dealing with Narcissists. If you’ve lived through it, you know the level of gaslighting and manipulation that occurs.
    He isn’t the type to mince words, and is quite specific with his wording, where the others are clearly the manipulators, as none of them have kept the same story over the past few years, except CM Punk.

  • @conniecarroll747
    @conniecarroll747 12 дней назад

    I still find it hilarious that TK told people that he fired Punk because he felt his life was in danger. The man was no where near that fight. What a coward.

  • @12LooseLeaves
    @12LooseLeaves 10 часов назад

    I still don't understand the public response to seeing the backstage footage of Perry v. Punk. When I watched it my immediate thoughts was "Oh wow, CM Punk is going to jail."

  • @ibnjones6605
    @ibnjones6605 2 дня назад

    After the Adam Page promo, I knew CM Punk was leaving. I was interested on how.

  • @allsome1o1
    @allsome1o1 8 дней назад

    Only reason I don’t believe the theory is because he didn’t immediately get hired by WWE once he was fired from AEW

  • @chrisyoung5464
    @chrisyoung5464 14 дней назад

    The reality: WWE and AEW are in bed together in the same way McDonald's, Wendy and Burger King are. Competition is money 100% of the time.

  • @HDX21
    @HDX21 16 дней назад +1

    Tony Khan was the problem because he let the inmates run the asylum and not nipping shit in the bud after Brawl Out. And it's showing now. AEW has lost all it's shine because of the goofy BS that goes on in that company especially the inconsistency that is going on with their storylines as well.
    Khan want to be friends with the wrestlers instead of being a boss and leader of his own damn company. Ridiculous shit that could have easily been taken care of if Khan took the bull hy the horns and steer the ship correct.

  • @Sarahlicity
    @Sarahlicity 12 дней назад

    Remember around the same time Brawl Out happened, Triple H had taken creative control and was allegedly calling around trying to get some of his NXT guys back? It could be that Triple H was privately telling people "if you find yourself out of contract, we'll be willing to sign you".
    Basically, I think Punk basically tried to do the same thing as Andrade, but given Andrade was stupid about doing it, probably wasn't successful until the second attempt at Wembley last year.

  • @KomradeKrusher
    @KomradeKrusher 16 часов назад

    So HHH and Punk planned to paint AEW as "unprofessional" by simply letting AEW do business as usual? What a devious, despicable plan.

  • @scoonboon
    @scoonboon 13 дней назад

    Jericho and Cody giggling about Punk being the “the locker room leader”. Childish and jealousy.

  • @darshanshah3301
    @darshanshah3301 Месяц назад +1

    Cm punk always right forever my goat

    • @platinumpagoda3079
      @platinumpagoda3079 23 дня назад

      Was he right when he said this? Still a fan of the guy after that?
      ruclips.net/video/54LJ6e4Mx20/видео.htmlsi=88NB7jEZabc2R6iH

  • @ComeAtMe
    @ComeAtMe 14 дней назад

    I think Aew just has a mismanaged locker room

  • @prateekkspoor31
    @prateekkspoor31 25 дней назад

    Makes some real sense. He came back, saw He’s probably one of the most over guys ever, and wanted to go back.
    How would He go back?
    By getting himself fired. Now, He probably didn’t do it intentionally, but in his subconscious, He was okay with leaving cos He knew that He’d go back to WWE. Tony Khan also knew this and wanted to keep hold of the biggest star that AEW will probably ever have.

  • @jayramos6942
    @jayramos6942 Месяц назад +9

    Lmao this is an aew mark making this video. Notice he left out how meltzer & Alvarez were spreading rumors before & after the scrum & while Jericho was feeding them bullshit all because he’s mad cm punk stopped talking to him after he left wwe. If the evp’s, Jericho & hangman don’t spread rumors none of this shit happens. Also wwe stopped caring about aew as a whole when they saw what it was. Remember when they locked gallows & anderson under contract before aew started & then released them after aew aired its first couple shows. They took one look at the show & laughed & realized they’ve face bigger threats before aew. This is just an Indy funded hobby because the guy who owns it is a basement mark. He literally just booked a Costco worker on one of his shows lmao

    • @remer471
      @remer471 Месяц назад

      True.:( darn.

  • @hyperfilmz444
    @hyperfilmz444 Месяц назад +1

    He didn't do it on purpose. He was treated like crap by many and eventually led to do something about it since TK wouldn't.

    • @platinumpagoda3079
      @platinumpagoda3079 23 дня назад

      How delusional are you?😂😂😂
      This is the guy you are defending, and this is a big reason why nobody wanted him in the locker room in AEW. Seriously, get a clue bro.
      ruclips.net/video/54LJ6e4Mx20/видео.htmlsi=88NB7jEZabc2R6iH

  • @kerrydustin3996
    @kerrydustin3996 14 дней назад

    AEW choosing to keep Jungle Boy Jack Perry over CM Punk is gonna go down in history as one of the worst decisions in wrestling history.
    Can’t wait for the Dark Side of the Ring episode on this. 😅

  • @NewWorldOrganization
    @NewWorldOrganization 12 дней назад

    Spoiler alert: Phil Brooks intentionally got fired to return to WWE.

  • @thenightwatchmen_26
    @thenightwatchmen_26 Месяц назад

    Soon as they aired the footage I knew they were in on it nobody can tell me otherwise

  • @S0m0neRand0m
    @S0m0neRand0m 13 дней назад

    I think 3 things are true
    1 the AEW locker room is filled with a lot of flippy jumpy children
    2 AEW is unprofessional
    3 Vince is not in charge of WWE anymore

  • @corymartin9841
    @corymartin9841 Месяц назад

    Seth Rollins said that punk was a cancer to the WWE locker room

  • @djgremlin5830
    @djgremlin5830 14 дней назад

    Punk was one of the very few PROFESSIONALS in aew , anyone with sound mind can see the problem for that company .. ( such a shame )

  • @tommurrayGTR
    @tommurrayGTR Месяц назад +1

    That conspiracy is insane. How do you explain all the unprofessional decisions made after Punk was fired?
    Punk definitely wanted out of his contract but I don't think he orchestrated it to that level.
    End of the day, he was looking for the company to grow and prosper, he had his idea of how that worked and then there was younger wrestlers that didn't respect his opinion. At no point should CM Punk have had to explain himself, he was a proven star and making AEW millions in merch, ratings and ticket sales... so Tony should have interjected. Tony didn't and his entire company basically crumbled, it's still there because he has enough money to do what he wants but its credibility is killed, Tony looks ineffective as a leader the product is stale and overly choreographed and they are lacking faces that draw casual fans attention.

  • @stevArc3718
    @stevArc3718 23 дня назад

    I think the REAL issue was more about breaking glass...ON A RENTAL CAR

  • @CalmChaos
    @CalmChaos Месяц назад

    I love this channel

  • @HowlingForever
    @HowlingForever 15 дней назад

    Punk was saying On Collision, which Khan did pretty much Give to Punk in order to keep Punk separate from The Elite.

  • @Fitz_42
    @Fitz_42 Месяц назад

    He asked to be released several times, so maybe he took things into his hands, but he seems happy now, so everything turned out for the best.

  • @dasiareed2708
    @dasiareed2708 Месяц назад

    I honestly feel like Punk is different because he knows Hunter knows what he’s doing he’s watched the product and ofc talked to Hunter

  • @poohibue95
    @poohibue95 Месяц назад +2

    People have to stop doing this CM Punk QUIT! he Quitted AEW because the freakin boss is just a nice guy and not a real boss and he cameback to where he belongs and its WWE end of the story move on!!!

    • @hi-vv3jo
      @hi-vv3jo Месяц назад

      Horrible grammar

  • @CharleyIV
    @CharleyIV Месяц назад

    Punk wanted out the minute TKO kicked out Vince.

  • @ThunderForce2000
    @ThunderForce2000 Месяц назад

    Is it a coincidence that the issues between Punk and AEW came to light not long after Vince McMahon was gone from WWE?

  • @marcusbrothers5221
    @marcusbrothers5221 11 дней назад

    This is when Mr Brooks stopped being a punk and became CM Grown ass man! It's about time.

  • @ishmael802
    @ishmael802 Месяц назад

    Just look at CM Punk's first interview on AEW unrestricted. Listen to what he says when he talked about making his debut, He talks about what a carny would do in that situation. He is talking about himself.

  • @SUPERTROOPER89
    @SUPERTROOPER89 10 дней назад

    Nick Khan was the biggest push for Punks return, Khan is the money man, Punk equals money, simple

  • @namelisnobody2849
    @namelisnobody2849 14 дней назад

    If he WAS planted in AEW that would be a mastermind move to help discredit them.

  • @spencerh1428
    @spencerh1428 5 дней назад

    Can feel the spin from narrative

  • @dean0950
    @dean0950 3 дня назад

    I think the issue was there was no management in AEW. Tony khan was not harder enough to deal with it

  • @crowfeathermedia
    @crowfeathermedia 13 дней назад

    He went to AEW, threw his weight around, too expensive for being that fragile, pissed off the people that had been there from day 1. The conspiracy between punk and hunter has no weight whatsoever.

  • @robertowens89
    @robertowens89 7 дней назад

    It's so easy for a professional adult to make children act emotionally and erratic.

  • @MadRaiiden
    @MadRaiiden Месяц назад

    I legit just think that WWE "risked" getting Punk back simply because they saw the whole thing from his viewpoint. There already was guys like Cody or other former AEW stars that may have already talked about this "unprofessionalism" within the company