Thank you!! I'm a soap maker and now venturing into candles. Love the clean burn of soy but frustrated beyond belief on the scent throw. I've tried 464, 444 and even blending my own with a bit of paraffin. Just received Coconut wax yesterday because I am determined to concur this. So, stirring, and adding fragrance as cool as possible are key....now to figure out the tricks, if any to coconut wax.... This is the second video I've seen of yours...I appreciate your generous spirit in helping us get off the ground. Betsy~
Betsy Myers I would love to hear how the coconut wax works out. I haven’t actually tested that wax yet. Soy is a tricky one, I ended up adding more FO at a much lower temperature but the hot throw is never what I really want.
Look for a product there is actually 2... vybra 103 and vybra 260 they are intended for scent throw and color retention nature's garden has both for 4.99 a pound (you use small amounts)
Thank you for your knowledge and energy! I’ve been using coconut wax and it is the best so far in my opinion. It’s a proprietary blend 90% coconut wax, no paraffin. No issues at all. Expensive!
Great video. Just went through most of the comments and your answers for when to add FO to 464 range from 160-150 to 120-105. What do you think is the best temp to add it?
Amber Turner I did a test adding at 120-110 and had good results but adding that low can be trickier. You would need to make sure the wax is stirred and fully melted. The safer temps to add, and what most suggest are anywhere between 160-150. I’ve never had good results with adding oils that high but it’s all about testing.
Standley Handcrafted, Thanks for asking. :-) There's a lot of trial and error. I am trying to get a stronger scent throw from this 464 wax. I'm not sure if it's my wick or if my scent is burning off like you suggested in this video. ANY SUGGESTIONS???? LOL
Hi Jeff I have been adding between 180-185 and I let them two cool, on cardboard lined with foil and I haven't had any issues with HT abd no complaints from customers
Hi Jeff, I have been using a mix of 464 and C-3 soy wax 50/50 blend with approximately a 7.8% fragrance load with various FOs. When doing smaller tests in tins, I am getting amazing pours adding the FO at about 170 and then pouring around 140.( great hot and cold throw With small test batches, that temp change happens pretty quickly from adding fragrance, stirring and then pouring so it all happens rather quickly. In larger batches, I have tried to maintain the same temps but have found sink holes happening in my thicker glass jars (1/4") but not in thinner glass jars of the same diameter. I have been trying to heat my jars a bit before pouring but do you think the thickness of the vessels could have anything to do with it and possible solutions to counter that? Also, have you tried combining soy and coconut waxes together?
Great advice and beautiful kitchen :-)! Using GB 464 have you noticed a difference in your sinkhole probability or frosting when pouring at a lower temp? Also, do you think the density of the fragrance oil has an impact on the hot throw if poured at different temperatures?
Thank you! Yes, I have a video that shows pouring the parasoy wax at high temps and at low temps and there is no sinkhole whatsoever in the low temp one and a huge one in the high temp one. I believe its in the main how to make candles video. I think the fragrance oil being added at differrent temps definitely makes a difference. Too high you end up burning alot off and too low you end up with a bunch seeping pout when cooled. It's a delicate balancing act for sure.
Your videos are super informative and helpful. I've just started making my own candles (made two so far!) and they turned out great thanks to people like you who share their knowledge. Pretty proud of my perfectly smooth tops :) I have a question regarding temperatures. Do you know what is the purpose of heating to 180-185 if we scent at around 160? Thanks!
Thank you so much and I am glad they're helping. 180 just happens to be the temperature the wax gets too and it's fully melted. If you can melt it slower till it reaches 160 and it's fully melted you would be fine as well.
Hi! I'm late to the party but: What is the difference in using soy 415 vs 464 in terms of fragrance oils? Do you add a different amount of fragrance oils to one vs the other? Do they burn differently? Thank you!
Hi there. Great video. Thanks for sharing. I've been using 464 for a while and have had good and bad results. I've been adding my FO at 170 and have great results with some fragrances and not so great with others. Would it be possible to rapidly cool the wax so not to lose the fragrance? Like a water bath or something similar? I'm struggling with getting a good hot throw but that may be due to the fragrance burning off. Should different fragrances be added st different temperatures or the same across the board for all. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!
Do you heat to 180-185 first then let cool to 160-150 and add your FO? I have been adding FO at 185 and my hot throw is TERRIBLE but I have a great cold throw.
Informative video! I watch another video of your using 464 soy wax. You suggested adding the fragrance at 145 and pouring at 125. This video differs from the other one what's the best time to add fragrance??
I love your videos! I have a question, you stated that you pour at 180, everything and every other instructional video says to pour at 135... what is best, when I pour into glass jars, they set up and look like a chunky mess when I pour at a cooler temp.
Slightly off-topic question. When I am using 464, I am making bare votives with Candle Science molds and wick pins..... do you think that minimal air space between the wick and the "tunnel" that the pin makes is causing an issue for the wick to absorb the FO? Should I heat gun the wick to "connect" it to the wax?????
Very helpful videos! Question on the 464. Having issues with wet spots occurring. How do you correct this? I’ve tried to pour at different temperatures to see if there was a difference, but still getting them. Thanks for sharing!
Mary Austin Cox wet spots are very common when making candles and for the most part just accepted as a normal occurrence. Eliminating them completely is nearly impossible but you can reduce them a little with these few steps. Very clean jars, wipe them out with alcohol so they wax sticks to a clean glass. Pouring at the lowest temperature possible to reduce shrinkage from the wax as it cools. Some people even hear their jars so the glass and wax cools together and the wax can slide down the glass as it shrinks.
There are so many opinions on candle making. I spoke with a representative from a major candle supply company regarding GB 464. He told me to heat the wax to 125 degrees. Add fragrance at 115 degrees and pour at 110 degrees. See what I mean?
There absolutely are. The low temp methods are definitely not manufacturer suggested by any means. The specs that come from wax suppliers are to heat to 185-180, and add oils in high temps for proper binding, around 180-170.
Hi Jeff, I'm having issues with frosting when I decorate my candles. After the candle has set for 2 days, some times more, I melt the tops, add my decor and melt it again to seal in the decoration and sometimes I get a lot of frosting which just ruins the look. I use 464, pour at 140 into tins. I've tried keeping the tins warm while the wax settles, I've tried reheating right after it settles and its never consistent with getting rid of the frosting. I've managed to get rid of frosting with pouring but with decor its up in the air. Do you have any suggestions? I'm very interested in testing out adding fragrance at a lower temp. Thanks much in advanced!
Hey what would temp would you suggest to add fragrance using 464 wax? I watched your other video and you added the fragrance at a high temp, I believe between 170-175. I just want to make sure that when the candle burns that you can smell the fragrance as well.
I'm a complete newbie, never made one, just doing research now. Could you not put a lid on this jar to retain the scent? or would that interfere with the solidification of the wax?
Do pillar candles and container candles have different kinds of hot throw? What I mean is, would a container candle smell a lot stronger than a pillar candle? I have been using 140° paraffin pillar wax to make some gift candles. I used 10% stearic and about 12% fragrance oil. So it sounds to me from your video that I should add my fragrance oil so that it's maybe 10 or 20 degrees above its melting point to preserve the fragrance oil.
Michael Arato No they definitely do not all behave well in soy. 🙂 Most websites will have a soy rating that says how well it does. Always look out for that for sure. Candle Science does a great job listing soy friendly oils.
Thank you so much for these videos! :) I just ordered some Ecosoya Advanced wax I'm going to try (I'm a beginner). Do you have any tips for that? I know it takes a lot of testing for preferences but just thought I'd ask. Thanks :) -Holli
Some highly recommend either pouring & cooling in a cardboard box with cardboard dividers or wrapping the jars with a towel for a more insulated even, cooling. I'm just doing my homework before starting.
I’m using Soy Wax 464 , you suggest to add fragrance around 160 so should I still heat my wax up to 185 then wait for it to cool to 160 then add fragrance?
Always Mia & Kay Yes, heat the wax all the way up so it fully melts and then let it cool for a bit. Adding the fragrance oils at a lower temperature will save some of the burn off that happens during the cooling period
What temp do you pour 464? In my testing phase I’m making very little wax at one time so the wax cools really quickly, and if I pour at about 57-60*C then I should add my oil at about 75 at the least because as soon as I add the fo to the wax, the temp of the wax drops and further 2 min stirring will cool it down even further
Thank you soo much for your videos. Very helpful. Can you tell me in your opinion which is the best wax to use? Soy, or blend? Was using the 464 soy but having issues with it now. Thanks again
Thank you! I personally love the parasoy blends. They have the soy which alot of customers like but they also contain paraffin which provides a stronger scent throw. I do still make soy only candles but not as many.
Hi! Thank you for uploading these videos, they’re great! I’ve heard that paraffin is bad for humans, animals and for the environment in general. I would love to market my products as 100% natural soy, but after reading so many reviews about the poor HT of 464 im a bit worried! I am in the process of testing my candles, I just made my first batch yesterday! Could you let me know what your thoughts are on paraffin, and also how long I should cure my soy candles before testing? I made batches of 464 and of nature c-3. Thanks so much!! ❤️❤️👍🏻👍🏻
Great videos I'm new to candle making and your videos have helped me a lot. Could u maybe do a video on side by side wax comparisons the cool times, finished result sinkholes etc. Thanks x
Standley Handcrafted what temp do you suggest for adding fragrance oil? Also, could you do a video on how to fix a candle when it has “frosting”. Thanks
@@bobmorris5325 The fragrance loss isn’t that significant but just the grand scheme of things. But you can wait for the wax to cool down before adding oil and save some scent loss.
I noticed that my candles almost look curdled. I use soy wax and have been thinking of switching to a parasoy. Can you offer any advice? Thanks so much for these videos btw.
Danielle, I had that problem caused by 2 very different issues. In my very beginning, I was cooling too slow and noted that the ones in the center of the dozen with the heat held in had, what I called, cauliflower tops. Once I quickened the cooling, that took care of it. Then years later I ordered the wrong wax. Instead of 464, I ordered 415, a 100% pure soy wax. I thought, Yay! NAY!! Cauliflower tops, sinkholes to the bottom of the jar, easily seen thru the curds, they absolutely would NOT burn, but that didn't matter, they were too ugly to sell or use anyway. I tried remelting in the microwave, pouring out half the wax, adding the difference with scented 464, changed out the wicks to larger wicks and ended up with twice as many yellow and white, curdly, non-burning candles that I've discounted and written on the front in magic marker: WILL NOT BURN, USE ON A WARMER ONLY. I'm slowly getting rid of them.
Courteney Himsel Definitely! Soy is just to temperamental to make it worth it for me. I plan on making more in the future but I’m sticking with parasoy for now
Hi Jeff! I have been pouring my 464 wax at 110* and been having great luck with that. Is that too low of a temp to add the FO? If so, what is the lowest temp I can add FO to 464? Thank you!
Adding oils at higher temps is always recommended and easiest for blending but I have added successfully at 110. You just have to make sure you blend very well because you run a greater risk of the oils not binding properly that low.
I've been using 464 wax with about 11-12% pumpkin pie fragrance from candle science. I've tried adding fragrance at about 180 and at about 135 and I've had pretty terrible hot throws. I'm pretty new so I'm not sure if it's the wax or the fragrance being used...any advice?
Hi Stanley, this was an eye opener for me, now I know why my cold throw is not great. I now put my candles in my refrigerator to cool a little. Bjt thats tricky too because it can cause the wax to pull away from the glass containers.
Hy . I have a question the more cooler the wax 464 is is better and when you used 464 wax how much fo hold and a what degree pour.. thanks I just star this project..
I understand that putting cooling candles in the refrigerator can cause cracking from cooling too quickly. However, have you ever tried placing candles on a cold, wet dish cloth (and replacing cooling cloth periodically) to cool candles quicker and retain more scent?
Standley Handcrafted wow! Very fast reply. Thank you! I made a ton of wax paraffin candles MANY years ago. I am expecting a shipment of 464 soy tomorrow and am anxious to get back into candle making. I've watched several of your videos (thank you!) In a nutshell, double boil wax to 180*, remove from heat, cool to 170ish*, add fragrance, stirring constantly until cooled to approximately 135-140*, then pour. One more quick question... I don't have a melting/pouring tin, but do have a 4-cup glass Pyrex measuring cup. That should work, right?
harmanmaggie For 464 I would actually add the fragrance oils closet to 160. The wax is still fully melted and you’ll keep more fragrance as it cools. Pour around 135 and you’ll be good. I’ve noticed the new 464 doesn’t have many sinkholes so you can pour petty high now.
Hi, im new to candle making, i use 464, my cold throw is AMAZING (Perfect) almost if u will (lol), but my hot throw is some garbage, i saw your other videos an u suggested add FO at a lower temp, what else would you suggest, how do i actually know that the FO has blended with the wax??? pls help bc i actually found something i love doing an im gettin frustrated!! pls help
I used Soy wax 464 for the first time and I noticed that candles are a bit oily, I just added color, no fragrance, what could be the reason? thanks a lot
I have another question ha sorry...but what kind of wick would you suggest for the 464 wax in a 3 inches diameter container...I did the wick guide on Candle Science but they were all ECO wick. Are those recommendations ok or would you recommend an HTP series?
Please ask away, I'll answer anything I can. :) For 464 I have had great luck with the HTP104, and HTP93 as well as the medium wood wicks from Lone Star Candle Supply. They work great in that wax. Perfect melt pools. The HTP104 creates a little bigger melt pool than the 93 which is a good thing since soy tends to have a lighter scent.
gog4life10 I wold suggest using parasoy or parrafin starting out. They are both nice waxes that offer a little more flexibility while figuring things out. You can add the fragrance oils a little hot and still get a nice hot throw.
Hello. Love the information. I am looking at a brand called Ky Para-Soy Tart & Votive Blend. So, Im confused. Can I use this in a container. Do you know or have you heard/used this blend before?
Hello, I am on my second batch, and have noticed the fragrance loss problem. I have a question, wanted to share my process, and ask for pointers on both. My question: How do I stick the wick clip without buying anything like a Wick Stickum? My process: I am keeping a journal on my work to see what makes a difference in my processes. I have been running a very controlled process to try and replicate quality when I figure out the right temps and tools. I preheat 20 once of wax to ~180 F° and add my die, after checking the temp again, I then add my fragrance and take the batch off the heat immediately. I then pore the candles at ~145 F° into two 10 ounce preheated jars. the jars have been preheated to ~120 F° I want to find something like hot glue that will hold the wick in the center of my jar at this temp, but I am looking for the cheapest option. I did not search for this video today, but I am very happy that I found it
Hi Standley! Thanks so much for the video! I have a question I really really hope you can answer... I can't find any comparison between Ecosoya wax and the 464. Do you think Ecosoya will have the same issue? Or it would have a better hot scent through? I used 464 and I can barely smell it when I burn it... While I can add more fragrance to it but I don't want to exceed the max load. Really hope to hear your opinion as I might change the wax I'm using if neccesary. Thank you!! Viola.
Viola Wang unfortunately I haven’t used the ecosoya yet. I do hear good things but the 464 is the leader by most people’s account when it comes to soy. I don’t have the greatest luck with it either which is why I rarely use it.
The last batch I made I added my fo around 130 and poured immediately after mixing for 2 mins. I have one I cured for 24 hours and it smells amazing! I can’t wait to test the ones I’m curing for a week.
@@crystalrosado3927 Yes! I have some that have been curing since I posted this and they smell amazing! The others I waited 2 weeks to burn and they also smell amazing. As far as soy goes I think it is a great hot throw. I have 10 different scents from candle science using the same method and they all turned out great.
Is there a specific wax that cools the quickest? Thinking of hosting an at home candle diy project for the girls. Its great the 464 cools in an hour or so.
So, what do u suggest the right temp to add fragrance. I have been doing it at about 140 Degrees, but would like to go even later than 140 to really hold only the scent.
I don't understand. I used to pour my fragrance oil at 140° then 130° and was getting very little to no HT in my 464 wax. Also it took me a lot longer to make candles because I had to wait until the wax cooled down before pouring the FO. Now I pour it in at 185°. But some have a HT and some don't. So what temp should I be pouring the FO at? I use a CD10 wick in an 8oz tin. I'm experimenting now with CD14 in same tin.
Manufacturer suggested temps are between 180-170. You should be good with those temps. I like to pour hotter but still do some testing at low temps too.
Can you not just put a fan on to cool and solidify it faster. Or would that still cause the fragrance to seep out?? I have been using fans to cool my soy wax once poured I to jars.
hawee Ibrahim Cooling too fast can cause sinkholes and even cracking. Its always worth a try to see how they turn out. Sinkholes and cracks are easily fixed with a heat gun. 🙂
No not entirely. Evey wax is a little different. I have a few more videos showing the different wax and what their used for that I will be putting up soon. Paraffin cools much faster than soy, that one I pour hotter just because once it cools too much it's almost impossible to pour nicely or without a lot of residue left behind.
Hi jeff, 464 soy wax i am trying to make couple jar , it is turn out bubbles on the top i use the heat gun for it . 185 heat up the wax , i add FO -1 oz for 1 pound of wax? at 165 and pour at 145 my 8oz side of candle keep bubbles , please help for any advice, it cool down leave a shadow on the jar like air bubble wet ? Does all soy does it when cool down cure ?
Hi Jeff, thanks for being soo helpful. My question is, what Woodwick would you suggest for this 464 Wax please.....I just try to simplify my life by using Woodwick. Thank you
I'm using 464 and adding the fragrance oil at 122. But find that I am still losing the load, especially in melts and shot pots. What temperature do you recommend adding the fragrance oil? Also how long do you recommend curing them for?
c schaan I add fragrance around 160-150 depending on the fragrance. When I add it to soy I stir constantly to keep the wax fully opened up or melted until I add my fragrance then stiff for two minutes so that it fully binds.
I read that you need to reach ~180 to insure that the fragrance oil has the heat needed to devolve properly into the wax. I wonder if this is depending on our supplier? Possibly the dissolving point is different for qualities of fragrance oil?
Replying to this one also in case someone doesn't see the other reply. 180 is a good temperature to ensure that your fragrance oil will fully bind and almost fool proof when mixing. The problem is, especially when dealing with soy, is it take forever to cool so you end up burning quite a bit of that oil. You can add at lower temperatures but on the other side of that if you add too low you run the risk of the wax and oils not binding all the way which can cause seepage once cooled. Those would be very low temps though when you can actually see the wax getting that milky look again. The wax is fully melted at 180 which allows for the wax and the oil to fully bind together but the wax stays fully melted, or open, down to around 160 degree's If you ran into problems with scent throw I would test at 170 this next time and then once at 160 to see the difference. I have added at 155 with great results. No seeping and strong hot throw.
Witness Yes and that thought is still the industry standard. I’ve tested quite a bit since then and I’ve achieved the same results adding at much lower temperatures.
Awesome, thank you for the information! This is the wax we use and it has a great cold throw but even at 9% Fragrance load, some customers said they couldn’t really smell it
Jasmine Washington I assume you’re working with soy wax, it tends to do that more often than other waxes after burning. That’s just a normal thing with cooling soy. Not much you can do for that one.
Have you ever used the Candle Science IGI 6006 PARAFFIN/SOY BLEND WAX??? If so how do you like it??? I want to start making candles and was looking at buying this one.
Hello I use 464 soy wax and I make pillar candles when I add fragrance once there dry I go to take them out they stick sweat and crack up an they don’t be smooth what could I be doing wrong?
Standley Handcrafted is that only with soy? I use parasoy at 10% and can't seem to get a great hot throw. I just tried adding scent at a lower temp to see if that would help. Hoping it does!
Cooling to cold and quick will crack most waxes. This happens because the wax shrinks as it cools and pulls itself together as it cools slowly, when it cools too quick it shrinks in all kinds of different areas at once and cracks all over. You used 10% parasoy? What soy/parrafin percentage did you use? Soy is a difficult one to master as it doesn't want to hold onto fragrance oils as well as other waxes. I would love to hear if the new candle works!!
Yvette Jones Essential oils unfortunately will never give you a great hot throw, they’re just not that great for candles. You’ll want to use fragrance oils for a better scent throw. 🙂
essential oils are a lot more volatile and can be dangerous is added in high percentages and not combined properly. If they seep through , they are a real fire hazard! Be safe with your fragrances and do your research before adding essential oils so low
Why make the wax reach 180? Melting point is 115-119F, so can't we just make reach 140 or so then add the fragrance and stir also add the dye and stir for 2 full minutes then, pour!! Wouldn't it be better, since the pouring temp is 135F
Najah Shaban 140 degrees fully melted would be fine. By the time the wax in the pitcher is fully melted the wax is up around 180 anyway. Manufacturers suggest heating up to high temperatures so that the wax itself is fully opened up, but if you can fully melt around 140-150, you would be fine with adding FO and dye blocks. I heated to 180 to match manufacturing suggestions.
I read that you need to reach ~180 to insure that the fragrance oil has the heat needed to devolve properly into the wax. (I just pored a batch today, and had some trouble, thats why I'm here)
180 is a good temperature to ensure that your fragrance oil will fully bind and almost fool proof when mixing. The problem is, especially when dealing with soy, is it take forever to cool so you end up burning quite a bit of that oil. You can add at lower temperatures but on the other side of that if you add too low you run the risk of the wax and oils not binding all the way which can cause seepage once cooled. Those would be very low temps though when you can actually see the wax getting that milky look again. The wax is fully melted at 180 which allows for the wax and the oil to fully bind together but the wax stays fully melted, or open, down to around 160 degree's If you ran into problems with scent throw I would test at 170 this next time and then once at 160 to see the difference. I have added at 155 with great results. No seeping and strong hot throw.
Thank you!! I'm a soap maker and now venturing into candles. Love the clean burn of soy but frustrated beyond belief on the scent throw. I've tried 464, 444 and even blending my own with a bit of paraffin. Just received Coconut wax yesterday because I am determined to concur this. So, stirring, and adding fragrance as cool as possible are key....now to figure out the tricks, if any to coconut wax.... This is the second video I've seen of yours...I appreciate your generous spirit in helping us get off the ground. Betsy~
Betsy Myers I would love to hear how the coconut wax works out. I haven’t actually tested that wax yet.
Soy is a tricky one, I ended up adding more FO at a much lower temperature but the hot throw is never what I really want.
Look for a product there is actually 2... vybra 103 and vybra 260 they are intended for scent throw and color retention nature's garden has both for 4.99 a pound (you use small amounts)
Betsy....report back please! I am trying to figure this out as well. :)
Thank you for your knowledge and energy! I’ve been using coconut wax and it is the best so far in my opinion. It’s a proprietary blend 90% coconut wax, no paraffin. No issues at all. Expensive!
Extremely helpful, short, and to the point video. Thank you
I love you doing the video alone. Looks more professional and moves along faster
Great video. Just went through most of the comments and your answers for when to add FO to 464 range from 160-150 to 120-105. What do you think is the best temp to add it?
Amber Turner I did a test adding at 120-110 and had good results but adding that low can be trickier. You would need to make sure the wax is stirred and fully melted.
The safer temps to add, and what most suggest are anywhere between 160-150.
I’ve never had good results with adding oils that high but it’s all about testing.
Thank you so much for these videos! I'm a complete novice to candle making, especially soy. I was over here struggling until I found your videos. LOL
NostalgicNatasha Thank you! I'm glad they're helping people. How are the candles coming along?
Standley Handcrafted, Thanks for asking. :-) There's a lot of trial and error. I am trying to get a stronger scent throw from this 464 wax. I'm not sure if it's my wick or if my scent is burning off like you suggested in this video. ANY SUGGESTIONS???? LOL
What does your melt pool look like at the two hour mark? Does it go from edge to edge and is it about 1/2-3/4 inch deep?
Standley Handcrafted Same issue I’m going through. How are they coming along now since you tried this method?
Hi Jeff I have been adding between 180-185 and I let them two cool, on cardboard lined with foil and I haven't had any issues with HT abd no complaints from customers
Hi Jeff, I have been using a mix of 464 and C-3 soy wax 50/50 blend with approximately a 7.8% fragrance load with various FOs. When doing smaller tests in tins, I am getting amazing pours adding the FO at about 170 and then pouring around 140.( great hot and cold throw With small test batches, that temp change happens pretty quickly from adding fragrance, stirring and then pouring so it all happens rather quickly. In larger batches, I have tried to maintain the same temps but have found sink holes happening in my thicker glass jars (1/4") but not in thinner glass jars of the same diameter. I have been trying to heat my jars a bit before pouring but do you think the thickness of the vessels could have anything to do with it and possible solutions to counter that? Also, have you tried combining soy and coconut waxes together?
Great advice and beautiful kitchen :-)! Using GB 464 have you noticed a difference in your sinkhole probability or frosting when pouring at a lower temp? Also, do you think the density of the fragrance oil has an impact on the hot throw if poured at different temperatures?
Thank you! Yes, I have a video that shows pouring the parasoy wax at high temps and at low temps and there is no sinkhole whatsoever in the low temp one and a huge one in the high temp one.
I believe its in the main how to make candles video.
I think the fragrance oil being added at differrent temps definitely makes a difference. Too high you end up burning alot off and too low you end up with a bunch seeping pout when cooled. It's a delicate balancing act for sure.
Your videos are super informative and helpful. I've just started making my own candles (made two so far!) and they turned out great thanks to people like you who share their knowledge. Pretty proud of my perfectly smooth tops :) I have a question regarding temperatures. Do you know what is the purpose of heating to 180-185 if we scent at around 160? Thanks!
Thank you so much and I am glad they're helping.
180 just happens to be the temperature the wax gets too and it's fully melted. If you can melt it slower till it reaches 160 and it's fully melted you would be fine as well.
Great, good to know! Thank you so much.
@@StandleyHandcrafted My wax is fully melt at 120, does that mean it is adulterated ? thanks
You just answered my question I posted on your other video, lol. I will add my FO at a lower temp next time around. How low do you recommend?
Demetrice Strapp I’ve been adding my FO at a low temperature (~135) but not crazy for the HT. Perhaps I still need to cure for ~2 weeks.
I don't do anything lower than 150
what about cooling down with (while) a lid is on? would that prevent scent from escaping?
Hi! I'm late to the party but: What is the difference in using soy 415 vs 464 in terms of fragrance oils? Do you add a different amount of fragrance oils to one vs the other? Do they burn differently? Thank you!
So what temperature would u suggest adding fragrance oil to 464?
Great Video and a lot of help with the adding of the scent at lower temperature.
Adrain Wray Thank you and I’m glad it helped!
Hi there. Great video. Thanks for sharing. I've been using 464 for a while and have had good and bad results. I've been adding my FO at 170 and have great results with some fragrances and not so great with others. Would it be possible to rapidly cool the wax so not to lose the fragrance? Like a water bath or something similar? I'm struggling with getting a good hot throw but that may be due to the fragrance burning off. Should different fragrances be added st different temperatures or the same across the board for all. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!
I will add my FO at a lower temp from now on. Thanks so much Jeff
Lourdes Baptista Let me know how you like this method.
Howd it go?
Did it work for you?
Do you heat to 180-185 first then let cool to 160-150 and add your FO? I have been adding FO at 185 and my hot throw is TERRIBLE but I have a great cold throw.
Jenny Gonzales At the time yes, but since then I have started to add my oils around 115
Standley Handcrafted so at what temperature do you starting pouring? I’m new to candle making and I’m not liking my cold throw!
Jenny Gonzales i have the same problem, and i would also love to know if ifs really important to reach 185 if the FO is added at around 120?
Informative video! I watch another video of your using 464 soy wax. You suggested adding the fragrance at 145 and pouring at 125. This video differs from the other one what's the best time to add fragrance??
I own a candle shop I use 464 wax heat to 185 add fragrance at 185 and pour at 137 opinions vary
I love your videos! I have a question, you stated that you pour at 180, everything and every other instructional video says to pour at 135... what is best, when I pour into glass jars, they set up and look like a chunky mess when I pour at a cooler temp.
Slightly off-topic question. When I am using 464, I am making bare votives with Candle Science molds and wick pins..... do you think that minimal air space between the wick and the "tunnel" that the pin makes is causing an issue for the wick to absorb the FO? Should I heat gun the wick to "connect" it to the wax?????
Very helpful videos! Question on the 464. Having issues with wet spots occurring. How do you correct this? I’ve tried to pour at different temperatures to see if there was a difference, but still getting them. Thanks for sharing!
Mary Austin Cox wet spots are very common when making candles and for the most part just accepted as a normal occurrence.
Eliminating them completely is nearly impossible but you can reduce them a little with these few steps.
Very clean jars, wipe them out with alcohol so they wax sticks to a clean glass.
Pouring at the lowest temperature possible to reduce shrinkage from the wax as it cools.
Some people even hear their jars so the glass and wax cools together and the wax can slide down the glass as it shrinks.
Standley Handcrafted - Thank you!!
Standley question what temp you thinking to add the fragrance oil 100 or below degrees
There are so many opinions on candle making. I spoke with a representative from a major candle supply company regarding GB 464. He told me to heat the wax to 125 degrees. Add fragrance at 115 degrees and pour at 110 degrees. See what I mean?
There absolutely are. The low temp methods are definitely not manufacturer suggested by any means. The specs that come from wax suppliers are to heat to 185-180, and add oils in high temps for proper binding, around 180-170.
Did this work for you?
How did this work for you?
Hi Jeff, I'm having issues with frosting when I decorate my candles. After the candle has set for 2 days, some times more, I melt the tops, add my decor and melt it again to seal in the decoration and sometimes I get a lot of frosting which just ruins the look. I use 464, pour at 140 into tins. I've tried keeping the tins warm while the wax settles, I've tried reheating right after it settles and its never consistent with getting rid of the frosting. I've managed to get rid of frosting with pouring but with decor its up in the air. Do you have any suggestions? I'm very interested in testing out adding fragrance at a lower temp. Thanks much in advanced!
*I reheat the top with a heat gun.
Hey what would temp would you suggest to add fragrance using 464 wax? I watched your other video and you added the fragrance at a high temp, I believe between 170-175. I just want to make sure that when the candle burns that you can smell the fragrance as well.
I would add your fragrance oil to 464 around 150-140
For 6006 I typically add it around 155-150
@@StandleyHandcrafted And at what temp do you pour?
I pour after stirring for a minute, so add FO to 6006 at 150, stir for a minute then pour which would be around 145
I'm a complete newbie, never made one, just doing research now. Could you not put a lid on this jar to retain the scent? or would that interfere with the solidification of the wax?
Do pillar candles and container candles have different kinds of hot throw? What I mean is, would a container candle smell a lot stronger than a pillar candle? I have been using 140° paraffin pillar wax to make some gift candles. I used 10% stearic and about 12% fragrance oil. So it sounds to me from your video that I should add my fragrance oil so that it's maybe 10 or 20 degrees above its melting point to preserve the fragrance oil.
Thanks for the video! Is there a specific brand or manufacturer of fragrance oil that goes best with 464 wax or do they all work the same?
Michael Arato No they definitely do not all behave well in soy. 🙂
Most websites will have a soy rating that says how well it does. Always look out for that for sure.
Candle Science does a great job listing soy friendly oils.
Thank you so much for these videos! :) I just ordered some Ecosoya Advanced wax I'm going to try (I'm a beginner). Do you have any tips for that? I know it takes a lot of testing for preferences but just thought I'd ask. Thanks :) -Holli
Holli Brown Congratulations! I haven’t actually used the Ecosoya but the method should be almost exactly the same
Some highly recommend either pouring & cooling in a cardboard box with cardboard dividers or wrapping the jars with a towel for a more insulated even, cooling. I'm just doing my homework before starting.
I’m using Soy Wax 464 , you suggest to add fragrance around 160 so should I still heat my wax up to 185 then wait for it to cool to 160 then add fragrance?
Always Mia & Kay Yes, heat the wax all the way up so it fully melts and then let it cool for a bit. Adding the fragrance oils at a lower temperature will save some of the burn off that happens during the cooling period
What temp do you pour 464?
In my testing phase I’m making very little wax at one time so the wax cools really quickly, and if I pour at about 57-60*C then I should add my oil at about 75 at the least because as soon as I add the fo to the wax, the temp of the wax drops and further 2 min stirring will cool it down even further
Hello. Between 444 and 464 soy wax, is there one that you would recommend over the other?
Thank you soo much for your videos. Very helpful. Can you tell me in your opinion which is the best wax to use? Soy, or blend? Was using the 464 soy but having issues with it now. Thanks again
Thank you!
I personally love the parasoy blends. They have the soy which alot of customers like but they also contain paraffin which provides a stronger scent throw.
I do still make soy only candles but not as many.
Great! Is there a particular brand that you prefer using? For soy and a blend? And again thanks for your help and time.
Gina Johnson I’ve been using IGI6006 and it’s performed well for me every time.
Hi! Thank you for uploading these videos, they’re great! I’ve heard that paraffin is bad for humans, animals and for the environment in general. I would love to market my products as 100% natural soy, but after reading so many reviews about the poor HT of 464 im a bit worried! I am in the process of testing my candles, I just made my first batch yesterday! Could you let me know what your thoughts are on paraffin, and also how long I should cure my soy candles before testing? I made batches of 464 and of nature c-3. Thanks so much!! ❤️❤️👍🏻👍🏻
@@StandleyHandcrafted what temperture you add fregrance in parsoy blend ? and pour temperture?
Great videos I'm new to candle making and your videos have helped me a lot. Could u maybe do a video on side by side wax comparisons the cool times, finished result sinkholes etc. Thanks x
greerfamily_x7 Absokutrly. That’s a great idea. I will tag you once I post it.
This would be a great video. I would love more visual info on the different soy wax options.
Thanks for the suggestions David, I will see what I can do to get a video up for you.
Standley Handcrafted what temp do you suggest for adding fragrance oil? Also, could you do a video on how to fix a candle when it has “frosting”. Thanks
Standley Handcrafted hi. Can you do a video on parasoy like igi6006?
You found a problem, but what is the solution? How do you keep the fragrance in?
@@bobmorris5325 The fragrance loss isn’t that significant but just the grand scheme of things. But you can wait for the wax to cool down before adding oil and save some scent loss.
I noticed that my candles almost look curdled. I use soy wax and have been thinking of switching to a parasoy. Can you offer any advice? Thanks so much for these videos btw.
Danielle, I had that problem caused by 2 very different issues. In my very beginning, I was cooling too slow and noted that the ones in the center of the dozen with the heat held in had, what I called, cauliflower tops. Once I quickened the cooling, that took care of it. Then years later I ordered the wrong wax. Instead of 464, I ordered 415, a 100% pure soy wax. I thought, Yay! NAY!! Cauliflower tops, sinkholes to the bottom of the jar, easily seen thru the curds, they absolutely would NOT burn, but that didn't matter, they were too ugly to sell or use anyway. I tried remelting in the microwave, pouring out half the wax, adding the difference with scented 464, changed out the wicks to larger wicks and ended up with twice as many yellow and white, curdly, non-burning candles that I've discounted and written on the front in magic marker: WILL NOT BURN, USE ON A WARMER ONLY. I'm slowly getting rid of them.
Hi Jeff , so what is the best soy wax that you like to use? And easy to work with ?
GB464 is probably the industry favorite.
wow!! Is this {losing the fragrance} why you prefer the parasoy over the 464?
Courteney Himsel Definitely! Soy is just to temperamental to make it worth it for me.
I plan on making more in the future but I’m sticking with parasoy for now
Hi Jeff! I have been pouring my 464 wax at 110* and been having great luck with that. Is that too low of a temp to add the FO? If so, what is the lowest temp I can add FO to 464? Thank you!
Adding oils at higher temps is always recommended and easiest for blending but I have added successfully at 110. You just have to make sure you blend very well because you run a greater risk of the oils not binding properly that low.
Thank you so much for the reply! Can I ask, what do you mean by blending? Stirring well before and after I add the fragrance?
@@larawagner4313 Yep, that's it. As you add the oils that low make sure you stir well so it all blends.
I tried adding the FO at that low temp but the tops were really rough. Any tips? Also, how would I know if the wax and oil have not binded?
I've been using 464 wax with about 11-12% pumpkin pie fragrance from candle science. I've tried adding fragrance at about 180 and at about 135 and I've had pretty terrible hot throws. I'm pretty new so I'm not sure if it's the wax or the fragrance being used...any advice?
Patrick Day I would try a batch at 120 and see how those go for you. Soy stays melted for quite a while so you can add it really low.
Some say to add fragrance at hot temps, some say low! It’s soooo confusing!
The wax and oil will always blend easier at high temps. I like the low temp method but there are more chances for poor blending.
Hi Stanley, this was an eye opener for me, now I know why my cold throw is not great. I now put my candles in my refrigerator to cool a little. Bjt thats tricky too because it can cause the wax to pull away from the glass containers.
Odette Uys Be careful cooling them in the fridge, this will also cause cracking in the wax. :)
Hy . I have a question the more cooler the wax 464 is is better and when you used 464 wax how much fo hold and a what degree pour.. thanks I just star this project..
What do you think is the best soy wax brand that can hold scent better?
Good evening pls Mister we need more videos and tip with the 464 wax can you pls tell it holds 10% 0r 6% and what's the best temperatures..Thank
Do you find that 444 is similar? And do you think that the hot throw is just as good when you our it at a lower temp?
I understand that putting cooling candles in the refrigerator can cause cracking from cooling too quickly. However, have you ever tried placing candles on a cold, wet dish cloth (and replacing cooling cloth periodically) to cool candles quicker and retain more scent?
harmanmaggie I haven’t tried that. I know placing them on raised cooling racks can help cool quicker and also helps sinkholes.
Standley Handcrafted wow! Very fast reply. Thank you! I made a ton of wax paraffin candles MANY years ago. I am expecting a shipment of 464 soy tomorrow and am anxious to get back into candle making. I've watched several of your videos (thank you!) In a nutshell, double boil wax to 180*, remove from heat, cool to 170ish*, add fragrance, stirring constantly until cooled to approximately 135-140*, then pour. One more quick question... I don't have a melting/pouring tin, but do have a 4-cup glass Pyrex measuring cup. That should work, right?
harmanmaggie For 464 I would actually add the fragrance oils closet to 160.
The wax is still fully melted and you’ll keep more fragrance as it cools.
Pour around 135 and you’ll be good. I’ve noticed the new 464 doesn’t have many sinkholes so you can pour petty high now.
harmanmaggie Glass Pyrex will work perfect!!
Standley Handcrafted Thank you so very much!
Hi,
im new to candle making, i use 464, my cold throw is AMAZING (Perfect) almost if u will (lol), but my hot throw is some garbage, i saw your other videos an u suggested add FO at a lower temp, what else would you suggest, how do i actually know that the FO has blended with the wax??? pls help bc i actually found something i love doing an im gettin frustrated!! pls help
Great question, I'd like to know too. Thanks for asking, hopefully we'll get an answer.
Thats my question too. if you could please exp[lain a bit in detail.. thanks
@@believer1338 did u watch the video he explained it in detail what’s happening
I used Soy wax 464 for the first time and I noticed that candles are a bit oily, I just added color, no fragrance, what could be the reason? thanks a lot
I have another question ha sorry...but what kind of wick would you suggest for the 464 wax in a 3 inches diameter container...I did the wick guide on Candle Science but they were all ECO wick. Are those recommendations ok or would you recommend an HTP series?
Please ask away, I'll answer anything I can. :)
For 464 I have had great luck with the HTP104, and HTP93 as well as the medium wood wicks from Lone Star Candle Supply. They work great in that wax. Perfect melt pools. The HTP104 creates a little bigger melt pool than the 93 which is a good thing since soy tends to have a lighter scent.
Ok sweet! Thanks for the quick answer.
My pleasure, I'd love to hear how they turn out.
Will do 👍
Is there a particular wax that you would suggest for beginners that allow for a quicker cooling time?
gog4life10 I wold suggest using parasoy or parrafin starting out. They are both nice waxes that offer a little more flexibility while figuring things out. You can add the fragrance oils a little hot and still get a nice hot throw.
Standley Handcrafted what are the best wicks to use with soy/paraffin wax?
Does the fragrance oil still mix well with the wax at low temps?
I haven't had a problem
Hello. Love the information. I am looking at a brand called Ky Para-Soy Tart & Votive Blend. So, Im confused. Can I use this in a container. Do you know or have you heard/used this blend before?
Hello, I am on my second batch, and have noticed the fragrance loss problem. I have a question, wanted to share my process, and ask for pointers on both.
My question: How do I stick the wick clip without buying anything like a Wick Stickum?
My process: I am keeping a journal on my work to see what makes a difference in my processes. I have been running a very controlled process to try and replicate quality when I figure out the right temps and tools. I preheat 20 once of wax to ~180 F° and add my die, after checking the temp again, I then add my fragrance and take the batch off the heat immediately. I then pore the candles at ~145 F° into two 10 ounce preheated jars. the jars have been preheated to ~120 F°
I want to find something like hot glue that will hold the wick in the center of my jar at this temp, but I am looking for the cheapest option.
I did not search for this video today, but I am very happy that I found it
I can't keep my kitchen at the recommended 20 degrees celsius for cooling. What do you recommend for it to cure properly?
Unless it’s a huge drop in temperature, like 10°, I wouldn’t worry about it. A heat gun will fix any imperfections.
Hi! Do you have any experience with palm wax? I would like to mix palm wax with soy wax. Whats your opinion?
Jakub Hajdukonis I haven’t actually used palm wax yet.
So when’s a good time too add or at which point did you add your fragrance
RedFox7676 For soy I add fragrance under 130 down to 105
Hi Standley! Thanks so much for the video! I have a question I really really hope you can answer... I can't find any comparison between Ecosoya wax and the 464. Do you think Ecosoya will have the same issue? Or it would have a better hot scent through? I used 464 and I can barely smell it when I burn it... While I can add more fragrance to it but I don't want to exceed the max load. Really hope to hear your opinion as I might change the wax I'm using if neccesary. Thank you!! Viola.
Viola Wang unfortunately I haven’t used the ecosoya yet. I do hear good things but the 464 is the leader by most people’s account when it comes to soy. I don’t have the greatest luck with it either which is why I rarely use it.
So, which wax do you use and recommend for great cold and hot throw?
Thanks so much , You are always so helpful!!
lainey ruocco My pleasure. I’m glad I could help. 😃
What low temperature should you recommend for that wax
so at what temperature do I pour my fragrance ? and at what temperature do I pour to jar ?
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The last batch I made I added my fo around 130 and poured immediately after mixing for 2 mins. I have one I cured for 24 hours and it smells amazing! I can’t wait to test the ones I’m curing for a week.
@@hannahmcclure4873 hi love do you have an update on your tests 💗
@@crystalrosado3927 Yes! I have some that have been curing since I posted this and they smell amazing! The others I waited 2 weeks to burn and they also smell amazing. As far as soy goes I think it is a great hot throw. I have 10 different scents from candle science using the same method and they all turned out great.
Is there a specific wax that cools the quickest? Thinking of hosting an at home candle diy project for the girls. Its great the 464 cools in an hour or so.
J Hawkins 4627 comfort blend cools very quickly actually.
What do you think about outing the candles in a cooled area like a fridge?
Rico Smith Cooling too fast and cold could result in sinkholes and cracking.
So, what do u suggest the right temp to add fragrance. I have been doing it at about 140 Degrees, but would like to go even later than 140 to really hold only the scent.
lainey ruocco You could probably go a little lower but i would think much because around 135-130 you can see parts of the wax start to get solid. 🙂
Have you ever used american soy organics freedom soy wax ? thoughts if so?
I don't understand. I used to pour my fragrance oil at 140° then 130° and was getting very little to no HT in my 464 wax. Also it took me a lot longer to make candles because I had to wait until the wax cooled down before pouring the FO.
Now I pour it in at 185°. But some have a HT and some don't. So what temp should I be pouring the FO at? I use a CD10 wick in an 8oz tin. I'm experimenting now with CD14 in same tin.
Manufacturer suggested temps are between 180-170. You should be good with those temps.
I like to pour hotter but still do some testing at low temps too.
Can you not just put a fan on to cool and solidify it faster. Or would that still cause the fragrance to seep out?? I have been using fans to cool my soy wax once poured I to jars.
hawee Ibrahim Cooling too fast can cause sinkholes and even cracking. Its always worth a try to see how they turn out. Sinkholes and cracks are easily fixed with a heat gun. 🙂
Is this rule true for all wax types? --Pour fragrance in at a lower temperature. Would it stand true in paraffin or soy blends?
No not entirely. Evey wax is a little different.
I have a few more videos showing the different wax and what their used for that I will be putting up soon.
Paraffin cools much faster than soy, that one I pour hotter just because once it cools too much it's almost impossible to pour nicely or without a lot of residue left behind.
Hi jeff, 464 soy wax i am trying to make couple jar , it is turn out bubbles on the top i use the heat gun for it . 185 heat up the wax , i add FO -1 oz for 1 pound of wax? at 165 and pour at 145 my 8oz side of candle keep bubbles , please help for any advice, it cool down leave a shadow on the jar like air bubble wet ? Does all soy does it when cool down cure ?
Thank you for the video, but what is the answer then ?
Question: do you warm up your jars before pouring?
MV S No I don’t heat mine up. It slows down the cooling process. I tend to pour pretty low which eliminates the need to heat the jars as well. 🙂
Awesome informative videos! 👍🏻
Sherry C Thank you!! 😁
Hi Jeff, thanks for being soo helpful. My question is, what Woodwick would you suggest for this 464 Wax please.....I just try to simplify my life by using Woodwick. Thank you
Makes sense. Thank you.
Ok This is total bull oil has to be added at around 185 to bind to the 464 wax I find this so Mia leading where did you come up with this from
What is this 464 wax? U use eco soy wax and half to add almost 4oz to a small jar and it still doesn't hold the fragrance. Its really frustrating.
Is there a different soy wax that you recommend that cools faster than the one in the video?
Thanks so much, who knew!!
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What in your opinion is the best temperature to add fragrance to 464
Yvette Jones I get better results around 165-160
I'm using 464 and adding the fragrance oil at 122. But find that I am still losing the load, especially in melts and shot pots. What temperature do you recommend adding the fragrance oil?
Also how long do you recommend curing them for?
What temp would you recommend adding the fragrance?
c schaan I add fragrance around 160-150 depending on the fragrance.
When I add it to soy I stir constantly to keep the wax fully opened up or melted until I add my fragrance then stiff for two minutes so that it fully binds.
I read that you need to reach ~180 to insure that the fragrance oil has the heat needed to devolve properly into the wax. I wonder if this is depending on our supplier? Possibly the dissolving point is different for qualities of fragrance oil?
Replying to this one also in case someone doesn't see the other reply.
180 is a good temperature to ensure that your fragrance oil will fully bind and almost fool proof when mixing. The problem is, especially when dealing with soy, is it take forever to cool so you end up burning quite a bit of that oil.
You can add at lower temperatures but on the other side of that if you add too low you run the risk of the wax and oils not binding all the way which can cause seepage once cooled. Those would be very low temps though when you can actually see the wax getting that milky look again.
The wax is fully melted at 180 which allows for the wax and the oil to fully bind together but the wax stays fully melted, or open, down to around 160 degree's
If you ran into problems with scent throw I would test at 170 this next time and then once at 160 to see the difference. I have added at 155 with great results. No seeping and strong hot throw.
Didn’t you say in a different video that you want to add fragrance at 170-180 so it can stick to as many wax molecules as possible?
Witness Yes and that thought is still the industry standard.
I’ve tested quite a bit since then and I’ve achieved the same results adding at much lower temperatures.
Awesome, thank you for the information! This is the wax we use and it has a great cold throw but even at 9% Fragrance load, some customers said they couldn’t really smell it
Standley Handcrafted how long do you think they should cure before being burn tested or sold?
When my candles burn then I blow them out after it hardens again why does it have sink holes ? How to get it to harden again perfectly??
Jasmine Washington I assume you’re working with soy wax, it tends to do that more often than other waxes after burning. That’s just a normal thing with cooling soy. Not much you can do for that one.
Have you ever used the Candle Science IGI 6006 PARAFFIN/SOY BLEND WAX??? If so how do you like it??? I want to start making candles and was looking at buying this one.
Mama Bear That is the wax I mainly use. Out How to Make Candles video is with 6006.
It’s a great wax with an incredible hot throw.
Standley Handcrafted Ok sweet! Thanks for the quick reply
Thank You, Have u ever made scoopable wax ?
dark crystal I haven’t but I would like to do some testing.
How do we prevent the vapor that forms around when making candles?
how much fragrance do you suggest to pour per pound? I pour 1 ounce and that seems to be faint ?
Glad you got this one answered. :)
The Book of Ms. Chambliss what temperature and load did you end up using?
Hello I use 464 soy wax and I make pillar candles when I add fragrance once there dry I go to take them out they stick sweat and crack up an they don’t be smooth what could I be doing wrong?
You're using the wrong wax for pillar candles, 464 is meant for containers.
What would happen if you cooled in the fridge so less scent would burn off?
Samantha Moore Cooling too fast or too cold will result in cracking of the wax. :)
Standley Handcrafted is that only with soy? I use parasoy at 10% and can't seem to get a great hot throw. I just tried adding scent at a lower temp to see if that would help. Hoping it does!
Cooling to cold and quick will crack most waxes. This happens because the wax shrinks as it cools and pulls itself together as it cools slowly, when it cools too quick it shrinks in all kinds of different areas at once and cracks all over.
You used 10% parasoy? What soy/parrafin percentage did you use? Soy is a difficult one to master as it doesn't want to hold onto fragrance oils as well as other waxes. I would love to hear if the new candle works!!
I added my last essential oil at 160 and it didn't work for me. I use NOW essential oils for aromatherapy should I try 120
Yvette Jones Essential oils unfortunately will never give you a great hot throw, they’re just not that great for candles. You’ll want to use fragrance oils for a better scent throw. 🙂
essential oils are a lot more volatile and can be dangerous is added in high percentages and not combined properly. If they seep through , they are a real fire hazard! Be safe with your fragrances and do your research before adding essential oils so low
Exactly, and this is one of the reason I always try to steer people away from using essential oils.
I've tried adding at 150, and 130, and still no good HT 😭 using 10% FO
Just Danie Go down a little with the oil and try 8-9% and switch wicks if you have some others.
@@StandleyHandcrafted thank you! I'll try today
I went down to 8 and you def don't waan do 130 cause then your wax is too thick to pour out correct weight
@@carolynstevenson6191 sometimes it works and sometimes it gets thick. idk why it works like that, but im pouring at 140 now
@@carolynstevenson6191 If you stir all the way down to 130 you’re ok. You have to stir though. I’ve seen people let it sit til 130 and that’s bad.
How much fragrance to you usually add?
What temp do you add your FO?
Why make the wax reach 180? Melting point is 115-119F, so can't we just make reach 140 or so then add the fragrance and stir also add the dye and stir for 2 full minutes then, pour!! Wouldn't it be better, since the pouring temp is 135F
Najah Shaban 140 degrees fully melted would be fine. By the time the wax in the pitcher is fully melted the wax is up around 180 anyway.
Manufacturers suggest heating up to high temperatures so that the wax itself is fully opened up, but if you can fully melt around 140-150, you would be fine with adding FO and dye blocks.
I heated to 180 to match manufacturing suggestions.
I read that you need to reach ~180 to insure that the fragrance oil has the heat needed to devolve properly into the wax. (I just pored a batch today, and had some trouble, thats why I'm here)
180 is a good temperature to ensure that your fragrance oil will fully bind and almost fool proof when mixing. The problem is, especially when dealing with soy, is it take forever to cool so you end up burning quite a bit of that oil.
You can add at lower temperatures but on the other side of that if you add too low you run the risk of the wax and oils not binding all the way which can cause seepage once cooled. Those would be very low temps though when you can actually see the wax getting that milky look again.
The wax is fully melted at 180 which allows for the wax and the oil to fully bind together but the wax stays fully melted, or open, down to around 160 degree's
If you ran into problems with scent throw I would test at 170 this next time and then once at 160 to see the difference. I have added at 155 with great results. No seeping and strong hot throw.
I think that I will try ~160 F° next time and see what it looks like, based on your notes. my next batch is Ocean Breeze.
Thank you.
To cool the wax can u put it into water to cool it down
So what temp should you add FO with 464 wax?
Lori Cordell Manufacturers suggest around 180-170.
You can add lower but you run the risk of it now blending well if you’re not careful.
Standley Handcrafted thank you so much!!!
When you say degrees in your videos do you mean x°C or x°F
Trizer Otuge The videos are done in Fahrenheit. :)