Everyone is so mad at the 400z for some reason . It’s almost like they forget the 350z and 370z weren’t that fast either. Yet both of those cars are considered classics . A 20 year old 350z still collects a premium on the used market.
350 was pretty quick for its time I believe. 370 was decent. I don’t expect the 400 to be super quick or anything but it could be a LITTLE faster lol especially if it’s trying to compete with the Supra. But, what I will say is it just might be a tire issue mostly. Everyone complains about how trash they are. Hopefully Nissan starts building them with better tires
The power to weight in that Porsche is way better add the PDK and u can see the winner but I'd like to see the Z with actual launch control and better tires
The Z actually has a better power to weight ratio when you measure dyno results in similar conditions and the same dynos. But power to weight isn’t the only thing that matters. It makes sense to compare them, but would it make sense if one car has a 3 speed auto to a 10 speed auto with close ratios and instant shifts? That’s the perspective you should have, that there are many other variables to be considered
They suck! I had q50 red sport and felt like 300hp but Infiniti claims 400hp and transmission sucks too! Way too much turbo leg. You floor it and nothing happens for 5 seconds. Absolutely horrendous
This has been covered on this channel and every other review, the car is let down by mediocre tires. The Z should be comparable to Supra numbers. The Z makes Dodge Challengers look like they have AWD the way it struggles for traction
Nice win on the rolling race for the Z! I didn’t expect that. The launch control and the traction of the Boxster S are known to be amazing, so against the Z with less than ideal tires the result was a not a surprise. Maybe with a top shelf set of tires the Nissan would put up a fight. But from dig, I suspect the Porsche would win again, but not by so much gap.
Boxster s stock runs 12.3s Somehow my base boxster did a 12.3 as well. I guess mine was on low fuel, cold air temp, and smaller wheels, lighter unsprung mass
@@marvinenglish4547 They run low 12 s with the auto and a proper launch but the surface is properly not very good on this track they are using Warming up the tires and leaving it shift by itself will greatly help
@@jarvond21 Then they should change the tires, then he no longer has to excuse the Z every time. It is what it is, Nissan gives the car with these tires to the customers and thats it.
You gotta quit using the paddles. You CANNOT do better than auto mode. Put it in manual to hold the gear, then switch it over once you floor it. That Z transmission shifts slower than a manual too, it's crazy.
@@SamCarLegion Honestly, I've never seen anyone ask for it. If it were me, I'd do my research and see that in 99% of cars you can't do better and stick to that. Give the car the best chance to win is my position. People paddle shifting just do it to feel cool. I use them playing around at times, but if I've got my dragy out trying to get good times, I'm not using them.
Sam - Maybe we can do a kickstarter for the Z owner for better tires? I mean - if he blew $50,000 for the car, what's another $1500 for better tires that could save his life. Those bridgestones should be recalled!!!!!!
Exactly how are they going to put tires on their flagship car that can't even put the power down properly. Tires will make a huge difference on this car.
@@cobynewton7713 APR measured the actual power of the 718 S models and its closer to 380hp on premium fuel. at the crank i believe I have a 718 Cayman S and i deffo believe it lol
@@cobynewton7713 oh yeah deffo at the crank. In ideal conditions the car will do 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. So it’s a monster. I’m getting an APR stage 1 tune soon so should get 430-440hp at the crank.
@@qatar727 I have the first and the last Z naturally Aspirated high reving 6 cylinders manual transmission. Best daily driven examples of a sports car the new Z not. Especially there drive line low reving 🤮
@@SamCarLegion that's the thing though brother, tires will loose heat pretty quickly if your not actually prepped at that moment. I know it's not a prepped drag strip and it's probably customer cars so you can't beat on them to much.. I just feel like the z would perform better if the rubber was melting off lol. Love your videos keep them coming :)
I still don't get the point of drag races to determine which crosses the line first. Other than views and entertainment. Take out the reaction times and human error, run the cars separately using a timing device. Could provide real world factual data without another driver by using a $150 Dragy.
Sometimes it not always about the results, the 718 is a superior car. But man we had a blast ripping some fun cars and that's what its all about. Enjoy the video.
Press car my guy, he doesnt have the ability to swap out tires. Its real time commentary on poorly equipped RWD sports car. It played a major roll in holding the car back.
I love the twin turbo they put in the Z and the new styling, but I wish they kept the interior budget down. They don't need to keep it rachet like the previous gen, but an interior that is similar to the veloster N and ditch some of the tech so they can keep the price down
Remember the 510, stanza with the multi link rear, last generation 240 sx with the hicas so many great engineered cars but I agree with you that they self destructed in the 90s
Yup!! Nothing beats Porsche PDK and BMW ZF by Riccardo there the Best transmission on the market!! Nissan well its a whale car to heavy!! Is just a custom product for the people to buy and over price Nothing more than that!!
Nissan Z might not be that fast stock, but wait till a lot of them are fbo and tuned they will be hurting V8 boys feelings. These cars need full downpipes and exhaust just like the Q50/60 as they are really restricted stock.
Maybe try warming up the tires like warm it up good until its fully heated and warm, then maybe you can do launch control! There's a reason they gave it launch control! People are hitting 4 flat. Also if its possible to get those michellin pilot sport 4s and see the difference
Z needs tires / tune... .I think we have all been saying this for ? what ? 6+ months now? Here's an idea: Go put those crappy bridgestones on the Porsche - then - send the video to Bridgestone. ;-)
Correct. Ive not seen a single tester that hasnt complained about the lack of grip from the tyres on the Z. Everyone complains about the tyres on the Z.
The Porsche would hook still lol. The Pirelli are not much better honestly. The mid engine, better launch control, and better transmission would cover the tires' ineptitude.
Get the Z new/better tires already!!! Lol I'm tired of hearing the excuses for the tires. Z is a good car damn good car!! Not a great one though Let's see the 718 S vs Supra
A bit bigger four cylinder at 2.5L Subaru has made 315 out of 2.5 for 20 years now (never increased it though). GM makes 325 out of 2.7L. Ford makes 350 out of 2.3L. Mercedes makes 415 out of 2.0 liters! Pretty impressive from Porsche, but not unheard of.
I use to be a z fan,but watching that z in every race changed my mind.the only car that z beat was the infinity,and that was from a roll.nissan drop the ball on this one if you ask me.400hp is not enough for the weight of that car,plus that z trans draggs.it has the same old transmission from to 2003 350
If you take the entire driving experience in consideration than yes, the Porsche is worth the cost difference. Now if you consider the mark up for the Z, the Porsche seems like a bargain.
Look at the video again. No grip from a dig, but on a roll where traction is not needed, it wins, head to head with mustang Gt and scat pack challengers and does keep pace with the supra. Zs never really been manufactured for 0-60. Have some fun and drift this around the track.
Ok but this "tires" thing has been said in several videos.. can SOMEONE find a pair of ACCEPTABLE tires and let's finally see what's up head to head.. not from a roll.
Facts porsche (like all german cars) underrate their power figures on paper to make their cars appear so much better than other cars that make the actual claim power figures or in some cases make less because of types of gas put in them. Especially nissans make less power than advertised without premium fuel. Porsche make 50hp more than claim in almost all models. Watch Carwow latest review of german top sedans where bmw,benz,porsche, audi competed the only car made its claim figures was the audi, with porsche panamera turbo s hybrid advertised as 700hp making 750hp 50hp more. There is also a dyno where the latest 911 gt2 rs rated at 700hp on paper in actual dyno test made 770hp crank that is 70hp more than porsche claims. Also those nurburgring times set were on race tyres not production tyres. Porsche been lying an cheating for years. Everyone knows there a protected brand. A german strategy underrate their power figures to appear more capable than the others. There should be a rule in the automotive world where if a manufacturer makes a certain it has to be proven on a dyno by actual claims. So that those manufacturers with great product wont get overshadowed by these manufacturers lying (cheating strategy) to fool an convince many their products are better. If you know about cars then you should understand the message. JDM forever, 90s pushed boundaries that today cannot be superceeded. Thank you.
Not really a fair race. The Porsche driver with those Aviators turns his car into a jet... You should do another run with him wearing regular/normal sunglasses to see if the Z does any better.
Everyone is so mad at the 400z for some reason . It’s almost like they forget the 350z and 370z weren’t that fast either. Yet both of those cars are considered classics . A 20 year old 350z still collects a premium on the used market.
This 👆
They're mad because they havent driven it and wish they could. Easier to be a negative nancy than a positive pete.
350z don’t get a premium market around me, I see a ton of trash modded ones even in the ghetto
350 was pretty quick for its time I believe. 370 was decent. I don’t expect the 400 to be super quick or anything but it could be a LITTLE faster lol especially if it’s trying to compete with the Supra. But, what I will say is it just might be a tire issue mostly. Everyone complains about how trash they are. Hopefully Nissan starts building them with better tires
@@reviinge cheaper car than the supra. New vs New.
Let's be honest, we all knew the Porsche was going to win even before watching the video.
The power to weight in that Porsche is way better add the PDK and u can see the winner but I'd like to see the Z with actual launch control and better tires
I don’t know why they keep doing videos with standard types knowing enthusiast will take it from the dealership straight to a true store.
The PtW is exactly the same, what are you talking about?
The Z actually has a better power to weight ratio when you measure dyno results in similar conditions and the same dynos. But power to weight isn’t the only thing that matters. It makes sense to compare them, but would it make sense if one car has a 3 speed auto to a 10 speed auto with close ratios and instant shifts? That’s the perspective you should have, that there are many other variables to be considered
@@PapiAndrey yawn 🥱
As an owner of a Porsche 718 GTS and former owner of a 370z: the Porsche 718 is leaps and bounds better in every measurable way.
Same, I drive my 718 base now, but have a 986 S and 350z. Prefer both over my 350z and really only use it for drift days now
There is a stealership asking $105k for a Nissan Z somewhere in the US..
At that point, GTR makes more
sense imo..
GTR’s are getting 140-150 2023 with mark up. So after taxes about 175k
Holy shit
Imagine payin 100k for a Nissan that can’t even beat a old boxster 👁👄👁
Would be cool to see the same race with manual versions of both cars.
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Just to watch the z lose again? lol
I don't think i have seen the Z beat anything
My wallet
10.50s@128 on fbo e85
9.80s@135 on drop in turbos
Smash a ton of cars with basic mods lol
Saw one beat a dude right a bike, but that’s about it 😂
Definitely beat me in running. 😢
We all knew in the back of our mind that when the Z came out it would still not be able to beat a Supra. The Supra is the match for this Porsche
Z is heavier, shifts slower, and has worse tires
seems about right to me
Don’t forget less power.
Man I don’t think I’ve seen the new Z win a race yet😂
Trash ah Nissan
They suck! I had q50 red sport and felt like 300hp but Infiniti claims 400hp and transmission sucks too! Way too much turbo leg. You floor it and nothing happens for 5 seconds. Absolutely horrendous
On any channel.
It won against the Kia Stinger, which isn't impressive...
This has been covered on this channel and every other review, the car is let down by mediocre tires. The Z should be comparable to Supra numbers. The Z makes Dodge Challengers look like they have AWD the way it struggles for traction
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It's more than tires. It's too heavy plus the transmission is mediocre at best.
Nice win on the rolling race for the Z! I didn’t expect that. The launch control and the traction of the Boxster S are known to be amazing, so against the Z with less than ideal tires the result was a not a surprise. Maybe with a top shelf set of tires the Nissan would put up a fight. But from dig, I suspect the Porsche would win again, but not by so much gap.
The Z won in the second roll race because they started in 3rd gear. The 718’s gearing is very long, and at 80 it would’ve been faster to start in 2nd.
If it’s the pdk, boxster by a mile. Those run 11.9 stock
Yeah, this one is not going to be close.
What a load of bs those stock boxsters don't run anywhere near those bs times
Boxster s stock runs 12.3s
Somehow my base boxster did a 12.3 as well. I guess mine was on low fuel, cold air temp, and smaller wheels, lighter unsprung mass
@@lexman8678yes they do 🤣🤣🤣 clearly you don’t follow porsche. They run even faster the more broken in they get. You’ve been living under a rock.
@@throttletribevnlook at car and drivers 2017 boxster s test. Runs 11.9 at 117. Not 12.3 lol
Dont shift the Z manually. Warm up the tires with a burnout before launching it from a dig. The result will be different .
They say there's something about the traction control that won't let you what a bunch of horseshit
This dude knows nothing about launching
@@marvinenglish4547 They run low 12 s with the auto and a proper launch but the surface is properly not very good on this track they are using Warming up the tires and leaving it shift by itself will greatly help
@@willzuehlke37 yeah the Z can’t do a burnout unfortunately. You can get it removed with a tune
2 beautiful machines!
I would love to own either of these machines! Manual though, of course. Great vid. Cheers 🍻
I already knew the Porsche was gonna take this one I definitely wanted to see by how much it would gap.
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You guys shouldn't use the paddles to shift when racing. Most cars are faster and more consistent letting the computer shift for you.
Who do we please, you or the ones that want manual shifting? You guys need to settle this
@@SamCarLegion u very rude with u self
@@leonmarrast1725 please retype your sentence
@@ahmed232323able can’t have both :)
@@leonmarrast1725 Huh? What’s with your gibberish?
please no more excuses for the tyres from the Z, it sucks.
But it's definitely true and it was ripping!!
@@jarvond21 Then they should change the tires, then he no longer has to excuse the Z every time. It is what it is, Nissan gives the car with these tires to the customers and thats it.
This is a press car people I am not allowed to do any changes unless u smart pants have one to lend
@@SamCarLegion but why do you always apologize for it, it´s Nissans fault and not yours.
@@alengreen589 Apologizing? I am telling people the truth, this car has sh** tires. But I can’t change them since it is in the agreement I sign.
You gotta quit using the paddles. You CANNOT do better than auto mode. Put it in manual to hold the gear, then switch it over once you floor it. That Z transmission shifts slower than a manual too, it's crazy.
You need to settle this with everyone else that is asking for it.
@@SamCarLegion Honestly, I've never seen anyone ask for it. If it were me, I'd do my research and see that in 99% of cars you can't do better and stick to that. Give the car the best chance to win is my position. People paddle shifting just do it to feel cool. I use them playing around at times, but if I've got my dragy out trying to get good times, I'm not using them.
@@nathanaelcole8466 yes because you read all the comments on my drags. 🫤
@@SamCarLegion I don't read them all, no. Just haven't ever seen it. What's the reasoning of these people who want them used?
@@nathanaelcole8466 because the power-band is better used in manual mode on a roll.
Sam - Maybe we can do a kickstarter for the Z owner for better tires? I mean - if he blew $50,000 for the car, what's another $1500 for better tires that could save his life. Those bridgestones should be recalled!!!!!!
It’s a press car bud. Can’t modify it
Exactly how are they going to put tires on their flagship car that can't even put the power down properly. Tires will make a huge difference on this car.
@@drmvp21 par for the course for decades. If you were around for the Goodyear Eagle GSC days you know exactly what I mean 😂
That Z is rated 375HP at the wheel I believe.
Usually 360 whp.
and? his numbers are crank on both ends, porsche makes hell of a lot less crank on paper😂the z just has a dogshit transmission
@@cobynewton7713 APR measured the actual power of the 718 S models and its closer to 380hp on premium fuel. at the crank i believe I have a 718 Cayman S and i deffo believe it lol
@@Muleyasama hmm 380 crank maybe cuz if it were 380 wheel the gap would be much greater
@@cobynewton7713 oh yeah deffo at the crank. In ideal conditions the car will do 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. So it’s a monster. I’m getting an APR stage 1 tune soon so should get 430-440hp at the crank.
Lol haven't seen any race where Z won.
The Z won the 50 roll here.
Get glasses. 😆😆
😞 400Z
The Z won the most potential race which you use it daily
@@qatar727 I have the first and the last Z naturally Aspirated high reving 6 cylinders manual transmission. Best daily driven examples of a sports car the new Z not. Especially there drive line low reving 🤮
That’s a good lookin 400z. Would to mind driving one.
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Those 718 Boxters PDKs are no joke from a dig.
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That z is fast on a roll
I wanna see a ISF vs the z or evethe RCF vs the z
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Sam can you do 718 cayman s , 718 cayman gts, 718 Cayman GTS4.0? I wanna see how those 2 turbo porks stack against NA? Please 🙏
Get a Supra out there with the Porsche next Sam!!!
Porsche is just in another level
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Sam, are you allowed to do a brake Stand burnout? Or even a few donuts to warm the z tires up. Results may have been closer
We do warm up runs way before the race
@@SamCarLegion that's the thing though brother, tires will loose heat pretty quickly if your not actually prepped at that moment. I know it's not a prepped drag strip and it's probably customer cars so you can't beat on them to much.. I just feel like the z would perform better if the rubber was melting off lol. Love your videos keep them coming :)
Heyybii nissan is just slower
When are you going to start racing your M4? Can’t wait to see it on the track
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Nothing beats a PDK man.
Pdk got stomped in the 50mph roll race. 😅😅
@@conradsealy9603did we see the same video? Porsche won all the races bro 😂. Z got beat by a 4 cylinder how sad
A Corvette C8 :)
Great video! I see you using the paddles this time! Hahahaa
Why did you shift the Boxster yourself instead of making use of the PDK in Sport Plus? You shifted too early.
Hey cool video but just some feedback. It would be nice to have some timings if you're doing drag races :) Hope we can see that in future
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I still don't get the point of drag races to determine which crosses the line first. Other than views and entertainment. Take out the reaction times and human error, run the cars separately using a timing device. Could provide real world factual data without another driver by using a $150 Dragy.
Would have been a fair race if the Porsche wasn’t shifting at about 5 and a half k
That porsche is so much of a better deal than the 400z, it looks better, it handles better, it launches better, not sure about reliability tho :)
It’s also almost twice the price
Im sure a Nissan at twice the price can put up a better fight
You must be smoking something good to think a more expensive car is a better deal than a cheap car LOL.
@@SamCarLegion it's twice the price but twice as good in every category, looks, performance, handling.
Sometimes it not always about the results, the 718 is a superior car. But man we had a blast ripping some fun cars and that's what its all about. Enjoy the video.
The z cost more then the Boxster at this point lol
@@layne4376 I’m definitely referring to the Us haha.
Sam, i would like to see the boxster race the supra. appears it would be a good race
Losing to a boxster is crazyyyy 😂 is the porche stock?
Yes it's stock. Just lighter and better engineering
@@1laimmiss just lighter and intentionally underrated* fixed that for you
These aren't the slow lil Boxters from back in the day lol. I had a couple quick dig runs with a PDK 718 and I was surprised myself.
@@mzzs9993 faqs.. the boxster was a punchline many years ago but not anymore.
solid showing from the Z honestly. the Boxster has a big advantage with the Mid engine layout for traction.
half the new car price, nothing to complain
Porsche holds its value.
When are we going to see a stock 22 Gr86/BRZ vs stock 2022 wrx?
When u getting the Michelin ps4s for the z
And the front end still haven't excited me yet, its meager
Sam stop running the Z on the garbage rubber…it’s pointless.
Can you lend us one so I can buy tires?
Yes put good tires on them and then running it
Press car my guy, he doesnt have the ability to swap out tires. Its real time commentary on poorly equipped RWD sports car. It played a major roll in holding the car back.
@@jimwallace4164 I hear you, then why bother? Run it against a red sport Q 50 and it will lose badly and the Q 50 is much heavier.
@@SamCarLegion don’t waste your time with it, it’s severely handicapped.
I love the twin turbo they put in the Z and the new styling, but I wish they kept the interior budget down. They don't need to keep it rachet like the previous gen, but an interior that is similar to the veloster N and ditch some of the tech so they can keep the price down
The base model exists for that
When you watch a drug race where Japanese cars are involved please consider this formula: 400 Japanese HP is equal to 200 German
Driver mode needed in the Z
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I hope the new z is still true japanese and not European.
Renault really ruined Nissan
Nissan ruined Nissan before Renault lol
Remember the 510, stanza with the multi link rear, last generation 240 sx with the hicas so many great engineered cars but I agree with you that they self destructed in the 90s
I love both of these cars. I’d be happy with either one. Porsche is a legend, Z is beautiful and modern.
Leave it in auto mode. No paddles.
Rather have a M240i then the Z or that hairdress car 🤣
Boxter owners are always owned 55y 5’5 white dads 🤣
@@C43-c8p That's what people who can't afford Porsches say. lol
Amazing Race!
Porsche 718 Boxster S PDK 2017 do 11,9s @117 mph 1/4 mile time Car & Driver!
O @ 100km/h= 3,6s
You gonna need extra 100 hp over the Porsche's announced output
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Yup!! Nothing beats Porsche PDK and BMW ZF by Riccardo there the Best transmission on the market!! Nissan well its a whale car to heavy!! Is just a custom product for the people to buy and over price Nothing more than that!!
Awesome content!
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There isn't a single video out there showing the new Z winning any race. That's so bad for the Z.
Sam, buy the guy new tires for God sake! 🤣
Not
Allowed it’s a press car
@@SamCarLegion clearly a joke...
@@SamCarLegion Nissan needs new CEO
That z slow from factory
4cylinder Porsche sounds amazing compared to the VR and I drove a infiniti
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Let’s see the Porsche vs Supra
Why don’t you put better tires on the Z?
Nissan Z might not be that fast stock, but wait till a lot of them are fbo and tuned they will be hurting V8 boys feelings. These cars need full downpipes and exhaust just like the Q50/60 as they are really restricted stock.
“0-60 number appeals to smooth brains”
-Moon Tzu
😂
Maybe try warming up the tires like warm it up good until its fully heated and warm, then maybe you can do launch control! There's a reason they gave it launch control! People are hitting 4 flat. Also if its possible to get those michellin pilot sport 4s and see the difference
Don’t underestimate the turbo 718 🙌🏼
Z needs tires / tune... .I think we have all been saying this for ? what ? 6+ months now?
Here's an idea: Go put those crappy bridgestones on the Porsche - then - send the video to Bridgestone. ;-)
Correct. Ive not seen a single tester that hasnt complained about the lack of grip from the tyres on the Z. Everyone complains about the tyres on the Z.
The Porsche would hook still lol. The Pirelli are not much better honestly. The mid engine, better launch control, and better transmission would cover the tires' ineptitude.
And this is why I would rather get a Supra...
Get the Z new/better tires already!!! Lol I'm tired of hearing the excuses for the tires. Z is a good car damn good car!! Not a great one though
Let's see the 718 S vs Supra
The 400z needs better traction and transmission it shifts like the 2014 mustang Gts lol
It's called warm up the tyres before a drag in a rwd 😅
I wouldn’t use the launch control in z.
Is that an aftermarket exhaust on that porsche? If so, they need to put it back to stock, it sounds like trash.
For everyone saying that the z is slow. Modded the car is already running 9s and 10s in the 1/4 mile.
ok?
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That porsche vs a 10 speed mustang would b a good race
350 HP is alot for a 4 cylinder
That's what I was thinking as well
Forced induction, a lot
Of 4 bangers make 350HP now.
@@AllGasNoBreaks416 and more.
A bit bigger four cylinder at 2.5L Subaru has made 315 out of 2.5 for 20 years now (never increased it though). GM makes 325 out of 2.7L. Ford makes 350 out of 2.3L. Mercedes makes 415 out of 2.0 liters! Pretty impressive from Porsche, but not unheard of.
It's really not - my stock engine daily 4cyl has 640hp on pump fuels. Newer engines are very strong.
The problem with the Z's launching is the crappy Bridgestone tires.
Nissan Japan at least fix the front end of the z with a split spoiler. Looks so much better now.
We need nissan z vs kia stenger vs hunday alntra N line
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I use to be a z fan,but watching that z in every race changed my mind.the only car that z beat was the infinity,and that was from a roll.nissan drop the ball on this one if you ask me.400hp is not enough for the weight of that car,plus that z trans draggs.it has the same old transmission from to 2003 350
The Z didn't win that roll, watch the porsche in car footage, he must have been shifting around 5k rpm, dropped 2 gears in 4 seconds
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You cannot believe any races on this channel. The guy literally short shifted on the first race or left off early
You are right they should believe you…a random account that could be a 12 year old
Did the Boxter best it bad enough for the cost difference? Not IMO😂
If you take the entire driving experience in consideration than yes, the Porsche is worth the cost difference.
Now if you consider the mark up for the Z, the Porsche seems like a bargain.
This just a waste of gas for the porsche.
The Cayman 718S is even faster than the Boxster because of the less weight from the convertible machinery.
That Nissan gets uglier every time I look at it, at least the front of it. Stop complaining about the tires and swap on some good ones!
I'd love to see someone just put better tires on this thing lol
Not a fair comparison. The Porsche is a different class. Imagine if you put them on a circuit, the difference would be enormous.
New Z it is slow same as the 2016 q50 vr30. I thought that 9speed transmission was going to take the car to a whole new level like the supra.
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Driver matters!
Porsche always wins. 😁
Like 17 videos with that Z. Is that owner ever gonna buy some tires...?!
The Z has been bitch slapped by so many different cars it's ridiculous. Never have 400 hp been so disappointing. It's NOT the tires Sam!!
It’s definitely the tires, off a roll they aren’t bad. These VR30 are pretty sold in the Q’s. FBO they keep up with my FBO B58 no problem.
Look at the video again. No grip from a dig, but on a roll where traction is not needed, it wins, head to head with mustang Gt and scat pack challengers and does keep pace with the supra. Zs never really been manufactured for 0-60. Have some fun and drift this around the track.
Ok but this "tires" thing has been said in several videos.. can SOMEONE find a pair of ACCEPTABLE tires and let's finally see what's up head to head.. not from a roll.
Only chance new Z winning dig race is to race FWD.....no lie
☝️Cᴏɴɢʀᴀᴛᴜʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴs, ʏᴏᴜ'ᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ sᴇʟᴇᴄᴛᴇᴅ ᴀᴍᴏɴɢ ᴍʏ ᴡɪɴɴᴇʀs ᴛʜɪs ᴡᴇᴇᴋ ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇ ᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴀᴄᴋɴᴏᴡʟᴇᴅɢᴇ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀɪᴢᴇ*.............
Another day another L for the Z 🤣
Porsche normally under rate their horsepower numbers and Nissan always over rate their horsepowe the Z probably only making 360 to 380hp max
Facts porsche (like all german cars) underrate their power figures on paper to make their cars appear so much better than other cars that make the actual claim power figures or in some cases make less because of types of gas put in them. Especially nissans make less power than advertised without premium fuel.
Porsche make 50hp more than claim in almost all models. Watch Carwow latest review of german top sedans where bmw,benz,porsche, audi competed the only car made its claim figures was the audi, with porsche panamera turbo s hybrid advertised as 700hp making 750hp 50hp more. There is also a dyno where the latest 911 gt2 rs rated at 700hp on paper in actual dyno test made 770hp crank that is 70hp more than porsche claims. Also those nurburgring times set were on race tyres not production tyres. Porsche been lying an cheating for years. Everyone knows there a protected brand. A german strategy underrate their power figures to appear more capable than the others. There should be a rule in the automotive world where if a manufacturer makes a certain it has to be proven on a dyno by actual claims. So that those manufacturers with great product wont get overshadowed by these manufacturers lying (cheating strategy) to fool an convince many their products are better.
If you know about cars then you should understand the message.
JDM forever, 90s pushed boundaries that today cannot be superceeded. Thank you.
😂😂Here we go again with the tires🛞🛞🛞🛞
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Not really a fair race. The Porsche driver with those Aviators turns his car into a jet... You should do another run with him wearing regular/normal sunglasses to see if the Z does any better.