There's an article that came out today that there was an internal investigation and Tony's behavior did not meet editorial standards. But he keeps his job
That Israel-Palestine section does read like it would fit in the backpack of an extremist. Dude goes to Israel for 10 days, makes up a derogatory comment about Israel's holocaust memorial, and comes back thinking that he has all the answers. Sorry, I'm not one of those who treats the Palestinians like children. It's not a black and white issue.
Ta Nahesi handled that cbs interview beautifully. Tony was the one who came out looking bad (ie racist) in my opinion. So I’m glad it went that way. It was just a great illustration of our media’s bias. Ta Nahesi’s responses couldn’t be taken down logically at all.
Yeah, people see that, but there was no logic to his response and he face planted. This whole response to the interview has been the left seeing what it wants to see in an obviously radicalized individual. The same way people want figures on the right pressed for real answers, that was done. Not only did that happen, but his non-answers like "Israel exists," or "there's no shortage of that perspective," were non-answers.
Agree, it really did help Ta-Nehisi. He remained pretty calm while Tony looked bad attacking him.He was obviously biased and pretty angry! He proved the point that Israel has been aggressive against the Palestinians and other none Israelis for years and believe they are justified.
I don’t know if he looked racist; he seemed like he hasn’t learned anything about Israel and Palestine from non-Israel-biased sources-that’s possibly racist, by neglect. I surmise without reading the book also that he didn’t read it very carefully at all. Coates is a subtle writer and it would be obvious to anyone reading his writing that he has researched the subject carefully and in that sense perhaps Tony is also racist by lack of attentiveness but maybe he is not a great reader
"Many of us like to ask ourselves, "What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid?What would I do if my country was committing genocide?" The answer is, you're doing it. Right now." - USAF Senior Airman Aaron Bushnell That quote was all i thought about watching tony's appalling behavior twords Mr Coates.
Afrcians were sold into slavery in their millions by Africans there were 1000s of black slave owners in America, the first legal slave owner in America was a black man. No one in America today is a slave, but there are still hundreds of thousands of slaves in a Afrcia.
Ta Nehisi is absolutely right, especially on the last point. When you understand the context, it soon becomes apparent that there are NO good arguments for Israel. I've followed this conflict for 45 years. I have yet to hear an argument for Israel that stands up under the least bit of scrutiny.
and the way they are acting now with absolute impunity and what they are doing to civilians. It's not a war. It's just a war on civilians, journalists, hospitals etc
Here's one: Multiple wars of aggression and intifadas have been fought against Israel that it did not start, but ended. Wars have consequences. And if Israel were any other country, it would be much bigger. There would have been no ceded the Sinai peninsula, Gaza, or the West Bank. They were taken in war and there would be less trouble if they were integrated into Israel. Here's another: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world Muslim countries saw the Nazi's work and thought: Good idea, ethnically cleansing Jews into exile in Israel. Now that Israel is the most successful Arab country (2 million Arabs live as full citizen of Israel, holding positions at every level) by any metric, they still can't be happy. I can do this all do with the Pro-Pally side. Thing is, they all seem to disappear with facts.
@@VedickDragon No one around him willing to say: This is a stupid argument.
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The most beautiful part about that interview was when Ta-Nehisi answered Tony's racist interrogation about apartheid and Ta-Nehisi called him out without having to put it on Tony. I'm paraphrasing, but he said "listen, either Apartheid is wrong or it isn't...." what I took from that was Ta-Nehisi saying between the lines "idk, call me crazy, but being black, I know what racist segregation looks like, and regardless of what Palestinians did or didn't do, this is a violently racist system."
How was the interview racist? Because Coates oversimplified a complex situation and tried to cast it off in the context of American history? His one sided approach and total ignorance of context and circumstance is laughable and that people look to him for guidance or take him seriously is ridiculous.
@@UkraineTrain13again we hear the Israeli perspective nonstop. All his point was is that Israel operates on an ethnic apartheid system. And he got push back on that fact. Most countries in the world legit acknowledge that it's an apartheid system.
It's not a complex situation. The West Bank is divided. 1 race has full access to roads and services. The other race has limited access, is banned from using certain roads, and needs to pass through checkpoints. You can call this apartheid, Jim Crow, racial segregation, or ethno-supremacism, but this is not the 1st time one race has oppressed another. And the oppressor race always makes the same excuses and obfuscations.
Murdering a 1000 Jews in their home's men women and children kinda gets this response. the Palestinians had opportunity to have state 3 times they refused. and being black means you know segregation and slavery just the same as a white person as white people have been slaves in their millions. your not a special victim.
@@dharmabum1925 it literally has nothing to do with race. The question is, why is the West Bank the way it is? When it was conquered from Jordan in the six day war (before which, it had been ethnically cleansed of its Jews), Israel was faced with a hostile population that was unwilling to recognize its existence and resorted to terrorism throughout the 1960s and 1970s. Mind you, this is before the PLO was even the legitimate representative of the Palestinians. When the first and second intifadas happened, which killed thousands of Israelis, it became apparent that in order to address the situation security, measures had to be taken. The measures taken in 2002 worked and ended the intifada. Attempts to integrate and work with the Palestinians have been abject failures. When Israel withdrew from Gaza, there was no blockade or restriction until Hamas took over and started firing rockets and kidnapping Israelis. If Israel withdrew from the West Bank, why wouldn’t it be the same as Gaza in 2005 or south Lebanon in 2000?
If that interview made you gasp, there’s about 4 million hours of online footage of what Israel has been doing to Palestine and Lebanon that will make you faint
If we took your name out? I mean, that is why he is there. So insulting. But yeah, masterclass in being a human listening to Te-Nahisi Coates always. His clarity just hits you completely. We need his voice so much.
@@af2585 please tell me your smart enough to understand that an opinion can be wrong. The word your looking for a "Preference" you prefer to support terrorism
Mr. Coates is one of the most gifted authors in the explication of social issues in a manner that is fair and impartial. The reason he has these responoses thatt sound like amzingly well thought out PR responses is the gulf between intellects, further added on by the tone and content. Intelligence is not a factor in human worth or goodness, just putting in my ethics piece since bioinformatics is my major now and this is a crucial point but it's truly fascinating seeing the gulf of perceptual intake through broca's complex and back out in Ta-Nehisi vs Tony. Mind youin literary analysis I'd be right there with Tony out classed and out matched. Which is why I would've been respectfully asking questions that sound sane. The simple reason Coates sounds like an entire pr firm is the output is the same in terms of neuronal interconnect. The absolute hubris of Tony to go to this and think it would look anything else. Fun fact the father of calculus, Libeniz, was able to perceive calcus and minute rate changes just before he knew numbers, there a handful of people in history and alive that I have the great fortune of knowing. It's a humblign experience in a good way though seeing a six year old child sketching out Bernoulli's theorems not in numbers but in landscape, as he tries to fine tune flying a kite. He's perceiving the changes in nature in such great depth and perception, that I can see in this what the kid thinks is just him getting jitters out, due to not knowing even numbers or letters to a masterful degree yet, and thinks I am the smart one, meanwhile slowly forms the base of the integral graph on the cover of every fluid dynamics textbook. Also to note the kite is actually flying with the accuracy and added efficiency the kid is going for. This child thinks what essentially is the task of multiple engineers in a air tunnel is also possible outside, free handed, since it works. I wrote all that out to say that none of that would be possible if I had written off Coates for his position on Israel-Palestine since I was with Palestinians day I was born, due to parents being in UK and high enough up the socioeconomic ladder to understand the evils of the Thatcher situation. The unique characteristic that makes humans is our ability to adapt, learn and grow, but to quantify these one must understand fully agency and ability. A candle over burnt can no longer illuminate and a candle burning too hard in fine particle regardless of material will combust spontaneously yielding devastation. I need Tony to explain his strategy here, All the references to every single thing he thinks Coates will be hurt by is being utlized to attempt to do so, and I know these two aren't in a relationship like that so like what on Earth was the strategy? Guessing none, since complacency in other media circuits and opnions led him to think all those points were rock solid.
@@af2585 of course your allowed your opinions. However before adopting one that advocates for the destruction of the Jewish State and would lead to a second Holocaust for the Jews, perhaps you should read Middle East experts instead. Mr Coates spent 10 days in the region and now thinks he is an expert. Only someone with very low IQ or someone predisposed to hatred of the juice would think that he is a credible source on this subject.
I saw another interview and idk if he enjoyed it so much but he seemed glad to express the plight of Palestinians. The ironic thing is because of Tony's overt r@clsm Ta-Nehisi got to speak MORE about Palestinians and their struggles instead of just doing one or two interviews.
Listen super close to how his voices starts cracking and fading as he answered the first question after the guys assault. Coates was physically uncomfortable. He almost lost his breath and was struggling to breathe fully. It was a beautiful response and such a powerful example of maturity…but he did NOT enjoy that. Look at his physical reaction to it. I’ve been there before as a man. We show strength even when we feel weak and harmed. I’m praying for him. In that moment he wasn’t okay.
If Mr. Coates was an Arab or a Muslim, that line of questioning would not have caused a single person to bat an eye. Thank you so so much, Mr. Coates, for using your well earned seat at the table to advocate for this silenced and maligned community. May God give us all the opportunities and towfeeq to speak up on behalf of our brothers and sisters that are purposely kept out of the spaces we are invited to so steps can be taken to remove their hardships and oppression.
I think it's important he's speaking up about this cause often people wield the fact that you are personally invested in something to say, "You have an agenda, I don't have to listen to you. You only see your side of the story." Of course on any issue, usually people personally invested will be the actual voices on the issue so that's not fair to shut them out. So it's always great when an outsider who's not personally invested (Or in this case as invested as any other American is.) to speak up because that petty defense of they are too bias doesn't work on them so well. You look bad like this interviewer did.
@@jmhorange exactly! Very well put. This is incredibly brave of Mr. Coates who is essentially signing up to potentially burn his hard earned platform and acclaim to the ground to do what is right but also super difficult right now in this place and time.
wtf? He totally overlooks the fact that the biggest oppressors of Palestinians and the main roadblock to peace aren’t the Israelis-it’s Hamas. "The Israelis are known to love life. We, on the other hand, sacrifice ourselves. We consider our dead to be martyrs. The thing any Palestinian desires the most is to be martyred for the sake of Allah, defending his land." - senior Hamas official Ali Baraka (Oct 8, 2023) Hamas fire's rockets from schools and hospitals, hoping Israel retaliates and kills civilians. This isn’t accidental; it’s a deliberate strategy where Hamas uses the graphic images of the broken bodies of their own people to hijack emotions and exploit global outrage. Since seizing power in Gaza in 2006 through violence, Hamas has blocked elections and maintained control by force. Even worse, they indoctrinate children into martyrdom, instilling hatred and a death cult mentality, ensuring the next generation is conscripted into their holy war. x.com/NateHindenburg/status/1728480677366997296 x.com/VerminusM/status/1793449993732264018 Hamas has been sabotaging peace efforts for years. After the Oslo Accords in the 1990s, which were intended to establish a path to peace-including a halt on settlement expansion-Hamas repeatedly undermined the process with violent attacks. Then, during the Camp David Summit in 2000, Israel offered Arafat 91% of the West Bank and all of Gaza, but Hamas responded by turning buses and cafes into blood-soaked killing grounds. Their violence didn’t just derail peace; it made it nearly impossible for Arafat to negotiate. Fast forward to October 7, 2023-Hamas launched another brutal attack, this time aiming to disrupt the progress of the Abraham Accords, signed in 2020, where countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco were moving towards recognizing Israel. Why? Because Hamas opposes any two-state solution or recognition of Israel's right to exist. They’re dedicated to eradicating Israel and establishing an Islamic state "from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea," across all of historical Palestine. Don’t take my word for it-read their 1988 founding charter en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter. Gaza’s population is 2.1 million; 40,000 (2% of pop) have died so far, with 15,000 (38%) being militants. This is a marginally better ratio than the U.S. military's record in Iraq and Afghanistan, where only 20-35% of 200,000-400,000 deaths in Iraq and 240,000 in Afghanistan were militants. Yet no one accuses the U.S. of genocide.
Just today I thought I wish Trevor had Ta Nehisi Coates on his show to talk about his latest book and then I found this video! I can't wait to hear the entire episode. Thank you!
@@timothywatters4774 So because she has to work with someone that comes across as racist, she shouldn't say anything at all? That makes absolutely no sense. And the same thing goes for Nate Burleson, who just sat there the whole time with a strained look on his face.
I hope Ta-Nehisi reads the comment section of that CBS interview. Everyone reacted like Trevor did. It was a shameful moment for CBS, but you sir handled it with the class and grace Tony owed you!
I'm so sick of watching mainstream news and being told up is down and down is up when it comes to this issue. It's so exhausting to be constantly gaslighted by your own government and media when 90% of the world sees what's happening.
Upon this accurate realization, a Bigger question begs to be asked: Why does one remain in a Nation that is so utterly evil? After 400+ years of an uninterrupted Parade of Horrors - be it the indigenous, the African slaves, the apartheid, the endless wars, the undercover atrocities, etc. - any rational person would have lost hope long ago.
@@shotelco I don't disagree and have lived in other countries before. For me, right now, it makes more sense for my family to live here in the US. But, for everyday Americans who have been burned by the system, who can't afford the pressure of corporate America; I don't understand why they haven't left because I know most people who struggle in the US would do much better in Latin America, Asia, or Eastern Europe.
The fact that Doukapil unironically asked Ta Nehisi if he cared about murdered children is insane! It proves that people in the media just *don't even see* Palestinians.
But he doesn't Ta Nehisi Coates does not care about dead jews, or dead white kids, he is a marxist black supremacist like his father, they are both black Nazis.
he specifically asked him if he cared about murdered Israeli children, as he sorta kinda never mentions them one single time in his entire book. Like literally not even a passing mention. It is obvious he cares about Palestinians, so asking him that question would be kind of pointless. A person can be sad for both Palestinian and Israeli children.
Hopefully this will turn into more book sales. It is beautifully written and penetratingly resonant with this moment in time. Keep shining your light, Professor!
Ta Nehesi my fellow Baltimore . I live in Israel and am part of a large group of people who agree with you and who are demonstrating against our government and horrified with this war and simultaneously mourning our loved ones we lost on October 7th and praying for the hostages. So many peace activists were killed on October 7th and their families vowed to continue their work. I do not know why we can not talk about the Palesti Ian plight without being accused of things but it is time to change that. There are those of us in Israel who are willing to hear your words. Shalom and Peace for our region. Sorry Trevor,you rock it too
@@eudicebenor4537 Baltimore was always a place where Blacks and Jews had an acrimonious relationship. No wonder Mr Coates has such a negative view of the Jewish State.
He handled that interview as well as you could under the circumstances. Given where it was and what those CBS interviews normally are, to be just kind of blindsided in general but in that specific way, you could see him not fully process for a bit what was actually said to him. Once you see it click for him, he handled it far more gracefully than anyone would expect to that sort of attack.
How dare someone ask him hard questions instead of telling him how great he is. He wrote a one sided anti Israel diatribe that ignores the Arabs’ religiously driven desire to wipe Israel out since May 14, 1948 and just blames the Jews for not being nicer to those who wish to destroy them.
Watch Aljazeera Documentary that just dropped 1. Gaza(2500 idf soldiers videos on their genocide live streamed) 2. Failing Gaza (western media cnn and bbc and their role in genocide) 3. Starving Gaza ( how they blocked food to kill anyone who survived the bombs) I’m still shaking at how much America funds this barbarism and how people are either silent (democrats) or vile (republicans)
It’s barbaric how Western governments abdicated responsibility for their choices in this war. We need better. Isreal, Palestine, and Lebanon deserve better
You’d think that would they would talk about how and why Israel is responding as it did. Listening to Hamas and their desire to kill every Jew they can, they still believe that the Palestinians bear no responsibility for their situation. That their decision to make war on the Jews at every step is justified. What did Hamas expect to happen when it killed 1200 people and declared war on Israel? When they said their goal is to do 10/7 again and again?
There is intelligence, there is serenity and there is wisdom and then there is all three combined in the right balanced way with so much confidence. The saying "ignorance is a bliss" has so many layers and categories. Hearing Tana'Hessi here is proof to me that he knew what he was doing in that interview and that he was not phased one bit by all of the host's attempt. It is also proof that the guy has a piercing eye for what surounds him and he is always driving but never let himself be driven
On the one hand, yes, Tony was rude, the question was aggressive and insulting, on the other he gave Coates an opportunity to kick his ass. Which Coates did. And made me buy his book!!
Trevor's been on MSM so many times this year and nothing but silence on Gaza. During this time South Africa had already started proceeding on genocide case against Israel, President and Foreign Minister said Palestine suffering through worst apartheid than South Africa, regular demonstrations in streets all over world... So good to see that he finally came around. Never too late to support justice.
Maybe because Palestine isn’t the victims that people paint them out to be. Yes, the West Bank is racist and sad, but that still doesn’t justify allowing terrorist to willfully run your country and start a war that you’re ill prepared for. I have still yet to see an anti Hamas protest, from these so called Palestine “supporters”. There is no right or wrong, there is no good or bad, there is only what you believe. Because, most of these Palestinian (Muslims in general) don’t share your beliefs or values. Is their beliefs wrong? Does your beliefs make you right? It’s no different than a pro- choice person, complaining about kids dying; or a pro life person, standing by and watching this happen. There is no innate right or wrong. There’s only your belief.
@@jamarplunkett3283 you dont see anti-hamas protest just like you dont see anti black liberation protest. there is nothing to protest against people fighting for their rights
@@haniffhaniff5764 so Hamas and Palestine is one entity now? And I guess that the October 7 attack was them fighting for their rights. If Hamas is fighting for Palestine rights, then I guess it’s fair to say that Palestine as a whole should bear the burden of the October 7 invasion into Israel. And their fore, can’t cry for fighting a hot war that they started. I remember people saying that Hamas is not Palestine; but now they are, ok. And please don’t compare black liberation to terrorist’s. You didn’t see black people gain their independence during Jim Crow by taking hundreds of hostages and starting a hot war with a superior force. Hamas/Palestine aren’t the victims that you make them out to be.
I know Coates says he doesn't care about the awards - but I care about his awards. I care that a Black man with awards is treated like a terrorist by another bland average guy who did nothing but show up to get a major platform. No awards, a career spent mostly behind desks, Tony is nothing more than a spokesmodel - and it really showed in that "interview." If it had been me, I would have said, "Get me a real journalist to ask questions. Not some head of hair."
The absolute gall of Tony to sit there and read off the same bland talking points we've heard a billion times to someone who is literally a generational talent. And feel he had the RIGHT to take away his accomplishments? Fucking despicable
CBS News had to address it, and said it was beneath their standards. Then Jan Crawford stepped into it by defending Dokoupil. Saying Dokoupil saved the network from allowing Coates to be one-sided on the issue. BONKERS.Genuinely bonkers.
I’m happy that he talked about Gail and the notes because say what you want, when Gail comes to interview you can tell she read the book and has notes. She tried to ask a question and Tony shooshed her! Go rewatch the interview.
He wanted to hurt, but he inadvertently became Ta-Nehisi Coates' best publicist. So many people who didn't before knows him know and will pickup this book and the rest of his work. It's like MSNBC trying to shut down Mehdi Hassan but letting him go. Now he is free of all internal pressure and will soon have a similar platform as the entire MSNBC, at least online.
I was in the Palestinians territories for 3 weeks. Unbelievable nightmare, the people are so de-humanized; living basically in cages. They suffer enormously while the Israelis do not. Coates is telling the truth, he is the honorable one here.
@@svenlarsson3260the only person I met with an inkling of common sense. Yes, what’s happening to Palestine is sad, but they made this mess themselves. They allowed terrorist to prosper in their communities and live among them. To just dismantle any of their argument, just ask this; What should have Israel done after the October invasion?
This isn’t about Mr. Coates view of the Palestinians. It’s about how Black Americans are treated in America. After six decades of Civil Rights Fights, the clear reality is that we are not free to be who we are as a person, or to bring something new to the table for others to see. We are to conform. And in any walk of life, if we don’t, we are going to get cut down. No matter the “awards, the accolades, or the publisher.”😑
We are so so so proud of you Ta Nehisi for speaking up! Thank you Trevor for a very elegant conversation and helping bring more light in a very long historical darkness that did not start in October 7, 2023 but in 1947/48.
Listened to the CBS interview and found myself not upset with the reporter because of Ta-Nehisi Coates' handling of his question; made me realize that maybe some do need to be able to ask such questions even if the answer then, with the help of Coates, is obvious. Mr. Coates also reminded people of President Carter's book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" published in 2006, which maybe the reporter took note of and can learn from, as well? Even if some questions/assertions truly are stupid, we've all got to learn...
She knew the subject matter being discussed. The issue was protecting her job. If she had dared interrupt the public humiliation of Coates, at the hands of her Jewish (he neglected to confess that part) cohort, she’d be looking for a new job right now.
I can't wait until Trevor uploads this whole interview. Very interested to hear his views on apartheid in Palestine since he survived apartheid in South Africa.
that is not what he said though. That is what Trevor seems to have heard, but what he said was if you removed the prestigious awards, the instantly recognized and respected name, then examine the content of the work (in its full context), you could find it to be, in his opinion at least, very extreme in the views it expresses. Removing the author's name isn't removing context. Removing Paragraphs or talking points from the work itself would be removing context. People can say he was rude or innapropriate, but Trevor just flat out didn't understand what he said on that question. The point is people are prejudiced when they see someone they like and respect said something, and they are then less likely to judge it critically.
@@NathanChesnaky you have mistaken that to which I referred. It is exactly word-for-word what Ta-Nehisi Coates said to Trevor at the end of the clip and it is fundamentally disappointing.
That interview has had my attention since it happened. Seeing Tony crash out like that was quite a sight. Coates has spoken eloquently and maintained his composure from then to now.
unless Coates states in the book that Israel doesn't have a right to exist, Tony was wrong... b/c that's how he came at Coates... as if Coates said Israel should not exist... from Coates it seems he's just giving the perspective of the everyday Palestinians... not Hamas
Right, Many Israelis and Jews in various countries often accuse anyone who cares about the Palestinian ppl, anti Israel or against Israel's right to exist! How hypocritical to believe you have the right to exist but others such as the Palestinians do not have the right to exist in their own State.
Trevor only just got his gig. He is also a foreigner. He got a big break in America. He cannot just throw it in the bin on the Israel Palestine issue. Candice Owens tried it. It did not go well. Black folk walk a very tight line in the halls of power. Power being government, banks and media. This domain is not owned by black folks. Some black folks might get big salaries but they are on a very tight leash. They need to keep their coin.
There will be no repercussions. He was following his superiors’ instructions. I knew Ta-Nehises was not unprepared for this type of confrontation. What is interesting is he did not take a side. He objectively reported what he saw and experienced. Never said or wrote anything about either nation’s right to exist. I have never seen this type of behavior during journalistic interviews during any other wars. Not even during the era of apartheid in South Africa. Tony’s behavior during the interview has led to previously uninvolved people to take another look at what is going on. So much happening around the world at this time.
I agree with Ta Nahesi, I cant understand why he's not offended to basically been called an exstremist. It made me so angry. That's such a revealing part of Tony's worldview/position/narrow mindness. My only explanation is because of Ta Nahesi's background/anchestry he just doesn't get fazed anymore? Or if its more about his personality?
The way to support and protest the egregious behavior towards those who speak up for the Palestinian people is to buy the book and educate yourselves on the continued apartheid that is happening.
VOTING Jill Stein & Butch Ware 2024! Only candidates not controlled by AIPAC / corporations. Amazing to see Jewish and Muslim come together working for peace and justice for all and not just their own tribal interests
I read a comment describing the interview as 'shameful,' but I’m not sure I agree. I believe we need more open discourse on this subject-good, bad, and indifferent-to uncover a grain of truth amid the chaos of this moment. From my perspective, there are untruths circulating in the media, and not all perspectives are being considered. Ta-Nehisi Coates raised this very point, emphasizing the need for broader viewpoints, which we desperately need. Hearing all sides might be the only way to navigate this moment in history. Plus, I think Ta-Nehisi is a skilled debater who can steer the conversation effectively while defending his stance. Maybe that’s a takeaway here-articulating our arguments well can help anyone engage in complex discussions with the kind of finesse Ta-Nehisi used to dismantle Tony’s approach. The real drama lies in the desire to get caught up in side conversations. The key (from where I stand), however, is understanding how to engage in difficult discussions to make room for honesty.
What is the palestinian cause? Because some of them want to live peacefully, but around half of them believe in Jihad and want to live under sharia law
You need to check out Trevor's monologue he did on his show he did from his apartment about the Israeli/ Palestine situation this was about 3/4 yrs ago Trevor did a deep dive into the subject very good
I can’t wait to listen to the full podcast. I can already tell. I’m probably gonna have to listen to it twice. In fact when the deed was being done and he was being disrespected, I said to myself, I can’t wait to some of my favorite black interviewers get a hold of Coates to discuss this. We need the replay-by-play, and he’s absolutely correct: He handled himself. I hadn’t even considered how he also did a disservice to the other journalist in the room. 🧐🤔💯
And still I haven't heard of any repercussions for Tony after all the backlash. This only proves Te-Nahisi's point.
He shouldn't be reprimanded for speaking his honest opinions even if you disagree with them. That's not a crime. He said it without malice.
@@charlesahweyevu😂😂😂😂
Sarcasm rigth?
There shouldn't be any. That's part of free speech.
Tony did not stop Ta-Nehisi from speaking but instead heard him out completely.
@@charlesahweyevuopinions? Do you know what a journalist is?
There's an article that came out today that there was an internal investigation and Tony's behavior did not meet editorial standards. But he keeps his job
Bought the book because of that interview.
Same
True. That interview and that question is the main reason why the book even came onto my radar.
Me too!
That Israel-Palestine section does read like it would fit in the backpack of an extremist. Dude goes to Israel for 10 days, makes up a derogatory comment about Israel's holocaust memorial, and comes back thinking that he has all the answers. Sorry, I'm not one of those who treats the Palestinians like children. It's not a black and white issue.
@@aceboogisback9946 get you lying asss out of here
Ta Nahesi handled that cbs interview beautifully. Tony was the one who came out looking bad (ie racist) in my opinion. So I’m glad it went that way. It was just a great illustration of our media’s bias. Ta Nahesi’s responses couldn’t be taken down logically at all.
Yeah, people see that, but there was no logic to his response and he face planted. This whole response to the interview has been the left seeing what it wants to see in an obviously radicalized individual. The same way people want figures on the right pressed for real answers, that was done. Not only did that happen, but his non-answers like "Israel exists," or "there's no shortage of that perspective," were non-answers.
Agree, it really did help Ta-Nehisi. He remained pretty calm while Tony looked bad attacking him.He was obviously biased and pretty angry! He proved the point that Israel has been aggressive against the Palestinians and other none Israelis for years and believe they are justified.
....non-Israelis...
I don’t know if he looked racist; he seemed like he hasn’t learned anything about Israel and Palestine from non-Israel-biased sources-that’s possibly racist, by neglect. I surmise without reading the book also that he didn’t read it very carefully at all. Coates is a subtle writer and it would be obvious to anyone reading his writing that he has researched the subject carefully and in that sense perhaps Tony is also racist by lack of attentiveness but maybe he is not a great reader
@@thaliahall4599 So, genocide is justified when it's against Jews.
"Many of us like to ask ourselves, "What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid?What would I do if my country was committing genocide?"
The answer is, you're doing it. Right now."
- USAF Senior Airman
Aaron Bushnell
That quote was all i thought about watching tony's appalling behavior twords Mr Coates.
Afrcians were sold into slavery in their millions by Africans there were 1000s of black slave owners in America, the first legal slave owner in America was a black man. No one in America today is a slave, but there are still hundreds of thousands of slaves in a Afrcia.
Well Said
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Damn 😮
RIP Aaron Bushnell.
Ta Nehisi is absolutely right, especially on the last point. When you understand the context, it soon becomes apparent that there are NO good arguments for Israel. I've followed this conflict for 45 years. I have yet to hear an argument for Israel that stands up under the least bit of scrutiny.
and the way they are acting now with absolute impunity and what they are doing to civilians. It's not a war. It's just a war on civilians, journalists, hospitals etc
Here's one: Multiple wars of aggression and intifadas have been fought against Israel that it did not start, but ended. Wars have consequences. And if Israel were any other country, it would be much bigger. There would have been no ceded the Sinai peninsula, Gaza, or the West Bank. They were taken in war and there would be less trouble if they were integrated into Israel.
Here's another: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world
Muslim countries saw the Nazi's work and thought: Good idea, ethnically cleansing Jews into exile in Israel. Now that Israel is the most successful Arab country (2 million Arabs live as full citizen of Israel, holding positions at every level) by any metric, they still can't be happy.
I can do this all do with the Pro-Pally side. Thing is, they all seem to disappear with facts.
@@af2585 Yup. Just creating more and more enemies for themselves.
Such a dumb argument by Coates.
@@VedickDragon No one around him willing to say: This is a stupid argument.
The most beautiful part about that interview was when Ta-Nehisi answered Tony's racist interrogation about apartheid and Ta-Nehisi called him out without having to put it on Tony. I'm paraphrasing, but he said "listen, either Apartheid is wrong or it isn't...." what I took from that was Ta-Nehisi saying between the lines "idk, call me crazy, but being black, I know what racist segregation looks like, and regardless of what Palestinians did or didn't do, this is a violently racist system."
How was the interview racist? Because Coates oversimplified a complex situation and tried to cast it off in the context of American history? His one sided approach and total ignorance of context and circumstance is laughable and that people look to him for guidance or take him seriously is ridiculous.
@@UkraineTrain13again we hear the Israeli perspective nonstop. All his point was is that Israel operates on an ethnic apartheid system. And he got push back on that fact. Most countries in the world legit acknowledge that it's an apartheid system.
It's not a complex situation. The West Bank is divided. 1 race has full access to roads and services. The other race has limited access, is banned from using certain roads, and needs to pass through checkpoints. You can call this apartheid, Jim Crow, racial segregation, or ethno-supremacism, but this is not the 1st time one race has oppressed another. And the oppressor race always makes the same excuses and obfuscations.
Murdering a 1000 Jews in their home's men women and children kinda gets this response. the Palestinians had opportunity to have state 3 times they refused. and being black means you know segregation and slavery just the same as a white person as white people have been slaves in their millions. your not a special victim.
@@dharmabum1925 it literally has nothing to do with race. The question is, why is the West Bank the way it is? When it was conquered from Jordan in the six day war (before which, it had been ethnically cleansed of its Jews), Israel was faced with a hostile population that was unwilling to recognize its existence and resorted to terrorism throughout the 1960s and 1970s. Mind you, this is before the PLO was even the legitimate representative of the Palestinians. When the first and second intifadas happened, which killed thousands of Israelis, it became apparent that in order to address the situation security, measures had to be taken. The measures taken in 2002 worked and ended the intifada. Attempts to integrate and work with the Palestinians have been abject failures. When Israel withdrew from Gaza, there was no blockade or restriction until Hamas took over and started firing rockets and kidnapping Israelis. If Israel withdrew from the West Bank, why wouldn’t it be the same as Gaza in 2005 or south Lebanon in 2000?
I gasped when I watched it the first time. I had to show it to my husband because I couldn't believe it.
Tony was one of my favorite anchors until I saw that.
Zionists have no idea how warped their ideas are. It should be shocking that they say stuff like this, but it isn't.
If that interview made you gasp, there’s about 4 million hours of online footage of what Israel has been doing to Palestine and Lebanon that will make you faint
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@@samuelshoemaker50 Equal number of hours of what genocidal Arab muslims do to each other, and to jews.
If we took your name out? I mean, that is why he is there. So insulting. But yeah, masterclass in being a human listening to Te-Nahisi Coates always. His clarity just hits you completely. We need his voice so much.
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@@astonwinter no. I am allowed my own opinions.
@@af2585 please tell me your smart enough to understand that an opinion can be wrong. The word your looking for a "Preference" you prefer to support terrorism
Mr. Coates is one of the most gifted authors in the explication of social issues in a manner that is fair and impartial. The reason he has these responoses thatt sound like amzingly well thought out PR responses is the gulf between intellects, further added on by the tone and content. Intelligence is not a factor in human worth or goodness, just putting in my ethics piece since bioinformatics is my major now and this is a crucial point but it's truly fascinating seeing the gulf of perceptual intake through broca's complex and back out in Ta-Nehisi vs Tony. Mind youin literary analysis I'd be right there with Tony out classed and out matched. Which is why I would've been respectfully asking questions that sound sane. The simple reason Coates sounds like an entire pr firm is the output is the same in terms of neuronal interconnect. The absolute hubris of Tony to go to this and think it would look anything else. Fun fact the father of calculus, Libeniz, was able to perceive calcus and minute rate changes just before he knew numbers, there a handful of people in history and alive that I have the great fortune of knowing. It's a humblign experience in a good way though seeing a six year old child sketching out Bernoulli's theorems not in numbers but in landscape, as he tries to fine tune flying a kite. He's perceiving the changes in nature in such great depth and perception, that I can see in this what the kid thinks is just him getting jitters out, due to not knowing even numbers or letters to a masterful degree yet, and thinks I am the smart one, meanwhile slowly forms the base of the integral graph on the cover of every fluid dynamics textbook. Also to note the kite is actually flying with the accuracy and added efficiency the kid is going for. This child thinks what essentially is the task of multiple engineers in a air tunnel is also possible outside, free handed, since it works. I wrote all that out to say that none of that would be possible if I had written off Coates for his position on Israel-Palestine since I was with Palestinians day I was born, due to parents being in UK and high enough up the socioeconomic ladder to understand the evils of the Thatcher situation. The unique characteristic that makes humans is our ability to adapt, learn and grow, but to quantify these one must understand fully agency and ability. A candle over burnt can no longer illuminate and a candle burning too hard in fine particle regardless of material will combust spontaneously yielding devastation.
I need Tony to explain his strategy here, All the references to every single thing he thinks Coates will be hurt by is being utlized to attempt to do so, and I know these two aren't in a relationship like that so like what on Earth was the strategy? Guessing none, since complacency in other media circuits and opnions led him to think all those points were rock solid.
@@af2585 of course your allowed your opinions. However before adopting one that advocates for the destruction of the Jewish State and would lead to a second Holocaust for the Jews, perhaps you should read Middle East experts instead. Mr Coates spent 10 days in the region and now thinks he is an expert. Only someone with very low IQ or someone predisposed to hatred of the juice would think that he is a credible source on this subject.
He is just a polite and very educated individual with a lot of self respect that's why he is not bothered.
@@Jamjem-react I aspire to be like that :(….!
He isn't very educated.
I’m buying that book because of the interview. Anything that makes mainstream journalists behave suspiciously is worth reading.
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Do we really need to watch more pathetic Israeli attempts at justifying their atrocities. Daniella Weiss summarized Israel’s ambitions quite clearly.
@@astonwinterno. Keep your Zionist propaganda to yourself.
That is a good point.
Ta-Nehisi Coates is a man I have been in awe of for a long time
His sober insight is a rock I can stand
So I can help do this difficult work
You said that so well! Sheesh!
You're in awe of his grifting ?
He is a lowlife race grifter. Just like his dad.
The attacking questions in that interview, allowed Ta-Nehisi to strut is intellectual chops. He clearly enjoyed it and so did I.
And strut he did!! Loved it!!! and what it did...
I saw another interview and idk if he enjoyed it so much but he seemed glad to express the plight of Palestinians. The ironic thing is because of Tony's overt r@clsm Ta-Nehisi got to speak MORE about Palestinians and their struggles instead of just doing one or two interviews.
Listen super close to how his voices starts cracking and fading as he answered the first question after the guys assault. Coates was physically uncomfortable. He almost lost his breath and was struggling to breathe fully. It was a beautiful response and such a powerful example of maturity…but he did NOT enjoy that. Look at his physical reaction to it. I’ve been there before as a man. We show strength even when we feel weak and harmed. I’m praying for him. In that moment he wasn’t okay.
@@NobleWoodsIIIMBA That's the feeling I got. In the beginning it seemed like he was repulsed by the question.
Ta-Nahisi's intellectual chops wouldn't get him into grad school. He's a dumb dude.
If Mr. Coates was an Arab or a Muslim, that line of questioning would not have caused a single person to bat an eye.
Thank you so so much, Mr. Coates, for using your well earned seat at the table to advocate for this silenced and maligned community. May God give us all the opportunities and towfeeq to speak up on behalf of our brothers and sisters that are purposely kept out of the spaces we are invited to so steps can be taken to remove their hardships and oppression.
💯
I think it's important he's speaking up about this cause often people wield the fact that you are personally invested in something to say, "You have an agenda, I don't have to listen to you. You only see your side of the story." Of course on any issue, usually people personally invested will be the actual voices on the issue so that's not fair to shut them out. So it's always great when an outsider who's not personally invested (Or in this case as invested as any other American is.) to speak up because that petty defense of they are too bias doesn't work on them so well. You look bad like this interviewer did.
@@jmhorange exactly! Very well put. This is incredibly brave of Mr. Coates who is essentially signing up to potentially burn his hard earned platform and acclaim to the ground to do what is right but also super difficult right now in this place and time.
That's because there's over 200 Muslim terrorist organisations in the world
American Muslims, especially Black ones, would have and we count. There are no voiceless people, only the deliberately silenced.
Te-Nahisi is an awesome truth teller. He is strong intellectual man.
He is neither.
wtf? He totally overlooks the fact that the biggest oppressors of Palestinians and the main roadblock to peace aren’t the Israelis-it’s Hamas.
"The Israelis are known to love life. We, on the other hand, sacrifice ourselves. We consider our dead to be martyrs. The thing any Palestinian desires the most is to be martyred for the sake of Allah, defending his land." - senior Hamas official Ali Baraka (Oct 8, 2023)
Hamas fire's rockets from schools and hospitals, hoping Israel retaliates and kills civilians. This isn’t accidental; it’s a deliberate strategy where Hamas uses the graphic images of the broken bodies of their own people to hijack emotions and exploit global outrage. Since seizing power in Gaza in 2006 through violence, Hamas has blocked elections and maintained control by force. Even worse, they indoctrinate children into martyrdom, instilling hatred and a death cult mentality, ensuring the next generation is conscripted into their holy war. x.com/NateHindenburg/status/1728480677366997296 x.com/VerminusM/status/1793449993732264018
Hamas has been sabotaging peace efforts for years. After the Oslo Accords in the 1990s, which were intended to establish a path to peace-including a halt on settlement expansion-Hamas repeatedly undermined the process with violent attacks. Then, during the Camp David Summit in 2000, Israel offered Arafat 91% of the West Bank and all of Gaza, but Hamas responded by turning buses and cafes into blood-soaked killing grounds. Their violence didn’t just derail peace; it made it nearly impossible for Arafat to negotiate. Fast forward to October 7, 2023-Hamas launched another brutal attack, this time aiming to disrupt the progress of the Abraham Accords, signed in 2020, where countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco were moving towards recognizing Israel. Why? Because Hamas opposes any two-state solution or recognition of Israel's right to exist. They’re dedicated to eradicating Israel and establishing an Islamic state "from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea," across all of historical Palestine. Don’t take my word for it-read their 1988 founding charter en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Hamas_charter.
Gaza’s population is 2.1 million; 40,000 (2% of pop) have died so far, with 15,000 (38%) being militants. This is a marginally better ratio than the U.S. military's record in Iraq and Afghanistan, where only 20-35% of 200,000-400,000 deaths in Iraq and 240,000 in Afghanistan were militants. Yet no one accuses the U.S. of genocide.
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Just today I thought I wish Trevor had Ta Nehisi Coates on his show to talk about his latest book and then I found this video! I can't wait to hear the entire episode. Thank you!
No one cares about his book. He's a sham.
@@VedickDragon yes! No '1', thousands!
Oooooh, I've been waiting for this interview about THAT "interview" and I'm thrilled it's Trevor.
Y’all are seriously gonna make me wait until Thursday after dropping this?! Ugh, I can’t wait! This is gonna be good💪🏾🙏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾
Ohhh, that's the thing? I wondered why it was so short!
Gail sat there and looked on her ipad...said No- thing!
Didn’t realise she was present…
Who's really surprised? But she sure jumped in quick to try to defend Tony until he told her to allow the guest to get his points across.
Tony hijacked the whole interview. What was she supposed to do? She still has to work with this guy, why make a bad situation worst.
@@timothywatters4774Agreed. People really act like they don’t understand work politics. 😂
@@timothywatters4774 So because she has to work with someone that comes across as racist, she shouldn't say anything at all?
That makes absolutely no sense. And the same thing goes for Nate Burleson, who just sat there the whole time with a strained look on his face.
I hope Ta-Nehisi reads the comment section of that CBS interview. Everyone reacted like Trevor did. It was a shameful moment for CBS, but you sir handled it with the class and grace Tony owed you!
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The questions were good, Coates is a grifter.
@@astonwinterYour post is ridiculous. You be waiting for someone to get back with You/ Keyboard....
@@GwendolynWilliams-e1m Your just upset that I made a far great point than this terrorist supporter / victim hording Ta-Nehisi
I'm so sick of watching mainstream news and being told up is down and down is up when it comes to this issue. It's so exhausting to be constantly gaslighted by your own government and media when 90% of the world sees what's happening.
Duuuuuuuude this^!!!!!!!!!
Upon this accurate realization, a Bigger question begs to be asked: Why does one remain in a Nation that is so utterly evil? After 400+ years of an uninterrupted Parade of Horrors - be it the indigenous, the African slaves, the apartheid, the endless wars, the undercover atrocities, etc. - any rational person would have lost hope long ago.
Same main stream media that brings to you what is happening.
@@winnersfootballtv5517main stream?😂
@@shotelco I don't disagree and have lived in other countries before. For me, right now, it makes more sense for my family to live here in the US. But, for everyday Americans who have been burned by the system, who can't afford the pressure of corporate America; I don't understand why they haven't left because I know most people who struggle in the US would do much better in Latin America, Asia, or Eastern Europe.
The fact that Doukapil unironically asked Ta Nehisi if he cared about murdered children is insane! It proves that people in the media just *don't even see* Palestinians.
But he doesn't Ta Nehisi Coates does not care about dead jews, or dead white kids, he is a marxist black supremacist like his father, they are both black Nazis.
Right. Pay no attention to that bombed hospital or refugee camp. Nothing to see here.
he specifically asked him if he cared about murdered Israeli children, as he sorta kinda never mentions them one single time in his entire book. Like literally not even a passing mention. It is obvious he cares about Palestinians, so asking him that question would be kind of pointless. A person can be sad for both Palestinian and Israeli children.
@@NathanChesnakyDoukapil is the one who doesn’t consider Palestinians human.
Hopefully this will turn into more book sales. It is beautifully written and penetratingly resonant with this moment in time. Keep shining your light, Professor!
Just bought it a couple days ago.
@@77Creation enjoy!
Nah. It's just another race garbage text.
So glad you are addressing this egregious interview - I was SO MAD
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The Truth makes grifters mad.
Ta Nehesi my fellow Baltimore . I live in Israel and am part of a large group of people who agree with you and who are demonstrating against our government and horrified with this war and simultaneously mourning our loved ones we lost on October 7th and praying for the hostages. So many peace activists were killed on October 7th and their families vowed to continue their work. I do not know why we can not talk about the Palesti Ian plight without being accused of things but it is time to change that. There are those of us in Israel who are willing to hear your words. Shalom and Peace for our region.
Sorry Trevor,you rock it too
@@eudicebenor4537 Baltimore was always a place where Blacks and Jews had an acrimonious relationship. No wonder Mr Coates has such a negative view of the Jewish State.
chicken for KFC
Tears brought to eyes to know of people like you. We need more people like you in the world and in powerful position.
@@IbrahimSalman-s7i just so you know, there are many people in both groups that are hungry for peace but the machines of war care not
Thank you.
Thank you Mr Coates for your eye opening truth
I wish he hadn't ignored the stories of the israeli arabs
Tony spoke over EVERYONE to hammer his point in. He put his emotion on display and was the furthest thing from a journalist.
“The furthest thing from a journalist”. . . I’m going to have to steal that part! I see no lies here!
He said the truth.
Te-Nehisi handled the interview so well, seriously. What poise and grace.
I can't wait for this interview. Ta-Nehisi is an American treasure
Nah. He's a less than average professor who really should be sent back to grad School.
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Ordered the book‼
Me too!
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He handled that interview as well as you could under the circumstances. Given where it was and what those CBS interviews normally are, to be just kind of blindsided in general but in that specific way, you could see him not fully process for a bit what was actually said to him. Once you see it click for him, he handled it far more gracefully than anyone would expect to that sort of attack.
How dare someone ask him hard questions instead of telling him how great he is. He wrote a one sided anti Israel diatribe that ignores the Arabs’ religiously driven desire to wipe Israel out since May 14, 1948 and just blames the Jews for not being nicer to those who wish to destroy them.
Watch Aljazeera Documentary that just dropped
1. Gaza(2500 idf soldiers videos on their genocide live streamed)
2. Failing Gaza (western media cnn and bbc and their role in genocide)
3. Starving Gaza ( how they blocked food to kill anyone who survived the bombs)
I’m still shaking at how much America funds this barbarism and how people are either silent (democrats) or vile (republicans)
It’s barbaric how Western governments abdicated responsibility for their choices in this war. We need better. Isreal, Palestine, and Lebanon deserve better
@@greywolf845 me and you can do something by just saying the wrong that happened we can’t stay silent it’s all we have to do… thank you
You’d think that would they would talk about how and why Israel is responding as it did. Listening to Hamas and their desire to kill every Jew they can, they still believe that the Palestinians bear no responsibility for their situation. That their decision to make war on the Jews at every step is justified. What did Hamas expect to happen when it killed 1200 people and declared war on Israel? When they said their goal is to do 10/7 again and again?
Title of documentary?
The barbarism involve the captives that Hamas still has.
There is intelligence, there is serenity and there is wisdom and then there is all three combined in the right balanced way with so much confidence. The saying "ignorance is a bliss" has so many layers and categories.
Hearing Tana'Hessi here is proof to me that he knew what he was doing in that interview and that he was not phased one bit by all of the host's attempt.
It is also proof that the guy has a piercing eye for what surounds him and he is always driving but never let himself be driven
On the one hand, yes, Tony was rude, the question was aggressive and insulting, on the other he gave Coates an opportunity to kick his ass. Which Coates did. And made me buy his book!!
Trevor Noah: "AITA for making people wait to hear the entire interview???"
The Entire World: "HELL YEAH!"
lol When will it drop? In eager to watch / hear it too!
@@Peace-Love-JusticeOct. 10th.
GAYLE is a COWARD
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@@astonwinter Coleman's a grifter.
Nahhhhhhhhhh I need this full episode ASAP, Trevvie.
Come on now! 😏🔥
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I have not watched this yet BUT THANK YOU TREVOR NOAH for shinning mainstream light on this situation. Literally THANK YOUUUUUU
Trevor's been on MSM so many times this year and nothing but silence on Gaza. During this time South Africa had already started proceeding on genocide case against Israel, President and Foreign Minister said Palestine suffering through worst apartheid than South Africa, regular demonstrations in streets all over world... So good to see that he finally came around. Never too late to support justice.
Tony helped sell so many more books. Little plan backfired.
Thank you, Trevor for unpacking the stunning shock I experienced witnessing the flagrant disrespect with which Ta-Nehisi Coates was treated.
For your marketing team, this is quite the hook! Well done.
South african people and African American people deserve to educate the world on the evil of apartheid
This is about the first time I have heard Trevor Noah talk about Palestine
In the past year, yes. Pre-USA, he spoke. But his silence over the past year is pathetic
Maybe because Palestine isn’t the victims that people paint them out to be. Yes, the West Bank is racist and sad, but that still doesn’t justify allowing terrorist to willfully run your country and start a war that you’re ill prepared for.
I have still yet to see an anti Hamas protest, from these so called Palestine “supporters”. There is no right or wrong, there is no good or bad, there is only what you believe. Because, most of these Palestinian (Muslims in general) don’t share your beliefs or values. Is their beliefs wrong? Does your beliefs make you right?
It’s no different than a pro- choice person, complaining about kids dying; or a pro life person, standing by and watching this happen. There is no innate right or wrong. There’s only your belief.
@@jamarplunkett3283 you dont see anti-hamas protest just like you dont see anti black liberation protest. there is nothing to protest against people fighting for their rights
@@haniffhaniff5764 so Hamas and Palestine is one entity now? And I guess that the October 7 attack was them fighting for their rights.
If Hamas is fighting for Palestine rights, then I guess it’s fair to say that Palestine as a whole should bear the burden of the October 7 invasion into Israel. And their fore, can’t cry for fighting a hot war that they started. I remember people saying that Hamas is not Palestine; but now they are, ok.
And please don’t compare black liberation to terrorist’s. You didn’t see black people gain their independence during Jim Crow by taking hundreds of hostages and starting a hot war with a superior force. Hamas/Palestine aren’t the victims that you make them out to be.
This interview was very special! I listened to it already two times. Will listen to it again. I highly recommend it.
I know Coates says he doesn't care about the awards - but I care about his awards. I care that a Black man with awards is treated like a terrorist by another bland average guy who did nothing but show up to get a major platform. No awards, a career spent mostly behind desks, Tony is nothing more than a spokesmodel - and it really showed in that "interview." If it had been me, I would have said, "Get me a real journalist to ask questions. Not some head of hair."
The absolute gall of Tony to sit there and read off the same bland talking points we've heard a billion times to someone who is literally a generational talent. And feel he had the RIGHT to take away his accomplishments? Fucking despicable
CBS News had to address it, and said it was beneath their standards. Then Jan Crawford stepped into it by defending Dokoupil. Saying Dokoupil saved the network from allowing Coates to be one-sided on the issue. BONKERS.Genuinely bonkers.
Jan Crawford knows that CBS could’ve had another guest to counter point. US reporters are shameful to bring in their personal viewpoints.
Cannot wait for this interview!!!
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Thankyou for this comversation. A breath of fresh air.
Mr Coates could teach a class in efficient responses. The man's replies were to the point and short and still hit.
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Thank you Trevor Noah for continuing your excellent demeanor, framing of the situation and asking the question while holding space for TNC to respond!
The whole segment of the CBS Morning Show felt like an and interrogation and an ambush. Coates handled it well and with style.
Ta-Nehisi is amazing
I’m happy that he talked about Gail and the notes because say what you want, when Gail comes to interview you can tell she read the book and has notes. She tried to ask a question and Tony shooshed her! Go rewatch the interview.
The reason it didn't bother Mr. Coates because you are a man of truth and standards. And you rock. 😊
I saw that invert-view. And Tony Dokoupils questions show his CLEAR RACISM!! I was blown away😳😨
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❤❤❤❤ You are on the right path Ta-Nehisi!
He wanted to hurt, but he inadvertently became Ta-Nehisi Coates' best publicist. So many people who didn't before knows him know and will pickup this book and the rest of his work. It's like MSNBC trying to shut down Mehdi Hassan but letting him go. Now he is free of all internal pressure and will soon have a similar platform as the entire MSNBC, at least online.
So looking forward to seeing the whole interview! I'm looking forward to reading the book!
I took the bite!!! Ugh, you're leaving us hanging. Can't wait.
The phrase if you took the bait.
I was in the Palestinians territories for 3 weeks. Unbelievable nightmare, the people are so de-humanized; living basically in cages. They suffer enormously while the Israelis do not. Coates is telling the truth, he is the honorable one here.
@@svenlarsson3260this seems impossible to understand or even think of for so many people
@@svenlarsson3260the only person I met with an inkling of common sense. Yes, what’s happening to Palestine is sad, but they made this mess themselves. They allowed terrorist to prosper in their communities and live among them. To just dismantle any of their argument, just ask this;
What should have Israel done after the October invasion?
Coats is a class act! Respect
Thanks so very much for your honesty
This isn’t about Mr. Coates view of the Palestinians. It’s about how Black Americans are treated in America. After six decades of Civil Rights Fights, the clear reality is that we are not free to be who we are as a person, or to bring something new to the table for others to see.
We are to conform.
And in any walk of life, if we don’t, we are going to get cut down. No matter the “awards, the accolades, or the publisher.”😑
Correct!!! CBS set him up, but he was ready.
I can’t wait for this one
We are so so so proud of you Ta Nehisi for speaking up! Thank you Trevor for a very elegant conversation and helping bring more light in a very long historical darkness that did not start in October 7, 2023 but in 1947/48.
Listened to the CBS interview and found myself not upset with the reporter because of Ta-Nehisi Coates' handling of his question; made me realize that maybe some do need to be able to ask such questions even if the answer then, with the help of Coates, is obvious. Mr. Coates also reminded people of President Carter's book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" published in 2006, which maybe the reporter took note of and can learn from, as well? Even if some questions/assertions truly are stupid, we've all got to learn...
I would like to listen and see this entire conversation. I think that smart and honest people do some straight talking is always worth listening.
King allowed her colleague to hijack the interview. The issue isn't protecting the guest, but protecting the objectivity and integrity of the show.
She knew the subject matter being discussed. The issue was protecting her job. If she had dared interrupt the public humiliation of Coates, at the hands of her Jewish (he neglected to confess that part) cohort, she’d be looking for a new job right now.
She was probably taken back. Not sure she knew that was coming.
@@Shaolinthemple And if she were young and inexperienced, I'd accept that excuse. But, as a Black professional and a journalist it's not good enough.
A man full of knowledge and wisdom. Forever grateful for Ta-Nehisi!
I can't wait until Trevor uploads this whole interview.
Very interested to hear his views on apartheid in Palestine since he survived apartheid in South Africa.
October 10. I can’t wait. Seriously, I can’t wait. Five hours, ten minutes to go. Cmon, man.
The idea of a journalist advocating for the idea that “removing the context is essential because then you start to get into trouble” is mind blowing.
that is not what he said though. That is what Trevor seems to have heard, but what he said was if you removed the prestigious awards, the instantly recognized and respected name, then examine the content of the work (in its full context), you could find it to be, in his opinion at least, very extreme in the views it expresses. Removing the author's name isn't removing context. Removing Paragraphs or talking points from the work itself would be removing context. People can say he was rude or innapropriate, but Trevor just flat out didn't understand what he said on that question. The point is people are prejudiced when they see someone they like and respect said something, and they are then less likely to judge it critically.
@@NathanChesnaky you have mistaken that to which I referred. It is exactly word-for-word what Ta-Nehisi Coates said to Trevor at the end of the clip and it is fundamentally disappointing.
That interview has had my attention since it happened. Seeing Tony crash out like that was quite a sight. Coates has spoken eloquently and maintained his composure from then to now.
unless Coates states in the book that Israel doesn't have a right to exist, Tony was wrong... b/c that's how he came at Coates... as if Coates said Israel should not exist... from Coates it seems he's just giving the perspective of the everyday Palestinians... not Hamas
Exactly. Tony was looking for a fight that was not there. Coates did not oblige him.
Btw, Israel doesn’t have a right to exist! A illegal occupying apartheid regime has not right to exist!
Right, Many Israelis and Jews in various countries often accuse anyone who cares about the Palestinian ppl, anti Israel or against Israel's right to exist! How hypocritical to believe you have the right to exist but others such as the Palestinians do not have the right to exist in their own State.
The conflation of Palestinians with Hamas being perpetuated by pro-Israel voices is _WRONG_ 😠
so apartheid south africa had the right to exist ?
As a big fan, I have been very disappointed on Trevor's silence on Palestine.
They’re all tools, unfortunately.
Trevor only just got his gig. He is also a foreigner. He got a big break in America. He cannot just throw it in the bin on the Israel Palestine issue. Candice Owens tried it. It did not go well. Black folk walk a very tight line in the halls of power. Power being government, banks and media. This domain is not owned by black folks. Some black folks might get big salaries but they are on a very tight leash. They need to keep their coin.
Not black people fight we get mistreated by both
So what 😂😂😂😂
@@jewuloi get it, but this is bigger than him, and he’s in a position of serious power. History judges on principle
There will be no repercussions. He was following his superiors’ instructions. I knew Ta-Nehises was not unprepared for this type of confrontation. What is interesting is he did not take a side. He objectively reported what he saw and experienced. Never said or wrote anything about either nation’s right to exist.
I have never seen this type of behavior during journalistic interviews during any other wars. Not even during the era of apartheid in South Africa.
Tony’s behavior during the interview has led to previously uninvolved people to take another look at what is going on. So much happening around the world at this time.
CBS should fire Dokoupil. It was unbelievably insulting. Hopefully this will have a Streissand effect and will make people want to buy the book.
Go watch the video "Coleman Hughes: Ta-Nehisi Coates is a coward on Israel" then get back to me
@@CamiloSanchez1979 I agree with you! But they would never fire this guy when the network shares the same view! The problem is clear now!
Thank you T and T
I’m sooo happy this is ready to be shared!
A sneak peek!!? Look at you guys making us anticipate!
Excellent podcast! Trevor Noah superb interview!
I agree with Ta Nahesi, I cant understand why he's not offended to basically been called an exstremist. It made me so angry. That's such a revealing part of Tony's worldview/position/narrow mindness. My only explanation is because of Ta Nahesi's background/anchestry he just doesn't get fazed anymore? Or if its more about his personality?
in the US caring about the Palestinians IS an extremist position sadly. The US is so far onto the Israeli side of things its ridiculous.
I love him even more after watching this, because he was emphatic to the other host❤
Will definitely tune in, I will say Tony really sold the book for me, because his is so blind to his bias it is embarrassing.
You, too, can follow Coates into being radicalized.
And this is why I no longer watch any morning, evening or cable news shows anymore. 😏🙋🏽♀️
Ta-Nehisi is my bro, excellent brother
His point on the silencing of the black colleagues is very much appreciated
The way to support and protest the egregious behavior towards those who speak up for the Palestinian people is to buy the book and educate yourselves on the continued apartheid that is happening.
Bought the Audible Audiobook a couple days ago.
Write on controversial topic, get some controversy. Please protect Ta-Nehisi from any more challenges to his ideas. He is above scrutiny.
Gayle lowkey was trying co-sign in the background don’t give her that much credit.
VOTING Jill Stein & Butch Ware 2024! Only candidates not controlled by AIPAC / corporations. Amazing to see Jewish and Muslim come together working for peace and justice for all and not just their own tribal interests
I read a comment describing the interview as 'shameful,' but I’m not sure I agree. I believe we need more open discourse on this subject-good, bad, and indifferent-to uncover a grain of truth amid the chaos of this moment. From my perspective, there are untruths circulating in the media, and not all perspectives are being considered. Ta-Nehisi Coates raised this very point, emphasizing the need for broader viewpoints, which we desperately need. Hearing all sides might be the only way to navigate this moment in history. Plus, I think Ta-Nehisi is a skilled debater who can steer the conversation effectively while defending his stance.
Maybe that’s a takeaway here-articulating our arguments well can help anyone engage in complex discussions with the kind of finesse Ta-Nehisi used to dismantle Tony’s approach. The real drama lies in the desire to get caught up in side conversations. The key (from where I stand), however, is understanding how to engage in difficult discussions to make room for honesty.
Can't wait to see the whole interview!
Much respect for Mr. Coates!
Never heard of Te until the interview. It was very good publicity for the Palestinian 🇵🇸 cause.
What is the palestinian cause? Because some of them want to live peacefully, but around half of them believe in Jihad and want to live under sharia law
Thanks!
Wow now I can't wait for the whole episode it's going to be great
" I was good" I knew Ta-Nehisi was good.He was prepared, and he responded as such.
You need to check out Trevor's monologue he did on his show he did from his apartment about the Israeli/ Palestine situation this was about 3/4 yrs ago Trevor did a deep dive into the subject very good
It’s about time. What took him so long?
Ta-Nehisi Coates, you are awesome!!!!
So was he basically calling him a terrorist ??????
I can’t wait to listen to the full podcast. I can already tell. I’m probably gonna have to listen to it twice. In fact when the deed was being done and he was being disrespected, I said to myself, I can’t wait to some of my favorite black interviewers get a hold of Coates to discuss this. We need the replay-by-play, and he’s absolutely correct: He handled himself. I hadn’t even considered how he also did a disservice to the other journalist in the room. 🧐🤔💯