M2 MacBook Air | M1 MacBook Air Still a Better Buy?
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2022
- Is the M1 MacBook Air a better buy over the M2 MacBook Air when it comes to actual sales and better overall value? And, will you wait for the M2 MacBook Air due to the likely delays? After WWDC 2022 I'm sure many of you were excited of the M2 announcement, but it seems that the price of the M2 MacBook Air at $1199 USD might seem reasonable and expected, but the price seems to be higher in other countries.
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Love, Love, Love your videos...giving us the pragmatic truth. This just reminds me why I subscribed to your channel.
Hey, appreciate having you here, friend. I know it’s not amped up excitement, but the pragmatic approach helps me live with myself 🤣
Been missing chatting with you in the live stream!
I really need to schedule a livestream for the community. Love hanging out.
@@KevinRossRN yes please
I’ll make it happen.
Great point on that psychology aspect of pricing! Looking forward to seeing how this performs but I’m with you, sounds like a minor upgrade really…
PS: I miss the wedge 😜
Yeah, the reviews should be kind of funny when they come out. Efficient, definitely. But a massive leap?
And yes, the wedge nostalgia isn’t long for the Apple store.
M2 in the Air sounds nice for content creation when I'm on the road, but I'm not there yet and likely won't be until at least this time next year. I'll need to rewatch your vids showing real world performance with the encoding on the M1 vs M1 Max/Ultra. I think upgrading now from my 16gb M1 Mini would have me in the diminishing returns area for my use-case. Whenever I'm actually ready for something portable I'll probably go with a Pro for the XDR display. Maybe by that time the Air will have a better display. Or I'll just go with the Air and deal with having a completely adequate display and saving money.
Yeah, that M1 mini is great and I still use it. Very capable. Once you’re looking for portability, or really needing/wanting it, then the Air would be fine for most workflows in the creative space.
It’s when you really start to add some complexity where that thermal headroom is needed in something like the pro. But I’d guess that XDR may stick with the Pro for the time being until there’s a next iteration where an XDR could slide into the Air without it “bleeding” into the Pro line.
Appreciate you hanging out.
Kevin,when you get an M2, I really want to see if the thunderbolt speed is improved over the M1.
I’m expecting that this may have been addressed. Guess we’ll see 🤷♂️
Here in Sweden new MB Air starts at $1650... and it's $300 gap between old and new one.
And that gap certainly makes a difference for many. Appreciate you sharing your starting price. Always helpful to add context.
I ordered mine! However 16 GB, 10 core, with 512 storage ❤️💻🙏🏻 in the midnight color. Shipping August 9th! Your videos really helped!
Awesome! I’ve got two on the way for testing. A base model, and an upgraded 16GB and 1TB.
Congrats on that order. August 9th isn’t too bad…seems like 4 weeks is becoming pretty standard, which now that I type it out like that, might seem like a bummer.
Either way, you’ve got that M2 to look forward to.
Great to have you here with us.
@@KevinRossRN yep it’s gonna be my early birthday present to myself lol 😂 🎉 🎁 🙏🏻😎👍🏻
YES!! Sending you the best birthday wishes. 🎉🎂🥳
i waited for the redesigned macbook air to replace my 2015 macbook air. i visited an apple store i spent time with the macbook pro 15inch its a bit heavy an a chunky boy. i always enjoyed the air i find the air to be a bit more easier to use when im on a train or in the back seat of a cab. i have a m1 mac mini. i know it can do what i need it too but i waited this long and i really like the starlight color an the better screen
Hey, if this is something you’ve been waiting for then this may be the opportunity to take advantage. Do you think you’ll be making the investment right away?
@@KevinRossRN im thinking about pre ordering if Apple does those but my gut is telling me to wait and watch reviews. havent really decided
Well, I know it’s tough to buy blindly, even for us that are making these reviews.
I went around with this for an hour the other day, and how I'll use it.. honestly if it came with SD card, HDMI output and the cool colors like we thought they where coming out with.. I would order.. but it's a 18% faster and a little better.. and what I intend to use... honestly I'm thinking of getting a 11" 2014 Mac Book Air as a portable word processor for typing on the go. I see those for about $200 and they are not longer supported, can't use the latest OS.. but for having a small disposable netbook for "Pages" Safari etc... I might go that route.. oh and I still love my Mac mini M1. Best Buy of mine in 20 years. maybe in 6 months when I get to shooting / editing more of my Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4K BRAW I may move to the Mac Studio. $2,000 version perhaps.. but yeah mini m1 is solid.. and external hard drive arrays is probably more important for me.. and maybe a knock about 11" MBA for on the go writing. leave my large clunky 15" MBP or iPad with Bluetooth keyboard that takes up more volume and have to plug everything together.. But anyone else miss the Mac Netbook style 11"? If it was 11" M1 with SD card and cool bright fun colors.. I would be on preorder.
Yeah, I had a colleague with that same 11” footprint. Felt like it could fit in my back pocket. 😉
But definitely, if you’re just managing those tasks on the go, I think it would be fine. Although I’d remember those fans spinning up the more RAM intensive tasks you asked it to handle.
Once the wedge disappears I could see the older models holding some value, based on that nostalgia.
A lightly up-spec’d base M1 Pro MBP has a current delivery date of up to Aug 22nd (?!). May as well wait for the M2 line at this point - very discouraging.
Well and I can’t imagine what the wait times will be once the initial inventory is purchased when they launch. 🤷♂️
@@KevinRossRN True. My needs are simple - light DaVinci or FCP editing and Lightroom or similar - no fancy Photo Shop stuff. If I knew the M1 Air w/16 gb could handle those without the dreaded beach ball, I’d get by with no MagSafe and extra I/O, and have one by July 4. I’d just hate to mis-buy. Fortunately, I don’t need it for professional use. You still have the best channel out there in this realm 👍
Wait until all the videos start popping up. “The new M2 MacBook Air beats the M1 Max MacBook Pro” or something that. The comments section will be fun to watch on those videos.
But I don’t personally plan on or expect these M2 machines to be a threat to the MacBook pros for those that are really using these to scale up their workflow beyond what an ultraportable is designed to do.
However the next year or so will be interesting to see how things shake out when these chips barely need any thermal headroom. Then we might start seeing these being preferred over a Pro. 🤷♂️
Appreciate you. Many thanks for your time.
Honestly, I'm waiting for M2 PRO. And that might even be 1 year away to be honest. But... currently I am happy using my Desktop PC at home, and my Intel MBP16 from work for when I travel. So until I still have this system I am not upgrading. Makes 0 sense. But... if I was to return my work laptop (which I might in near future) I am actually considering the M2... However, I'd still likely go for M1 PRO (MBP14 prob to keep that portability - carrying that MBP16 is not always fun)
I mean, if you have a setup that’s working for you, I certainly wouldn’t spend the money if I didn’t have to.
And agree that the 14 inch footprint is awesome for travel.
Appreciate you hanging out.
Totally agree with your analysis, Kevin.
Btw, there’s a relatively new Nvme ssd out; the WD sn770. R/W speeds (2700/2600) are very encouraging in the Acasis Thunderbolt 4 case on the M1 based, on a video I saw a couple of days ago. I’ll be getting my sn770 tonight and will test it out on my M1 iMac. I’ll let you know what I get.
Definitely let me know how it’s going with the SSD. I was thinking about picking that one up for testing. 🤘
@@KevinRossRN So, very good results: write: 2700-2790, read: 2740-2790. I was using the Blackmagic software for the test. There were a couple of times that the read would score like around 400 and then go back up to 2790.
Thanks for sharing. That could likely be a thermal or cache throttling. Probably the cache.
@@KevinRossRN No problem Kevin. Happy to help.
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So does the M1 still outpace the updated M2 MacBook Air both because of price and the availability, at least for the remainder of this year as the supply chain tries to catch up? Sending my best to you all, and here's hoping to our international friends that these M2 devices will settle down and land closer to the USD equivalent.
In Germany you get the M1 MacBook Air for 900 Euro. The M2 MacBook Air is 1500 Euro. The M1 is so much more value. 100% Agree with you!
There you go. That’s a pretty big jump in price between the two, and I’m not sure that jump wouldn’t come with some diminishing returns 🤷♂️
Love your Channel, Kevin. Big big compliments, you are very likable !
Ha! Much appreciate that. Just glad to have everyone here. And, just trying to bring another perspective.
I’m
Not interested in buying one, but I do agree that with Apple having such long lead times on other products, a number of buyers may cancel their purchases and buy one of these instead, as there will initially be some stock
Yeah it’ll be interesting to see if we all of a sudden see available inventory for the M1 Pro/Max or seeing shipping times drop because others will cancel their initial orders on those machines.
i’m getting my first ever Macbook M1, but which one should i get: M1 Macbook Air with 16gb ram or the base model of M1 Macbook air with 8gb ram?
Im going to use it for school....word, excel, powerpoint, Discord, browsing, Netflix and youtube.
The base model (8GBs of RAM) would be fine for general tasks like that, but if you can find a little extra in your budget, I do recommend 16. Even for browsing you can start to use quite a bit of RAM and although the swap memory is really efficient, you’d want to make sure to have some reserved space on your internal drive to be able to perform that swap.
@@KevinRossRN thank you! if i got the base model, would i be able to have it for 3-5 years?
Oh of course. It’ll get you through for those types of tasks. 👍
I have had my macbook air M1 for about 1 mth now and have no intension of upgrading to the M2 (not that it is much of an upgrade) - it edits my drone footage in 4k and I am more than happy with it.... on an upnote I am waiting for my Mac Studio M1 to arrive which should be more than powerful - for what I could throw at it, at least for now!!!!
Ah yes, that speaks to the video I did not that long ago that those two devices are a deadly combination.
I’ll be curious to hear (if you decide to share) what you think of those two together.
@@KevinRossRN No worries Kevin - I am currently making a spare room into my "Cut my teeth You Tube Studio" and will be filming that - Hopefully soon.....
That’s awesome. Hey, just get that start because there’s always evolution of your space.
@@KevinRossRN Thanks Man....
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Great work Kevin! Will wait until the 13 inch MBP has better design (I mean at least update the keyboard and remove the touch bar), otherwise I'm happy with my macbook air m1. In terms gaming, I would rather pay more for my internet and use online gaming platforms.
Yeah, those online gaming platforms are only going to get better…but as you said, as long as you’ve got the Internet speed to manage it.
Appreciate your time here. 🤘
The new M2 is so that programmers can start programming games with the new Metal 3 graphics library. The real M2 (called the Pro) will be out later this summer with hardware ray tracing for games. It's the best Apple could do, the effort at Blender just took too long to make the developer deadline for games. I'd wait until the real M2 gets released.
That’s another valid point right there for those that are in the development community. I’m more excited to see what they’re going to be doing with Metal 3 in the coming year.
Na. I’m gonna pull the trigger on the m1 air now. I been waiting for this price drop to upgrade my i5 2018 air.
Well I will say, you will notice a big difference between that i5 and the M1. That’s the leap you will appreciate.
I'm planning to sell my M1 MBA (BEST computer I've ever owned) to buy the M2 MBA. I do also have an M1 Max MBP (other BEST computer I've ever owned) and M1 Mac mini but I love the Air so much and I really want the newest version.
Yes, these are such great devices and I love the ultra portability of the Air and it’s just funny because I can pretty much do the same thing on the Air that I can the M1 Max.
Sounds like a plan though. Looking forward to hearing what you think about it when you make that move.
I currently bought a 2021 MBP m1 pro to replace my 2012 MacBook Air but after seeing the new MacBook Air, I want to get that too. I think I like the way the air is so light but I also like the slant of the older style M1 air. I bought the pro to future proof it knowing I don’t always buy new mac’s but if I knew if the new air was gonna have the redesign, I would’ve waited. I’m torn
That’s a tough spot to be in. What’s your primary use case for your current MBP?
@@KevinRossRN mostly web browsing, emails and eventually some video editing but I was never sure if I should get the pro if im going to be doing video editing through Final Cut Pro. Ive seen videos that the MacBook Air m1 is more than capable to edit videos but I also bought the m1 pro for resale value but seems like it doesnt matter that much. And probably selling it now isn't worth it and might as well keep haha. But any honest advice would be greatly appreciated since most of you youtubers have more than one computer anyway so would like to know why you folks need more than one laptop.
Well, not sure if this helps, but I will be getting the MBA M2 mostly for corporate use. Running my other business. This will include running several apps we’ve built, along with virtual machines, typical office work, etc. Way more under the hood than I’d need for those tasks.
As far as the occasional editing, I agree the M1 is more than capable. The nice thing about these M2 chipsets is the media encoders, which are similar to the M1 Max (essentially), and so being able to work with heavier codecs and complicated timelines for rough cutting footage will be nice, IF I needed this on the move when I’m not near my MBP.
For me, I typically keep separate machines for each business.
I’ll be testing the creative use cases on the M2, but once I’m done with all of that testing, it’ll then be converted to that corporate device.
The M1 Pro will likely be compared (heavily) to the M2 MBA, and I expect you’ll see plenty of videos on why you should choose the M1 Pro over the MBA, especially for thermal headroom and more creative focused tasks.
For many of us here on the platform, we do tend to have several devices. For me however, each device must be put into rotation and used, rather than sitting on a shelf or taken back to the store after I’ve made my video 😏
Anyway, I think we’re going to find a lot of similarities with the 14 inch footprint and this new MBA.
I’d say to not spend money just to spend it, but if you decide to make the investment, how do you see yourself using these two devices?
The MBP being more of a desktop replacement while the MBA being your everyday carry? 🤷♂️🤔
I received my mba m1 today!! Should I return it and get the m2 instead?
Congrats! So you need a computer right now, and what’s your primary use?
@@KevinRossRN
I don’t need it right now. I could wait to get the new one. I’m a teacher so I do regular stuff with my 💻. What worries me is the shipping time on the MBA 2.
That’s a valid worry. If you were to order it, I would do it the day it goes on sale. Immediately after it goes on sale. Otherwise, you will be waiting weeks to months depending on where you are.
However, as a teacher, what would you be doing with it that you can’t do on these M1?
And, is the M2 within your budget?
@@KevinRossRN I do keynote presentations, write lesson plans, video calls, email…. I think the M1 is more than enough. I love the gold color and I got the 512 gb with apple care and tax included for 1361.
If I get the m2 I would like the 512gb of storage and the apple care so it’ll be around 1,536. So it’s a 200dlls difference.
It’s within my budget, but I’m not sure about the waiting…. I have never bought apple products just right out of the oven!!! I don’t know how long will I have to wait.
So with supply chains getting squeezed even more, hard to say when I’m July it’ll be ready for order. Closer to mid or even last week in July? And then likely not getting into hands before August. Maybe end of July 🤷♂️.
The M1 is way more than capable of handling your needs. And good that you got Apple care. I do think it’s a worthwhile investment.
Hmm so is this M1.5?
Maybe M1.25. It’s going to be interesting when these come out to see how “disappointed” everyone will be 😏
They’ll be great machines for those that have yet to invest in these SoCs.
@@KevinRossRN so true, if someone hasn't purchased the m1 then this m2 isn't a bad buy, but I'm wondering if I would like the design, if it had the card reader I'd 100% get this, but I remember I owned the MacBook Air and I really loved the shape, when I went to the MacBook Pro 13" it was more of a downgrade in comfort which was odd because honestly I prefer the wedge on my palms from the air
I'm wondering if this would be the case, it might be fun to compare the max spec air m1 vs the m2 model because I just love the classics, I'm still on my iMac 2020 i9 10 core and I still enjoy life, and haven't really found the need to edit on the go but I'm traveling to Philippines in September it would be nice to have something light to get some work done.
pretty interesting perspective you got there. still thinking about your studio + Mac air combo, is it still the case with the m2 or does that make it more expensive, and you can get away with a 14" or 16" and spec it out then plug in a monitor for back home?
Yeah, I’d like to pick up the “equivalently” spec’d M2 Air to compare to the M1. The one place I see the advantage of the M2 for video editors is that media engine that’ll play nicely with that 264 and 265 codec. The SD card reader is something I use all the time, so I’d miss this if it were my only portable.
And as far as the studio and the M2 combo, I’m finding more and more where I’m choosing the portable option over a desktop. With the M2, I could see this happening more.
@@KevinRossRN oh you're saying that the m2 will play nicer with pro-res and other of the newer codecs, thats what my iMac is missing, I can cut through raw video like butter but when it comes to the new formats, its a different story... I'm patiently waiting for your 2 cents!! because I just love that gold in the m1 was there anything your m1 air was sluggish with? or it does everything you throw at it? studio I feel like is out of this world but then when u go ultra you need a specific use case to utilize the performance, I learn so much from your videos!! thanks Kevin
ooo I wasn't expecting that. so you would prefer the laptop over the desktop I guess that the performance is literally so good these days that would be the case. wow. thats so awesome to know!!
Yeah, the performance in these portable devices doesn’t make me “want” for a desktop, which didn’t used to be the case.
And yes, I bet we’ll see a lot of comparisons between the M2 and the M1 pro because the Max has those video encoders, but the Pro doesn’t, so it could make folks swing over to the M2 rather than invest in the M1 Pro.
But yeah, my M1 has been fine. I think the only issues I’ve found is when I’m working with something like DJI footage, or Insta360 or GoPro…when the timeline is a bit more complicated. The Max has no issues with those, however I don’t really mess with those codecs too much.