Quantum Leap Fans Have Been Left STUNNED.. Here's Why
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2022
- Quantum Leap Fans Have Been Left STUNNED.. Here's Why
Welcome back to Film Tremble. NBC's Quantum Leap relaunch has found a way to break its most important rule, sending Ben Song further back in time than Sam Beckett typically traveled. Quantum Leap's time travel has always been more of a plot device than anything solid and concrete, but there have still been a few rules baked into the core concept. The most important (only broken once in the original series, with the breach explained as being due to genetics) was that leapers like Sam Beckett and Ben Song could only travel back within their own lifetimes.
Quantum Leap episode 5 breaks this rule, however, sending Ben back to the year 1879. This was actually set up in previous episodes, with the Quantum Leap project team realizing he was building up a sort of temporal momentum to break the normal barriers imposed by the Quantum Leap form of time travel. It was compared to a slingshot effect, where a ship builds up momentum by using the gravity of a star or planet. The analogy is an intriguing one, in that it implies Ben's initial leaps were deliberately chosen in relation to some major event in world history, one that would boost his travels through spacetime. In related news, Quantum Leap episode 4 finally answers that question, in a striking scene in which Herbert "Magic" Williams reveals he remembered what it is like to be leaped into. A soldier in the Vietnam War, he was originally supposed to die in the conflict - along with Sam's own brother. Sam Beckett changed the timeline, however, leaping into Magic's body at just the right moment. Magic remembers experiencing a strange feeling, as though he was stood in front of a door and could choose whether to open it or not. Curiously, he chose to accept the experience, and then seemed to black out. When he "awoke," it was a week later, and he learned he'd just gotten his band out of trouble yet again. This is the first time Quantum Leap has ever addressed what it feels like to become a leaper's host.
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In the original series finale, Al and Gooshi realize that Sam leaped into himself because there was nobody in the Waiting Room. At the end of the episode when Sam decided to leap to Beth’s living room, he did so AS HIMSELF.
Again, nobody in the Waiting Room.
What if Sam just continued leaping around as himself? With nobody in the Waiting Room, the Project Quantum Leap staff would have assumed he was lost.
He was leaping as himshelf.There was also a alternate ending to the finale .Also,if the show was not cancelled,I think Al would have stepped into the quantum leap,and become a new leader, becoming other persons and Sam would have leaped as himshelf.Of course ,the show was cancelled
It’s very hard to explain that episode because sam did leap into himself before who was in the waiting room then ?
I think what happened is Sam's final leap his body and mind both leaped so Sam could leap around all of time as his self this is were the new series should start explaining what happened to Sam's mind and body .
The original QL clearly showed when Sam leaped in to a person there mind was transferred to Sam's body in the waiting room the is no mystery there .
@@pryxed7972the catch there is the when component. He leaped into his younger self not exactly at his birth or present but a point in the middle.
What happened to Sam's body is not up for debate. His body remaining in the "waiting room" where Al would interrogate the host mind inhabiting Sam's body was a firmly established concept in the original show. Sam's body never vanished until the final leap where he consciously decided to not return home.
I was about to write that.
good show
In the show it was established that his body was in the past and the person he leapt into was transferred into the waiting room. While they exchanged auras and some neurons. So others saw the original person. Why Sam could walk when he leapt into people with no legs.
In season 2, ep 4 “What Price Gloria?” Al was going crazy because Sam leapt into a woman. Al said in that episode that he doesn’t see Sam but instead sees the host, which became a problem for Al in that episode as he sought therapy to deal with his developing attraction to his friend 😂. Al also said in that episode that Sam’s body was in the waiting room.
Exactly, it was even part of why they had a hard time finding him in the last episode. They didn't have someone to ask.
The real importance of that rule in the original series is that it made sure the writers were constrained to topics and contexts arising within their OWN life experience, and prevented them from trying to speak authoritatively of times not their own. I'm not surprised at all that a writing room in 2022 has no such humility. I'll give them points for at least attempting to justify it in the plot, though.
It's not about lacking humility. It was about budget constraints. Future and past episodes that went beyond the writers lifetimes meant the studio would have to spend a lot of money to either create future sets OR rent expensive costumes & either pay to shoot in old world locations or create them. By doing 'only in Sam's lifetime' they wouldn't have to change much. Just some minor set redressing and/or renting older cars. Since it was the 80's you could go back to the 30's and 40's and still find places cheap to shoot in that looked the same.
Nowadays it doesn't cost as much to do all that since CGI has gotten a lot cheaper.
Sam was born in 1953 so they didn't leap further back than 1953 except for two episodes. One was The Leap Back where Sam was switched with Al due to being hit by lightning. Al went to 1945 because it was in his lifetime. The other was The Leap Between the States, when Sam leaped into his great grandfather's life in 1864. All the other episodes were in Sam's lifetime, although they fudged that a couple times. In Play It Again Seymour, Sam leaped to April, 1953. He was born in August, 1953 but was alive in utero in April so technically within his lifetime.
My main issue with the reboot is that almost every single episode is life or death. It seems that in almost every episode Ben literally has to save someone's life and while that did happen on the original QL, a majority of those episodes were about Sam leaping into the body of someone who was at a crossroads in his/her life and he needed to help them change their fate for the better. It felt more intimate and relatable. And while I appreciate the increased diversity in this new version and that the reboot is tying itself to Sam's story, the fact that they spend so much time back at the QL project means we don't get as much time with Ben and the people he leaps into so we lose time to develop an emotional connection to these characters. Just my two cents. But hey, what do I know? Apparently this reboot is popular.
While Quantum Leap tackled social issues, each "leap" was personal. Sam wasn't helping "the people," he was helping a person, and I think that's the big takeaway. Every individual, and their story, is significant.
It may not be as popular as some want it to be... My two cents from someone who really liked the original Quantum Leap
Best comment so far!!! But what can we expect? We're living in the "low taste of everything" now. Thanks to all damn Tiktok generation out there
You’re right
The show needs several things that can make it well watchable? It needs a rousing theme song, something memorable. The bland narration that it currently has is just bad.
Dr Song talks to Addison way too much. No one ever notices? He needs to start going up to a pay phone and pretending to talk to someone so people don't stare at him and think he's crazy.
Dr Song should be the main focus. He and Addison should have much much more interaction instead of the overly dramatic story lines taking place at the headquarters.
Have Ziggy talk!
My 2 cents.👍
If they hire Scott Bakula like they should have, there would be an entire decade more that he could leap back and still remain within the confines of the show.
As of right now Scott has turned down reprising his Roll as they gave him the script and the premise but that is not to say his mind will change so NBC did reach out to Scott
@@notuptome They thought about it and decided on the younger viewer appeal. He always said he would reprise the role if he was asked.
@@jeepdude7359 thats not what they did... they had talks w Bakula that went on for a while. "They decided"... lol ypu read somethong somewhere and type it out like you were there LMAO
@@jeepdude7359 "roll" ROFL
@@DeathbySkullfxxx What is your understanding of what took place? Scott would have been the perfect choice.
The original series seemed confused over whether Sam's body moved in time or only his consciousness or spirit, but I'm fairly sure that it settled on the theory that his body went with his mind into the past, and only the "aura" of the person he'd leapt into remained behind, which is why most people saw the person he'd leapt into, but young children and people with mental handicaps could see Sam himself. In one episode, Sam leapt into an army veteran who had lost both his legs, but Sam could still walk, and it looked to everyone else like he was floating in mid-air. In another, he leapt into a blind concert pianist, but he could still see. If only his consciousness had leaped, this would have been impossible.
As for the idea of leaping outside his own lifetime, in the original series, there was a group of "evil leapers", clearly from Sam's future, who were using technology based on his Quantum Leap project. They were from further ahead, and leaper Alia looked younger than Sam, but she was still able to leap into Jimmy LaMotta's sister-in-law in 1966, so it's very likely that the evil leapers could send someone beyond their own lifetime.
They werent confused... they just retconned it. At one point in time it was him in their bodies... then later it was his body and brainwqves had peoole seeing the other people. This was clearly on display when he played the amputee in season 5... an amputee but Sam walks(floats)... much like Ziggy siddenly changing from a guy to a girl amongst many shifts. Different writers, and different directions for seasons will do this.
And Renee Coleman who played Alia was born in 1962. So... logistically... even if it were a few years in the future the Evil Leaper came from(frankly I think it was a parallel universe) it was within her lifetime.
@@DeathbySkullfxxx I think they had Sam physically leaping from the beginning. Al tells Sam that he looks like the guy he leaped into and that guy in the waiting room looks just like Sam. Anyway I asked Deborah Pratt how Sam could physically leap into other people’s clothes like Dr Ruth who is tiny or the monkey. She said that God controls the leaps and can do anything. I wasn’t thrilled with that answer. While I don’t like the new show I “buy” Ben’s way of leaping better.
Another thing: if the original series had not been cancelled when it was, the plan was to have Sam leap into the far future, and appear on a space station, which would have changed the premise of the show anyway.
@@DeathbySkullfxxx interesting idea of a parallel universe but what motive would they have changing history in our timeline wouldn’t affect their home reality?
@@2bituser569 I don't remember if it was said but from similar stories it could be "only 1 timeline can remain".
I loved the original Quantum Leap, grew up with it and have re-watched it multiple times. When this new show came about I only had one thought, if they don't find and help Sam at some point, I will be pissed. That was the only thing I hated about how the original ended and it seriously needs "good" closure.
Amen to that! I watched a video about the writers reason for ending the original show the way they did. I don't remember the exact details but it had something to do with being unsure if NBC was going to renew for another season. So they had to have an "ending" at the ready just in case. NBC canceled the show and we all got stuck with that half-ass final episode. So yes, I totally agree with you.
@@CrystalwithaK1980 yea. At least they did a follow up book to that episode
I’m really just watching the show to find out what happened to Sam
I LOVED THE ENDING
I don’t like the new one. Watching the old ones for the first time. I was too busy in the 80’s. Love the old show.
The original series made it clear that Sam replaced the person he leapt into not only in mind, but also bodily. Let's not forget the episode where Sam leapt into a double amputee but was still able to stand up. So from that it is clear that the person appearing in the "waiting room" is also in their own body. However, the deleted scene from the end of the final episode made it clear that Sam was leaping as himself rather than replacing other people after the events of that episode, mean there was no longer anyone appearing in the waiting room. In the revival series, we know that Ben is not leaping as himself, but at the same to there has been no mention of anything remotely similar to the waiting room of the original series, but neither has there been anything about Ben's body being left behind. I'm enjoying this series, but that is an inconsistency I really feel they need to explain. It could possibly be done by having a character talk a little about how the quantum leap technology has been refined since Sam's original version, so I see no reason for the writers not to address this.
Also, regarding your thoughts on Ziggy guiding the leaps and how Ziggy being shut down would have affected Sam, you seem to be forgetting that the original made it pretty clear that Sam's leaps were random. The revival, however, made it very clear that Ben and Janice had created a new program that would guide his leaps toward whatever goal he's trying to achieve. What this says to me is that, in the original quantum leap program, there was no control, be it by Ziggy or any other earthly being or system, so Sam would have continued to leap random regardless of Ziggy's operational status. The program that is controlling Ben's leaps is a new addition to the quantum leap program that is able to override whatever natural (or supernatural) forces would usually control the leaps in a similar way to how technology can redirect currents or other such things. I don't struggle with that part at all.
There actually was one episode of the original series where Sam leaped into one of his ancestors who was a soldier in the civil war. So in that particular instance, he did leap further than the limits of his own lifetime.
I haven't watched the series since the 90's but that sounds familiar! That's probably the episode that was _very_ briefly mentioned at 0:20. "... with it being blamed on genetics." Which seems like a reasonable enough theory/explanation within the QL universe 😊
Also there was the time he swapped places with Al - as in Al was the leaper and Sam was the hologram - and leapt to a time that _was_ within Al's lifetime, though earlier than Sam's lifetime. And yes they switched back in the end.
I just ordered the complete series bluray for $28. Nice sale going on now.
The other one was when Sam leaped into Al in 1945. There was a third, but it was a technicality. In the first season Sam leaped 4 months before his birth. I would say his birthday wasn't established yet, but 8/8/1953 was stated in the pilot.
@@tomservo75 and also, in the last episode, Al's uncle leaps beyond the point of his death, to help out Sam. So, the new series isn't really doing anything new.
3:53 "Both characters can leap into other bodies for a specific amount of time."
INCORRECT. Sam was not allowed to leap until he corrected whatever he needed to in history.
Have you actually watched the entire original show? There are multiple episodes in the original series in seasons 4 and 5 where they actually show the people Sam jumps into in the “waiting room” inhabiting Sam’s body. The episode where Sam leaps in to a young Al, the one where he leaps in to Lee Harvey Oswald, and the episode where he leaps in to a serial killer- just to name a few. To say the waiting room is no longer considered canon is like saying that these important episodes in the original series are no longer canon. These things didn’t just happen in side novels.They were a part of the show. They really dropped the ball on that one detail in my opinion. I’ve been bothered by it since I watched the first episode of the new series. I do want to clarify that I’m very much enjoying the new series. I just feel that if they chose to make a sequel(which is what they did) instead of a reboot, they should not be making changes to how things worked in the original. I do understand that the reason they made this change was probably because it would be difficult to explain the absence of Sam’s body in the waiting room, or what could have happened to it during the interim between the two shows. Sorry for the long comment, but I’m a huge fan of the original show, so I’ve got strong opinions about it.
Same here, huge fan of the original, and sorry for this lonlg winded speech, but I am enjoying this now new continued series but I am also still bothered with the fact that there is no mention of the waiting room, and Bellisario did not follow his own canon at times as well because it was always suggested that Sam's mind and or soul was the part that was leaping while his body was physically back in the waiting room with the other persons mind, however when he leaps into the veteran with no legs and the blind piano player it's demonstrated that he can walk and see which would not have been true if those stories stuck with the original canon, which has always bothered me to a small degree, however this whole non-mention of the waiting room in this series it's just a bit over the top for me to ignore now.
But, there was a unreleased alternate ending ruclips.net/video/N2kI5pkdEwA/видео.html that showed Al talking to his wife Beth speaking about how they were trying to find Sam but we're having difficulty and Al did acknowledge that his body was not in the waiting room and then Sam was in fact traveling out in time as himself, and I think it would have been great had they taken that clip and reused it in the new series as a flashback and then try to explain how the waiting room might no longer be needed somehow as a sort of upgrade to the system fusing the mind as well as the body.
Lastly I think it would be great if they did a call back to the actor Bruce McGill who played in the very first episode as a Air Force doctor and then who also played in the very last episode as god/time suggesting that he's been watching over Sam during all his leaps, and I think it would be terrific if they had him just in the background someplace watching Ben would be a wonderful little Easter egg.😁😁😁
The show contradicted itself but it took the stance that it was body leaping around in time... the people in the waiting room were in their own body but with Sam Aurora making it look like him when others saw him
I haven't seen the reboot, but for people that saw the original we know the other people go to the waiting room and the person leaping can go back during the lifetime of anyone that saw been leaped into. It makes sense that Ziggy could use those same pathways now for Ben.
Sam's body remaining in the present was in the original series, not just novelizations. There's an episode where a criminal escapes the QL compound in Sam's body and Al has to retrieve him.
I remember that episode. That guy was a Serial Killer. He did look like Sam Beckiett tp everyone,
@@HoldenNY22I think I forgot that one.Sounds somewhat familiar.
@@jameskilrain9350- I think the SErial Killer who escaped the Waiting room was actually played by Johhny Knoxville who became a fairly welll known actor.
That was one of THE best episodes from the original series. It had all the suspense needed and featured Al and Gushi and even an extra as the guard. It kept you on your toes.
Going back to the body argument. It wasn't just the novelizations (admittedly, I haven't read them but now I'm going to look for them). In several points in TOS, Sam's body possessed by whoever he leapt into was part of major episodes.
Keep in mind, I'm going primarily by memory, but there was one episode in which a criminal that Sam had leapt into, escaped the quantum leap facility. And if they didn't manage to get the criminal back, then Sam wouldn't be able to leap and he would be stuck.
There was the time that Sam lept into Dr Ruth... And she gave Al relationship advice. And, most importantly there was a time that Sam leapt into a younger version of Al. By the end of the episode, the solution was to have Al jump into himself to undo something that had already been done. These were all instances, where we saw the people Sam had leapt into being temporarily into the future, on screen, and in canon.
They didn't stop coming until the last episode, Sam started leaping as himself as opposed to another person. When that happened, project quantum leap lost the ability to track Sam, and they just got lucky in the last episode when they found him.
Thank You!!!
Which means he could have lept 160~ years into the future...when humanity is a spacefaring enterprise...🤔😁
I hate that the fiancé is his handler! The original show allowed for Sam to dive in the person life that includes emotions & love! This new one is no feelings or even empathy, its just blah!! They need to make Ben more involved in the person lives he jumps in including love for the people he leaps in!!!
Modern writers have difficulties when it comes to writing empathy. Easier for them to have one stable point then write full deep characters every episode. That said, episode 3 did a really good job of having an empathetic story between the brothers and Ben showing real humanity when helping deal with PTSD in a time when it was entirely ignored.
I hear you but for me it’s not enough where I feel him feeling the empathy! I think it’s his handler, I think they made a mistake in making it his fiancée! I think lazy writers, guessing it’s too much of writing for Bens emotion to expand! I like the show just need more of Ben’s character not his relationship with the fiancé!
I agree😊
Can't leap further than your own lifetime? Maybe. Can't leap further than cancelation. Definitely.
I can't remember which episode, but they did mention, in the new show, that "The Host" in the future was taking a nap (or something).
And Sam's body in the future WAS mentioned several times, in the original show, until it "was gone" in the final episodes when he was "freed" by whoever to go wherever.
3:38 'What exactly happens to the mind of the person that Sam leaps into?'.....
They leap into Sam's body and are conscious! From my memory, this was shown/mentioned at least four times in the original series.
1.) Dr. Ruth - Where Al has a session with her (in Sam's body) in the Holding Area, where he actually says the word 'love'.
2.) Vampire - Immediately after, Dr. Ruth leaps out of Sam's body and a vampire leaps in. You can see him fully conscious, walking around, showing his teeth (although for the people at Quantum Leap, they'll only see Sam!). This was the first time he leapt out of the country, as mentioned by Al in the episode.
3.) Illiterate Child Murderer - Can't remember his name, but he got hold of a gun somehow, and escaped from the Holding Area. Gushi saw him and called him Dr. Beckett. Al had to go into the real world in 1999 to retrieve him ALIVE because, as Al explained to Sam, 'If he dies, you're through!'. The murderer found a prostitute, went to her apartment and almost killed her before Al burst in to stop him. Al told him to look at the mirror, and he saw Sam's face, before shooting Al. Thankfully, he had a bulletproof vest, and later shot him with a tranquilizer. This was the episode where Sam reveals his true identity to the woman the murderer was holding hostage, along with her daughter. She was a student nurse and asked Sam to recall the names of the five lobes of the lung and the bones of the foot to prove he was a doctor and not illuterate.
4.) Elvis Presley! - We don't see this, but Al mentioned that Elvis did a private concert in the Holding Area and Ziggy was starstruck.
In short, this new series (which I have not heard about until 15 minutes ago - I'm in UK), answered a question we knew the answer to!
Note: I haven't seen the original series since they were originally aired in the UK. I was roughly 13-16 years old, and I can't believe I remember all this!
Here's how you can tell a writer (group of writers) suck at their job, an inability to work within the established rules of a work of fiction because.. Dun-dun-dun incompetence. Really wish they'd stop rebooting good shows to coast on their good reputation. FFS.
The only episode from the original that went beyond Sam’s lifetime was due to a storm that caused Al and Sam to switch places. Then they recreated the event to switch them back. Sam always had his own body. He had a daughter during a leap, and the mother saw the man Sam had leaped into.
sam also lept into an ancestor durring the cival war
@@michaelmatthews2759 Which is "farther back in time" than Dr. Seong leaped. The only way I can justify what this narrator said would be that Dr. Becket was born perhaps more than 30 years before Seong, so that Seong "went back" more years than Becket.
Imagine your wife gf has a baby that looks radically different than you do because of a leaper? In the age of dna 🧬 testing it would wreck a relationship.
@@michaelmatthews2759 I’m not entirely certain but I believe in that episode they were Civil War re-enactors
@@matthewrosenthal753 having just watched it sam leaps into the life of his actual ancestor durring the civil war
I think sometimes ppl forget that the creator Donald belassario also sometimes break some rules of his own for this show or wrote some episodes that's really weird or out of the ordinary and didn't explain it further as well. So for me, it doesn't really matter. The new writers are just trying to break the norm and explore what's possible in new quantum leap. I'm still crossing my fingers for Scott bakula's return as Sam and eventually bring him home. #bringsamhome 😂👌🙏
Including the "can't leap outside his lifespan" rule!
@@ScottKorin in the last episode of the original series, Al's uncle leaps beyond the point of his death to help out Sam.
If anyone remembers the episode where Sam leaped into a criminal (murder) in the 1950’s and the criminal with (Sam’s) body escaped the imaging chamber in the future (1997) Al had to chase him down they guy took a hostage and Al had to tell him he wasn’t him and to look in the mirror and when he did it was Sam’s body and reflection. So obviously it’s only the mind and consciousness and I wish the show would explore this and show the confused ppl back in the imaging chamber, the original show had more character (no pun indeed) The buddy chemistry between Sam & Al was way more interesting than a love interest story. I guess I’m today’s society you can’t just have two guys in a role Hollywood has to check all the boxes at the expense of great story and character arcs.
Well, there's also a time where Sam leaped in the body of a person who had their legs blown off. But Sam was able to walk. So, that throws out the idea that it's just the mind that leaps.
It seemed pretty obvious to me that it was Sam’s mind that was doing the Leaping because every time Sam looked into a mirror he saw the “host” body he was Leaping into. Same in the handful of episodes we saw Al going to see the person in the “Waiting Room” to get extra information that Ziggy didn’t have access to.
My thing is that since we see the Project so much, and the episode of the original series where Sam/Al switch made it clear that Ziggy is Voice activated, but the new series doesn’t make use of that!
Also, why is the hologram leaping with Ben? Al made it clear that when Sam Leapt he went back into the Imaging Chamber, & it took him forever to find Sam, sometimes with no information. But this Girl Leaps with Ben & Ziggy knows things immediately. I thought Ziggy was running slow ever since Magic rebooted it! I am so confused!
Rewatch the Sammy zjo Fuller episode she is Samantha his biological daughter from a leap. His seed impregnated the woman. He was a blind man who could see. Sam was a walking amputee. Sam refused to let a dr examine him when leapt into a pregnant 🤰 girl. Sam had his own physical strength when playing a smaller less muscular woman. The original concept was harder to suspend disbelief imho cause due to “aura’s” and what not and Sam is 6’ at least leaping into a boy or shorter woman but fits into their clothing.
Possible Ziggy is better now but the not speaking and interacting is glaring.
Three other issues for me is why no mention of Donna Beckett Sam’s wife, no Sammy Jo Fuller who is Sam’s daughter, and focus solely on Al’s daughter? I can see her motives being gratitude for being alive is due to Sam keeping Al and Beth together but Sammy Jo Fuller would have that motive too if she found out she born because of a leap.
Thank You!!!
She doesn't leap with Ben. That hasn't happened at all. Every episode they have to find him again and she appears to him all over again.
She seems to find him faster than Al did @@nlghtcreature22. Seems like she is there just as he Leaps in!
I think that Scott Bakula must be back to the show playing Sam of course , older than he was and there would be a million stories for him to tell about his leapings!! It would be wonderful and fans from the show all over the world would want to Watch!!!
How could Ernie Hudson's character magic be aware of Sam Beckett's leap he was in the waiting room in the present day, this new show makes no sense, perhaps the Shows writers should have watched a few more episodes of the original series like the doctor Ruth episode
talking about what happens to Sam's body and the mind of the host, it was shown on the original show that their minds were inside Sam's body (that stayed in Sam's present time). In one episode Sam leap into a serial killer and Al tells Sam that he escape (Sam's body with the killers mind), and in the Lee Harvey Oswald episode they actually showed Sam's body as LHW.
the new show has its good and bad things but there are some changes from the original
Old show had many examples of Sam physically was in the past and other person physically in the future. What everyone sees and they see in the mirror is an aura.
Sam could walk as an amputee
Sam impregnated a woman
Sam was blind man but could see.
Sam could kick a$$ in smaller weaker individuals.
I think ditching the auras and saying they occupy the same space without the past person going to the future is simpler.
@@2bituser569 No it doesn't. Sam's body was always inside the waiting room until the final leap.
I love how the new show gives 2 competing storylines. Also, explaining the experiences of the host when Ben or Sam Leaps into their bodies.
I bailed after the 1879 episode, even though Ben's solutions to problems were intelligent and well done. The "let's talk about everything except The Leap" approach to time travel was exhausting/unnecessary/The Message-stuffed. I'll keep leaping with Dr. Sam Beckett on the syfy channel.
Ben traveled back to before his birth in the 3rd episode. It was even explained that it was a safety precaution that Ben disabled before entering the accelerator.
Um, didn't the minds possessing Sam's body actually show up in the show several times?
Shock Theatre, the episode before Sam & Al traded places
Sam's leaping wasn't a mind swap but full body leaping. This is shown and explained a number of times across the series like when he leapt into the legless army vet but could walk, or the entire Oswald trilogy or how he was able to use the martial arts he knew. That last was a big one because it requires muscle memory, and if it was only his mind he would have never been successful in using it in a body without said memory.
@@merrick1588, I never suggested it was a full swap, but clearly his mind would have to be in someone else's body for him to use their muscle memory to any extent. Either way, it's a show, so the more vague on the nuances the better.
I am a huge fan of the original series and I've tried to watch this but I can't it's horrible.
Abbul, I agree with you on that. I made it through 2.5 episodes and had to stop.
Way to many extra characters dragging down the amount of story telling for the leap. Yes, the show is sci-fi....... ish... The scene's with the CGI work are down right awful.
The idea of the show caught my attention but it was soon flatlined.
Watch the rest. It takes a little time , but as a great fan of the original, I see where they are connecting. Time travel IS complicated! Even more than rocket. Science….
Give it another watch- it will grow on you!
The only thing I don't like about the new QL is that the writers & producers seemed to have missed or disregarded important back story details, such as Sam's brother coming home from Vietnam alive (probably wondering wtf happened to his "Little Brother" who warned him ACCURATELY of his death on April 8th, 1969), Samantha Josephine Fuller, Sam's "daughter" who supposedly worked with PQL after Sam changed her history, MIT's Dr' Lonegro & his lawyer wife (whom Sam saved from mob execution), and a research psychiatrist with unusual data leading to the conclusion that some "Multiple Personality" patients can manifest very detailed personalities from the future. There are others, too, and I believe these people, with "time," could figure out the truth about PQL & Dr. Beckett.
I'm hoping it starts to hit its stride soon but it is so slow and keeping these big mysteries from the audience for this long in the season is annoying.
Ummmm, what happens to the leapee was never a mystery. ???? I'm no expert, and I don't think I saw anywhere NEAR all episodes, but several episodes included the future crew (including Al) interacting with the leapee in The Waiting Room in certain special cases - I even remember they named it that. I remember one where it was a pregnant woman, and the future people had to coach her through Lamaze trying to hold things up so Sam could leap out before the birth, and there was an episode where it was a psycho/murderer who escaped the Waiting Room, and the future crew had to track him down and get him back in the waiting room before Sam triggered the leap because they didn't know what would happen if he leaped before that.
Sam leapt back to the 1800s in the episode "The Leap Between The States"
Sam went back to the civil war.
In the original show; they actually played on the idea that the Leaper and Host swap body and mind. In several episodes in later seasons, Al would interview the Host (now residing in Sam's body). I think the 'doors' Magic described was a physical door in the original Quantum Leap lab.
As far as the lost time: simple. He loses his memory of the experience as a side effect of leaping. Much like when Sam's mind goes to Swiss cheese when he leaps.
Haven't watched it and never will.....it's not quantum leap without Sam
There was an episode in the original series were Al used a lot of power to bring one of Sam’s current host threw so Sam could answer questions in court honestly
There was an episode where a woman was in an abusive relationship. She had to testify in court, so Sam asked Al to bring her into the viewing room. Sam was in the victim's body in court. As the woman victim spoke, Sam just repeated to the court what she said.
Almost right. The girl was raped by the guy in the confines of the car. She was able to escape. With Sam having displaced her, he couldn't exactly tell what had happened as he wasn't there.
But yeah, the rest is right. Al brought her into the imaging chamber with enough power so Sam could hear her and repeat it verbatim.
So who was in the waiting room?
No mention was made about the "waiting room" that the host "waited" in while Sam occupied his body.
I always thought the said the person that they leap into goes into a waiting room at the facility. I think I remember an episode where a guy escaped from the facility and Sam couldn't leap until the got him back.
The reason that they give for being able to leap outside his timeline is because Ben removed the fail-saves that prevented him from doing so, or that's what I remember anyway.
I enjoy quantum physics as a serious hobby. I feel that the Quantum Leap utilizes the same Entanglement Physics that Star Trek uses for the Transporter. This actually has been done using electrons but for a human a very large quantum system would be needed for storage of the quantum state. The body at the source is scanned at a quantum level then destroyed. Entanglement of quantum particles at the site allows for the ‘beamed’ individual to undergo body reconstruction. The conscious is transmitted via the energy pulse. In Quantum Leap that consciousness opens a tesseract which then enters the time/space continuum. Project Stargate utilized this technique for Remote Viewing. Human’s have this ability, varying from person to person.
Probability Theory (Murphy’s Law) indicates there exists a probability so remote that we can’t plan for it. It will and can happen due to the quantum state of matter. Based on that there IS a possibility based on probability that Sam and Ben could meet. I think it’d be interesting if Ben leap into Sam. That would be a real game changer!
I didn't know they were doing or had done a remake. This show came out when I was a child, but I actually did enjoy it when I got older. I would like to see what happens
This was addressed in the first episode with code entered allowing Ben to “break this rule”
I appreciate that it breaks the rules in-universe too. It’s not just an oversight or something. The fact that he travelled back further when he shouldn’t have been able to is a plot point that the characters themselves are still trying to work out. They know it shouldn’t have been possible, so clearly Ben has made improvements that the rest of the team doesn’t know about. I think that’s what makes or breaks something like this. If you’re going to break an in-universe rule, the characters should know that the rule is being broken.
The season 2 finale is them finding Sam has been leaping alone for decades fighting a shadow war against a rogue leader and cabal again leaving him stranded with all the information about the cabal
0:25 actually leaping back further than Sam’s lifetime happened 2-3x’s not once. Sam’s great grandfather in the 1860’s, Al and Sam switched places in the 1940’s, and I believe Sam went to an earlier time period in the series finale not 100% on that one.
In the series finale Sam actually stayed with in his lifetime. While it looked like a town in the old west, and the people all had the faces of those Sam lesped into, it was in fact a construct of his own imagination as he had leaped to the exact moment of his birth.
I watch the whole original series. And there were a few scenes that explain, that Sam doesn't jump into the bodies, but he only looks like that person to everyone else. (Explain in the episode when Sam first leaps into woman. AI only sees Sam as the person he leaped into, but it is still his body.)
In the episode where the person he leaped into had a missing leg, Sam didn't know that, and walked around, until Al told him. And we saw in the mirror the missing leg.
Or the episode where Sam leap into a Pregnant girl. AI keep telling him that he wasn't really pregnant. Now how the baby was delivered when it was in waiting room (then wasn't), is anyone's guess.
It was undeniably Sam's body that went leaping. But that doesn't mean the same for the new project.
Hmmm… I don’t know. There were often times that they mentioned about talking to the person Sam swapped with because they were in his body in the present
@@JerichoSteele That because it's easier to say that and not to confuse the viewers. We always saw Sam as Sam. And we only saw the other person when seeing their reflection in a mirror. Plus, he always had his male strength.
Person, I would like if better if he physically was in their bodies, because would have made better sense. It would explain how he fit into those different size clothing. But with Sci-fi we have to overlook some of those short comings.
@@Joshua-ew6ks - I think there actually was an explanation for the clothing in an issue of the Quantum Leap comic book but I can't remember what it was.
Wrong, the original series firmly established that Sam's body is in the "waiting room" being inhabited by the people his conscience leaps into. What is wrong with you people?
The biggest retcon they did in the OG series is in season on Al told Sam he is in the body of the pilot and vice versa. But in season 2 and onwards they changed it so that Sam is physically traveling but he is projecting the aura of the person he swapped with. Like in the episode where he was in the body of an amputee and walked around but no one could see his legs.
I haven’t been able to watch it yet living in Australia but I really want to. My sister and I watched the original every week and would record it on VHS if out. We loved it.
Here I am not even knowing they made a reboot lol
In the original series Sam's body was still at the Quantum Leap facility. And those leap into were in Sam's body. There is even one Episode where a person escaped from the Room were Sam's body was and tried to go on a killed spree. The new show has seamed to forget that episode of the show.
Its also 30 years later. Rules can change as tech changed a shit ton in 30 years.
I thought the show wasn't just about time travel but visiting branch realities/parallel universes.. that's how I always understood Quantum Leap.
No, it's one timeline/universe. Because in the episode where he leaps into Al. Things go very wrong for awhile. And someone else replaces Al as the hologram. Due to Al not surviving, until they fix everything.
It’s great to see the show get a reboot, given that it initially struggled in the ratings because the network had a difficult time figuring out how to explain the concept.
Leaping around in time using other people’s personas to fix issues within their personal lives, was very different from “The original” Time Tunnel, although that show did have the characters touch on their personal lives in brief moments.
You mean the current writers and actors don't have the talent of the original ?
SEASON 5, EPISODE 95 Sam leaps into September 20, 1862. Further than Ben.
I loved the astronaut episode! Her expression being "outside" was great.
Sam fought in the civil war, which is farther back then 1879
Their bodies did stay in their own time, and the person they leaped into was in their body. This wasn't merely in novels, but was shown more than once in the original series, when interviewing said person in the waiting room.
I can think of several instances, all of which, interestingly enough, we're female.
1. The pregnant woman who went into labor back in the imaging chamber. They were concerned because Sam couldn't give birth in his male body, and he leaped immediately before the baby was born.
2. The girl who was raped and Sam went on the stand in her place. She told Al what had happened and Sam recounted it as she did. It made it appear that she could hear what was going on as well, since it showed Al relaying her response to the lawyer's questions with no recounting to her the question. That was a very powerful episode, indeed, and would not have been possible if the girl had been lost in time somewhere instead of the imaging chamber.
Technically, you can't travel back in time any further than before you made the time machine. "Rod Taylor 101"!
Originally Sam leapt in, his body was in the past, but the aura of the person he replaces remains, while his aura is on the leapee in the future.
The original show was way ahead of its time. They should have had the same story but rewritten for the time we're living in now.
I've not seen the remake yet but sceptical. If I was doing this, I'd of had it as Sam's child relaunching the project to find it'sfather, this would have the easy use of DNA to extend the leap time period, a chance of including Scott B in some way and even having a hand over with Dean as Al in the pilot. I will get round to watching it but ,it won't be the original.
It’s implied that Sam is now leaping through time as himself , he is not “inhabiting bodies” anymore …
At the end of season 1of the relaunch, we see someone appear in the imagining chamber, but we never get to see who it is, any ideas as to who it was???
Look I don't care it broke the rule or not this show is actually really good just like the original and they bring up Sam Beckett quite a bit so I actually really like it for that fact alone
There's also the issue of the new Leaper's
mind alone entering the Leapee's body. Sam travelled through time in his own body, while the Leapee was transported to the Waiting Room in Sam's time. So, where in the hell is Ben's body? Theoretically, Ben's "missing body" can only survive for so long without being attended to.
I prefer this senero.
There is alot to unpack with Quantum Leap (the original and reboot). There are so many questions on both shows. Sam's actual body did in fact leap throught time. Remember that three part leap series with Abigail? How come no one speaks to the people in the "waiting room" on the reboot show? Where is the original Quantum Leap team? Where is Tina, Dr. Beeks, Gooshie, Dr. Donna Eleese and of course Sammy Jo Fuller? More importantly where is the Lothos team? Where is Alia, Zoey & Thames? We never found out what happened to Tom , Katie & Thelma Beckett. We don't know what happe6 to Jon o I know either (Kathies husband after Charles).Is Martinez (Leaper X) a part of the Lothos team? How was Ian able to leap into the past but then still go "home" in the distant future? Neither Sam or Ben are able to "go home" like Ian did, I wonder why. 🤔. How was Sammy Jo Fuller able to find her way to Quantum Leap (Original) if she never knew Sam Beckett was her father? I can't imagine a lot of people were even aware of the Quantum Leap project. I don't think the QL people put an ad in Linkedin or something looking to hire a Quantum Physista. Is there a connection between Sammy Jo Fuller and Addison? If Ziggy and Lothos are AI systems, who created them? 🤔
I wasn't even aware there was a new series 😳. I loved the original. I'll have to check this out.
Tick tock tick tock……. That’s the sound of the clock running out on the show before it gets canceled.
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NBC enforcers probably saw the success of the show Timeless. Then decided okay we got to recreate that.
I have no issues of Ben travelling to periods outside his timeline. Makes for a lot more interesting adventure opportunities to see parts of history from various lives, and Ben rewrites the code to increase the time leap. To be fair, Sam B. once jumped into his Grandfather at the civil war, so they broke the rule one time based on a genetic link to the leap.
It will never matter how many spinoffs or reboots NBC does, Quantum Leap will never be the same without Dean Stockwell, the absolute most secondary plot line was Al Calavicci search to regain his Lost Love !!!!! PERIOD
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There's actually an episode of the original television series where Al interviews the person Sam has lept into BECAUSE they ARE in Sam's body.
There's also a couple of episodes where Sam's body and Al's body swap places.
So Sam ends up back in his own body in the imaging chamber, allowing him to go home to be with his wife, and Al's body ends up in the quantum leap accelerator with Al now being the leaper.
So, that couldn't happen if the leaper's body wasn't IN the quantum leap accelerator.
My biggest hope for the show is that it doesn't fall into the same trap that the new reboot MacGuyver did-that of writing your whole plot with a huge call back to the original series, but then being unable to deliver the original star to fill the hole. MacGuyver had an enormous Richard Dean Anderson shaped plot hole in it, that of MacGuyver's estranged father, but when RDA declined to be in the new show, they had to scramble to fill the plot hole another way, and fans were terribly disappointed. I am dreading that the new Quantum Leap is following the same sad path. Without Scott Bakula coming back, it doesn't matter how good the new show is, none of its fans will ever be satisfied. Hopefully they can find a way to make it happen...
They didnt have to scramble for anything... shows dont propagate writing on hoping they can get an actor to appear.
@@DeathbySkullfxxx Normally I would agree with you about writers not propagate their plots on hope, but in these 2 cases, since both were not true reboots, per se, but with so much callbacks to the original series (much more so in QL than MacGuyver, granted), the overwhelming idea of tying everything back to Sam Beckett is present throughout almost every episode. They talk about him, use his picture, tell stories about him, etc. I'm just saying if they can't figure out a way to get Scott Bakula to be in the show, every fan is going to be incredibly disappointed.
The original QL started with the Narator saying THEORIZING that one could travel within his own life time
I remember the last episode of the original being Sam meet “god”.
Literally (in the show) the guy who is apparently god leaps him on.
Did I remember that wrong?
I was somewhat disappointed about it, but plot will plot.
Seemed as good a send off necessary for a show that found actual Steven King was haunted by the devil.
Yes, It was also a call back to Sam saying he felt pulled into the accelerator by what he described as God. That was actually a good episode, imo, and really showed Sam's true character by what he sacrificed.
@@woodcutta6461 Sam was actually in control of his leap from the moment of his birth. He chose to help Al instead of going home. Even knowing there would be no telling when or if the chance would come again. The Love of Al’s life sees Sam when he leaps back to her telling her not to give up on Al because Al is still alive. Upon her belief in whst Sam says he smiles and Leaps away.
They went back to 1972 to show the life time idea was not a rule. It prepared the audience for jumps into the future.
I watched an episode or two when it was on originally but never all of them. This video makes me want to binge the original then start the reboot.
My dad loved the original and he’s liking the reboot. It honestly annoys me that the knee-jerk reaction is to hate on reboots.
the original he leaped into hi great grandfather, capatain john beckett 1862
I'd love to Scott's character jumping past at the same the new crew is jumping in. Scott could be dressed up as an older person. He played that part so many times. 😀🤔🙃
What I would like to know is how come we haven’t seen or heard about the people that Ben leaps into in the waiting room
In the original series Sam swapped with Dr Ruth and we saw her giving marital advice to Al.
Easy answer to the question why they broke the rule is that modern day screen writers generally don't like or respect the original source material
The quantum leap reboot is still on the air.... did not know that
In the original Sam was leaping himself and looked like himself when he talked to Beth.
Huh. Can't believe no one told me they rebooted Quantum Leap!!!
I still wish that Scott Bakula would agree to come back to the show, as sam finally getting back home
Umm, it was explained that the hosts “spirit” goes into Sams body and they kept them sedated unless they needed answers…
My theory on an ending of the series, or at least a pivotal moment jn the series -
We'll see Sam, Ben will leap to the same bar Sam lepy to at the end of the original series. It is a bar at a train yard, with dozens of train tracks. Sam will be there and explain to him that them leaping takes them off of their track, though they are still tethered to it, and each leap, the changes they make can either push them further from that timeline as it changes and weaken their tether, or strengthen it depending on how the changes affect it. Sam made too many leap changes, and track changes, the pivotal one being him changing Al's life with Beth. Sam's tether to his timeline was broken, the timeline still exists, but is too far out of reach for him, so that's why he never returned.
Depending on when they do this, Ben can maybe choose to become a full leaper like Sam and go throughout time to fix mistakes, or strengthen his tether and return home.
An alternate option being to return to the past and the love he found there.
No remake or "relaunch" is required to repeat everything the same.
I have not watched the new one .. only have one question about it .. who in the new series is messing with Ben and sending him to different spots .. if it is not GOD like in the first then the show has none of the meat and potatoes that made the first show GREAT
They have in fact mention the original projects belife that God was involved, and without derision. They also covered that Ben programmed an algorithm to plot his leaps in advance to slingshot himself further back then his own lifetime to be able to reach a specific point (fingers are crossed it's Sam's last known location to search for him)
@@merrick1588 thanks for letting me know
The question I have wondered why there is no mention of where the people are going who Ben jumps into. Like in the original.
I thought it was Canon that Sam's body stayed behind. They brought up the waiting room.
What about the execution episode where the guy in Sam's body was going to retract everything so they had to wait until the switch was flipped on old sparky to leap back
QUANTUM LEAP "broke the rule" so Ben can pursue and get a lock on Dr Sam Beckett and "BRING SAM HOME."
This QL really should be the third chapter of QL considering it's been nearly 30 years and now it's back (in some form) but the "botched" original finale is a battle between the vast darkness of leaping into the beyond vs unanswered questions. Some are better unanswered HOWEVER if a sixth season had been...then how would IT end?
Would Sammie Jo return her father home only for Sammie to be forever hurled around in time.
Or is it better than Sam's home is leaping around in space and time; as it's argued that the bartender is assigning Sam or is Sam really utilizing his arguable free will.
They literally told us in the show the reason Ben leaped and changed the algorithm was to save Madison
@@DeathbySkullfxxx THIS STILL HOWEVER should be the third chapter of QL. It's one thing to have QL return but after nearly 30 years and especially such a nut job finale...viewers are split between what happened with the original project and now what Ben's doing. If there had been a second installment; the female version Pratt devised and what Sci-Fi offered to Bellisario; THAT could have handled the controversy of how the original "ended.". Therefore when PQL is reignited by Dr Ben Song (and how is his last name spelled? Song or Seong?) this third installment has a life of it's own with Ben tweaking protocols and Janis vs Beth. Janis claiming she's the best one fit for the future of PQL with Beth warning Janis. DO NOT INTERFERE WITH DR BEN SONG. (Once again THE OFFICIAL VERDICT; SONG vs SEONG)
Why is it so difficult to come out with something original new break the rules of traditional shows and movies.
Umm…nope. In season five Sam leapt back to the Civil War. It seems the producers wanted to spice things up a bit, and “explained it” by saying that because of the strong DNA correlation, that Sam leapt into an ancestor. Rules get broken for stories all the time in shows, and the OG show (which I love very much and hold dear) did it.
So I was a huge fan of the original! I really don’t like all the time we spend back in the lab. I fast forward thru most of it. I too am in hopes that they find Sam and bring him back. Originally I wasn’t a fan of the reboot but it’s starting to grow on me. Just hate the lab time.
In the original series Sam leaped into the body of a Union soldier during the time of the Civil War which was way past Sam's lifetime