The Toxic Masculinity of Ang Lee's Hulk
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In this love letter to Ang Lee's Hulk, Josh from Panels to Pixels examines the film's depiction of masculine identity, trauma and abuse, and parent-child relationships.
Chapters:
0:00 "Intro"
1:56 "Ang Lee's Hulk"
3:47 "A Classic Monster Movie"
6:05 "Toxic Masculinity"
8:03 "The General's Daughter"
10:19 "Masculinity Through the Ages"
12:58 "Fathers and Sons"
18:18 "Conclusion"
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The idea that the gamma rays just triggered something that was put there by his father's experimentation was a metaphor for generational trauma.
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lmao
no it was bc of the DNA experiments that He did on Bruce
Father experimenting on himself that he then passed on to Bruce = a metaphor for generational trauma.
Just like how Hulk in the movie is just a giant green pissed off man but is a metaphor for repressed anger finally bursting out. Metaphors are not literal and are supposed to represent something more than what they show
And the sons become their fathers. It's a loop we must break to heal bloodlines and generational trauma.
It is the best portrayal of the Hulk- bar none imo.
Not to get too personal but as someone who suffered abuse, the portrayal of Bruce’s father was extremely accurate to an abusive, toxic parental figure and the trauma and anger that can carry over as a result
At the end during the final fight when it hard cuts to David kissing Bruce goodnight gave me actual tears
idk Mark Ruffalo was a lot of fun
Actually the Incredible Hulk in 2008 is. It really shows the hulk as a force to be reckoned with and why banner wants to get rid of it so badly
@@bafoonerysamurai6911 So your response basically boils down to "hulk is dangerous" 08 is made for children. It's writing is extremely fast and easy to comprehend, I absolutely loved it when I was 10, but now I find it borderline unwatchable because of the awful cgi and simplistic writing. While 03 hulk is the opposite in almost every way, deep tones, deep dialogue, objectively great cgi for 2003 (just compare it to other superhero flicks of the time) flawed protagonist dealing with past trauma and repressed memories, Sam elliot is fucking awesome as Ross. Ang lees hulk is an allegory for real life, for passed down abuse between generations. 08 hulk is just cool?
@@Dogman171 uh no. In the comics the hulk is portrayed as a force to be reckoned with and an actual monster. Even though he is “the muscle” of the avengers, he more of a loose cannon that can fire off at anytime so the avengers don’t always trust him and even they work to get rid of it and they even do in stories like planet hulk. While the 08 movie didn’t show the rest of the avengers, it did show glimpses of how the hulk can be a loose cannon by showing him as a monster in its first appearance and how much the hulk negatively impacts banner’s life so we the audience understands why he wants to get rid of it so badly. To be fair tho I haven’t watched the 03 hulk movie since I was a kid and I recently watched the 08 movie a few months back so I have a better recollection of it. Also I wasn’t arguing for which movie is better I was just stating which portrayal of the hulk is better.
As much as I like the mcu hulk, I always wonder about the unmade sequel that would of featured grey hulk, abomination, and the leader, and what Ang Lee would spin with it.
@Drewster 🤨
grey hulk was going to appear !?
Would love to spend a day in the world where the Hulk 2, Spider-Man 4 & 5, solo Silver Surfer, solo Doctor Doom, and Kitty Pryde movies were made just watching them all day.
@@dobi287 yeah basicaly the incredible hulk (2008) was supossed to be a sequel for ang lee's hulk.
@@psmgames5861 yeah that's why they kept him in south America
When I first saw this, I thought this would be a very political video about how the Hulk is very toxic and the embodiment of toxic masculinity, but as I listened and watched the video, I see where you are coming from. Very well made video!
i mean it is, after so many ppl still dont like feminism and beleave toxic masculity exist
Even though I usually despise movie novelizations, this one caught my attention. I read that David Banner is far more callous and unquestionably much more evil than in the movie. You know something? I wish events from this novelization were also in this movie. I mean, he should have caused explosion deliberately, not accidentally. This movie would have been much better received if its plot was exactly the same as its novelization's plot.
As did I The Toxic Masculinity of The Hulk is in the Title of The review I think that this was done intentionally to get White Male Conservatives to HATE WATCH than surprise them with a thoughtful review
@@benjacarrasco9447 Unfortunately, modern day western feminists more make up problems instead of actual problems overseas such as the treatment of women in Islamic countries.
Yeah I thought the video was gonna be a woman narrator complaining about Masculinity by targeting hulk.
But I saw this and really related to it
If Ang Lee saw this I think he’d be a happy dude
This guy understood this way better then the nostalgia critic guy and now that I think about I dont think nostalgia critic understood it at all.
All I remember about NC's review is him bitching about the lack of action
Hulk is severely underrated and deserves so much more credit
This was deeply touching and very profound. I love the Hulk as a character and it's nice to see a dissection from a fresh angle. Great video Josh!
Thanks, dude! Appreciate it.
You mean from a fresh anglee 😄😇
This man gets it. Great video, really awesome to see people who understand the Hulk nowadays
Most underrated superhero flick of all time.. This movie hit me like a hurricane when it came out. I thought I was kinda alone with my feelings. Great to see there are a whole bunch of people who think alike.
I have maintained for years that Ang Lee's Hulk is a masterpiece, with only a thimbleful of the depth you express in this video. Josh, this is quite possibly your finest work yet and I love it. Deep and moving, this is exactly the sensitive exploration of character that makes you so unique. Keep being you.
Why do you like Hulk 2003?
I think was relatable part
Don't be so over dramatic
@@idiot_city5244 do what I want
"A Hulk in the body of feeble Bruce Banner"
That's a fantastic quote. Did you come up with it?
I did. That's how it feels sometimes.
@@PanelstoPixels it do be like that
@@PanelstoPixels You are so NOT feeble, Dude. :)
Please watch the entire vid people please
No
Invidente7 Then you don’t have the right to bitch and moan just because it mentions the phrase toxic masculinity.
James Grinsen True dat
@@jamesgrinsen1085 bitch & moan? I absolutely dismiss any opinion that has any of those SJW fancy-nancy trash. It's not worth my or anyone's else time.
Invidente7 Damn man, you seem like a well-adjusted person that can have rational discussions with others who might disagree with you. I envy your parents because I only hope I can raise my children to be this open to new ideas and reasonable discussion.
I’m a Bruce Banner too. Sometimes I’ve lost the battle with my inner Hulk. Sometimes it’s hard not to. But thank you for the video.
As a kid i always felt i was missing the movie's point but 15 years later i'm 25 and dealing with a lot of baggage resulting from my dad leaving us and other events that most days become extremely overwhelming and difficult. I get the movie's point now.
*By the words of Reiner Braun:*
I'm sick and tired. ...of Cookie Cutters.
MrTheodorkknight if you ever need to talk, my social media is in my channel linked. I hope you're doing better now
If dad's don't have a right to leave then why do women have right to abortion?
In a dark place right now due to an abusive and manipulative father.. This movie hits harder than it did when I was a child.
“The futility of rage.”
I love that.
Ang Lee's hulk still has some relevance today especially in the new immortal hulk run where in the book bruce was also the result of altered genetics which is anoth3r reason given to his hulk powers anyone who like this video should really cheak out the run
I loved this. I grew up watching Spider-Man (2002) & Ang Lee's Hulk on repeat as a kid. There's not many youtubers out there who could provide such a high quality documentary about this film. I love your content more and more each time you upload a new video.
Honestly this is what The Hulk really is. A man who Is struggling to maintain a sense of balance.
I get a strong feeling that those that disliked the video didn’t watch it. The title is definitely a little bit of a fire starter but the content is gold.
I strongly suspect that the Dislikes are from those who didn't understand the video...
Anyone who thinks "toxic masculinity" exists and uses that made-up term unironically is a raging misandrist who has problems acknowledging, accepting and coming to terms with the humanity of men and boys.
@@richardcoleman3425 Or maybe they did watch it and disagree? Perhaps they have a different take?
Hulk 2003 is one of my favorite superhero films. It has a few dated aspects and iffy execution of certain things - but it's so much more than a few niggling flaws. It's truly fascinating and moving.
It's a very idiosyncratic blockbuster that was allowed to be driven by a filmmaker with their own sense of storytelling and style. It's what a adaptation should be - an artistic interpretation of the source material.
I find it telling that a lot of the discourse around the film when it came out was that it shat on the comics by making the film some navel gazing art-house film and not some generic smashy-smash film. I hate to gatekeep, but this just shows me most of the people who said this didn't really understand the comics whatsoever.
Hulk has never been a mindless brute. That is how THE WORLD sees him. He wouldn't be a danger if Ross and the military took the time to approach Hulk as a person and not a monster. Hulk does not seek out conflict. He seeks peace. But conflict comes to him, and he responds in kind.
He's driven by pure emotion, so why he doesn't want to hurt people, he will fuck you up if you try to hurt him. And he never wants to hurt innocents.
Hulk 03 is very respectful of the characters backstory of trauma and Ang Lee really understood this. So many people are like "Oh why do we need all this daddy issue drama! Why can't it just be some guy who got zapped by gamma rays and turns into a rage beast!?"
And it's like...?
Hulk 03 resonates with me personally is various ways, and as I have read and more of his comics over the years, the character is one I see as heartbreakingly tragic with a lot more thematic richness, be it intentional or not, than people assume.
I love what the Hulk as a character says about how society treats the confrontational aspects of emotion - emotion people want to ignore or shun if it's not all happy go lucky and manufactured positive. Hulk is the personification of every emotion society doesn't like to confront. It goes beyond anger into misanthropy, fear, distrust, and loneliness.
Hulk is, at the end of the day, a character looking for acceptance and peace. But the world won't let him.
You have distilled what makes Hulk the character and the movie excellent, love the comment.
Damn, you convinced me to rewatch this film.
I like how this guy lights his face half green as he narrates the video.. genius
it's really tough to take a video seriously when the term "toxic masculinity" is used in a serious way but this was a phenomenal video
Sam Elliot's General Ross is my favourite version of General Ross
Funny how he was also in Ghost Rider.
Fun fact: This movie came out the day I was born June 20, 2003 funnily enough he is my favourite superhero and this film was my childhood
I love this movie so much to be honest. Also love how you did the lighting so that you’re half green just like one of the shows/movies did at some point I’m pretty sure. I can’t remember where from but I definitely remember seeing something like that for the Hulk
The 70s TV show
This is without a doubt some of your best work yet, Josh. This is insanely touching, deep, and beautiful. So much of what you said resonated with me. Well done, Josh. It’s a shame YT kept hitting you with that copyright strike. Regardless you closed out on a great note.
Your retweet brought me here. I probably wouldn't have seen this video otherwise.
Thanks
Gary King You’re welcome! Enjoy the rest of this incredible channel.
7:15 “competitive” there’s nothing wrong with being competitive, quite the opposite! Competitive makes us achieve great things. Rivals do that to us. A great example would be the moon landing.
The moon landing is a consequence of cooperation, not competition. As people like you glorify competition and individualism, our whole country fails year after year to do anything great like we did in the past
About halfway through and I don't quite get the dislikes yet. I'm an extremely conservative dude and even I see that masculinity can have its downsides. I mean that's the whole appeal of Hulk. He's this unstoppable beast who's driven by trauma caused by his father's insecurities (which he inherited). There's a psychological element to him. No matter how much he wants the pain to stop, it will never end because he himself refuses to let up. Think of Sisyphus and his punishment. He will eternally suffer because of his actions, regardless of if he "deserves" it or not. It's a fight against the past and himself, to be good when Banner/Hulk was doomed to suffer.
I think it's fine to disagree with him because no one is forced to agree, but he has been very polite in this video. It's a complex subject that must be discussed in such manner.
@@kevintanza6968 I completely agree. Just finished the video and nowhere did he attempt to push ideology onto the viewer. Toxic masculinity and femininity both exist, it's just that one is mentioned more than the other in society (the people bringing it up usually being far-left extremist). It's not like Hulk is the only character who in a way represents it either, look at Broly or Kratos.
@@chopin7572 It was much worse when the video was initially posted lol. Now my comment seems sort of pointless
@@hex8787 The notion of toxic masculinity is a political weapon by a predatory ideology founded on irrational hatred for men and boys. It is used and promoted not to help anyone but to be used as a battering ram to psychologically destroy men and boys and convince them they are defective and obsolete simply because of their sex. feminists really are that insane and hateful.
For me i just see it as toxic behaviour not masculinity or femininity
Hulk has always been my favorite superhero. That scene at the end with his dad gives me chills everytime I watch this movie. Wish more people could get into it
The term toxic masculinity was obviously coined to sow division through its implication that toxicity is exclusive to men, when everyone knows that is not true.
What is not being called toxic speaks volumes.
Unfortunately, when the term itself is challenged, men will simply be accused of being blinded by their toxic masculinity, and women will be accused of internalizing misogyny from the toxically masculine cultures their live in.
A conveniently uncontestable, circular term.
Anyway, good video about a good movie.
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Translation: thanks to the red pill content that is out there are things that men don't consider toxic masculinity and I am going to say it speaks volumes when it isn't considered toxic masculinity.
You really covered up an entire short idea was a long list of words that don't mean anything.
@@terrillwilliams1515 stop pretending to be smart - it will help you in the long run.
Everything I said was clear as day, while your botched garbage was painful to read.
@@terrillwilliams1515 who hurt you? Why are you so angrily defending a concept which is just derogatory lol
It was created by the first wave of MRAs it’s been around for quite a while. Like most words it was just unknown to the common man
Yo it's crazy I randomly had a nostalgic flashback about this movie and it lowkey is a masterpiece. It's not an easy watch and it's not meant to be.
Embrace toxic masculinity, this hulk was way better than what we’ve got now
Way to show you didn’t watch the actual video.
Masculinity isnt toxic it never
Was fearing it is the issue
The Brian banners of the
World demonizing it is
The problem.
Hulk 2003 is toxic? Then i like it even more 😈
You didn't watch the video either apparently
I'm a bit confused on the toxic side of physically protecting someone you love. Bruce becomes hulk when he gets angry beyond a certain containable threshold. Now in most Hulk representations that threshold is very high. In other words Bruce does not become Hulk if you disagree and argue with him or even in tolerable form of aggression. I believe all, not just men, break after a certain point and the retaliative nature differs across the spectrum.
Men are more aggressive but so are women when they're against women. Women tend to be docile when pitted against men. Is it because they're less aggressive or because they realize they cannot win by aggression? The docility is tactile at this point. Weaker men use this against perceivably stronger men where the outcome is quite obviously against them.
Always felt like this hulk movie was ahead of its time like watchmen
Another interesting aspect is Hulk being visually expressed though the imagery atomic mushroom clouds & the jellyfish, expressing the idea that Hulk was born out of the two greatest forces in the universe genetic & atomic force hence potential immortality & evolution, also I think the editing of showing panels is more than adapting a comic book format cinematically it expresses the different sides to Bruce
You are spot on with the strengths of this movie. I will say the Ang Lee hulk movie is missing the most important scene, being the first deleted scene, where Bruce talks about nanomeds and remembering and forgetting. Hopefully one day, an extended version will include this scene. That scene gives the movie a whole other layer of depth, and really explains cell function and how the nanomeds will eventually work in turning Bruce into the hulk on a physical level. That is the most valuable scene!
I have no gripes about the story. When Banner is exposed to the gamma rays and in his mind's eye he sees the gamma explosion from his childhood which signified the moment of extreme trauma of his mom dying, when he repressed all those memories and rage, is pure genius.
I do have 3 regrets. 1. Banner's mother dying as in the tv series, of natural causes, where banner still blames his father, would have been better - less dark. 2. The tallest bodybuilder around - give or take 7 foot tallish would have kept the hulk himself firmly rooted in reality. 3. The casting of a shorter actor for banner, aka Ruffalo, would have been better a better fit if using a bodybuilder.
But it is what it is, and what it is is an underrated masterpiece in it's own right. (So long as that deleted scene is in)
Any praise for this masterpiece of a movie is always amazing
man youre videos are getting better and better. they were never even bad to begin with !
Thanks, dude! That really means a lot.
From the bottom of (my) heart,
Thank you for making this video.
I'm in a dark place right now due to being beholden to an abusive family and society, with my father especially unwilling to accept his role in leaving me as the broken person I am now.
This movie hits much harder than it did as a child who didnt know better. I'm seeking therapy and medication right now... But what I really need is to get out of this country and start over elsewhere.
Our treatment for mental health here is expensive and not very good.
i love this video! it has me look at the movie in a whole new way, and it was a lot to think about
to be fair, you need a high IQ to fully understand Ang Lee's Hulk
No. It's just a terrible movie. The Hulk movie with Edward Norton was way more accurate, but it set up a sequel that never saw the light of day.
@@Varinz 2008 movie is not accurate at all they just copy past old TV show hulk origin not accurate at all seriously they never explain what made banner so special that he survived the gamma accident not to mention he needs the child hood abuse to create the hulk anyway
Varinz oh hell naw
In terms of accuracy, well they both kinda fail tbh. Bruce was caught in an explosion, not a lab accident. Abomination is green, Hulk doesn't change size, and Bruce had an abusive father. But in terms of a better movie, I'd say The Incredible Hulk( I love 2003 but must admit its flaws).
@@Anonymous-zd1ow hi hulk
Now do the cringe of she hulk next
Wow just wow- such an intellectual breakdown. Even down to your framing and the lighting you used in the talking head shots- the green light covering half your face- reminiscent of the duality of the hulk . Great video essay 👏
Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it!
I think I get what you're talking about- but in the same vein, I think the biggest topic that nobody reflects on is- why?
Bruce was traumatized as a young boy as a result of his father's unchecked aggression and behavior in a dire attempt to attain a breakthrough in scientific pursuits. The door itself is metaphorical. It is the emotional/psychological boundary between who we present ourselves to be(Superego) and who we really are (Id), with Bruce in between both points (Ego).
He's a deeply troubled man because he never learned how to balance all three parts of his consciousness. He's emotionally distant, even to those he cares about, and hyper-focuses on his work instead of himself. The door is always there in his dreams, taunting him, perhaps a release from all the trauma he endured as a young boy.
His first transformation is the first time he sees what's beyond- The Hulk. Years of anger and frustration, molded by neglect. His superego has done most of the molding of the lesser ego, and thus, he is afraid of what that neglectful Id wants to do.
Violence by its inherent nature is destructive. When it's aimed at an individual or a structural representation of society, or sometimes, society itself, it is far more so. But destruction or maybe, the Id, much like the wake of a floe of magma, brings growth and new life, tempered by the elements, or supplanting that with the Superego and the Ego controlling it.
Bruce only ever transforms when he loses control of his temper, when the Id wins over the Superego and his Ego allows it to manifest. Hulk doesn't really find closure in his mutation, but rather learns to accept that it is part of him. Acceptance is a healthy attitude towards negative emotions. Accepting you're an alcoholic, or accepting you've been neglectful to loved ones, or responsibilities in work and life. Growth comes out of those, and I think with Bruce, his acceptance that he is The Hulk is part of his growth. Ruffalo's Hulk also shows that the growth has taken place, when commenting that he's 'always angry'; a healthy acceptance to who he is.
I always saw Hulk as an allegory to acceptance of who you are as a person. If you have anger issues, accepting you have an anger issue and learning to handle and manage the temper is a growth process.
Tying that into Toxic masculinity, I argue that the term itself is a poor term to describe what the problem really is- underdevelopment and emotional neglect. We've all got a Hulk behind a closed door, no matter who you are. But you gotta let it in to understand what you are, and how to take hold of who you are as a person.
Just my two cents. Interesting analysis.
I really loved this film it's my favorite hulk film. Eric bana was a great Banner.
But then again, I'm an Ang lee Stan. 😁
I appreciate you for being bold enough to use the title you did in the way you did. To people pausing to comment, please seriously watch this. It’s deeper than you think.
You use the term "toxic masculinity" as if it's a real thing, you lost any authority you might have had. Along with anyone's respect. You simply do not deserve it.
@@etsequentia6765 ok?
@@etsequentia6765
The irony is the guy skips
Over the character of brian
& his attitude towards bruce
Fearing his son & mistreating
Him as a result, demonizing
& fearing someone you dont
dont understand never
Helps anyone, just
like demonizing Or
vilifying masculinity.
Speechless. That was beautifully strung together.
Damn... This video went hard.
I remember that when i was a kid, My favorite super hero was the Hulk, I never knew why, i only liked it, but when i was an adult, i had understood everything.
Thanks for the video and the Thanks for the video and for bringing back that memory.
I'm Glad to see someone else likes this movie as much as I do. Great Video btw!
Finally, someone did the video about history and psychology of the hulk. Especially, I very happy for mentioning lee, kirby and ditko run on hulk, it's one of the best comic books of that era, on the same level with kirby's fantastic four and ditko's dr strange and amazing spider-man.
people start highschool at 11 in the uk?! dang
We start high school at anywhere between 8:30 to 8:50 depending on what education board is in that sector
We turn 12 in our first year of high school
Tripsey Weener I was talking about ages. But that’s pretty much when we start in America.
OneManCheeseBurgerApocalypse we turn 15 in our first year of highschool.
We only have two schools in the UK though: primary and high. No elementary or middle, or anything like that.
Dude those videos of stan Lee explaining the hulk were in the extras for the dvds such nostalgia for me i also tough i was only one who cared about this movie. Happy to be proven wrong
You're not wrong, I enjoyed this movie too, screw the MCU.
Never been able to relate to Peter Parker, I've always been able to relate to Bruce Banner through my life, I've felt bottled up emotions being built up until my teen years where everything just released
Peter actually has that arc
I completely agree with u on everything! Every time I watch this movie I always get the chills at that scene where hulk finishes Bruce’s line “Take it all!!!!!” it was so awesome to c it as a kid but to understand it makes it that much more awesome now
The true problem of the 2003 hulk movie is that it came out to early. It was ahead of its time and nobody was ready for it.
This video finally put a shink in the MCU armour I had held up for the last decade. Especially your point about how differently this Hulk was met but the newer MCU Hulk was adopted. Had not seen it like that all. Thank you for this video, especially your PSA on mental issues men are dealing with
I clicked on your vid expecting to get annoyed however while I disagree with a few things it's refreshing to see a level headed take on what masculinity actually is rather than what it's generally viewed as. Good job sir. I subbed and will be bingeing your channel this Sunday during my hangover. All the best from Northern Ireland
Incredible work here, man! Really great video and brought up some obvious factors of the character I don't think I'd really ever considered
Another compelling and entertaining video. I wish you could make five of these a week. I always enjoyed this Hulk movie, this video makes me want to revisit it. Well done, sir.
Thanks, I'm going to try and get them out more regularly. This one was too much work.
Completely understandable, the end result shows the hard work put into it. No problem waiting though, quality over quantity any day.
The ending is so beautiful I relate to Bruce banner as well man we all have hulks within us
I've always love Ang Lee's Hulk and seeing a video sharing those thougths is great, but man your conclussion is heartwarming, thank you for this great video.
Finally someone who appreciates this movie as much as I did!
I immediately tune out anyone's opinions on this movie whenever they cite "HURR DURR HULK POODLE" as their main problem.
There are great moments like Hulk busting out of the desert base or David and Bruce's scene just before the final fight.
but nah, hulk poodle is where they choose to end the film.
And, a comic released *before this film* shows Hulk squaring off against gamma-mutated dogs right on the cover. It just further shows that those critics don't know what they're talking about.
I think that's why The Hulk being an actual Super Hero even at his most traumatized and enraged he cares about people and doesn't like to see pain in others in any way.
he takes every single thing listed here and does his best to turn it into a positive. More often than not it's Banner's repression of his Hulk side that leads to the most problems for himself.
more often then not once Banner and Hulk find ways to completely co-exist (and no that doesn't ONLY refer to Professor Hulk) is when they actually have a healthy enough relationship not only with themselves but with everyone else around them as well.
Masterful analysis and synthesis. This truly rivals any video essays on the platform right now.
Anyone else gonna acknowledge that half his face is green
bro you also needs some masculanity
Loved the ending bit of this video.
Capped everything off with an honest and sincere thought on our identity
I think Tobey Maguire and his incredible suit is the ultimate version of Spider-Man.
This was beautifully put together. Mad respect.
Thank you!
Wow.
This video was incredible. I was never afraid of feeling my emotions, I've just always been slightly afraid of sharing them. It's just me, mostly. That's how I am. I nice smile at work and in public...tears at home. Especially nowadays when my life has really hit rock bottom. *sigh*
This video definitely made me think a little differently about my favorite superhero. I like it. I really need to go watch that movie again someday...
Oh! I also liked your Hulk lighting. :)
Very cool video. Really made me think. Glad to see you still on the grind during these strange times.
This video was so fucking good dude.
You did such a good job exploring the themes of this movie. Seriously.
And your explanation of toxic masculinity, and what it is, VS what it isn't, was on point too. Great video dude!
feminism deserves to be unapologetically rejected and tossed out by society, as it is a toxic ideology with a predatory agenda. Anyone using the made-up term "toxic masculinity" unironically and thinks it's a thing that exists is badly misinformed or, more likely, a raging misandrist.
it is better the she hulk tv show
@@monsterhunter-we8lt
That show had toxic
Feminity lol.
I love the lighting. Such a simple yet great touch
I grew up both Hulk (2003) and Incredible Hulk (2008) because I got sick of those MCU fans always backlashing me just because I have my own preferences.
Man, this was amazing man.Hulk has a special place in my heart and was a huge part of my childhood, this movie was a favorite of mine as a three old kid, and still is today!!
Absolutely fantastic video. You did Ang Lee's hulk justice.
Amazing video about a great movie, and both underrated (this videos deserves much more)
This is the most thoughtful analysis of Ang Lee's Hulk that I have seen. I did not like the film when I first saw it years ago, but after this video, I see the film in an entirely new light. Excellent work!
Ayyy it finally let you post it!
Really informative, unique analysis on a unique film. Love it. Really related to that quote about wanting to be like Peter Parker when you're a kid, and feeling more like Bruce Banner when you grow up. Love the message
This was very well done bro. You are one of the few people who understand the character of the hulk and how Bruce banner's story is analogous to real life situations. Again very good video I enjoyed it.
The “Toxic Man” you say our society loves to promote as the ideal role model is often the person we’re meant to hate in stories. A competitive nature isn’t inherently violent or harmful, and neither is society’s “ideal man.”
Are you trying to interrupt the male-bashing with logic and facts? shame on you for ruining the bacchanalia of misandry.
@@etsequentia6765 You didn't watch the video, huh?
I don't know if it's toxic masculinity or scientific hubris, like the dad took it upon himself to control the situation whilst being totally ignorant of how he made others around him feel
I'm glad you made this video you should do more of these type of videos i really like them this and the body horror of superheroes video you did are really well made its nice to know someone has the same opinions and thoughts as me it doesn't make me feel alone
Blimey, Josh! That was not what I was expecting...
Unlike your previous videos, which bounce along with both insight and humour, this one is clearly a well-crafted, serious essay around the subject of defining personal masculinity, and it's possible disadvantages and detriments, as well as it's long-term effects on personal development (well, as I see it anyway)...
There is a very personal element to this video - the usual humour is toned right the way down, and there is an intimacy created with the darkened background, and the use of coloured lighting hints that there may indeed be some ongoing struggle, as referenced in your quote from Stevenson...
Your videos have always had a nice polish to them, but this one positively shines!
There is heart in it.
Thank you for this video Josh. Stay safe son, and please... More content!
Take care. :)
Cheers, Richard. I really appreciate your thoughtful and kind words. Stay safe!
@@PanelstoPixels You, and yours, fella.
Aang lees hulk was my favorite movie growing up
I love this video! Very well made and very good points. Hard to find anybody that likes this film and understands it. Thank you!
I appreciate the lighting in this video
That was honestly one of the best videos I have ever watched thank you for it!
For how "dark and gritty" superhero movies tried to get in the 2010's, none really felt so raw as Ang Lee's Hulk.
You started high-school at age 11? Damn super genius
I'm really in love for this video. The way you transcribe the ideia of everyone's internal hulks is incredible (pun not intended haha), and reliefing in a way that it's ok to be who your are, not letting this ideia of masculinity grow within you, and that I'm not the only one trying to make peace with this traits. Great video man ! It's was my first, hope to see more like this one.
Theres nothing wrong with
The idea of masculinity it
Was the very thing that helped
Men fight for the rights of
Others & stop evil its neccesary how someone
Goes about using it is
Up to the individual.
All that I could think about this is in that one show we’re the space god is crying not about dying but dying without saving everyone
This video is so perfect. Can't believe I missed out on this video for so long
Always come back to this video, it’s absolutely masterful, love it josh!
In this case, the toxicity is quite literally. Hulk emits incredible amounts of gamma rad just by standing still.