Jim Cornette on Dark Side Of The Ring's Kanyon Episode
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024
- From Episode 400 of the Jim Cornette Experience
Guest Artist: Maurice Freeman (FreeMAN) ( / the_freedom_of_man )
Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com
Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast
Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! / cornette
Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more!
You can listen to Brian each week on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com.
Anime Jim Cornette is something i didn't know i needed until now.
Imagine the racket swing 🤓
I just wish it looked like Corny...
@@clintoncox5917 yea proportions are off by alot , real cool design though. Makes me wanna see a anime intro with him and the midnight express..then fastforward to present Jim. with him Brian ,Stacy and Harley Quinn XD
Would love to see a whole anime series,based on all his wrestling stories
I miss Travis...
I met Kanyon when I was just a child in Detroit after a WCW show. He was walking back to his car from the arena. He was over with his, “Who’s better than Kanyon” gimmick at this time. He was one of my favorites back then, along with Jericho and Raven. I always root for the underdogs. Kanyon signed an autograph on our show program and was very polite to my family and I. Some things in life we never forget.
Also, fuck John Cena.
Yeah, John Cenas never done anything polite or respectful to families, especially children… Definitely isn’t a good wrestler right?
You think Cena was being honest when he said that?
@Dylan Smith Cena was a lot of things but a good wrestler wasn’t one of them….
Chris was my cousin, and I remember me and my brothers and cousins went to a Monday Nitro at Nassau colosseum, and after his match he came up into the stands and sat with us for a few minutes. He was in his regular clothes and a baseball cap. (As if that was going to disguise him. He was TREMENDOUS) when everyone around us realized it was him, they went WILD! I think I was 12 at the time. I don’t think I’ve ever felt cooler in my life. 😂 He was our hero. He brought his two title belts with him on Christmas Eve one year, and my entire family took pictures with it. All us kids literally play wrestled with him ALL night throwing eachother into piles of wrapping paper. He was the kindest soul, and watching this episode was gut wrenching. Just the look on his face when that F$CK Ric Flair said he wasn’t good enough killed me.
@@LadyFalcon17 Great story! Besides the whole Flair being a prick thing. Nice guys finish last, unfortunately.
Honestly, my favorite Kanyon program, was the "New Jersey Triad" with him, DDP, and Bam Bam Bigelow. They were awesome together! Should have had a longer, bigger run!
The triad was getting popular, so I guess Kevin Nash and the other WCW writers destroyed their little run. Bigelow mentioned it in a shoot, before he passed.
Thats my best memory of Canyon
That was awesome. When DDP held up that pic of the three it looked like they were doing “speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil”. They were such a good trio, they should’ve had a much longer run
One of the coolest group names in wrestling. Bar none
They were fun. I liked when they did a "Your mother's so fat" joke to Stevie Ray. I think people weren't keen on Diamond Dallas Page's heel turn because he was so great at being a good guy. I got a kick out of tied-up hair-era "Ya love me, ya hate me, you'll never forget me!" DDP with the Jersey Triad.
Thank you to Jim and Brian for putting Kanyon over. Gay or straight, he was one of those severely underrated guys that never truly got the credit and recognition that he deserved. He was fantastic in the ring, and he really wasn't a bad promo either. Maybe things would have turned out differently if he had gotten the opportunity he had earned many times over. RIP
Jim Cornette is my favorite anime.
Same lol
I miss Travis but this new guy is growing on me
@@jedediahcoulbourne1791 There are many guys doing those
Jim Mitchell's plea at the end, for people to get help and to help others who need it was heart breaking. I can't imagine watching someone I was that close to go through something like that.
People, look back at the 2001-2005 WWF/E roster. One of the most stacked rosters ever, kanyon just was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Even though he had a decent run being double champion.
AGREED
Tge WCW guys couldn't work the WWF style, so the company decided they couldn't work. That's why the alliance went from WCW guys to heel WWF guys.
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 “WWF style” Steve Austin vs Bret hart wrestlemania 13 is pro wrestling that would’ve worked in any promotion.
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 The problem was they were WCW guys. The only 3 WCW guys really got to Main Event status was Guerrero, Benoit, and Booker T.
@@kevinhousen2791 Don’t forget Jericho and Goldberg were in main events.
Kanyon was awesome, the innovator of offence. I liked his Mortis gimmick for that time period. That torture rack into a cutter combo on Saturn was dope ASF.
Kanyon was my favorite wrestler. The man gave so much to wrestling. He wrestled like he was on the indies. WWF definitely knew about him during the attitude era because Edge was using his moves.
He will be missed.
This guy was super talented. He was definitely ahead of this time with some of the moves he was doing in the ring. Always was a fan. Just sad though when you never really know what someone is going through that's why you gotta be careful how you treat others man. Love thy neighbor as yourself.
Very well said!
Chris “Champagne” Kanyon 🎩❤️
Mitchell looks downright Ming the Merciless-ish nowadays.
I was gonna say he looks like raz al ghul
A little like Destro as well minus the chrome head.
I always thought he was trying to look like Anton Lavey and I just looked up Ming the Merciless because you said that. He's definitely turning into Ming.
@@thegolem9325 When he had hair he definitely looked like a stock movie satanic cult leader, and yeah, he's rocking that Max Von Sydow Ming vibe now.
@@thegolem9325 - I could definitely see him being influenced by Anton LaVey especially since his gimmick is pretty much the human incarnation of Satan.
I always really liked Kanyon so it always saddens me that things were so tough for him. The first major wrestling show I went to he did his who better than Kanyon bit prior to the cameras going on and the whole audience screamed "nobody! " and he played it off really well without breaking character. Such a shame that things didnt go better personally and professionally for him.
Kanyon was at one point a double title holder, oddly enough. He held the WCW US title and a Tag Team title at the same time during the Invasion angle.
The Vice Documentary clearly explained why the Young Bucks were in the Kanyon episode of DSOTR. They were super close with Kanyon and he called Matt Jackson when he was having suicidal thoughts, the former asking the latter to pray for him because "he's gonna do it." Kanyon also worked on the Bucks' small indie promotion before. They literally dedicated a WHOLE chapter in their book in honor of Kanyon.
Absolutely enjoyed watching Kanyon. Such a heartbreaking story. I know that battle of bi polar and depression he fought as I fight it daily. It's a never ending war inside your head.
Your names rhyme, i enjoyed this, that is all. Goodluck to you sir
Bipolar isn't a real thing. Neither is depression. Nobody has Bipolar, ADD , ADHD, or depression. It's a scam to peddle med on the weak minded. Man up, hit the gym 💪 and get a girlfriend 😤
@@jeffmac9642 You try livin with the highs and lows of your chems outta whack and then come tell me bipolar doesnt exist.
@@violinfanatickamraz1403 it’s all in your head. weak minded individuals need not comment here
@@selfishstockton6123 we do hope you don't go through that route .
Man that last part of the episode with Mitchell got me so bad! You could feel the emotions. What a good friend to Chris he was.
Mitchell would be an amazing narrator for Dark Side. I like it.
@@spawnofhumanityscrimes Damn. I mean yeah, but. Damn.😆
I loved him impersonating DDP. Him doing snap Diamond Cutters on randoms was the highlight of that era.
Positively Kanyon
Those were some of my favorite moments, too.
Those were my favorites too. BANG!! 🙌🏻😂
“BRUISER BEDLAM BLEW UP A POLICE STATION!”
Brian Last’s delivery of that line made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂
I liked Kanyon. Sad that his life didn't turn out well for him in the end.
He thought everybody was going to freak out because he was gay and nobody ever cared, he died for no reason
Well, tbf, only recently have lgbtq people been so accepted. Imagine then adding in the wrestling business full of bigots. His fear was reasonable. That's the real problem. Being lgbtq needs to be accepted like brown eyes or blonde hair; a naturally occurring variation that is much more common than you'd realize.
@@savagecatgt pat Paterson wasn't just gay...he was r#@@@@ men and Vince didn't give a f####
I was 5 years old, my earliest memory of wrestling was seeing Mortis for the first time on TV. Kanyon made me a lifelong wrestling fan. If someone like him came along in this day and age (unlikely I know) they would be a star. He was ahead of his time.
I was welling up at the end of that episode. Suicide stuff always gets to me. Let the people in your life that you care about know that you love them, folks.
Kanyon didn't have a lisp per se, he had a slight overbite with a very Jerseyan accent. Either way, great take from you, Kanyon was troubled but a brilliant mind
This Dark Side of the Ring was really interesting for me. I remembered Kanyon from early WWF/E, but by the time I started watching he was basically treated like a jobber. I remembered him teaming with Chuck Palumbo for a while. It was a shame that in the end they basically jobbed out a lot of the invasion guys because in the end that was all I really remember of Kanyon. Never knew he was gay or any of the stuff that happened after he was let go by the WWE. I did remember when he came out of the box, but honestly did not realize that it was him.
Having to pull a gun on him was crazy. I get mental health but you can't just go around hurting people.
@michael murillo I believe he's saying it shouldn't have ro get to that point. Not that it wasn't justified.
@michael murillo No Im saying that I dont give a shit about mental health or depression you keep your hands to yourself. I actually support his manager doing that. I would suspect Jim to do the same if Stan or Bobby had gotten messed up and tried to kill him.
Kanyon really took his anger out of James Mitchell.
lol "i don't give a shit about the thing that causes you to behave this way, STOP IT!"
I feel so bad Chris died. I wish he was still alive cause he'd be loved
Aew
He threw himself on his own sword unnecessarily. Sorry he’s gone, but the shame would not have been as bad as he thought.
Absolutely
By guys lol
Seeing Undertaker does interviews now. Someone should ask him about that beat down.
Yes, I agree they should to see what lie he comes up with.
@Sharon Ryan that’s ironic considering his relationship with Pat Patterson and well…HBK back in the 90s
@Sharon Ryan If the episode is anything to go by, he only came out in 2006.
@@JBroughton2 Pot calling the kettle black that was. Vince runs and owns a company full of muscle bound men in tights n he's that kind of man he'd have a man blow him just due to the power he has. I think the HBK lover rumour is true. N how the fuk could he mock Kanyon for being gay when PP was dabbling in young ring boys
never thought i'd see Anime Corny
He was such a talent. A shame he had that lisp. I couldn't have cared less about his lisp but he could do so much in the ring.
Loved his team with Wrath. Liked the martial arts they added into their style, but wasn't a fan of the "Mortal Combat" story line.
I actually liked the Mortus mask, but the rest of the outfit was overboard.
I loved Mortis back in the day. His gear, entrance theme and his move set was so awesome. Always loved the Flatliner he did off of the middle rope, AKA Bret's rope. Thought that gimmick would be perfect in WWE, but sadly that didn't happened. Broke my heart to see what all he had endured, but appreciate the documentary for shedding light on it and it gives new generation of fans to see what an awesome wrestler he was. Nobody better than Kanyon. RIP.
Fucking A..Mortis was awesome and the Flatliner is better than the Downward Spiral.
Was rewatching attitude era stuff during lockdown last year and yeah Benoit is in there and some other guys who had unsavory endings , but man Kanyon was the guy who really bummed me out when he was on screen cause you knew how he met his end and it was just so damn sad. Very poignant episode of DSOR glad his story is out there and yeah Mitchell was a great vessel to tell it through.
“Who better than Kanyon?!??”
REST IN POWER 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
My new favorite artwork. Gives me anime and boondocks vibes.
Anime sucks tho
Cornette as Col Stinkmeaner would be great lol. I'm sure he'd like the Boondocks
@@Whasteen 💯
@@Whasteen How does all Japanese animation suck? That's like saying all forms of American animation sucks lmao.
@@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist Because it’s horrible hand drawn all the same garbage. That’s how.
What wwe did to him was so messed up, they could never get away with that now.
I just wanna say bro I been subbed to you for years and I love when I come across your comments on a wrestling video haha. Those Nike Dunk Lows Grey Fog colorway that’s coming out🔥
WWE did nothing to him, he sucked
@@OongTheLastAirbender obviously not a wcw fan. Mortis, Raven's flock, Jersey triad, he was alot better than when wwf screwed him
Did WWE do something illegal that we don't know about or did they not see him as anything more than an enhancement wrestler?
Yet wwe does they punish wrestlers all the time for personal reasons and its petty af..vince is a pos human being.
Imagine how interesting, detailed, & fristrating an anime would be if it was based on Jim Cornette's life
The Manga is better.
I’m surprised not many people note the similarities to Jim’s colorful suits and it’s uncanny resemblance to Lupin the 3rd.
Yes!! Especially if hot tubs are involved.
Just don't search for the hentai version
If only it actually looked like Corny...
Yet ANOTHER bad-ass piece of artwork, looks just like a comic book!
Little off topic for this upload, but Cornette's slow aew face turn. Imagine if it could've been an on screen plot with a Cornette on screen invasion angle with old school vs new school. Especially with the new signings (Punk, Bryant) real wrestling vs modern gymnastics.
It was part of a storyline with Undertaker and Bog Show at the time. Where Big Show would continue to send "gifts" each week to Undertaker in big wooden crates. One week a puppy, one week it was Brother love, the next it would be Spanky riding out on a small tricycle, and then had this one as well, with Chris Kanyon.
LOVE THIS ARTWORK!! We need more Cornime!!
I’m glad corny said kanyon was better in ring than cena. I agree
This. And, as C.M. Punk said, there is one thing that Cena is WAY better at than 99% of other wrestlers - kissing Ol' Vinny Mac's ass...
2:41 sometimes someone would get to a point of being so caring where they would not really look out for themselves. I don't really know his story all that much but hearing Jim talk about him and seeing his interviews I can picture him being that kind of guy and I love that comradery from him I don't know if he dabbled in drugs and stuff that he was on on that road it's never a happy ending unfortunately. Rip Chris and thank you. 🙏
Episode was decent. Another one kinda like the Korea one. Nothing was said in this that wasn't already something out there.
The North Korea one was baffling how Scott Norton was so shocked why they hated Americans. It's like dude, your government dropped more bonbs than they did in WWII, incinerating 5 million people, mostly civilians. North Korea was for more progressive than the authoritarian shit hole of South Korea and all that progress in infrastructure was demolished. I'm not American so it just shocked me how little an American could know about that history. Up there as the most stupid I've seen someone be on television.
@@dielawn87 it wasn’t a Korean War documentary lol
@@dielawn87 chill United Nations
I knew about the fact Kanyon was gay, and felt bullied by the Boy George skit, and his sad suicide, but I was unaware of how close he and Mitchell were, that was heartbreaking how much James cared for the guy.
Different episodes serve different purposes though. Evan and Jason were on a podcast recently (this one? I listened to a few in one week tbh) talked about aiming to tell the emotional story between the people behind the star we all know and love and not necessarily a specific event like the North Korea trip or the plane ride from hell.
I remember his interview on the Stern show and feeling for him. He was always one of my favorite workers growing up. I think you were always great and deserved a push or run as a higher level competitor, RIP Chris.
That was 1 of my all time favorite hs episodes especially when artie lost a baseball bet to him n artie had to make out with blue iris rip chris
man those were the good ole days of Stern. Artie was funny as hell.
I really like this particular art, perfect for the clip. Poignant.
I am all for free speech but I am a bigger fan of keeping my mouth shut when I have nothing nice to say. So when it comes to the guest artists supplying Corny with some really good thumbnails while Travis is sick then maybe some of you guys should do the same. Love the guest artists' work and hope Travis gets well soon
I have a suggestion. This Thumbnail's Artists, Maurice Freeman and Travis working together on all thumbnails. Travis does the concept, Maurice draws in this anime style!
"He was a nice guy, everyone loved him. But there was this one time I had to pull a gun out..."
Anywhere else but wrestling?
The Cover art upgrade is impressive on all the new Videos.
The Young Bucks were on it cause Kanyon was friends with them and helped them when they were starting out.
I think Kanyon and Matt Jackson were really close friends. A 19 year old Matt Jackson had to convince Kanyon over the phone not to commit suicide. Scary story to hear.
Too bad
Which is funny because Matt is morally against gay people....
@@jeffreyklima7612 I don't know what Matt's personal stance is but one of the biggest misconceptions a out Christian's is that we hate gay people. We are taught explicitly with no way of misunderstanding that we are to hate the sin but love the person. You don't have to agree with every aspect of someone's life to be able to still love them. You are not a true Christian if you hate anybody for any reason and sadly there are a lot of self professed Christians that just don't get this. Hating people even when they've done you wrong is a deal breaker
@@stephensanders8572 Matt is an evangelical Christian, he's been very open about that. So yes he hates gay people.
@@jeffreyklima7612 Interesting because Kenny is Bi and they come across as very close friends.
I loved Kanyon in WCW he was a highlight to me as a kid. Loved DDP and Kaynon. I am sad he ended up taking his life something tells me he would be great in the current WWE/AEW landscape. RIP Chris Kanyon!
This Artwork is Absolutely Hilarious props to Maurice Freeman this Artwork looks awesome.
Who is the new Artist? I know Travis Heckler is sick or something but I've heard around three or so different artists names but none can make up their minds about who is doing these superb pieces.
@@ProjectH1980 It's all different artists doing their thumbnails right now. You can see which artist does what in the description
@@shawn2641 I like the oldschool 80s wrestling cartoon style but this one is pure Anime which i also like. The worst one was the first Mortis and Mitchell thumbnail, lazy stuff.
@meg7393an I don't know if 60 is all that old.
How is it hilarious?
I saw that Boy George Kanyon segment live and even back then I thought it was stupid
That was a burial.
John Cena: Apologized to China over Taiwan.
Also Cena: Stabs a wrestler in back for Vince.
Jon Xina XuX
That was 2003 Cena. I don't think that version would be apologizing to China. But now he's an actor and wants to cover all his bases.
You guys act like everyone is supposed to know Taiwan is a country, this is not a history class. Kanyon was not great.
Cena was in a no win situation, also Americans need to stop acting like they’re perfect.
@@3venflow22 If youre not ignorant, yes.
The Kanyon Cutter angle was genius.
Best artwork yet.
Psychiatrist: Anime Cornette doesn't exist. He can't hurt you.
Anime Cornette:
Glad Jim called out john cena out for saying he wasn't good in the ring like come on we all know chris was the better wrestler and im sure that disappointed jim to hear cena say that cause jim always praises john cena
Sad how he passed. Going to check out that documentary now. Thanks Jim 👍
For a good period of time Kanyon was my favorite wrestler or at least one of them way back when and I'm glad he's getting some much deserved respect. I remember the Boy George thing baffling me because he was being used well before that bullsh*t!
Omg when he said Kanyon was better than John .🤣Made my day !!
The 2 aritsts need to collaborate IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Kanyon was a good worker despite what Flair said about him. And a great guy too. Made more positive actions on his finger than Flair ever had on his own body.
Kanyon was way cooler than Cena and better in the ring.
Positively Kanyon was hilarious. He was a mega talent. He was very good in the ring. He could portray many different chatacters. Could have been bigger with a little better writing & booking.
College educated, he left his career for wrestling. In my opinion, made the best choice.
Beautiful artwork. Great stuff on Kanyon!
This new art is so great. It’s so nice to see hand drawn ART, real art
I like the original art styl. But this art is damn good
The young bucks knew kanyon earlier in their career. I think they mention in their book about Kanyon hitting on them or something.
It was a tiny lisp but fuck didn’t dusty Rhodes have a lisp. As far as his New York accent I didn’t hear it but maybe because I’m from Jersey I’m use to it. This story broke my heart he was so young. RIP Chris. Who better than KANYON NOBODY!
I love sinister minister and lol at Jericho's reading ability. This was a touching dsotr
Great episode but I disagree with the last part...it's not true that the YB and Cage had nothing to say and where there just because. Cage talked about how he was trained by kanyon and the matches in the indies and the YB talked about traveling with him and him almost taking his life when on the phone with Matt...so not really there because they where fans. Still great talk (and lovely art)
I know this is said often about people, but Kanyon was literally ahead of his time. His arsenal of moves is modern, him being gay wouldnt be an issue today (Anthony Bowens, Kenny Omega [kinda lol]) he had amazing charisma and even though it isnt where it needs to be, mental health is treated better than it was in the 90's. This was a huge tragedy. Rest in peace Kanyon.
I hate depression for people. Poor souls.. .
I've said this here before , Kanyon was one of the best wrestlers to do. He used to always do really cool maneuvers and was pretty righteous on the microphone . I never understood when I was younger why he never got the big match even though he was great going back to his Mortis days . Unfortunately as an adult I can understand , but only imagine the reality of the situation . #whobetterthankanyon
This thumbnail is fantastic
Ik everybody loves the regular artist who does the art for these videos but these new guys have been great.
Is it fair to say Mitchell is underrated?
Man, that animation. I love it.
what animation? i didnt see anything moving
I think the guest artists should continue not to take anything from Travis but these are gold
You know who better then Kenyan no one he was good and ahead of his time
Nitro, Labor Day in like 97 me and my buddies were front row and my friend had a sign that said “Wrath+Mortis+Glaicer=Gay” It’s not excuse but we were 16 and this was a different era. When they came down the aisle Mortis stopped, read the sign, drew back and spit a massive loogie at my buddy. He got the sign up just in time to block it. When he came out we were horrified. It’s just horrible to know you had a part in making someone feel like that. It’s been over 20 years but it still sucks knowing the guy was suffering like that.
I do feel bad that Kanyon was hurt by your sign knowing the deeper reason for it. But a teenager carrying a childish sign to a wrestling show isn't anything to feel too guilty about. That was such a casual type of insult back then, and also one that many if not most wrestlers probably got and it wasn't coming from a place of real hate, in your case obviously.
Also, recall that wrestling itself back then included a lot gay-as-the-butt-of-the-joke angles. So it's not like a teen dude watching this stuff can be expected to be more sensitive and conscientious, lol.
(Personally, I don't even think all those angles were done with hateful intentions - more cheap and maybe tacky bids for laughs if anything. But that was then, and our culture has moved on a bit from that now.)
I was at a WWE show once and Mortis was the dark match! It was SO random. But I think if he could’ve gotten a serious run in WWE as Mortis I think it could’ve worked.
Well he was originally supposed to return as Mortis actually, and how was this planned?, If you look at the SmackDown Magazine from 2003 its shows a photo, information about him returning
From the Looks of Things, Heyman Was LEGIT Horrified by the Amount of Abuse 'Taker Put on Kanyon
I guess Jim missed the part where the Young Bucks talked about their relationship to him, including a very dark part about a 45 minute phone call where he was threatening to kill himself to one of them. They definitely had a personal connection of sorts.
BEST THUMBNAIL YET
Holy shit, this artwork is awesome. Very Bleach like 👌🏻
VO requires a pace and a cadence. Sometimes, yeah, it gets in the way of sounding natural or enthusiastic.
Flair has a lisp, Dusty had a lisp, I'm sure others had lips too
I was shocked John Cena said Kanyon was not a good wrestler. His face while he was saying it wasn't selling it. Terrible they would 💩 on Kanyon.
The artwork is so awesome, I cant focus on listening
Kanyon was one of my Boyz. He was a guy I grew up watching. He was amazing could hold a Intercontinental Title forever on my card. WWE or WE would bring him back and do what they did just for the simple fact at look how they have handled other talent and how they treat them before they go!! It's wrong. Innovator of Offence R.I.P ✌️💐
Anime Jim Cornette tho. RIP Kanyon
Lol holy shit anime Jim Cornette
9:51 there's our little tax deduction😂😂😂😂
Just hearing Jim's voice crack as he started to talk about the Boy George skit
A lot of Kanyon's erratic behavior was a heavy case of bipolar disorder. I have known people, including myself, who have exhibited similar behavior.
If the bipolar is not maintained or even misdiagnosed, then there can be severe consequences for not only the person but people around them.
I can't imagine what it was like for Kanyon when he was on the road and he might have been having a manic or depressive episode.
Jericho is great as narrator
On Twitter I seen Raven giving out he wasn’t on the show ? Said they were best friends …
I’ve no idea just thought it was interesting ..
The Canadian Tax Break ~ Jericho's new finisher