@@tharealest8190 JR actually rarely speaks ill of anybody which says a lot the Warrior if he buried him publicly especially considering the Warrior died. As for Vince he's kind of a mixed bag. There are times when he's great to people and there's times when he times where he treats them like shit.
@@Adrian21 no Vince used to DOG jr ass out you really need to go look at the videos where it’s recounted how Vince used to call jr deputy dog and LAUGH at his Bell’s palsy . Jr is a COWARD for talking shit about warrior but not calling out Vince that was abusing his scary ass
Heenan got the last laugh... 👍🏿👍🏿 I Liked Jim Warrior.. but after years of studying this dude he should have been a heel cause he's a natural heel for real and could have made millions from it..
@@kenrickkahn He definitely wouldn’t have made millions as a heel the way he did as a top face. Top heels almost NEVER make anywhere near the kind of money a top face does, especially back than, when the WWF was primarily viewed by kids. Because kids wanted to spend all of their/parents’ money on their toys, shirts and everything else of their favorite heroes, NOT their favorite villains. Speaking as a child back than who had everything Hulk Hogan at one point from action figures to lunchboxes and backpacks, I think I know what I’m talking about here. I’m pretty sure Warrior knew that too, hence why he rejected the idea HIMSELF when Vince wanted to turn him heel around 1992 (the whole storyline of who signed with Mr. Perfect from Summerslam 92).
@@kenrickkahn I get where you're coming from but imo nah, he was saying this stuff in the 2000s. The 2000s already had an awesome conservative themed heel gimmick John Bradshaw Layfield; except JBL was real life millionaire, published books on the stock market and was a pundit for Fox. AKA say what you want about him but he wasn't a total dumbass like Warrior and had a real life background that made the gimmick work better. Lastly, JBL was a dope promo, Warrior was barely coherent. He would've just been a racist, homophobic and sexist version of JBL.
“I know you’re not supposed to speak ill of the dead, but I’m going to speak ill of the Ultimate Warrior because he was a f-king CLOWN.” - Jim Cornette
Lord forbide something happens to me but if it does I want Jim Cornette to eulogize me by saying these exact words, throwing a few f-bombs and then tossing his memo notes as he leaves in a huff
@@gordonirvine726 But also to be fair Warrior did mess up Heenan's neck more and Heenan was also relaying what other guys, notably Andre, had said about working with Warrior not just saying his own opinion. I've seen that story about Andre basically knocking Warrior out mid-match for working too stiff repeated by others (who obviously could have got it from Heenan in the first place will admit) but I have seen quotes of Andre's daughter saying he hated working with Warrior and really didn't like the guy and if Andre, generally talked about as one of the nicest guys ever, felt that it says a lot. Am pretty sure I read a quote about Warrior making fun of Heenan's appearance after the reconstructive surgery on his jaw so I mean for that and everything else Warrior ever said just no, he deserves whatever anyone has to say about him.
What unforgivable sins did Heenan commit against the Warrior? Well let's see... Bobby Heenan: - Had talent - Could work his ass off - Could cut an amazing, comprehensible promo - Was loved by almost everyone in the wrestling business - Was one of the smartest men to ever grace the wrestling business - Wasn't an asshole in real life (he only played one on TV) Am I missing anything?
@@nevermorenovelist great comment. Bobby Heenan had more talent in his little finger than Warrior had in his whole body. Bobby Heenan forgot more about the wrestling business than Warrior ever knew. Warrior was also very stiff in the ring and genuinely hurt Bobby Heenan's neck, due to being careless, unsafe and uncaring about the person he was working with. It was great to hear the story about Andre stopping his nonsense when they were working house shows in the late 1980's though!!
@@sc30002001 they didn't look anything alike, WCW just used him because they were attempting to get him to sign in 95 and kept hinting at an ultimate surprise but by the sounds of it they were doing that before actually talking to him so they found someone to dress up like him and he debuted in a way to try and make people think it was him. But when you actually looked at him you could tell they didn't look anything alike.
“I don’t know if she’s out there booking any hot finishes” got me so good. Just the thought of Dana Warrior knowing to suggest anything other than “how about he runs to the ring really fast” is hilarious
Wwe still put him in the HOF with all the shit he said? Why have someone like that on your program? Terry didn’t go this hard and wwe dropped him quick. Fuq the warrior!
Jake probably lied. But Warrior might have gotten the belt back at some point, if he had stayed in WWF after Summerslam 91, who knows. I remember speculations about plans of Warrior becoming champion after Summerslam 92, and around Summerslam 96 too
I recall in the late 90’s or early 2000’s seeing on Warrior’s website that he was offering to make personalized workout instruction tapes, and not only was he charging an arm and a leg for it,,he also wanted you to send him bare chested pictures of yourself. So far as I ever found, only a (very) few people actually sent him money and never got their tapes. The guy was a carny grifter, so little wonder he found success in wrestling.
I remember that. It was overpriced and the whole barechested photo thing sounds like his gay desire coming out. Apparently his whacked out comic had male bondage scenes
@@EarlFaulk he released a “special” Christmas issue that was just pinup art, no story. One such image was Santa, ko’d on the floor in his underwear, an empty bottle at his side while Warrior looms over him, yanking Santa’s breeches onto himself. The idea seems to have been that Santa is out of commission so Warrior has to fill in for him. The imagery makes it look like Warrior spiked Santa’s drink and had his way with him. But you know Warrior blamed the comic book’s failure on “the man” holding him back.
I know what you mean. I did a review of this episode on my channel. Even I was like really? This is what warriors other wife was so offended by. Warriors first wife seemed quite fair if you asked me
@@Leftturnaddict Yeah, I will say when the first ex-wife gets involved, my natural thought is she is going to bury the guy eight ways from Tuesday and tell a lot of crazy stories to make herself seem more important but she actually humanizes him far more than I expected. The A&E one does a very slick job of spinning some of the controversial comments Warrior put out that Jim is covering here and does an overall more thorough job in telling a compelling story of his life and career.
When your ex is bitter and berieseln you...bad...when she is over you , just states the real flaws why she had to leave...fair but bad kick in the nuts
You could tell his first wife really loved him and was crushed when she found he was cheating on her. I felt bad for her. She did a great job humanizing Warrior.
Highly agree. I think he honestly needed that after all the shitting on him all the time... It's nice to hear about the other side of a person with his "qualities"
Funny how he lambasted MLK Jr. for being an adulterer, and yet he was the same, many times over, and ended up with a woman who seemed to not love him at all, and made him more miserable, crazy and cruel…
@@hahajonesI'm still waiting for those photos, recorded calls, fingerprints, DNA evidence, illegitimate children (you know actual PROOF) that is released from the FBI other than just "trust us, we know" about Dr. King. A racist cross dresser was the head of that agency & would have put those things forward, immediately, if it could have stymied any movement Dr. King had in those days. Idc how many Anglo Americans try to repeat that talking point with nothing more than the hearsay of what the racist, corrupt FBI said decades ago. I believe what I see, especially when it's a figurehead as renowned and powerful as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was and still is to this day. They were literally were spying on that man & had the federal government behind them & they've not shred one bit of evidence to support those claims.
Often Corny just goes off on conservatives for no good reason but Warrior made many conservatives look bad in the 2000s. I would love to see Corny sit down with a Ben Shapiro or similar figures and actually discuss their differences vs Corny's rants about "Orange man bad and all conservatives or religious people"
@@mattm7798Shapiro was a two-bit writer for a right-wing blog and abandoned all of his "conservative values" to cash in and fleece the orange cult, which is not classically conservative in any way except for their fear of racial and gender equality. It's hilarious that you consider him some kind of legitimate conservative philosopher.
@Poopmannn their homes were COMEPLETE TRASH before. U wouldn't live there that's for sure. Filthy dirty and falling apart. They didn't fix or take care of anything. Sorry, but it's true. I know the truth is beyond offensive and can get u in alot of trouble these days, but yea it's truth. The hurricane gave alot of them new places when they got back and I was just there 5 years ago and if u could see what they have done in a short amount of time u would understand the frustration. They have trashed it all up again from BRAND NEW!!
Bobby lived but just as a shell while Warrior lived a beautiful life and was in amazing physical shape even in his last days with his family and made amends before passing, Warrior wasn’t lying about bobby.
I honestly don't think that the dark side episode really buried the ultimate warrior. There were guys in the business who told their side of it, but his ex-wife didn't really go out of her way to bury him. Overall I would argue that the dark side episode was a little more positive, because it portrayed a more full three-dimensional human being.
@@Nick_Barone why are people automatically believing Warrior over the wife? He wasn't exactly an honest person. She could have been some moderate church going conservative, and he fell into the deep political stuff on his own?
Dark Side Of The Ring does mention Bischoff's idea of sending some of the most iconic as well as up-and-coming WCW talent to an event in North Korea back in 1995 of all places.
I read somewhere years ago that Warrior's brother posted online, that the only reason why Jim went back to the WWE was to save his marriage with Dana. His brother said that Warrior was in financial trouble and Dana was ready to divorce.
Interesting info. JR talks about during the HoF induction, it was all smiles and hugs, but the Self Destruction dvd hung a dark cloud over that weekend. That makes more sense, he wasn’t over anything but showed up for a payday and save his marriage.
@@savharris5702 I can still watch UWs matches and be entertained , just like I can watch Radar on MASH even though the cast had issues with him behind scenes
After listening to this bs, I'm ashamed to have been an Ultimate Warrior fan as a Black man. I wish he would've had the privilege of crossing a prime New Jack back in the day. Smh Fu-- Ultimate Warrior
Even worse, the award's concept was originally supposed to be for behind the scenes employees of WWE, like seamstresses, producers, merch people, maybe even Kevin Dunn. That's what Warrior wanted the award to be. Instead, it became a fauxlanthropy award
@@SmithCommaBenjamin Yeah, he said as much in his HOF speech regarding all the people behind the scenes that make the show run, who never get recognized by the public. Ofc WWE being WWE, took that concept and turned the Warrior Award into an annual, high profile virtue signalling publicity stunt, where they can exploit the misfortune of courageous individuals just to garner good press.
@@pisto30 I think HHH and Stephanie founding Connor's Cure as an organization for pediatric cancer research in honor of his memory was an appropriate endeavor and one of the more sincere things to materialize from the Warrior Award. I'm all for either renaming the Award or refocusing it to what Helwig suggested it should have originally been. Personally, I'd prefer they not rename it after Connor only because it always felt like soulless, exploitative, corporate grandstanding in the name of good public relations. Connor deserves better than that, and his foundation honors his struggle and legacy every day by helping sick children in need.
I'm curious if the words that Warrior wrote about Heenan were before or after that self destruction DVD. (For the record, I met Bobby after the cancer had taken his voice. He treated my older brother like they had been best friends his whole life. That is still the best memory I have of that weekend.)
It was after the DVD. Everyone who participated became extremely hated resulting in Warrior lashing out big time. Vince, Hogan, DiBiase all got similar treatment as Bobby did. That DVD, like his wife mentioned, broke parts of him that were never fixed. It's been made pretty clear that Warrior had a lot of deep rooted issues with himself. He was troubled, defensive, mistrusting and angry. His issues don't excuse some of his behavior, but it helps make sense of his actions.
A significant number of steroid takers, up to 70% I’ve heard, either don’t even work out or don’t work out like a maniac. When you work out like a maniac, the roids take care of your body’s recuperation so you can work out sooner and harder.
The biggest weakness of the Dark Side shows are that the are only one hour, which means they are about 45 minutes. The two best ones might have been the Benoit two-parter and the Brian Pillman two-parter, because they were two episodes. The two others I really liked were Owen Hart and the Von Erichs, because they focused on the redemption of Owen Hart and his wife's aim to keep his memory alive and Kevin Von Erich. They had a narrow focus.
The Von erichs was dark side that's for sure and it could have been 2 episodes but I don't think it would have been nice to continue to ask for more from the only living Von Erich left. He gave what he could I think and for him to continue to provide more when he didn't look well but says he's happy with his life I think they did what they got was just enough
I'm 38. Warrior was the thing when I started watching wrestling. I thought he was shit way back then, when the gimmicks were probably what hooked me in, over ring craft. As an adult, I love his mental promos. His Wrestling skills were abysmal.
Fantastic art by Travis once again. Jim's look of utter confusion absolutely nailed it. I remember reading the first Warrior comic book...or trying to, anyways, and just being absolutely baffled by it.
@@mctavish4496 In my defense, I was a teenage comic nerd, and I think it (the 1st issue) came free with my sister's subscription to whatever the WWF magazine was called back then. It was the epitome of 90s comic art style. It looked cool as all get out, but reading it was another thing entirely. Didn't make a lick of sense. I remember I was genuinely curious about what the story would be about. So, not knowing I was opening a tome of madness, I picked it up, began reading...and im not sure if I even finished the entire issue. It was just, I dunno, incomprehensible. Maybe it all made sense in Warrior's mind somehow but it definitely flew over my head. Now I'm genuinely wondering if I am the only one who tried to read it. And also strangely tempted to see if I could dig it up from my old comic collection to try reading it again, just to see if it's still as out there as I remember it.
I remember comic reviewer Linkara ranking it as one of the worst comics he read for his show and saying that maybe he needed to get “Folked” to understand it
I agree, was possibly the most 'surface level' dark side out of them all.. Basically nothing of note was said except that he wasn't a great wrestler over and over 🤷♂️
I think so too the only thing we learned about the dark side of the ring was his ex Shari Tyree who was his wife throughout his journey in his adult life. She knew who he was back before he went apeshit crazy egocentric.
Talking about what a colossal asshole the Ultimate Warrior could be has been done to death, so as far as I'm concerned, the producers were smart to approach it from a different angle. It's not even that they avoided talking about his failings, but bringing in his ex-wife really added a layer of nuance and emotion I wasn't expecting. Don't forget that the Dark Side in Dark Side of the ring could mean more than one thing. It could mean the seedy, bad side of the industry, but it can also just mean the story less told, and in Warrior's case that story is, at this stage, that he actually could be nice once in a while.
I think the episode did what it was supposed to do. It peeled back the layers to get to the source of the man that was Warrior. When his father left home when Warrior was a kid, it shaped who he would then become. It told him early on that only he couldn't rely on anybody but himself, it made him wary & insecure of everybody. This is probably why when Warrior entered the business he marched to the beat of his own drum, he saw quickly how many workers would bust themselves night after night for chicken feed and he knew then that rather than the business working the talent, he was going to work the business. He didn't care about being "one of the boys" he wanted to carve out a lucrative career for himself out of fear of being let down again and send back to poverty. When you look at how much talent from the 70s & 80s became broken men in wheelchairs in destitute poverty. In some weird way, what Warrior did.. has to be respected.
I was a huge fan of Warrior growing up but as I got older and understood the craft I eventually saw that he wasn't that skilled or great in the ring then with his comments in the past I really thought less of him as both a wrestler and a person. Even though I thought the burying of Warrior in the WWE dvd was kind of shitty I agree with what Booker T said recently is that they weren't actually wrong. RIP but people shouldn't have to sugar coat him.
The craft was entertaining the crowd which was filled with family’s not wrestling enthusiasts. Warrior was miles ahead of everyone in that regard. That why were here talking about warrior and not those other bums.
In the end its a story that's as old as time in the entertainment industry when someone has fame fortune and success is thrust upon someone who isn't ready for it and can't sustain it for a prolonged period of time: Too much, too soon and nowhere to go but down.
Yeah. Warrior abusing drugs, steroids, being unfaithful on the road, refusing to speak to/sign autographs for young fans, and having a big head, THEN proclaiming he's some kind of role model...irony at its worst
@@georgefrancis8602 lots of wrestlers have cheated if were going down that road......UW was right about Ted , heard him and Ted Jr scammed MS welfare money. Andre also refused to sign autographs said Iron Sheik.
They really should make a comedy biopic of Ultimate Warrior starring Ben Stiller. If you've seen the movie "Heavyweights" you know he would be perfect. Plus, he looks like him too.
I remember being like 10 yrs old my stepdad at the time had me watch the self destruction of the ultimate warrior DVD. I couldn’t pay any attention I was blinded by how cool I thought he was. As I got older I saw things on the internet of him saying wild shit. I just can’t believe someone can be so overly unpleasant.
I had a thought that maybe he tried to dabble in same stuff that he used to do before going to the ring in order to get himself hyped up & it didn’t go well, but it’s just a thought.
@@steveknick1978 I mean, it is weird that it happened so accurately on that time. But then again, roids gave him the short time clock. THIS is why I shit on people who try to call steroid use as just recreational and not a "serious drug". It's serious alright, dead serious 😐
@@shindean Almost all wrestlers back then did steroids at some point. In Warrior's case, it was more his family history and probably the meticulously diet to stay ripped. It turns out that diets super high in protein and low in complex carbs shorten your life span. Warrior would only sniff carbs.
It's said that before judging someone, letting them tell their side of the story is important. Unfortunately in the Warrior's case, his own words confirm he was a complete douchebag.
Yes, the could have gone into his questionable "motivational speeches", all of his attempts to grift fans, that video about Macho Man right after his death that turned into some rant against Hogan and finally get sued by a fan for fraud.
That shoot on Hogan was a proper burial. Warrior meticulously buried Terry Bollea like a surgeon at work. I would love to see a documentary on the speaking of the Warrior. I still listen to that Burial Of Hogan occasionally, he was a good promo
Most people with a strong desire to be famous come from a wacky background, where they didn’t get enough attention/love as a child. Those circumstances create famous people who might not have the best odds at turning out to be high quality individuals.
@@fernandoguajardo2750 that’s where I saw it. It was a compilation of wrestlers doing shoots on the Warrior. Most of them just said he was an asshole, but the Sheik went that extra mile, as usual!
@@SteelSunday I’m not sure, but I think that was why Sheik was mad at Hulk Hogan. There’s *tons* of reasons that virtually any wrestler would be mad at Warrior, however.
I remember reading rumors, supposedly from his early days in the business, that Warrior was a rent boy on the side. And I've seen a couple of shoot interviews where it was mentioned in passing that he had sex with other men. So there's that, take it for whatever it's worth to you.
A lot of his stuff is not available through Wayback Machine. Someone from Warrior's company 'Ultimate Creations' filed a DMCA takedown notice against Wayback Machine, and threatened to sue them for copyright over their archive of Warrior's website, including the blog where he wrote a lot of this heinous shit. There's been no test case for this kind of claim. So even if the people that run Wayback Machine thought they had a chance to win, it could have been incredibly drawn out and costly. Which when you have Dana Warrior, and WWE wanting to make sure that part of his legacy is erased to exploit his name for awards and other publicity events, then that's a pretty big ask of anyone to take on.
@@bloodangel13 They will be plenty of people who have screenshotted his rants and saved his videos, and after this doc and the other one someone will leak it out. If someone who has bad stuff in there life and then someone is hiding it or trying someone will come out with that stuff they were trying to hide just prove
No kidding. I mean, I'm 37 yrs old, so I adored the guy as a kid...but it's not hard to figure out that the dude was an unapologetic piece of garbage in real life.
Gotta hand it to Jim too and I think more people should take note, is don't change you tone or opinion on someone just because they passed away. I think it speaks a lot to a person character when they try to change their attitude and feelings towards someone just bc they passed. If you felt like they were an asshole, then continue to feel that.
Wow...I could cry if I could to the things Jim Helwig said and wrote about all of those people. I'm a Union SAG-AFTRA actor/performer and the roles we act are like wrestling characters - they are just characters, NOT real life, aside from those like the Von Erichs who did not need gimmicks to be a character other than themselves who did great in the day. Aside from that, we are actors, just as wrestlers are actors in a similar way, only they are great athletes. I am straight and can care less what others do in their lives because the gay community, or bi community, or what have you do not effect my life in any way, and I have no problem with what other people do - just as long as they are nice then that's all that matters. Everyone has an opinion, but WTF was Jim thinking when he went on a bipolar tirade bashing gay people!? And the things he said about Bobby "The Brain" Heenan was heart breaking. What the hell did Bobby ever do? I almost wished I didn't know these things, but I'd rather know and not be ignorant of this craziness with the things he spewed...like MLK and how Jim bashed him of all people! He was a hero and more courageous than Jim's imaginary alter ego ever would have been if he were real and not some comic book hero....what the flying shit was he thinking!? MLK was a hero, he was beaten, jailed, shot at and yet he did not let those stop him from his dream. I'm a red skinned Pawnee and was not around in the 60's by any means, but that man was a damn hero! WTF Warrior, what the hell was he on when he said those things? And what the fuck is destrucity!??? Sounds like a dick pill!
There was no roll of quarters. That video of Jake and Warrior interacting for the first time at the hall of fame is on youtube. Jake looks incredibly happy to see him lol.
i think there was legitimate heat. I mean ffs, Warrior literally cost Jake thousands and thousands of dollars. But yeah i think Jake was bsing about the roll of quarters...however I do think sometimes all that's needed to disarm decades and decades of bitterness is just talking man to man and working things out
I discovered the letter he wrote Bobby Heenan years ago, and this isn't pardoning his other rants, but reading THAT! I was all set with this Ultimate PIECE OF GARBAGE!
@Cee Wil Eric Embry talked about it in a shoot interview and I was told that twice as a kid but 2 adult wrestling fans so I just always thought it was true
People who are obsessively anti-gay and talk about gay people all of the time are usually closeted gay straight men who are secure in their manhood and love women don't give a f*** what another people do in their bedroom if a guy is gay that's just more women for me.
@@thesupervisor3270 bingo they say all of that stuff because they're trying to suppress it it's like they're trying to talk it away but it comes out eventually I wouldn't be surprised if some dude the ultimate warrior was banging got paid off to keep his mouth shut.
The fucked up part is that if Warrior spit these promos and had a more bare bones early 00's gimmick, he'd have been over as a massive heel. Like, imagine him as some warped crusader for moral purity, in the vein of Bret Hart, and you can see what I'm angling for. These promos are INFINITELY more coherent- albeit unfathomably more detestable- than ANYTHING he ever cut in his career. But, on a serious note, Warrior was a grade A bastard.
The WWE already had a few of those types of gimmicks - Kurt Angle, Right to Censor and heel Backlund. Plus they had late 90s Bossman who was just going around being a massive asshole feeding Al Snow's own dog to him, or dragging Big Show's dad's coffin behind a cop car. WWE had most of that ground covered.
I call it the GTA syndrome, where the overwhelming amount of content to indulge with means other large portions will be left out. It's a testament to how unbearable this guy was as a human being😕
@@zachary_attackery I'd say Darkside of The Ring filled in the gaps. I knew DOTR was gonna be less sterilized. Cornette's not worried about a filter when it comes to his opinion, so I knew I was going to love it.
Good lord. Some of these Warrior quotes are fucking brutal. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how Cornette's career long fanbase, notoriously Republican, can manage to separate the egregious political differences between Jim and themselves, when they are completely unable to do so in any other capacity on this planet.
While Jake's timeline claims seems off, don't forget Warrior was also feuding with Taker in 1991, maybe the original plan was for Hogan to drop the belt to Taker at Survivor Series (without Flair's involvement as him jumping ship to the WWF may not have been a thing at that point) then Warrior taking it off Taker to feud with Jake. Then again, with the conflicting stories Bret and Hogan have told regarding the championship in 1993, it might just be another case of Vince making empty promises leading each person along.
I remember the bodybag match between Taker and Warrior. July 1991 I think it was. I remember Taker putting Warrior in the casket as well, which had big scratches on the inside of it, to indicate the desperation of the Warrior trying to escape.
I agree with Brian, the episode lacked focus. It's supposed to be the dark side of the ring, we dont need his bio or even his WWF run. Theres nothing "dark" about those. The dark side was his post wrestling life.
@@gordonirvine726 He put up his WWF Championship belt from 1990 for like $20,000 or something on eBay. Someone DARED to question the authenticity of said title, which prompted the aforementioned rant in the item description.
Bruce Prichard and Conrad were talking about the Warrior vs Slaughter match. Bruce was made that Uncle Dave called him the Anabolic Warrior. Bruce: Who does Meltzer think he is? Conrad: Are you going to pretend Warrior didn't use steriods? Bruce: I don't know that he did.
People kill the wwe for the "self destruction of the ultimate warrior" DVD, but that's exactly what happened.. the guy self destructed.. he was a pain to deal with.. its hard to do his biography without having to speak on all the negatives in his career
I am now definitely waiting for the extended cuts if they felt they went too soft. I'm sure that's gonna be the crux of any supplemental material. They definitely erred on the side of caution and wanting to be balanced. Nothing on steroids at all? And what was with both the A&E and DSOTR skipping the WCW run?
They skipped it for on DSOTR too? That's disappointing. Though then again, they didn't cover Owen's life and career pre OTE 99 either, and I felt it coulda been a better documentary if they had. Deserved 2 parts I'd say, at least covering from the time Bret left/The Montreal Screwjob to the end, which if I recall they didn't do.
@@ajk DSOTR honestly suffers from going back and forth between documenting incidents and their impact (Owens episode, Brodys murder, Montreal) to trying to bio wrestlers (at least their career) as completely as possible(Pillman, Warrior, New Jack). I find myself enjoying the incident based ones better for that reason, as unless they go two hours like Pillman, lots of stuff will get glossed over or omitted. Hell, I was shocked last night that the Mick Foley A&E bio blew by his title win and didn't even mention the WCW misfire. Considering it's coproduced by WWE, that's surprising. They usually don't miss the chance to remind people that was the last time WCW led in the ratings.
@@inarar5334 That IS surprising on the Foley show......unless they were trying to come at it from an angle beyond what most already knew, given how much that story has been told over the years. I could maybe see that, but even so, that's an interesting choice. Am sure they coulda found a unique, fresh way to retell the story if they wanted to there. And in regards to DSOTR, that makes me think that making them an hour long as a rule mighta been a mistake. Seems to me, 2 hours woulda been better to allow for more depth. Most WWE documentaries for example are at least that long, some even longer than that, and these A&E ones in looking not having really watched any of them that they've ran honestly to date, are also. An hour would seem to be too short.
@@ajk considering they didn't shy away from the constant "you'll never make it" stuff heard from people like Flair and they even had Vinnie Mac not only admit that it took him awhile to come around on Foley, but he also was quoted as saying when he signed him it was basically to get JR to stop bugging him and he actually said he was hoping he'd fail miserably so JR would know that felt. So to skip WCW announcing his win, especially with the infamous butts in seats crack, is really weird. It's the ultimate example of how damn over and beloved he was.
I vote Red and am conservative, I like Jim Cornette's podcast for the most part. Love the wrestling don't care for his politics but hey that's Jim right? To me what Warrior said in that stuff makes no sense to me. The only thing I can get is the idea that people who didn't care about their stuff complain and get free stuff. I can see some people doing that but not everyone. Families make the world work for the future. Other than that, Nothing he said matches my values there. I am for Homosexuals or anyone doing their own thing. Just don't infringe on my right to do my own thing. I loved the Warrior as a kid. He was really like they said a cartoon come to life and could come to your town. Warrior I truly believe learned a lot of lessons in life and it took a hard long road to get there. He wasn't perfect none of us are so let the sinless throw the first stone at this glass house.
@KaneMagus I don't think they are telling them what to do with their body's, just that whatever they choose to do will not be paid for by the taxpayer.... Pretty reasonable. But I do hate how those GOP people keep forcing me to accept things that aren't real, like multiple genders while at the same time telling me to follow the science or they will try to get me fired from my job...... Like, C'mon man, live and let live.
@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt no it actually doesn't. It cost $400 or less. They simply want free abortion for irresponsible floozies. You clearly aren't paying attention if you think you need any form of late term abortion which is the only restriction anyone talks about seriously. Nobody needs 6 months to make that decision. Everything else is just hyping up lesbians who for some reason are very into abortion rights. Apparently they aren't sure how pregnancy works.
No you guys are wrong when jake had a run in summer of 91 he had a rude interaction with Warrior when Vince told Jake to go ask Warrior if it was okay to work together. The Warrior was totally unprofessional towards Jake. Jake told the same story in the Dark side of the ring and in the Jake the snake roberts pick your poison DVD. So some of what Jake is true.
Jake had a habit of no-showing because he was unreliable due to alcohol and drug issues. Warrior was an asshole but he had every right to be concerned about Jake no-showing
To be fair, Cornette talked the exact same shit to Florida residents who got hit by hurricanes for voting for DeSantis and Trump , as Warrior talked to Katrina victims.
Definitely seemed like the kind of dude who'd look at a terminally ill person and think "he didn't have the discipline to shape himself a better destiny, what a loser." Also, love how he always covered the part of his life where him and Sting stole food due to not having money as if it was an example of him being a strong-willed warrior - I'm sure he wouldn't see it that way for anyone else.
I had that wrestling buddy in the documentary. I also had the Hogan one. I think there was also a Ted DiBiase and Big Boss Man one. Warrior seems to be everything old Cornette said he was after watching the two documentaries.
The jake the Snake comment. He did turn heal in 91. Cobra bit Randy Savage on TV. I remember that. Kids crying in the stands. That was big back then. That was when Jake was at his best. He had a run with Savage. Had one with Taker. So I believe they were going have run with Warrior. Was no other heal for him at the time.
That had me scratching my head too! At no point was Jake Roberts ever considered for a title shot because (in his own words) he didn’t need a title, he was already a star, and so never tried to get himself a title shot because he was already over
I watched that episode without half of the knowledge that Last had on the situation and felt as though every single thing Jake talked about was probably a lie. Don't get me wrong, I get that Warrior's an egomaniacal asshole, but I don't buy he told Jake that he doesn't care about him or his family to his face either. I'm glad Jake's clean and happy now, but man did he sound like a lying junkie throughout that show.
i think he meant "championship run" as in headline slot. Thats the impression i got, but yeah, i spotted that. Maybe he was promised the run while warrior was still champ in late 1990.
At one time Jake was considered for a run against Hogan when he had the belt. It was mixed because people had started cheering for Jake. I believe they had a setup for it on the Snake Pit talk segment
I hate when people are pieces of shit and just because they die people expect you have a different reaction. He sure didn't have respect for the dead. They had to tell stories that were all over the place because that is the way he was.
Bret Hart said he snubbed a make a wish kid in his book. I believe him. Warrior might have had social anxiety, but doing that? Seems like a complete narcissist.
"He played up his last name 'King' as if he was one..." Said the guy who legally renamed himself "Warrior", the fake fighting performance artist who was never anywhere near a war or a serious violent conflict, or ever competed in a real combat sport... What a ridiculous assclown! He would have dropped dead 20 years earlier if somebody had forced him to march 40 miles.
He never really had a father or a true friend, so he had to be the "ultamite" man above all else, then you'll be the friend underneath him. It gets old quick and pushes people away no matter hard someone tries to stay in your life.. and once he lost his lady, he was even further done
Ohhhh Travis, you’ve done it again!! No smut, no filth, only destrucity!! (Hey, guess what? My spell check didn’t recognize “destrucity” 🤔🤔 wonder why....)
Jim Ross rarely buries anyone in public, and he took a huge dump on Warrior as a worker and as a human being.
And that speaks volumes
But yet he doesn’t have the balls to call out Vince McMahon when there’s countless stories of Vince treating jr like dogshit
@@tharealest8190 JR actually rarely speaks ill of anybody which says a lot the Warrior if he buried him publicly especially considering the Warrior died. As for Vince he's kind of a mixed bag. There are times when he's great to people and there's times when he times where he treats them like shit.
@@Adrian21 no Vince used to DOG jr ass out you really need to go look at the videos where it’s recounted how Vince used to call jr deputy dog and LAUGH at his Bell’s palsy . Jr is a COWARD for talking shit about warrior but not calling out Vince that was abusing his scary ass
If JR is such an ambassador for morality why doesn't he criticize Austin for beating up multiple significant others?
Funny what warrior said about Heenan considering Heenan outlived him.
My goodness, you're right.
That, and people liked and respected Heenan.
Heenan got the last laugh... 👍🏿👍🏿 I Liked Jim Warrior.. but after years of studying this dude he should have been a heel cause he's a natural heel for real and could have made millions from it..
@@kenrickkahn He definitely wouldn’t have made millions as a heel the way he did as a top face. Top heels almost NEVER make anywhere near the kind of money a top face does, especially back than, when the WWF was primarily viewed by kids. Because kids wanted to spend all of their/parents’ money on their toys, shirts and everything else of their favorite heroes, NOT their favorite villains. Speaking as a child back than who had everything Hulk Hogan at one point from action figures to lunchboxes and backpacks, I think I know what I’m talking about here. I’m pretty sure Warrior knew that too, hence why he rejected the idea HIMSELF when Vince wanted to turn him heel around 1992 (the whole storyline of who signed with Mr. Perfect from Summerslam 92).
@@kenrickkahn I get where you're coming from but imo nah, he was saying this stuff in the 2000s. The 2000s already had an awesome conservative themed heel gimmick John Bradshaw Layfield; except JBL was real life millionaire, published books on the stock market and was a pundit for Fox. AKA say what you want about him but he wasn't a total dumbass like Warrior and had a real life background that made the gimmick work better. Lastly, JBL was a dope promo, Warrior was barely coherent. He would've just been a racist, homophobic and sexist version of JBL.
“I know you’re not supposed to speak ill of the dead, but I’m going to speak ill of the Ultimate Warrior because he was a f-king CLOWN.”
- Jim Cornette
Lord forbide something happens to me but if it does I want Jim Cornette to eulogize me by saying these exact words, throwing a few f-bombs and then tossing his memo notes as he leaves in a huff
Love him or hate him, Jim Cornette is fucking hilarious 😂
@@LookAtWow "I thought this was a funeral, not some outlaw mud show!" ((Cornette face)) "Thank you, fuck you, goodbye!"
I full on agree here!
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏 lmao 😂
Damn if warrior could've cut promos like these quotes in the ring he'd have been the biggest heel of all time
The Heenan rant was unreal. Saying that about an overwhelmingly loved figure in the business. What did he do to you?
To be fair, Heenan shat on Woya in the Self Destruction DVD.
Heenan rightfully criticized Warrior. That's what was apparently so horrible. And how ironic that Bobby Heenan still outlived this POS by 3 years.
@@gordonirvine726 But also to be fair Warrior did mess up Heenan's neck more and Heenan was also relaying what other guys, notably Andre, had said about working with Warrior not just saying his own opinion. I've seen that story about Andre basically knocking Warrior out mid-match for working too stiff repeated by others (who obviously could have got it from Heenan in the first place will admit) but I have seen quotes of Andre's daughter saying he hated working with Warrior and really didn't like the guy and if Andre, generally talked about as one of the nicest guys ever, felt that it says a lot. Am pretty sure I read a quote about Warrior making fun of Heenan's appearance after the reconstructive surgery on his jaw so I mean for that and everything else Warrior ever said just no, he deserves whatever anyone has to say about him.
What unforgivable sins did Heenan commit against the Warrior? Well let's see...
Bobby Heenan:
- Had talent
- Could work his ass off
- Could cut an amazing, comprehensible promo
- Was loved by almost everyone in the wrestling business
- Was one of the smartest men to ever grace the wrestling business
- Wasn't an asshole in real life (he only played one on TV)
Am I missing anything?
@@nevermorenovelist great comment. Bobby Heenan had more talent in his little finger than Warrior had in his whole body. Bobby Heenan forgot more about the wrestling business than Warrior ever knew. Warrior was also very stiff in the ring and genuinely hurt Bobby Heenan's neck, due to being careless, unsafe and uncaring about the person he was working with. It was great to hear the story about Andre stopping his nonsense when they were working house shows in the late 1980's though!!
"The Self- Destrucity of The Ultimate Warrior."
@Steve A 🤣🤣🤣 To me it always sounded more like Hole Kogan
Hull Kogan
Hawkogan
Hoke ogan
Did you guys like the two part Krispin Wah episode last season?
I think this video is the actual Dark Side Of The Ring Episode on Warrior
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Well played 🤣
Real shit man he is burying the ultimate warrior. way more in this video. he went easy on him. on the dark side of the ring episode.
Jim needs to find a deal to produce/host his own set of documentaries!
Neither A&E nor Dark Side mentioned how the Renegade was brought in and ruined.
He's the reason why people thought warrior died in the 90s they look identical.
@@sc30002001 no they didn't look alike. I mean Renegade was an obvious knock off, but not a twin.
They skipped Warrior whole WCW run. He needed 2 parts like Pillman. Too much to fit in that little 45 mins
@@sc30002001 they didn't look anything alike, WCW just used him because they were attempting to get him to sign in 95 and kept hinting at an ultimate surprise but by the sounds of it they were doing that before actually talking to him so they found someone to dress up like him and he debuted in a way to try and make people think it was him. But when you actually looked at him you could tell they didn't look anything alike.
Everyone thought he died and Renegade was replacing him or he didn’t die and Renegade was him
“I don’t know if she’s out there booking any hot finishes” got me so good. Just the thought of Dana Warrior knowing to suggest anything other than “how about he runs to the ring really fast” is hilarious
...why is that so? We barely know her. You think every woman is likeminded with their man?
Wwe still put him in the HOF with all the shit he said? Why have someone like that on your program? Terry didn’t go this hard and wwe dropped him quick. Fuq the warrior!
@@herzkine I bet you're fun to be around.
Agreed. "Hot Finishes" kills me every time.
@@zenmastakilla now that was a Hot Finish.
I'm sure Wifey Warrior went and scrubbed the posts so she could tell us how "great but misunderstood" he was.🙄
Exactly what I was thinking
@@CarlosMedina-vj7ot If anyone is white washed its Bruce Lee : terrible temper , numerous affairs. But Linda will never tell the truth cuz BL = $$$
But he was misunderstood - we all underestimated just what a giant a**hat he was.
@@postersandstuff Hey don't disrespct bruce
@@postersandstuff"don't look here, look at the cute little monkey"
What has a martial arts film star got to do with anything?
C'mon Brian. Jake was off his head in 1991. He didn't know where he was let alone what the plans were.
True , but he could have refreshed his memory .
Jake still has a very good memory. In fact he always has, which is probably why he is still alive. The guy has huge substance resistance
@@drunkensailor112
If he has such a good memory why did he think he was wrestling for Warrior’s belt 7 months after he’d already dropped it...?
@@drunkensailor112 So he is just full of shit then? lol I was trying to save face on his behalf
Jake probably lied. But Warrior might have gotten the belt back at some point, if he had stayed in WWF after Summerslam 91, who knows. I remember speculations about plans of Warrior becoming champion after Summerslam 92, and around Summerslam 96 too
I think dark side of the ring about warrior needed to be a 2 parter
It could easily be its own spin-off series
Indeed. There was so many missing details like his WCW run and the whole Renegade thing.
I thought the exact same thing.
I agree 100 percent!
Russell Brown I think Renegade could be its own episode
"You're telling me Jake the Snake told untuths? Imagine that" 😂🤣
Snake so jealous of warrior.Pissed off he didn't get to make money off warriors fame..
The most important thing ever said about Jake will always be the immortal words of Austin 3:16. 🐍
I recall in the late 90’s or early 2000’s seeing on Warrior’s website that he was offering to make personalized workout instruction tapes, and not only was he charging an arm and a leg for it,,he also wanted you to send him bare chested pictures of yourself. So far as I ever found, only a (very) few people actually sent him money and never got their tapes. The guy was a carny grifter, so little wonder he found success in wrestling.
I remember that. It was overpriced and the whole barechested photo thing sounds like his gay desire coming out. Apparently his whacked out comic had male bondage scenes
You can bet he was a closet gay
@@EarlFaulk he released a “special” Christmas issue that was just pinup art, no story. One such image was Santa, ko’d on the floor in his underwear, an empty bottle at his side while Warrior looms over him, yanking Santa’s breeches onto himself. The idea seems to have been that Santa is out of commission so Warrior has to fill in for him. The imagery makes it look like Warrior spiked Santa’s drink and had his way with him. But you know Warrior blamed the comic book’s failure on “the man” holding him back.
@@dkupke Is that the one ComicTropes always had up on his wall? I always wondered what the hell that was.
@@e32b61 yep that’s the one
Martin Luther King. “The paved road was easy to take a bump on” Jim is institutionalized by the wrestling business 😂
I did expect a much more aggressive Dark Side of the Ring episode regarding the Warrior, but I still liked it.
I know what you mean. I did a review of this episode on my channel. Even I was like really? This is what warriors other wife was so offended by. Warriors first wife seemed quite fair if you asked me
@@Leftturnaddict Yeah, I will say when the first ex-wife gets involved, my natural thought is she is going to bury the guy eight ways from Tuesday and tell a lot of crazy stories to make herself seem more important but she actually humanizes him far more than I expected. The A&E one does a very slick job of spinning some of the controversial comments Warrior put out that Jim is covering here and does an overall more thorough job in telling a compelling story of his life and career.
@@crazyjim9380 yeah and who knows which ones that they missed as far as Jim's crazy right winged post. He also mocked drozs disability
Exactly I was expecting a hit piece like and it really wasn’t that much off from A&E
When your ex is bitter and berieseln you...bad...when she is over you , just states the real flaws why she had to leave...fair but bad kick in the nuts
You could tell his first wife really loved him and was crushed when she found he was cheating on her. I felt bad for her. She did a great job humanizing Warrior.
Highly agree. I think he honestly needed that after all the shitting on him all the time... It's nice to hear about the other side of a person with his "qualities"
Funny how he lambasted MLK Jr. for being an adulterer, and yet he was the same, many times over, and ended up with a woman who seemed to not love him at all, and made him more miserable, crazy and cruel…
@@hahajonesI'm still waiting for those photos, recorded calls, fingerprints, DNA evidence, illegitimate children (you know actual PROOF) that is released from the FBI other than just "trust us, we know" about Dr. King. A racist cross dresser was the head of that agency & would have put those things forward, immediately, if it could have stymied any movement Dr. King had in those days. Idc how many Anglo Americans try to repeat that talking point with nothing more than the hearsay of what the racist, corrupt FBI said decades ago. I believe what I see, especially when it's a figurehead as renowned and powerful as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was and still is to this day. They were literally were spying on that man & had the federal government behind them & they've not shred one bit of evidence to support those claims.
I honestly love it when Corny shoots on the Ultimate Warrior. Always entertaining.
Yes
Jim’s a bitter loser who can’t take warrior accomplished more in 4 years then most in the business. Corny is a perfect name for Jim’s career lol.
I'm kinda shocked the warrior got inducted with all the race baggage?
Often Corny just goes off on conservatives for no good reason but Warrior made many conservatives look bad in the 2000s.
I would love to see Corny sit down with a Ben Shapiro or similar figures and actually discuss their differences vs Corny's rants about "Orange man bad and all conservatives or religious people"
@@mattm7798Shapiro was a two-bit writer for a right-wing blog and abandoned all of his "conservative values" to cash in and fleece the orange cult, which is not classically conservative in any way except for their fear of racial and gender equality. It's hilarious that you consider him some kind of legitimate conservative philosopher.
For someone so fixated on "morality", Ultimate Warrior was awfully comfortable insulting people and taking pleasure in their suffering and misfortune
All Republicans are awfully comfortable insulting people and taking pleasure in their suffering and misfortune, while spouting lies and nonsense.
@@gretathanos1534yeah, why did all those people whose homes were underwater not simply pull up their bootstraps?
@Poopmannn their homes were COMEPLETE TRASH before. U wouldn't live there that's for sure. Filthy dirty and falling apart. They didn't fix or take care of anything. Sorry, but it's true. I know the truth is beyond offensive and can get u in alot of trouble these days, but yea it's truth. The hurricane gave alot of them new places when they got back and I was just there 5 years ago and if u could see what they have done in a short amount of time u would understand the frustration. They have trashed it all up again from BRAND NEW!!
@@gretathanos1534 you're a cracker, that's 100% true
@@jtboss8139sounds about white
Best part of the whole Heenan v Warrior feud is the fact that Heenan outlived Warrior. Bobby should have pissed on his grave
Bobby lived but just as a shell while Warrior lived a beautiful life and was in amazing physical shape even in his last days with his family and made amends before passing, Warrior wasn’t lying about bobby.
I honestly don't think that the dark side episode really buried the ultimate warrior. There were guys in the business who told their side of it, but his ex-wife didn't really go out of her way to bury him. Overall I would argue that the dark side episode was a little more positive, because it portrayed a more full three-dimensional human being.
no they didnt,it was almost the same as the a & e show.if they wanted to beat him they would have put in the racial stuff.
He's dead! We all know how he was. But at the end he made peace. Just a being a father.
@@packpock4369 he was still a homophobic racist when he died
@@packpock4369 An asshole is an asshole whether they're alive or dead.
Agreed 200%
It was definitely his family that scrubbed his anti gay stuff from the web so they can make money from his name.
And Dana blaming talk radio for his thoughts and acting like she was ashamed of his speech
@@Nick_Barone why are people automatically believing Warrior over the wife? He wasn't exactly an honest person. She could have been some moderate church going conservative, and he fell into the deep political stuff on his own?
Homophillia is weird
In an era of homophilla, everything seems like homophobia.
@@rayclam8079 do you even know what the word homophillia means ? or that its hasn't been used since the 60s?
Why'd they even bother having Bischoff on the show when there was zero mention of his brief WCW run?
Even Eric doesn’t wanna talk about that crap run
That’s what I was thinking while watching that. I was wondering when were they gonna bring up his WCW run.
Most likely it was cut for time, but Dark Side does end up doing an uncut version with commentary later.
Dark Side Of The Ring does mention Bischoff's idea of sending some of the most iconic as well as up-and-coming WCW talent to an event in North Korea back in 1995 of all places.
Oh my god Jim buried Warrior so deep he hit the center of the earth 😂😂😂
I read somewhere years ago that Warrior's brother posted online, that the only reason why Jim went back to the WWE was to save his marriage with Dana. His brother said that Warrior was in financial trouble and Dana was ready to divorce.
Interesting info. JR talks about during the HoF induction, it was all smiles and hugs, but the Self Destruction dvd hung a dark cloud over that weekend. That makes more sense, he wasn’t over anything but showed up for a payday and save his marriage.
It's hard to listen to that shit about Heenan
...Shit is borderline unforgivable 🤷🏽♂️
depends how much a guy hates some1 who theyve known personally #s#it appens lol pardon the pun
@@manolisanastasiou6393 Man fuck all that, my boy...
@@savharris5702 I can still watch UWs matches and be entertained , just like I can watch Radar on MASH even though the cast had issues with him behind scenes
@@postersandstuff Me too...
What's that gotta do with my disgust tho?
After listening to this bs, I'm ashamed to have been an Ultimate Warrior fan as a Black man. I wish he would've had the privilege of crossing a prime New Jack back in the day. Smh
Fu-- Ultimate Warrior
So this is the same WARRIOR that the WWE Hall of Fame hand's out a legacy award to someone that show's the same spirit and drive as him?? YEESH!!!!
Yeah its pretty messed up!
Even worse, the award's concept was originally supposed to be for behind the scenes employees of WWE, like seamstresses, producers, merch people, maybe even Kevin Dunn. That's what Warrior wanted the award to be.
Instead, it became a fauxlanthropy award
@@SmithCommaBenjamin Yeah, he said as much in his HOF speech regarding all the people behind the scenes that make the show run, who never get recognized by the public. Ofc WWE being WWE, took that concept and turned the Warrior Award into an annual, high profile virtue signalling publicity stunt, where they can exploit the misfortune of courageous individuals just to garner good press.
@@pisto30 I think HHH and Stephanie founding Connor's Cure as an organization for pediatric cancer research in honor of his memory was an appropriate endeavor and one of the more sincere things to materialize from the Warrior Award. I'm all for either renaming the Award or refocusing it to what Helwig suggested it should have originally been. Personally, I'd prefer they not rename it after Connor only because it always felt like soulless, exploitative, corporate grandstanding in the name of good public relations. Connor deserves better than that, and his foundation honors his struggle and legacy every day by helping sick children in need.
@@tigerbug69 would you rather it be the Jake Roberts stuff it up your nose award? Or the don't get in the car with Jimmy Snuka award?
I'm curious if the words that Warrior wrote about Heenan were before or after that self destruction DVD.
(For the record, I met Bobby after the cancer had taken his voice. He treated my older brother like they had been best friends his whole life. That is still the best memory I have of that weekend.)
He will be forever missed by this humanoid ham & egger
I think he did a shoot for RF before the DVD when he was in good health. Absolutely killed the warrior and numerous others like Bischoff and Russo
It was after the DVD. Everyone who participated became extremely hated resulting in Warrior lashing out big time. Vince, Hogan, DiBiase all got similar treatment as Bobby did. That DVD, like his wife mentioned, broke parts of him that were never fixed. It's been made pretty clear that Warrior had a lot of deep rooted issues with himself. He was troubled, defensive, mistrusting and angry. His issues don't excuse some of his behavior, but it helps make sense of his actions.
@@wickerman26 he was also a closet gay
@@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754 Same here!
“I don’t know if she’s booking any hot finishes” really made me crack up for some reason 😂
"Jake was in jail" the way Brian said this like it's just a normal thing got a hell of a laugh out of me
You can find better bodies at a local park then what Jake had.
I like how both warrior documentaries showcased separate wifes
*wives
@@bradpaton3927 I'm a wrestling fan, give me a break. my autistic retardation should already be implied
@@kylorenkardashian79 best come back ever 👌👍😂👏😂😂👏👏😂😂👏👏
@@gordonirvine726 grammar Nazi was ready to send me to the gas chamber
“The anabolic Warrior”, that’s a good one 🤣. I always called him “The Ultimate Steroid”.
Most of the wrestlers today taking steroids still look like highschool children
Bi Polar Warrior ... he sure flip flopped ... passive aggressive Warrior
When Zybysko was in the AWA, he used to call him that.
A significant number of steroid takers, up to 70% I’ve heard, either don’t even work out or don’t work out like a maniac. When you work out like a maniac, the roids take care of your body’s recuperation so you can work out sooner and harder.
@@trappenweisseguy27 Luger said most wrestlers back then did roids
The biggest weakness of the Dark Side shows are that the are only one hour, which means they are about 45 minutes. The two best ones might have been the Benoit two-parter and the Brian Pillman two-parter, because they were two episodes. The two others I really liked were Owen Hart and the Von Erichs, because they focused on the redemption of Owen Hart and his wife's aim to keep his memory alive and Kevin Von Erich. They had a narrow focus.
Von Erichs could’ve been 2 episodes also
I personally enjoyed the Korea, Brawl for All, and Herb Abrams episodes too.
The Von erichs was dark side that's for sure and it could have been 2 episodes but I don't think it would have been nice to continue to ask for more from the only living Von Erich left. He gave what he could I think and for him to continue to provide more when he didn't look well but says he's happy with his life I think they did what they got was just enough
Spot on!
The Gorgeous Gino, Road warriors, Bruiser Brody episodes were good also, but lately this season they been trash except for Pullman episodes.
I'm 38. Warrior was the thing when I started watching wrestling. I thought he was shit way back then, when the gimmicks were probably what hooked me in, over ring craft. As an adult, I love his mental promos. His Wrestling skills were abysmal.
Fantastic art by Travis once again. Jim's look of utter confusion absolutely nailed it. I remember reading the first Warrior comic book...or trying to, anyways, and just being absolutely baffled by it.
If you think that's fantastic art you must be a right wing nut.
@@hulksmash8159 Nailed it in one. Am I that transparent?
@@thegrimharvest I knew that there would be one person who read his comic book. I didn't really believe it to be honest. Until now. 😂😂👍👍
@@mctavish4496 In my defense, I was a teenage comic nerd, and I think it (the 1st issue) came free with my sister's subscription to whatever the WWF magazine was called back then.
It was the epitome of 90s comic art style. It looked cool as all get out, but reading it was another thing entirely. Didn't make a lick of sense.
I remember I was genuinely curious about what the story would be about. So, not knowing I was opening a tome of madness, I picked it up, began reading...and im not sure if I even finished the entire issue.
It was just, I dunno, incomprehensible. Maybe it all made sense in Warrior's mind somehow but it definitely flew over my head.
Now I'm genuinely wondering if I am the only one who tried to read it. And also strangely tempted to see if I could dig it up from my old comic collection to try reading it again, just to see if it's still as out there as I remember it.
I remember comic reviewer Linkara ranking it as one of the worst comics he read for his show and saying that maybe he needed to get “Folked” to understand it
Was surprised that dark side of the ring went so soft. Especially considering all the drug talk they did with Pillman. A&E was the better doc.
I agree, was possibly the most 'surface level' dark side out of them all.. Basically nothing of note was said except that he wasn't a great wrestler over and over 🤷♂️
I think so too the only thing we learned about the dark side of the ring was his ex Shari Tyree who was his wife throughout his journey in his adult life. She knew who he was back before he went apeshit crazy egocentric.
Talking about what a colossal asshole the Ultimate Warrior could be has been done to death, so as far as I'm concerned, the producers were smart to approach it from a different angle. It's not even that they avoided talking about his failings, but bringing in his ex-wife really added a layer of nuance and emotion I wasn't expecting. Don't forget that the Dark Side in Dark Side of the ring could mean more than one thing. It could mean the seedy, bad side of the industry, but it can also just mean the story less told, and in Warrior's case that story is, at this stage, that he actually could be nice once in a while.
Seeing his ex wife tell her side of what kind of person he was before he became "warrior" when he was still Jim Helwig was really interesting.
I think the episode did what it was supposed to do. It peeled back the layers to get to the source of the man that was Warrior. When his father left home when Warrior was a kid, it shaped who he would then become. It told him early on that only he couldn't rely on anybody but himself, it made him wary & insecure of everybody. This is probably why when Warrior entered the business he marched to the beat of his own drum, he saw quickly how many workers would bust themselves night after night for chicken feed and he knew then that rather than the business working the talent, he was going to work the business. He didn't care about being "one of the boys" he wanted to carve out a lucrative career for himself out of fear of being let down again and send back to poverty. When you look at how much talent from the 70s & 80s became broken men in wheelchairs in destitute poverty. In some weird way, what Warrior did.. has to be respected.
I was a huge fan of Warrior growing up but as I got older and understood the craft I eventually saw that he wasn't that skilled or great in the ring then with his comments in the past I really thought less of him as both a wrestler and a person. Even though I thought the burying of Warrior in the WWE dvd was kind of shitty I agree with what Booker T said recently is that they weren't actually wrong.
RIP but people shouldn't have to sugar coat him.
The craft was entertaining the crowd which was filled with family’s not wrestling enthusiasts. Warrior was miles ahead of everyone in that regard. That why were here talking about warrior and not those other bums.
In the end its a story that's as old as time in the entertainment industry when someone has fame fortune and success is thrust upon someone who isn't ready for it and can't sustain it for a prolonged period of time:
Too much, too soon and nowhere to go but down.
Yeah. Warrior abusing drugs, steroids, being unfaithful on the road, refusing to speak to/sign autographs for young fans, and having a big head, THEN proclaiming he's some kind of role model...irony at its worst
Like with the current wrestlers 🤮
@@georgefrancis8602 lots of wrestlers have cheated if were going down that road......UW was right about Ted , heard him and Ted Jr scammed MS welfare money. Andre also refused to sign autographs said Iron Sheik.
The audience bought it though. Its only disgruntled coworkers who hate the guy
@@gordonirvine726 well with a broken neck you tend to criticize your coworker that caused it
They really should make a comedy biopic of Ultimate Warrior starring Ben Stiller. If you've seen the movie "Heavyweights" you know he would be perfect. Plus, he looks like him too.
Ben Stiller? Really? A privileged Hollywood jewish actor?
I remember being like 10 yrs old my stepdad at the time had me watch the self destruction of the ultimate warrior DVD. I couldn’t pay any attention I was blinded by how cool I thought he was. As I got older I saw things on the internet of him saying wild shit. I just can’t believe someone can be so overly unpleasant.
The best thing is that Bobby Heenan actually outlived him by a number of years
Warrior at HOF: "I am redeemed"
Karma: "I'm going to make you bump one last time!"
I had a thought that maybe he tried to dabble in same stuff that he used to do before going to the ring in order to get himself hyped up & it didn’t go well, but it’s just a thought.
Karma isn’t real and we all die , nice try tho
@@tharealest8190 Karma isn't even convenient for you to even be cynical about. But piss off enough ppl, and see how great your future will be😚
@@steveknick1978 I mean, it is weird that it happened so accurately on that time. But then again, roids gave him the short time clock. THIS is why I shit on people who try to call steroid use as just recreational and not a "serious drug". It's serious alright, dead serious 😐
@@shindean Almost all wrestlers back then did steroids at some point. In Warrior's case, it was more his family history and probably the meticulously diet to stay ripped. It turns out that diets super high in protein and low in complex carbs shorten your life span. Warrior would only sniff carbs.
'Destrucity' is like something Gary Busey would say, but Gary Busey at least has the excuse of suffering massive brain damage in the 80s.
Lmao my god the accuracy
It's said that before judging someone, letting them tell their side of the story is important. Unfortunately in the Warrior's case, his own words confirm he was a complete douchebag.
I would’ve loved a two part series on the Warrior. One part on his wrestling career, another on his post wrestling career
Yes, the could have gone into his questionable "motivational speeches", all of his attempts to grift fans, that video about Macho Man right after his death that turned into some rant against Hogan and finally get sued by a fan for fraud.
That shoot on Hogan was a proper burial. Warrior meticulously buried Terry Bollea like a surgeon at work. I would love to see a documentary on the speaking of the Warrior. I still listen to that Burial Of Hogan occasionally, he was a good promo
God why are all my childhood heros low key pieces of shit?!!? It sucks
Most people with a strong desire to be famous come from a wacky background, where they didn’t get enough attention/love as a child. Those circumstances create famous people who might not have the best odds at turning out to be high quality individuals.
because humans are flawed. even famous ones. I'm my kids hero but I'm a ex heroin addict that ended up escaping from prison but now I'm 4 years clean
@@johnbarnett2316 😆🤣 dis dude hilarious
@@Ayo601 who me
He was upfront about it.
I was waiting for Iron Sheik to appear on the episode to say F***k The Ultimate Warrior that Jabroni. Love The Iron Sheik.✌
I saw a video where the Sheik basically said that the Warrior was a gay prostitute. 😂
@@lordhirudo5311 🤣 is the video on youtube, would like to check it out.
@@fernandoguajardo2750 that’s where I saw it. It was a compilation of wrestlers doing shoots on the Warrior. Most of them just said he was an asshole, but the Sheik went that extra mile, as usual!
@@lordhirudo5311 Didn't Warrior refuse to shake his hand at some wrestling con and Sheik lost his temper.
@@SteelSunday I’m not sure, but I think that was why Sheik was mad at Hulk Hogan.
There’s *tons* of reasons that virtually any wrestler would be mad at Warrior, however.
Ultimate Warrior's Old lady got him into the Republican party. Warrior was doing a Limbaugh gimmick? Wtf.
@Blaine's Wasteland she's a fraud
I remember reading rumors, supposedly from his early days in the business, that Warrior was a rent boy on the side. And I've seen a couple of shoot interviews where it was mentioned in passing that he had sex with other men. So there's that, take it for whatever it's worth to you.
Oh shit . This was unexpected.
8:19 Ho Kogan, Leather Hedger, Booby Heenan - the self destruction of the english language
The thing I took away from the episode was that Warrior should've never fucked things up with his first wife.
She seemed like a really good person.
@@majurbludd Okay. So?
Being a stripper doesn't make someone a bad person.
Yeah I thought she came off like a saint in this episode
@KaneMagus Good point 😂
Just use the WayBack machine. You'll be able to find whatever he posted if you know the website Warrior posted to before they were deleted.
A lot of his stuff is not available through Wayback Machine. Someone from Warrior's company 'Ultimate Creations' filed a DMCA takedown notice against Wayback Machine, and threatened to sue them for copyright over their archive of Warrior's website, including the blog where he wrote a lot of this heinous shit.
There's been no test case for this kind of claim. So even if the people that run Wayback Machine thought they had a chance to win, it could have been incredibly drawn out and costly. Which when you have Dana Warrior, and WWE wanting to make sure that part of his legacy is erased to exploit his name for awards and other publicity events, then that's a pretty big ask of anyone to take on.
Lol
Nice a very informative answer thanks
@@ShredderLivesOn But surely someone must have archived it privately and post the contents of the blogs somewhere ?
@@bloodangel13 They will be plenty of people who have screenshotted his rants and saved his videos, and after this doc and the other one someone will leak it out. If someone who has bad stuff in there life and then someone is hiding it or trying someone will come out with that stuff they were trying to hide just prove
I’m actually really surprised they didn’t talk to Melanie Pillman.
Suprised they didn't
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account forgive my ignorance but he was with melanie as well
@@herecomesdatrain yea he dated her before Brian did
@@LightFromADeadStar now I remember lapse of judgement my bad
I think she was the girl when his ex wife said I heard a girl's voice when he answered the phone.
Well done Jim. I feel so bad for these middle-aged man-boys who cling to their adoration of him.
No kidding. I mean, I'm 37 yrs old, so I adored the guy as a kid...but it's not hard to figure out that the dude was an unapologetic piece of garbage in real life.
Ultimate S**thead!
Gotta hand it to Jim too and I think more people should take note, is don't change you tone or opinion on someone just because they passed away. I think it speaks a lot to a person character when they try to change their attitude and feelings towards someone just bc they passed. If you felt like they were an asshole, then continue to feel that.
I always felt MJ wasn't anything special , fancy dance moves but so has Chris Walken and I didn't change my mind when he (MJ) died in '09
@@postersandstuff Chris walken is overrated but that’s just my opinion
Yep. Truly awful people end up getting a free pass, and nothing is learned.
Warrior wanting “destrucity” to become a thing..... wonder how he felt when The Rock had a few words put in the dictionary??
IT DOESN'T MATTER!
I’m sure warrior couldnt care less , he came up with the word for himself and nothing more
Probably felt like a major jabroni
Wow...I could cry if I could to the things Jim Helwig said and wrote about all of those people. I'm a Union SAG-AFTRA actor/performer and the roles we act are like wrestling characters - they are just characters, NOT real life, aside from those like the Von Erichs who did not need gimmicks to be a character other than themselves who did great in the day. Aside from that, we are actors, just as wrestlers are actors in a similar way, only they are great athletes. I am straight and can care less what others do in their lives because the gay community, or bi community, or what have you do not effect my life in any way, and I have no problem with what other people do - just as long as they are nice then that's all that matters. Everyone has an opinion, but WTF was Jim thinking when he went on a bipolar tirade bashing gay people!? And the things he said about Bobby "The Brain" Heenan was heart breaking. What the hell did Bobby ever do? I almost wished I didn't know these things, but I'd rather know and not be ignorant of this craziness with the things he spewed...like MLK and how Jim bashed him of all people! He was a hero and more courageous than Jim's imaginary alter ego ever would have been if he were real and not some comic book hero....what the flying shit was he thinking!? MLK was a hero, he was beaten, jailed, shot at and yet he did not let those stop him from his dream. I'm a red skinned Pawnee and was not around in the 60's by any means, but that man was a damn hero! WTF Warrior, what the hell was he on when he said those things? And what the fuck is destrucity!??? Sounds like a dick pill!
Its the same when you're at work : some people you like , some you dont
There was no roll of quarters. That video of Jake and Warrior interacting for the first time at the hall of fame is on youtube. Jake looks incredibly happy to see him lol.
i think there was legitimate heat. I mean ffs, Warrior literally cost Jake thousands and thousands of dollars. But yeah i think Jake was bsing about the roll of quarters...however I do think sometimes all that's needed to disarm decades and decades of bitterness is just talking man to man and working things out
I discovered the letter he wrote Bobby Heenan years ago, and this isn't pardoning his other rants, but reading THAT! I was all set with this Ultimate PIECE OF GARBAGE!
And yet Warriors last ever match was against Orlando Jordan! Gotta love the irony 😂
I thought the dark side would be a lot harder on him
I think they thought his first wife was gonna throw him under the bus but she kinda didn’t.
@@masswellwilliamson But she was at least honest, she did not even attempt to defend his shitty wrestling ability
I thought Darkside of the ring was gonna cover that he used to pose for gay magazines.
@Cee Wil Eric Embry talked about it in a shoot interview and I was told that twice as a kid but 2 adult wrestling fans so I just always thought it was true
People who are obsessively anti-gay and talk about gay people all of the time are usually closeted gay straight men who are secure in their manhood and love women don't give a f*** what another people do in their bedroom if a guy is gay that's just more women for me.
@Tall King I agree. Like that Lars guy in WWE. He was doing all that anti gay shit on his social media whole time he did gay porn in his pass
@@thesupervisor3270 bingo they say all of that stuff because they're trying to suppress it it's like they're trying to talk it away but it comes out eventually I wouldn't be surprised if some dude the ultimate warrior was banging got paid off to keep his mouth shut.
The fucked up part is that if Warrior spit these promos and had a more bare bones early 00's gimmick, he'd have been over as a massive heel. Like, imagine him as some warped crusader for moral purity, in the vein of Bret Hart, and you can see what I'm angling for. These promos are INFINITELY more coherent- albeit unfathomably more detestable- than ANYTHING he ever cut in his career.
But, on a serious note, Warrior was a grade A bastard.
WTF?? Dude u weird as fuck! It’s just somethings go pass pro wrestling and his comments would be one of them.
That would have been a great way for the WWE to lose their sponsors and millions of dollars.
@@jessepaiz6356 🤣🤣🤣 100% true. I obviously understand the real world restrictions of this idea...but still, it's fun to imagine.
The WWE already had a few of those types of gimmicks - Kurt Angle, Right to Censor and heel Backlund. Plus they had late 90s Bossman who was just going around being a massive asshole feeding Al Snow's own dog to him, or dragging Big Show's dad's coffin behind a cop car. WWE had most of that ground covered.
I'd really like to meet Jim Cornette someday just to ask him what he thinks of Ultimate Warrior.
Vince must’ve had a soft spot for Warrior to have wanted to have him in his company despite all that happened.
No 98 WCW!! Should have been 2 parts
I beleive they didnt bring up his WCW run because the only reason he was there was that Hogan could get his wrestlemania 6 loss redeemed
Here's the way I describe it. I saw both Biography and DOTR. Biography was the broth, while DOTR was the meat.
I call it the GTA syndrome, where the overwhelming amount of content to indulge with means other large portions will be left out. It's a testament to how unbearable this guy was as a human being😕
@@shindean Yeah. Warrior certainly worked hard to be the biggest pile of 💩
DOTR was like the Great Value version of Biography
@@zachary_attackery I'd say Darkside of The Ring filled in the gaps. I knew DOTR was gonna be less sterilized. Cornette's not worried about a filter when it comes to his opinion, so I knew I was going to love it.
I almost pissed my pants as Jim read the letter from Titan Sports to Warrior firing him. 😆😆😆
Good lord. Some of these Warrior quotes are fucking brutal. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how Cornette's career long fanbase, notoriously Republican, can manage to separate the egregious political differences between Jim and themselves, when they are completely unable to do so in any other capacity on this planet.
Holy shit, I had no idea these existed. Jim hasn’t done Warrior’s lunacy justice. Dude was a fucking nut.
While Jake's timeline claims seems off, don't forget Warrior was also feuding with Taker in 1991, maybe the original plan was for Hogan to drop the belt to Taker at Survivor Series (without Flair's involvement as him jumping ship to the WWF may not have been a thing at that point) then Warrior taking it off Taker to feud with Jake. Then again, with the conflicting stories Bret and Hogan have told regarding the championship in 1993, it might just be another case of Vince making empty promises leading each person along.
I remember the bodybag match between Taker and Warrior. July 1991 I think it was. I remember Taker putting Warrior in the casket as well, which had big scratches on the inside of it, to indicate the desperation of the Warrior trying to escape.
And NO mention on his feud with Rick Rude.
What nothing at all in this doc about the matches considering the feud with RR was his well known feud except for the one match with Hogan.
Or his WCW run
I agree with Brian, the episode lacked focus. It's supposed to be the dark side of the ring, we dont need his bio or even his WWF run. Theres nothing "dark" about those. The dark side was his post wrestling life.
And that wasn't even "dark". It's the shit you hear on right wing talk radio every day.
What I want to know is did anyone save his eight-page rant on eBay when he was selling his WWF championship belt?
I never heard about that?
Please expand
@@gordonirvine726 He put up his WWF Championship belt from 1990 for like $20,000 or something on eBay. Someone DARED to question the authenticity of said title, which prompted the aforementioned rant in the item description.
@@fergalstackstreams Lol I can totally imagine that rant
Bruce Prichard and Conrad were talking about the Warrior vs Slaughter match. Bruce was made that Uncle Dave called him the Anabolic Warrior.
Bruce: Who does Meltzer think he is?
Conrad: Are you going to pretend Warrior didn't use steriods?
Bruce: I don't know that he did.
Warrior wasn't a conservative, just a lunatic
same thing lol
@@iamdb1990 exactly
Steroids ate everything included his brain
@@crissy4346 You know you're living in a weird world when the people who believe in thousands of genders are calling those who don't "lunatics" lol.
Warrior was correct. Period.
Warrior knew all about adultery.
People kill the wwe for the "self destruction of the ultimate warrior" DVD, but that's exactly what happened.. the guy self destructed.. he was a pain to deal with.. its hard to do his biography without having to speak on all the negatives in his career
I knew he had posted a good deal of Herculean Twaddle, but I did not know to what such degree a colossal knobhead he was.
Ha!!! Knobhead!!!
I am now definitely waiting for the extended cuts if they felt they went too soft. I'm sure that's gonna be the crux of any supplemental material. They definitely erred on the side of caution and wanting to be balanced. Nothing on steroids at all? And what was with both the A&E and DSOTR skipping the WCW run?
They skipped it for on DSOTR too? That's disappointing. Though then again, they didn't cover Owen's life and career pre OTE 99 either, and I felt it coulda been a better documentary if they had. Deserved 2 parts I'd say, at least covering from the time Bret left/The Montreal Screwjob to the end, which if I recall they didn't do.
@@ajk DSOTR honestly suffers from going back and forth between documenting incidents and their impact (Owens episode, Brodys murder, Montreal) to trying to bio wrestlers (at least their career) as completely as possible(Pillman, Warrior, New Jack). I find myself enjoying the incident based ones better for that reason, as unless they go two hours like Pillman, lots of stuff will get glossed over or omitted. Hell, I was shocked last night that the Mick Foley A&E bio blew by his title win and didn't even mention the WCW misfire. Considering it's coproduced by WWE, that's surprising. They usually don't miss the chance to remind people that was the last time WCW led in the ratings.
@@inarar5334 That IS surprising on the Foley show......unless they were trying to come at it from an angle beyond what most already knew, given how much that story has been told over the years. I could maybe see that, but even so, that's an interesting choice. Am sure they coulda found a unique, fresh way to retell the story if they wanted to there. And in regards to DSOTR, that makes me think that making them an hour long as a rule mighta been a mistake. Seems to me, 2 hours woulda been better to allow for more depth. Most WWE documentaries for example are at least that long, some even longer than that, and these A&E ones in looking not having really watched any of them that they've ran honestly to date, are also. An hour would seem to be too short.
@@ajk considering they didn't shy away from the constant "you'll never make it" stuff heard from people like Flair and they even had Vinnie Mac not only admit that it took him awhile to come around on Foley, but he also was quoted as saying when he signed him it was basically to get JR to stop bugging him and he actually said he was hoping he'd fail miserably so JR would know that felt. So to skip WCW announcing his win, especially with the infamous butts in seats crack, is really weird. It's the ultimate example of how damn over and beloved he was.
I vote Red and am conservative, I like Jim Cornette's podcast for the most part. Love the wrestling
don't care for his politics but hey that's Jim right? To me what Warrior said in that stuff makes no sense to me.
The only thing I can get is the idea that people who didn't care about their stuff complain
and get free stuff. I can see some people doing that but not everyone. Families make the world
work for the future.
Other than that, Nothing he said matches my values there. I am for Homosexuals
or anyone doing their own thing. Just don't infringe on my right to do my own thing. I loved the Warrior
as a kid. He was really like they said a cartoon come to life and could come to your town. Warrior
I truly believe learned a lot of lessons in life and it took a hard long road to get there. He wasn't perfect
none of us are so let the sinless throw the first stone at this glass house.
Well, the crime rate in Houston DID sky rocket when everyone from New Orleans moved there after the hurricane....... Probably just a coincidence lol.
You're a right ring conservative? WTF is wrong with you ?
@KaneMagus I don't think they are telling them what to do with their body's, just that whatever they choose to do will not be paid for by the taxpayer.... Pretty reasonable.
But I do hate how those GOP people keep forcing me to accept things that aren't real, like multiple genders while at the same time telling me to follow the science or they will try to get me fired from my job...... Like, C'mon man, live and let live.
@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt no it actually doesn't. It cost $400 or less. They simply want free abortion for irresponsible floozies. You clearly aren't paying attention if you think you need any form of late term abortion which is the only restriction anyone talks about seriously. Nobody needs 6 months to make that decision. Everything else is just hyping up lesbians who for some reason are very into abortion rights. Apparently they aren't sure how pregnancy works.
Iron Shiek always said”, Fak the ultimate warrior “. The Jake timeline was incredible!! WOW!! Blame Vince McMahon!!
Jim Cornette going to town on Warrior, Hogan and Jericho will always be entertaining because ITS TRUE
They do know that Sting is alive and well but wasn't interviewed.
Well put Brian 👏. That dark side one was a disappointment.
No you guys are wrong when jake had a run in summer of 91 he had a rude interaction with Warrior when Vince told Jake to go ask Warrior if it was okay to work together. The Warrior was totally unprofessional towards Jake. Jake told the same story in the Dark side of the ring and in the Jake the snake roberts pick your poison DVD. So some of what Jake is true.
Exactly. Jake actually has a good memory
@@drunkensailor112
Wrong.
In the doc he makes out he’s working for Warrior’s belt, despite the fact he’d dropped it 7 months prior.
@@kelman727 warrior was most likely going to get the belt back if he hadn't left
Jake had a habit of no-showing because he was unreliable due to alcohol and drug issues. Warrior was an asshole but he had every right to be concerned about Jake no-showing
To be fair, Cornette talked the exact same shit to Florida residents who got hit by hurricanes for voting for DeSantis and Trump , as Warrior talked to Katrina victims.
Two wrongs don't make a right
Definitely seemed like the kind of dude who'd look at a terminally ill person and think "he didn't have the discipline to shape himself a better destiny, what a loser." Also, love how he always covered the part of his life where him and Sting stole food due to not having money as if it was an example of him being a strong-willed warrior - I'm sure he wouldn't see it that way for anyone else.
I had that wrestling buddy in the documentary. I also had the Hogan one. I think there was also a Ted DiBiase and Big Boss Man one. Warrior seems to be everything old Cornette said he was after watching the two documentaries.
The jake the Snake comment. He did turn heal in 91. Cobra bit Randy Savage on TV. I remember that. Kids crying in the stands. That was big back then. That was when Jake was at his best. He had a run with Savage. Had one with Taker. So I believe they were going have run with Warrior. Was no other heal for him at the time.
That had me scratching my head too! At no point was Jake Roberts ever considered for a title shot because (in his own words) he didn’t need a title, he was already a star, and so never tried to get himself a title shot because he was already over
That threw me for a loop.
I watched that episode without half of the knowledge that Last had on the situation and felt as though every single thing Jake talked about was probably a lie. Don't get me wrong, I get that Warrior's an egomaniacal asshole, but I don't buy he told Jake that he doesn't care about him or his family to his face either. I'm glad Jake's clean and happy now, but man did he sound like a lying junkie throughout that show.
It’s funny as Warrior wasn’t the champion in the time frame they are talking about. Hogan was in his 3rd reign as WWF Champion
i think he meant "championship run" as in headline slot. Thats the impression i got, but yeah, i spotted that. Maybe he was promised the run while warrior was still champ in late 1990.
At one time Jake was considered for a run against Hogan when he had the belt. It was mixed because people had started cheering for Jake. I believe they had a setup for it on the Snake Pit talk segment
I hate when people are pieces of shit and just because they die people expect you have a different reaction. He sure didn't have respect for the dead. They had to tell stories that were all over the place because that is the way he was.
This might be harsh, but the best thing Warrior ever did to rehabilitate his image was dying.
That’s always the case.
"...the paved road was easy to take a bump on.." Brilliant!
Bret Hart said he snubbed a make a wish kid in his book. I believe him. Warrior might have had social anxiety, but doing that? Seems like a complete narcissist.
Warrior had alot of time for fans. Just looked at the meet and greets on youtube to testify that.
@@foreverred105 we talking about his younger days, warrior snubbed the kid with cancer and only hulk went out of his time to cheer the kid up
"He played up his last name 'King' as if he was one..."
Said the guy who legally renamed himself "Warrior", the fake fighting performance artist who was never anywhere near a war or a serious violent conflict, or ever competed in a real combat sport...
What a ridiculous assclown! He would have dropped dead 20 years earlier if somebody had forced him to march 40 miles.
"That concrete road was easy to take a bump on."
"Off the top of your head from over thirty years ago! That right there is why you're on the program!"
He never really had a father or a true friend, so he had to be the "ultamite" man above all else, then you'll be the friend underneath him. It gets old quick and pushes people away no matter hard someone tries to stay in your life.. and once he lost his lady, he was even further done
Ohhhh Travis, you’ve done it again!! No smut, no filth, only destrucity!! (Hey, guess what? My spell check didn’t recognize “destrucity” 🤔🤔 wonder why....)
Whoever does the drawings or artwork for the cartoons on your youtube video i love it especially ur facial expressions