First of all, that moustache is awesome. Second, after all the shorter videos of reviews and unboxing I was getting anxious for a battle report, and you guys delivered. Third, I accidentally loaded the old AMGAS website while trying to get to the RUclips page. I realised it all started with a simple site you guys shared your hobby on, and now you’re on RUclips and Patreon, creating content in your own format. It’s both inspiring and motivational. Regarding the game: it was great to see some forces which don’t get played a lot. I played against a few French armies on tournaments and it’s basically the equivalent of the Czech unit spam but with a 4+ to hit (which made all the difference). Playing a scenario in which both forces have to get an objective also makes for a much more interesting game, and I didn’t see much that I would’ve done differently regarding tactics or overall strategy. Sean mixing up his morale and rally values didn’t affect the game too much, seeing as he was on the backfoot from turn 2 after you rolled your second successful reserve roll. On a different note, have you guys thought about a narrative campaign for FoW/ TY?
i just noticed after rewatching the video that at 21:13 you would not have been able to range in arty due to danger close as helos count for danger close.
Good battle, you guys should have a rematch now the NATO book is out and the French have more options, maybe some Milan 2 missiles? It's good for me as I have WarPac stuff and the T-72B is my tank of choice for them. I'm also building a French army. I also like your battles as it gives me ideas for laying out the roads and terrain. Also, impressive moustache, should have conferred a +1 to each reserve roll
I definitely be up for a rematch. For the new stuff I don’t think I will use the Milan 2,Hot 2s or the eryx. I do like the little cars with the Apilas though.
Great game, glad to see more TY on the channel! Almost seems that TY is getting more love from BF these days, help that there are so many more nations with a greater variety of units. I'm starting to like it more than FOW now, the air and helos add some great variety and the infantry, mostly, are more of a threat. The new NATO book gives the French some more options, always hard to get the balance right with punch vs defence, and this mission is one of the worst IMO. A game with Mark's British against Sean's revised French (a blue on blue training exercise) would be great to see.
As always, love the TY-content, so cheers for that 👍🏻 Few points: - The mustache like that on a French player should earn +1 morale. - Dies like that should be banned. They knock around walls, units. It's like throwing rocks on the table. Is there some deep reason he uses them? - Moving Shilkas first time, couldn't you have issued Cross Here -order to make crossing in the woods one easier, as they weren't going to shoot anyway? - Commander spotting for arty. Rule 3 Select aiming point (p. 52), it says the ranged in marker is placed on a spot within LOS. Rule about LOS (p. 40) says that LOS is blocked by friendly teams, other than infantry. So, he couldn't have seen through all those tanks to spot, right?
Thanks for the comments and yes, Sean loves his Casino dice. Regarding LOS for Spotters this was addressed in the latest Field Manual 101 "A Spotting team must have Line Of Sight to the Aiming Point when Ranging In. Do friendly teams block Line of Sight for spotting? No. Ignore friendly teams when determining Line of Sight for Spotting purposes."
@@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall Ah, didn't realise to check FAQ, thanks for that 😄 Haha, he does? Well, then maybe a throwing tray then? I fear for your figures whenever he throws 😜 And throwing tray would make sure us viewers always get to see the results too, dice not landing behind a building or something 😄
Yeah, I was going to say those dice.. I find them outright rude to use. The hard edges and corners combined with their weight damage paintjobs and break things off models, too, even on terrain. Use them in a tray or don't use them at all. I loved the batrep, but everytime those dice dinked models and terrain I cringed hard.
Great TY batrep as always. In Polish T1, do the tanks have a moving ROF for their missiles when shooting at the AA? Most missiles can't move and fire. In French T1 helicopters are affected by danger close (they hate flying through falling arty shells) and that arty on the woods looks pretty close to the Gazelle gunslingers. At 1 hr:06 min when the Polish armour gets just one tank in for a close assault on the defending French infantry that is bailed it would not be pushed back (IMHO). It needs 2 hits to have an assault fail. (The other tanks bogged in the woods.) You would have close combat and the one bailed tank could not hit. If the French counter attack they would auto destroy the bailed tank and possibly contact other tanks within 4" with no defensive fire. If the Polish failed to ocunter attack they all have to fall back. The Shilas wiping out the gunslingers is why you always fire at the AA first. I think when transports are running without infantry they act as a separate unit for morale purposes. (Not positive.) So that lone BMP-2 maybe should have been taking last stand checks. Great sorry. I'm not trying to be mean. Just a few minor rules. For terrain I find you have to have hills in TY to block LOS because everything has long range and no range penalty. It is hard to hide without hills.
Thanks for the comments. The T-72b missile has a moving rate of fire. Does make it handy. Regarding the assault this is how we saw it. Only one tank made it into assault, so there is only one "assaulting team". With only one assaulting tank defense fire only needed to bail/kill that one tank to stop the assault. Cheers
Spot on regarding the assault. If only one team can reach the enemy, then that team becomes an assaulting team only. The rest don't participate. And if that tank gets bailed during defensive fire, it's pushed back and no assault happens.
Hot helos in reserve, I find to be bad idea as you may get them on the table, however, you have to wait to use them next turn due to no moving ROF, this is why I find mephisto's to be a better platform plus are also cheaper. gunslinger gazelles are the best helo in the game.
Yea I was hoping the Poles would select the attack stance or I would of gotten attacker in a mission like this one. I have been able to get them in with missions that have the turn 6 win condition.
The French have normaly a 4+ to remount and 5+ last stand. So in some situations Monsieur Mustache mixed it up. And why weren´t all those Anti-Helicopter 20mm guns used against the Hinds?
Je suis désolé yeah got the my French mixed up with my Czechoslovak I was working on. I just went after the Dana’s cause I just wanted to last one more turn and did not want to lose that last APILA.
@@seanyoung3656 Mixing the stats could happen in the heat of the battle. And the French and Czech flag share the same colours so that is understandable 😅 By 20mm Anti-Helicopter I meant your AMX-10P and AMX-30 that could have fire on the Hinds in Defence. But in the end things like that could also be missed in the heat of the ballte. Anyway you fought also a battle versus the dice (late reserves which arrived on the total wrong spot, John got his reserve very early and all at the same side) and you faced one of the biggest weekness of the french own reserves. But I like your paint job. Great work.
First of all, that moustache is awesome. Second, after all the shorter videos of reviews and unboxing I was getting anxious for a battle report, and you guys delivered. Third, I accidentally loaded the old AMGAS website while trying to get to the RUclips page. I realised it all started with a simple site you guys shared your hobby on, and now you’re on RUclips and Patreon, creating content in your own format. It’s both inspiring and motivational.
Regarding the game: it was great to see some forces which don’t get played a lot. I played against a few French armies on tournaments and it’s basically the equivalent of the Czech unit spam but with a 4+ to hit (which made all the difference).
Playing a scenario in which both forces have to get an objective also makes for a much more interesting game, and I didn’t see much that I would’ve done differently regarding tactics or overall strategy. Sean mixing up his morale and rally values didn’t affect the game too much, seeing as he was on the backfoot from turn 2 after you rolled your second successful reserve roll.
On a different note, have you guys thought about a narrative campaign for FoW/ TY?
Respect for that mustache.
The french army paint job is amazing.
Great TY video! Never seen Polish or French on the board, was awesome to see two well painted forces
French rally or remount is not 5+. They are average, 4+. The weakness of French is the morale (5+), which is used for Last Stand Test.
i just noticed after rewatching the video that at 21:13 you would not have been able to range in arty due to danger close as helos count for danger close.
Fantastic game with two gigs looking forces. Auto loader is vicious, especially against base 3+ to hit infantry. Thanks.
Good battle, you guys should have a rematch now the NATO book is out and the French have more options, maybe some Milan 2 missiles? It's good for me as I have WarPac stuff and the T-72B is my tank of choice for them. I'm also building a French army. I also like your battles as it gives me ideas for laying out the roads and terrain. Also, impressive moustache, should have conferred a +1 to each reserve roll
I definitely be up for a rematch. For the new stuff I don’t think I will use the Milan 2,Hot 2s or the eryx. I do like the little cars with the Apilas though.
Great report! Hopefully we see more of French as they are seen much less than other factions.
Great game, glad to see more TY on the channel! Almost seems that TY is getting more love from BF these days, help that there are so many more nations with a greater variety of units. I'm starting to like it more than FOW now, the air and helos add some great variety and the infantry, mostly, are more of a threat. The new NATO book gives the French some more options, always hard to get the balance right with punch vs defence, and this mission is one of the worst IMO. A game with Mark's British against Sean's revised French (a blue on blue training exercise) would be great to see.
French AMX-10P infanty plts replace 1 LRAC with an APILAS not add an extra team , which 57 seconds in seems to show . 🤔
As always, love the TY-content, so cheers for that 👍🏻
Few points:
- The mustache like that on a French player should earn +1 morale.
- Dies like that should be banned. They knock around walls, units. It's like throwing rocks on the table. Is there some deep reason he uses them?
- Moving Shilkas first time, couldn't you have issued Cross Here -order to make crossing in the woods one easier, as they weren't going to shoot anyway?
- Commander spotting for arty. Rule 3 Select aiming point (p. 52), it says the ranged in marker is placed on a spot within LOS. Rule about LOS (p. 40) says that LOS is blocked by friendly teams, other than infantry. So, he couldn't have seen through all those tanks to spot, right?
Thanks for the comments and yes, Sean loves his Casino dice. Regarding LOS for Spotters this was addressed in the latest Field Manual 101
"A Spotting team must have Line Of Sight to the Aiming Point when Ranging In. Do friendly teams block Line of Sight for spotting?
No. Ignore friendly teams when determining Line of Sight for Spotting purposes."
@@AllMiniaturesGreatandSmall Ah, didn't realise to check FAQ, thanks for that 😄 Haha, he does? Well, then maybe a throwing tray then? I fear for your figures whenever he throws 😜
And throwing tray would make sure us viewers always get to see the results too, dice not landing behind a building or something 😄
Yeah, I was going to say those dice.. I find them outright rude to use. The hard edges and corners combined with their weight damage paintjobs and break things off models, too, even on terrain. Use them in a tray or don't use them at all. I loved the batrep, but everytime those dice dinked models and terrain I cringed hard.
Excellent game! Well done!
Great TY batrep as always. In Polish T1, do the tanks have a moving ROF for their missiles when shooting at the AA? Most missiles can't move and fire. In French T1 helicopters are affected by danger close (they hate flying through falling arty shells) and that arty on the woods looks pretty close to the Gazelle gunslingers. At 1 hr:06 min when the Polish armour gets just one tank in for a close assault on the defending French infantry that is bailed it would not be pushed back (IMHO). It needs 2 hits to have an assault fail. (The other tanks bogged in the woods.) You would have close combat and the one bailed tank could not hit. If the French counter attack they would auto destroy the bailed tank and possibly contact other tanks within 4" with no defensive fire. If the Polish failed to ocunter attack they all have to fall back. The Shilas wiping out the gunslingers is why you always fire at the AA first. I think when transports are running without infantry they act as a separate unit for morale purposes. (Not positive.) So that lone BMP-2 maybe should have been taking last stand checks. Great sorry. I'm not trying to be mean. Just a few minor rules. For terrain I find you have to have hills in TY to block LOS because everything has long range and no range penalty. It is hard to hide without hills.
Thanks for the comments. The T-72b missile has a moving rate of fire. Does make it handy. Regarding the assault this is how we saw it. Only one tank made it into assault, so there is only one "assaulting team". With only one assaulting tank defense fire only needed to bail/kill that one tank to stop the assault. Cheers
Spot on regarding the assault. If only one team can reach the enemy, then that team becomes an assaulting team only. The rest don't participate. And if that tank gets bailed during defensive fire, it's pushed back and no assault happens.
I would love to see you modify some of your polish tanks into PT-91 Twardy’s!
Why are you using top armor against helicopter shots?
I'm not sure when you were referring to?
Rally infantry french is 4+
Hot helos in reserve, I find to be bad idea as you may get them on the table, however, you have to wait to use them next turn due to no moving ROF, this is why I find mephisto's to be a better platform plus are also cheaper. gunslinger gazelles are the best helo in the game.
Yea I was hoping the Poles would select the attack stance or I would of gotten attacker in a mission like this one. I have been able to get them in with missions that have the turn 6 win condition.
I am trying to paint up another list that can attack and have 4 Hot gazelles on the table
Nice!!!!
French run on anything less then a 5. as you test on morale to stay not rally.
Yeah,I played the rally and morale in reverse this game by mistake.
The French have normaly a 4+ to remount and 5+ last stand. So in some situations Monsieur Mustache mixed it up. And why weren´t all those Anti-Helicopter 20mm guns used against the Hinds?
Je suis désolé yeah got the my French mixed up with my Czechoslovak I was working on. I just went after the Dana’s cause I just wanted to last one more turn and did not want to lose that last APILA.
@@seanyoung3656 Mixing the stats could happen in the heat of the battle. And the French and Czech flag share the same colours so that is understandable 😅 By 20mm Anti-Helicopter I meant your AMX-10P and AMX-30 that could have fire on the Hinds in Defence. But in the end things like that could also be missed in the heat of the ballte. Anyway you fought also a battle versus the dice (late reserves which arrived on the total wrong spot, John got his reserve very early and all at the same side) and you faced one of the biggest weekness of the french own reserves. But I like your paint job. Great work.
I believe that's France vs Poland or French vs Polish., How can you not even get the title right.