THE LIFE OF ZEKE... || GERMAN watches Attack on Titan 4x15 - BLIND REACT-ANALYSIS
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Another downer, but also a lot of thought provoking stuff again. =) Really cool episode!
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I don’t think you understand the Marley’s are right. The Grandfather is right, what do you mean that this history is false? This history is accurate. Grisha it’s just a moron, pointing at pictures making things up until he can convince himself to mean what he needs them to mean. You need to accept the eldians in the past were terrible people.
Does it have a manuscript or something I can read instead? :)
@@lmntxo2678 I can upload it on patreon for free, if you like! =)
@@storieswithstyle Oh, right! That's one way to do it; however, I don't have a Patreon acct yet, so I'll get back to you on that one. :D
@@lmntxo2678 www.wattpad.com/story/370918766-the-waters-that-hated Does that work? :D
I remember when we learned Keiths backstory and right before Grisha took Eren into the forest to turn him Keith asks "are you going to curse somebody else now?" Grisha then turned around to look at Keith and he had a shook look in his eyes, because he knew he was cursing Eren just like he cursed Zeke. The writing in this show is brilliant.
Holy s, you are absolutely right. Can't wait for the rewatch :D
@@storieswithstylespeaking of rewatch are you open to the idea of rewatching AoT because it's the kind of show that's best watch twice, maybe in the future?
@@storieswithstyle The re-watch will actually blow your mind with how much foreshadowing and little things like these are in the entire show. It's really well written and made for a rewatch.
Pretty sure Kyle has finished the anime so this should be safe but just in case
SPOILERS:
At this point Grisha has had Eren influencing him through memories so he knows 100% that he is not cursing Eren with expectations if anything Eren cursed his dad.
Though you could say he knows that by doing this Eren is cursed and unable to change his fate
@@marshallgaming4422 he knows he is still shortening his son's life again, whether he is being influenced or not.
Eren ate his dad, and Zeke ate the dad he chose. They really are brothers!
hahaha true :D
omg thats so dark xD
oof
“The Vow Renouncing War” is literally the epigenetic will of King Karl Fritz the 145th Eldian King that built the walls, moved as many Eldians to Paradise as he could & wiped their memories. The Vow is what possesses Royal Blood inheritors of the Founding Titan & overrides their will. It’s why Frieda, Uri, & Uri/Rod’s Father would do nothing to save humanity within the walls. (it’s also extremely fortunate that Historia did not eat Eren in season 3. She would have immediately been shackled by the vow & wiped everyone’s memories again.)Hange literally explained it in season 3 episode 8 +21.
It’s why Grisha killed Frieda & ate the Founder to take it out of Royal Blooded hands so that something could finally be done after 100 years of allowing Marley to trample over their people. As long as the founder resides in an Eldian without Royal Blood, the vow does not possess that person. The Founding Titan is dormant. To get around the Vow & use the Founder’s full power a Titan with Royal Blood had to physically touch the Founder’s host. I.E. Eren & Zeke. Eren & Dina.
Regarding Zeke's attitude towards Grisha and Ksaver:
In the scene of Beast Titan succession ritual, he calls Ksaver "o-tou-san", which is a normal way of addressing one's own father in Japanese.
On the other hand, when thinking about Grisha, Zeke usually calls him "ano chichi-oya" _(translated here as "that father")_ or just "chichi-oya". "Chichi-oya" is a rather impersonal way of talking about somebody's father, practically how e.g. an institution would talk about somebody's father. Adding the demonstrative attribute "ano" _("that")_ to it emphasizes Zeke's emotional distancing from Grisha even more.
Also referring to himself as “Grisha’s Former Son”
Yea my man was still holding feels for his father that is why he called him ‘that father’ lol
He only wanted LOVE FROM HIM 🥲
I think you read something wrong. Zeke never wanted to snitch on his parents, he told Ksaver about they're gonna get caught was just saying goodbye before their whole family got sentenced, it was Ksaver half forcing him to report them to at least save Zeke and his grandparents, thus using the manipulative wording of "your parents never loved you".
Grisha didnt intentionally shortened zeke’s lifespan, he didnt knew about the 13 years, he learned it after he was saved by the owl
I always found that Zeke using the baseball throws as a titan is taking something "pure" and a moment of happiness and twisting it to something horrific
Poor Grisha. Zeke is the kind of son Grisha wanted in Paradis, while Eren is the kind of son Grisha wanted in Marley. It's like fate is cruel and swapped them on purpose just to torment Grisha.
Well it’s thanks to CARLA (eren’s mom) that eren didn’t grew up like zeke
Grisha didn’t forced eren to do it
Notice how Grisha only told eren that he will tell him about the basement when he was READY otherwise he wasn’t even gonna tell
And I think he actually HAD medical stuff to do inside the walls like he said in ep1 but postponed it and went to the church instead where Reiss family was
In this show we were taught not to hate our enemies blindly, we grew to like and love characters like Armour titan (Reiner), colossal titan (Berthold), female titan (annie) and we already love car titan (pieck because she is cute) and now we grew to like Zeke (beast titan) as a character after watching this episode.
And RIP Captain Levi, you’ll be missed (a lot)
I agree with you here l love Reiner and Annie and pieck are my top have nice day💗
"Isn't war a terrible thing?" -Zeke, in season 4's episode 1.
Some might interpret that as him being sarcastic or even just a throwaway line, but it's actually something he strongly feels for. And as seen in this episode, something he picked up for Ksaver.
The Last of Us explores that notion of saving ones "child" or basically the entire human race very well. idk if thats what you were referring to or remembering if youve seen the show or played the game it has a central theme of that within the story done amazingly.
Yeah, really like that ending. =) I was thinking about snowpiercer though, I think :D
42:18 Either Gabi or Udo early in season 4 said that "the hate Eldians get in Marley compared to internationally is like childsplay" Marleyans may hate Eldians but the world HATES them even more.
Yes, they are Marley weapons, of course they dont hate as much as people who they use the Eldians on
Tom Ksaver appeared in Grisha memory (S3) but we just thought he was a random guy.
"That's a great throw, you could really kill some people on horses with that." 💀
Mr. Ksaver's Beast Titan is a Sheep, so it's not useful in war. Every Beast Titan is a different animal. (just like the last scene we saw in the op of season 2.) Which animal the person will become is affected by personality and some factors we do not know.
Sacrificing kids is the theme of the whole show. Death is not the only way you can end a kid's life, being sent into war has the same effect.
Dr Ksaver is like Zeke's real father
I am just curious how Dr Ksaver became beast titan because of his calm demeanor
Last but not least, RIP Levi, shinzou wo sasageyo
My hero, my captain, my angel, my Lord, my king, my savior, LEVI, rest in power man, you are always the best for me
He’s alive
Well, I guess RIP Levi Ackerman 😭 we just lost our strongest soldier
He finished the show, he knows he’s alive
love the inception "disappointed" reference lol
Such a masterpiece =D
Inception is one of my fav movies and it deserves more recognition.
There is a teeny tiny Easter egg on this episode that I never noticed until I watched this reaction… I think because of the pauses… it’s in the scene when Ksaver talks about his wife and son… there is something in this scene that you don’t understand the significance of until you watch the very last episode (the final final 90 minute special thing, not the last episode of this season).
Yes, there are 2 "people" and an okapi :D
"Eren maybe want to be freed from all of his past self pain" There are no best quote to describe it.
I would correct it to "pain of his whole people" after finishing the show, though :D
@@storieswithstyle Is it trully different ? He made their pain his pain. He took them on his shoulders by choice also. Even if there is a time paradox where you can't say whose will was first and lead them all, he accepted it. It will, of course, drive you mad. It's christic in some ways...
@@storieswithstyle I hope you will react to openings and endings's lyrics later. A lot of them are about Eren and Mikasa's feelings. It's very interesting, tragic and beatifull in the same time. I espacially loved Akuma no Ko. It say everything. The lyrics are even Eren's pov. There is also the song during the ending episode. "To you in 2000... or 20 000 years in the future." The lyrics are so meaningful, song by the voice of Mikasa and later by another voice. There is the last opening with this symbol of the fire arrow from the first seasons. And now you'll may be understand what it meant.
“I would sacrifice every son and every daughter for the cause” that’s a crazy way to phrase it that makes me respect Zeke a bit more, unfortunately lol. He really did not settle for one upping has father, he wants to take everything with him to the finish line and leave nothing left after.
we are close to the new opening and the best
I remember back then when I read AoT manga, I stopped reading it because Levi is f died😭
I was so angry when they killed my man, Levi, just like I was so angry when they killed Itachi in Narutoverse
Rest In Peace Levi Ackerman, thank you for always inspiring me to never give up and to keep moving forward in this evilandcruel world. I won't watch this anymore, farewell my hero, Levi, SAYONARA
He’s alive
Is Zeke's plan really unethical? Or even further, is giving birth even ethical in the first place? If you choose to not give birth to a child, you created nothing, the "not existing child" cannot feel if it's worthy or not to exist. On the contrary, a child being born may decide it's worthy or not to be born and suffer the cruelty of this world. What if they don't? They don't even get the chance to consent if to be born or not. To me, the only way to prove Zeke is wrong, is for the parents being capable of proving life is worth living, which I doubt enough parents had ever considered before having children.
I agree, though it is also additionally to that linked to the fact that procreation is in our genes. Like, that is how the world is. CHoseing to be aginst it is basically giving up in evolutionary terms, thus justifying the disappearance of once species against others that are perhaps even more influenced by suffering.
I agree. Zeke's plan is probably the most ethical way to deal with such a dark situation. Life would pretty much be normal, except not having kids. That might actually be a good thing for some people lol.
@@japan100100 No, it is not ethical. I have seen someone that could not get children and try. believe me, one of the most devastating things I ever had to watch. Saying that is ethical is not really understanding what that would rally mean for people. You would send them through arguably worse suffering than a war might. =(
@@storieswithstyle Im not saying it is ethical, but given the other options, it's a less invasive and brutal measure. No doubt some people would be hurt mentally by such a thing, but having Eren destroy the world through by a merciless massacre of the entire world might be less ethical than Zeke's plan, in my opinion anyway.
@@japan100100 I am not convinced zeke's plan woul dhave stopped anyone. They already nuked the harbor and Liberio, marley, so the GA would not have just "stopped" bechuse they went like "hey, guys, we are not titans anymore" :D But what the most ethical thinkg would ahve bbeen is indeed complicated, I think. There will definitely be some discussions about that in the future. =)
2:50 technically yes, that's one of the reasons
4:31 nope, to the royal blood
5:48 no, the Eldian Empire used the Pure Titans, Marley started using Eldians only after the Great Titan War
8:55 they just believed what they wanted to believe, just like the Owl said: "there's no truth, everyone can be a God or a Devil, all it takes is for someone to believe it"
11:14 because it changes from person to person, the only one that can throw very hard is Zeke's one
42:57 nope, it's just himself in the present seeing the past
33:58 I always ask myself when trying to put myself in Eren's shoes: Would I try to destroy the world if I knew for a fact that it would save my friends? It's such a difficult moral question.
I know my answer, and it yes. The people i care for and love matters to me more than anyone else. I will protect them, no matter what i have to do
The problem though is that was never on the table and not his prime motive, but we should discuss that in the "after aot" streams =) Had it been that simple, I would have probs chosen friends/family as well.
The responses here are scary... wtf
@@coconutmilk2196 There is a devil in everyone
@@Pherim_what the fuck
Operating under the memory that you’ve finished the show, while I agree with every label you threw at Zeke’s plan, given everything we know about the world, alternative plans that existed within the characters’ minds, and their feasibility, I think Zeke’s plan, horrifying as it was, is the plan I would have supported
There were many better plans imo. The problem with this and Eren's is they want to stop playing the game of society and flip the table. Both plans would have changed absolutely nothing in the long run. I would be interested to discuss this though one day (and will) in more detail, as I think talking about it might get hard due to implicit assumptions of the situation (which would need to be cleared up first for an in-depth discussion). =) But I will def do a "was Eren right?" and "Was zeke right" vid/stream/discussion, as it is by no means easy. =)
@@storieswithstyle I think I should clarify I meant of the “existing plans”. If we consider all possible plans, including the ones not thought of by the characters then yea there ought to be a better one. I’m more thinking from the standpoint of, if I lived in the Titan universe as an average Eldian, based on the available information, which one would I have picked.
Certainly a fascinating discussion to be had and way more complex than I think the general fandom gave it credit for. Though, I would say, not even Eren himself think he was right
The important bit, which the author nails, is to make all the choices logical from the point of view of the person who makes said choice.
That goes for every character in the show, not just these two.
I don't think it's a good plan. imagining that they can carry out the plan, all it takes is for the next person to inherit the founding titan to change their mind and decide they don't want euthanization. And that's it, all Eldians can have children again. not to mention that even if this doesn't happen, the Eldians will never truly be free. They will remain imprisoned until everyone dies of old age. Although they are most likely to be killed, because they will no longer be useful.
That as well :)
Someone who can't sacrifice anything, can never change anything! In order to overcome a monster, you must be willing to throw aside your humanity.
When people talk about humanity they sometimes become detached, its not humanity in general its your father, mother, wife, cousins, grandparents, sister and your sons included.
Do you sacrifice your son for the future or let him live to be abused and torture and god knows what else? I don't know the answer.
these videos genuinely bring me joy, i binged this channels whole 3 body problem reaction and now im spending all night on the AOT reactions
the beast titan manifest differently in every person.. so Ksavar's beast was not very helpful .. it wasn't a monkey
Oh no Levi dieeeeddd😞
On the question of child vs humanity, even as someone who considers herself to be quite logical (and also not yet a parent), I'm *certain* that I'd choose to save my child.
I saw the length and immediately knew this would be a good one HAHA
The contrast between Zeke and Eren's ideologies is so perfect, like, literature-analysis-wise.
People praise Isayama's writing, but fewer realize his visual storytelling prowess. There is actually a pretty cool panel in the manga version of the episode before this, that subtly hints at their ideologies (and some have picked-up on in the new-chapter-release discussions). When Zeke was being carried by a titan before being reck't by Levi
When Zeke was monologuing about how the military and Levi couldn't grasp that they had no time, and was saying that him and Eren will soon meet:
The page panelling was like top left: Zeke's closeup, middle: bird's eye view of the forest (where he was trying to escape from) turning into barren plains, then bottom right: closeup of Eren's face. Eren's face was aligned with the lushful forest part, while Zeke's face was aligned with the barren plains part.
34:39 Hearing you describe this had caused me to come to a realization: Fate/Zero would probably be an anime which is right up your alley. It has some very interesting exploration of human nature, what it means to be a hero, and what sacrifices are justifiable for the sake of a greater good.
14:51 This reasoning is most apt, by the way. It is the equivalent of abandoning humanity for the sake of one's goals--- being so consumed by vanity and prideful conviction that one believes one's goals above the continuance and prosperity of the species. True viciousness, this.
18:00 listen carefully to the sound, Grisha hits the table
I'm not sure if there's a better word than "nihilism" for the "striving toward nothingness" that Zeke advocates for the future of Eldians. However, it does put me in mind of Mephistopheles declaration in Faust: "I repudiate all things-because everything that has been made is unworthy to exist and ought to be destroyed, and therefore it is better that nothing should ever have been made."
It seems that Zeke is a "devil" after all...
I feel like that's missing the point... there IS a very convenient way to wipe out all of humanity once you got the Founding Titan and a royal blooded Eldian on the same page. But Zeke's plan involves no further bloodshed - only for his people to live long lives in safety and for the power of the titans to vanish in 100 years time. No more titan warfare, no more people getting turned into weapons of mass destruction (I feel like Mephistopheles, the "strange son of chaos", would be a big fan of titan wars by the way). Zeke wants a better world, just without the Eldian race in it. Is this really "nihilism"?
@@simon_lukas The belief it would be preferable not to have been born, not just one's self, but all future generations who *might* know suffering, strikes me as inherently nihilistic, yes.
It's called anti-natalism, and is a form of nihilism.
@@simon_lukas I don't think I would call it nihilism exactly. I'm honestly not sure what to call it, just not nihilism.
I have thought about the concept of "not being born" and it's not as straightforward of a topic as it initially seems.
For example, there are some religions that advocate things like "contraceptives are bad because they prevent births that could have potentially happened". But that is a flawed argument because if we're talking "potential lives", the logical end point of that train of thought is that every single time a woman could have gotten pregnant but didn't would mean a "lost life", and that view point very quickly implodes because it's not even remotely realistic.
In fact, if you really want to draw it as far as possible, you could say that in a future where we master cloning tech, every time we don't use it to create a clone we are "losing a potential life".
Now I'm a strong believer in the notion that children deserve to be wanted, and that there are few greater tragedies than unwanted children being born to parents who don't love them.
So I'm a VERY strong advocate for contraceptives because accidental pregnancies can ruin not just the unwanted child's life.
Then there's also my past as personal assisstant to people with disabilities.
Now, I have nothing but respect for people who manage to live fulfilling lives despite having horrible, incurable disabilities, and those people deserve all the praise and support in the world.
However, I will never think that they deserve to suffer from those illnesses.
Nobody deserves to be born with such curses.
One woman I worked for had a rare, heritable illness, and she was very clear about the fact that she didn't want to have kids because she didn't want to pass her curse onto a child.
@@danielrodrigues4903 Anti-natalism is not necessarily nihilist. The fundamental precept of nihilism is that there is no value, or at least no universal value (more precisely, existential nihilism, but other forms of nihilism follow similar reasoning or do not apply here). But it is rather easy to arrive at anti-natalism from a position that ascribes universal value to things. For example, someone believing very strongly in the idea of autonomy and that we should not do things to others without their consent might observe that children cannot consent to being born, and therefore that children should not be born. Similarly, Zeke very clearly believes that there is enormous value in preventing suffering, at least on larger scales, and so does not really fit nihilism.
I can't believe Levi died, they killed him so unceremoniously. I stopped watching the show because of this.
R.I.P. Levi
Yeah, he was the goat =(
If thats really the reason, then allow me to spoil you and tell you.
Levi did not die there, so you may now go back and continue the anime
@@Pherim_dude no it’s just an “Oh no eren died” that the comments do in season 1 😭
Eren : I felt it, too
Vow renouncing war was explained already, watch 3x8, 3x21 and 4x5 again where it's talked about.
Yeah, i missed it in 4x5
Warhammer 40k is another setting that constantly asks the question "Is it justifiable to do evil acts for a good cause?"
In that particular case it's "do something evil to prevent the complete and total excinction of humanity", the most clear cut such case being when they execute people who have come into contact with demons.
Because if they don't, those people can later become the acritects of a new demonic incursion that will end up claiming the lives of millions (because even just looking at a chaos demon is enough to corrupt normal people).
It also counters it's own question with another question, "If humanity becomes this evil to survive, do they deserve to survive?".
Both questions are equally relevant within that setting, and it's what makes the characters who are trying to be good men in that universe so damn compelling.
In theory, if you can alter the genes of Eldians, could you not simply make it so that Eldians can't become Titans, like the rest of the world?
Yeah, I also thought the same, but it is explained later. =)
I think with the criticism of Grisha, the thing that seems to be forgotten is what Grisha is a product of. His drive to restore the Eldian empire and to bring down Marley is due to his history when he was a child, when he took Fay to follow the airship and essentially cause her death (although he finds out later how she dies). That is what leads him to join the restorationist movement and that is what drives him to push Zeke to become a Warrior… but even Grisha has regrets about that when in the previous flashback episode that gives Grisha’s backstory, he says, “But if anyone, I should have known how terrible the sin to besmirch one’s beliefs on your children… not as a child of royal blood… Not as the hope of restoring Eldia… But as my son Zeke, had I ever thought of him that way?”
As Kenny said… “Everyone had to be drunk on somethin’ to keep pushing on… Everyone… was a slave to somethin’.”
So this is the world:
1. Eldians are taken over by Jeagerists, who want to destroy the world and rebuilt an Eldian empire on mass murdering millions/billions
2. You know Eren's plan but no spoilers in case someone's watching this videos while actually watching the show for the first time.
3. The rest of the world hates Eldians and want to kill them all.
4. Zeke wants to stop Eldians from having kids. It's not about killing people, but about not making new people.
All of them are horrible and evil in many ways, but knowing everything, Zeke's solution was the least evil of them all. One might say... the most humane way of resolving a situation with no good solutions.
You said from a Zeke POV "I would sacrifice every son and every daughter". WRONG. He doesn't want to sacrifice any children. He wants to stop people from having more children.
Believe me, I know people that try to get childrne and can't. it is almost as horrific as losing them. So no, I disagree, Zeke was the cruellest, I think...
@@storieswithstyle You just said it. It's ALMOST as horrific, right? All the other options mean losing children that actually exist. Yes, it's cruel. All of those plans are cruel. I think those that kill actual people and actual children are far more cruel.
*Manga Spoilers ahead*:
So in the End, the Final Choice of AoT was: "Pick your flavor of Genocide. Free for All or Friendly Fire?"
I did read it really differently, but I can that perspective, I think :D
35:46 I am not a parent, but I believe I have some insight into this matter: one ought to choose humanity, assuming the question is indeed about a race in a sense of species, rather than an ethnic group of some sort. This is specifically because to choose the child would in fact be to curse them to a fate worse than death. Loneliness, leading into insanity, leading to an eventual slow and painful death. I would not want to curse someone like that, especially if they were my own progeny. It would be a betrayal of them, despite what one's parental instincts might cause one to think.
Now: I still maintain that one should not actively choose to kill one's child, or to put them into a situation like Zeke was put in, where their death is inevitable, and you are choosing to abuse them for the sake of a greater cause. Grisha and Dina were wrong. If one is in a position where saving one's child would prevent one from saving everyone else, however, *then* the moral imperatives stack against the choice that one's heart would tug one toward. One would in fact be the worst person in all of history, I should say, if one makes the choice to save one's child, then. It is actually putting one's self in a position where the temporary relief one would feel for protecting them is weighed as of greater importance than anything else. This is selfish to the utmost.
Lastly: I should say that this does not mean, for example, that Superman's parents were wrong to save him and send him to another planet. If one is in a position where one *cannot* save the entirety of your people, and you have resources limited to the extent you can only save one person, choosing one's child is not *necessarily* so bad of an option; however, I would say it is only reasonable in this case because the family in question knew that there were potential surrogates on the world they were sending him to. Even if they had robots and computer programs that could help raise their child and prevent his insanity, it is questionable for a parent to choose to subject one's child to that sort of loneliness and desolation of the soul if there is no hope for any other living things of a similar sort in the future. No aliens known to exist would mean sending young Kal-El to even a planet that was known to be inhabitable but not to have sapient life would be a borderline case, where it is tantamount to child abuse.
Considering you have finished the series, there's a possible true plan than gonna grant peace for the world: Complete Rumbling. By eliminate everyone that is not eldian, you leave the world with a race of beings that are all connected together at 1 root. Everyone in the world in that scenario will all answer to the Founding Titan and there wont be any internal disputes as long as the founder remain in power and doesn't flip out like karl fritz
45:29 One day, I want to write a book on this matter. I have some rather well-developed ideas about the nature of ethics and its poles, but need the time and the resources to properly put it together with citations and whatnot.
59:10 Interesting that you brought up Mikasa here. I had to check if you've already watched Mikasa's OVA. And I think you said you'd watch it near the end of the series... But good catch though...
No, have not watched it. Will do that soon! =)
14:17 Indeed. Child sacrifice, literal or metaphorical, is one of the most heinous things one can do, and is definitely a road to perdition. It is an utter perversion and inversion of the role a parent should naturally possess in a child's life, and an utter failure on the individuals' parts as human beings. As such, there can be no doubt: Justice demands such people fall under a most baleful curse. This is one of the purest examples of evil that has ever existed.
Will you do a final review of AoT as a whole, it's strengths and it's weakness?
For anime recommendations:
-Now and then, here and there
-re:creators
-sagrada reset
Yes, I plan on doing a lot of "after" content, like character/season/episode tier list unanswered questions, character deep dives etc. =)
34:31 Inaction is also an answer to the trolley problem. Not choosing is also a valid choice. Do you choose to forfeit your child or do you choose to doom the world? I choose neither, I just choose to keep my child and live my own life, not because I want to doom the world, but because I have a right to stay outside of it, to be neutral. The Eldians living regular (though sub-standard in quality) lives in Liberio weren't evil for not fighting the Marleyan regime, they just decided to live their lives in what way they could rather than dying trying to change it, and this doesn't have to mean they wanted Eldians to be slaves.
44:33 I want to add that I agree with Zeke's method, but I also agree it is inherently evil because by making the choice he immediately removes the capability of choice from every other Eldian. To expand on the thought from the last comment, I also think that in some situations the simple fact of choosing is evil, because sometimes there is no good option, and you really just have to pick the lesser of evils.
But what if what you think is good isn't for others? In the current state of the story we know that the Eldians are already widely feared worldwide and that people outside Marley hate them even more than Marelyans. And we also know that the Eldians ARE indeed incredibly dangerous potentially just for the fact that they can become titans. They will only remain safe as long as they can keep that fear over the rest of the world, but as we saw at the beginning of this season, titans are already being overpowered by technology, how long till the rest of the world makes their own move and destroy Paradise? Zeke's option is the lesser evil. They can even try to use the sterilization and their assured extinction as a diplomatic card to convince the rest of the world to leave them alone until they die out. Horribly dark, but when has anything not being dark in this show? lol.
I am however, thinking this and choosing this path because as an spectator of this very well crafted fictional story, I have information on the world a single person on the story would not, and in real life we would also never be able to have the required information to make such a pragmatic and informed choice.
So, it felt like you missed that Zeke wasn't going to turn his parents in until Tom convinced him, he thought they were about to be caught.
This show is one that helped me decide that i won't subscribe to simplified notions of good and evil, that they are subjective concepts.
The titans that presumably caused "the Horrors of Valle and Ravaging of Monte" were probably normal titans that were turned from people who were born out of the forced breeding of Eldians and people they conquered during the reign of the Eldian Empire. Those titans were also probably controlled by the Founding Titan, since before the founding of the Wall civilisation of Paradis by King Fritz who was a pacifist, the Royal Family was not bounded by his Vow Renouncing War.
Also, I'm saying this with the assumption that the stories might have been true to some extent. We don't know for sure how accurate the history told by Marley nor by the Restorationist, since both groups use the telling of history to further their respective propaganda and aims. In a way, the show is teaching the audience not to assume history as objective especially when evidence is not clearly shown. It really depends on who tells the story, their intentions and the sources they use. In this case, the audience have no access to seeing the actual events, and have to rely on accounts by both sides.
one of the most impactful episodes. The only better ones are s4 ep 20, 21
33:49 Reminiscent of The Last of Us's Joel. He chose Ellie, though.
I would have done the same, actually. He just handled the aftermath like shit :D
@@storieswithstyle Yeah, but the thing is that Ellie would've been fine being the sacrificial lamb.
@@lmntxo2678 Yes, that was the conundrum and made it compllicated :D
@@storieswithstyle Are you planning to create a separate video to share your thoughts on AoT after the last episode, or will you include that in the video of the last episode?
Will do several Live discussions as a single video would not cover close to enough 👍
Hi CIA!
Does German use the neuter “Das” for whatever their word for “child” is? I notice you use the pronoun “It” referring to a child - just thought that was interesting.
Yep :D it is indeed neuter :D
Sounds like you should watch The Last of Us
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Just here to comment that Zeke is the most pathetic loser of a character in ALL of Attack On Titan, true defeatist mentality and mindset a true loser. NEVER become like Zeke!
Wow what a narrow minded viewpoint on someone who’s life was greatly affected by other people.
@@seancarroll5803 His ideology and perspective literally boils down to him just giving up, sorry that shit is for losers. As is the perspective that it'd be better for ANYONE to have never been born at all. Viewing life in it's infinite possibilities in that narrow of a binary is the problem, not me who is PROPERLY calling out such mental retardation.
I dont agree with you here my friend have nice day
@@user-uu1hv8nv6i Better retort to my comment than sean above you. I don't mind people having a different opinion but people who view life and existence as a zero sum game (Zeke and people who think like him) are the true LOWEST of the low to me of our species. They wouldn't have us do anything great, just fizzle out into nothing.