Reactions To Michael Jackson Documentary 'Leaving Neverland'
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Last night (Mar 3), HBO aired its first part of two, 2-hour episodes in which Wade Robson and James Safechuck and their families remember their time and experiences with Michael Jackson including allegations of sexual assault.
Ebro in the Morning discuss part one, and get reactions from callers following the show.
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People are often lazy to do their own research in order to form their own opinion
Facts
Claire Legrand what research did you do???
@@meldismal174 more than you!
Exactly. Now we know how much the accusers have lied and understand the motivation behind the lies they keep telling. MJ was never a child molester.
Ebro doesn’t wanna watch or actually know the details , but sure as hell has an opinion on it . This is the prime example of “old man” attitudes in hip hop that make kids see OGs as corny
Brent T Liminal facts!!!! He was found NOT Guilty!!!!!!!!
Trey Diggz L
Micheal isn't hip hop he's the king of pop and EBRO was there and the issue is people that weren't around then didn't know the racial climate or tactics are looking back and judging a man that can't vouch for himself because when he was alive they didn't have enough proof and also admitted to lying on the stand. At the end of the day people tryna act like after oj they really was letting black men attack white women and children when in reality Clinton predator laws show in numbers the opposite so there's no way these men weren't gliding through the he system in the 90s for stuff that happen in the 70s and 80s...it's stupid and neglectfully racist to even think that way
@Trey Diggz thanks wasn't sure he definitely sounded white like oblivious to black issues
Brent T Liminal these clowns aren’t Hiphop
I really hate people when they talk out of ignorance. Do ur research people!!!
Mamduh Baruud Same. Most ppl empathizing with the accusers have never been molested or don’t understand how biased Leaving Neverland is and that there are certain ethics to making a documentary of this nature. Sadly, greed and resentment are driving forces for this mockery.
Your just another blind fanatic
Mamduh Baruud EXACTLY!!! I CALL THIS INTELLECTUAL IGNORANCE
that money can be used as an argument for both side we can only say michael jackson use money to shut up the accusers which he did for Jordie and the second accussed Jason Francia who testified in court
Mamduh Baruud thank you! It’s so sick even dumbass comments about his skin and race.
The fact is they searched mj house when he was out of town and found nothing you think they would of found some thing .
But they didnt know about the secret compartments
And what were they supposed to find? Naked pictures? I think mj was a little smarter than that
anthony cheesman they did find weird pornographic magazines
Not if hes like R kellly. They cover their fuckn tracks. R kelly taped his encounters. Thats the only reason y hes being brought dwn.
It's sad to see someone apologize for child rape just because someone is a musical legend
I can't lose respect for Hot97 because I never had it
😂
It's spelled lose.
Hot 97 is disgusting
the fact you left this message suggests otherwise.
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Wade left out the part where he was in actual relationship with Michael Jackson niece for 7 years. Michael set them up.
Why would he name drop with whom he had relations? It has nothing to do with the issue.
And how would you know he didn't mention it - maybe it just didn't make it into the documentary because it is not of importance or just to personal.
I certainly would not like to be mentioned in a documentary in which my uncle was accused of molestion. It's actually pretty decent not to do such a thing!
Or are you implying that child abuse vicitms have to be incapable of having a relationships or normal sex?
@@hinglemccringleberry7265 These two shady characters, Wade and James seem to be subtly promoting child prostitution. Do you know these two treacherous characters are trying to win an appeal to sue MJJ Estates for 1.62 billion dollars for the 3rd time? Their first cases were dismissed and thrown out of court; too many inconsistencies. Why do they want all of this evil child molestation money in their possession?
Michael Jackson is totally innocent - May He Rest In Peace!
@@hinglemccringleberry7265 Wade claimed MJ abused him at the train station which wasn't built at the time. Robson also claimed that spent Thanksgiving with Michael in 1987 but he was out doing his bad tour in australia. That's proof Robson is a lier. Safechuck in his lawsuit claimed that he was abused by MJ in New York, in 1989 after he performed at the Grammys. But the Grammys were in Los Angeles that year and MJ didn't perform at the Grammys in 1989. That's proof Safechuck is a lier! Just cause Michael was different then most people doesn't make him a pedophile.
@@DontBurnYourHome Thank you.
@@Metallicgld12 And now the courts have thrown both cases out again. This whole circus is ridiculous and these radio show hosts are just plain stupid. They have no powers of discernment and drank the toxic Kool-Aid Robson and Safechuck provided faster than Jim Jones' flock. Idiots.
Kinda disappointed/surprised at hot 97 taking this approach
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Its real lame
They just mad Taj Jackson didnt call them for the exclusive interview debunking the documentary 😂
I'm not the hypocrites and they got to save their job but a Rosenberg is always been a low-key devil nothing comes out of his mouth that I respect or trust
They needa make a Elvis documentary if they gonna start digging. These networks just pick and choose who they want to (mainly black) to bash but avoid other. Foh 97 smd
Rosenberg and Ebro are super corny
Agreed. Rosenberg in particular. He gave way too much energy in this clip. I'd like to see his reaction when one of his deceased heroes gets exposed.
@@K_Truth7 Rosenberg has always painted Michael Jackson in a bad light
awww, because they said something you disagree with? You only listen to people you agree with?
@@0hMyGandhi do you only listen to the one sided documentary ?which was proven to be false by fans who were at Neverland, by family,close friends and people who had direct contact with him. The girl friend of Wade Robeson is even denying all this as they were actually dating at the time during in which Robeson supposedly says he was spending time with Jackson, Michael was the one who hooked Wade up with his niece I bet you didn't know that did you??
@@SilverNrGy985 I am speaking with Derrick, not you. And yes, I did know that.
But Derrick is lambasting the people on this show for their feelings on a particular subject, and implying that their thoughts on it don't matter or are irrelevant.
You need to direct your ire at most people in the comment section. Don't speak about inherent issues with fairness, while trying to call me out for offering a dissenting opinion. That's being hypocritical.
Everyone seem to forget Micheal Jackson never was convicted in the court of law period.
Opinions, Facts And Logic I never said turn a blind eye read and comprehend idiot
The FBI never found any evidence to convict both guys testified in MJ’s defense
correct but theres alot of black people wrongly or strongly convicted, wheres your energy there
ryanb01 correct, round them all up without boundaries don’t pick and choice who you are going after base on ratings and money child trafficking human trafficker etc etc
Opinions, Weinstein
Can we discuss the perjury part? They lied under oath
Exactly. Why wasnt that included in this documentary. Frauds.
@Denise Pabon - Are you kidding? It was in the documentary. Part 2. It covers the trial and the reason why he perjured. Everyone was at Michael’s house during the trial and Robson saw MJ’s daughter Paris was trying to get Michael’s attention because he was “not there” and lifeless, and Robson couldn’t imagine him dying/going to jail and keeping his daughter away from him. So he said okay I’ll lie for you.
Only Wade went to court
Facts but they are white so that privilege start to kick in at some point.
so if they lied under oath that means he did molest them. duh
I think I gotta turn my back on Hot 97 , I'm shocked at this. Keep that same energy for Elvis and Ted Nugent ....but wait, they wont have docs put out on them. HMMMMM
You sound dumb
I’d love to see docs on Nugent and Elvis exposing their crimes to a wide audience. Go ahead and turn your back on these people for being reasonable regarding the pederast Michael Jackson though, that’s your prerogative as misguided as it might be.
Who are Elvis’s accusers? I only hear about his wife Priscilla-his only marriage, so technically that isn’t an allegation. Who are the other underage accusers? Name me one accuser not Priscilla.
@@scrillasofly 💯...
Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old neice...nith ing about him either
Didn't expect much from Ebro and Rosenberg.
Wasn't disappointed.
Lol
They’re bums
Word! LOL 😂😂😂
Michael Jackson was not creepy or weird. He is innocent.
Clearly we know what side you guys are on. MJ being weird doesn’t make him a pedophile.
This documentary should be classified under the fiction category
Strange behavior exposes you to false accusation... Strangeness is not guilt
Thank you! MJ might have been odd, because he never had a childhood and was abused by his own father. He was a little weird, but he sure as hell didn't touch any children. He had his fair share of issuses, but he wasn't a criminal.
@@maja-qk1jk hes guilty af. Stop defending child abuse just because he was extremeley talented.
@Czterdziestysiódmy There are tons of evidence and testimonies. If MJ was alive today he would be in jail. No doubt. He paid of and threatened anybody who question him. Just because someone is not convicted does not mean he was innocent. In america superstardom is one of the few things that can get you out of jail.
Molesting kids is kinda strange yeah.
Meanwhile Trump confessed on tape to groping women as if he were grabbing apples off a tree but here we are 😔
And he (trump) raped his ex wife. Funny how the some are overlooked and others aren't. I wonder why.....
and a 13 yr old
So many people trying to defend MJ in the comments lol crazy
The sicko made multiple people feel good about themselves through countless music songs along with films but, he placed a picture within the gates of neverland ranch and made his own face look similar to that of a clown.
Those victims should be aplauded for taking a stand and coming forward which could also help others as well especially from the entertainment industry
Kinda shocking you guys are calling Michael guilty. And the little research u have done.
Lets try to get this trash ass show of the radio.
They didn’t do little research. They clearly did work. Research shows Michael sexually abused boys. He had actual sex with boys. A lot. Unfortunately it’s true.
@@be9342 what research??? We need video. Recordings? Were you there??? STFU! They both lied in court. End of discussion. It's a money grab. plain and simple and at the expense of a deceased person. Real stand-up no-lying type of guys huh??
@Ayanna Ware - You don’t need video or recordings to prove child sex abuse cases. Most child molestations aren’t recorded stupid and people still get locked up/registered as sex offenders. They lied because Michael told them to, and he called them everyday to make sure that they would. Most sexual crimes aren’t recorded.
@@be9342 again, these are lies because they were coached by their MONEY-GRUBBING parents. Don't pretend these parents didn't see a check out of this. MJ went to court and nothing was found. Where are YOU coming from??? If they were molested or abused these families would have hospital records and MJ semen.. Was that ever found??? Now before you convict someone, you'll certainly NEED that. Now won't you? Now STFU, white boy
To automatically just jump to the conclusion that MJ did it instead of keeping an open minded dialogue and discussion I usually agree with hot97 but not this time
@Spades DePass - I am lifelong MJ fan, I kept an open mind and after watching all four hours of the documentary (and spending my entire life researching MJ’s cases and allegations), I believe in the past he was a child sexual abuser. He had intimate sexual relationships with young boys, particularly white “pretty” looking boys. He had a type. He had legitimate intimate romantic and sexual relationships with boys that he kept hidden. Michael Jackson is musical legend the one of the world’s greatest entertainers to ever walk on earth, but he was also child sex abuser.
Watch the documentary and the interview Michael had with Martin Bashir. Then form an opinion
Jenna M that Bashir interview was bullshit.
@@yakiralovesall it was Michael's own words. That's real, no bs
Sony killed mike...for the catalog worth 3.5billion
Can y’all please be more responsible with y’all platform???? Y’all are literally drawing conclusions from 1 side of the story. Weird don’t mean you’d touch children.
@djonesy1980 - We know the other side. “I would never harm a child. I just let them sleep in my bed.” We’ve never heard the other side until now.
@@be9342 The trial in 2005 literally presented both sides. And guess what? MJ was acquitted 14 times because the accuser and his family lied under oath, changed their stories and made bizarre and ridiculous accusations which could not be proven.
djonesy1980 huge difference of weird and sleeping in the bed with a young CHILD whether girl or boy, and you are a grown man.
@@tribecalledmaya regardless of is he shared a bed....it does not prove he did anything.
@@be9342 Funny you said that cuz MJ didn't .
Ain't that something that R.Kelly and MJ get a documentary at the same time!!!
No. Leaving Neverland was actually filmed months ago but it does seem like it. This is actually a cover-up for another sexual abuser though. R.Kelly is actually guilty though but he himself was a victim from 7 - 14.
You don't settle a lawsuit if you are innocent AND..... you don't attract GROWN ASS WOMEN with a zoo and a train at the house!
lmaooooahahahah
Then PROVE he did it lol?
But you do settle lawsuit if you stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars by settling. You do realize the dad from that lawsuit was caught on tape saying he was trying to destroy Michael Jackson? And eventually killed himself shortly after Michael death? But yeah you're The logical thinker 🐑🐑🐑
they wanna tarnish all the black heros...but they praise tf outta elvis
Yet Rosenberg will never talk about Elvis sleeping with a 15 yo
People have known about Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis for 60 years, it was never hidden. What do you want? Every time a black guy is accused we must go back in time and talk about every white person who did the same thing? Grow up
@@caseyash5971 nobodys digging in his past talking about him
I guarantee that you’ve never seen an Elvis documentary, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Elvis sometimes went after teen girls. His own entourage have told the stories, because back then it was way more common in the south. Also, society just doesn’t care about teens as much as small children. Tyga is walking around dating teen girls in the open rn, nobody really cares. Every rapper you know has probably smashed bhad bhabie, but that story wouldn’t compare to some director with a dungeon full of child slaves
Black lol you had to bring color into this huh. All he ever wanted was to be white. Just look at him.
Being strange doesnt make you guilty
I don't think he did it
Ebro claims to have fallen asleep yet can’t stop bashing MJ. Can’t lose respect for someone u never had respect for.
Word.
I love how Rosenberg puts on a different voice around black people but when he does wrestling and the michael kay show he doesnt sound like that lmao
The denial in the comment section is crazy
Living in Europe, and seeing other videos on this topic, I started thinking that maybe in America is normal for a grown man to be always around kids, that’ s a strange behaviour, but is accepted more than in my country. That all the “let him rest in peace”, “he didn’t had a childhood”, “he slept on the floor” is what almost every american person really thinks
Thanks for having restored my faith in humanity♥️
Shameful. Didn’t watch and won’t watch.
Nobody has gave more money to charity than MJ👑🙏🏾
Doesn’t mean he wasn’t IN BED WITH CHILDREN! You sick FKKKKK
Who care?
It was so disturbing to learn the truth about MJ. Check out old 1985 LaToya interviews. How can it NOT be true. Too much
La Toya was forced to give those interviews because of her abusive ex-husband to make money from the tabloids at the height of the Chandler scandal. She has recanted time and time again and even wrote a book called Starting Over.
@@reec5905 Really, she was forced to call out her brother a pedo publicly because he husband forced her too, then later recanted. Yes she recanted because her family reeled her in but I will never believe she was forced to call him a pedo. Thats just the bs story the family told her to say to save face.
@@hart3254 Right, because the Jacksons exhibit such low character compared to her sleazy, wife-beating husband? NOT!
Even as she was spewing those hateful words against her brother, her family gently discounted her claims publicly and expressed their love for her. The Jacksons are humble by nature and their religion. They have never exhibited the brutalism you describe, Jo Jackson's juvenile discipline of his children notwithstanding. They have always demonstrated a loving outlook.
I'm Billy The Caller,My point is that," real" victims of this type of abuse are usually withdrawn, feel guilty and are terrified that someone will think that somehow they were responsible for what happened to them.Ebro you didn't let me Finish, Wade was allowed in the Family ,he dated Michaels niece ,and he defended Michael ,He endured a massive cross examination,And maintained that Nothing happened!! Wade was 10 years old,his mother,Michael and Ty hung out with him during sleepovers!! and again they all said Nothing Happened!! I was a victim of physical and verbal abuse,and for years I avoided this person and I wanted nothing to do with That person.And the last thing I would do is defend that person. I was much younger then Wade and I knew what was happening to me!!
if someone in your block did this u would not be quick to defend this
Ppl lets remember that these ppl are radio show hosts... homies out here speaking about the human psyche like they have a medical degree
U guys are wrong I lost respect for ya'll
1984 is when the media turned on mj
I was going to say 87-89 but okay...he was pissed at the Grammy's. He got that catalog and it was a wrap...oh yeah the Pepsi commercial he got burned in the earlier 80s? I think...
I can’t believe people think this is true
Mr b no 2 me too..
I can't believe people who are blinded by the real truth. Wake up.
Where is Ebro getting his receipts for Mike cutting checks to multiple kids ??🤔🤔in the 1993 case mike wanted the criminal trail before the civil trial but the boys family wanted the civil trial as they were just after money. once they got their wishes, they took the money and refused to pursue the criminal case . Please research these things before believing them blindly people .
AND Elizabeth Taylor TOLD him to settle.because it was effecting his health. He had to cancel his HBO special and went into rehab. ALL IT TAKES IS LOOKING STUFF UP!
THANK YOU! Plus, MJ did not even cut the check...his insurance insisted (against his preference, he WANTED a criminal trial!)...the insurance say the suit as a major liability given his tours/sponsorships/etc. Folks never closed the cased formally and the dam DA introduced the old case into the 03 charges (05 acquittal). Also, the accuser's father committed suicide and the boy pursued legal emanicipation from his parents--he refused to participate in BOTH cases from 93 and 03 (05 aquittal)...
@@LadyCharity yes ma'am!
Your right but around that time it was said a check was allegedly cut to keep things quiet in the 90s...alot forget...but he's gone and can't defend himself...this is America smh
Good point, this is something that the press has misreported. There is a huge difference between a civil case and a criminal case. MJ settled the civil case so as not to prejudice his defence in the criminal case. But what happened after the settlement? The Chandlers ran for the hills with the money and refused to testify. Despite this, two grand juries decided not to indict Michael Jackson as 'no damaging evidence' was presented.
Got dam Hot... Ya'll gonna keep collecting these L's huh. Television programming and radio programming. Michael is the real victim here. He was in the care of the "industry" since he was child, so who are the real wacko(s). Dave Chapell asked the question years ago. Fckn shame smh
Thats deep man 👍
Hmmm a man who had child torture pornography locked in a hidden room attached to his bedroom openly admits to sleeping in the same bed as children, and the children accuse him of molesting him?? That is inconceivable! Must be for money!
The biggest problem here, with all of this, is divorcing Michael’s celebrity from his allegations. If any of you, especially parents, heard a story of an adult in a locked room with a child that was not theirs...and the parent could not get to their child....if you heard that some creepy looking guy was walking and holding hands with children that weren’t their...if y’all heard that there was a guy forcing children to watch porn...y’all we be at their heads or at the very least, view that person in a particular way. But Michael’s celebrity doesn’t allow us to accept it. None of us REALLY know what happened. The docu-series is out, it’ll get discussed (argued about) for a few more weeks unless something legal happens, and then it will be “just one of those things” attached to Michael’s legacy (as it already has been to an extent) but this doesn’t define his legacy.
" ' Leaving Neverland ' is much bigger than Michael Jackson " . ---- Oprah
IT WAS A BOMB .....
A NUCLEAR BOMB !!!
Why is Ebro all of a sudden tryna talk like Funk Flex?
i am shocked that the general public believe that he is innocent. i am just... speechless. Raise your hand if you would let your child sleep in the bed alone with Micheal Jackson after being accused of molesting children twice?
I'm gonna quote Whoopi Goldberg right now: "YES, I would leave my child with Michael Jackson."
And so would I, because I have done my research and you seemingly haven't. MJ had his fair share of issues, but he sure as hell didn't touch any children. A lot of people that spent time with MJ have come forward and said that he never touched them inappropriately. Robson & Safechuck are proven liars.
He cut cheques to many of his accusers. What innocent person does that.
@Jorilyne Gomez Exactly.
insurance company cut the check
So where is the evidence of all of this? 🤔🤔 cuz y’all making a lot of damning statements based off of “he said, he said” hot 97 is on the pandering train nowadays heavy!
Right.MJ was investigated for 10 yrs by the FBI and aquitted in court. Found not guilty. But two liars that allegedly lied under oath are believed. Unethical. Ridiculous. You can do a 5 minute Google search on these boys and families and know they are lying through their teeth. Only in America
Agathe Joseph it was not an FBI investigation. OJ Simpson was acquitted too so...👀
Damn, super irresponsible to base this biased and unsubstantiated allegations as truth. When you do that you fundamentally change everything that you have championed. This is good. If you start condemning people without trials imagine what comes next
This radio show has insight and bravery to think for themselves
LOL
Why do people say someone thinks for themselves when they hear someone with the same (wrong) opinion as them😹😹
When people are determined to believe something they will believe no matter what. And its funny that they say we don't know Michael, but they are more inclined to believe the 2 boys, and equally, we really don't know them. They could lie. Anyone could impersonate Michael voice in the voicemail. Everyone should just remain neutral because we will never know the truth.
Clyde Jenkins, long-time associate of Michael Jackson on March 1st, 2019 said:
Wade Robson... you should be ashamed of yourself!!! You and your family befriended the biggest star in the world. I personally recall your mom Joy calling MJJ Music with a sob story about needing money knowing that Michael Jackson loved her and your entire family and would do anything to help her. Michael especially loved you like a son because you dreamed of being a dancer as your mother took you around Australia impersonating who.... Michael Jackson.
Your family moved to the United States leaving your father behind and Michael gave you a record deal as part of a rap duo named QUO! It FAILED!!!
Michael Set you up with his niece Brandi and you guys were together for several years... until you CHEATED with other woman several Times.... she left you!
You still remained in the Jackson Circle.... Why? Because it opened doors for you being associated with Michael Jackson and his family.
That association with Michael Jackson afforded you the opportunity to befriend such artist as Justin Timberlake and Brittany spears... and what did you do...You started working with Justin as a Choreographer and then slept with his girlfriend Brittany Spears and was FIRED. Justin then wrote a song about it called "Cry Me A River". And yet you called Justin your FRIEND!!!
You used your association with Michael Jackson to befriend PRINCE and Mayte.... and what did you do.... You slept with HER!!! Some friend you are!!
You use your association with Michael Jackson to get yourself a gig on a television dance show.... word gets out about your previous disregard and loyalty toward high profile celebrities... and what happens.... you get CUT from that show.
Michael Jackson plans his THIS IS IT concert and you BEG to be the choreographer for the show.... Michael Chooses another Choreographer.... what do you do now that your web of lies are catching up with you and you are now Hollywood damaged goods.... You turn on the one man who looked out for you and your family your ENTIRE life and make up child abuse/molestation allegations that you have emphatically stated for many many years....NEVER HAPPENED!!
Fast forward to today... Michael Jackson is sadly NO LONGER with us. You now beg Michaels Nephew Taj Jackson for VIP access to Michael Jacksons funeral for YOU and your entire family. yet you claim this monster molested you...Sick.
You are now considered a home wrecking, disloyal individual and is essentially blackballed from Hollywood. What do you do? Because You know the world knows you are associated with Michael Jackson.... you use that association once again to change your LIFE LONG STORY to now claim... Michael Jackson molested you. Why? because you are BROKE and your wife is demanding you start making money or she will leave you.
You now convince another broke kid from Michaels past (Pepsi commercial) to join you in a frivolous lawsuit against Michael Jacksons Estate for 100's of Millions of dollars. The courts agree that there is no merit to this lawsuit and dismiss it!!
The Jackson family never fight back when people say disparaging things about their family. Mrs. Jackson once told me when i questioned her about this... she replied "because DIRT sinks and CREAM rises"
Wade knows this to be true as well.... so what does he do? He and James Safechuck concoct a story so salacious, so scandalous so despicable, and presents it to HBO for a one sided EXPLOSIVE televised documentary of LIES... in hopes that the Michael Jackson BILLION DOLLAR ESTATE will settle with you financially to make this documentary go away.
Well that documentary of LIES will air this weekend.... and unlike the Jackson's past... this new generations of Jackson kids are not having it!! they are suing HBO for airing your lying ass!!
I hope when this is all said and done, the estate counter sues YOU in civil court and WIN! I hope it renders you penniless for the rest of your life. Michael Jackson was good to YOU, your mother Joy and your sister Chantel.... and because your gravy train has run out... THIS is how you repay him. You are a sad excuse for a human being!!!
Sorry for this long post... but knowing what i know I just couldn't be silent.
For any of you who thought Michael Jackson was strange... I get it... because there is no one else on earth to compare him to. Yes, there are other child stars who grew up to "blend in" to society...and i get it... But when you are Michael Jackson and the only thing on earth that is more recognizable than you is the yellow "M" at McDonalds..... that in itself is "Strange!"
Anyways.... i say... boycott the documentary... and if you MUST WATCH... know that you now know the basis of the scandalous lies contained within the documentary!
Let that man rest in PEACE!!!
Clyde
That girl is so annoying
Y’all are herbs for this!!
Lmao They Only Made This To Discredit Him 🚮 They Hate To See A Black Man Be Successful 💯💪🏾 Period
But at the same time, you gotta wonder was MJ even happy to be a black man?
He had self hate issues...big time.
Oprah did an interview with him back in the day asking him about the skin bleaching/plastic surgery. I just feel like he had alot of issues. And it's all coming out now.
@@amab1853 Actually, MJ is the result of bad parenting. Parents that didn't teach their children SELF LOVE. And it happens in many families. There are white that want to be black. Whites get tans and sunburns, lip and butt injections. Those people have issues too right??
Is that a joke?
Michael wanted to be a father he quit mentoring these boys once he had his own children period. He was not a molester but a humanitarian!
Y'all some clowns at Hot 97, LEAVE MIKE ALONE!
No I think MJ being all soft spoken and kind was an act. I don’t think he truly thought that’s how you love someone. He told the kids that because he was grooming them. The dude was a monster
I'm a lifelong mj fan. He is a child predator. I can't understand how so many people refuse to believe the two victims
At the Monaco music awards he sat with one of his victims in his lap and everyone got so uncomfortable they asked him to get the child to leave and he refused.
The man was here and yall DIDNT.have this ENERGY
Thank you for this guys.
Michael Jackson was not weird he was eccentric.
Stop blaming, Jackson was not molested, and neither is lying Wade Robson who testified Jackson's innocence in the 2005 trial.
The world is so divided on if he did or didn't abuse those young boys, most fans are in denial but I believe with a heavy heart that he did groom and abuse those boys 😟 let's face it, he was only equitted because the key witnesses at the time of the trial were just children ? So sad.
1 This film does not even ask the Question. Did Michael Jackson have sexual relation with under age kids? This film goes straight to these men saying he did and this is their experience. 2. Why is this a documentary? If this is your personal experience speaking your truth, Why is Michael Jackson name attached to it? 3. Wade was a public figure then fade to private and the other guy is also private. As private citizens, Why put this out on a public form? PBS is free!
Cus they seen the attention Surviving R. Kelly got & wanted to do the same thing.
Shame that rosenberg has this much influence
This is what happens when you allow others into our space.
Using our platform to bring down one of biggest black idols.
Yeah but Oprah is behind this documentary... and she’s a BLACK WOMAN
@@lonestar3058 lol she never liked MJ.
Yet another black man we choose to have these very in-depth psychological unpacking with, yet we choose to ignore Elvis, Woody, thousand of Catholic priests etc.
Everyone talking about Michael but what about the parents it seems to me that the parents pimp their kids out. Who lets their child spend the nite at a grown man house. I wish people start looking into the parents and see how much they made for pimping their child.
debbie mill 💯Agree! I blame the parents. Just like the R Kelly situation those parents sold their kids innocence for money. The kids involved with MJ, their parents were clout chasers. They weren’t his friends they were fans that had children that happened to like MJ. Who didn’t like/love MJ??! Again I would never allow my CHILDREN to have a sleepover with a GROWN ASS MAN unsupervised, no matter if they’re a CELEBRITY or NOT! Period! Be Blessed 🦋
Great discussion - valid points
What points? Do clarify.
These dipshits didn't do any proper research. And last time I've checked, allegations are not proof!
@Kyle D please dont start at me im stating the perspectives point of view that the presenters are discussing - simple. Im not siding i have researched both sides im not saying anything more other than what these presenters talk about are valid point & perspectives.
Give them so called victims a lie detector test
I'm glad they took the logical approach with this discussion and didn't defend MJ just because he's a beloved star.
Not sure what "logic" you're referring to here. Both of these men previously said that MJ didn't touch em, so why should they be believed now? They're definitely not credible in my eyes (plus, neither have provided any iron clad proof of what they're claiming!)
i love how they just running with one side knowing mike cant tell his side...rosenburg so wack for that
Fans keep saying do your research. How can you research allegations to prove they happened behind closed doors? If people think MJ molested little boys its because he spent all his time with them, in his home behind his closed bedroom door. Of course people are going to think he's a pedophile. I didn't need to see that HBO doc to convince me. If your neighbor was doing this would you be cool with it? Would you let your child spend a week alone with them? If MJ is innocent then Lord have mercy on us all, but he set himself up for this. No one forced those kids on him.
I see why no one listens to y'all
This is the most intelligent I’ve seen Ebro
Did you really just put Ebro and "intelligent" in the same sentence? You're kidding right?
Ebro claims MJ has paid off multiple accusers, when factually, only the Jordan Chandler family was paid off (and this was by MJ's insurance company, against his will). Also, Ebro himself has admitted he fell asleep 10 mins into the said documentary, yet he dares to speak out about it? That's so incredibly dumb!
SHame on you guys.....I know Wade personally and hes a LIAR!!!!!!!!
RED VISION MUSIC I’ve hated that guy since he betrayed Justin Timberlake back in like 2002. At least we got Cry Me a River out of it though. Wades just a fame whore.
An adult forcing children to watch pr0ns and drink alcohol ? that's psychopathic.
I totally believe it. I was shook. It was so graphic in detail, I don't think you can just make it up. The backlash these guys get is the whole reason why some people never say a word about abuse. Locked in rooms, so much interest in these kids & faxes. #Redflags
Tracey Lynn Barkley actually I can make up graphic material now ..would you believe it
Yeah if you have no actual evidence you have to use the shock factor. Just because someone says something that shocking and it's unbelievable doesn't make it true.
The jewelry and faxes are the receipts.
I have yet to see the documentary. What about the "jewelry and faxes" convinced you that he did it? [seriously asking]@@Traceylynn06
I agree. People can not make up this type of trauma. It is crazy that people think that the victims are making this up for money. I watched the documentary and it was alarming. I always thought MJ was strange, and I think he had a team and a family of enablers that swept things under the rug. Like Ebro said, "He cut checks to keep these things quiet."
The truth has to come out though.
Wade was defending MJ as long as using his name got him work. The moment it didn't, he switched up
America is so bored and so on A.D.D. that even this conversation is not going to be around long enough to mean anything...
Factz
Because it’s Michael Jackson y’all don’t think he did IT bruh let your kids sleep and take showers with your favorite pop country rapper singer today go ahead in waiting , I’m sending child services!
Couldn't win in the court so we take it to the court of public opinion? Appears to be the move these days. That's why I don't get these things not coming out during the trial.
BOTTOM LINE IS ANY MAN THAT LOVES TO SLEEP IN SAME BED AS A CHILD NOT OF THEIR OWN IS A FREAK!!!IF ANY OTHER MAN WAS DOING WHAT MJ WAS DOING THEY WOULD HAVE THROWN HIM UNDER THE JAIL.great artist and performer.
I just want to say I know how much flack you guys are opening yourselves up to by talking about this being prominent communications figures in the black cultural sphere. This takes a lot of courage.
No matter what anybody says about that man because he’s Michael Jackson in everybody’s eyes he’s always gonna be innocent
A judge and a jury didn't believe them. Oprah should give them a polygraph. Period!
Survivors are watching, they are watching the backlash these men have gotten. I believe and I support them. I believe and support survivors even when its inconvenient. Even when it means having to give up a legend.
You mean even when lying and accusing an innocent man with disgusting crimes he never committed.
Let the man rest in peace
on point guys. thanks.
Y'all Speaking Nothing But Facts... 🙏🏾💪🏾💯
GUYS PLEASE THUMBS DOWN THIS VIDEO. LET THEM KNOW THIS ISN'T OK. THIS STATION SHOULD BE PULLED OFF THE AIR FOR THIS.
The documentary is amazing and sad. I believe everything they say!
Poor you 🙁🤦🏽♂️
But who else did he “cut checks” to??? Y’all say he cut “a lot” of checks? From my understanding of proper research there was only the 93 case that a check was cut.. and wasn’t even from his own pockets. It was from his insurance company. He also stated multiple times he didn’t want to pay the the chandlers and he wanted to pursue a criminal trial. But I believe according to laws in CA at the time the civil suit had to go 1st. Also the chandlers STILL could have pursued criminal charges but chose not to. What the hell does that say about them?🤔😒
We can’t pick and choose...
The truth isn’t always convenient, and if we gonna take accusations serious then we gotta do it with everyone...
No one is actually saying that Micheal wasn’t strange. But, where’s the evidence that he sexually assaulted these kids?
I think that if it were true, at some point there would be evidence (photo, recording, whatever) because 15 years of sexual abuse practices could not be hidden without being in the spotlight.
I think that the heroes of the document - especially Wade have a problem not with the relationship with MJ but with their sexual orientation and for that they want to blame him.
Probably his drama and depression stems not from molestation, but from the fact that MJ was his real and only love, too early, wrong and unhealthy - but love. Victims of harassment hate the perpetrators, they want to run away from him, they are scared, they are abhorrent.
They wanted this relationship with MJ and maybe that's why they did not reveal their stories for years because they could not admit that they wanted to do it themselves. Now, talking about it, they present relations with MJ in the opposite way to gain publicity and money
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Tbh the only reason I sat through Ebro’s ignorance was for the background instrumental of “no church in the wild”
I think that it is a dam shame black people can not even rest in death. Oprah will get what is coming to her sooner or later. People will do anything for rating or to stay relevent
Oprah not a "bad" person. She said in her own words its bigger than mj. Her stance is the context. Even if it were false, like lets say the hands up bs, the actual issues at hand are valid. Are you saying victims of sexual assault must shut up after a perp dies? I sure hope not. Rape culture. You do know many predators succumb by their own doing? Mj was no acceptation to that phenomenon, thats another addition to his craziness. Another issue many black women are victims by this thought just allow them to be abused...r kelly we like his music bs. Oprah doesnt need crap. She's the most wealthy blk women in history. Women tend to stand by men over women all the time. Not surprising. O is not perfect I tackle her on her loa bs but beyond that she tries to tackle serious stuff. She has her "cult" following too. Theres a time you cant say a bad word about her either. Celebs = religion.
I don't want to hear anyone talk unless you have seen the entire documentary.