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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2018
  • Which one to get, copper or aluminum? Lets take a quick look!
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  • @quiltedquickerpicker
    @quiltedquickerpicker 3 года назад +25

    heat dispersion is also about overall surface area of the radiating medium. Seeing how tiny the copper heatsinks were compared to the aluminum, I am pretty impressed.

  • @rramos7488
    @rramos7488 5 лет назад +62

    Very few DIY cooling vids out here lol. This helped with my VRM issues on my ITX board. Dropped it about 10 celsius and stopped the runaway temps. nice hidden find.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 лет назад +7

      Thanks for watching!

    • @mr.schaeffer5399
      @mr.schaeffer5399 4 года назад

      Buddy did you use the copper or aluminum on your vrm motherboard i need to put some on mine and im desperate looking for information my vrm goes to 57 60 degrees under load i'm afraid of burn this thing.

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 4 года назад +6

      @@mr.schaeffer5399 60? thats barely even warm!

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 4 года назад

      at least for PC equipment

    • @mr.schaeffer5399
      @mr.schaeffer5399 4 года назад

      @@virtualtools_3021 Hmm yeah but it's 60 on HW monitor the real temperature can be 30 degrees more easily because i didn't measure with a real thermal camera, and with my overclocks i don't see an improvement in performance maybe because of that.

  • @EliteRock
    @EliteRock 2 года назад +6

    I've used that 3M tape to attach additional heatsinks to the backplate of the VRM heatsink on an old Asus P8Z77-V MB (unsually it has 3 of its 8 pairs of VRM mosfets on the back of the PCB, hence under that backplate). It's actually intended as a thermally _stable_ rather than _conductive_ tape but it does work quite well in the latter respect because it's so thin. The afore-mentioned heatsinks (a line of five 20x20x15mm aluminium) get very warm to the touch, and a IR thermometer indicates they get to over at 50°C at their bases, so they're definitely removing some heat. I also found (like you ) that this sticks _enough_ but not too much and is easy to remove without risking damage. Appreciate seeing you confirming that this is a valid method (I'm about to use the same little copper suckers on graphics vram as here).

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 года назад +1

      I am still using this method and it works well especially with graphics cards.

    • @EliteRock
      @EliteRock 2 года назад +3

      @@TechnologyHive I forgot to mention your use of clamps - great idea - having just RTFM (read the ******* manual!) this is what 3M recommends. I might put the card, with the sinks clamped, into a warm oven (80°C) for an hour to aid sticking.

    • @Juntness
      @Juntness Год назад +1

      Do you guys know how I can get my hands on this? There are similar products on Amazon but they are have a fair number of bad reviews, mainly around the adhesive not being strong enough.

  • @NilsAlbertsson
    @NilsAlbertsson 5 лет назад +48

    *It's a very significant improvement if you take into consideration the size difference between the copper and aluminium heat sinks... The copper ones looked (from casual observations) to have way less than half the surface area of the aluminium ones, yet they still out perform the aluminium ones.*
    *That's why copper is king in the heat sink world... Unless you can afford fine silver (.999) and you have the time/skill to make a heat sink or two from a couple of fine silver bullion coins... THAT would be an interesting video!*

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 лет назад +2

      Copper also has more density. It definitely helps dissipate heat better. Thanks for watching btw!

    • @NilsAlbertsson
      @NilsAlbertsson 5 лет назад +9

      @@TechnologyHive
      *Surface area is the relevant factor here.*

    • @sirmrmcjack2167
      @sirmrmcjack2167 5 лет назад +4

      I think metals like gold and platinum conduct heat best and metals like aluminium and nickel dissipate heat best. So royal metals are best at conducting and unroyal metals are best at dissipating heat. That is also the reason that cpu coolers have a copper base with copper heat pipes and aluminum fans. What if you go an extreme route? And expensive but interesting experiment...

    • @Jozavenue
      @Jozavenue 4 года назад +4

      @@TechnologyHive disagree cos you measured wrong you were measuring the heat sink so that means
      the aluminum was hotter meaning it was pulling out more heat from the vram that means the heat sink into the aluminum more and faster to draw out the heat how it should, were the copper will do it slower and keep it more in.
      real test would be 1 hour pc run time then measure
      ,then turn off pc and remeasure in 10 minuets -

    • @MalawisLilleKanal
      @MalawisLilleKanal 4 года назад

      @@Jozavenue Yeah, or at least - measuring the surface heat at the heat-sink is without value unless you also read off the internal temperatures. It's easy enough to do with free software.

  • @abdolkarimmehrparvar6583
    @abdolkarimmehrparvar6583 4 года назад +9

    quite interesting, I always appreciate science-based review. sometimes reputed graphic card producers totally forget about VRAM heatsink.

    • @elluzion.
      @elluzion. 4 года назад +2

      *cough* ASUS *cough*

  • @ladamyre1
    @ladamyre1 5 лет назад +5

    Copper is ALWAYS better for three reasons. 1-It has much better conductivity, can move heat further and faster. 2-It has more density and therefore more mass for the same size. 3-It is more malleable and less likely to vibrate in sync with chokes in the VRMs which may be close by.

  • @zorendypsy4300
    @zorendypsy4300 4 года назад +2

    Nice video, thank you for that.
    In addition to that the thermal conductivities of the used metals:
    Aluminium: 236 W/(mK)
    Copper: 401 W/(mK)
    So copper get away the warmth nearly twice as good, as aluminium does.
    And like the other guy said before: the surface of the copper-heatsinks is smaller. If you take heatsink with lammellas your outcome should be much better.
    All depends on following formula:
    Q= ^/s * A * delta-T
    Energie equals thermal conductivity per way multiplied with surface and temperature difference.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 2 года назад +1

    Why 3M 9448A? It's just a short-chain acrylic adhesive with no thermally conductive filler. 0.1mm thermal adhesive pads don't have quite the holding power of acrylic, but they should conduct heat better, and they do hold well enough for small heatsinks like all of these. That being said, normal double sided tape or this 3M does work in a pinch, because it's mostly liquid, it maintains some thermal conductivity, it's just not all that ideal. But you should keep this in mind, because you're adding up thermal impedances, thermal impedance of die to IC case, case to tape, tape volume, tape to heatsink, heatsink to air; you task is to evaluate the sum of heatsink related impedances, but it's likely swamped by the impedance of 3M tape. That being said that is still likely to be an improvement over the direct impedance of carbon epoxy IC casing to air.
    Thermal adhesive glue is actually remarkably bad compared to paste and even fairly cheap 1W/mK thermal tape. There's basically never a reason to use it, unless you actually want things to never come apart no matter what.
    Aim the pyrometer laser above where you're measuring temperature, as there is an offset between the laser and the IR optics. Always make sure the complete sensor frustum is pointing at organic surfaces, never at metal. Of course with pins and such you can't quite avoid it, but you can do your best, in particular you should never try to measure on heatsinks, as they are reflective in the measurement range. PCB solderstop lacquer has infrared emissivity in pyrometer's IR measurement range of around 0.95, for which the pyrometer shows the correct temperature value; aluminium has emissivity of around 0.1-0.4, depends on surface treatment (depth of eloxation), and copper has emissivity of less than 0.03, so it's basically invisible. When you point your laser at the edge of the card like that, most of the thermal optics frustum is on the heatsink below. In your measurement that you do later with stick on heatsinks on, nothing you measure makes any sense at all - the lower measurement on copper might as well be explained by its lower emissivity (and higher reflectivity) in the specific measurement range of the pyrometer, rather than the actual temperature difference. If you have to measure a temperature at a heatsink you have to get a K-type thermocouple, and you can glue it right to the side of the chip with some thermal paste and some Kapton tape to hold it in place, or the PCB there, just make sure not to short something. You can then figure out whether the heatsinks were an improvement by measuring this nearby temperature instead.
    As a rule of thumb, you usually need an aluminium heatsink about twice the size of copper one to reach the same performance, and with geometry adjustments; i wager a guess, the heatsinks shown are insanely close to each other in terms of their °C/W value.

    • @AutodidactEngineer
      @AutodidactEngineer 2 года назад

      Arctic alumina adhesive has a thermal conductivity of 9.5w/mk which is better than quite a few pastes out there though it is permanent there is a way to make it semi permanent by mixing 2parts adhesive to 1 part paste!

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 2 года назад

      @@AutodidactEngineer Never trust the spec values coming from consumer oriented companies, they are, with a few scant exceptions, complete garbage! Pulled right out of their behind. For years Arctic Silver Inc (this very same company) have claimed that AS-5 has a thermal conductivity of what, 8.7W/mK, right? In independent testing, it has been shown to be right around 1W/mK.

  • @PjotrII
    @PjotrII 4 года назад +2

    Both Copper and aluminium are great for cooling. It is not only about the material, but about surface, air temperature and airflow. Which way are the heat sink "wings" placed etc.

  • @albirdie1630
    @albirdie1630 4 года назад +176

    copper transfers heat faster thru itself (better transfer and absorption), but aluminum dissipates heat faster into the air, that's why the core of the heatsink is copper, while fins are aluminum

    • @dinowilfreddegracia9238
      @dinowilfreddegracia9238 3 года назад +17

      That time when you remember your class on thermodynamics and material science. Nicely done there 😁

    • @draco147
      @draco147 3 года назад +9

      I have a aluminum frying pan in my kitchen. It cools faster than anything else in my cookwares.

    • @alexxx4434
      @alexxx4434 3 года назад +7

      It's ok to cook in aluminum unless it's something highly acidic.

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n 3 года назад +3

      What about a copper aluminum alloy?

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n 3 года назад +1

      Obvious phishing attempt is obvious

  • @maestrohun
    @maestrohun 7 месяцев назад +1

    I respect the benchmark and thank you the upload and the work with it.
    As I see the difference very small as a theroetical calculation would be: 1. DRAM modules power consumption is little 2. To suggest the power the surface is big -> EZ to cool, so in this case a margin of difference between of Al and Cu.
    What I would test: LAPING the DRAM plastic surface. That would be another very interesting benchmark.

  • @joeldoxtator9804
    @joeldoxtator9804 2 года назад +6

    This is actually helping me in design elements of a custom waterblock I am making. I was curious if just making copper bars that bolt to the board would be enough to keep voltage regulator temps safe and that appears to be the case. this could greatly simplify my block design as going over SMD's to attach different zones of the card is difficult and less universal in design.

    • @hectororestes2752
      @hectororestes2752 7 месяцев назад

      im in the same boat here, hows it going?

    • @joeldoxtator9804
      @joeldoxtator9804 7 месяцев назад

      I've built 2 blocks where the SMD contact points are with copper bars attached to the shared top copper plate of the water block. Works flawlessly. You just have to remember the joint solder increases the depth of the bar and you have to account for that in measurements.@@hectororestes2752

  • @deadinside777
    @deadinside777 5 лет назад +3

    The design of the heatsinks matters such as much as the material used, as well as the overall surface area. A small Al heatsink with several long fins will cool better than an equally small Cu heatsink with a few short thick fins.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 лет назад +1

      Yes that is a factor to concider also, as well as the material it is made from. It is for this reason that most heat sinks today are a mix of both copper and aluminum. Copper absorbs the heat better than aluminum, but aluminum radiates heat better into the air than copper. The designs are important as well! Thx for watching.

    • @sanjaypatil2532
      @sanjaypatil2532 Год назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive but ur findings show Al was 45° and Cu was 43° (cooler since it radiated better)

  • @cieuxlux9617
    @cieuxlux9617 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video. Doing a hybrid AIO mod for my RX 5700 and wanted to make sure I apply these correctly.

  • @JLMtime
    @JLMtime 5 лет назад +2

    So the copper ones were actually smaller & did better slightly so if they were same size (about 3x) you might get 12 deg cooler instead 2 at the MOST

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      I think so. But it was difficult finding them all the same size so had to work with what I had if you know what I mean. 👍

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 5 лет назад +20

    I have heard you need almost a third more surface area to get the same cooling out of aluminum. Thats why more fins in aluminum radiator than copper. Anodized aluminum is just for looks and cools slightly worse than bare aluminum. And corroded aluminium cools worse than anodized. The thicker the metal the longer it takes to heat and cool. More fingers and thinner work better. That's why aluminum blade type heat sinks. More surface area contact with air or liquid the better to dissipate heat. Like when the geographical pole is overland we have ice ages. Now that its over the arctic oceans it dissipates the cold making planet warmer. When it reaches Siberia we will see global cooling as it makes ice sheets their. Its all about the surface area and how well the heat or cold transfers.

    • @p.e.r.c.y
      @p.e.r.c.y 5 лет назад +4

      Exactly if it absorbs heat better it has to release better otherwise you'd break the laws of thermal dynamics. The biggest reason companies use aluminium is cost and ease of manufacture which subsequently lowers cost.

    • @quiltedquickerpicker
      @quiltedquickerpicker 3 года назад +1

      true but then it all ends up being a factor of cost as well xD Aluminum is way cheaper than copper so I guess it ends up becoming a cost issue for manufacturing xD

  • @greasehole7611
    @greasehole7611 4 года назад +6

    Hey, thanks for the vid. Was thinking of doing a custom loop but am going to have to use a cpu block for the die, Ill be doing this mod on my VRAM modules and VRMs on my motherboard

  • @pika9985
    @pika9985 4 года назад +3

    hi , i'm here from 8/2020 building my custom cooling rig for my pc .
    the first wrong something you did in this video is comparing 2 different material with not fair factor . the factor is the two material must be with the same surface size that exposed to air flow . you picked two different shapes with two different surface size . i'm keep watching ..

  • @Garry-Stewart
    @Garry-Stewart 8 месяцев назад +2

    If you want more peformance just use thermal glue. Because its more more thin and fill the air gap more efficient

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  8 месяцев назад

      Very true. Just make sure to find the right stuff.

  • @GGN-92
    @GGN-92 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this very interesting and pertinent review and comparaison.
    Take care of yourself.

  • @keithlarew7651
    @keithlarew7651 4 года назад +2

    Being that the copper has a pretty flat face, what would happen if you put the aluminum heat sink on top of the copper one?

  • @XX-121
    @XX-121 4 года назад +12

    the reason they use aluminum is because its WAY cheaper.

    • @Jozavenue
      @Jozavenue 4 года назад

      disagree cos he measured wrong he was measuring the heat sink so that means
      the aluminum was hotter meaning it was pulling out more heat from the vram that means the heat sink into the aluminum more and faster to draw out the heat how it should, were the copper will do it slower and keep it more in.
      real test would be 1 hour pc run time then measure
      ,then turn off pc and remeasure in 10 minuets -

    • @mr.schaeffer5399
      @mr.schaeffer5399 4 года назад +4

      @@Jozavenue do you are aluminum fanboy or what? oO i'm looking for a solution for my VRM but everywhere i goes i only see people bashing the aluminum and praising copper you are the only one saying the opposite.

    • @kingfro1548
      @kingfro1548 4 года назад +4

      @@Jozavenue He measured the back side of the PCB where the chips are soldered to and not the heat sink. So the measurement was accurate. Only flaw I can see is that the heat sinks have a different designs.

  • @55in12
    @55in12 4 года назад +5

    Hey. Nice Test. I think, the Alu Headsinks arethe better tip, than copper can oxidation, and what is, when the Cu is green :-)

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад

      It's a good point especially in humid environments 👍

  • @TheSlyMouse
    @TheSlyMouse 2 года назад +1

    Would be cool to see you update this video. I think its still relevant, also try adding them to the motherboard heat critical componetnes

  • @aacassens
    @aacassens 3 месяца назад +1

    if you want thermal conductivity and efficient at that, shouldn't the aluminum be painted or colored white?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 месяца назад +1

      It doesn't matter since it's just absorbing heat through conductivity, not through light.

  • @alvarobesnier
    @alvarobesnier Год назад +1

    that's 20% improvement, pretty sweet

  • @Willalvers
    @Willalvers 10 месяцев назад +1

    I use nickel, sometimes copper...get down with the thickness!

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  10 месяцев назад

      I have since found a better option: www.amazon.com/Thermal-Adhesive-Performance-Heatsink-Computer/dp/B085CLXM7J/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=thermal%2Btape&sr=8-3&th=1
      It does not matter to me where you buy it. This stuff works better.

  • @telmoribeiro3931
    @telmoribeiro3931 5 лет назад +2

    Dude i love , iam modding my loud rtx 2016 and iam hopping to fix both the noise and temperature with a aio and now after vid some vram heatsinks thx u got a like and a sub

    • @FelixOnn1
      @FelixOnn1 3 года назад +1

      Did it worked? I'm thinking in doing something quite similar to my GPU

    • @telmoribeiro3931
      @telmoribeiro3931 3 года назад

      @@FelixOnn1 it did just make sure u use glue type termic past or else over time they will fall

  • @TheFrenchy82
    @TheFrenchy82 2 года назад +2

    Very interesting ! Thank you for your nice work !!

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 года назад +1

      Glad you liked the video 🙂

    • @TheFrenchy82
      @TheFrenchy82 2 года назад

      @@TechnologyHive I see that you used 3M 9448A tape.
      where did you get it ? I searched on 3M website, but it's rather strange : nowhere we can find the exact Thermal Conductivity (something like XXX W/m-K) value ..... What is the width of this Double Coated Tissue Tape ??

  • @ohmythatsweird
    @ohmythatsweird 3 года назад +2

    There's a kit of 100pcs on amazon (mixed sizes). So i will be heatsinking everything . Why..bcos.

  • @jimmicrackhead12
    @jimmicrackhead12 4 года назад

    Would have been good to see what the software was pickign up from the temps too. Obviously the extra surface area helps the aluminium, though I am going to do it with the aluminium because the lighter weight should mean it will not fall off the tape which is pretty shitty- as they will be upside down. Also going to think put a small fan blowing horizontally to get direct flow in there, making sure not to interfere negatively with the gpu's fan and wind direction.

  • @DiegoAmsapomac
    @DiegoAmsapomac 4 года назад +5

    Hey, I really love your GPU mod. I´m going to do that to a Vega 64.

  • @Zfast4y0u
    @Zfast4y0u 3 года назад +2

    i ordered 12 of similar ones like yours but i wanna put em on top of a back plate of my water cooled gpu, under heavy load back plate tend to run ass hot, back fan set as intake helps a lot bringing temps down, but i want to move it step further putting proper heat sinks on backplate for more surface area.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      In that case I would have ordered something a bit bigger, since you have an exhaust fan moving air out. But perhaps the small ones help 😊👍

  • @ilnikogo7034
    @ilnikogo7034 3 года назад +2

    Are all the VRAMs measures the same? I mean if i buy those copper heatsinks, they probably have the size of the VRAMs? Wich measures should i buy?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад

      They are pretty generic in size. 7- 10mm is the average size which works well for vram chips.

  • @gunosubekti8747
    @gunosubekti8747 2 года назад

    I combine both but copper in the bottom is not bumping or flat join with alumunium up dont know how much celcius down

  • @aravindraja8034
    @aravindraja8034 2 года назад +1

    What tape is he using I want to try it on my ASUS H410M-E Mobo VRM

  • @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide
    @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide 2 года назад

    And silver ...normaly better reflectance ,and het conductivoty then both copper and aluminium.
    A bit more expensive...but hey how ´cooln would that be ?

  • @bege4394
    @bege4394 5 лет назад +1

    Hmm, I think the infrared temperature meter meters the temperature so large area that this is not accurate. The red laser dot is there to just throw aim in the right direction.

    • @Jozavenue
      @Jozavenue 4 года назад

      disagree cos he measured wrong he was measuring the heat sink so that means
      the aluminum was hotter meaning it was pulling out more heat from the vram that means the heat sink into the aluminum more and faster to draw out the heat how it should, were the copper will do it slower and keep it more in.
      real test would be 1 hour pc run time then measure
      ,then turn off pc and remeasure in 10 minuets -

  • @P-tricky13
    @P-tricky13 4 года назад +1

    So thermal tape is pretty much just as good as thermal glue but more convenient?

    • @XX-121
      @XX-121 4 года назад +1

      if you get the good stuff. (3M brand)

  • @anant0089
    @anant0089 3 года назад

    Good test..where did u apply these hear sinks ? And will it make any difference if apply at all black components..

  • @lopiklop
    @lopiklop 2 года назад

    You were making mistakes while measuring temperature. It doesn't read the laser pointer, it reads an inch below that.

  • @vieri1235
    @vieri1235 3 года назад +2

    For anyone interested in buying those things
    enzotechnology.com/air_cooling.htm
    btw is that possible to have vram heatsink inside gpu waterblock?

  • @AutodidactEngineer
    @AutodidactEngineer Год назад +1

    I know this is old but I think it would be a much better idea to instead of using singular smaller heatsinks use like a larger slab of heatsink then cut it into shape and use it as one larger piece!

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад

      You are right. Unfortunately I do not have the proper machinery for the job. I own a miter saw and a few other metal cutting tools. But the aluminium slabs I have are larger and would require something like a bandsaw to get it all into the right dimensions.

    • @AutodidactEngineer
      @AutodidactEngineer Год назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive Not having the tools for the job is the worst feeling, when I first started I only had a crappy corded drill and a hacksaw😄.
      I can still remember friction drilling with a rusty nail🤣🤣.
      Keep these videos coming man, you are awesome!

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад

      @@AutodidactEngineer That means a lot!! Thank you for the compliment!! And yes, I agree, the right tools make a huge difference. I'd imagine you'd know how many tools you'll need for a single even small project LOL I will keep the videos coming, thanks again!

  • @cowsongs
    @cowsongs 2 года назад +5

    Copper always makes for a better heat sink because its rate of thermal conductivity is higher. As much as I do appreciate this demo, there are major problems with it.
    --
    First, the two heat sinks clearly do not have the same volume, shape, or surface area, so the test is completely invalid. They are vaguely the same physical size, but that's not nearly good enough. The thickness and fin structure are completely different.
    --
    Second, those are tiny heat sinks and the temps are only in the 40-50 range. That means we are talking about a relatively low amount of heat dissipation to begin with. If you used large devices and heat sinks, such that the device would soar over 100 C without a heat sink and came down to 50 with a sink, you would be able to see a much more significant difference between the copper and aluminum.

  • @jeyss0
    @jeyss0 3 года назад +2

    Nice video bro, I would like to know where did you buy your gpu cooler! Thank you.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад

      This one I bought from an online store in my country. I live in Norway. Store is called Proshop.no

  • @JuanSanchez-rb4qu
    @JuanSanchez-rb4qu Год назад +1

    Are these tiny heatsinks good for regular RAM? like better than the shroud type heatsinks?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад

      Yes they perform better than the typical heatspreader on most kits.

  • @Rombbb
    @Rombbb 3 года назад +1

    I dont think that's conductive tape, it will be better than air, but I guess there are way better tapes out there

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      It is working just fine at the moment. It sells as thermal conductive tape. But we will see in time if it continues to perform.

    • @Rombbb
      @Rombbb 3 года назад +3

      @@TechnologyHive I yesterday went down the rabbit hole of tapes and the Parker 412 or 3m 8810 (or 8805, 8815 depending on thickness) seem best. The one you have really is not specifically for heatsinks. It will probably work fine, just like regular tape, but just that it's not designed for it. A little bit up in the page : www.micforg.co.jp/en/cat_tapee.html#t_t412

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      @@Rombbb Thanks for the tip 😊👍.

  • @Taahmim
    @Taahmim 2 года назад

    As far I know Aluminum reflect 95% infrared heat. So, your heatgun showed its cold but it actually block the heat.
    I wonder why we use Aluminum as heat sink?

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 2 года назад +2

      If you look closely, you'll see that he points the gun at the back of the PCB, not the heatsink.

    • @Taahmim
      @Taahmim 2 года назад

      @@bgtubber I got it

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 2 года назад

      @@Taahmim 👍

  • @DanielPeraalta
    @DanielPeraalta 3 года назад +1

    thank you very much for your efforts. you've just solved all my doubts about gpu cooling!

    • @joemadrid8331
      @joemadrid8331 3 года назад

      Nice man. Glad it was helpful 😊

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus 3 года назад

    Hi. Do you need two heatsinks for M.2 NVME (one for the bottom and one for the top? What's the thickness in mm for both heatsinks?)? And should we remove the sticker for better contact with the thermal pad?
    What's the thickness in mm is the big heatsink you used in this video?
    Thank you.
    God bless, Revelation 21:4

  • @SickPrid3
    @SickPrid3 5 лет назад +20

    those guns are useless for this type of measurements, to easy to make an error
    get a meter with thin thermocouple and stick it between heatsink and memory

    • @Zfast4y0u
      @Zfast4y0u 3 года назад +1

      i had one of these, brand new, used only coupple of times.... last time i inserted batery wrong way aaaaand smoke start coming out when i pressed the button :/

  • @lilithstenhouse267
    @lilithstenhouse267 22 дня назад

    DISCLAIMER: I wrote this comment, then rewatched to ensure I hadn't missed anything. I had, in fact, missed something: this comment is partially wrong as they measured the rear of the chips not the heatsinks, it's just difficult to see due to the poor lighting - however I'm leaving it with this disclaimer as it does contain useful information.
    This is not a useful experiement. The targets were different colours - remember black bodies from high school physics?
    The black heatsink will read as a higher 'temperature' than the copper one _even when it is the same temperature_ as a simple matter of emmissivity. Instead, you should use the thermal sensors built into your GPU to get measurements from. Only this will give meaningful results. Otherwise, all you have proven is that a heatsink probably makes the component cooler.
    Furthermore, those IR guns do not read the value at the point the laser dot is at, they read from a view cone. How large is the cone for your specific model? I have no idea and neither do you.
    Gamers Nexus have a fantastic writeup on IR guns and thermal cameras, I recommend reading it.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  22 дня назад

      @@lilithstenhouse267 have a good day 🙂

  • @henriquesantosrs
    @henriquesantosrs 5 лет назад +1

    hey, you helped me a lot, thanks for your video and your time doing it! :)

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 лет назад +1

      I am glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

  • @hannaabihanna3970
    @hannaabihanna3970 4 года назад +2

    Great job
    What if you use thermal pad in place of double tape?

    • @aravindraja8034
      @aravindraja8034 2 года назад

      What tape is he using I want to try it on my ASUS H410M-E Mobo VRM

    • @GeorgeXCIX
      @GeorgeXCIX 2 года назад +1

      @@aravindraja8034 Double Sided Mounting Tape 1”x 32.8 Ft 3M 9448A Double Coated Tissue Tape Strong Adhesive Heavy Duty Transfer DIY Tape White Color for LED Strip Light Office Home Car Décor(9448AB)

  • @Der_Oesterreicher
    @Der_Oesterreicher 5 лет назад +3

    Good Video but i would rather go with neither. The 8auer said that the vram can be cooled with jsut a smal fan and it would normaly be much better than the stock solution.This is because the thermal tape works as insulation and not only to transfer heat. Also the Vram is with just a fan at around 60-80c on a 1080ti depending on the fan rpm.They usually withstand temps up to 150c.
    The stock EVGAs had around 90c Vram temp. Also if you use thermal adhesive its really hard to remove the heatsinks without damaging anything. Ive read a lot, from "Put your GPU in the freezer" to " just twist it, trust me it will go off".
    On the other hand ive heard of adhesive thermal tape and falling off heatsinks that causes some short circuit because they touching the cooler. Not the best thing that can happen to a 700$ GPU. And that risk just for 10-15degree? Its not necessary

    • @Street_Cyberman
      @Street_Cyberman 5 лет назад

      What do you think about this solution?
      (AIO water cooler + fan on vram + heatsink)
      ruclips.net/video/RkN_KTZpCQs/видео.html

    • @XX-121
      @XX-121 4 года назад +1

      that's why he's using the 3M tape. it's quality stuff. and you can get a way better OC w/ 15 degree drop.

  • @xingli1069
    @xingli1069 10 месяцев назад +1

    Using 3M 9448A as thermal glue/tape is horrible advice. It is not designed for heat transfer. Use 3M 8810 instead.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  10 месяцев назад

      I have since found a different tape that works better. Thanks for the tip anyway.

  • @Jozavenue
    @Jozavenue 4 года назад

    i disagree cos he measured wrong he was measuring the heat sink so that means
    the aluminum was hotter meaning it was pulling out more heat from the vram that means the heat sink into the aluminum more and faster to draw out the heat how it should, were the copper will do it slower and keep it more in.
    real test would be 1 hour pc run time then measure
    ,then turn off pc and remeasure in 10 minuets -

  • @simmpp03
    @simmpp03 2 года назад

    Hello what is the actual size of the mini copper heat sink? Thanks!

  • @TheFoxBurnDen
    @TheFoxBurnDen 2 года назад +1

    what kind of tape is it? how can I find it? thank you!

  • @pascotool
    @pascotool 4 года назад +1

    What is type of COPPER for a heat sink when precision CNC machining is required

    • @sgtsqueaky
      @sgtsqueaky 3 года назад

      Telurium Copper is typically used for CNC machinist.

  • @gleipnirfenrir
    @gleipnirfenrir 2 года назад

    how if you put it from the side, so there are 2 heatsink for 1 vrm, also it will be higher

  • @sanjaypatil2532
    @sanjaypatil2532 Год назад

    Your measuring the temp of the Heat Sinks or the Chip itself i wonder ?

  • @eliezerortizlevante1122
    @eliezerortizlevante1122 2 года назад

    Try this. Copper plating + alluminum heatsinks

  • @captainspaulding7612
    @captainspaulding7612 3 года назад

    i have a ps4 fat 16 vram each one 512mb 8 on the back and 8 on front both sides i want to use copper thermal pads 1mm thickness problem that i dont know how to make the pads stable on both sides thermal paste won't make it sticky any advice ?

  • @shayeladshayelad2416
    @shayeladshayelad2416 5 лет назад

    If i could see differences between the stock glow that comes with the fins vs the tape

  • @carlosrueda436
    @carlosrueda436 2 года назад +2

    Nice keyboard by the way... i got one just like that !!! 😎

  • @AgentFSB
    @AgentFSB 5 лет назад +1

    I'm sorry to bother you but I have a favour to ask. I'm seeing a ton of ceramic heatsink listings on AliExpress, eBay, etc. Could you run a test with those versus the copper and aluminum ones? Thank you for the great video by the way. I subscribed! :D

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 лет назад +6

      Ceramic is an insulator.

    • @MalawisLilleKanal
      @MalawisLilleKanal 4 года назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive That depends entirely on their composition. They are typically good electrical insulators, and some compositions are very good for thermal conduction.

  • @DiegoAmsapomac
    @DiegoAmsapomac 4 года назад

    I completely disagree cos he measured wrong he was measuring the heat sink so that means
    the aluminum was hotter meaning it was pulling out more heat from the vram that means the heat sink into the aluminum more and faster to draw out the heat how it should, were the copper will do it slower and keep it more in.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      If you look again, I was measuring the rear side of the memory chip. 👍

  • @cliftonsr
    @cliftonsr 3 года назад +1

    What about .925 silver?

  • @practicaltactical1336
    @practicaltactical1336 8 месяцев назад +1

    What is the name of the 3 m tape? Thanks

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  8 месяцев назад +1

      I have since switched to a better tape: www.amazon.com/Adhesive-10mmx25mx0-25mm-Thermally-Conductive-Computer/dp/B08MZGJCGB/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=thermal%2Btape&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

  • @MarvinConnell
    @MarvinConnell 3 года назад +1

    I REALLY APPRECIATE this test - BUT I must say that it is an unfair comparison as the Copper sink has More Material & More Surface Area in it's design... A fair test would use sinks that are IDENTICAL in design, where only the materials differ... However - I can still deduce that Aluminium is better, as it does almost the same job as Copper, with less material & a less efficient design - so THANKS again... =]

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +2

      I could not find anything else similar to each other at the time of video. Today it might be a different story. Maybe I'll update the tests.

    • @MarvinConnell
      @MarvinConnell 3 года назад

      @@TechnologyHive I did a check & this is the only one similar to the Copper you used that I found(What the name of the Tape though?): www.ebay.com/itm/114466028230?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item1aa6b4fac6:g:kKUAAOSwkmZfiW3I&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACkPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsSR84A%252FGMxXIqJzFmDq6lDLiVGg7z2YXM79DGcDpKCPO3wOgAk0obDsJAlhzVlapaNf3pxAszKrN7DN7ydnX%252BQjN%252B8UMn%252BRpZqcdf9vB78nsp42tXMdS9AtAC5fX9dSGnsiNP9ZaCoD%252FH3ldlkaSTnhus2U2TVMYQMLTvynpsk1TWgrcASeXrHGJ5LL8nvFtpLTzpjYXt2j2FxwcR9FFXgiDjVm%252Ffcc8SJFFPWwd2lJC2n81wEGzWG55lmcLoJ4MJvrf%252BOou2%252FIdiSo1XgCreQ2JiS04%252Bwogj3X6ncgq4aBlxZ6f%252F9avFDC3cJnJjJJ8g9ucO48meZMt0wCvlmxhkw4l5bdJXVsDd8%252Frae1A2yKFK0GIPWBxNmlgIavTflY1%252B6VElpECLCnxO1L7lNB%252B%252FZI5rMagTKxLB5K7eZFvUk%252FGw0nl8m7BGmo7aob2JLDMu4YzbFuW15BfkfUe%252FrzL1HIIcccTtw8bCFUENjpUa2n3NTB2ZP3cvyxdY06FJTabPN7cYlhIhoFIBli0iNEwEZsqCxvdfWj6KVYv%252FjHsd%252BhnF11c9XhYS9S%252BMb1dKCkSKESgKVcFuGt5oG2SwPb1VqXNH7bgXnI1iiTeXOUtIqfPbp7RWpb2kG5ZPjT4zRr%252Fhr2kDhlK62BWwsaIJ7rLNn4sFXStKlGTJSi%252FRYluowrGcGT7g9ymUbwKF2MPbSqctiulbJwLEctDEJnLtfsA1VFOBXDsMDElgIZdO2LmM7M7JAPIisSlTkeqjabLFB%252B5lvLUmT8cNmT35hE%252BiDsy5TXsYUcXnHIiW8SnINGOtxJpddTX%252B%252Fc%252BMNUfcBcxg9vjw8%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524

  • @nileshyalkar1764
    @nileshyalkar1764 5 лет назад

    1.Can avoid tape and use specially fabricated clamp minimum contact.2.oversize heat sink will be better if it fits.

    • @Street_Cyberman
      @Street_Cyberman 5 лет назад +1

      Can you give me some a link please?
      Or some references?
      I would like to do the same modification on a aorus 1080 ti xtreme edition.
      (I'm french)

    • @Rikon01
      @Rikon01 5 лет назад

      Nilesh Yalkar I was thinking the same a loose metal in metal contact. But I don’t know much about motherboards. I was also looking into making a custom fan! Heatsink with those small parts and a few laptop fans

  • @carlosinga1290
    @carlosinga1290 4 года назад +1

    Great great review man!!!

  • @MrRafafsa
    @MrRafafsa 5 месяцев назад +1

    thanks for the vid.

  • @OmerTheGreatOne
    @OmerTheGreatOne 5 лет назад +2

    Copper did better because (i think) it has more mass (heavier). So theoretically it is a bigger sink. Use good quality tape and u be golden. (More like copper color, golden)

    • @Jozavenue
      @Jozavenue 4 года назад

      disagree cos he measured wrong he was measuring the heat sink so that means
      the aluminum was hotter meaning it was pulling out more heat from the vram that means the heat sink into the aluminum more and faster to draw out the heat how it should, were the copper will do it slower and keep it more in.
      real test would be 1 hour pc run time then measure
      ,then turn off pc and remeasure in 10 minuets -

    • @mr.schaeffer5399
      @mr.schaeffer5399 4 года назад +3

      @@Jozavenue But he measure the back of the card not the heatsink itself i think.

  • @chongtak
    @chongtak 3 года назад +1

    My vram uses the radiator via thermal pad to get cooler but the pcb on the other side is pretty hot when I stress the gpu. Would it improve things if I stuck heatsinks on the other side, directly on the pcb? That would overlap with other tiny components too and not make a good contact but wouldn't it be better than nothing?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +2

      I wouldn't do that, but you can if you want of course. I'd look for another way to drop temperatures. I no longer have my computer parts inside a case anymore and this alone I'm proved temperatures by around 10-15 degrees.

    • @chongtak
      @chongtak 3 года назад +2

      @@TechnologyHive Thank you for the suggestion. It was open before but my cat always made me nervous when she was around. I may try a couple of fans directed toward the back plate then.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +2

      @@chongtak that's what I would do to be honest. 👍

    • @chongtak
      @chongtak 3 года назад +2

      @@TechnologyHive Thanks for your answers, you've earned a new suscriber.

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      @@chongtak Thank you ☺

  • @niok2kk82
    @niok2kk82 3 года назад +2

    Good video, thx for this

  • @gregoiremp
    @gregoiremp 4 года назад +1

    Thx for the useful video!

  • @muntee33
    @muntee33 Год назад

    Aluminium is about the worst 'heat sink' you could use.

  • @iceberg789
    @iceberg789 Год назад +1

    link for the heat tape please?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  Год назад

      It has been updated. www.ebay.com/itm/194746839962?hash=item2d57d0f39a:g:b~EAAOSw-sBiBiGh&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwP%2BFJ2ledzMaYdmya9Odio33FJstbeIBTPq7tSxsF%2Faz9OVf7nCh8pqe6xDdxGOd34I%2BljtzgLwcsaCzDIA07WpWVJkw6C6zRsVkRlI7yPGYs0pXdAmopq6oLqoAbRjvGqGuinNalCg0qQtu508OvygYIurIqUWLL2XcknHpJ5NfFHY24xCNIEr%2FNT%2Blvdxqlc4JH%2B3y8zHMIUgLDQWP4Sx7dr%2F%2BUdm6tY%2Frq98GOvGBdtgaHyHm7LiHWSlZ4yxEtg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7zm-Ij0YQ

  • @JL-od4wg
    @JL-od4wg 2 года назад

    anyone know why, after i replace my thermal pad
    it keep rebooting what happen ??

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 2 года назад

      I'm sorry to hear this. Is this on a video card? It could be many things. You may have damaged a component during the assembly or disassembly of the card's cooler. Another potential reason might be that you've used an incorrect pad thickness for the specific component. If the pad is thinner than it should be, it will not make good contact with the metal contact surface of the cooler.

  • @barserdogan274
    @barserdogan274 Год назад

    Nice video thanks

  • @arksurvivalevolved9190
    @arksurvivalevolved9190 3 года назад +1

    Nice, could you post the exact model for that 3m tape? Appreciate

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      www.ebay.com/itm/1-Meter-20mm-25mm-40mm-Width-3M9448A-Double-Coated-Tissue-Tape-Thermally/174568845969?hash=item28a51d3291:g:DxoAAOSwwSpf4k~h

    • @arksurvivalevolved9190
      @arksurvivalevolved9190 3 года назад +1

      @@TechnologyHive Thank you..

  • @richmadrid9563
    @richmadrid9563 3 года назад +1

    hey, what is that huge aluminum heatsink in your video?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад +1

      Hi. It's the Arctic Mono plus gpu heatsink.

  • @aravindraja8034
    @aravindraja8034 2 года назад +1

    What tape is it?

  • @aleks740
    @aleks740 3 года назад

    Amazing test ! Very Like !

  • @FriendlyHobo42069
    @FriendlyHobo42069 6 лет назад +4

    A liquid nitrogen heat sink :D

  • @rushdrift
    @rushdrift 4 года назад +1

    Should I use a specific tape for this?

    • @joemadrid8331
      @joemadrid8331 4 года назад

      Look online for the right tape to use with these. You don't want anything too thick. www.ebay.com/itm/Japan-SEKISUI-5760-Double-sided-Thermal-conductive-Adhesive-Tape-for-Heatsink/171112683534?epid=753204017&hash=item27d71c580e:g:xwkAAOSwDdNaskkm

  • @xxMyGodIsaDJxx
    @xxMyGodIsaDJxx 3 года назад

    Can't find the links in the description to buy these products man

    • @joemadrid8331
      @joemadrid8331 3 года назад

      I believe the seller on eBay no longer has them available. I could be wrong.

  • @king_king89
    @king_king89 3 года назад

    which the best for hashborad asic ? and which better for gpu?

  • @Rikon01
    @Rikon01 5 лет назад

    I wonder how good of a heatsink I could make with aluminum foil 😂 it’s moldable you can wrap it around hot chips if done right. But I’m sure something will short circuit. But would be a nice experiment

    • @henryt9731
      @henryt9731 4 года назад +2

      Sounds more like a heat trap to me

  • @Tonberry1117
    @Tonberry1117 Год назад

    Ps5?

  • @raminazizi
    @raminazizi 5 лет назад +1

    Great video

  • @izzatti7446
    @izzatti7446 2 года назад +2

    What cooler is on the gpu? Damn

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 года назад

      It's an Arctic Cooling eSport black.

    • @izzatti7446
      @izzatti7446 2 года назад

      @@TechnologyHive no. The one on the graphics card, sir. What low profile cpu cooler did you put on it? Seems like "plug and play" mounting.

    • @izzatti7446
      @izzatti7446 2 года назад +1

      Oh sorry. I already found your video about it. This cooler no where to be found

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  2 года назад

      @@izzatti7446 ah sorry I misread that. Yes its hard to find nowadays. Best bet is eBay.

  • @nicholaslandolina
    @nicholaslandolina 3 года назад +1

    The copper would only be warranted in certain citiatiosn

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад

      If I were a heatsink manufacturer, I would use copper on all base plates. Period. And make the heatsink fins of aluminum. 👍

  • @luiscastro2761
    @luiscastro2761 4 года назад

    Please link or name the tape please!

  • @sonny3282
    @sonny3282 3 года назад +1

    what tape did he used?

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  3 года назад

      It is sold out. But it's this one. www.ebay.com/p/1831396795?iid=283382186454

  • @JLMtime
    @JLMtime 5 лет назад +1

    Maybe that tape is new but the "3M' tape I used failed on me multiple times when the card cooled down they fell off i also used multi special solvents recommended by 3M lol what a joke i could lost my entire MOBO or PSU F that tape

    • @TechnologyHive
      @TechnologyHive  5 лет назад +1

      I recently experienced the same. I'm disappointed at 3M.

  • @wiidstep
    @wiidstep 4 года назад +1

    nice content

  • @JuanCoataPc
    @JuanCoataPc 5 лет назад +1

    Nice