HELLENIKA: THE WRATH OF SPARTA MOD BETTER THAN DIVIDE ET IMPERA! - Total War Mod Spotlights
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Hellenika is a total war overhaul mod for Rome 2 Wrath of Sparta that combines brilliant new gameplay mechanics like social and manpower systems or a gods and omens system, with stunning historically authentic visuals.
The mod has been in development since Wrath of Sparta was released back in 2014 and focuses quite heavily on the historical authenticity of the time-period. And it’s still being updated today as well which just goes to show how much work has gone into making this mod one of the greats.
I have a long list of mods to cover but Hellenika has been at the top of the list for a long while now, so it is finally, with great pleasure that I can spotlight this mod today and show you everything that makes it so impressive.
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Having finished Hellenika with Sparta, Athens and Argos, I have to say this is one of the best Total War experiences I ever had.
with the population ???
@@larepublica93 yey
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The longer siege system when they control settlements in the rest of the province is a cool idea but doesn't really work too often since nobody sieges the enemy out. You either wait for the sally of the not so smart AI the very next turn or you wait 2-3 turns for siege equipment. Dont remember how long it takes in vanilla but if it is more than 6 turns I usually never wait.
Sieges would have to be way harder so that you cant just attack the enemy walls with a few ladders and win. Ranged units should get a big range advantage on top of the walls, they should not be easily taken down by artillery, siege equipment should take many turns to build and defenders on the walls should get melee bonuses as well. Maybe siege equipment that takes many turns to build and also in low quantities would also be a great addition to DeI. That way walled settlements finally get as strong as they should be.
The issue with that is the walls carry no bonuses and they wear down way too easily. I know it's meant for the flow of the game but a challenging battle is often more satisfying and fun than an easy win.
I've always wanted seige equipment such as trebuchets and onagers to be constructed from the seige screen instead of units in your army. Or at least only usable in field battles if in encamped stance. Make it a multi turn build and only damages walls once built (in Attila the walls can collapse after only a few turns without seige equipment).
If Total War Troy's historical mode is something like Wrath of Sparta with Helenika it would be a great game.
Agreed!
Iv'e been waiting to see Hoplites overarm stance for the longest, shame there no overarm attack animations but modders can only do so much. will be playing this for sure thanks for showcasing this!
Same :) Hope you enjoy it mate!
The overarm stance makes absolutely no historical sense. Even a basic test with a broom or long stick you can do in your own home reveals that the overarm stance has no strength, no reach, and massively tires you out compared to underarm stance. It's never mentioned in any literary sources from the era and the artwork on vases and so on that depicts it almost certainly depicts them throwing javelins, not thrusting spears. The only real exception to this is that men in ranks behind the first might have thrust overarm just so they could go over the shoulders of the men in front and annoy the enemy.
@@FlawedFabrications *EB1 overarm/underarm debate flashbacks intensify*
@@cass7448 I don't even know why it was ever a debate. Physics, biology and common sense say it's wrong, meanwhile some art on a vase that wasn't even made in the period hoplite warfare took place says it's right lmao.
@@FlawedFabrications Your brain is not able to comprehend such things please don't stress yourself
Your vids made me download DEI for the first time and I'm having a great time, love your content.
Thank you!
Same !! Dei Is amazing game
interesting discovery. it would be nice to add external incursions to disrupt the flow of the campaign, like thracians or illirians, maybe romans in the late game :)
Good shout mate :)
For Romans it is a bit too early for them to start appearing, as they only started getting stronger after 340 B.C.
Alexander the Great could be possible, the romans started taking parts of Greece and influencing the region MUCH later in time.
@@HansWurst1569Alexander the great wasn't even born until 80 years after the end of the Peloponnesian war. Your knowledge of the timeline is hilarious.
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Seems too good to be true
This is amazing. What is missing now is courtly intrigue. Acting instead of the faction leader, one of the many prominent families in court or as a rising star; a household in the making.
Too many amazing mods..so little time to play...thanks for the spotlight man
I feel the same way :)
I love the Greek time-period. Much more than the Roman one.
If only CA continued to make DLC for this awesome game
Its true so much potential in this timeperiod
Oooooh might be worth buying the dlc for this mod then :)
Absolutely!
do you still need to wait for 4 turns to Recruit a unit with this mod? Do you still have to wait 10 turns to move an army from sparta to athens with this mod?
Wrath of sparta made me sick of these mechanics which the only purpose was to make artficially longer campaigns.
it depends on many factors, such us the size of the city you want to recruit at
@@Gyrosmeister but i already play with DEI which replaces Wrath of sparta campaign by roman-macedonian wars so i should uninstall DEI to play this mod
I want to play a peloponnesian war campaign, is Hellenika recommended over a DEI version?
fantastic video bro thanks, only just discovered this mod, fingers crossed it's everything i've been w2anting in wrath of sparta, when i was a kid back in the days of rome 1 i remember wishin they did the peloponnesian war, absolutely love this time period, can't wait to get into the mod but i wanted properly read up on it all and prep before diving in. once again, thanks!
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice Alcibiades would approve of this
Hi, I have question. Since this mod only changes the WOS, is it possible to have it installed over DEI? So basically you can have DEI with this replacing the Macedonian wars campaign?
I’m obsessed with these shield patterns 😍
Does anyone have any idea why can't I recruit generals from my family when playing for Sparta? It always shows that they are currently unavailable.
hoplite falanx backing eachother up is that new or have i missed something in the passed 134 campaigns i played..
Could be new? 👀
That aesthetic overhaul is awesome. Can you recommend other overhaul for other campaigns as well ? Beside Divide Et Impera though.
congratulation for your channel! i m from Brazil and have a doubt, what is the recommended difficulty for Hellenika? like in DeI? batlle in normal and campaign can be chosen? DeI can only be played at normal batlle dificulty this is the same case?
Hi mate, good question! Not 100% sure to be honest. Maybe check the steam page? Or the manual?
No mention of this in the manual that i see
Hi i have a question my shield looks blurry even if I added this mod
Can you do a The first 10 turns on Sparta DEI?
Would love to!
Wow at this Mod also! You introduced me to another great! The amount of units and details is staggering
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Where can i download it
Does anybody have some tips about how to control public disorder and rebellion successfully and quickly in this mod? I am having some difficulties with that. Thanks!
Only thing that i wish is that creative assembly opens up so you can mod cities and fortifications and such! Because cities in Ancient Greek and Rome etc was more colourful with brilliant stunning rich colours and bronze statues !Not grey and white as all city’s are in rome 2, Ofc some cities were but in general the cities would be much more stunning and amazing
Everytime I declare war my game crashes, anyone know why this is happening? Thanks.
As a member of the original HELLENIKA team (former Greeks at War mod), I should give some more info on the mod:
The HELLENIKA mod that works with patch 17 is different than the one showcased here - and in my opinion, it was a lot better and more immersive. The current latest version is only good for patch utilization and some reskin or for people that don't wish to revert the game.
In this version, the original beautiful unit icons have been replaced (yet you show them on some occasions in this video...), and the unique tech tree has been replaced with another - which is also unique but inferior and in some occasions meaningless.
The original team found difficulty in updating the mod as CA did changes that cased problems in various areas, so it was taken on by others (one of which was an original member like me) but turned the mod to another direction. One must play both versions to see what I mean.
There is also another version by a Chinese guy (HELLENIKA PELOPONNESIAN WAR) which still needs work but it kept the original stuff of patch 17 version intact. Added some of his of course.
On one hand, it's good that HELLENIKA rose up to current game state, on the other hand, I don't like the end result as I deem it lost a lot of its character in the process...
Better than DEI... is a really bold statement. The Makedonian Wars idea is quite brilliant in my book. Hellenika Is definitely a different (and multiple times better) approach than CA ever did on the Peloponesian War. It doesn't matter what you think is better. What matters is that you got great choices to make in order to play. But if you must have a decision, it's HELLENIKA patch 17 for me all the way if I want to see Greeks at War...
The chinese guy Luskainn crushed a large number of bugs from the original mod and the changes he's made are sensible like mercenaries are not recruited from one pool now but are found in their historical home towns (and neighbouring provinces), unique buildings for capitals, better animations for hoplites etc he's done a fantastic job keeping the mod alive.
@@bannerhorde6506 He should also consider the fun factor.
Does it still work
@@futureusmc2694 It does.
@@Chalkaspis really i couldn't use it can you say me the name of the version which works please?
I found the mod.
Nice mod. Not better than dei tho but i respect ur opinion
Fair enough :)
Does this mod only work with Wrath of Sparta? Does it also work with Rise of the Republic?
So I just downloaded this mod and such and I tried playing it but it isn’t working so you have any ideas on how it could work?
Can someone help pls?
I downloaded all parts of the mod on steam but my game crashes as soon as I try to start a campaign
You may have the wrong version, there's another helenika mod on steam thats older (i think last updated in 2016), that has 3 parts, that does not work. Make sure its the one in the description of this video
Mod is awesome
Not for me, the phalanx mechanics are too clunky and the moral seems broken
Man when you get powerful as Sparta and boom! Beotian war! Played it long enough to have Hegemony as Athens allied with me (Sparta) defeat a strong Thebes and Korinth
Does it only apply at wrath of sparta ? Or it applies on the original campaign aswell?
You just introduced something interesting! However does the AI adhere to it? Or will they just flat out cheat?
This is the only thing that make playing Wrath of Sparta worth it.
What mods can you guys recommend to improve the HELLENIKA campaign?
Compatible mods: more turns per year, disable the political system, and so on.
it´s normal that the upkeeps of the ships fleets are almost nothing?
Hi, amazing video. What would you say is the best overhaul mod for WoS? DEI?
Thank you! I would say its Hellenika
@@TheTerminatorGaming Perfect, thank you. I’ll give the mod a try. I tend to find DEI isn’t the best for the other campaigns although it is still good. I just don’t know which mods are best for DLCs
@@TheTerminatorGaming I know there are some others for WOS (can’t remember their names), but for the rest I’m clueless
you are a gem man
Haha ❤️❤️
I play when it at first divelop and is very good
What is the recommended difficulty level for this mod?
This is a bold claim. I suppose I’ll have to try this out.
nice Video and Spotlight maybe I gonna try it but I'm not sure still have to do my New World Rome campaign ^^
Fair enough :) Big update coming today ;)
I dont know if anything has changed, but I tried to play this mod and simple gave up because of faction mechanics, which make your line break and flee shortly after contact.
You are probably arent that bright and are building levy/militia armies bro
Hi Terminator 🙌
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Hey ! I didn't know you knew this mod! this is my first big modding job, in 2D 3D and data base. some of my models from the time are in aegean mythos :)
Nice! 👍 Hell yeah man been loving Hellenika lately :)
About to play right now because of you lol I wish larger unit sizes of DEI were implemented because I’m a fan of very large engagements but I know a lot of people like smaller battles
Agreed, but it does fit the time period a bit better :)
Great video dude ☺️
Thanks bud 🙏
Btw not many factions to play with if I remember correctly
Just want to say thank you for another great review. I just started playing this mod Have to watching your review and it is such a refreshing take on Rome II wrath of Sparta. Little learning curve but it's almost like a whole new game!
Glad you enjoy it! And agreed it really is a whole new game :)
Loving the channel dude and content! Just subscribed
Thank you! Appreciate the support :) 🙏
Thanks!
Hey thanks for the donation! Too kind! ❤️❤️
Yesss brooo! You covered the mod finally!
Yes!
The madlad finally did it! :D
I would love a Caesar vs Pompey civil war dlc that would be so awesome.
I would spotlight the **** out of that mod!
@@TheTerminatorGaming Yeah I mean Augustus is cool but a Caeser should have been made after Caeser in Gaul dlc.
was just looking at some new mods to play u got my attention ones again thanks brother!
Hell yeah man!
After watching this video i bought Wrath of Sparta and downloaded Helennika right away! Thanks for letting me know there was such a good mod :) :) Can't wait to try it out. Keep up the great videos TheTerminator!
Awesome! How do you like it? And thank you! 🙏🙏
@@TheTerminatorGaming Played it for a while, on normal difficulty, conquered Greece as Sparta and now the only left factions are the Persians, i just crossed the sea and started attacking them from there and from the north, to be honest , it wasn't very difficult, maybe because i was playing on normal or just because spartan hoplites are overpowered. Conquered Athenai very late in my campaign aswell . Overall it is a really great experience! Big thanks again :)
Yeah I’d try on Hard or VH :) also yep Spartan Hoplites are 🔥🔥🔥
@@TheTerminatorGaming hey,can i pm you a question about rome2 performance? I am thinking about something but im not quite sure..
Yeah sure man pop by the discord server
It has arrived!
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I was playing this mod and I’ve noticed that the missile troops have a big problem. The skirmishing mode is basically broken and they get way to close to enemy units just to fire at them. And sometimes they will just randomly stop anything they are doing it’s frustrating and ruining this great mod any fixes for this?
why are Thebes not in this mod? LOL not that historical then i guess.
They are. Koinon Boioton is the Boiotian League which Thebes are a part of.
Thank you i will try this mod at the next opportunity.