Best looking critique I’ve seen yet. One gets a perfect look at how it’s not a throw, it’s more of a whip and rip of the disc. I’m still caught up in trying to throw the disc. This really helped get a better look at the final release point. Very nice!
2:00 the extra elbow thrust is the same concept as "lag" in a ball golf swing. The longer you can keep the forearm loaded while the elbow pushes out further the more "lag" is created and more power as a result
What up Thomas greetings from South Florida I met you at you at the South Florida open you were super cool and down to earth and you signed some discs for me this video is amazing I'm going to use it as a side by side to correct my own form thanks again Thomas
This is hands down the best video to check your timing. You can really see when, how and where the power comes from. I have a really bad elbow drop in my throw and I just couldn't find the reason for it. Many good players have tried to give me some hints for it, but they all have been wrong and I instantly knew that. I have been learning a lot about backhand form in about four years but still wasn't practicing my own form a lot in two years. This spring I started filming my form again and I got a really big breakthrough with it, thanks to this vid. I am "pulling" too early and that's why my elbow seems to drop. I started the pull when my toes touched the ground and after I delayed my it, my hand goes perfectly straight and is "in balance" with my elbow. So the pull starts instantly after the HEEL is touching the ground. Now it's just sweat and tears till I get that timing corrected. So Thomas Gilbert, if you're ever in Finland the beers on me and thank you for this vid!!!
Hey! What do you mean by "pulling"? Pretty sure you're not supposed to pull the disc, but let the disc come naturally in the power pocket by using the hips and lowe rbody
I'm new to the sport and have watched other videos from pros. I can't add any more to the comments before this. So just want to say great job! And thank you so much!
I'm gonna give a virtual slap to the person who thumbs downed this video. Great stuff, thanks for the info Thomas. Hope to see you smashing the competition whenever it gets back to normal!
Awesome video! One of the smoothest and most efficient forms out there. I found channel only recently and honestly have not followed you that much on tour but this channel brings you visibility and probably a stady income in the near future. Best of luck in your future endeavours!
Awesome video, Thanks Thomas!!!!!! I think this video will help a lot of people. It is fantastic to see one of the farthest throwers in the world do a form break down.
My success story: I only threw 175ft before watching this video and after practicing what you taught I now throw 600ft with my go to Drew Gibson Stego.
Glad I found this. Got to meet this guy... oh, not meet, follow his group at last years Great Lakes for a few holes. You know, keeping social distance before it was cool. The intent being they don't know you are there or at the least you don't bother them. Yet close enough that your brain is going, "that is THE Thomas Gilbert right there in front of me." Dude just bombs and what stuck out is how smooth his motion is.
Great breakdown of your own form T. Thank you very much for great visuals and eloquence. I learned most important for me detail. Proper power pocket preparation and 90 degree necessity. Anxiously await for not videos, next season. Want to see you winning more events. Because you can. Thank you Mr.Gilbert.
I picked up a disc for the first time 5 months ago, and played close to every day since. I’ve been watching tons of form vids and built my max distance up to about 375-400’. This video was very helpful, and I look forward to recording my own form to compare and critique.
This is an amazing video, it is practically impossible to slow down a youtube video just by itself enough to actually catch what happens between when the disc comes across the torso to where it actaully leaves the hand, i try all the time to catch just 1 freeze frame between those 2 points and if i do catch anything its a total blur🤙
Well done, the RHBH tee shot video was one of the best I’ve seen. Not as wordy as Danny’s so easier to understand. Left arm points are clear as is the power pocket. You must be doing a hard brace with your as your follow through is less as twirl in comparison to Paige, Paul and Eagle
Great breakdown Thomas! No matter how many of these I watch I still learn something new lol. I’d like to see more from you in the future for sure! Your insight on putting and how you approach tee shots comes to mind but the possibilities are endless
Thank you for this video bro. I think the biggest take away I got is that I was planting with a open stance. I didn’t realize that the plant foot need to stay sideways not only when planting but on the run up.
Important to note that from the instant your chest stops moving forward, your elbow is going in a circle 90° to your right. Your ability (strength/speed) to keep the center of mass of the disc from getting “outside” the line of force (direction your pulling) allows you to continue accelerating much longer than most throwers. Velocity is acceleration over time. Time is this instance is the linear distance you are able to actually apply force (helped by the angular velocity of your elbow extension). Very nice. Concentrate on how fast you can get your elbow to go to go in a circular motion to your right before the center of mass of the disc rips it out of your hand as it puts massive amounts of spin on the disc in the process.
This video is epic. Thank you. In the future, play some casual rounds and tell us what you’re thinking, what your line is, what disc, and why for each shot. Also how to throw on inclines/hills side-to-side or front-back slopes.
Very nice breakdown of the form! It’s nice to see it from other people perspective and not just Simon or Eagle if that makes sense. Lol... Keep the vids coming man we all love em...⛓👍
Another key point guys is Thomas didn't really know he is doing this until he analyzed it. This is the part that I believe all of the top players just "get" it. Not saying you can't learn it, but it's a lot harder to learn this by watching mechanics vs feeling it out and getting it naturally.
Amazing and to the point, also pay attention to the head being very still and it only turns with the shoulders, ie the chin and right shoulder stay together, lastly, I think it would be helpful to see your grip and thumb position.
i wanna see how you get certain discs to do certain things , like how do you go about throwing a 400ft shot under a low ceiling through tunnel like what stability to choose and what angle you release to achieve the dead straight 400 in tunnel low ceiling etc?
Thanks for that video. Could you share the software you are using to step through the video. I am looking for a good disc track app and a stepping function. Curious what your using. This video will help me a lot after I video myself. Thanks 👍
How tall is Thomas? Him and I have pretty much identical body types and I am 6’ 5” so I’d really like to understand how he is throwing. I’m only throwing about 350’ currently and I would really like to get it to be around 500 as he is well beyond that mark.
Hi Thomas. My wife wants to know how she can adapt your form to keep the disc super tight to her chest when there are things in the way. Would you release a video addressing that?
Great video, thanks. Maybe you could continue from here to do the same for different shot shapes like hyzer and anhyzer? What will change and maybe it could be something you like to see yourself too? And how to do that in consistent way (if there any tips on consistent angle control).
I definitely have taken in-depth looks before just not within the last year or so. I definitely was looking at slo-mo videos of my form a lot when I was first learning how to improve my form.
I think that all comes in how you grip the disc. The only other issue would be your weight transfer and if your arm tends to raise at the end of your throw.
Do you push off with your left leg from your toes? I think pull or elbowing can work if done after the hips engage, but do you just use your arm at the beginning? I feel like I don't use mine until it gets to the pocket
Great tips! I know you've trained with Henrik before. I had the opportunity to take one of his clinics in London, and it really helped me with my backhand. I was wondering if you've ever thought of doing your own clinics, or perhaps joining Henrik on some of his?
Thomas I got a question, when you say "crossing well behind" at 0:40 are you referencing the placement of your right foot on the first step or your left foot crossing over. Thanks
I’d say focus on pulling you elbow through on the same line your arm makes when it’s fully extended. This should ensure that it stays tight and powerful that stays in a linear motion throughout the pull through
Thomas, did you really get to 600ft without taking in-depth looks at your form before?? After this form breakdown, did you identify anything you want to change or improve?
I definitely have taken in-depth looks before just not within the last year or so. I definitely was looking at slo-mo videos of my form a lot when I was learning how to improve my form. I think I could still improve the speed of rotation and transfer of energy so the disc can come out a little faster but it’s not something I’m too concerned about.
@@thomasgilbert54 hi thomas. thanks for the response. definitely wasn't calling you out or anything, just impressed with your natural ability! keep on rockin man, can't wait to see you out there again.
Thomas, how hard are you gripping the disc to hold on to it so long into the throw? I feel like I have decent hand strength from playing bass and guitar my whole life, but I can’t seem to hold onto the disc long enough. My hand is relaxed during most of the swing and then I try to clamp down at the end but the disc always feels like it is coming out before I can really sling it like you do. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks man!
It’s not anything specifically that allows me to throw further. It’s all the things done together with near perfect timing that all adds power to the throw. To help improve overall power, try working on one aspect of the throw at a time until it’s all synced with each other!
Great video, is there any drills or ways to improve the release point? How you said your hand still maintains a fist per say, I’ve been having trouble with my snap release out of my hand.
Nick Logsdon I don’t think there are any specific drill to do but while doing field work just keep trying to increase your arm speed and continuously try to keep a straight and accurate release point. The faster the arm speed the more the disc should “snap” out of your hand. It also could be that the energy you’ve built up is not quite fully transferring to your finger which would let you feel the full force of the “snap”.
Great video! I'll probably be watching it many times to compare my form against yours and fix things I do wrong. A question though: Do you push off with your back leg (left leg) into the throw? Or does the leg just collapse inwards/forwards as you're rotating your hips?
After thinking and reenacting my throw I believe it just collapses in as I rotate my hips. I’m definitely not consciously trying to push off my back leg.
@@thomasgilbert54 Are you just rotating normally into when your leg drops or do you "pop" your hip to snap it into that position, I've heard people say they "pull" though to get into the power pocket but I've also head that people say they pop their hip and they motion pulls their arm into the power pocket, just by the acceleration and leverage.
I’d be into seeing a video like this for your putting stroke. Your putts come out so flat every time and I wanna know your thoughts on what goes into it. Maybe some tips and tricks for finding your putt.
Thank you for the the Breakdown buddy.
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I threw 150ft before this video and now that I've watched it and practiced, I am up to 155.
@Caleb Long Or 160
@Caleb Long ayyye Caleb funny finding you here. 😂
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@@nicklong7442 Long time no see?😁
put the vid up !
Best looking critique I’ve seen yet. One gets a perfect look at how it’s not a throw, it’s more of a whip and rip of the disc. I’m still caught up in trying to throw the disc. This really helped get a better look at the final release point. Very nice!
So true, I've always called it a whip'n-snap!
Most useful form video since Simon's noob vs pro comparison last year. Thanks Thomas :)
I was surprised at how young you are. Incredibly articulate and knowledgeable. This is a very good clinic and breakdown. Thanks for all the content!
Thomas is taking kinesiology (the study of human movement) in university, so that helps him relate to us, his own movements. Good work Thomas!
2:00 the extra elbow thrust is the same concept as "lag" in a ball golf swing. The longer you can keep the forearm loaded while the elbow pushes out further the more "lag" is created and more power as a result
Yes...I call it a "stall" but, yeah...same thing. It's definitely key in adding distance to a plateau of progress. I like "lag" better.
How do you do that
Like a trebuchet
@@joeillingworth1141 the superior siege wepon
What up Thomas greetings from South Florida I met you at you at the South Florida open you were super cool and down to earth and you signed some discs for me this video is amazing I'm going to use it as a side by side to correct my own form thanks again Thomas
This is hands down the best video to check your timing. You can really see when, how and where the power comes from.
I have a really bad elbow drop in my throw and I just couldn't find the reason for it. Many good players have tried to give me some hints for it, but they all have been wrong and I instantly knew that.
I have been learning a lot about backhand form in about four years but still wasn't practicing my own form a lot in two years. This spring I started filming my form again and I got a really big breakthrough with it, thanks to this vid. I am "pulling" too early and that's why my elbow seems to drop. I started the pull when my toes touched the ground and after I delayed my it, my hand goes perfectly straight and is "in balance" with my elbow. So the pull starts instantly after the HEEL is touching the ground. Now it's just sweat and tears till I get that timing corrected. So Thomas Gilbert, if you're ever in Finland the beers on me and thank you for this vid!!!
Timing is everything.
Hey! What do you mean by "pulling"? Pretty sure you're not supposed to pull the disc, but let the disc come naturally in the power pocket by using the hips and lowe rbody
I'm new to the sport and have watched other videos from pros. I can't add any more to the comments before this. So just want to say great job! And thank you so much!
I gotta try this! Nice video!
I absolutely love your super Canadian, beautiful wood room.
This is the best "how to" form video done by any top level pro, ever. Trust me... I've seen them all.
I'm gonna give a virtual slap to the person who thumbs downed this video. Great stuff, thanks for the info Thomas. Hope to see you smashing the competition whenever it gets back to normal!
That thumbs down could be the result of an early release...
Awesome video! One of the smoothest and most efficient forms out there. I found channel only recently and honestly have not followed you that much on tour but this channel brings you visibility and probably a stady income in the near future.
Best of luck in your future endeavours!
You're a great guy Thomas. Keep up the good work.
Thomas Gilbert Excellent video your technique makes you one of the top throwers on the Disc Golf Tour. Nice work
One of the best breakdowns I’ve seen in a while.
Awesome video, Thanks Thomas!!!!!! I think this video will help a lot of people. It is fantastic to see one of the farthest throwers in the world do a form break down.
Thomas, just be yourself with all the videos. You are a likeable guy. We will watch.
My success story: I only threw 175ft before watching this video and after practicing what you taught I now throw 600ft with my go to Drew Gibson Stego.
Only 600 feet... Gotta keep practicing.... Maybe try the Stego in a premium plastic...
lol
Glad I found this. Got to meet this guy... oh, not meet, follow his group at last years Great Lakes for a few holes. You know, keeping social distance before it was cool. The intent being they don't know you are there or at the least you don't bother them. Yet close enough that your brain is going, "that is THE Thomas Gilbert right there in front of me." Dude just bombs and what stuck out is how smooth his motion is.
Great breakdown of your own form T. Thank you very much for great visuals and eloquence. I learned most important for me detail. Proper power pocket preparation and 90 degree necessity. Anxiously await for not videos, next season. Want to see you winning more events. Because you can. Thank you Mr.Gilbert.
Excellent camera angles and use of slo-mo. Thanks!
Best form critique everrrrrrrrrr! Thanks Thomas!
Best form video I’ve seen. Thanks Thomas!!!
I was just looking for some good slow-mo form from you! Glad we get your breakdown on top of it!
I picked up a disc for the first time 5 months ago, and played close to every day since. I’ve been watching tons of form vids and built my max distance up to about 375-400’. This video was very helpful, and I look forward to recording my own form to compare and critique.
Thank you for sharing your form and thoughts on technique!
Great instructional video. I'm now a subscriber. Look forward to future videos. Thanks.
This is an amazing video, it is practically impossible to slow down a youtube video just by itself enough to actually catch what happens between when the disc comes across the torso to where it actaully leaves the hand, i try all the time to catch just 1 freeze frame between those 2 points and if i do catch anything its a total blur🤙
Great breakdown. Love the power pocket huck face.
Your outline and perspectives on your crush is very helpful!!
Now, we need a video to show us all how to create the perfect HUCK face!
You gotta watch Ricky's channel for that.
Love it. I’ve been waiting for this one man! Good stuff
Well done, the RHBH tee shot video was one of the best I’ve seen. Not as wordy as Danny’s so easier to understand. Left arm points are clear as is the power pocket. You must be doing a hard brace with your as your follow through is less as twirl in comparison to Paige, Paul and Eagle
Great breakdown Thomas! No matter how many of these I watch I still learn something new lol. I’d like to see more from you in the future for sure! Your insight on putting and how you approach tee shots comes to mind but the possibilities are endless
Thanks Thomas! I definitly have to work one this "Power pocket" and my reach back. 👍
Thank you for this video bro. I think the biggest take away I got is that I was planting with a open stance. I didn’t realize that the plant foot need to stay sideways not only when planting but on the run up.
Great work! Congrats on 1K subscribers!
Thomas, just ordered your 2020 Tour Fundraiser Series Destroyer. Any idea which Destroyer mold it is based on?
Important to note that from the instant your chest stops moving forward, your elbow is going in a circle 90° to your right. Your ability (strength/speed) to keep the center of mass of the disc from getting “outside” the line of force (direction your pulling) allows you to continue accelerating much longer than most throwers. Velocity is acceleration over time. Time is this instance is the linear distance you are able to actually apply force (helped by the angular velocity of your elbow extension). Very nice. Concentrate on how fast you can get your elbow to go to go in a circular motion to your right before the center of mass of the disc rips it out of your hand as it puts massive amounts of spin on the disc in the process.
This helps me alot to see what I am doing wrong. I thank you sir for your help
This video is epic. Thank you. In the future, play some casual rounds and tell us what you’re thinking, what your line is, what disc, and why for each shot. Also how to throw on inclines/hills side-to-side or front-back slopes.
Hendrik did a great job! Keep up the good work
Very nice breakdown of the form! It’s nice to see it from other people perspective and not just Simon or Eagle if that makes sense. Lol... Keep the vids coming man we all love em...⛓👍
The most impressive thing about Thomas' distance lines is that they look like golf lines as opposed to the distance lines that other pros throw.
Calvin has entered the chat.
Great video and break down! Tutorials from the pros will always get a like and subscribe out of me.
Another key point guys is Thomas didn't really know he is doing this until he analyzed it. This is the part that I believe all of the top players just "get" it. Not saying you can't learn it, but it's a lot harder to learn this by watching mechanics vs feeling it out and getting it naturally.
Amazing and to the point, also pay attention to the head being very still and it only turns with the shoulders, ie the chin and right shoulder stay together, lastly, I think it would be helpful to see your grip and thumb position.
The best I’ve not only heard But seen, great brake down of that Killer Drive of yours, what’s next, we are watching?
Very well done! Great information and you clearly put some time into editing a helpful video for us.
Thank you for this video Thomas
i wanna see how you get certain discs to do certain things , like how do you go about throwing a 400ft shot under a low ceiling through tunnel like what stability to choose and what angle you release to achieve the dead straight 400 in tunnel low ceiling etc?
I love this idea! 🤔
This is awesome and really helpful! Good job on the video
That was great. I would be satisfyed if I could throw 350 feet. Now it goes about 300 - 320 feet. I have lots of errors in my technic.
Awesome stuff! This was super helpful.
Truly Art in motion.
Thanks for that video. Could you share the software you are using to step through the video. I am looking for a good disc track app and a stepping function. Curious what your using. This video will help me a lot after I video myself. Thanks 👍
How tall is Thomas? Him and I have pretty much identical body types and I am 6’ 5” so I’d really like to understand how he is throwing. I’m only throwing about 350’ currently and I would really like to get it to be around 500 as he is well beyond that mark.
Hi Thomas. My wife wants to know how she can adapt your form to keep the disc super tight to her chest when there are things in the way. Would you release a video addressing that?
Thanks, time to go out and practice the form! You have a killer sidearm as well, can you do a clinic on that to?
Silky Sweet and will be a huge help. Thanks!
Nice huk face!
Great video, thanks. Maybe you could continue from here to do the same for different shot shapes like hyzer and anhyzer? What will change and maybe it could be something you like to see yourself too? And how to do that in consistent way (if there any tips on consistent angle control).
Love the video as always but I really like the disc racks on your walls
Sweet breakdown! Subscribed!
Wow. Informative and concise.
very instructive video, thank you
Great breakdown!
I throw as far as u.........after 5 throws!!😁 Appreciate the instruction Thomas. I'll apply this and we'll see what happens!
How do you get this good without taking a deep dive into your form first?
I definitely have taken in-depth looks before just not within the last year or so. I definitely was looking at slo-mo videos of my form a lot when I was first learning how to improve my form.
@@thomasgilbert54 Hey it would be pretty awesome if you could do one of these slowmos for a Big Hyzer form, Anhyzer form, and Roller form!
great video man, thanks for this. working on 400+ now.
More technique please. That was excellent thanks for that!
great video. more like this and maybe some on those discs behind you. what 3 discs would you keep if you could only keep 3?
Fantastic video!!! The next one should be how to putt 100 feet 😆 how to jump putt!
are you doing anything to ensure that your throw is nose down when doing a full power throw?
I think that all comes in how you grip the disc. The only other issue would be your weight transfer and if your arm tends to raise at the end of your throw.
Do you push off with your left leg from your toes? I think pull or elbowing can work if done after the hips engage, but do you just use your arm at the beginning? I feel like I don't use mine until it gets to the pocket
That damn mirror. I swore there were 2x as many discs in that room for minutes.
I just played MA40 at the Jonesboro open. I was struggling. It would’ve been easier if I had your power.
Great tips! I know you've trained with Henrik before. I had the opportunity to take one of his clinics in London, and it really helped me with my backhand. I was wondering if you've ever thought of doing your own clinics, or perhaps joining Henrik on some of his?
So how do i stop continuing to rotate my shoulders and moving the pocket with me?
Any tips on how to change the color of a dark lime green disc?
The best way I've found is to shank it into the bushes and buy another one.
Thomas I got a question, when you say "crossing well behind" at 0:40 are you referencing the placement of your right foot on the first step or your left foot crossing over. Thanks
My left foot crossing over behind making the “X” of the X-step
@@thomasgilbert54 Sweet just making sure, thanks man! Keep up the great content 👍
Awesome video! Super helpful for everyone out there. What drills can be done to get a tighter power pocket?
I’d say focus on pulling you elbow through on the same line your arm makes when it’s fully extended. This should ensure that it stays tight and powerful that stays in a linear motion throughout the pull through
Thomas, did you really get to 600ft without taking in-depth looks at your form before?? After this form breakdown, did you identify anything you want to change or improve?
I definitely have taken in-depth looks before just not within the last year or so. I definitely was looking at slo-mo videos of my form a lot when I was learning how to improve my form. I think I could still improve the speed of rotation and transfer of energy so the disc can come out a little faster but it’s not something I’m too concerned about.
@@thomasgilbert54 hi thomas. thanks for the response. definitely wasn't calling you out or anything, just impressed with your natural ability! keep on rockin man, can't wait to see you out there again.
Excellent! Ik what I'm doing tomorrow
Thomas, how hard are you gripping the disc to hold on to it so long into the throw? I feel like I have decent hand strength from playing bass and guitar my whole life, but I can’t seem to hold onto the disc long enough. My hand is relaxed during most of the swing and then I try to clamp down at the end but the disc always feels like it is coming out before I can really sling it like you do. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks man!
Are you focusing on driving your elbow through on the shot. Or do you get the extra whip from the brace and it happens more naturally?
It’s not anything specifically that allows me to throw further. It’s all the things done together with near perfect timing that all adds power to the throw. To help improve overall power, try working on one aspect of the throw at a time until it’s all synced with each other!
Great video, is there any drills or ways to improve the release point? How you said your hand still maintains a fist per say, I’ve been having trouble with my snap release out of my hand.
Nick Logsdon I don’t think there are any specific drill to do but while doing field work just keep trying to increase your arm speed and continuously try to keep a straight and accurate release point. The faster the arm speed the more the disc should “snap” out of your hand. It also could be that the energy you’ve built up is not quite fully transferring to your finger which would let you feel the full force of the “snap”.
Great video! I'll probably be watching it many times to compare my form against yours and fix things I do wrong.
A question though: Do you push off with your back leg (left leg) into the throw? Or does the leg just collapse inwards/forwards as you're rotating your hips?
Good question on that back leg... I too would like to know...
After thinking and reenacting my throw I believe it just collapses in as I rotate my hips. I’m definitely not consciously trying to push off my back leg.
@@thomasgilbert54 Are you just rotating normally into when your leg drops or do you "pop" your hip to snap it into that position, I've heard people say they "pull" though to get into the power pocket but I've also head that people say they pop their hip and they motion pulls their arm into the power pocket, just by the acceleration and leverage.
I definitely snap my hips through first and then follow it with my upper body pull through.
Nice, thank you for this!
Perfect...thanks so much for that.
Is this a hyzer release to flip to flat or what kind of release are you going for for a 600ft shot?
Dude this helped so much
I’d be into seeing a video like this for your putting stroke. Your putts come out so flat every time and I wanna know your thoughts on what goes into it. Maybe some tips and tricks for finding your putt.
Turns out this already existed. My bad! Lol ruclips.net/video/XE4SVA3OsGg/видео.html
Do you push off on your back foot to start the weight transfer?
Nice video thank you
Thx on the point
Great video
Do your fingers get tingly when you really put some effort in? I can’t figure out if I’m doing something wrong lol
Wow such Rich wood grain! 👍
2:16 through 2:40 is Genius...Canadian Genius, yet indeed genius nonetheless. - Seriously tho...get forward, and let go, before you spin and stop.
I also like how you're line of sight is always in the power pocket until you snap the disc.
Thanks! Now outside to throw some 600tf whips..