I am not taking anything away from Andre 3000 as a great southern rap lyricist, but Scarface is the TRUE GODFATHER of Southern Rap. Scarface is in a class by himself for Southern Rap. As a matter of fact, Scarface is the first rapper from the south to be taken SERIOUSLY as a REAL EMCEE coming from the south. Scarface goes back to the very early 90s when EASTCOAST AND WESTCOAST rappers dominated Hip Hop. Back then, Scarface singlehandedly held Southern Rap on his shoulders. Scarface was to THE SOUTH what Ice Cube and Ice T was to THE WEST and what Kool G Rap was to THE EAST. Scarface has the BEST hood storytelling lyrics of THE SOUTH, plus he had SUBSTANCE in his lyrics as well. There are a couple of other Southern Rappers who are Great like Andre 3000, Big Boi, Ludacris, Mystical, and T.I; but NONE OF THEM could EVER touch SCARFACE in his prime. SCARFACE is the G.O.A.T of THE SOUTH. All other Southern Rappers come after SCARFACE.
You're Absolutely Right,But Not Just The South He Top 5 In My Book Also Add The D.O.C Not Enough Credit They Wanna Keep Us In Some Imaginary Box They Say Biggie,Nas Or Jay Z Is The Greatest In All Rap Or Hip-Hop, but When It Comes 2 Us Below The Mason Dixie Line It's Partial Credit The Numbers Don't Lie Scarface From The 80's Group,And Solo Say Mia X Is The Greatest Female Rapper Who Can Squabble With Anybody Bar 4 Bar,Song 4 Song They Try 2 Keep Us Out The Conversation!1❤
Scar was taken seriously because he didn't sound southern. If the man never stated where he is from I promise you no one would assume Texas. So he didn't have to prove much of anything. No southern twang or nothing.
And also it’s evident that Dre is was/is as great as he he because of big boi. Big took so much pressure off his shoulder and it’s evident that one can keep putting out quality albums. While the other one can’t
@fiveduece52 I've NEVER heard thatbalbum.and I'm ashamed. I was definitely outside when it was released and lots of my friends swore it was hard I was an MJG guy but oddly Ball turned out to be the more consistent artist in my opinion. Not hearing thT album is one of my hip hop regrets cause I live Ball and MjG.
NY blueprint for arguing. 1. Be Loud 2. Highlight only your own points 3. Talk louder 4. Diss downplay disregard and roast the person and their points. A lot. 4. Laugh at them while getting even louder.
@@obeliskjiren9129 You krazy go Listen to Scarface album The Fix just to name one , the man got songs Rapping about God No Curse words or violent shit in the Songs its like 3 of them on their like that!!!! Just say Face is very Versatile .....
I'm taking The Geto boys all day, The Resurrection was one of the greatest albums of all time. You can't put Andre over Brad. There's no skips on none of Faces albums and Deeply Rooted was wayyy better than The Love Below. BHigh must Be high.
Naw. Bro. 'FACE is cold, but I've had to rewind on 3000's tracks, to make sure I kept up on whatever his angle was, on that track. That makes him Colder!
This is & was a super dope conversation B High! 😅😅😅😂😂😂. Salute BHigh, u stood your ground. Y'ALL was on the block & the barbershop conversation with this 1. Salute
I’m so glad you put himself in all caps. That’s my biggest point when it comes to Andree. The lox have shown they are all great mcs by their self but dree has not shown that
Hold up. Fool, just don't throw sh*t out, for if it was said that's just showing respect. You can put all of OutKast albums, whether it be Big Boi or Andre 3000 alone, and not one can touch Scarface catalog. Hell face last project, "Deeply Rooted", definitely proved he's a problem. So aside from OutKast, and just throw in 3 stacks, name one solo album from him that competes with any of Scarface? I'll wait. #facts Texas all day South Park Hustle Town Texas forever.
He also said he wasn't the King of the South when Tip was claiming it. But we all knew he was. My point is Face is humble and doesn't think of himself as one of the GREATS.
Scarface the greatest breathing,You can put all of OutKast albums up to Scarface’s solo albums,Face wins all day. Face and Big Mike vs Andre and Big Boy would get ugly,respectfully.
The dopest thing about bid convo to me is that they all have history in the game. Regardless of who’s “right” this type of convo is missing in the main steam and needed. For all the stuff dj envy has been around I’ve never heard him have a convo like this. Keep up the debate guys
ATL dudes always in they’re feelings. Lol. WHY? If a New Yorker picks Wu Tang or Run DMC they say they hating. If West Coast dude picks NWA over Outkast, they get upset and say we all hating. Outlast is DOPE!!! But they not greater than Run DMC, Wu Tang, NWA, or Tribe Called Quest. Also, Scarface IS greater than Andre. The South has done a lot. But facts are they don’t have the number spot in any category and stay trying to force it on us.
@@dantaviasingleton-kk2yjright. NY people are haters to everything outside of their burroughs. I've never heard of Eastern hospitality or western they say southern hospitality because we welcoming to all people and don't have a bias because of where you from
@@dantaviasingleton-kk2yj it’s never New Yorkers crying about these list c’mon Turk was just on here talking about NY bias cause hot boyz was 25 and outkast number 1 ain’t too many New Yorkers talking about this billboard list
You cant turn on the radio now without hearing 36 mafia an the Memphis sound. But in the late 90's early 2 thousands people didn't understand the sound... when i played Skinny pimp, Playa Fly and Project Pat to my out of town fam 15 years ago i got blank stares
@@Pinnacl3 Mississippi next up... yall gat the best talent! Yall always had the best talent cause snoop, nas, 2pac all them nigga grand parents from mississippi. Plus Big Krit in my top 10
You have to be old enough to remember Run DMC. They are the first also the best. Dress code, rhymes, and ground breaking to crack the code of mainstream 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Andre ain't competing with Scarface 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Professor Cleon. I’ve analyzed your wonderful grammar skills, and I’ll be sure to forward your information to the staff at Grammarly. It takes a special person to correct a meaningless you tube post but I truly thank you for your consistency sir!!😊
“When dealing with people, let us remember we are not dealing with creatures of logic. We are dealing with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudices and motivated by pride and vanity.”
It’s such a great debate… and to remain non emotional about it is very hard. Such respect to Run DMC, their legend cannot be disrespected. However, B High is correct. When 3000 said the south got something to say, that statement unlocked the South in so many ways… and made ears really listen to the fact that the south has so many lyricists that needed to be taken seriously. Geto Boys and Scarface are legends as well…. But we cannot overlook the GLOBAL brand that is OutKast…. They are the greatest hip hop group of all time. PERIOD…
@@MrWARBUCKS24 no doubt… those guys paved the way for Hip Hop groups. But with the South continuing to have the hold on Hip Hop and has continued too with so many MCs, the unlock that Kast gave here forces them in the #1 spot..
No one really cared about the statement when he said it. It was overblown. Nobody really knew about it until years later. People were more forced on Bad Boy/Death Row/East vs. West beef. Only people who keep bringing it up are people from the Deep South. No one from SC, NC, or VA ever cared.
@@hitek9too255exactly nobody cared about that but here’s what’s interesting about that night 95 source award that nobody talks about is the crowd boo’d Run Dmc too the city was on some bullshit a lot was going on in that building that wasn’t regional shit NY vs NY
OutKast brought that otherworldly futuristic sound that young thug, lil Wayne manly this whole rap generation now and big boy was a real southern lyric b boy
Facts.. If somebody ask you who's the goat from the South, & you don't say 3K or Weezy, then you really ain't qualified to talk about this sh1t. Face up there tho, like #3.
@@RapSensei you're delusional face is the greatest southern emcee of all time....no contest....n scarface is a top 5 to 10 emcee of all time period....personally my 🐐 but 2 many others regardless of region..Andre 3k has no rap song...4get rap album...man plz..when he can rap a song wit 3 verses ..den we can talk
@@jamaaldavis7907 One solid verse from 3k can outshine a whole song from most artist. Face is top 5, because of his realness & rawness but lyricism, cut it tf out.
B High do be cheerleading for Outkast real hard. I love Kast, no doubt. But some of the points he be trying to make don't even calculate. Boomiverse over Any Scarface album is just ridiculous.
3000 and Scarface is in 2 different lanes!! Scarface is more gangster and 3000 is a philosophical rapper!! I still have to say Scarface is the true king of the south, no disrespect to TI 😁And I would say RunDmc is the blueprint to a 2 man crew but Outkast did more as a 2man crew!!! Outkast took a duo group to a level nobody has seen before but RunDmc made having a duo group famous but RunDmc had a DJ that was apart of their group and Outkast didn't!! Lets just celebrate the good music we got from them! The only thing I'm sure of is that Tupac tops all!!!!
If we are talking about body of work it’s not even close. Stacks doesn’t even have a solo rap album. All his best work is with OutKast. All of Face’s best work is without the Geto Boys. I’m with Choke 100%. Where we disagree is the Run DMC vs OutKast part. Respect to RUN DMC for being pioneers on a mainstream level but they ain’t OutKast. And no way in hell is the Geto Boys above Outkast lol
Damn. I am starting think that Wicked did steal Big Boi''s car lol. Maybe a Ghetto Mafia (Gangsta Nino & Wicked) feat. Royal C & DJ Kizzy Rock Versuz OutKast (Andre 3000 & Big Boi) feat. Hitman Sammy Sam & Killer Mike is needed.
Im sorry but this outkast love fest lately is comical. The music now sounds more like DJ paul's music than outkast. Pimp C was also bigger than Andre in the mid 2000s. Texas was running the game for awhile
"THEY DON'T DANCE NO MORE. ALL THEY DO IS THIS" CHOKE THE JOKE. NOBODY WAS MOVING NOTHING BUT D. SCARFACE LYRICS MOVED PEOPLE TO A STATE OF COMATOSE & DEPRESSION. (THE BEST FUNERAL MUSIC EVER) THAT HE WAS GOOD AT. NEVER SEEN CROWDS DANCING OR HAVING A GOOD TIME FROM THEIR MUSIC. THEY JUST STAND PARANOID & SMOKE. THEN REMINISCE ON SAD OCCASIONS.
Facts 🤣 I mean if you want to say Scarface better then Dre and Big Boi individually I'm with you but Willie D and Bushwick bill can't f*ck with Outkast or Goodie🤣
I love 3 stacks but idk how you can put him over Scarface. My Minds Playing tricks on me is on another level lyrically and story telling wise then anything outkast has put out. I would put 3000 #2 in all time southern rap though. No question
Both 3K & Face.. top 5 all-time rappers from the South along with Lil Wayne & Mystikal. But let's be honest, if 3k drops right now he'll set the world on 🔥. He's what Dr. Dre meant by a "Forever Artist".
Face yes. Stacks no. You can’t be that high without a solo rap album. We haven’t heard Stacks rap on an entire project since 01 (Stankonia). He low key turned his back on rap only doing features every blue moon and he’s top 5? Where’s the evidence? 🤨
@@TheRealLeonardWashington You really have to judge an artist by their "overall" contributions to Hip Hop. 3Ks contributions are just unmatched. I get you on the solo part about Face leaving TGB. But remember, "The Love Below" was all about him. I love Face. It's almost anybody but 3K.
@@RapSensei the love below is not a rap album so you can’t use that as an example. The problem is a lot of you younger hip hop heads don’t give af about albums. When in reality albums are what separates the men from the pups. Hell Stacks doesn’t even have more than one solo rap song by himself. So let me ask you this. Does level of difficulty matter? Because which is easier? Making a full song by yourself or just dropping 16 bars and going to the next song?
@@dlc2087 I agree, that album was about him going pop but he did rap on 2 songs. My point is, if you put 3Ks top work against anybody in the south, he comes out on top. Face is definitely a worthy opponent, I'm not saying he's not.. but even right now, I think most would rather hear a 3k verse over face.
How can you even compare the two. They both are great, they both have different styles. I just hate when we start pitting us against each other. A list is just a list, it means nothing to me.A lot of times it’s not even us making the list then we fall for this divide and conquer mentality! SMDH
My opinion and mines alone, I don’t think anyone is fucking with Scarface in a Verzuz. His stage shows tell you where he’s at in the lyrical club of MC’s, he’s in my top 5.
OutKast might be doper but Run DMC is greater. Historically, they impacted more seismically and tremendously. Pure b-boy aesthetic yet transcendent forays into rock radio, pop journalism, MTV, and beyond. Their imprint upon hip hop as well as popular culture is indelible and ubiquitous. That crossover lane that Kast and most other hip hop artists benefited from was blueprinted by the Kings From Queens.
😢no they are not. Pioneers yes. Thats like saying Mellie Mell greater than Biggie. Run Dmc kicked down the doors,Outkast blew off the roof and repped a whole region.
@@jameszachery2250 false equivalency. LL would be a better comparison to BIG. OutKast didn't rock the world as a hip hop group the way Run DMC did. They literally proved hip hop was here to stay as they ushered in the next school after the old school was fizzling. Their aesthetics alone give Run DMC an iconic status that The 2 Dope Boys In A Cadillac can't claim. 2 MCs and a DJ. The bombastic stage show. Stadium status. The b-boy stance. The hard edge b-boy beats. The groundbreaking hits. The Run DMC logo is one of the most imitated logos, the immediate image of what people vision as hip hop is closer to the brand Run DMC established than OutKast. Gold chains, bucket hats, Adidas tracksuits, the shoes. The only rap act doing events with major pop, rock, and funk artists. They hit an apex during the era of MJ, Prince, Madonna, Bruce Springsteen. They took rap mainstream. And influenced the next two or three rap generations including Dre & Big. OutKast is doper, but Run DMC is greater.
@@rbiznezz2 greater is a size. Outkast more awards More units sold More classic albums More classic bars More albums sold More top ten singles. Stop being delusional. I wore fatboy shoe strings I wore adidas I wore track suits Run Dmc the pioneers they the foundation but they aint greater. Yall know MJ greater than James Brown even though James is where everybody get they shit from . James Brown is the fouundation for Mj
Wick & Choke no Joooooooke you are welcomed to the Texas BBQ cookout here in Houston … I got y’all plane ticket & Hotel whenever you ready… thanks for recognizing Face for his deep lyricism and storytelling.. I love 3000 but Face word play is just as dangerous…I’m sorry b High but Face all day
It's like Skip, Shannon and Charles Barkley in the room arguing. 😂
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Who's Charles? Wicked? Lol 🤣
I am not taking anything away from Andre 3000 as a great southern rap lyricist, but Scarface is the TRUE GODFATHER of Southern Rap. Scarface is in a class by himself for Southern Rap. As a matter of fact, Scarface is the first rapper from the south to be taken SERIOUSLY as a REAL EMCEE coming from the south. Scarface goes back to the very early 90s when EASTCOAST AND WESTCOAST rappers dominated Hip Hop. Back then, Scarface singlehandedly held Southern Rap on his shoulders. Scarface was to THE SOUTH what Ice Cube and Ice T was to THE WEST and what Kool G Rap was to THE EAST. Scarface has the BEST hood storytelling lyrics of THE SOUTH, plus he had SUBSTANCE in his lyrics as well. There are a couple of other Southern Rappers who are Great like Andre 3000, Big Boi, Ludacris, Mystical, and T.I; but NONE OF THEM could EVER touch SCARFACE in his prime. SCARFACE is the G.O.A.T of THE SOUTH. All other Southern Rappers come after SCARFACE.
#Preach
You're Absolutely Right,But Not Just The South He Top 5 In My Book Also Add The D.O.C Not Enough Credit They Wanna Keep Us In Some Imaginary Box They Say Biggie,Nas Or Jay Z Is The Greatest In All Rap Or Hip-Hop, but When It Comes 2 Us Below The Mason Dixie Line It's Partial Credit The Numbers Don't Lie Scarface From The 80's Group,And Solo Say Mia X Is The Greatest Female Rapper Who Can Squabble With Anybody Bar 4 Bar,Song 4 Song They Try 2 Keep Us Out The Conversation!1❤
Big facts. IMO Face is the true king of the south.
Scar was taken seriously because he didn't sound southern. If the man never stated where he is from I promise you no one would assume Texas. So he didn't have to prove much of anything. No southern twang or nothing.
And also it’s evident that Dre is was/is as great as he he because of big boi. Big took so much pressure off his shoulder and it’s evident that one can keep putting out quality albums. While the other one can’t
8ball and MJG.. Coming out Hard is a Classic!!!
Nyggas be sleeping on ball n g
In our lifetime classic
8 ball lost double album to me is just as good as life after death
Definitely . Super classic
@fiveduece52 I've NEVER heard thatbalbum.and I'm ashamed. I was definitely outside when it was released and lots of my friends swore it was hard
I was an MJG guy but oddly Ball turned out to be the more consistent artist in my opinion. Not hearing thT album is one of my hip hop regrets cause I live Ball and MjG.
Awesome segment. Face is a MONSTER in the game. Love Andre Ben, but Face as a solo artist is Untouchable.
#Preach
I see what u did there
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N untouchable album classic..💯💯
So Scarface was out & POPPIN almost 10 years before Outkast and was STILL POPPIN when Outkast blew up‼️ Think about that 🤔
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Face was still poppin when they went solo
NY blueprint for arguing.
1. Be Loud
2. Highlight only your own points
3. Talk louder
4. Diss downplay disregard and roast the person and their points. A lot.
4. Laugh at them while getting even louder.
And that's why yall loose debating us and run to the comment section
FACTS‼️. Just loud and wrong
All 3 are loud 😂
South blueprint for arguing= Be biased, Be delusional, and be wrong.
Fuck that 3STACKS cant fuck with UNCLE FACE.....and this from the BOGGIE DOWN BRONX BABY..NO DOUBT..
These 3 need to do a podcast every week straight up
They can't fuck with Scarface 💯
At all
Andre Can't do a Versus against Face , he don't even have a Solo album🤔🤣🤣😆
He has a solo album and his songs reach levels Scarface hasn’t seen.
@@obeliskjiren9129 You krazy go Listen to Scarface album The Fix just to name one , the man got songs Rapping about God No Curse words or violent shit in the Songs its like 3 of them on their like that!!!! Just say Face is very Versatile .....
Love Below
@@9upreme638 it's not a solo album it's a double rap album, Big Boi still help him in that album
You don’t need a solo album for versus
I'm taking The Geto boys all day, The Resurrection was one of the greatest albums of all time. You can't put Andre over Brad. There's no skips on none of Faces albums and Deeply Rooted was wayyy better than The Love Below. BHigh must Be high.
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Naw. Bro. 'FACE is cold, but I've had to rewind on 3000's tracks, to make sure I kept up on whatever his angle was, on that track. That makes him Colder!
WU-TANG is the GOAT!
#Preach Deeply Rooted is low key one of the greatest albums of all time...no skips all 🔥
Scareface on another level 🎤
Not betta den Dre lyrically 💯
@@coachk9843Cap
@@coachk9843what album
@@fats3231 no cap. An u must’ve been born yesterday if u think so.
@@quincyevans2620 features an all his albums nigga 💯tf u talm bout
“Don’t Go Out Here & Die Today Choke” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Bruh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 with the serious look tellin him
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I see Face, I click play. My GOAT
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This is & was a super dope conversation B High! 😅😅😅😂😂😂. Salute BHigh, u stood your ground. Y'ALL was on the block & the barbershop conversation with this 1. Salute
Much love to 3 stacks he’s super dope but Scarface has classic albums by HIMSELF from the 90s to the 2000’s! This is no comparison.
Andre 3k has no song by himself rapping..the overrated ness...f.o.h.
FACTS 💯
If you the Goat you the Goat y’all taking him out the convo but bars matter
I’m so glad you put himself in all caps. That’s my biggest point when it comes to Andree. The lox have shown they are all great mcs by their self but dree has not shown that
@@jamaaldavis7907all dat cap u talking
A never ending debate, it's a matter of opinion, and preference.
Exactly
Facts
Bone Thugs being ranked #21 was a MISDEMEANOR.
@@MikeJones-pf4wd yeah they should’ve definitely been top 10
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Scarface is a better story teller than André 3000 and I’m a huge fan of both. Scarface is top three best storyteller of all time no debate.
I'm with joke on this one. Face intros/outros is legendary. 😂😂
Face said you have to bow down when you mention 3000. Literally.
Maybe so but this niggah on homer shyt it took a DECADE for the A after 3k said that shilyt
Hold up. Fool, just don't throw sh*t out, for if it was said that's just showing respect. You can put all of OutKast albums, whether it be Big Boi or Andre 3000 alone, and not one can touch Scarface catalog. Hell face last project, "Deeply Rooted", definitely proved he's a problem. So aside from OutKast, and just throw in 3 stacks, name one solo album from him that competes with any of Scarface? I'll wait. #facts Texas all day South Park Hustle Town Texas forever.
He also said he wasn't the King of the South when Tip was claiming it. But we all knew he was. My point is Face is humble and doesn't think of himself as one of the GREATS.
@@killemall923 exactly in his heart he knows he's all tike great.....
@@killemall923 n 1 of the greatest period....
Scarface the greatest breathing,You can put all of OutKast albums up to Scarface’s solo albums,Face wins all day. Face and Big Mike vs Andre and Big Boy would get ugly,respectfully.
Aye....i'm from Oakland,Cali and live in Houston AND I LOVE Outkast but.....Scarface is the same thing that he called his album....UNTOUCHABLE.
Im with choke on this one....scarface is crazy😤😤😤😤
He not better than 3000
What has Andre 3000 done outside of outkast? Face has 3 solo albums better than any one outkast album. The fix, untouchable, Diary.
@@DVitamin3Means nothing
@@DVitamin3 facts cuz
@@DVitamin3okay you can argue that Face is better than 3 Stackz. But GetoBoys is not a better group than Outkast tho.
The dopest thing about bid convo to me is that they all have history in the game. Regardless of who’s “right” this type of convo is missing in the main steam and needed. For all the stuff dj envy has been around I’ve never heard him have a convo like this. Keep up the debate guys
ATL dudes always in they’re feelings. Lol. WHY? If a New Yorker picks Wu Tang or Run DMC they say they hating. If West Coast dude picks NWA over Outkast, they get upset and say we all hating. Outlast is DOPE!!! But they not greater than Run DMC, Wu Tang, NWA, or Tribe Called Quest. Also, Scarface IS greater than Andre. The South has done a lot. But facts are they don’t have the number spot in any category and stay trying to force it on us.
Stop it😂😂u New Yorkers be on that bullsh*t!
@@dantaviasingleton-kk2yjright. NY people are haters to everything outside of their burroughs. I've never heard of Eastern hospitality or western they say southern hospitality because we welcoming to all people and don't have a bias because of where you from
@@dantaviasingleton-kk2yj it’s never New Yorkers crying about these list c’mon Turk was just on here talking about NY bias cause hot boyz was 25 and outkast number 1 ain’t too many New Yorkers talking about this billboard list
@LowerEastSidePR b*ch get it right its country rap tunes we don't f*ck with that up north corny sh*t.
I love big Boi and andre 3000. Both of them are super dope but choke is right. Brad Jordan is on another level
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What’s his last name 😂 end of debate
Love this. Boys debating and disagreeing but with nothing but love in their hearts for hip hop, the culture and one another. ❤
If we talking, about longevity, lyrical skills, and down right rawness Andre can't touch Scarface.
Are you drunk or high? Outkast is the greatest rap group of all time.
Im a georgia boy and i love outkast. But that ugk hit different for me....
Right on
UGK are ABC rappers
Scarface is the 🐐
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NAS is the 🐐
Nas =GOAT!
Face da 💯🐐🔥
Choke wild😂😂😂😂 in thr year 3000 blowing an F'n flute
Dre was forward-thinking and ahead of his time
You cant turn on the radio now without hearing 36 mafia an the Memphis sound. But in the late 90's early 2 thousands people didn't understand the sound... when i played Skinny pimp, Playa Fly and Project Pat to my out of town fam 15 years ago i got blank stares
I'm from Mississippi and I carried that with me up to Minneapolis and my West Coast and Midwest folks LOVED it.
@@Pinnacl3 Mississippi next up... yall gat the best talent! Yall always had the best talent cause snoop, nas, 2pac all them nigga grand parents from mississippi. Plus Big Krit in my top 10
@@originalautochthonous6561 I think K.R.I.T has been that dude. People slept on him like they slept on Killer Mike. But the real ones know.
I’m 45 so my personal opinion I’m a FaceMob guy but Dre is hard ASF but he fell back so he didn’t have to sell his Soul
Andre 3000 went Pop to fast for me Scarface iz the king of southern gangsta rap ......
Damn, he’s young as Hell !! 39 ? You missed ALOT !!
The disrespect for OutKast is blasphemy..Run DMC ain't got nothing on them!!!
Run dmc are the architecs lol. Everyone from east to west north to south rap because of RUNDMC.
@@455silverwaterLiterally 🎯
Run dmc are those guys. But you can't compare the quality of music and the longevity..
@@coreyharrison2551 rundmc are the pioneers and architects...
@@455silverwaternobody raps cause of run dmc lol they wasn't the first ever rappers
B is High....Face all day....3stacks is dope now Scarface on the other hand is a BEAST 🔈🔉🔊🎼🎶🎵💯
This was pure comedy 😂
Scarface above everyone except Pac...I'm taking eightball and mjg over any group album for album...let's go!!!
Exactly! Ball and G is my favorite group too. Scarface is in my top 5. My favorite Outkast album is the first one.
@@YoungVet_OG_702 great minds think alike 💪🏿💯
Y'all be getting favorite and best confused.
@@randomcharacter6501 There's no best in rapping homie. It's all opinion based. Stop talking down on folks.
Let the music speak for itself !!
The 3 of yall need a podcast together
You have to be old enough to remember Run DMC. They are the first also the best. Dress code, rhymes, and ground breaking to crack the code of mainstream 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Andre ain't competing with Scarface 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Scarface got hits and classics
Outkast does too and sold more records than him
@@thomasanderson468sold dont mean nothin . They are commercial . But they dont have more classics than face solo.
Face is so underrated and overlooked . CANT ANYBODY FUQQ WITH HIM
B-high handled the two twins by himself !!
Cap lol
"Twins" Means 2👌🏿. "He Handled The Twins" Is How That Should Go.
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Thanks Professor Cleon. I’ve analyzed your wonderful grammar skills, and I’ll be sure to forward your information to the staff at Grammarly. It takes a special person to correct a meaningless you tube post but I truly thank you for your consistency sir!!😊
“When dealing with people, let us remember we are not dealing with creatures of logic. We are dealing with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudices and motivated by pride and vanity.”
😆😅🤣😂" 10:25 , Stop it right there!!! I DON'T TAP DANCE 4 NOBODY!!!😅🤣😂💯💥
Face is a hard act to follow
This interview had me rolling. When BHigh told Choke to take an effing hike, I lost it 😂😂😂
Run Dmc and Aerosmith brought hip hop and rock and roll together with Walk this Way which was groundbreaking for its time
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Wicked got personal hate with Andre 3000. It’s clear
Ghetto Mafia
Versuz
Big Boi & Killer Mike.
Who wins????
They making different points. Are we talking albums, lyricism or trend settings? They all added different things to the game
It’s such a great debate… and to remain non emotional about it is very hard. Such respect to Run DMC, their legend cannot be disrespected. However, B High is correct. When 3000 said the south got something to say, that statement unlocked the South in so many ways… and made ears really listen to the fact that the south has so many lyricists that needed to be taken seriously. Geto Boys and Scarface are legends as well…. But we cannot overlook the GLOBAL brand that is OutKast…. They are the greatest hip hop group of all time. PERIOD…
But we can’t forget Run DMC went around the GLOBE 3 times before Outkast or the south had something to say
@@MrWARBUCKS24 no doubt… those guys paved the way for Hip Hop groups. But with the South continuing to have the hold on Hip Hop and has continued too with so many MCs, the unlock that Kast gave here forces them in the #1 spot..
No one really cared about the statement when he said it. It was overblown. Nobody really knew about it until years later. People were more forced on Bad Boy/Death Row/East vs. West beef. Only people who keep bringing it up are people from the Deep South. No one from SC, NC, or VA ever cared.
@@hitek9too255exactly nobody cared about that but here’s what’s interesting about that night 95 source award that nobody talks about is the crowd boo’d Run Dmc too the city was on some bullshit a lot was going on in that building that wasn’t regional shit NY vs NY
Your sadly mistaken my guy. BTNH4L☠️
OutKast brought that otherworldly futuristic sound that young thug, lil Wayne manly this whole rap generation now and big boy was a real southern lyric b boy
Didn’t young thug say he don’t know who Andre 3000 is
@@MrWARBUCKS24That was a blatant lie. He later retracted that statement
But choke wasn't lying andre 3000 is on another level but scarface man. Thats a hard one real hard one
This is my favorite episode of all time keep them coming
😂😂😂 love y’all brothers chemistry , great conversation!
When he said, 'For Infinite',
Choke looked with the side eye, like huh?
😂😂😅
3000 is the G.O.A.T…
OutKast is G.O.A.T…
Enough said!!!
Facts.. If somebody ask you who's the goat from the South, & you don't say 3K or Weezy, then you really ain't qualified to talk about this sh1t. Face up there tho, like #3.
@@RapSensei you're delusional face is the greatest southern emcee of all time....no contest....n scarface is a top 5 to 10 emcee of all time period....personally my 🐐 but 2 many others regardless of region..Andre 3k has no rap song...4get rap album...man plz..when he can rap a song wit 3 verses ..den we can talk
@@jamaaldavis7907 One solid verse from 3k can outshine a whole song from most artist. Face is top 5, because of his realness & rawness but lyricism, cut it tf out.
Choke gotta become apart of the show🤣🤣🤣🤣
maaaan llamf 😂😂😂
this is a good session here, this is actually what happens when discussing your favorites 🔥🔥🔥💎💎💎
Take a hike! That's right B-High! They can't top Run-DMC tho. They gave us all style, flow, and persona.
Keep this goin! 😂 this is great
Bun B and pimp c is the best rap group ever to me.
B High do be cheerleading for Outkast real hard. I love Kast, no doubt. But some of the points he be trying to make don't even calculate. Boomiverse over Any Scarface album is just ridiculous.
3000 and Scarface is in 2 different lanes!! Scarface is more gangster and 3000 is a philosophical rapper!! I still have to say Scarface is the true king of the south, no disrespect to TI 😁And I would say RunDmc is the blueprint to a 2 man crew but Outkast did more as a 2man crew!!! Outkast took a duo group to a level nobody has seen before but RunDmc made having a duo group famous but RunDmc had a DJ that was apart of their group and Outkast didn't!! Lets just celebrate the good music we got from them! The only thing I'm sure of is that Tupac tops all!!!!
If we are talking about body of work it’s not even close. Stacks doesn’t even have a solo rap album. All his best work is with OutKast. All of Face’s best work is without the Geto Boys. I’m with Choke 100%. Where we disagree is the Run DMC vs OutKast part. Respect to RUN DMC for being pioneers on a mainstream level but they ain’t OutKast. And no way in hell is the Geto Boys above Outkast lol
Your sentiments are spot on
Your comment makes the most sense on here!
Damn. I am starting think that Wicked did steal Big Boi''s car lol.
Maybe a Ghetto Mafia (Gangsta Nino & Wicked) feat. Royal C & DJ Kizzy Rock
Versuz
OutKast (Andre 3000 & Big Boi) feat. Hitman Sammy Sam & Killer Mike is needed.
Out of respect for Outkast, I will not even watch this disrespect unfold.
Kast ain't scarface. You're a jole
Joke
@@jamaaldavis7907 lol
Both Brad and Andre are in my top 5
Tupac
Styles P
Scarface
OutKast
Kanye
Biggs?
Thank u choke keeping that shit 💯🫵🏾BONE CHANGED THE WHOLE DAMN GAME
Im sorry but this outkast love fest lately is comical. The music now sounds more like DJ paul's music than outkast. Pimp C was also bigger than Andre in the mid 2000s. Texas was running the game for awhile
Nobody fuccn with Face but maybe im bias because im from Texas🤷🏿♂️🇨🇱#FunkTown817
My fav pod y'all chemistry crazy 💯...much love from NY 🙌🏿
Man don’t let Choke and his NYC bias divide and conquer us with this Face x 3000 stuff
So when a NY’er bugs up a southern he’s being bias and trying to divide and conquer c’mon.
Untouchable full album from intro to outdoor nuff said.
Wu-Tang is the greatest GROUP, Outkast is the greatest DUO
Yup, no duo from wu can hit the same. And as a group wu is better than outkast
Dungeon Family as a collective is better than the Wu...
@@carlosthomas4468 hell naw
A duo is a group foh.
@@reedirokaj so you would call a couple a group?
Is the world waiting on an Andre album or a Scarface album??? I rest my case😂😂
Maybe because Scarface actually has Solo albums out already!
@@_Tahmarexactly. lol
@@_Tahmar my point exactly..🫡
Neither in today's time
I’m waiting on another Scarface and OutKast
Dude lost argument when he said he would skip thru so much if he had atliens and Aquemini. A 5 mic album in the New York based source magazine
Damn Choke came with the 🔥
It’s no outkast if there is no run DMC
Even Scarface bowed down to 3 Stacks.
Three stacks is a better rapper. But 3 stacks resume ain't touching scarface.
@@coreyharrison2551I have Scarface as the better rapper and better Resume!
That's what GOATS DO: lift up another brotha. But 3000 ain't close to FACE
@@JoshuaMitchell-bey7Face ain’t a better lyricist than Dre.
I agree with the Ceelo Green take.
Scarface is The Greatest of All Time
You're on Dope.
Choke is a typical New Yorker, you can’t argue with them.
"THEY DON'T DANCE NO MORE. ALL THEY DO IS THIS" CHOKE THE JOKE. NOBODY WAS MOVING NOTHING BUT D. SCARFACE LYRICS MOVED PEOPLE TO A STATE OF COMATOSE & DEPRESSION. (THE BEST FUNERAL MUSIC EVER)
THAT HE WAS GOOD AT. NEVER SEEN CROWDS DANCING OR HAVING A GOOD TIME FROM THEIR MUSIC. THEY JUST STAND PARANOID & SMOKE. THEN REMINISCE ON SAD OCCASIONS.
Face was the first to really speak on his own death in hip hop with songs like I'm Dead. The song is a sonic visual of death in the first person.
You speak truth
I was with Choke until he said Geto Boys was better than Outkast😂
Facts 🤣 I mean if you want to say Scarface better then Dre and Big Boi individually I'm with you but Willie D and Bushwick bill can't f*ck with Outkast or Goodie🤣
Saying Big boy or 3000 is better than Scarface is blasphemy!
I love 3 stacks but idk how you can put him over Scarface. My Minds Playing tricks on me is on another level lyrically and story telling wise then anything outkast has put out. I would put 3000 #2 in all time southern rap though. No question
Both 3K & Face.. top 5 all-time rappers from the South along with Lil Wayne & Mystikal. But let's be honest, if 3k drops right now he'll set the world on 🔥. He's what Dr. Dre meant by a "Forever Artist".
Face yes. Stacks no. You can’t be that high without a solo rap album. We haven’t heard Stacks rap on an entire project since 01 (Stankonia). He low key turned his back on rap only doing features every blue moon and he’s top 5? Where’s the evidence? 🤨
@@TheRealLeonardWashington You really have to judge an artist by their "overall" contributions to Hip Hop. 3Ks contributions are just unmatched. I get you on the solo part about Face leaving TGB. But remember, "The Love Below" was all about him. I love Face. It's almost anybody but 3K.
@FreedomRyda2010 the love below was also a bunch of singing..we talking about rap here
@@RapSensei the love below is not a rap album so you can’t use that as an example. The problem is a lot of you younger hip hop heads don’t give af about albums. When in reality albums are what separates the men from the pups. Hell Stacks doesn’t even have more than one solo rap song by himself. So let me ask you this. Does level of difficulty matter? Because which is easier? Making a full song by yourself or just dropping 16 bars and going to the next song?
@@dlc2087 I agree, that album was about him going pop but he did rap on 2 songs. My point is, if you put 3Ks top work against anybody in the south, he comes out on top. Face is definitely a worthy opponent, I'm not saying he's not.. but even right now, I think most would rather hear a 3k verse over face.
The only group that can tour around the globe is..WU Tang.
Choke no hope is tripping, Outkast is the goat 🐐 & Southernplayalistic is the greatest album ever!! 3000 is the best lyricist of all time
Big 🧢! Sir luscious left foot,Daddy fat sack,ATLiens and Aquenimi Son of Chico Dusty Purple Ribbon Allstars Andre Patton 👑
Greatest lyricist ever 🧢 one of the best not the greatest. He don’t do enough individual to have that title. Big boi played a rolled
um no
Aquemini way better but I like both
@@marvinsanders3847 I feel ya
Face and Dre is like apple and oranges, can't compare the two
How can you even compare the two. They both are great, they both have different styles. I just hate when we start pitting us against each other. A list is just a list, it means nothing to me.A lot of times it’s not even us making the list then we fall for this divide and conquer mentality! SMDH
It's called competition. Without it...Men aren't great.
It's jus barber shop talk ppl Gon debate all day
Nobody greater than 3000 !!! Unless Tupac !!!
Bone Thugs is the most influential rap group of ALL TIME! Way over OutKast. They should be #1
Wu number 1 all day
Choke on here trying to to start a fight ..i crying laughing ...B High Handling Wick and Choke I Love it !! 😆😄🤦😂🤣😅😄😆
My opinion and mines alone, I don’t think anyone is fucking with Scarface in a Verzuz. His stage shows tell you where he’s at in the lyrical club of MC’s, he’s in my top 5.
Same here(beside 2Pac& Biggie) such as...
LL Cool J
Rakim
Ice Cube
Scarface
Twista
... not in that order.
OutKast might be doper but Run DMC is greater. Historically, they impacted more seismically and tremendously. Pure b-boy aesthetic yet transcendent forays into rock radio, pop journalism, MTV, and beyond. Their imprint upon hip hop as well as popular culture is indelible and ubiquitous. That crossover lane that Kast and most other hip hop artists benefited from was blueprinted by the Kings From Queens.
😢no they are not. Pioneers yes. Thats like saying Mellie Mell greater than Biggie.
Run Dmc kicked down the doors,Outkast blew off the roof and repped a whole region.
Nope
@@jameszachery2250 false equivalency. LL would be a better comparison to BIG.
OutKast didn't rock the world as a hip hop group the way Run DMC did. They literally proved hip hop was here to stay as they ushered in the next school after the old school was fizzling. Their aesthetics alone give Run DMC an iconic status that The 2 Dope Boys In A Cadillac can't claim. 2 MCs and a DJ. The bombastic stage show. Stadium status. The b-boy stance. The hard edge b-boy beats. The groundbreaking hits. The Run DMC logo is one of the most imitated logos, the immediate image of what people vision as hip hop is closer to the brand Run DMC established than OutKast. Gold chains, bucket hats, Adidas tracksuits, the shoes. The only rap act doing events with major pop, rock, and funk artists. They hit an apex during the era of MJ, Prince, Madonna, Bruce Springsteen. They took rap mainstream. And influenced the next two or three rap generations including Dre & Big. OutKast is doper, but Run DMC is greater.
@@rbiznezz2 greater is a size.
Outkast more awards
More units sold
More classic albums
More classic bars
More albums sold
More top ten singles.
Stop being delusional.
I wore fatboy shoe strings
I wore adidas
I wore track suits
Run Dmc the pioneers they the foundation but they aint greater.
Yall know MJ greater than James Brown even though James is where everybody get they shit from .
James Brown is the fouundation for Mj
Wick & Choke no Joooooooke you are welcomed to the Texas BBQ cookout here in Houston … I got y’all plane ticket & Hotel whenever you ready… thanks for recognizing Face for his deep lyricism and storytelling.. I love 3000 but Face word play is just as dangerous…I’m sorry b High but Face all day
Honestly, Lyrically 3 stacks got it but if we talking about storytelling Face got that.
Facts
I worked for Alcatel in the late 90s and the are trying to zoom in and out I asked the question ❓ and they answered it like star trek.
Wutang had like 13 members in the group dropping 3 bars each verse. Shit was garbage..talking about karate and killer bee's ...foh
And still goats, goofy
😂
Tell us u never listened to Wu tang without telling us