Should OutKast Be Number 1 on Billboard's Top-20 Rap Groups of All-Time?
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I can’t argue with Outkast being # 1. They incorporated every style and their albums showed evolution without using violence in their lyrics. You can play a OutKast album with your mom in the car 💯
No love for Bone thugs & Harmony ? They literally had THEIR OWN flow
I say this all the time ots crazy how no love is given
They was considered demonic..no surprise..but they are my favorite group..and it was hard to keep up with them if u was just a casual fan..even if u weren’t u still needed the lyrics at times
That's insane
They made the list. Just not top 20 which is crazy
They in my top 5 but should atleast be top 12 for impact and they sold hella records
Three Six Mafia should be higher based on achievements as well as impact. Their music samples and flow has influenced a whole new generation. They won an Oscar.
It's Billboard, though. As a group, who's sold the most AND had the biggest impact. The top five was what it needed to be.....
Fax
Them Nz lost points for worshipping the devil
Bone Thugs at #21 is BLASPHEMY!!! They've had the most influence on today's rap sound than any other group! Everybody harmonizing with their raps now. Fans, we should riot the Billboard and demand they give our boyz some respect!
everyone harmonizing and rapping fast with the double-time flow now, all from Bone
And are the 2nd biggest selling group after OutKast
Billboard has no say in the culture of hip-hop. Who's in those rooms deciding the order. People give these publications too much credit.
Bone and 36 Mafia sound the closest to todays sound in Rap.
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Migos higher than UGK is wild
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
Migos are mainstream superstars .. UGK was never that.
@@joshsmith3222
I didn't realize Black Eyed Peas wasn't on the list. But City Girls were.
🤦♂️
Epmd
And bone is easily better than migos 👈🏾
Outkast and Wu tang being one and two isss a great choice. It could go either way imo. but those guys were peak art
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
Where is bone thugs n harmony at???
@@joshsmith3222 Black Eyed Peas make good hits and vibe music but how many hip hop quotable verses do they have?
@@dawb86 Too Many. Plus they only hip hop group with hit rap songs in English, Spanish, French, and other languages as well.
Plus they been doing this since the 90's, and their 1st 3 albums was just hip hop.
@@joshsmith3222 I can quote more Salt n Pepa verses than I can BEP and trust me bro, I LOVE Black Eyed Peas from the early days to now. Not having them on the list at all is debatable but it's moreso the fact that at their peak their songwriting style would be considered more pop songcraft based than hip hop based that got them omitted from the list...
OutKast is #1 ATLIENS is by far the greatest Hip Hop Album by a group of all time. Arguably the greatest Hip Hop album of all time!!!
Nah....Big Boi can't stand on his own like Andre. You don't see the Outkast symbol everywhere like the Wu
@@TonySummerz You stupid Method Man the only one successful without the group. ODB was trash PERIOD!!!
@@TonySummerz You serious!? Tell us you haven't listened to Big Boi (outside of Outkast) without telling us.
OutKast at #1 is mandatory
I'm looking for a New Orleans group in the top 20...Something like TRU (Master P's camp) or Hot Boy$ or Big Tymers (Birdman's camp). It is UN-deniable the impact New Orleans had on the rap game.
I definitely agree on the Hot Boy$
I would agree, if they didn't separate individual accomplishments. Big Tymers could be, but the others I believe shine cause of the success of the individual careers
The industry don’t respect nothing Louisiana
@@perryharris1647 Wayne?
@@perryharris1647except Wayne
Bone thugs not in the top 10 is crazy to me. And I'm from NYC. They started thug rap when everyone else was trying to be a gangsta.
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
2pac started thug rap and everyone wasn't trying to be gangsta in 94. Goodie mob, fugees, wu tang, tribe, common, outkast, ugk, ect
@@Luke973T no pac didn’t until he went to death row. Bone Thugs was 93 with faces of death.
What's the difference between thug rap and gangsta rap?
THREEE 6 MAFIA should honestly be higher, their sound is still in hip hop if not now more then ever
No Geto Boys in top 10 is hip hop blasphemy. They put the south on the map, gave arguably the greatest hip hop song ever, and has a top 10 rapper of all time in the group.
Facts 💯
I think I agree with that point. Geto boys should have made the list if for no other reason minds playing tricks on me...
Local
Exactly
My biggest issue with this list is City Girls made it (48), but Tha Dogg Pound didn't.
Things like that completely annihilate lists like these from having even the slightest relevance in the culture to me lol....
the bill board lists are made mostly by black ladies hence the city girls being on the list and slat n pepper being ranked #8 on the list remember the had Nikki minaj at 10 over rakim llcoolj and j.cole on the last list, just look at the rap industry today majority of rapper are black girls🤷♂️
Bro Dipset wasn’t even there as well
@@dawb86 Very True 💯
Eightball and MJG should be in there
FACTZ
Big Facts
Facts 💯
Doesn't sound like a group, but I agree
Bone thugs should be higher. They have a big influence on modern rap. The singing rap, triplet flow, fast melodic rap etc..
But don’t billboard base everything on sales? Are there really any rap groups who outsold outkast?
@@itachiuchiha-oh1xoNope
Bone has sold over 16 mil
@@itachiuchiha-oh1xoblack eyed peas and beastie boys sold more. Kast sold a few million more than bone at the most so they are in the same ballpark sales wise and that's just one factor.
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
No Outkast slander will be tolerated.
To me, OutKast and A Tribe Called Quest are my top two hip hop groups of all time.
To me Outkast and Tribe are like the hip hop equivalent of The Beatles & The Rolling Stones.
Think of it this way had it not been for A Tribe Called Quest there would be no Kanye, Pharrell Williams or even OutKast without Tribe. Kanye, Pharrell & Andre 3K have all gone on to state how impactful the music of ATCQ was on their lives.
Regardless the impact and legacy of ATCQ & OutKast is everlasting.
Wu tang clan is nothing to mess with !
S/O to OutKast for the number 1... I'm from Atlanta and to me the list is right. Wu Tang didn't hit In the south, neither did mob deep but we still like em as artists.
Wu Tang made the whole world 5%ers. I don’t think Outkast did half of what Wu did worldwide.
Wu-Tang was huuuuuuuuuuuge in the south!!! I'm from the REAL Atlanta and I remember. They had a Wu-wear store in the West end and they had the number 1 hip hop song on the radio in 97. You don't speak for all of us..
No EPMD or Lox in the top 20? Wow!
Exactly! Megos ain’t better than none of those groups. And where was Public Enemy and gangster? Migos ain’t better than those groups either!
What about Beastie Boys, Smith and Wesson, Onyx, Black Eyed Peas, 2 Live Crew, Ghetto Boys, Arrested Development, Supa Friendz, Kid and Play, Heavy D and The Boyz????
beastie boys was no. 16
The “Clipse” are to high, they should be between 45-50….
OutKast and Wu Tang at number 1 and number 2. I agree with that and I think that list got it right.
No Bone Thugz in the top 20? Thats crazy
Bone is Top 5.
Dawg Pound is Top 10.
Dipset is Top 20, & so is Red & Meth. Y’all trippin!
No Mentions of The Hot Boyz is outrageous!!! They're Definitely top 20 🤔
No
@@TheNyion912yes
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
Hot boys was 25, as a Nola native myself.. to say hot boys only had 2 true albums, that’s a good placement for them
@@joshsmith3222More “Pop”. Personal opinion. Though separate from Will. I. Am and a whole other conversation.
Disappoints me how much people overlook/minimize 8ball and MJG…
Joe that Alabama reference was outta bounds. Montgomery, Al checking in 😂😂😂
I’m Alabama too bro. I feel you. It was outta bounds 😂
@@rahshaddawson4659 salute 🫡
😂Who gonna check him Nick Saban 😂
I’m 37. In highschool it was a group from there (I think) named Dirty. One of my fav songs was Candy Man. Are they still getting to it locally?
@@SunniMerlot Dirty still touring. You know they had a deal with Universal. They just recorded a song with Ghetto Mafia that about to be released.
Where is 🗣️WHODINI ???? Friends!, five minutes of funk, one love, freaks come out at night (with JD as a young B-boy in the video)
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Not on the list
They are GIANTS in the rap game. But get forgotten too much. Maybe because of their fashion. Maybe they came from a lesser Bureau.
If you like good music it finds you . I’m from Georgia i was 15 when Kast first dropped 👽 👑 🐐 ….. but I listened to everything . mobb deep was definitely in my rotation . RIP Prodigy . Free B.G.
Where the hell is Gang Starr
Speaking as someone who was born in Japan, went to Europe for elementary, Georgia and Tennessee in elementary and middle school, hawaii in middle-high, memphis and st louis for the rest of high school... north carolina, texas and california as an adult....... I can say Mobb Deep didn't hit like that all over. I honestly didn't really hear of mobb deep until the storm remix came out. Then as an adult I had to go back and check them out for myself
Like gipp said they always have been platinum and each album sold more than the last
that’s why they’re #1
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
@@joshsmith3222 😂
@@pickitypopsnickitylovejone6558 It's a legit question. It's the Billboard list, not The Source or XXL lol....
Mobb Deep was definitely Poppin outside of New York !!!
Not really in the south tho 🤷🏾♂️
No shade but lox, bone thugs & dogg pound behind beasties & cypress hill is wild
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
Oml
Cypress was dope though. Not better than the ones you named but dope. They had 5 big hits and put Chicano on the map.
That Wu-Tang W is an iconic symbol. Everyone loves it around the world. My kids love it. That alone makes them the greatest.
Bone not being in the top 20 is criminal
You can't argue that top 5. Maybe the placement but all 5 groups definitely deserve to be there👌🏿..As a younger dude Im glad at Run DMC placement 💯
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
@@joshsmith3222 naw you can't I feel. I didn't see the entire 50 group list but I feel you wouldn't put them on for the same reason tlc shouldn't be on there .. Both are more hip hop(which would include more singing aspects) then rap I say..
@@Tredawakandan Yeah, but black eye peas first 3 albums were majority hip hop
@@joshsmith3222 Fergie must be your mom the way you keep crying out black eyed peas in various comment threads
UGK should be higher, they are the most sampled group ever and they introduced Jay Z to the south.
Mobb Deep is sampled heavy as well
Complete cap. The south was bumping Jay z before big pimpin.
@kjo2130 yeah hard knock life he was cemented in the south already
JD introduce JayZ to the south
@@TeeDaHotboi know he didn't 🤦🏾♂️ I'm from Texas and screw had Jay on his tapes in the 90s✌🏾
Outkast #1 HANDS DOWN
Nah I grew up in South Carolina and we grew up learning and reciting Wutang and Mobb Deep the whole state listening to mobb
Grew up on outkast in the 90s
Can't argue top 5 and OutKast is #1 Easy!!!!!
Mobb Deep over Getoboyz!??!!? Getoboyz definitely should've made top 20!!!
Just when I was getting ready to like your comment I saw the Mobb Deep Over Geto Boys no sir
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
Where is Bone Thugs N Harmony is waaay up there, especially with record sales. They should have been like number 9
I'm from North Carolina. And Mobb Deep was hitting in my neighborhood frfr. And you can't be mad at that top 5.
You think because a lot of NYs live in NC? I heard Mobb Deep only do shows in the southeast region like VA, NC, SC, Florida but they never did shows in my region. I live in Texas, which is the gulf coast region (Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma) and they never did shows in Texas until 2014.
East Coast heavy in the top 20 seeing how BTH out sold alot of groups ahead of them plus 3-6 should be way higher add in Goodie, 8ball & MJG
What metrics keep Run the Jewels and Slaughterhouse off this list, I’m looking at City Girls but some of the others as well..
As someone who was actually alive in the Salt and Pepa Era their actual impact was just as big as TLC'S. Both groups have songs that still get spin to this day.
Facts and I'm not being funny but you actually hear more salt N Pepa playing nowadays than TLC.
But TLC is not a rap group. The only one who wrapped in the group was the Lake grade. Lisa left Al Lopez. Therefore that does not make them a rap group.
No Geto Boyz?
Nice list but can’t lie, I hate how slept on Field Mob is.. criminally Underrated!
No LoX? This list invalid
Queens slipped up by sliding TLC in there lol
That’s RNB chief 😅
Exactly! Left Eye was the only one in the group who could & did wrap.
3 6 Mafia should be in the top 10 group they literally sold million and won a Oscar.
No matter what criteria they used, there's no way in hell Bone comes in at #21. They were the hottest group in what most people called the Golder Era of hip hop (Mid 90s). They have classics with Biggie, Pac, and Eazy E. They are one of the top 5 best-selling rap groups of all time. When you listen to rap today, it sounds more like Bone style than any of the other groups in the top 20. So please tell me how in the hell did Bone come in at #21???? Straight BS...
Rap Group 🎤 tiers
🐐🤴- NWA, Wu Tang Clan, Tribe Called Quest, Public Enemy, De La Soul, Mobb Deep, The Lox, Bone Thugs, Outkast, Geto Boys
A1🥇- Run DMC, EPMD, Fugees, The Roots, Dogg Pound, Diplomats, G-Unit, Griselda, UGK, 8Ball/MJG
A2🥈 - Naughty By Nature, Onyx, Slaughterhouse, Compton Most Wanted, Cypress Hill, Goodie Mob, Hot Boyz, Three 6 Mafia, Clipse, Migos
A3🥉- The Pharcyde, Hieroglyphics Brand Nubian, Black Starr, Dead Prez, Little Brother, Arrested Development, Capone-n-Noreaga, Do or Die, Earth Gang
Those top 20 groups had impact on hip hop and culture. Not mad at the top 20.
Bone should be top 10
Yes they should be # 1 💯
I love Outkast, but Wu-Tang should be #1.
@@quecreations3244 na, they haven't done half as much as outkast, but I like Wu-Tang
@@ShadySlim1991 Your comment sounds very shady...slim.
@@quecreations3244 lol nice pond on the shady slim 🤣
I never take Billboard seriously.
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
No way bone thugz come after G-Unit.
My favorite rap group of all time is #1!!
Bone Thugs could've been higher tho
Bone Thugs #1. Outkast #2 2:35
Mobb Deep and The Fugees being below the Migos is wild
Eightball & MJG is my #1
Wu Tang is number 1 for me. Problem is that people always exclude the "solo" albums when they shouldn't. At least definitely not Raekwons Cuban Linx and Ghostfaces Ironman. Cuban Linx was a duo between him and Ghostface(both are featured on the cover) and produced by the Rza. Ironman was a trio with Ghostface, Rae, and Cappadonna(all featured on the cover) and also produced by the Rza. Every single member of the Wu had an appearance or two on both albums. Dont care what anyone says but those are Wu Tang albums. I think people forget just how much of an impact they had during the 90s. People around the world were tattooing the Wu symbol on themselves. They even had their own video game. 👐
Comparing a female RAP group to a female R&B group just further proves that female rappers (no matter how much they've contributed to hip hop) aren't taken seriously. TLC is great, but TLC isn't a rap group. The top 20 list is about RAP GROUPS, not singing groups. Imagine if some idiot(s) compared NWA to Bel Biv Devoe.
It's the disrespect for me. No impact? GTFOH!
Alexa, play 'Get Up' by Salt-N-Pepa.
Rae sremmurd at 47 is crazy
Exactly
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
They Legends with impact. And listen to their freestyle they did in I believe London Radio Station. They were goofy at the start but they mastered their shit and are dope now.
Mel was in a lot of these spaces and a lot fo these videos why does she never get a chance to speak on it
They left off Whodini! Big foul!
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
OutKast and wu-tang clan my favorite and the list is right
Outkast is a duo.
Little brother needs to be way higher up in the list.
UGK being ranked #20 is just wild to me
I’m thinking WuTang especially they have international stardom too
Bone thugs should be top 10 along with 3/6 mafia. Bone far more accomplished than several groups ahead of them
Feel like Pharcyde and Tribe overlooked a little, maybe not top 10 but definitely top 20 .
Bone, 8ball and mjg, and DPG got the shaft
🗣️WHERE’S THA DOGG POUND????!!!!
Maybe on your list. Not this one
Nah I agree bone thugs and harmony had an amazing run and hits for days too definitly top 20
Bone is top 10 for me
I’m not mad at the names either. Agreed about Bone also.
1:39 MOBB DEEP was huge in Toronto. Am not a fan, but their influence cannot be ignored.
Got boys never get their respect
They have the best catalog of any group. Of course they are the best
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
Nappy Roots should have made the list. Watermelon, Chicken, and Gritz was a crazy album. I remember having it on my Walkman and listening to it to and from school?
1 crazy album? Nahhhh
They from Kentucky where I’m from but hell naw
😂 Stop it
Wheres the lox at?
I'm from Texas and Mobb Deep hit here fr
Where is bonethugs
In no particular order
Outkast
Wu Tang Clan
Bone Thugs N Harmony
Mobb Deep
UGK
A Tribe Called Quest
8Ball and MJG
Geto Boys
Goodie Mob
all of these groups has landmark songs, classic albums, influence, longevity and cultural impact. there are some other groups I can name that I enjoy, but they most likely lacked enough material.
No Slaughterhouse?🥺
No Black Eye Peas on the list 😢😞😔
Bone thugs n harmony not being top 20 is CRAZY
Definitely top 5… but g unit and bones thug should be higher
If Mobb Deep that high Hot Boys pose to be on there
As a Southerner and someone who actually rocks with Mobb Deep they didn't hit like that in the south. I can say the same for Wu Tang.
This is no debate! Yes they do!
The list was good, but the numbers didn’t work. G-Unit is not a top 20 group, nor should they be ahead of The Lox. Also, how the hell are the city girls on the list and ahead of M. O. P?
Wat happened to EPMD
Yes .. they should
Wu is number one and Bone should of been higher up
Is that Rory from the old podcast?
How is mobb deep not too 10