I'm south and east because I'm from NC, but wu tang is better. Even outkast said they wanted to be like wu tang in an interview. Skew it on the bar b is my Jame to this day, but raekwon smashed them.
Oan: Nov. 7, 1995 can be said to be the greatest underrated release day ever. Gza's Liquid Swords and Goodie Mob's Soul Food both dropped that day. Groundbreaking, flawless projects that should've went multi platinum at the time. Nuff respect to both crews.
The more I listen to this B High dude, he reveals he don’t know anything about hip-hop. Outkast was dope. Goodie Mob was dope. But the WU TANG CLAN AINT NOTHING TO F*CK WITH
Choke No Joke is funny. Funny thing is, we guys in our 40s really grew up on the best in Hip Hop and Dirty South music. LL, Run DMC, Jay Z, WuTang, Outkast, Goodie Mob, TI, Tupac, Biggie, NWA, Dr Dre, Nas, Lox, Ruff Ryders, Dungeon Family...etc
Both crews are incredible but Wu-Tang's music impacted me to a far greater degree, and continues to resonate in a way The Dungeon Family's never quite did. Both collectives and their legacy are pretty much unrivaled for the most part.
I've traveled entire world as retired Navy. I don't do tours, I get lost in locations and get to know the real. Also I'm from Atlanta and true southerner but I've loved all rap since 1984 in first grade. Wu is more passionately loved worldwide. I'm Dungeon to the core and love the Wu. Wu has a crazy worldwide fan base. They are bigger than most when it comes worldwide. But!!!!....Hey Ya by Dre and Crazy by CeeLo (Gnarls Barkley) are two of the biggest songs ever of any genre. And Bombs Over Baghdad is also huge worldwide.
@@michaelj9277 don't get me wrong they have plenty worldwide fans but nothing is like Wu. Wu has following like an old rock group like the Beatles, etc. Dungeon can be looked at in a rap crew competition but just from traveling I don't think anyone can actually beat Wu in worldwide presence. Closest would probably be Death Row and that's cause Snoop is like Muhammad Ali when he travels. Everyone knows Snoop. 90 year old women know Snoop. True popularity is when u go to places that barely had TVs and folks knew everything about them. That's the Wu
@@michaelj9277 I came here to say the same thing and my mom moved to the south in ‘95 and I absolutely love ‘Kast and Goodie MOB but their big songs are not even close to being hip-hop.
@Michael J are they not rappers or hip hop artists? NOBODY and I mean NOBODY from Wu Tang individually or collectively have a bigger song. Debate over.
@@tl6752 Now OutKast and Goodie Mob ain’t hip hop??? GTFOH…. Atliens, Southernplayalistic, Aquemini, Stankonia, Soul food, and Still standing AINT hip hop albums??? You tripping like muhfucka bro. They are very much hip hop albums and VERY GOOD ONES AT THAT!!
Both of those groups were fire. What I miss about that age is that when you played an album, damn near every song was a banger. And every group had a lane and every individual in the group had a lane and style. For both. Classic Days!!!
Y’all 2 together are entertaining as hell. Y’all should keep this going. This better than “Everyday Struggle” and “First Take”. Chemistry off the chain 😂😂😂
From the south and the Wu was designed to be more individually oriented and a supergroup. The Dungeon is groups within a group and some individual releases. Lyrically they're both impactful because they were on the esoteric level to help you spiritually evolve as well as some street shit.
I'm from da sip and since they think Wu Tang got the dungeon family go against no limit in a verse no- limit vs wu-tang and see the outcome I mean the whole no limit
@@ronniethornton8548 I mean if you listen to Rick Ross, Jay Electronica, Scarface, Luda, Killer Mike, Wayne, and the list goes on all were inspired by listening to East Coast and eventually West coast music. Probably the best lyricist in the south Lil Wayne is directly inspired by Jay Z and Dipset. T. I is directly inspired by Jay Z. Do your homework brah. We all in Black culture inspire one another. Sometimes you gotta just speak for yourself 🤷🏿♂️💯
Did 36 Chambers go platinum? Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - Wikipedia The album continued to sell steadily and was eventually certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America on May 15, 1995. Over time, Enter the Wu-Tang became one of the most highly regarded albums in hip hop.
Bruh, I'm from New York, but in Georgia, he is insane. Wu-Tang is not over Dungen Family in the South where the most FBA'S are mind you. They are not selling in America, and Future is still charting.
I'm not gonna lie and I will give credit where credit is due.but on global mainstream wutang is bigger and well known than dungeon family.its just in the south we got our own favs.the same scenario goes for jay z.we listen to some of his music in the south.but no one really cares for music as much in my part of the region.
Man this is hilarious!! I'm from NYC and they both set their marks respectfully and had moments!! I could never hate on the south, NYC has a lot of love for the south!! Wu Tang Clan and Outkast are in the greatest groups of all time category. Goodie Mob has bangers also. Love them both!!!!
@@GrinchyGreen334I’d say it’s because of the sheer mass of the group. Kinda unfair but two guys can’t beat 6 guys that all know what they doing and if you want to add redman.
@@t-god2439 plus all them artist ain’t got successful solo careers either. Who bumps U God?? Who bumps Masta Killa?? Who bumps Inspectah Deck??? Who bumps Rza?? Who bumps Cappadonna?? Only ones are Meth, Rae, Ghost, and maybe ODB
When he said Killer Mike over Ghostface Killah I damn near fell out my chair 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 B High definitely stood on his stance on reppin the Dungeon Family. I'm from Brooklyn and I love both Wu and Dungeon Family.
Only rapper in the dungeon that gets goat acclaim is 3000. Wu got Method Man, Raekwon, GFK, Inspektah Deck, ODB, Gza and Rza who’s also a top 3-5 producer. Ain’t nobody close to Wu.
@@alyu9337ro I hate to break it to you but everybody don’t know all of them members of the Wu. You can run that argument both ways. Most people I know can tell u every member of DF, but couldn’t name nobody but probably Meth, Ghostface and ODB from the Wu. Stop thinking your opinions are facts because it goes both ways
@@GrinchyGreen334 the wu got solo classics and group classics name one artist not named Ceelo green that has that from the dungeon family? And the entire dungeon are legendary pure fire don't get it twisted I'm just saying let's be real
I thought Choke had a good argument until B High started breaking down the hits. That’s why I don’t compare ARTISTS. I appreciate their gifts!! Both teams are Super Dope🔥🔥🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I was just about to post that. This guy is very biased. Hey Ya and the way you move are definitely bigger than cream. Regardless how he feels they just are. Very good point when Bro said Dirty South is bigger than cream as far as the cultural aspect. It really is.
Lol. It's just barbershop talk. They just having fun. Thoroughly entertaining. Much respect to both men, and both crews. The Wu and the Dungeon are pioneers and legends. I love and respect them both (👐🏿😉😄)
If I listen to anybody, it's gone be somebody who was there. If I listen to somebody who was there it's damn sho gone be somebody directly involved. Gipp Goodie said it, hell Trick Daddy said it on Drink Champs... Dungeon Family wins FLAWLESS VICTORY! 😂😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@jammdiego3545 it's a questionnaire my nigga for best hip hop group all time for the upcoming BET Awards. Same debate and questions were on the Math Hoffa podcast. Y'all niggas be insulting and in emotions over the pettiest things🤦🏿♂️🤔
Im frow NY , i went to high-school with one of ODB'S cousin's, i heard 36 chambers before it was released, So im a die hard Wu fan, but outkast & the dungeon family made some GREAT music in 90's era , i would say that they impacted the south/WORLD, just like WU did for NY/WORLD , and both groups were Original, they didn't wanna sound like everybody else (@ the time)so i have much respect for both groups!! Respectfully, who we like more probably depends on what region of the US we grew up in!!! Both groups are Great so i cant say one is better then the other!!!!
That's a scape goat argument ,with the region talk 🛑 you can't used the word "impact" ,then say ,it's where ever you from 🛑 Oprah know all of wu tang ,I bet she can't name all members from dungeon family! Neither can Baraka Obama THERES LEVELS TO THIS
@@kinggokubeats5008 I love both groups of artists, but that was NOT his consistent point, that’s the direction he took on one of his many point adjustments lol ! If that was the argument I’m with Choke, as in world wide popularity?? Yes, the WU has that Crown
😂Always fun hearing these NYC and any other area in the country debates. By the way Wu wins this one not really a debate. But that being said as an NYC cat we loved Outkast and Dungeon Family. We NYC cats just love good hip hop period no matter where it’s from.
They were out at the same time wtf. What choke is doing is trying to put the a list wu members vs the b list DF and we can’t let that fly. If you going with Rae, ghost, meth and ODB, then we counter with Kast, cede lo green and killer Mike. Clearly DF wins that. GZA, Rebel INS, UGod,cappadonna ( I feel like I’m missing someone) vs khujo, TMo, Gipp, Cool Breeze, Withcdoctor, slim cutta, backbone. More debatable and that edge probably goes to WU ( I’d have to look at it). Wu ain’t got real singers like Sleepy Brown, Joi, Janelle Monae either.
@@HeWhoR3mains I love Dungeon Fam & I'm from the South but Kast is the only group to stand a chance against the members u just named from the Wu. You named 4 of your a-list from the Wu u mean to tell me Cee-Lo & Killer Mike have enough big records to go against the Wu members u named???? 🤔
What needs to be understood is the Dungeon Family wasnt just a gang of rappers. They rapped, sung, poets and PRODUCTION. Organized noise made songs for TLC, Usher etc.
I'm from st. Louis. I listened to da wu and df. Flat out as far as worldwide the wu take the win but df made better music. Shouts to both legendary groups
All I gotta say is Southernplayalisticadilacmusic, Atliens, Aqemini, Soul Food, Still Standing, Speaker Box and Love Below!!!!! The Dungeon Family killing it!
Wu-Tang had a clothing line, video games, fans with their logo tatted on them, group deals and solo deals. Dungeon Family didnt do all that but I got serious respect for Dungeon Family tho
@@vaughnreedjr6592 you don't belong in the convocation son. Now go to your room and think about what you've said and when your ready to apologies then come back
Killa Mike ALONE would destroy the ENTIRE WuTang clan lyrically!!! And you still got CoolBreeze, Ceelo Green, Gipp Goodie, Khujo Goodie 3 Racks, Big Boi, Backbone, TMoe coming off the bench? Boy stop this sh*t ain’t even close…
@@marcus27886 Nigga my name is international Shink nobody ever heard of the dungeon family, Killer Mike, Cool Breeze, goodie mob none of them niggaz throughout the world. Ya'll southen niggaz got to chill lol. We didn't even listen to them niggaz on the east coast. When I lived in mississppi and GA I heard them on the radio I personally still didn't listen to them. I did definitely listen to Outkast when living in GA, but that was all. Back then(90's) that shit wasn't like now where southern music goes pop and travel the world. Southen hip hop stayed in the south. West coast wasn't bumping that shit and neither was the east coast.
@@GrinchyGreen334 Lmao that's to easy. Just know every where I went in the world mid to late 90's the Wu was everywhere shit even in Russia. Nobody never heard of Goodie Mob, Killer Mike, etc., OutKast became popular internationally much later in the 2000's. Goodie Mob was so southern niggaz couldn't even understand them to fuck with them.🤣🤣🤣
I’m from Brooklyn and honestly OutKast is my favorite group in the world. Everyone looked at me crazy back then being the only person in my group listening to them Goodie Mobb is a legendary group, but Wu-Tang is the greatest rap group of all time. I truly enjoyed the conversation good clean fun. I knew every song both sides was talking about
@@MrWARBUCKS24Future was never an actual member of DF anymore than Cappadonna was with Wu Tang. His only claim of fame was being a cousin of Rico Wade
All this debate tells me is our people created some 🔥🔥🔥🔥music. I love it!! ❤
Great comment
I am here for it.
Facts
yeah for true I love both sides here and would love to see a Verzez between these 2 dynasty's but I'm rocking with Wu over Dungeon all day
Fo’ real tho’💯
"Andre somewhere in Tokyo with a wooden double-barrel shotgun camouflaged as a flute!!!" 😂😂😂
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Need The Time Stamp on That Comment Please 😂
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I love how they change the whole argument with each point that’s made …”oh so we talking …now!?” 😂😂😂
You two need to work together more. Y’all are hilarious
I'm over here dying... 😂🤣😭💀
That's my conclusion... but b high definitely took Me back... I forgot about the ceelo early shit
Imagine is wicked was there
The south gon say dungeon the east gon say Wu 🤷🏾♂️
Pretty much..
I'm south and east because I'm from NC, but wu tang is better. Even outkast said they wanted to be like wu tang in an interview. Skew it on the bar b is my Jame to this day, but raekwon smashed them.
The south and mid west and Asia and any where else in the world gonna say wu. Can't stop at east vs east south atl
Nah I’m from jersey but grew up in sc and I would say the wu.
@@donovanbrown7993 sorry to say it bro nc is under the Dixie state line and I grew up particularly in nc that shit the south bro.
WU TANG DEFINITELY WAS ONE OF THE BEST! 9 MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY BEEN MAKING MUSIC SINCE 92/93
OB4CL is an untouched classic.
Agreed. Very much a classic and my favorite Wu Tang album. It still holds up to this day
FrFr
FACTS
Try playing that shid with some chicks lol
A bunch of guys with swords lol U cant play wu in 25
Oan: Nov. 7, 1995 can be said to be the greatest underrated release day ever. Gza's Liquid Swords and Goodie Mob's Soul Food both dropped that day. Groundbreaking, flawless projects that should've went multi platinum at the time. Nuff respect to both crews.
I’m from the A and GZA’s liquid swords is EPIC, CLASSIC, and LEGENDARY!!!
Eastside Kirkwood and that Liquid is the truth!
The more I listen to this B High dude, he reveals he don’t know anything about hip-hop.
Outkast was dope. Goodie Mob was dope. But the WU TANG CLAN AINT NOTHING TO F*CK WITH
Respect
Outkast Future and Ceelo would Body them Catalog For Catalog….
Methodman’s TICAL LP was incredible. That whole album is a mood.
I was thinking about that jawn the other day, 1994/95, "I bring the pain".
😂😂😂 this shit was too funny, the ultimate uncles argument
Uncle on the left drunk as hell doh
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New York vs Atlanta 😂
@@kadiraydukureh7680exactly 😂😂
Choke No Joke is funny. Funny thing is, we guys in our 40s really grew up on the best in Hip Hop and Dirty South music. LL, Run DMC, Jay Z, WuTang, Outkast, Goodie Mob, TI, Tupac, Biggie, NWA, Dr Dre, Nas, Lox, Ruff Ryders, Dungeon Family...etc
This is a whole fact. 💯💯💯
No Limit
Straight Facts..
Variety with many styles
You left out Rakim..that's Supremely foul..
The dungeon family can’t hold a candle to the Wu-Tang Clan
This was a most WORTHY exchange. Salute to both these brothers and both camps debated. Hot spit on this one!
How Choke gonna say he agree with Dame because he was "apart of the team" but then say B High only saying DF because he from the South lol
Facts!!!
All B-Hive had to do was say U-God to some of those questions 😂
Both crews are incredible but Wu-Tang's music impacted me to a far greater degree, and continues to resonate in a way The Dungeon Family's never quite did. Both collectives and their legacy are pretty much unrivaled for the most part.
You do realize future comes from the down south crew right
@@Mikejones-zg6xg And?
@@Mikejones-zg6xg lol what’s your point 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Mike jones but titty boy was solidified by up top niggas tho !
@@mikee3261 nobody from the wu is bigger than future
Facts here in Zambia 🇿🇲 Wu Tang clan was buzzing and still buzzing
So as Outkast
These two need a show together
This episode was brilliant 😂
I've traveled entire world as retired Navy. I don't do tours, I get lost in locations and get to know the real. Also I'm from Atlanta and true southerner but I've loved all rap since 1984 in first grade.
Wu is more passionately loved worldwide. I'm Dungeon to the core and love the Wu. Wu has a crazy worldwide fan base. They are bigger than most when it comes worldwide.
But!!!!....Hey Ya by Dre and Crazy by CeeLo (Gnarls Barkley) are two of the biggest songs ever of any genre. And Bombs Over Baghdad is also huge worldwide.
So basically Dungeon Family’s biggest songs aren’t actually rap songs. So how are they the best rap crew?
@@michaelj9277 don't get me wrong they have plenty worldwide fans but nothing is like Wu. Wu has following like an old rock group like the Beatles, etc. Dungeon can be looked at in a rap crew competition but just from traveling I don't think anyone can actually beat Wu in worldwide presence. Closest would probably be Death Row and that's cause Snoop is like Muhammad Ali when he travels. Everyone knows Snoop. 90 year old women know Snoop. True popularity is when u go to places that barely had TVs and folks knew everything about them. That's the Wu
@@michaelj9277 I came here to say the same thing and my mom moved to the south in ‘95 and I absolutely love ‘Kast and Goodie MOB but their big songs are not even close to being hip-hop.
@Michael J are they not rappers or hip hop artists? NOBODY and I mean NOBODY from Wu Tang individually or collectively have a bigger song. Debate over.
@@tl6752 Now OutKast and Goodie Mob ain’t hip hop??? GTFOH…. Atliens, Southernplayalistic, Aquemini, Stankonia, Soul food, and Still standing AINT hip hop albums??? You tripping like muhfucka bro. They are very much hip hop albums and VERY GOOD ONES AT THAT!!
I love both of these groups, without their contributions, hip-hop wouldn't be the same. Also y'all forgot to mention my boy Witchdoctor.
Both of those groups were fire. What I miss about that age is that when you played an album, damn near every song was a banger. And every group had a lane and every individual in the group had a lane and style. For both. Classic Days!!!
Half of Wu Tang solo albums alone can smoke most groups alone + WU Tang is for children 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂# who is messing w that ?
Facts 💯
This 2 different worlds of hip hop conversation is great 😂😂😂.
Man this was dope. This definitely gives off two cool ass drunk uncles arguing. Only thing missing was some dominoes.
Y’all 2 together are entertaining as hell. Y’all should keep this going. This better than “Everyday Struggle” and “First Take”. Chemistry off the chain 😂😂😂
I swear they are they need a show #downsoutheatcoastcollab🔥
BHigh is Stephen A…Wick is Kendrick…Choke would be Swaggu 😂
I agree
This got to be the most hilarious and on point interview because they both right 😆
From the south and the Wu was designed to be more individually oriented and a supergroup. The Dungeon is groups within a group and some individual releases. Lyrically they're both impactful because they were on the esoteric level to help you spiritually evolve as well as some street shit.
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There is no group as a whole in hip-hop history comparable to wu tang in any kind of way. The dungeon family is a souther thing. Wu tang is global.
@@sunwise5769 facts
I like how b high standing up for the south
I'm from da sip and since they think Wu Tang got the dungeon family go against no limit in a verse no- limit vs wu-tang and see the outcome I mean the whole no limit
@@mr.eabby6016BIG FACTS!!!!!!
@@mr.eabby6016 That's not fair Wu got three rappers in the top 25 of all time.
@@mr.eabby6016..No Limit would get murdered bruh..🤣🤣🤣🤣
6:21 Choke no joke is one of the most funniest dudes ever. Without trying 😂😂😂😂😂
Choke No Joke spitted all facts on this one 😂 Im from NC and WU is worldwide known. B is tripping , he is definitely all south😂
Facts
Niggas have Wu tats
B High is high😂😂
Y’all sound crazy goodie mobb goated 💯
@@blackboi4574 I mess with Goodie Mobb! And Outkast is my favorite HipHop Group. But Goodie doesn’t match up to WU. WU is worldwide.
That's his personal opinion. If fucks with wu-tang but for me it's Outkast and Goodie Mob.
The Dungeon Family are certified Legends with BIG hits, but WU-TANG gives new meaning to cult following. There's no bigger unit ever than the WU
Wu tang is hip hop 😊
People from the South don't listen to East Coast or West Coast Hip Hop like that
@@ronniethornton8548 I mean if you listen to Rick Ross, Jay Electronica, Scarface, Luda, Killer Mike, Wayne, and the list goes on all were inspired by listening to East Coast and eventually West coast music. Probably the best lyricist in the south Lil Wayne is directly inspired by Jay Z and Dipset. T. I is directly inspired by Jay Z. Do your homework brah. We all in Black culture inspire one another. Sometimes you gotta just speak for yourself 🤷🏿♂️💯
@@MIERSSOCIETYTV I'm 40 years old East coast or West Coast don't get played in the south
@@ronniethornton8548 trust me they do
OMFG...Choke need to be ur co host like yesterday...yall are fckn hilarious...😂
Both Groups has impacted the world of hip hop and beyond. Both has classic material.
Facts 💯 I'm happy to be alive during both groups reign
But Wu is better
Agree for the south and east
@Cedric Dawon Outkast ever went on a international tour?
Did 36 Chambers go platinum?
Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - Wikipedia
The album continued to sell steadily and was eventually certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America on May 15, 1995. Over time, Enter the Wu-Tang became one of the most highly regarded albums in hip hop.
More arguments like this please
"Watchu niggas know about da dirty south"- Goodie Mob. Much respect B High, keep holding it down for the south.
B is wrong tho
No he's not
Riding in the south. How many times have you heard anyone bumping wu in their car?
@@billkates2266 NEVER!!!
Nobody listens to wu in the south
Nothing can truly compare to Wu-Tang! Nobody truly did what they did in the game.
Knock it off
Dungeon Family did…
Nobody down south really cared for wu tang clan.😂 I'm only familiar with meth
Bruh, I'm from New York, but in Georgia, he is insane. Wu-Tang is not over Dungen Family in the South where the most FBA'S are mind you. They are not selling in America, and Future is still charting.
I'm not gonna lie and I will give credit where credit is due.but on global mainstream wutang is bigger and well known than dungeon family.its just in the south we got our own favs.the same scenario goes for jay z.we listen to some of his music in the south.but no one really cares for music as much in my part of the region.
We need more conversations like this
They forgot that Future is in the Dungeon Family as well…
He named him at the end
I didn't lol
Afliate
Please bring Choke No Joke back again, thank you 🙏
Facts 💯 and please have wicked on
The Dungeon family is out of this world!…. BUT! The Wu laid the sidewalk down that Dungeon family marched down!
That's a tough one. Coming up I was heavy into both crews. They both have moments where they can't be fucked with
That Cuban Linx album was ONE of a kind💯
Let it be known!!!
*THE PURPLE TAPE*
Purple tape
Ironman
Liquid sword
Supreme clientele
And it still is
These brothers are hilarious together...
Man this is hilarious!! I'm from NYC and they both set their marks respectfully and had moments!! I could never hate on the south, NYC has a lot of love for the south!! Wu Tang Clan and Outkast are in the greatest groups of all time category. Goodie Mob has bangers also. Love them both!!!!
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They swear we hate them!😂😂
WU TANG IS KNOWN ALL AROUND THE WORLD WU 4EVER PERIOD
Their symbol is but not their music
Must be a New Yorker
I know people who couldn’t name 5 Wu tang songs honestly,
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@@GrinchyGreen334 wu tang tours worldwide
I LOVED THIS DIALOGUE 😂
Choke & Gipp need to have this discussion.
That would be epic
Bruh you know how that gone go down 😂
I’m impressed!
The Wu is the biggest group in Hip Hop! Period
What makes them “ bigger” than Kast??? Because the stats say different fam
@@GrinchyGreen334I’d say it’s because of the sheer mass of the group. Kinda unfair but two guys can’t beat 6 guys that all know what they doing and if you want to add redman.
@@t-god2439 DF is more than 2 guys bro, Redman is not Wu Tang and never has been. Redman is Def Squad. You can’t just say Red is Wu Tang
@@t-god2439 plus all them artist ain’t got successful solo careers either. Who bumps U God?? Who bumps Masta Killa?? Who bumps Inspectah Deck??? Who bumps Rza?? Who bumps Cappadonna?? Only ones are Meth, Rae, Ghost, and maybe ODB
@@t-god24399 members of the Wu
The Host is smoking something😂
Shout out to B High for holding it down for the Dungeon Family 💯💪🏾💪🏾
Both parties represented their coast I'm just happy to live and love both groups and coast. Hip hop is my first love
@@jumahbrady670 facts ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
He ain't break for nothing 😂
@@jumahbrady670 well said, Family
When he said Killer Mike over Ghostface Killah I damn near fell out my chair 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 B High definitely stood on his stance on reppin the Dungeon Family. I'm from Brooklyn and I love both Wu and Dungeon Family.
I like the wutang I’m from the Midwest but Dungeon family was on another level of the game, lyrically and production wise
Only rapper in the dungeon that gets goat acclaim is 3000. Wu got Method Man, Raekwon, GFK, Inspektah Deck, ODB, Gza and Rza who’s also a top 3-5 producer. Ain’t nobody close to Wu.
@@mackinshizzaveli4202 right most people can’t even name more than ceelo from the group
@@alyu9337ro I hate to break it to you but everybody don’t know all of them members of the Wu. You can run that argument both ways. Most people I know can tell u every member of DF, but couldn’t name nobody but probably Meth, Ghostface and ODB from the Wu. Stop thinking your opinions are facts because it goes both ways
@@GrinchyGreen334 the wu got solo classics and group classics name one artist not named Ceelo green that has that from the dungeon family? And the entire dungeon are legendary pure fire don't get it twisted I'm just saying let's be real
@@richard4839well big boi is holding it down. And speaker box is a classic idk what they hell the love below was tho
Had to drop out the clouds for this one.
Loving this convo…especially on the 50th anniversary on this thang called hip hop..!!🙌🏽
Hey Ya! is an international hit.
I like the way you move is an international hit.
I thought Choke had a good argument until B High started breaking down the hits. That’s why I don’t compare ARTISTS. I appreciate their gifts!! Both teams are Super Dope🔥🔥🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You two really need a show together, I loved this shit and watched til the very end. Great Job
I'll take a wick and choke show.
Can’t forget Future dungeon family too 😎
Killer Mike also!
I was just about to post that. This guy is very biased. Hey Ya and the way you move are definitely bigger than cream. Regardless how he feels they just are. Very good point when Bro said Dirty South is bigger than cream as far as the cultural aspect. It really is.
Lol. It's just barbershop talk. They just having fun. Thoroughly entertaining. Much respect to both men, and both crews. The Wu and the Dungeon are pioneers and legends. I love and respect them both (👐🏿😉😄)
Y'all heard Gipp, ain't nobody touching the Dungeon Family! ✊🏾
Nobody.
noooooobody!
Bugging out Wu is easily better than goodie mob and the dungeon family as a whole.
@@richard4839 better than outkast ?! Wtf 😂😭😂😂😭😭
If I listen to anybody, it's gone be somebody who was there. If I listen to somebody who was there it's damn sho gone be somebody directly involved. Gipp Goodie said it, hell Trick Daddy said it on Drink Champs... Dungeon Family wins FLAWLESS VICTORY! 😂😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Liberation is one of the best pieces of art ever and if they play it with a live band it’s over
Say it again please🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
I wouldn't even consider that a hip hop song tho
Topic wasn’t about hip hop. Beside, would you rather eat plain rice all day every day or wolf you prefer some chicken and gravy with it??
@@jammdiego3545 it's a questionnaire my nigga for best hip hop group all time for the upcoming BET Awards. Same debate and questions were on the Math Hoffa podcast. Y'all niggas be insulting and in emotions over the pettiest things🤦🏿♂️🤔
Double barrel shotgun disguised as a flute 😂😂😂
How about they just go on tour together and make this epic moment in Hip Hop history.
Im frow NY , i went to high-school with one of ODB'S cousin's, i heard 36 chambers before it was released,
So im a die hard Wu fan, but outkast & the dungeon family made some GREAT music in 90's era , i would say that they impacted the south/WORLD, just like WU did for NY/WORLD , and both groups were Original, they didn't wanna sound like everybody else (@ the time)so i have much respect for both groups!!
Respectfully, who we like more probably depends on what region of the US we grew up in!!! Both groups are Great so i cant say one is better then the other!!!!
Both are squads are legendary period
Likewise!!!!
I couldn’t have said it better myself bro. Perfectly put
You do know WU solos where legendary.
That's a scape goat argument ,with the region talk 🛑 you can't used the word "impact" ,then say ,it's where ever you from 🛑 Oprah know all of wu tang ,I bet she can't name all members from dungeon family! Neither can Baraka Obama THERES LEVELS TO THIS
Dungeon Family is dope but That first Wu Album was crazy!??!
Love this interview..💯They both were all time greats…. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I really wish I was in that room! Every time BHIGH made a point, the The Joke ran and tried to change talking points hahahaha.
Everytime ...lol
To be fair with Choke, His point was Wu is bigger than DF & BHigh was proving his point 🤷🏽♂️
@@kinggokubeats5008 I love both groups of artists, but that was NOT his consistent point, that’s the direction he took on one of his many point adjustments lol ! If that was the argument I’m with Choke, as in world wide popularity?? Yes, the WU has that Crown
Show the W to my 4 year old nephew and he will say Wu-Tang.
That’s because he loves nursery rhymes aka “Method man”
@LowerEastSidePR are you 12 ?
This needs to be weekly show, this is very entertaining 💯
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Wu Tang is the greatest Rap group of all time... that's it , that's all
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🤣 fraid not
I had a good chuckle off this comment 🤣🤣🤣
Worddddsdd
Fasho you right. Bammas loud in the comments though lol
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Choke has a point, more folks know more Wu songs than Goodie Mobb!
Excellent! I' m glad they wasn't tralking over each other like most other podcasts do. I love this episode! Fiyah!!
Facts 💯 2 grown men talking
This conversation is very entertaining. 😂
😂Always fun hearing these NYC and any other area in the country debates. By the way Wu wins this one not really a debate. But that being said as an NYC cat we loved Outkast and Dungeon Family. We NYC cats just love good hip hop period no matter where it’s from.
Wu and Goodie are incomparable, two different time frames. Lol😁 B and Choke are reppin' their hood's.
They were out at the same time wtf. What choke is doing is trying to put the a list wu members vs the b list DF and we can’t let that fly.
If you going with Rae, ghost, meth and ODB, then we counter with Kast, cede lo green and killer Mike. Clearly DF wins that.
GZA, Rebel INS, UGod,cappadonna ( I feel like I’m missing someone) vs khujo, TMo, Gipp, Cool Breeze, Withcdoctor, slim cutta, backbone. More debatable and that edge probably goes to WU ( I’d have to look at it).
Wu ain’t got real singers like Sleepy Brown, Joi, Janelle Monae either.
@@HeWhoR3mains I love Dungeon Fam & I'm from the South but Kast is the only group to stand a chance against the members u just named from the Wu. You named 4 of your a-list from the Wu u mean to tell me Cee-Lo & Killer Mike have enough big records to go against the Wu members u named???? 🤔
I rock wit both these Brothers but B High gave Choke a run for his money …. Salute to them both ✊🏿
Ahhh NO HE DIDNT🤣TOOK THAT L
Never even heard the Ceelo songs he referenced lol 🤷
🫡 to both groups, they made hip-hop history
Yes 🙌🏿
Dem NY niggas be tripn.... Dem NY hits homie!.... I cnt watch no mo B High!... No mo NY niggas!
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WU BIGGER ANYDAY
@@rickyjames4228 for their logo, not for their music
I'm from Atlanta and I love when the OG's shit talk, these young cats would be fighting
Facts 💯 love it when 2 grown men can have a conversation/ argument without fighting
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Great respect in this debate.
I love this energy
Y’all gotta run this back 😂😂 hilarious!
What needs to be understood is the Dungeon Family wasnt just a gang of rappers. They rapped, sung, poets and PRODUCTION. Organized noise made songs for TLC, Usher etc.
I'm from st. Louis. I listened to da wu and df. Flat out as far as worldwide the wu take the win but df made better music. Shouts to both legendary groups
I love outkast, sleepy brown, and cee lo but Wu tang, NWA and Death Row were game changers!!!!
All I gotta say is Southernplayalisticadilacmusic, Atliens, Aqemini, Soul Food, Still Standing, Speaker Box and Love Below!!!!! The Dungeon Family killing it!
Apparently Andre's not allowed to retire
This is hilarious 😂 Wu has two classic group albums. OutKast has 5 but Wu has classic solo albums.
All of Outcast Albums are not classic to everyone but the Wu 2 are Universally🗣💯📸📸📸🤯
Wu-Tang had a clothing line, video games, fans with their logo tatted on them, group deals and solo deals. Dungeon Family didnt do all that but I got serious respect for Dungeon Family tho
@Onion 77 wu don't have no classics albums
@@vaughnreedjr6592 🤣🤣🤣R U DUMB!!!🤯
@@vaughnreedjr6592 you don't belong in the convocation son. Now go to your room and think about what you've said and when your ready to apologies then come back
Killa Mike ALONE would destroy the ENTIRE WuTang clan lyrically!!! And you still got CoolBreeze, Ceelo Green, Gipp Goodie, Khujo Goodie 3 Racks, Big Boi, Backbone, TMoe coming off the bench? Boy stop this sh*t ain’t even close…
DUNGEON FAMILY IS NOT BIGGER THAN THE WU TANG WORLD WIDE! I LIVED IN GERMANY 4 YEARS AND WAS IN CHINA LAST YEAR THEY STILL ROCKING WU TANG SHIRTS!
Well yeah their theme was asian based so of course they are truly loved their sir and germany loves everything hip hop
Name 5 Wu tang albums and the best song off each one then since you’re a die hard fan?? Y’all love the symbol😂😂😂
@@marcus27886 Nigga my name is international Shink nobody ever heard of the dungeon family, Killer Mike, Cool Breeze, goodie mob none of them niggaz throughout the world. Ya'll southen niggaz got to chill lol. We didn't even listen to them niggaz on the east coast. When I lived in mississppi and GA I heard them on the radio I personally still didn't listen to them. I did definitely listen to Outkast when living in GA, but that was all. Back then(90's) that shit wasn't like now where southern music goes pop and travel the world. Southen hip hop stayed in the south. West coast wasn't bumping that shit and neither was the east coast.
@@GrinchyGreen334 Lmao that's to easy. Just know every where I went in the world mid to late 90's the Wu was everywhere shit even in Russia. Nobody never heard of Goodie Mob, Killer Mike, etc., OutKast became popular internationally much later in the 2000's. Goodie Mob was so southern niggaz couldn't even understand them to fuck with them.🤣🤣🤣
@@GrinchyGreen334 name 5 goodie mob albums and name the andre 3k solo classic. you see it goes both ways
Coolbreeze has one of the greatest albums of all time!! No cussing too!!
Very slept on album!!!! Witchdoctor album as well
The coolest cutta at camp, better listen to your corner and watch for the hook.
Beats was some of the dopest I ever heard
Good album good stories but they got no bars n swag
Wu Tang ❤
Wu tang forever went 8x platinum let’s not forget and every single member has a gold solo album from inspectah deck to U-god
Lies.
U god ain't got no gold album.
Cappadon pillage probably didn't go gold but it was 🔥
@@marvin469 the pillage went gold , Cappas ying yang didn't though
@@joshuakithyoma9575good . that pillage should've went platinum
it take 10 to go diamond. Outkast hit that
WUTANG IS MY FAVORITE GROUP, BUT-- OUTKAST IS UNTOUCHABLE ALONE
They way u move don’t touch CREAM LOL
I’m from Brooklyn and honestly OutKast is my favorite group in the world. Everyone looked at me crazy back then being the only person in my group listening to them Goodie Mobb is a legendary group, but Wu-Tang is the greatest rap group of all time. I truly enjoyed the conversation good clean fun. I knew every song both sides was talking about
Facts but we fair I’m from ny most can’t name nobody n the dungeon family outside the big 3
Dungeon Family = Goodie Mob Outkast and Future
@@THEREALMOEMONEY it’s a bunch of other niggas but those are the main 3 and ppl don’t know Future come from them
@@MrWARBUCKS24Future was never an actual member of DF anymore than Cappadonna was with Wu Tang. His only claim of fame was being a cousin of Rico Wade
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Facts!
" Andre in Tokyo with a double barrel shotgun posing as a flute" lmaooooo
They need a podcast just on debates like this.
Wu all day. Love the Dungeon family to the fullest