@@samg873 I doubt it, because when he voiced it here, they were upset, but they listened and agreed. He was probably afraid to tell them before this, so they might not have known.
When she said she had her second child to save her first and then explained how they immediately began taking from him…his cord blood, organs. The lack of concern for her youngest. This is evil. Some people should never be parents.
The sad thing is this actually exists in the real world, and it is completely legal. These donor babies get brought up being brain washed with "don't you wanna help your sister/brother? They are hurting and they need you". I don't know how any of these people can look their child in the eye and tell them they love them when they were literally lab grown for spare parts to save a child the parents had with the sole intention of just having a child.
They did this storyline in another episode of the savior sibling & the mom had to have heart surgery. The baby died in surgery & the mom cried feeling like she failed her daughter. Savior siblings, I don't care if it's legal, it's not right & there should be a law. No matter the child's age, if they can speak for themselves & they refuse, they shouldn't be pushed & it should qualify as abuse if the parents try to coerce rather manipulate
@@toristraube9845 yep, I was one of them. They make you feel guilty and make it seem like it’s your fault if something happens to them. It’s awful wouldn’t wish it on anybody.
I have no issues with cord blood since that comes from the umbilical cord and thus causes no harm to the baby. I'm with you on everything else though, especially the kidney since that is irreplicable and affects one's quality of life. Particularly since some doctors think it is best to avoid contact sports like football, boxing, hockey, soccer, martial arts, or wrestling. He was forced to give up hockey because of his kidney donation.
@@toristraube9845 ugh I never lived through that but dang that's the same way my gram guilted my mom to come to her house everyday and make mom make us stay with her EVEN FOR A DAY WITHOUT PARENTS STAYING THE NIGHT heck she told mom she could just drop us off while mom went to a grocery store 5 minutes away 😒😒 I started putting my foot down more and more each year as dad said understandable if we lived in a bad neighborhood but no we lived in a family neighborhood literally 95% of the ppl we are related to and could call someone if there was trouble my uncle's had their guns and nearest one 2 minutes away probably faster in emergency and we knew the numbers if there was an emergency AT 18 SHE STILL MADE ME SLEEP AT HER HOUSE WHILE IN SCHOOL AT THAT AGE I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN FORCED and I believe she was the one who kept calling emergency services when she knew our parents weren't home cause mighty suspicious she kept bringing up after each call why you would stay there when you could come stay with me 🤨🤨🤨 she had high blood pressure and her stupid worrying of us always made her think she was having a heart attack but she never forced her other children to come help nope instead it was always mom literally they were treated like they were dying when it was sinus or allergies but God forbid when mom had the flu oh just put some medicine in you you will be alright and come help me 😡😡
I love how you can literally see the doctor’s face silently hating this parents the moment he heard why Gavin was conceived. He knows they are abusive parents and can’t do anything.
This breaks my heart. My oldest sister had cancer when we were younger. It would've broken her to know that any of us suffered like that just to save her and I feel the same way if that were me as the cancer patient.
I think that would be the most unrealistic part of the plot. Sick Kids usually don't really think of anyone but themselves as they are raised to be very self involved and self centered because of their medical condition. In fact, most enjoy the fact that the healthy child is neglected. And the parents continue to keep doing in order to appease the sick one's many demands.
Actually, a lot of sick kids do think of their younger siblings, family and friends. My younger sister’s illnesses lead us to frequent appointments at out state’s major children’s hospital (she was an out patient and didn’t need to be there all the time because it was less severe than a lot of the other kids there). This lead us to interacting with a lot of the kids and families over there. Most of those kids are some of the most selfless kids you will ever meet.
@@KaiTheTyrant Selfless meaning that despite their illness, they would be willing to sacrifice (whatever) to ensure that their other family members are treated well and fairly? They stand up and advocate for the neglected healthy ones?
So, when the boy with cancer dies, the parents are going to forget about the younger one… He’s only there as a living donor, and that’s all they see him as. How sick can you be?!
That's disgusting. They knew their kid was going to die young anyway. All they did was prolong thier eldest child's suffering while creating another child to suffer and be spare parts. Horrible people.
It still dosent make diners to me instead of having one son dying young you now have 2 one who’s being used as an organ farm living a restrained life all while the other has to have their suffering prolonged with the added guilt of knowing their needs are hurting the other
I have a friend in Japan. She was abandoned by her parents when she was born, raised by her aunt. Decades later they come back into her life, just after she bought a nice house an was doing great. They demanded she give their son, her home. She of course declined. So the parents took her to court. And now because of Japans dumb child parent laws, she has to tale care of her parents for the rest of thier lives. These parents, who left her because they wanted a Son, now live in her house, and she pays the bills. These parents reminded me of those ones.
Those are japanese laws. If your friend doesn't have a family, maybe its time she go globetrotting. Maybe help her get a green card or citizenship in your country, she can say shes going on a little trip for a week or so, and then she buys a one-way ticket.
Yes, it’s a story from China. Japan doesn’t have such laws, girls aren’t seen as lesser there the way they are in Chinese countryside especially (because the daughter has to leave for the husband’s parental household and look after them, so her own parents have no one, which is why boys are valued over girls).
You're absolutely right. They severely abused and neglected their younger son, and thus have lost the right to be his "parents". And even if he wasn't taken away, can you imagine living with them after the older brother died? Knowing that they only had you so you could keep your sibling alive and not even loving you enough to consider your autonomy? It's already driven a wedge between them, and unless those "parents" make some EXTREME changes, they're not going to lose just one son, but both.
Have you seen the movie My Sister’s Keeper (starring Abigail Breslin)? Abigail plays a young girl who fights to become medically emancipated from her parents, because she was conceived to donate to her sickly older sister. She’s had enough & wants autonomy of her body, her sick older sister encourages her to fight for it. The movie is based on a book, the book is based on true events.
If he'll even survive past his parents. It's more likely he'll die before the parents. How many things has he given up to prolong his brother's life? He wouldn't have the best quality of life.
Just because your the parents doesn't mean you can make all the decisions without talking and listening to your kids. The child with cancer needs to be heard and his brother deserves a full life.
@Angel Pascual children are not property what are you on? Legally, no human being in the states is or can be property. Kids have a will and autonomy that should be acknowledged. If they were parents' property would there be laws to protect them against domestic abuse? There was no reason for you to phrase it that way.
@Angel Pascual children are not property. Maybe in China or a country that has slavery still in place , but children are the most protected group of people in the u.s.
This is so sad, Gavin clearly isn't just the Saviour Child, he's also the Glass Child. I couldn't imagine being created for the sole purpose of prolonging my very ill siblings already short lifespan. And being gaslighted and manipulated by the parents because the only child they truly care about and love is Thomas.
if they didnt care about Thomas, why did they create an entire other human being IN A DISH just for spare parts to prolong Thomas's own already short life? If anything they loved him too much, as there were multiple times when the parents refused to listen to Thomas when he tried to talk them out of using Gavin.@@courtr1588
Unfortunately, since the savior sibling procedure is legal, there is nothing CPS can do about it. Because if they did, the parents could sue them for 'trampling on their parenting rights' as, until a certain age, parents can make medical choices for their child. The only way they could step in is if Gavin was saying no and asked the hospital staff for help because his parents tried to force him to. Or if the hospital staff had solid evidence that the parents were being abusive to Gavin. IE they caught the parents slapping or yelling at Gavin for not wanting to donate.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl what they are doing is emotional abuse - honestly, they deserve to loose both children, I mean, what if his body gives up while on the operating table - they would deserve that watching both of their kids die because they couldn't accept facts
My friend was "spare parts" for his Sister. He wanted to go to Paris and see the Van Gogh paintings and the Musee d'Orsay. He wanted to see the Matterhorn and live in Switzerland - He never got that choice, he died on the operating table. His parents didnt blink an eye - Which is often the case in these situations. He was so loved, by everyone in our school, he died three weeks after prom and it was discovered after death that he had Cancer too. I can't look his Mother in the eyes anymore. I miss you Andy... Every day
I don’t think I could ever look at my parents the same if I was only created to be a donation vessel for my older sibling. I’m only here to save your life, and I have to miss out on parts of mine too.
It hurts to see someone who is terminally ill who is forced emotionally / mentally to continue fighting for their lives when all they want is just to rest in peace. The burden and pain they must feel.
Seriously. It is so inhumane and selfish to force people to keep living because you don't want to face grief. People should be able to let go if they really truly want to. 💔
@@sadezem991 sometimes it is because you love your family so much that you don’t want to leave them or cause them more pain . I can understand this character who has a terminal illness because I too have late stage cancer .My worry about what is going to happen to my kids are the reasons I still want to fight even if I am so tired and in pain. Life is so unfair but that’s life.
It amazes me that something like this is legal. It would make more sense for the doctors to call authorities if someone asked them to create a living organ farm because thats what that little kid is !!! Pressuring a little kid to give up his organs and other body parts is just disgusting.
Actually it is illegal, here in Europe and it should be illegal in America to, but somehow the America government does not get that into there heads. And that really sad, 'cause that little kid is not loved by his parents even a bit. He is only getting used by them
If the only reason you have a kid is so you or another can have extra organs/marrow, take care of you or another or to replace another kid. You are a bad parent. Period. The fact that it is legal to do so at all is complete and utter BS.
And then to gaslight and guilt trip your child to keep him a willing donor... It infuriates me to see the head games parents will play to get what they want. They don't care about him, they only care about the first born.
@@lisag5002 doesn't make it right. And it would be like me genetically modifying my baby to insure my child will get a heart before thirty. It's wrong and disgusting.
Lisa G: It's true, none of us know exactly how we'll react or feel until we find ourselves in an unexpected situation. BUT: this was planned in advance, by having a baby in vitro specifically to be a donor for his brother. Each child born deserves to be loved just for who they are, not for what they can do for a sibling. To me, that whole premise is morally and ethically wrong.
Choi and April should have called Child Protective Services the second those parents said that Gavin was conceived just to be a donor for his brother and had already donated a kidney. There should be a third party there to ensure Gavin's best interests.
It's not against the law to conceive a child just to be a donor. Until the child is aware and can talk for themselves the parents are in control and what they say goes. Which is also not illegal.
Realistically, the parents have the consent and the kids are deluded into thinking the situation is fair. The younger brother thinks he’s helping his brother and will say as much. CPS literally can’t do anything in the situation since they’d be overriding both the wishes of the parents and child, it’s not the government’s job to override a person’s medical wishes, even in situation like these.
The parents do have the right to make medical decisions for their child but in a situation like this CPS or social services could petition a judge to appoint an advocate for Gavin to ensure his parents aren't making decisions that would be detrimental to him for the sake of his brother.
I was conceived so my mother could have the "dolly-baby" she'd always dreamed of. She was obsessed with dolls and my assignment at birth was to BE her doll. Unfortunately, I refused to be the placid, passive toy she wanted and she never quite forgave me for that sin. Our relationship was never warm -- she mothered by force and dominance and I grew up defying her and running away every chance I got! I suspect she was a high-functioning autistic who distrusted pleasure. Life was a "chore" she had to endure and her only safety was in following rules to the letter. The poor woman brought unnecessary misery into her life and couldn't understand why others refused to live in a way that made her happy.
@@krisaaron5771 that doesn't sound like autism. It sounds more like narcissistic ritual habits. Narcs often cope with stress by having strict rituals and can behave almost robotically. I say this because I had a cold relationship with my mother as well and it parallels with what you described. I rebelled, too.
Parents who do this should be in prison for life. They have a child just to kill the new child off to save the eldest. It’s disgusting. At some point there needs to be a law banning parents from just having kids to be “saviors” and spare parts.
The law needs to ban IVF. The IVF process gives parents and doctors god-like power over life and death. Embryos are created at will, the "good" ones implanted and expected to perform, and the "weak" ones discarded. This is the root of the problem. A child should come into the world received as an unmerited gift.
If you think about it, they are slowly killing him. There's always a risk you might die during surgery so they're literally gambling with his life. If you think about it, is he really that healthy if he only has one kidney? Sure he can live with only one kidney but what happens when the other one possibly gets infected or something and he has to get it removed when he's older? He'll either have to have dialysis for the rest of his life or he might die. What if his older brother needs another kidney?
@@thepolarianempire and it wasn't just one doctor who heard it either so there was a witness. They even witnessed the panic attack the little brother had too.
Parents to the younger sibling: we are so disappointed in you that you won't donate to your brother. Parents to the older sibling: you could never disappoint us.
@shihoblade its not that simple they would usually require that people undergo therapy and very, very few doctors would do a kidney transpant from a child with dubious consent
Matters of this nature are extremely loosely regulated and there is no set standard for how to deal with a case. Another example of this is the film My Sisters Keeper, where the Savior Sibling fights her lawyer mom in court and the fact the mom can, in the same breath, say the child ‘consented to organ donation’ and ‘doesn’t understand what she’s doing’ says everything.
It’s heartbreaking knowing that some people are desperate enough to conceive a child just so that they can be used as spare parts. It’s child abuse to a whole new level.
Agreed they basically gave birth birth to him thinking he’s a tool not a person they thought about they’re first son living like the second ones had to stop his life and wants just for him I can understand not wanting to lose a kid but hurting the other just making them both suffer is worse then the other option
Exactly! That is why I hate when people have kids to save a marriage and the term rainbow baby because it makes it seem that they are born to be a do over baby. It takes the individuality from the new baby and emphasizes that the new baby probably wouldn't exist had the previous baby not died.
Clearly the parents never listened to either kid, the older child doesn’t want his brother to go through pain for him and doesn’t want to go through the pain himself, his younger brother doesn’t want to donate but he also doesn’t want his older brother to be in pain or die. This is heartbreaking for both boys.
Using a child for parts for another child should be child abuse and child neglect. Its just really morally compromising. I know cancer sucks and being a helpless bystander is devasting, but to emotionally and mentally manipulate a CHILD to sacrifice his own healthy organs and etc is just down right digusting on every level imaginable. This episode is SO sad. Not just for the young healthy child, but also the sick child as well.
So glad Thomas spoke up for Gavin & told his parents about what he really felt. Parents are always sadly in denial when their child finally refuses treatment & they always know more than they're given credit for
Poor Gavin. He is just a child and his parents treat him like a lab rat, whose only purpose in their family is to keep his brother healthy. They don't stop to consider GAVIN'S wants or needs....like going to school or playing hockey with his friends. I DO agree with the doctors that his parents pressured him to give his brother bone marrow. And probably the kidney and the blood, as well.
Agree about the kidney but cord blood is blood taken from the umbilical cord when the kid is born, they’re not sticking a needle into a baby, so they didn’t need to pressure him into donating that.
Cord blood is taken right after delivery so they didn't actually pressure him at all for that. However there is a not insubstantial amount of research to show that the cord blood really belongs in the newborn it's not something that should be thrown away it's not something that should be banked for later so they probably did cause some harm to a newborn as a result. And they certainly did a whole lot of harm and the kidney and then just going oh yeah he'll donate bone marrow. Like I know we joke about extra organs but they're not really extra.
They're not even considering the older brother's wants and needs. Their only concern is keeping him alive regardless of how miserable that life is to spare themselves the pain of losing a child.
I was a cancer patient. I would NEVER accept things from my brothers if my parents forced them. Thankfully, all I needed was chemo and meds, but this is horrifying. (Although, I wouldn't hesitate to donate to my brothers if it came down to it. No one would have to force me.)
Same I was also a cancer patient and I would never accept organs from my brother if he was forced by our dad, though I wanted to give up half way through the treatments as I was tired of fighting!
It's sad how parents have a second child ONLY for the sole purpose of saving their first born's life. As though their second child is nothing but a cure and not their child too.
In case anyone is interested, there is a book about this very topic. It's called My Sister's Keeper, where a family has a child just to be "The Perfect Match" for their other daughter with cancer. It's written from the donor child's perspective, and she ends up suing her parents for medical emancipation. This video reminded me of it.
I feel like everyone is bringing the 📖/📽️ in the comment section. Heck I'm 3min in and I thought about it, only seen it once and haven't seen it in years...such a sad ending
The trouble with the film and this episode, is that it glosses over the abuse being carried out by the parents - it's the 'brave' cancer child who wants to die/no longer wanting treatment that stops the abuse, not legal/medical intervention!!!
It does happen in real life. In some cases, the parents focus on the younger sibling, forcing them to be like the one who died. I saw a case where a child was forced to even due their hair.
Because of people with no sense of morality at all. I’m a grey area when it comes to morality, but even to use a child for *that* is utterly sickening to me.
The fact that they said that he could never disappoint them because they value his option to choose whether or not he wants to deal with rhis pain but they were disappointed and terrible to their youngest not caring how much pain hes in
Yeah, heartwarming ending....until you fast forward a year. The older brother has passed, the younger brother is no longer "necessary," and suddenly everything the younger brother does is "wrong, bad, not how your bother would do it!! No, you can't celebrate your birthday! We need to MOURN!! No, you can't go to college, WE need you!! No, you can't have a wedding, we need to have a MEMORIAL!!" Don't HAVE one kid to SAVE another! Because you've already picked favorites before the second kid is even born! "These are our kids! This is Suzy and this is Donor #1. Donor #1 can't do sports, theater, or hang out with friends because those might damage SUZY'S organs!"
Sad but true. I feel for both brothers. I feel for the younger brother, because when he is old enough to understand well why he was conceived, he will be in a lot of pain. Plus his parent’s will probably resent him and for the older brother’s death. It’s sad but the likely outcome.
I understand what it's like to have to give up certain things because your older sibling is sick. It was similar circumstances, my older my sister had leukemia herself but my parents didn't have us donate our bone marrow. I had to give up soccer, dance class, and Girl Scouts for awhile.
I love the little savior sibling he's so kind shame on his parents that don't appreciate such a sweet child. He was terrified but still wanted to help her brother, and the Older brother has way more empathy and kindness than the parents together he is a angel as well.
That is so disgusting to do that to a child. Knowing he was only made to save his brother and that the pain and suffering HE had to go through didn't matter nearly as much as the brother. He is going to HATE his parents, and rightfully so. Don't EVER do this to a child. Monsters.
As a cancer patient when I was younger I understand the pain of not wanting to do it anymore 😭 if I hadn’t been seventeen at the time I wouldn’t of token any of the medication and woulda choose to just die in my home at peace
I understand that the parents only wanted to save Thomas, but no parent should use a second-born child as a savior. This reminds me of “My Sister’s Keeper”. The boys have my deepest sympathy.
I'm really sorry for the 2born, I know panic attacks. What he's describing sounds awful! But hearing the elder boy saying: "I'm in pain. And my little brother is suffering, too. I don't want to fight anymore. I'm ready to go." I immediately started crying. How much pain that kid must have been through to tell them all that all he wants now is to die... I can't. Unbearable... Such a young soul 😭 so sad.
It's so unbelievably selfish to bring a child into the world just to be spare parts. Shouldn't be legal. It should be charged as child abuse. Absolutely disgusting.
it might surprise you but apparently it is legal for a child to be an organ donor in some states but even then usurpingly those things require permission from the child itself
Another episode that reminds me of My Sister’s Keeper; I loved that movie. The younger brother should really see a therapist because growing up knowing that you were made to be parts for your brother can not be good for your mental state. These parents really need to look at themselves; I understand wanting to do everything you can for your child to live, but your slowly killing your other child by doing so. You never know if a surgery will go bad especially when it concerns transplants.
@@mariahclaar7915 I've read the book and while it was good, I hated the ending (especially in comparison to the movie). The ending in the book made it seem/feel, to me, that all the actions that Anna and Kate did were for nothing as well as the message that the parents shouldn't have used Anna like that and should've listened more to what she wanted. Anna dying just came out of nowhere and it seemed like her life didn't mean anything. She was born for her sister and, in the end, she fulfilled that purpose. Just a personal opinion.
From the way the little boy is talking about it he had anesthesia awareness... That's such a scary thing. I'm fortunate to never have experienced it but I've heard survivors stories and it's terrifying. But oh my gosh.. the parents are evil. Having a child for a parts department is messed up. And the big brother is so brave to say that he was ready to go. I know he loves his baby brother. I can't imagine how guilty he felt knowing how his brother was being treated because of him. The parents are cruel people. I hope the two brothers at least have a good relationship together
@@samcochran8203 no! It's very much a real thing. Sometimes doctors just dismiss it when you wake up from surgery or whatever thinking you just imagined it or something. A couple of years ago when my mom had to have surgery on her foot I told her that if she woke up or felt anything after being knocked out to tell me. Luckily she didn't but I was always curious about how often it might actually be happening to people
@@samcochran8203 I got interested in it when I found out I might have to have gallbladder surgery. I learned about it from a Shane Dawson video where he talked to a woman who experienced it and developed PTSD from it
the kid should have a choice of his own! Not the parents to treat him like a organ donor when he's got a life, feel bad for both the siblings who are in pain.
My baby sister once asked me at 14 if she could donate one of her corneas to me so I could regain at least some of my vision. I was incredibly touched but even at 15 and without a life-threatening condition I knew to refuse because she shouldn’t have to do something so life altering for because of my difficult circumstances. A child should never, ever be the first option for organ donation without exhausting all other possibilities. This is disturbing and down right disgusting, those parents should be arrested for violation of the Geneva convention. No human being should be treated as a farm guinea pig.
God, the manipulation with these so-called "parents". It honestly makes me sick that things like this happen; they think that they're doing the right thing but the only thing that they're doing is killing both of their kids slowly. The older brother knows that he's sick and dying, and is also having to (literally) live with the fact his younger brother is suffering horribly for him; while the younger brother is in constant inner turmoil because he's so scared and is constantly being gaslighted by his parents to be a donor for his brother while his own life and rights are being shoved aside. Not to even mention how freaking YOUNG Gavin is, Chirst. There's a reason why minors are rarely donors for these sort of things. In my eyes, these parents are no different than the ones who beat, neglect, and sell their children for their own benefit. They only care about themselves and their needs/feelings, no one elses. If I were ever in the position of the older brother, and my sister the younger, I would choose to die or receive transplants from a appropriate donor, even if it meant it would be too late. What would be the point of living if someone I loved was suffering because of it?
@@maxmccullough8548 They should be allowed to though, at least in situations like this. A child should have the right to decide what is done to their body.
After learning about 'designer' babies, and knowing what they are designed for, I thought it was truly disgusting. Much as the thought of one of my kids dying hurts, I could never hurt one to save the other in this way.
I hate it when someone says "I know how this sounds but..." It's essentially saying "I know it's wrong but I actually don't care and need you to get over it and not call me out on anything I'm doing that's seriously messed up."
What makes this even worse is that the parents at any point could have donated or tried to donate marrow, blood, or organs to their child. They could have also asked around among adult family members to volunteer. But instead they decided to have another child just to be used as “spare parts”. Absolutely disgusting.
In an episode of CSI they had a case where a little girl went missing. As they investigated they found out that the older brother had a list of medical problems that required donations. So the family would use the daughter as spare parts. At the end it was revealed that the brother not only took her but also killed her because he felt his parents would always use her to keep him alive despite the fact he didn't want them too.
I saw that. He asked them to swear they wouldn't do it anymore, and they did, but the moment it got worse they found an excuse to break their word. Now their younger daughter is dead, the older one is in prison, and their son will soon be dead. All their children gone, thanks to their own selfish refusal to let one go.
Problem is, if the donor sibling doesn't donate, the parents will just hate him forever. Where does he go then? Where will they send him? Foster care? The street? What's worse?
Somewhere away from his parents. There’s no telling whether or not the transplant will even work or for how long the sibling will life afterwards. Now they made a healthy child unhealthy for a child that wasn’t even going to live long.
It’s terrifying though that after the sick brother passes, these vile parents will be left with the brother who was born to donate his parts. I do hope regardless he ends up with a caring relative or foster family that does see him as his own person
It’s sad how this is not an exaggeration. I get that these parents want to save their child but they put so much focus on what they want instead listening to what their child wants.
Can't imagine what knowing that the only reason you exist is to be spare parts for someone else could do to a person. To know you weren't wanted so much as required
The fact that neither parent bothered to sit with the younger kid while being assesed screams neglect. The way they look at him... they're like vultures stripping him down bot by bit. Phenomenal acting all round.
i know a boy who was born solely for his bone marrow to donate to his older brother. then his parents always wanted a little girl, and the next baby they had was a girl.... so he's basically the ultimate middle child.
@@doubleflores8350 i only hung out with him for a day years ago, he was probably around 6 and i was around 11- but good lord the amount of favoritism and like.... i don't know, just the amount he was ignored was insane. i'm a middle child and it was honestly one of those moments that you think "huh, i knew it could be worse, but not THAT much worse."
It's so sad because I know a similar situation to this in real life. It was horrendous. And now that the older brother passed from cancer, the little one is still living on trying to live up to his parents standards without his big brother. 😢
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This situation is the perfect embodiment of the phrase : "Just becuase it's legal it doesn't mean is right"
Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should
@@xxiSHTAr9000x Just because you could, doesn't mean you would
@@undeadknight01 or should
personally I don't think it should be legal
Pressuring someone into organ donation IS very illegal…-_-
"i wasnt trying to scare him. gavin had questions, i answered them honestly because ultimately its his decision"
now thats a good doctor
Exactly! The parents are basically gaslighting their youngest son to donate
Choi is my favorite character. He really knows what he’s doing especially when it comes to challenging circumstances like this.
@@Chatterbox-94 I've only seen clips of the show, but from what I have seen, Choi seems like that character who takes no BS.
The parents are abusing Gavin. I don’t care if its legal. This is straight up abuse
They're abusing both
@@samg873 Well, not really. If the sick one never expressed his desire to stop treatment before, they wouldn't know that that's what he wanted.
@@AS-yz2iz maybe he has and parents didn't care? They seem like that type
@@samg873 I doubt it, because when he voiced it here, they were upset, but they listened and agreed. He was probably afraid to tell them before this, so they might not have known.
Agree
When she said she had her second child to save her first and then explained how they immediately began taking from him…his cord blood, organs. The lack of concern for her youngest. This is evil. Some people should never be parents.
The sad thing is this actually exists in the real world, and it is completely legal. These donor babies get brought up being brain washed with "don't you wanna help your sister/brother? They are hurting and they need you". I don't know how any of these people can look their child in the eye and tell them they love them when they were literally lab grown for spare parts to save a child the parents had with the sole intention of just having a child.
They did this storyline in another episode of the savior sibling & the mom had to have heart surgery. The baby died in surgery & the mom cried feeling like she failed her daughter.
Savior siblings, I don't care if it's legal, it's not right & there should be a law. No matter the child's age, if they can speak for themselves & they refuse, they shouldn't be pushed & it should qualify as abuse if the parents try to coerce rather manipulate
@@toristraube9845 yep, I was one of them. They make you feel guilty and make it seem like it’s your fault if something happens to them. It’s awful wouldn’t wish it on anybody.
I have no issues with cord blood since that comes from the umbilical cord and thus causes no harm to the baby. I'm with you on everything else though, especially the kidney since that is irreplicable and affects one's quality of life. Particularly since some doctors think it is best to avoid contact sports like football, boxing, hockey, soccer, martial arts, or wrestling. He was forced to give up hockey because of his kidney donation.
@@toristraube9845 ugh I never lived through that but dang that's the same way my gram guilted my mom to come to her house everyday and make mom make us stay with her EVEN FOR A DAY WITHOUT PARENTS STAYING THE NIGHT heck she told mom she could just drop us off while mom went to a grocery store 5 minutes away 😒😒 I started putting my foot down more and more each year as dad said understandable if we lived in a bad neighborhood but no we lived in a family neighborhood literally 95% of the ppl we are related to and could call someone if there was trouble my uncle's had their guns and nearest one 2 minutes away probably faster in emergency and we knew the numbers if there was an emergency AT 18 SHE STILL MADE ME SLEEP AT HER HOUSE WHILE IN SCHOOL AT THAT AGE I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN FORCED and I believe she was the one who kept calling emergency services when she knew our parents weren't home cause mighty suspicious she kept bringing up after each call why you would stay there when you could come stay with me 🤨🤨🤨 she had high blood pressure and her stupid worrying of us always made her think she was having a heart attack but she never forced her other children to come help nope instead it was always mom literally they were treated like they were dying when it was sinus or allergies but God forbid when mom had the flu oh just put some medicine in you you will be alright and come help me 😡😡
The sick brother had more sense and compassion for life than his parents
agreed it is his decision
Agreed
Definitely agree, the sad reality is parents don't want to listen
he reminds me of my brother's wife who after so many years of fighting her cancer asked to be allowed to die. she was tired and ready to go.
@@marikatemoore5110 What parent would accept that their child wants to die?
I love how you can literally see the doctor’s face silently hating this parents the moment he heard why Gavin was conceived. He knows they are abusive parents and can’t do anything.
"And my little brother's suffering too." He loves his brother. That's so sweet and sad.
This breaks my heart. My oldest sister had cancer when we were younger. It would've broken her to know that any of us suffered like that just to save her and I feel the same way if that were me as the cancer patient.
He's the only one in his family who saw his brothers pain
I think that would be the most unrealistic part of the plot. Sick Kids usually don't really think of anyone but themselves as they are raised to be very self involved and self centered because of their medical condition. In fact, most enjoy the fact that the healthy child is neglected. And the parents continue to keep doing in order to appease the sick one's many demands.
Actually, a lot of sick kids do think of their younger siblings, family and friends. My younger sister’s illnesses lead us to frequent appointments at out state’s major children’s hospital (she was an out patient and didn’t need to be there all the time because it was less severe than a lot of the other kids there). This lead us to interacting with a lot of the kids and families over there. Most of those kids are some of the most selfless kids you will ever meet.
@@KaiTheTyrant Selfless meaning that despite their illness, they would be willing to sacrifice (whatever) to ensure that their other family members are treated well and fairly? They stand up and advocate for the neglected healthy ones?
So, when the boy with cancer dies, the parents are going to forget about the younger one… He’s only there as a living donor, and that’s all they see him as. How sick can you be?!
That's disgusting. They knew their kid was going to die young anyway. All they did was prolong thier eldest child's suffering while creating another child to suffer and be spare parts. Horrible people.
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It still dosent make diners to me instead of having one son dying young you now have 2 one who’s being used as an organ farm living a restrained life all while the other has to have their suffering prolonged with the added guilt of knowing their needs are hurting the other
The truth is this is a reality in the US and other countries
People like them should be charged with child abuse.
Literally made a spare parts container of a son it's sick
I have a friend in Japan. She was abandoned by her parents when she was born, raised by her aunt. Decades later they come back into her life, just after she bought a nice house an was doing great. They demanded she give their son, her home. She of course declined. So the parents took her to court. And now because of Japans dumb child parent laws, she has to tale care of her parents for the rest of thier lives. These parents, who left her because they wanted a Son, now live in her house, and she pays the bills. These parents reminded me of those ones.
Omg wtf did i just read?
Those are japanese laws. If your friend doesn't have a family, maybe its time she go globetrotting. Maybe help her get a green card or citizenship in your country, she can say shes going on a little trip for a week or so, and then she buys a one-way ticket.
I also heard the Story but i believe it was China rather than Japan.
Yes, it’s a story from China. Japan doesn’t have such laws, girls aren’t seen as lesser there the way they are in Chinese countryside especially (because the daughter has to leave for the husband’s parental household and look after them, so her own parents have no one, which is why boys are valued over girls).
The parents who forced their son to donate a kidney as a child are still worse
They shouldn't even be allowed to keep their younger child. How dare you value the life and safety of one child over another.
You're absolutely right. They severely abused and neglected their younger son, and thus have lost the right to be his "parents". And even if he wasn't taken away, can you imagine living with them after the older brother died? Knowing that they only had you so you could keep your sibling alive and not even loving you enough to consider your autonomy? It's already driven a wedge between them, and unless those "parents" make some EXTREME changes, they're not going to lose just one son, but both.
Someone call CPS on these families 📞 please😒🙄
I agree. They are horrible people
@Cavachoncx3 oh my god, 666, Hail Satan
Have you seen the movie My Sister’s Keeper (starring Abigail Breslin)? Abigail plays a young girl who fights to become medically emancipated from her parents, because she was conceived to donate to her sickly older sister. She’s had enough & wants autonomy of her body, her sick older sister encourages her to fight for it. The movie is based on a book, the book is based on true events.
Oh man, the kids are gonna love deciding which nursing home they're gonna send their parents to.
Well. The younger one will.
@@komikbookgeek 💀
Pity Alcatraz isn't taking inmates any more...
If he'll even survive past his parents. It's more likely he'll die before the parents. How many things has he given up to prolong his brother's life? He wouldn't have the best quality of life.
@@-saffie-4977he’s missing a kidney, he’s basically completely fine
Just because your the parents doesn't mean you can make all the decisions without talking and listening to your kids. The child with cancer needs to be heard and his brother deserves a full life.
@Angel Pascual actually the child can say no and the hospital can choose not to prefer the procedure.
@Angel Pascual some states at the age of 14 they can say no and medical professionals have to listen. Just depending on state law.
@Angel Pascual children are not property what are you on? Legally, no human being in the states is or can be property. Kids have a will and autonomy that should be acknowledged. If they were parents' property would there be laws to protect them against domestic abuse? There was no reason for you to phrase it that way.
@angelpascual6422dk, ima do it anyways lmao what law finna stop ne 💀
@Angel Pascual children are not property. Maybe in China or a country that has slavery still in place , but children are the most protected group of people in the u.s.
This is so sad, Gavin clearly isn't just the Saviour Child, he's also the Glass Child. I couldn't imagine being created for the sole purpose of prolonging my very ill siblings already short lifespan. And being gaslighted and manipulated by the parents because the only child they truly care about and love is Thomas.
"the only child they truly care about and love is Thomas" You still missed it. They did not care about and love him.
if they didnt care about Thomas, why did they create an entire other human being IN A DISH just for spare parts to prolong Thomas's own already short life? If anything they loved him too much, as there were multiple times when the parents refused to listen to Thomas when he tried to talk them out of using Gavin.@@courtr1588
The parents should rely on the healthy child vs using him as cattle for a child that won’t survive long anyways
@@courtr1588 They did, im sure and Praying that they love both, they were just desperate to save Thomas.
Child Protective Services should be automatically called in this situation.
Unfortunately, since the savior sibling procedure is legal, there is nothing CPS can do about it. Because if they did, the parents could sue them for 'trampling on their parenting rights' as, until a certain age, parents can make medical choices for their child. The only way they could step in is if Gavin was saying no and asked the hospital staff for help because his parents tried to force him to. Or if the hospital staff had solid evidence that the parents were being abusive to Gavin. IE they caught the parents slapping or yelling at Gavin for not wanting to donate.
The Doctors should have refused to do the procedure.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl what they are doing is emotional abuse - honestly, they deserve to loose both children, I mean, what if his body gives up while on the operating table - they would deserve that watching both of their kids die because they couldn't accept facts
@@kellharris2491 and then get sued and lose their medical license yes very smart choice
@@frostbite2179 they can refuse to do so if they know the kid doesn't want it done.
My friend was "spare parts" for his Sister. He wanted to go to Paris and see the Van Gogh paintings and the Musee d'Orsay. He wanted to see the Matterhorn and live in Switzerland - He never got that choice, he died on the operating table. His parents didnt blink an eye - Which is often the case in these situations. He was so loved, by everyone in our school, he died three weeks after prom and it was discovered after death that he had Cancer too. I can't look his Mother in the eyes anymore.
I miss you Andy... Every day
Their parents should go to jail may 5he angel of your friend rest in peace
@@mavirr_crazylittlegirl8902 I dont believe in Angels.
@rosierennie5867 Sorry did not meant to insult your beliefs
What about others in his family?
@@brandoncolis3841 I only knew his parents and his sister - So I couldn't really say
I don’t think I could ever look at my parents the same if I was only created to be a donation vessel for my older sibling. I’m only here to save your life, and I have to miss out on parts of mine too.
Heck I wouldn’t even call them parents
I’d be petty the second they need anything like blood or just a party favor for Christmas
@@justindixon1586 When you are a child. You don have any say in that
@@LightningFox7 yes you do.
@@trinitylivingston1286 You really don't
It hurts to see someone who is terminally ill who is forced emotionally / mentally to continue fighting for their lives when all they want is just to rest in peace. The burden and pain they must feel.
Seriously. It is so inhumane and selfish to force people to keep living because you don't want to face grief. People should be able to let go if they really truly want to. 💔
@@sadezem991 sometimes it is because you love your family so much that you don’t want to leave them or cause them more pain . I can understand this character who has a terminal illness because I too have late stage cancer .My worry about what is going to happen to my kids are the reasons I still want to fight even if I am so tired and in pain. Life is so unfair but that’s life.
@@mrp5578 true but his living is causing his younger brother pain sadly.
Especially when they know that them living is causing their younger sibling pain.
@@mrp5578 listen I may just be a person on a phone behind a screen but love just go in peace they’ll be fine, they’ll live.
It amazes me that something like this is legal. It would make more sense for the doctors to call authorities if someone asked them to create a living organ farm because thats what that little kid is !!!
Pressuring a little kid to give up his organs and other body parts is just disgusting.
I hate how they manipulate the younger brother too. "You wanna help your brother right?"
That baby had a panic attacks even thinking about donating
@@MoulderingMortal that baby had a panic attack even thinking of donating. Dr should have got social worker or someone
Yeah I'd like to think I wouldn't be like those parents. Truth of the matter until you're in that situation you can't tell what you'd do.
Actually it is illegal, here in Europe and it should be illegal in America to, but somehow the America government does not get that into there heads. And that really sad, 'cause that little kid is not loved by his parents even a bit. He is only getting used by them
“Savior Siblings” should be considered child abuse.
If the only reason you have a kid is so you or another can have extra organs/marrow, take care of you or another or to replace another kid. You are a bad parent. Period.
The fact that it is legal to do so at all is complete and utter BS.
And then to gaslight and guilt trip your child to keep him a willing donor... It infuriates me to see the head games parents will play to get what they want. They don't care about him, they only care about the first born.
Reminds me of my sisters keeper
That book and movie was so sad
People say that but in truth until you're in that position...you really can't tell where your mind would be.
@@lisag5002 doesn't make it right. And it would be like me genetically modifying my baby to insure my child will get a heart before thirty. It's wrong and disgusting.
Lisa G: It's true, none of us know exactly how we'll react or feel until we find ourselves in an unexpected situation. BUT: this was planned in advance, by having a baby in vitro specifically to be a donor for his brother. Each child born deserves to be loved just for who they are, not for what they can do for a sibling. To me, that whole premise is morally and ethically wrong.
Choi and April should have called Child Protective Services the second those parents said that Gavin was conceived just to be a donor for his brother and had already donated a kidney. There should be a third party there to ensure Gavin's best interests.
It's not against the law to conceive a child just to be a donor. Until the child is aware and can talk for themselves the parents are in control and what they say goes. Which is also not illegal.
Realistically, the parents have the consent and the kids are deluded into thinking the situation is fair. The younger brother thinks he’s helping his brother and will say as much. CPS literally can’t do anything in the situation since they’d be overriding both the wishes of the parents and child, it’s not the government’s job to override a person’s medical wishes, even in situation like these.
The parents do have the right to make medical decisions for their child but in a situation like this CPS or social services could petition a judge to appoint an advocate for Gavin to ensure his parents aren't making decisions that would be detrimental to him for the sake of his brother.
No love at all. Some parents just use their kids. No wonder kids cut their parents out of their lives.
I was conceived so my mother could have the "dolly-baby" she'd always dreamed of. She was obsessed with dolls and my assignment at birth was to BE her doll. Unfortunately, I refused to be the placid, passive toy she wanted and she never quite forgave me for that sin. Our relationship was never warm -- she mothered by force and dominance and I grew up defying her and running away every chance I got!
I suspect she was a high-functioning autistic who distrusted pleasure. Life was a "chore" she had to endure and her only safety was in following rules to the letter. The poor woman brought unnecessary misery into her life and couldn't understand why others refused to live in a way that made her happy.
@@krisaaron5771 that doesn't sound like autism. It sounds more like narcissistic ritual habits. Narcs often cope with stress by having strict rituals and can behave almost robotically.
I say this because I had a cold relationship with my mother as well and it parallels with what you described. I rebelled, too.
What episode is this?
You would never understand their situation
@@Ambelica yeah because I would never force a child to do something like this- it’s basically abuse
This sounds like a form of torture for both. One Is just suffering constantly, and the other is being picked at bit by bit and disregarded.
Parents who do this should be in prison for life. They have a child just to kill the new child off to save the eldest. It’s disgusting. At some point there needs to be a law banning parents from just having kids to be “saviors” and spare parts.
The law needs to ban IVF. The IVF process gives parents and doctors god-like power over life and death. Embryos are created at will, the "good" ones implanted and expected to perform, and the "weak" ones discarded. This is the root of the problem. A child should come into the world received as an unmerited gift.
If you think about it, they are slowly killing him. There's always a risk you might die during surgery so they're literally gambling with his life. If you think about it, is he really that healthy if he only has one kidney? Sure he can live with only one kidney but what happens when the other one possibly gets infected or something and he has to get it removed when he's older? He'll either have to have dialysis for the rest of his life or he might die. What if his older brother needs another kidney?
The question is, how do you prove that in court?
@@Kakashi20xd6 I mean they literally told a doctor that that’s why they had the him that’s pretty damning
@@thepolarianempire and it wasn't just one doctor who heard it either so there was a witness. They even witnessed the panic attack the little brother had too.
Parents to the younger sibling: we are so disappointed in you that you won't donate to your brother.
Parents to the older sibling: you could never disappoint us.
Yep, and then parents like that have the nerve to say it's okay to have a designer baby, since they love both kids equally.
They don’t view the younger sibling as their child. He’s something they had made to harvest his organs.
They made their son give up a kidney! Where’s CPS?
Just for the show, you can't donate a major organ like that. There is laws about it no matter what the show say, of.course it varies in every state.
He agreed and had parental consent. Unless an advocate stood up for him and made a public splash, its gonna hold up legally. Morally not so much.
They conceived him for the sole purpose of harvesting his organs to save their other child.
@shihoblade its not that simple they would usually require that people undergo therapy and very, very few doctors would do a kidney transpant from a child with dubious consent
Matters of this nature are extremely loosely regulated and there is no set standard for how to deal with a case. Another example of this is the film My Sisters Keeper, where the Savior Sibling fights her lawyer mom in court and the fact the mom can, in the same breath, say the child ‘consented to organ donation’ and ‘doesn’t understand what she’s doing’ says everything.
It’s heartbreaking knowing that some people are desperate enough to conceive a child just so that they can be used as spare parts. It’s child abuse to a whole new level.
You can’t even do that for rat fetus in labs
It is so awful and wrong to bring a child into this world with a job already. It’s disgusting if you ask me. Sorry, not sorry.
Agreed they basically gave birth birth to him thinking he’s a tool not a person they thought about they’re first son living like the second ones had to stop his life and wants just for him I can understand not wanting to lose a kid but hurting the other just making them both suffer is worse then the other option
@@justindixon1586 FR
Some people don't deserve to be parents.
Don’t be sorry for saying the truth
Exactly! That is why I hate when people have kids to save a marriage and the term rainbow baby because it makes it seem that they are born to be a do over baby. It takes the individuality from the new baby and emphasizes that the new baby probably wouldn't exist had the previous baby not died.
Clearly the parents never listened to either kid, the older child doesn’t want his brother to go through pain for him and doesn’t want to go through the pain himself, his younger brother doesn’t want to donate but he also doesn’t want his older brother to be in pain or die. This is heartbreaking for both boys.
Using a child for parts for another child should be child abuse and child neglect. Its just really morally compromising. I know cancer sucks and being a helpless bystander is devasting, but to emotionally and mentally manipulate a CHILD to sacrifice his own healthy organs and etc is just down right digusting on every level imaginable.
This episode is SO sad. Not just for the young healthy child, but also the sick child as well.
So glad Thomas spoke up for Gavin & told his parents about what he really felt. Parents are always sadly in denial when their child finally refuses treatment & they always know more than they're given credit for
Kids have NO SAY! HE NEEDS TO BLINDLY OBEY HIS PARENTS!
@@SantanaCampbellBegone Satan
Poor Gavin. He is just a child and his parents treat him like a lab rat, whose only purpose in their family is to keep his brother healthy. They don't stop to consider GAVIN'S wants or needs....like going to school or playing hockey with his friends. I DO agree with the doctors that his parents pressured him to give his brother bone marrow. And probably the kidney and the blood, as well.
Agree about the kidney but cord blood is blood taken from the umbilical cord when the kid is born, they’re not sticking a needle into a baby, so they didn’t need to pressure him into donating that.
@@Justice237 No....they saved that for when he was all grown up and it would hurt worse.
Cord blood is taken right after delivery so they didn't actually pressure him at all for that. However there is a not insubstantial amount of research to show that the cord blood really belongs in the newborn it's not something that should be thrown away it's not something that should be banked for later so they probably did cause some harm to a newborn as a result. And they certainly did a whole lot of harm and the kidney and then just going oh yeah he'll donate bone marrow. Like I know we joke about extra organs but they're not really extra.
They're not even considering the older brother's wants and needs. Their only concern is keeping him alive regardless of how miserable that life is to spare themselves the pain of losing a child.
@@queenesther09 exactly. Palliative care and hospice are beautiful, loving treatment plans
I was a cancer patient. I would NEVER accept things from my brothers if my parents forced them. Thankfully, all I needed was chemo and meds, but this is horrifying. (Although, I wouldn't hesitate to donate to my brothers if it came down to it. No one would have to force me.)
ı know me too this is horryfying even for me.
I hope you’re both doing ok out there.
Same I was also a cancer patient and I would never accept organs from my brother if he was forced by our dad, though I wanted to give up half way through the treatments as I was tired of fighting!
It's sad how parents have a second child ONLY for the sole purpose of saving their first born's life. As though their second child is nothing but a cure and not their child too.
Creating a "spare parts" child is truly disgusting that I wish it was illegal. The parents never see the child as a person.
100% agree, this kids not even allowed to have phobias because his parents punish him for it. IVF should never used to created saviour siblings.
In case anyone is interested, there is a book about this very topic. It's called My Sister's Keeper, where a family has a child just to be "The Perfect Match" for their other daughter with cancer. It's written from the donor child's perspective, and she ends up suing her parents for medical emancipation. This video reminded me of it.
I feel like everyone is bringing the 📖/📽️ in the comment section. Heck I'm 3min in and I thought about it, only seen it once and haven't seen it in years...such a sad ending
I was thinking the same exact thing as soon as I saw the title. It's the reason I clicked on the video to begin with.
The trouble with the film and this episode, is that it glosses over the abuse being carried out by the parents - it's the 'brave' cancer child who wants to die/no longer wanting treatment that stops the abuse, not legal/medical intervention!!!
And then she dies after winning the case and the parents get her organs anyway. Bullshit!
Even the giving up hockey was the same
Keep this in mind too, since he was born for this, he was groomed to think this is the right and only thing to do.
the acting from the brothers, more specifically the younger brother, was just incredible and brought tears to my eyes. So well done and so sad.
Same here! I was full-blown crying. Wonderful acting.
The acting is so good you sometimes forget that you're watching a TV show 🤣
Same
Why do I have this...foreboding feeling that if this was real life, the parents will start to neglect the younger brother after the older dies?
Because that's how these kind of people think
It does happen in real life. In some cases, the parents focus on the younger sibling, forcing them to be like the one who died. I saw a case where a child was forced to even due their hair.
How is it legal to engineer a child for spare parts?
Because of people with no sense of morality at all.
I’m a grey area when it comes to morality, but even to use a child for *that* is utterly sickening to me.
You’re so right.
It's literally turning your own child into an organ farm. One of the reasons why remote, self harvesting organs should be more researched
Because they can’t understand that their children have emotions
Damn that’s accurate
The fact that they said that he could never disappoint them because they value his option to choose whether or not he wants to deal with rhis pain but they were disappointed and terrible to their youngest not caring how much pain hes in
Yet Thomas is the only one that stood up for him.
literally the psychological abuse they're putting the younger brother through, guilting him into risky surgeries.......
Yeah, heartwarming ending....until you fast forward a year. The older brother has passed, the younger brother is no longer "necessary," and suddenly everything the younger brother does is "wrong, bad, not how your bother would do it!! No, you can't celebrate your birthday! We need to MOURN!! No, you can't go to college, WE need you!! No, you can't have a wedding, we need to have a MEMORIAL!!"
Don't HAVE one kid to SAVE another! Because you've already picked favorites before the second kid is even born! "These are our kids! This is Suzy and this is Donor #1. Donor #1 can't do sports, theater, or hang out with friends because those might damage SUZY'S organs!"
Sad but true. I feel for both brothers. I feel for the younger brother, because when he is old enough to understand well why he was conceived, he will be in a lot of pain. Plus his parent’s will probably resent him and for the older brother’s death. It’s sad but the likely outcome.
I understand what it's like to have to give up certain things because your older sibling is sick. It was similar circumstances, my older my sister had leukemia herself but my parents didn't have us donate our bone marrow. I had to give up soccer, dance class, and Girl Scouts for awhile.
The kids are better actors than the adults
fr, those kids are gonna go far if they decide to continue acting
The McGraw family is very talented
the older brother gave me chills
The younger boy should be taken away from his 'parents' right on the spot.
What ABSOLUTE scumbags...
Disabling one child to heal another is awful.
I love the little savior sibling he's so kind shame on his parents that don't appreciate such a sweet child. He was terrified but still wanted to help her brother, and the Older brother has way more empathy and kindness than the parents together he is a angel as well.
These would be the same parents who would wonder why their adult child doesn't talk to them.
Or why their adult child drop them some day in some crappy retirement house and never returned.
That is so disgusting to do that to a child. Knowing he was only made to save his brother and that the pain and suffering HE had to go through didn't matter nearly as much as the brother.
He is going to HATE his parents, and rightfully so. Don't EVER do this to a child. Monsters.
As a cancer patient when I was younger I understand the pain of not wanting to do it anymore 😭 if I hadn’t been seventeen at the time I wouldn’t of token any of the medication and woulda choose to just die in my home at peace
Children are more selfless than adults sometimes
Do think it was worth it now or would you still choose to go... obviously you don't have to answer if you don't feel comfortable im just curious.
I'm glad you made it. My son is a pediatric cancer survivor too. He was 19 when he was diagnosed with AML.
@@demoritzz5327 ehh honestly depends on the day some days are tougher then others
@@AS-yz2iz I’m so sorry hope he’s better🙏
I understand that the parents only wanted to save Thomas, but no parent should use a second-born child as a savior. This reminds me of “My Sister’s Keeper”. The boys have my deepest sympathy.
I'm really sorry for the 2born, I know panic attacks. What he's describing sounds awful!
But hearing the elder boy saying:
"I'm in pain. And my little brother is suffering, too. I don't want to fight anymore.
I'm ready to go."
I immediately started crying.
How much pain that kid must have been through to tell them all that all he wants now is to die... I can't. Unbearable... Such a young soul 😭 so sad.
Same here💔
Wanting to give up is not weakness, it takes a lot of strength just to think about it
You know the idea of having a child just to save another is disgusting. They have no way to fight back.
This has to be a form of child abuse. Honestly the doctors should have called CPS and have the parents locked up for being this cruel to their kids.
It's so unbelievably selfish to bring a child into the world just to be spare parts. Shouldn't be legal. It should be charged as child abuse. Absolutely disgusting.
it might surprise you but apparently it is legal for a child to be an organ donor in some states but even then usurpingly those things require permission from the child itself
People also dont realize that some terminal patients just want to go and stop feeling pain. That younger kid needs new parents.
Another episode that reminds me of My Sister’s Keeper; I loved that movie. The younger brother should really see a therapist because growing up knowing that you were made to be parts for your brother can not be good for your mental state. These parents really need to look at themselves; I understand wanting to do everything you can for your child to live, but your slowly killing your other child by doing so. You never know if a surgery will go bad especially when it concerns transplants.
It's based off a book of the same name by Jodi Picoult, I highly recommend it and her as an author.
@@mariahclaar7915 the book is so good and well written
@@mariahclaar7915 I've read the book and while it was good, I hated the ending (especially in comparison to the movie). The ending in the book made it seem/feel, to me, that all the actions that Anna and Kate did were for nothing as well as the message that the parents shouldn't have used Anna like that and should've listened more to what she wanted. Anna dying just came out of nowhere and it seemed like her life didn't mean anything. She was born for her sister and, in the end, she fulfilled that purpose. Just a personal opinion.
@@PrincessOfTheNight01 That was the point though...
I understand that, but I still didn’t like it. I like how the movie portrayed it better even though it doesn’t follow the book exactly.
Absolutely heartbreaking when the older brother said he wanted to go, I can’t imagine being sick my whole life
where’s that one doctor who keeps breaking the rules to do what’s right when you need her
Hopefully in prison for malpractice.
do you mean Dr house
Are you talking about Will?
@@jorienwachukwu466 no there’s this one doctor in this series that keeps breaking rules to treat people
@@realtrickswag5986Dr. Manning?
The things the parents were putting the child through is just cruel. Parents do this all over the world and it was disgusting.
From the way the little boy is talking about it he had anesthesia awareness... That's such a scary thing. I'm fortunate to never have experienced it but I've heard survivors stories and it's terrifying. But oh my gosh.. the parents are evil. Having a child for a parts department is messed up.
And the big brother is so brave to say that he was ready to go. I know he loves his baby brother. I can't imagine how guilty he felt knowing how his brother was being treated because of him. The parents are cruel people. I hope the two brothers at least have a good relationship together
That's terrifying.
Wait, anesthesia awareness? So it's not just me who woke up in the middle of having my face be operated on after a nasty fall?
@@samcochran8203 no! It's very much a real thing.
Sometimes doctors just dismiss it when you wake up from surgery or whatever thinking you just imagined it or something.
A couple of years ago when my mom had to have surgery on her foot I told her that if she woke up or felt anything after being knocked out to tell me. Luckily she didn't but I was always curious about how often it might actually be happening to people
@@samcochran8203 I got interested in it when I found out I might have to have gallbladder surgery. I learned about it from a Shane Dawson video where he talked to a woman who experienced it and developed PTSD from it
@@samcochran8203 I woke up during surgery too. Unlike the stories I hear, though, I don't remember any pain.
Having a savior sibling is child abuse. You’re only having a child to be spare parts for your real kid, not because you want another one.
the kid should have a choice of his own! Not the parents to treat him like a organ donor when he's got a life, feel bad for both the siblings who are in pain.
Can we just appreciate how amazing the acting is of those two young boys 😢🥺🖤 they have so much potential
Oh my god they’re abusing the little brother this is disgusting.
My baby sister once asked me at 14 if she could donate one of her corneas to me so I could regain at least some of my vision. I was incredibly touched but even at 15 and without a life-threatening condition I knew to refuse because she shouldn’t have to do something so life altering for because of my difficult circumstances. A child should never, ever be the first option for organ donation without exhausting all other possibilities. This is disturbing and down right disgusting, those parents should be arrested for violation of the Geneva convention. No human being should be treated as a farm guinea pig.
All children deserve parents, but not all parents deserve children.
God, the manipulation with these so-called "parents". It honestly makes me sick that things like this happen; they think that they're doing the right thing but the only thing that they're doing is killing both of their kids slowly. The older brother knows that he's sick and dying, and is also having to (literally) live with the fact his younger brother is suffering horribly for him; while the younger brother is in constant inner turmoil because he's so scared and is constantly being gaslighted by his parents to be a donor for his brother while his own life and rights are being shoved aside. Not to even mention how freaking YOUNG Gavin is, Chirst. There's a reason why minors are rarely donors for these sort of things.
In my eyes, these parents are no different than the ones who beat, neglect, and sell their children for their own benefit. They only care about themselves and their needs/feelings, no one elses.
If I were ever in the position of the older brother, and my sister the younger, I would choose to die or receive transplants from a appropriate donor, even if it meant it would be too late. What would be the point of living if someone I loved was suffering because of it?
Good thing children don't get to.make.medical decisions for themselves then.
@@maxmccullough8548 They should be allowed to though, at least in situations like this. A child should have the right to decide what is done to their body.
No matter how many times I see this, I tear up when Thomas says he doesn't want to continue his battle.
After learning about 'designer' babies, and knowing what they are designed for, I thought it was truly disgusting. Much as the thought of one of my kids dying hurts, I could never hurt one to save the other in this way.
I hate it when someone says "I know how this sounds but..."
It's essentially saying "I know it's wrong but I actually don't care and need you to get over it and not call me out on anything I'm doing that's seriously messed up."
What makes this even worse is that the parents at any point could have donated or tried to donate marrow, blood, or organs to their child. They could have also asked around among adult family members to volunteer. But instead they decided to have another child just to be used as “spare parts”. Absolutely disgusting.
That kid's acting skills is phenomenal, he's going places 👏👏👏
Having a whole child as an organ farm makes me sick. I get that your kid is sick, but you have no right to hurt your other kid like that.
"I'm not scared anymore"
Well, now i need to explain why it looks like I have been crying for weeks when I go to work. This was heartbreaking.
In an episode of CSI they had a case where a little girl went missing. As they investigated they found out that the older brother had a list of medical problems that required donations. So the family would use the daughter as spare parts. At the end it was revealed that the brother not only took her but also killed her because he felt his parents would always use her to keep him alive despite the fact he didn't want them too.
I saw that. He asked them to swear they wouldn't do it anymore, and they did, but the moment it got worse they found an excuse to break their word. Now their younger daughter is dead, the older one is in prison, and their son will soon be dead. All their children gone, thanks to their own selfish refusal to let one go.
The favoritism sickens me. They don’t care about the younger boy at all. If they did, they respect that he does not want to donate.
4:23 - Those manipulative, gaslighting pieces of (insert curse word I can't say because I hate cursing) 😡
Problem is, if the donor sibling doesn't donate, the parents will just hate him forever. Where does he go then? Where will they send him? Foster care? The street? What's worse?
Somewhere away from his parents. There’s no telling whether or not the transplant will even work or for how long the sibling will life afterwards. Now they made a healthy child unhealthy for a child that wasn’t even going to live long.
Or they'll just continue living together being miserable.
The other will just be abused or neglected until the parents get old and expect him to take of them
I don't know how those doctors weren't crying. "I'm ready to go" hearing a child say that breaks my heart 😭😭
This is absolutely disgusting. Conseiving a child just to be a donor has to be a harrowing reality
Using Your Own Flesh and Blood for ANY REASON IS INHUMANE!!
This poor kid was having panic attacks 😭
It’s terrifying though that after the sick brother passes, these vile parents will be left with the brother who was born to donate his parts. I do hope regardless he ends up with a caring relative or foster family that does see him as his own person
I honestly love how Ethan can handle patients like that!
He’s my favorite character!
It’s sad how this is not an exaggeration. I get that these parents want to save their child but they put so much focus on what they want instead listening to what their child wants.
Jesus, kid who played Thomas is such a good actor. Made me tear up.
That is one very brave and selfless kid right there.
Yeah, some folks don’t need to be parents. 😬
Can't imagine what knowing that the only reason you exist is to be spare parts for someone else could do to a person. To know you weren't wanted so much as required
The fact that neither parent bothered to sit with the younger kid while being assesed screams neglect.
The way they look at him... they're like vultures stripping him down bot by bit.
Phenomenal acting all round.
Creating a child just for spare parts is disgusting.
This is so moving this kid has a heart of gold and he is an angel I cryed over this
i know a boy who was born solely for his bone marrow to donate to his older brother. then his parents always wanted a little girl, and the next baby they had was a girl.... so he's basically the ultimate middle child.
Poor kid.
@@doubleflores8350 i only hung out with him for a day years ago, he was probably around 6 and i was around 11- but good lord the amount of favoritism and like.... i don't know, just the amount he was ignored was insane. i'm a middle child and it was honestly one of those moments that you think "huh, i knew it could be worse, but not THAT much worse."
@@dekusi1857 that kid grew up to have some severe mental issues. I just know it.
The kid has greater compassion than adults toward their child! OH MY GOD
I have heard a phrase that speaks volumes; "the hardest part of loving someone is knowing when to let go".
It's so sad because I know a similar situation to this in real life. It was horrendous. And now that the older brother passed from cancer, the little one is still living on trying to live up to his parents standards without his big brother. 😢
stop killing your other kid as well actually shameful what these parents do