She's Not Adopted, She's Kidnapped | Chicago Med | MD TV
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2022
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The fact that the bio mother didn’t seem to have reported her daughter as missing says a lot
Where do they say that she didn't report it?
@@ThePrincessCH I didn’t say 100% that she didn’t but they didn’t say she did
@@bekah4137 So just because they didn't say she did doesn't mean she didn't do it.
@@supershinigami1 It’s more weird that they didn’t say she reported it.
@@bekah4137 right. Like you’d think there would’ve been a whole scene about finding out she was reported missing
She never reported her daughter missing. That is a HUGE point.
Right!!!!
She was strung out, her daughter wouldn't have even been a priority at that point.
She was on drugs, it kinda makes sense
FACTS 💯
She thought she was dead
I thought this was gonna be bad. Not really. If you were gonna leave your kid outside for hours and hours while you got strung out on drugs then you shouldn't be a parent.
i say the 2 who taken her are true parents no matter they kidnapped her or not they the one save her life & get her help that she needs if they lie but they had no other way if she mother die she be next so save one life for another
I agree in this case.
@@xoangelicaf0523 on what part??
@@havok9001 but the mother got cleaned you can make the argument she got cleaned BECAUSE of the kidnapping but they should've called cps from the beginning
@@hibarikyoya854 u got to ask urself when she got clean is it after her kid gone missing by getting kidnapped or dead cuz that woman dont know unit years later
Kidnapping aside, I’m glad they took her. They saved her and possibly did better than the state was gonna do for her had they called Cps instead. And the mother understood too. I’m glad she’s gotten herself together and is willing to try
Dream on.
THIS IS A WRITTEN SCRIPT ! All these people doing like my mother does and debating it out it like it's real...its almost embarrassing for them
Personally I agree with you. That baby was in a toxic relationship with her mother. The family had good intentions, but they just had poor actions.
@@raellskys4083 have you never had an ethical debate regarding fictional work? That was the entirety of middle school and high school English for most people I know. It’s okay to discuss ethics based on works of fiction.
Maybe even let the other parents adopt her and visit here n there
The biological mom wanting to thank the parents who raised her child shows that she understood the reasning and most importantly was happy and relieved that someone cared so much for her infant to save her and give her a loving home
And did she? I never watch this series; I just watched this out of curiosity.
im not sure about the legality but i wonder if the mom testifying on the couples side could help the situation at all. sometimes even if a crime is committed, if it goes to trial a jury would likely be willing to side with the defendant if even the bio mom is saying she’s glad it happened
and didn’t get paid for it from the state
@@jayleighbear I could totally see a case like this being found guilty but with *far* reduced sentencing - no prison time, just probation and a fine for example, or an absolute discharge (where there is a finding of guilt, but no punishment at all). Especially when both the victim and mother of the victim have no ill will towards the "kidnappers". I don't even think a jury would be needed, any sane judge would see that this was a "crime", but one that arguably saved human suffering, rather than caused it.
And to further note, the fact the mother never reported the child missing would be a major benefit to their case. On the other hand, the fact they didn't notify the relevant authorities like CPS would play against them.
I don’t see this as kidnapping, this is rescuing. They are heroes
Pretty stupid though. They could’ve done this legally. It’s a long infuriating process but better than being in jail.
the thing is, peoples standards are different and so if you use that terminology it could be broadly interpreted. someone could just kidnap and use that as their defense... that is not right
They could have reported the conditions then petitioned to be temp custodians. Two wrongs don’t make a right
While it may seem like they’re good people, but it doesn’t matter, they still ended up doing something completely illegal and they’re just deep down afraid they’ll get caught. If they weren’t afraid, they would’ve admitted it to the cops and dealt with this legally in the first place and filed to take her in if possible. That would’ve been the actual proper way to deal with this.
@@123RADIOactive illegal does not equal bad, legal does not equal good
When the bio mom wanted to thank the couple that took Gabby, it gave me chills
Same. Bio Mom knew that she had messed up in the past when Gabby was a baby and could have killed her daughter. Now the mom is gonna have a tough time accepting that Gabby will never see her as her mother and the one that took away her parents which in all fairness may be cruel but true. Bio Mom may have given birth to her but she did not raise her.
Tears! I wasn’t expecting that ending!!!
That's very powerful. The power of love & forgiveness.
She doesn't deserve to be a part of that girls life .I hope she wasn't
Wow. This one hurt. I was abandoned in Vietnam by my mother, found by a stranger who brought me to the closet orphanage and was eventually adopted by my parents and got to grow up in a wealthy community in Connecticut. I’m sure if my mother could meet my parents she’d thank them as well.
I was fostered for three years by a Vietnamese family, I miss them so much, I'm sad I got taken away from them. I'm glad you were able to be adopted :) 🇻🇳
The fact that she had you means she somehow cared because she didn’t end her pregnancy. God knows the situation she was in. Thankfully you were adopted by a family that kept you. 🙌🏼
Maybe she didn't leave you on purpose. Mayne she's didn't abandoned you
@@emmaria_jaja4510 Or maybe she didn't do it out if her own free will. America is going to be seeing a lot of that happening soon.
@@ButtonsCasey it's what I'm trying to say sorry English is not my mother tongue🙈
I think it’s nice that the biological mother realized that the couple saved her child’s life and didn’t go on a self-entitled and selfish rant about taking her daughter. Though, I would understand if she still felt that way, as long as she still realizes that the final product was the salvage of her daughter’s life.
Still, I hope they decide on having a shared custody situation. She should still have a chance of building that relationship if that’s what they all agree on.
I do not think it should be shared custody situation. The "kidnapers" should be her adoptive parents and her biological mom should be able to be present in her life, if the girl wants that. There is absolutely no reason for shared custudy. Legally it is ofc much more difficult, but moraly this is how it should be imo.
I think that given their ages and ethnicity and the way the adoption and foster care system was (still pretty much is) for black kids they did do what they thought was right by making sure the mom was clean and sober before possibly reuniting them again. If they went the legal route CPS would take the child put them in the system and it could take months maybe years to get her back and that’s not a risk they were willing to take given the horror stories that have been told about the abusive/neglectful foster care system that could happen.
I got the impression that she'll probably tell the DA that she doesn't want to press charges and will even offer to speak for the Defence. All told, the DA will figure out some slap on the wrist - community service or something.
@@terezasmatanova8812 I’m sorry but that’s entitlement. The same women who left her child outside for hours to be on drugs isn’t allowed to Walk in that girls life whenever she wants because she’s the bio mom.
The kidnappers should be in prison and they do not deserve to have any kind of relationship with the victim. What her mother was doing was abusive however this could of been dealt with using the courts if they called child protective services on the bio mum. She would of been forced to get of drugs or lose custody of her child. What the kidnappers did was add to a child's trauma by making her believe that they were her parents and then focusing her to defend their abusive behaviour due to the connection they have with her. This is stockholm syndrome.
I see no bad people here. The "kidnappers" were kind to take a child in, the bio mother cleaned her act and was not angry at them, but thankful for saving her child's life.
Too bad the law is flawed.
@@AJ-TheGr8 I don't believe it would be in this case. More than likely, WAY more than likely, the caretakers will get adoption papers from the bio mother to sign over custody so they really did nothing wrong. She even wanted to thank them and that tells you she would work it out instead of put them behind bars. They were a beautiful people that did a beautiful thing. Probably took the mom a few days to even realize her baby was missing considering she didn't go looking or report her missing.
@@AJ-TheGr8 I wonder what would happen before a jury, with the bio mother arguing they did the right thing.
I appreciate the mercy you gave the bio mom. Most of the comments are quick to condemn her, without seeming to understand the importance of her wanting to thank the “kidnappers”. She was grateful that her baby was alive and well looked after. That already makes her a better mother than a lot of mothers I know, who use their children for their own benefit instead of caring about the child’s well-being.
@@geesegoose6174 this has actually happened in real life tho. Carolina white was stolen from a hospital at birth by a nurse and was raised for 19 years in a happy healthy household. She had no idea she was stolen until applying for college when she didn't have a s.s card or birth certificate. Her "mom" ended up getting sentenced to like 20 years for kidnapping even tho she was a good parent
I wouldn’t view this as kidnapping, it was literally the moral thing to do. That child would have died without them, they didn’t ask for money when raising her. I’ve heard stories of children being locked in cages, starved, and neglected. I hope the parents might find some way to get that charge dropped. (Ik it’s not real but damn does this tug at the heart strings)
Edit: I mean kidnapping not in the eyes of the law. But in a moral standpoint.
It's STILL kidnapping regardless of whatever moral stigma you attach to the word.
It was still the right thing to do.
@@rsrt6910 nah its not that simple. The DA would definitely drop charges after seeing the whole context. Lawyer here.
We have Soros appointed DA's in the major cities in the US now who jump at the chance to convict people who are trying to do the right thing just to "send a message". Those two raised a well adjusted and law abiding daughter, no DA in Chicago is going to let THAT go unpunished!
While i agree it was a good thing what they did to this kid , some kidnappers don't want money or anything but just want a child. Theyd firmly declare the kidnapped kid is theirs. Usually theyre unable to have bio kid or have lost a kid in traumatic experience.
So saying not asking for ransom or not abusing the kid means not kidnapping is wrong statement.
More people like these partners are needes in this world.
When she kept saying “I’m sorry, I’m sorry” I wanted to reach through the phone and hug this angel. She didn’t do this out of malice or from a woman who was a great mom and loved her kids, they weren’t “kidnappers” they saw a beautiful infant and they rescued her and gave her a wonderful life and an infinite amount of love. If they wouldn’t have rescued her, that little girl would have been physically, mentally, and emotionally abused. I mean she saved her daughters life, she was always meant to be their daughter.
You know how you rescue a child who is being harmed? You call the cops or CPS.
You do not kidnap a child. You do not lie to a child for years. You do not tell a child only when forced to do so, while that same child is in the hospital and probably scared half to death.
She was not "meant" to be their daughter. They kidnapped her because they are selfish people, and they did their own share of abusing her by lying to her for her entire life. That's why we don't rescue children by kidnapping - we rescue them by calling the damn authorities.
That poor kid could have been legally adopted for most of her life, if only that couple had considered what was best for HER, not what was best for themselves.
@@TheYasmineFlower at the same coin, CPS is bullshit you gotta understand tht right, they take away children from good homes its happened. And then children with bad homes they just let them be abused for example gabriel fernandez. Honestly in my eyes they good people. The system is entirely broken
@@TheYasmineFlower they had another option. Though, technically it would have been black mail. The could have written an agreement between them for the child and notarized. They could have still left the courts out of it. CPS would have a hard time pursuing that case. Even though, it wouldn't have been a legal adoption. Heck, she could claim they had a verbal agreement she "forgot" about because she was so high. There are still options on the table.
@@TheYasmineFlower Right bc the cps are saints and they don’t take children away from good parents.🙄 that was sarcasm if you didn’t understand
@@TheYasmineFlower You’re acting as if all children in the system Arent abused on a daily and most don’t even find homes. You literally sound ridiculous
The parents do the right thing, they save that girl's life
I could see a jury acquiting them
@@simiaki12 If the mother testified on her behalf, it is possible!
@@simiaki12 definitely
@@simiaki12 yeah they DID kidnap her after all
the RIGHT thing is hospitalisation for the child and calling CPS and police to assess the mother, are you all stupid?!? She nearly died because they kidnapped the child and witheld that info which would have shown genetic disorders.
It wasn’t a kidnap.. it was a rescue and that baby has every right to feel the way she felt but the mother understood everything.
It was a kidnapping, they took someone's baby and left her real mom believe she was dead.
@@kristingallo2158 the mom was the one that left her outside the house when she was inside getting high on drugs. The baby was being neglected already, starved, etc. Would you have preferred that just listened to the baby screaming outside all night until it died eventually??
@@cindypicadomolina7814 you still can't just take a random child and not alert authorities or get legal custody. That's not how laws work.
So even though it’s just a show… the fact that the mother had appreciation for what the couple did is amazing. She knew she was not fit at the moment to care for her, they saw that and made a choice they knew was legally wrong, but morally right. Loved this episode ❤️❤️
Facts if I was a cop I would of let them go
@@yourboymalikcoleman8731 yeah I would have had a problem arresting them. May have just quit as an officer with that one.
@@MissNayNay22 to me they did the right thing
@NayNay Could you tell me pls how did the episode end?? Did the police release the couple??
@@Lysiasolo I’m not sure I never saw the full episode. But if someone has I’d love to know
CPS and Foster Care are not all they are cracked up to be. Sometimes they are much worse.
I know a woman who had her 2 kids taken away. She was a druggie but she did care about her children and she kept them clean and fed despite her habit. Not a week after the kids were placed the foster father beat her 4 year old little boy to death.
It broke her. She was never ok again after that. Who would be.
All that being said I also know a foster family that adopted many children. They were strict with the kids but they did take care of them and raised them in a secure safe home.
@@cassandrahepp6445 the system is broken
As a CPS specialist (my 2nd year), they are so short staff it’s horrible. I’m still consider a trainee in my state. Yet they gave me a stack of files my first year. Their turnover rate is high
As a child that was removed by cps and put in foster care thank you for saying this.
A former employer of mine had been taken away from her mom at the age of 15 because /her brother/ was a drug addict. Not her mother, but her brother. They took a teenager growing into a troubled home and left the source of troubles with the mother, who was of course left to her devices with no help and the brother to keep getting drugs without help for rehab. The brother almost killed her mother while I was working for my employer.
And of course, no one helped my employer, no one would adopt or foster care a 15yo who didn't even need to be there, because it was the other sibling who should have been taken to a rehab center.
Someone can be a mother but not a mom. Two different things.
Very true! As a survivor of childhood abuse, I have to keep very quiet about what happened to me because people don't understand this basic principle and refuse to believe that not all parents are loving - and then they accuse me of "fantasizing" if I tell my story. Trouble is - me staying silent, enables abusers to abuse others...
tbh this is very true
Both mother and mom literally mean the same thing. Mom is a contraction of mother initiated by the child because it's simpler to say.
Right! Just like a father and a dad.
@@LittleKitty22 right. The only way this stuff can be prevented is if we speak out about it. The more everyone knows about child abuse, the easier it is to spot it. I really like to think younger generations are letting go of that victim blaming mentality.
She could drop the charges right? Like she knew that her daughter getting kidnapped was the best thing that could've happened to her. There's no way she would want these people punished for saving her kid
Umm.. I don’t have any legal expertise but I would imagine the State/County/Fed Court would want to punish the illegal act of kidnapping. The act itself is illegal and did irreparable harm to the bio mom ( even if she wasn’t fit to be a mom at the time) so…somebody gotta do the time for that
I don't think that's possible since they are criminal charges... Especially concerning a minor.
But she could have signed over custody and parental rights at any time and this wouldn't have been a problem
I don’t think she could because it’s federal crime
As others have said, because this would be criminal (rather than a misdemeanor,) the choice to press charges or not press charges would be up to the authorities (in Canada it would be the Crown Attorney, I'd guess the US has something similar.)
Honestly, as someone who was a victim of a crime as a minor in the US, I'm not sure. In my case, I had to press charges, the police couldn't arrest him until I pressed charges, and I couldn't do it on my own until I was legally an adult. I think they could potentially get the charges dropped, but I'm not sure, my case wasn't quite the same.
When the biological mother said I thought she was dead... Speaks so many words... That just tells us she didn't even look for her... Even though this was a kidnapping it's also a blessing in disguise.. .... You know the saying... Everything happens for a reason
They let a woman believe her child was dead . That's cruel.
@@kristingallo2158 What's cruel is leaving a child that can't feed or take care of itself outside of your apartment and then not even bothering to look for it or face consequences out of self preservation.
@@xXxTearsForgottenxXx That's when you're supposed to call the police and not walk away with a child.
@@kristingallo2158 but the system for adopting kids or fostering them is broken. Most of the time, they end up in abusive households regardless. Better for them to be raise forever lovingly by someone who finds them then the government system that makes the kids suffer regardless
@@kristingallo2158 so you rather them call the authorities so she can be put in foster care which from what I’ve heard is no better than being abandoned??? You see what they did when they found out even though it was clear she was fine with it
HOUSE never would have snitched, he would have thought outside of the box.
Even with the circumstances it's absolutely wrong to take Gabi away from the people who raised her in my opinion. They're perfectly capable parents and staying with them is likely what's best for her.
Can they still raise her if their in jail?
Nope
They didn't raise her, they were neglecting her. They weren't perfectly capable parents. She's lucky that her circumstance of the kidnapping wasn't malicious. Obviously you shouldn't scoop kids up and take them if you just feel like it, but it's not right to let something bad happen in front of you if you know you can do something to help.
@@justmagdalenadownhere I wasn't referring to the kidnapping, I meant that taking her away from the people that DID raise her (for example if they went to prison) wouldn't be what's best for her.
@@Tottosmile ahh, my mistake. I didn't realise. Apologies if I sounded argumentative, I was just incredibly confounded.
There's no way, as a family court judge, I could hear of this couple being sentenced to jail time. The child was critically neglected, and would have floundered in the system, had she even made it that far.
The couple, whilst they technically broke the law, did not cause net harm.
Then you don't know the justice system. It's a disgusting pool of people
Family court judges don't sentence people. Criminal court judges do.
And the couple caused untold harm. Kidnapping a child when they could have informed the authorities - the child could have gone into the foster system and either been legally adopted by real adoptive parents, or placed with reliable family members of her mother.
Lying to the child about her identity for years. Not telling her that she's "adopted" would be bad enough even in a situation where there's actually an adoption. Adopted kids who get told when they are old enough to remember being told overall do worse than adopted kids who have always known.
That breach of trust not only came later in life, it came when the child was in the hospital awaiting a liver transplant. That would terrify an adult, how much more would it terrify a child.
If you see a kid being harmed, you call the authorities. You do not play judge, jury and executioner. You call the authorities. They have the legal right to remove children from harmful situations. You don't.
@@TheYasmineFlower But if the said child and her biological mother don't want to press charges as it looks like in the video what happens then?
@@fab4809 Its not actually up to the bio mom to press charges, the government can do so if they want to.
@@fab4809 bro this isn’t assault it’s literally kidnapping
They didn't do the legal thing, they did the right thing.
I’d love to see it in court. It falls under the legal definition of “kidnapping” but the jury would most likely see it as rescuing.
I actually know a family who was in a situation like this. All they had to do was ask for permission, get it in writing, and it was no big deal.
Exactly why didn't they just claim she was a "Doorstop Baby"?
Then they wouldn’t be able to use the biological mom as a donor
You still can't just keep a baby because it appears on your doorstep. You need to file a report and go through the proper channels to foster/adopt the baby. It's not like finding a stray kitten and taking it home.
@@KatLuff Your supposed to register those too.
I'm more bothered by the fact that no one else in that apartment building had even bothered to help before the couple took her. Who knows the neighbors and building manager had probably called CPS dozens of times and nothing ever came from it. The neighbors were probably relieved when they saw that baby with the couple and knew she was being properly taken care of
Exactly. It's not possible the baby cried only that one time. They must have heardher cry so many time before they did what they did. Atleast they tried to help other people in the building didn't even bother to check up on the poor child
What's right isn't always legal. (And what's legal isn't always right.) This couple might not have acted within the bounds of the law, but what they did was absolutely the right thing.
I’m glad the kidnapping was well-intentioned and it benefited/saved the girl’s life but they should have called CPS and foster to adopt while they prepare to go to court
Perhaps. But then again if you knew anything at all about the foster system, CPS and what kids go through then you wouldn’t be saying this.
Cps and foster care come with trauma and abuse 98% of the time
@@darkopz you are 100% correct. In a perfect world calling CPS would’ve been a good thing but in reality if they called CPS they wouldn’t of been able to save that baby. Either they wouldn’t do anything or they love taking kids out of homes just to put them in abusive ones, or after the Parent does some stupid classes they get their kid back and a week later you see the kid dead on the news. I think what they did was the correct way to save her. CPS woulda just left her for dead…
I wouldn’t trust CPS with my dog. That whole system is so corrupt that chances are they wouldn’t even want to see the case and bring the kid back to her mom. Just recently they refused to take 3 or 4 other children from a mom who have had let her mentally I’ll daughter starve and rot to death. And the mom was arrested. No thanks I would rather take the chance of jail time over any possibility that, that child could be abused in anyway.
@@honeyspice8989 Yep. I would have done the same exact thing. CPS can rot for all I care. If I could raise that baby on my own so she could grow up happy, safe, and healthy. I'll take my chances.
This is not how you aid a patient. This is not how a donor is introduced.
You certainly don't arrest the family she's known in front of them in such a critical condition when they are not a threat. If you have to, you get them away from the patient out of sight where the patient's condition is not at risk of becoming worse from stress. The doctor ignoring Gabbie's demand that the biological mother be made to leave her room is a huge red flag. Whoever wrote this did an appaling job.
I agree. They are always harping on “respecting the patient’s wishes” in every other episode but when a child says she wants the bio mom out of her room you hesitate and try to convince her to stay? Pure BS
@@LibertBelle-dl6xp Well the bio mom is technically still the legal guardian and her "parents" stole her and lied to multiple government agencies including schools.
@@kristingallo2158 Literally in other episodes they’ve made parents leave their actual children. This lady didn’t even raise her daughter. She has no right.
@@Ba-kt6ju she has her parental rights , these people illegally snatched her.
@@Ba-kt6ju you have no rights to take random people's children. At least without notifying authorities
It's not as if they took her as she was playing on a playground all healthy, and being well taken care of.. they rescued her from a sure death. Much blessings to them for that..
Lol in our country, the parents who took care of the kid will never be charged. And the drug addict would be charged for child neglect, and drug possession (if she is still doing it).
Everybody knows the foster care system here is almost non-existent, even the police. They can't fault the new parents for taking care of the child. Better than the kid living in the streets.
No, but in the US both parties could be charged. The parents could be charged for kidnapping and the bio mom could receive neglect charges. One probably wouldn’t be pushed without the other in the US.
I agree with you from a moral standpoint, but legally both are at fault. However, considering the birth mother probably wouldn’t go stand in court and speak against the parents, the parents probably wouldn’t speak against her out of fear she may retaliate so honestly I’d say no charges would be filed. If there were, chances are no convictions would take place unless they were probation like plea deals. Just my opinion from dealing with the US’s justice system. Ofc I’ve not dealt with a situation like this and I’m not a professional.
@@virgie4715 you hit pretty much on the head the biological mother could also just say she let them take care of her daughter cause she wasnt fit and it make it hard for charages to stick and it also depends on where in the states it happens and if the DA want to press for it then all they both could probably beat the charges with a jurry
In my mind the only person who did wrong was the mother. She basically abandoned her child. She left a baby Outside her apartment. No why she thought her daughter was dead. Because she would have been if that couple didn't take her. No I don't think this is common and the legal way around things are there for a reason. But going the legal route is not always what's best for the child. At this stage in life they should really be looking at the child and what is best for her. And I say what's best for her is to stay with the parents who raised her and saved her life they gave her a life. Her daughter looks like she was loved and well taken care of. I don't see why the biological's mother's feelings or well being should be taken into account at All.
That said they probably should have tried to go over the legal route and report the mother. However the risk were doing that is, They may lose the child too. They obviously cared a lot about her, And the system has a lot of problems that keep kids from going to actual loving families. There are 2 strict in some areas in not strict enough in others.
@@wimsylogic65 In a criminal case (which I'm assuming this would be), the jury has the right (jury nullification) to choose a verdict with their heart. If most of them have morals, I'm sure the parents would be fine.
They didn't kidnap her, they took in an abandoned child. Only thing they're at fault for is not reporting it to the police to possibly keep her legally.
This is why the justice system fails us on a daily basis.
Hard to say, because if the kidnappers had just called CPS them none of this mess would have happened.
The system might not be perfect, but the system will definitely fail 100% of the time it isn't used.
@@rsrt6910 I wouldn't trust CPS in America with a goldfish!!!
@@The_New_IKB But we don't know if that's the case here, and since it was never addressed we can't make assumptions.
@@rsrt6910 cps would not have just given the child to that couple. They probably wouldn't have gotten her at all. That girl would have continued to suffer while the due process took forever to do anything to save her
She never reported her missing, she probably a few years after cleaned herself up, but was ashamed and afraid. She wanted to thank the couple who took her child, I hope she dropped charges unless that’s a federal thing and unavoidable
I can understand where the bio mom is coming from. She was in a bad place and neglecting a helpless baby on a regular basis. Without the "adoptive" parents' (illegal) intervention, Gaby would've likely either died from neglect or spent her whole life bouncing in foster care with CPS breathing down her and her bio mom's neck, threatening to take the child away at every possible misstep. This way, bio mom got clean, got on her feet, and saved herself. And her daughter was still alive. It was probably one of the best case scenarios for everyone involved, in the most heart-shattering way.
This was not kidnapping, what they did was rescuing. I know people who’s parents were god awful drug addicts and brutal alcoholics. To take a child the way they did and give her a life where she’s not exposed to such a toxic world is an act of heroism.
It’s crazy, I went to college with the cousin of that girl who got kidnapped when she was a baby and then found out years later, her name was Kamiyah Mobley. He was devastated, we literally were just all kicking it one night when he got the phone call that his aunt had been arrested for kidnapping.
The fallout from what that woman has done is so huge. :/ I hope he was able to cope with it.
She deserved real prison time, after what she did to that family. But not being sided, but it appears she was better off, bc her birth mother continued to have more babies n stay impoverished n dad amounted to nothing. I wonder how she’s doing now
So this is a true story don't care if she was kidnapped what the boligoical mother did is unacceptable the mother and father should not have been given a second chance if you can not Take care of baby you don't deserve to be a parent
It’s a small world. My mom was very close with the parents of the woman who kidnapped Kamiyah. I knew them all my life. I’ll never forget the day that my mom’s friend called to tell my mom that her daughter was in prison for kidnapping Kamiyah. My mother screamed like someone had died. We were so shocked and couldn’t understand why she did it! My mom still checks on her mother.
@@kerijbush such a small world! but he was such a sweet and funny kid. I hope he’s doing alright. His EAP family sends love and well wishes his way.
The fact (idr his name) the Asian doctor scoffed at her wanting to thank them just...like...did he not pay attention to the story of *why* they took her?
Hr couldn't believe this woman has clarity even after all the drugs she took.
He is very much a holier than thou type of person
I believe his character has a bad history with fostering and adoption but also something about his birth mom???
1:51 the nurse has clearly made a mistake. It's never lupus
"I understood that reference."
*Pulls a bottle of Vicodin out of a Lupus textbook.*
*Vicodin intensifies*
Exactly my thought 😂
except for that one time
Actually Gaby would be grateful that they 'kidnapped' her, because otherwise she would've probably ended up either dying or in some messy situation like her mother growing up in the streets, they did save her future. And they also saved her from tons of trauma too.
Actually, you don’t know what a real “Gaby” would feel because you did not share this experience….or did you?
@@cakhuxel You don't have to grow up to a drug addict single mother in the streets to know how it would (most likely) end up since there are hundreds of examples around you so you can see how it usually turns out to be, even if she collected herself later in life, she would have a decent amount of childhood trauma. Neglectful parents and unfiting growing environment make traumatized children it's common sense.
Everyone understood that they saved that girl. Even the mom and the girl.
They could have reported to child services and legally adopted her
They shouldn’t go to jail for saving a child
They're not, they're going to jail for not calling CPS.
@@rsrt6910 Why do you feel the need to reply to every comment that uses the word "Saving" instead of Kidnapping?
All they are saying is that while technically yes it is kidnapping, it was justified in a way. Sure the couple could have gone about it in a different way that probably would have ended with the Bio mom getting arrested for endangering the wellfare of a child, but either way they *saved* that girl.
The Bio mom said the same thing at the end of this clip and even wanted to thank them for it.
@@Princess_DYS Why do you feel the need to redefine the word kidnapping because it's for a good reason?
@@rsrt6910 Why wouldn't I? They saved that child and the Bio mom even said it and wanted to thank them for it.
@@Princess_DYS Because the use of a symbolic language has allowed humans to communicate mistakes and successes across space and time. But if we continually try to "redefine" what words mean because we don't like whatever emotional baggage it comes with, then we loose the ability to learn from our mistakes and doomed to repeat them.
Sometimes, doing the wrong thing, for the right reasons, is the best choice at that time. She would have ended up in foster home. Adoption takes a long time, and is expensive. There will be a lot more children abandoned , or left in bad situations, now that Roe is overturned.
The fact that even the mother agrees she would have died and that they saved her will go a long way to reduce any sentence they possibly get.
I hope they had a plan to get shared custody at the end of the episode... this is heartbreaking
i feel bad for the girl her life was literally torn apart!!
The doctors didn’t care about her health 100% once they knew about the situation. Her birth mother knew she didn’t care if her child was killed or what. They could’ve brought them all together and discussed it before calling the cops smfh now all the child knows is gone and she’s left in a hospital by herself dieing smfh
Um legally they have to immediately call the cops 😂
@@alanaarnold7612 I’m aware of the legal responsibilities but how many times have they found a way to go around that for other situations . Even the mother didn’t want them arrested she even wanted to meet them and thank them .
They're mandated reporters. Every bone in their body was telling them not to report, but they can go to prison for failing to report a kidnapping.
@@GalaxyGal- but if no body tells and no one involved would have any reason to do so, that's a risk I would take
@@The_New_IKB that’s a risk that can actually make you lose your license though
If they didn't take her, she very well could have died. CPS probably wouldn't have helped either. It's sad that they called it kidnapping, but they saved her life
These are loving parents. They deserve a medal!
It’s just a tv show calm down.
I kind of hate that the doctors dont see ut from the parents view. Yes, its kidnapping, but if its to effectively save the child's life, is it that bad? The only other option was calling CPS, and we all know how that ends.
Legally required in hospitals. They are mandated reporters, same with teachers too.
When I read the title, I was like why would you kidnap a child. Then I watched the clip and was like they were trying to help her and give her a better life. Now how they did it is not right. They could have called the cops and reported her. And then adopted her
The issue is that they would probably would not have been allowed to adopt her because they too were poor, otherwise they wouldn’t be living in the same building as some junkies.
They didn't kidnap her. They saved her! No argument. And clearly the bio mom didn't miss her
Wtf were they expecting when they tried to introduce bio mom to the kid, hugs and kisses?
For anyone commenting they did the right thing and its not really kidnapping, thank God this is a show. In the real world, if anyone is in this situation, a biological parent can willingly sign over their rights to someone they choose. It doesn't cost a lot and its legal.
And it can't be done for felons imprisoned for kidnapping a child. Moot point.
@@TheYasmineFlower Bring the baby in, call CPS, once it all goes through legally, adopt her. Not just keep her.
It’s a show. And they probably went down that round because it’s what leads to the bio mom figuring out she’s on a bad path. Her thinking her daughter died is what leads her to cleaning herself up probably. It’s also why she probably wanted to thank them. It’s true they could have gone down the route you’re mentioning. But for the sake of the episode let’s say she does that but doesn’t clean up her left as a result. Now there is no donor. The shock of thinking her child probably died while in truth she was kidnapped is what leads her down a path to recovery from being an addict. It’s also how she’s probably able to save her daughter. Still not saying it was the right thing but for the plot of the episode it’s what the went with.
That’s the girl from the Chi
I will never understand why media still portrays adoption like this. Yes they didnt do the paperwork but they’re her parents. As an adopted person I’ve NEVER seen an accurate portrayal of the reality of adoption EVER
This isn’t legal adoption so you should NOT compare it to your own.
It wasn't an adoption of course its not accurate. They stole a baby. Good or bad intentions, this is NOT adoption of any sort lol
This is not adoption, it's kidnapping.
As a adopted person I agree
if you're experiencing motherhood recently, this hits hard
Imagine if kidnapping involves raising someone else’s children in supportive homes and families and receiving all the love like this, I would’ve been thanking them too🤷🏾♀️
The character of the doc who expressed surprise that the birth mother wanted to thank the couple who took the child does not understand addiction, or more importantly, recovery. Leaving the child unattended in a hallway while getting high is the selfish part of addiction. Recognizing the importance of the life saving action of the couple who TOOK her child is a symptom of the generosity that may be found in recovery--and thinking of others before you think of yourself. To me, the birth mother's reaction (now in recovery) was perfectly normal.
So stirring! And the portrayal of wonderful Doctors diagnosing rare (I hope ! ) conditions ! Their devotion to healing , no matter what , proves they’re real Vets !
Some people aren't meant to be parents.
The stigma of abortion among minorities is huge and hurtful.
Drugs, alcohol, mental disorders...
They can and will hurt, kill and destroy a child growing up.
Just because this woman In the episode got clean, doesn't mean it's possible for others.
THIS
That doesn't mean the child doesn't deserve to live...if life is tough doesn't mean we should simply die. Choosing to kill a baby because it's life may be tough is wrong choosing to commit suicide because life got hard is wrong. The child still deserves to live.
@@ashleiw6376 I would agree with this, if the adoption system wasn't terrible. So, you either need to get rid of it while it's still just a clump of cells, you can hope someone's willing to take your baby, put it into a system that'll fail them because, for better or for worse, anyone can adopt a child and there's many stories of children being in and out of foster homes because someone was abusing them, or, you can take care of it yourself while you're either trying to finish school, trying to keep your company floating, working out a relationship, or trying to get sober, which can lead to unintentional neglet because for one reason or another you had a baby when you weren't ready.
wow just minorities need abortions ?
@@zecardinadraws I'm not going to read any of that because none of it matters to whether or not it should get to live. I do agree however our systems to support young mothers struggling mothers or even systems to protect kids from bad situations adoptions foster care cps etc all need to be worked on and fixed so why don't we all stop acting like fools protesting the right to kill babies and start fighting for a better system to handle those born to mothers who don't want them or can't take care of them or have mental health issues and let's fight for a better system to handle children from abusive households a better system for handling them foster care and adoptions better training and regulations for cps that's what we should be discussing. I do not believe it's a clump of cells and I'm not about to have that debate I believe our system fails mothers and children's and even fathers but none of those are excuse enough to end it's life it's potential it's possibility to live and become something great ending it's unique genetic code of what eye color it has what hair color how tall it will be etc all because it may be inconvenient tough difficult... I live in a state where late abortions are available and it's disgusting I used to be pro choice because in my opinion whoever has an abortion has to live with the guilt and if they are religious and if there is a God then they will face their judgment one day and it's not for me to force them to make the right decisions. However the extreme side of this pushed further and further to where now in some states like mine late abortions are available and even if the mother gives birth unexpectedly early when she had a planned abortion scheduled with their doctor a discussion between the mother and doctors can be had on whether to make the child comfortable give it up for adoption or keep it at that point and because of these disgusting state bills on this I no longer believe this should be a choice individually and I speak up for it being wrong altogether now
was just watching The Chi.. and wow.. and was surprised to see "Jemma" from the show as the girl
This nurse has the most beautiful hair I have ever seen!
Even if they did technicality kidnapp her they probably an honestly saved her life there is a chance she would have died being left out for hours on end. But I'm happy the mother was able to get back on her feet. An try an be In her daughter's life, along with the fact she was grateful for the couple for giving her daughter the life she deserved.
She left the baby in the hall for someone to take pity on the poor thing and do what she knew she wasn't capable of doing.
Yeah, she should thank them. And no charges pressed.
The only thing they need to understand is the parents was telling the truth 💯 "we saved her life"
They had the right intension, but what they did was wrong
My parents (both bio; male and female) have never used drugs except for medical reasons, have always kept their alcohol levels to a minimum, and have raised my siblings and me with love, care, and understanding.
I have never really known what abuse was until a certain age when I learned about it in school and it still shocks me to my core about the different types a person may have to go through in their day-to-day lives. My parents taught us that we always have to be weary of danger and know the world around us, otherwise we will just be putting ourselves in situations we do not want to be in. I am scared of dating at the age of 28 because I don't know what is going through a person's head whether they are male, female, trans, binary, or non-binary.
I don't have the words to offer comfort or reassure anyone commenting or viewing this video that the world is a kind place because the truth is *it is not*. And it may never be a kind or pleasant place, even to those like me.
All I can say is, I am so sorry for all you have been through. Each and every single one of you who has gone through abuse and survived day-to-day without losing yourself to the pain and the depression are much stronger than anyone can ever give you credit for. Including me.
God knows I wouldn't be able to stand abuse without losing myself in the process.
I thank each and every single one of you for the bits and pieces you provide by sharing your stories with the world and for being so brave to share your individual experiences. All of you.
Sarah, you probably need therapy. Dating is a wonderful thing even if you don’t end up marrying the guy. Of course you have to take certain precautions and it’s usually safer to date someone who have friends in common with you or whose background you know.
Okay this is insane. The cops arrest the couple who saved a little girl's life, gave her a home, and are raising her like their own daughter?
The adoptive mother was so beautiful.
Obvious in this case why the girl doesn't want her birth mother but it's sad in cases where a new born was stolen from the hospital and though raised loving, mightl never form a proper bond with their bio parents who did nothing wrong.
Something similar happened. A missing baby was found as an adult man. His grandparents kidnapped and raised him a state away because his parents were drug addicts.
kidnapping is bad but at least they had a good reason
Many years ago, people took in a raised a child who was in need of being taken care of. That NEVER would have been considered kidnap
It ain’t kidnapping if you’re saving them from a horrible life
Yeah... uhm... weather you like the term or not, it's STILL kidnapping.
by definition it is,doesnt matter whether is right or wrong
They SAVED that little baby. Honestly i would've done the same thing again and again!
Ive learnt one thing in my 20-years of life;
*Family isnt always blood-related.*
You could be family with people who have no shared genes with you.
Its not all about blood-relations and biological bonds.
Because sometimes, those blood-relatives of yours could be the *END OF YOU.*
They didn’t do anything wrong but they could’ve legally went about it. Reported the mother, put Gabbie into the system, and then adopted her legally.
Dad is AB, daughter is O, he cannot be her father.....this is exactly how I found out my "dad" wasn't my dad, we did blood testing in High school biology class.. My brother and I (middle kids of 8 children) are both O. best news I ever got!!!!!
Well the last part say a lot about what type of a "parent" you had, and I understand you perfectly, unfortunately mine was biologically, but in every other way was a soul torturer.
for me my dad has AB, my mom has O and I have O and per the paternity test I made my parents do after my high school science teacher said my dad wasn't my dad and I came home bawling my eyes out. I am 99.83% my fathers daughter. it's not impossible just unlikely. According to the DR. when we went to do the paternity test he said that since my mom's O it would be extremely rare if one of my siblings was AB, we should all be either A, B or O not AB, course out of 5 kids we have 2 AB, 1 B,1 A and 1o
@@rexandmax So my uncle is AB and my late aunt was O. The older of their two children is O like their mother and he is indeed his dad’s child. Their youngest is B so she got the B from his AB.
My dad is A+, my Mum O-... My older sister & my younger sister are both O+ & I, the middle child, am A+... We are all my Dad's... Blood groups don't necessarily negate parentage...
They should've said that they found her on their door step.
Dr Charles knows something is wrong just by looking at you 🤣🤣🤣 or simply just passing by you,, he’ll notice something isn’t right ..
Why didn’t the couple call CPS? They obviously would’ve removed the child, and if there was already a couple willing to have her placed with them, CPS probably would’ve allowed it, right?
This shows idea of right and wrong is so twisted. This isn’t the only Episode that has demonstrated this. It’s infected with a twisted ideology.
No man can ever understand a real mamas heart & true connection
Free these people, they saved a child from death or worse things
That’s Jemma from the Chi
I feel they technically didn’t kidnap her but instead saved her
Unfortunately this happens more then most people like to think!
Do no harm, they said.
This episode is heartbreaking for Gabby, and the parents she knew and loved.
This had me in tears because i have seen children who have suffered by the hands of drug addicts. So i could only imagine what these people were trying to save her from
Honestly her mom threw her out, the couple rescued an abandoned child.
However they should have gone the legal route, reported it and requested to legally adopt her
what a situation!!! When nobody is at fault but everybody suffers.....
kudos to all involve for this scene. I hope there are people such as this couple in real life.
Wow...this one hit ALL the feels.
I’m not condoning kidnapping but these parents did a good thing raising her
Props to the bio mom seeing them as heros for saving her daughter.
9:43 Dr. Choi: bewildered.
Me: Makes perfect sense.
I think the parents did the right thing in this situation