Kyle Kulinski vs Sam Harris on Hamas 😮

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
  • Armin reviews a video by Kyle Kulinski from Secular Talk, where Kyle critiques Sam Harris' views on Hamas. Kyle argues that labeling Hamas as a jihadist organization lacks nuance, claiming their goals differ from groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda. However, Armin fiercely defends Harris, asserting that Hamas' jihadist actions qualify them as such, regardless of their specific aims.
    Armin emphasizes that Harris' comments on torture are often misrepresented. He explains that Harris explores moral dilemmas, not endorsing torture, but examining scenarios where it might be considered to save lives. This nuanced discussion is simplified and misunderstood by Kyle, according to Armin.
    The crux of the debate is Harris' characterization of Hamas. Kyle downplays their jihadist nature, but Armin counters, highlighting that engaging in jihad makes them a jihadist group. He criticizes Kyle for seemingly defending Hamas and stresses the importance of accurate terminology in these discussions.
    Watch as Armin breaks down Kyle's arguments and staunchly supports Sam Harris' views on Hamas. This clash of perspectives offers a deep dive into the complexities of labeling and understanding terrorist organizations.
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Комментарии • 104

  • @AtheistRepublic
    @AtheistRepublic  19 дней назад +6

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  • @ryanalexander8212
    @ryanalexander8212 19 дней назад +58

    Kyle: Hamas doesn’t want to spread global jihad.
    Hamas: Yes we do.

    • @Superplatanoman
      @Superplatanoman 13 дней назад

      when did they say that? lol and why havent they? i mean do you have to believe the most ridiculous things. they are only 20k member group maybe less

  • @liatsotto1378
    @liatsotto1378 19 дней назад +35

    Sam Harris is great! He understand the danger of Islam, he is a realist and knows the history better than most people. He is the best outspoken liberal I heard for a long time.

    • @prometheusunbound
      @prometheusunbound 19 дней назад

      Yeah who owns armin who owns the banks who owns USA 😮 stfu

    • @angelbrother1238
      @angelbrother1238 17 дней назад

      Harris is a moron and a punching bag for theists . He was annihilated by William lane craig . The fact that he believes that you can arrive at objective moral values through atheism shows how truly delusional he really is .
      Oh wait , I’m on an atheist channel now
      Oops 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @haroldwood1394
    @haroldwood1394 19 дней назад +15

    Harris has been consistently insightful on the Hamas issue. His recent discussion with John Spencer on urban warfare is extraordinarily informative.

  • @GrouchierThanThou
    @GrouchierThanThou 19 дней назад +6

    Kyle has completely lost the plot. Especially on the war in Gaza.

  • @user-ro2iw8rz6t
    @user-ro2iw8rz6t 19 дней назад +18

    Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie.

    • @lesweizman388
      @lesweizman388 19 дней назад +6

      which is always
      WITHOUT LIES ISLAM DIES

    • @lujainot5495
      @lujainot5495 19 дней назад

      taqiyya is shia islam no sunni islam

  • @fritznovak4482
    @fritznovak4482 19 дней назад +28

    Wow! Kyle Kulinski is an idiot? I’m shocked.

  • @eddieheron1939
    @eddieheron1939 19 дней назад +5

    Harris does NOT end his phrase with “full stop”, he then elaborated his point.

  • @coffeeman12345
    @coffeeman12345 19 дней назад +4

    For the record late Hitchens was in support of a Palestinian state he was just critical of a lot of Palestinian group being Stalinist, Baathist, or Islamist.
    Just like he was critical of the equivalent on the Israeli side.

    • @lesweizman388
      @lesweizman388 19 дней назад

      for the record, hitch was seduced by the lying, academic fraud, edward said
      there are no equivalents on the israeli side

    • @ferriveiro3101
      @ferriveiro3101 9 дней назад +1

      I believe you're right. Hitchens wrote an article called "How Hamas dooms Palestine". I wondered how he would interpret events playing out before us.

    • @coffeeman12345
      @coffeeman12345 9 дней назад

      @@ferriveiro3101 It’s almost too bad there’s no after life for the Hitch to come bad from to give us his thoughts on the current Israel 🇮🇱- Gaza 🇵🇸 conflict and its repercussions in the rest of the world.🌎

    • @coffeeman12345
      @coffeeman12345 9 дней назад

      @@ferriveiro3101 I’m gonna look for that article.

  • @grichard1585
    @grichard1585 19 дней назад +9

    0:58 ... yeah, they will throw you under the bus if you so much as drop a gum wrapper.
    Kyle has MAYBE 1/4 the intellect of Hitchens or Harris, but he can sit there and just dismiss them.

  • @jaialaiwarrior
    @jaialaiwarrior 17 дней назад +3

    Thank you Armin for this long-needed takedown of Kyle the caliphate apologist. I can't believe i used to enjoy his domestic political rants but after October it became evident just how miserable these "ji hadis for justice" really are. Progressive like Kyle come from an alternate universe and are deliberately ignorant of the cultures, causes and events they purport to explain.

  • @liatsotto1378
    @liatsotto1378 19 дней назад +10

    Sam Harris is the opposit of simplistic!

  • @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen
    @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen 19 дней назад +8

    👏🙂
    Its disappointing how many secular people turned on Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens. I don't deny you can have some disagreements but this completely blanket disregarding of their work and beliefs is very disrespectful and disingenuous.
    Great work Armin and thanks for bringing some sanity to this polarized/confused discourse propagated by strange progressives*, commies, tankies and right wingers.

  • @Shva927
    @Shva927 19 дней назад +13

    Sam Harris is the most articulate, well read, experienced, knowledgeable man walking on earth that has this much knowledge about religion.
    I don't know how one can listen to his opponent and then him and infer as to him being wrong.
    He literally crushed Peterson's and many others' arguments.
    As a hindu, I would say, he is one of the few men in the West who really have understood Hinduism.
    As an atheist , he should be the idol for atheists, in debating.

    • @Gsd112
      @Gsd112 19 дней назад +1

      Agreed

  • @jaialaiwarrior
    @jaialaiwarrior 17 дней назад +2

    When Kyle refers to Hamas' "nuance and complexity" he's basically saying that their slick lies, rationalizations and deceptions work on him.

  • @massdebation
    @massdebation 19 дней назад +4

    You two should debate

  • @Knight766
    @Knight766 19 дней назад +1

    There is no public intellectual or internet critic that comes even close to Harris and Hitchens.

  • @spidercuzz
    @spidercuzz 18 дней назад +1

    Armin you are great, thank you for providing a voice of sanity against these crazy takes

  • @Gsd112
    @Gsd112 19 дней назад +1

    Thank you for calling out the hypocrisy Armin!

  • @MohsenAbbasgholi
    @MohsenAbbasgholi 19 дней назад +1

    Thanks 😊😊❤

  • @arijoseph2282
    @arijoseph2282 19 дней назад +2

    the best takedown of all time. thank you for doing this. I really hope he sees it.

  • @jonatan9142
    @jonatan9142 19 дней назад +7

    Kyle is the kind of intellect that says "Right?" at the end of each sentence. Never trust people who say "Right?" at the end of each sentence

  • @Dweesil
    @Dweesil 19 дней назад +2

    This video ended fast.........

  • @eddieheron1939
    @eddieheron1939 19 дней назад +4

    Of course, Harris remains a particularly wise and considerate human being, aware of political and religious nonsense and extremes.
    If there’s one thing Sam Harris is not, is “simplistic”, with his broad, intellectual considerations.
    [edited typos]

  • @cathyfourie3323
    @cathyfourie3323 19 дней назад +7

    What exactly is the complexity of hamas being a jihadist organisation? Kyle, dude, you don't know what you are talking about. Love your work Armin.

  • @Thenoobestgirl
    @Thenoobestgirl 16 дней назад

    Anyone else feel like this video was cut in half?

  • @robertcampomizzi7988
    @robertcampomizzi7988 19 дней назад +2

    Algorithm love!!!

  • @Tellezeus78
    @Tellezeus78 19 дней назад

    The side look with the “doing Jihad” lmao

  • @Gsd112
    @Gsd112 19 дней назад +1

    I really admire Sam Harris. I don’t agree with everything he says…or all that he believes in, but how can you possibly agree with everyone on everything? We are here to learn and share ideas and use critical thinking. This group think it what is wrong with the world right now. Sam is a prolific writer, a true feminist, empowers the voices of oppressed women. He’s incredibly intelligent, not simplistic. His book “The End of Faith” is one of the best books I’ve ever read.

  • @praetoriancorps
    @praetoriancorps 19 дней назад +1

    Lol, LEt the guy explain, then cut him off at the fist sentence and tell him he's leaving out complexity and detail?

  • @mna8936
    @mna8936 19 дней назад

  • @Hanginglimbs1
    @Hanginglimbs1 19 дней назад

    looks like Sugar Ray with a drinking problem

  • @cosmicsquid
    @cosmicsquid 19 дней назад

    Religion at its best, pure entertainment.

  • @SimplyPumpkins
    @SimplyPumpkins 19 дней назад +8

    For the last couple of years Kyle's takes have been getting more and more shitty. Its depressing because I really use to look up the the guys viewpoints

    • @mrharpable
      @mrharpable 19 дней назад

      Maybe you’re maturing

  • @Jurisdoctorsosh
    @Jurisdoctorsosh 19 дней назад

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @mrharpable
    @mrharpable 19 дней назад

    Never go full Britard

  • @aaronrodgers77
    @aaronrodgers77 11 дней назад

    What a weird hill for this Kyle guy to die on

  • @urielpolak9949
    @urielpolak9949 19 дней назад

    People can be soooo terrible. The dumb is of the charts while they are being all brainy wielding their version of reason. It gives me a hopeless feeling. Facts will not prevail. Facts will not sway people like kyle here

  • @nicholashaan7345
    @nicholashaan7345 19 дней назад +1

    I'm no fan of Harris, but is Kulinski what passes for an intellectual nowadays?

    • @someperson9999
      @someperson9999 18 дней назад

      No, he's a RUclips personality who talks about politics. He did do some political activism during the heyday of the Justice Democrats, which he co-founded, but has since been dissolved. Now he's closer to a political influencer, like Hasan Piker, than anything nowadays. He sort of became a hysterical dip shit after he started bleaching his brain.

  • @will._.x_.861
    @will._.x_.861 17 дней назад

    Yeah the bleach blonde is trying to get props by disagreeing with a great thinker such as Sam Harris. Also I agree with everything he said 🎉

  • @xtrajently
    @xtrajently 19 дней назад

    When one like Kyle, accuses Sam Harris of the lack of nuance, the word “irony”, doesn’t fully describe my attitude towards it.

  • @al27mr
    @al27mr 19 дней назад +3

    You know Krystal Ball, from breaking points. She married this guy. I used to like her… not so much recently… I wonder his role on it 🤣

    • @mrharpable
      @mrharpable 19 дней назад +1

      The grift that keeps on taking

  • @anthonymorris5084
    @anthonymorris5084 17 дней назад

    Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens are......dare I say, Gods.

  • @jool7793
    @jool7793 14 дней назад

    People like Kyle were born rich and have never lived in the real world.

  • @wegder
    @wegder 13 дней назад

    Hamas and progressives think exactly alike.

  • @MohsenAbbasgholi
    @MohsenAbbasgholi 19 дней назад +3

    عشقی ❤❤

  • @lesweizman388
    @lesweizman388 19 дней назад +1

    kulinski is a polish joke

  • @liatsotto1378
    @liatsotto1378 19 дней назад +1

    Who is this bleached guy?

    • @mohsen9763
      @mohsen9763 19 дней назад +5

      Kyle from the Secular Talk. He is a hardcore leftist.

    • @someperson9999
      @someperson9999 18 дней назад

      Draco Kulinski

  • @DDBb993
    @DDBb993 18 дней назад

    Kyle is gross. How is Sam even talking with this man, how did this happen.

  • @mrharpable
    @mrharpable 19 дней назад +1

    Americansplaining

  • @jonathaslopes8038
    @jonathaslopes8038 18 дней назад

    Is it me or every pro-palestinian is called by you " ignorant, just wrong , or anti-semitic" ?

    • @sodik2888
      @sodik2888 17 дней назад

      Because they actually are

    • @jonathaslopes8038
      @jonathaslopes8038 17 дней назад

      @@sodik2888 And Every pro-israeli is a amtisemitic nationalist. Arabs are semitic people too. Not to mention religious colonialists who think the west bank is theirs to settle as much as they want.

    • @anthonymorris5084
      @anthonymorris5084 17 дней назад

      It's because you folks spew false narratives. There is no such place called "Palestine". It's called Gaza. Palestine ceased to exist over a hundred years ago. It's clearly a political term use for political reasons to serve a political agenda.
      There is also no such thing as a "Palestinian". They are Arab. In fact both Jews and Arabs were Palestinian.

    • @angrykeyboardwarrior7833
      @angrykeyboardwarrior7833 15 дней назад

      Armin calls himself pro-Palestinian so...

  • @tech9110
    @tech9110 18 дней назад

    That's why you (Kyle Kinki) should not make your opinions about izlam, because only Ex-muslims knows izlam better than non-muzlims, like C.Prince, A.P, Armin Nawabi, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and etc. But there are only few non-muzlims who also knows izlam better, like Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and David Wood.

  • @BobvanT
    @BobvanT 19 дней назад

    Standing strong with Israel 💙💪🇮🇱

  • @sodik2888
    @sodik2888 17 дней назад

    He's so ignorant and arrogant

  • @danielthomas8507
    @danielthomas8507 19 дней назад

    I love everything about Sam except his bad case of TDS......😊

  • @SALS-rf9yy
    @SALS-rf9yy 19 дней назад

    Omg he’s so arrogant to even think he can give an opinion . Who is he to think he has a right to speak

  • @eddieheron1939
    @eddieheron1939 19 дней назад

    Of course, Harris remains a particularly wise and considerate human being, aware of political and religious nonsense and extremes.
    If there’s one thing Sam Harris is not, it’s “simplistic”, with his broad, intellectual considerations.
    [typos edited]