EQ's In Front - The Metal Experiment
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Testing out the tones of different EQ's in the front end of the 5150iii as opposed to the usual FX loop routing.
In order of placement on the pedalboard:
- Protone Gary Holt Boost
- Fortin Grind
- MXR 10 band (18v)
- MXR 6 band
- Master Effects EQFH
- Boss NS-2
- Master Effects PMEQ (FX Loop)
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Brother, I know you’re probably repeating yourself 1000 times when you get specific with each piece of equipment in the loop and each model number each brand but it’s really appreciated ❤
Tbf electronics chains are pretty technical and hard to remember. I have no problems with repeating the basics. Picked up so many shit habits over the years. Chop has probably the best tone tutorials I've ever come across
@@enijize1234 cheers to the shit habits 🍻 💩
MXR 10 band - versatile classic EQ and still, for me, the gold standard.
Cool comparison.
The tone for Angel of death sounded so good
used to run the 10 band eq in front my my el34 5150 with a pro co rat set to a "clean-ish" boost and crank the resonance with a full blown scoop on the EQ of the amp. Impossible Death Metal tones. Great video!
I know this is an old comment, but I'm just curious. Couldn't you just boost the volume of your 10 band instead of using the rat as a clean boost?
Nice one! EQs are easily one of the best tools for tone shaping. Why so many people ignore them is beyond me. They aren’t that difficult to use.
Lambchoppers a BEAST
I’m glad your feeling refreshed mate. Just remember when things start bogging down on your shoulders, take a some time off to recharge. We will be here.
Great to have you back LambChopper cant wait for some new covers 👊 tone at 9:50 btw is killler 👊
Sick, glad to see you are back making vids. Great set up.
I tend to use my 10 band Eq in front of the amp, but tend to use my 6 band through the FX loop. Turns my DSL100HR into sounding more Engl sounding and works with passive and active pick ups pretty well. Amazing how versatile EQs are.
Now we need a Capture Trivium since you played us some riffs, would be awesome to see!
you should definitely do triviums’ the crusade guitar tone since you played some entrance riffs🤘🏻
Starts with Seek and destroy, sounds great and I probably would have stopped right there lol. :)
10 band/OD808 and a 5150 is the gold standard for me. So much versatility with the tones whether in the FX loop or in front. Love it.
So excited to have you back! Keep ‘em coming
That tone at 9 minutes is fucking insane !
great to hear a Trivium song wohoo!! nailed the damn tone spot on as well as per! A helpful vid for tone shaping in general, thanks. You really highlight how EQs influence tone. You're inspiring me to start playing again!!!
Missed your videos so much man! These tone sculpting videos are amazing! Literally the most informative ever 🙏
Consistently bad ass chugs from Mr. LambChopper678!
I find these type of videos really relaxing.
I love the new set up!
i'm happy to see u back chopper. cheers from argentina
Great work again mate......you have loads more energy with your two latest videos.....the time away and the upgrades you've made have made a big difference to your videos........i really loved when you broke into that riff from Entrance to the Conflagration.......your knowledge with your gear and your playing is just top notch.....thank you for this amazing resource 🤘🤘🤘
Excelente video. Me compré mi segundo pedal eq gracias a ver como se logran distintos tonos aprendiendo de este genio. la verdad que es realmente útil poder tener este tipo de contenido. Saludos desde Argentina.
Dude! Youy know your way around an EQ. Amazing work. That was such a nice flex recreating the Fortin Grind with the MXR 10 band. That was damn close if not spot on. You did it so quick.
Really cool to hear you play some Trivium riff. Would love to see you cover some of their songs!
That EQFH is really good. I run one in front of my rg80, face melting indeed.
Loving the new setup mate! Great to have you back
Super glad you did this video! My next two pedals are a eq and noise gate so this was perfect timing
Love your work mate. Makes me want to pick up and play. Great channel 🤘🤘
Dude these are super appreciated, you are the reason why a bought a DSL20, Production values over the moon bro!
Truly a Professor of Guitar Gear
Crusade doesn't get enough love! Nice tones
First of wecome back brother. Love the Dean VMNT
Nailed that tone with a huge hammer!!
Great tone and pure energy. Yeees
You have some of the greatest sound equipment available on earth.
EQ in front is affecting your guitar's tone on the way in. What this means is that it allows you to specify exactly what frequency ranges you want to be distorted more or less than others. This is how you get a tight tone. Cutting lows reduces distortion on the low frequencies, giving you a punchy attack. Djent boys like to boost 1-1.5k aggressively to get saturation focused in the mids and cut lows to get that stringy, metallic sound.
An EQ out front is exactly what the BMT knobs are on a Mesa Mark series amp. Shape the tonal character with the pre-EQ, shape the tonal balance with post-EQ (in the loop or DAW)
It’s good to have you back, hope it feels good to be back
where bird at?
He’s got a girlfriend
Excellent video and great performance and explanation!
I have the MXR 10 band EQ and it’s a fantastic versatile tool to use it in front of my amps.
I place it after my drive section and before my delay and reverb. You can get killer tones!
Most underrated channel on RUclips
So glad you’re back man I love the vids
Hey Lambchopper good to see you back brother. I have the Marshall DSL 20 and I use the MXR EVH 5150 overdrive pedal followed by the MXR 10 band EQ in the front and an Electro Harmonix silencer. I have had a blast watching your vids. Thanks for the tips. BornNBred2RipNShred.
Welcome back!
It'd be interesting to see how each of those tones fits together in a mix.
Always have a re tweak in the mix
Thanks for all your efforts. For ages i used your tones on Bias effects. Master of puppets tone you created was my favourite.
So glad you are back. Start a patreon. We will pay for your skills. Trust me when I tell you this. You've got a great style and great gear and are a great guy. 3 "greats' in one sentence equals patreon.
Such a great video mate! I love watching your mind work as you find these tones. You always explain it so well. A wealth of knowledge. Some awesome tones you had there!. If you were on a budget and could only have 1 of those, what one would be your choice?
Excellent demonstration! I totally agree tailoring the frequency spectrum and level that hits the front end of the amp is a fantastic tool to get the tone you want, especially more unique tones you can't get any other way. I find it especially useful when I want one guitar/pickup combo to sound closer to another I use through the same rig (i.e. make my SG sound a lot closer to my Les Paul by boosting lows and low mids with an eq before the distortion stages of the rig). Slash, Dave Murray and of course Slayer all did the eq in front thing at some point.
Also, different EQ's will get different character and results, I've used the Boss GE-7, an old MXR 10-band with the plug, and a Mesa Five-band pedal. They all sound different even if you're trying to use the same frequencies, so it's valuable to get a collection of EQ pedals just as you would overdrives, because in front of the amp especially they can sound WAY different.
Hey Lamb, great vid as always, I tend to think the EQFH works better in the loop than in the front, tonally much more responsive. Never tried it myself, but thank you for exploring and sharing here.
What you’ve got dialed in when you play the Ashes in Your Mouth riff is nice a little fatter than the album but it sounds great. Those Mustaine Live Wires are probably the most versatile active pickups. They are awesome pickups.
Welcome back, good too see you again!
4:50 lets goooooo \m/ Once again pretty cool Video from the Master of EQs ;-)!
Facemelting video...🤘
So great having you back bro!
Great video as always. Awesome riffage, just churning out classics. 11/10 thumbnail too.
I love the Trivium riffs!
I think i've got to get myself an EQ...
would love to see you cover some DIssection & a craft a tone for it (rather than emulate the album tone which, obviously, you could too), it's not classic thrash or Maiden but something a bit different now and again might be coool.
Thanks Chopper.
Second Video asking for The Sick, The Dying and the Dead tone 💀
Agree 100%
Understand
Who wants to listen to that album let alone play it.
@@Mazdabater07 I have the Outro of the title song on a loop! ''Die! Die! Die!'' with Kiko's haunting solo behind. Soooo Good! Try it a high volume with good speakers. The guitars, the bass, the drums. Everything is sick! 100% old-school punk trash🤘
It's funny the Gary Holt EQ wasn't as nasty as usual with the stuff running in the loop.
Agreed
While EQ's are fun for home use, they're great in a band situation. Use it to shape the guitar to fit in a sonic space that's available. If you're fighting to be heard above a bass with lots of top end or a drummer with a bright kit, use an EQ. Get a long cable and go stand infront of the band like you're watching the band and dial in a tone.
Ironically, when you dial in a tone that fits the band like that, it nearly always sounds like ass when played on its own but when played with the band it'll sound like the best thing since sliced bread.
Amigo, es un gusto verte de nuevo, saludos desde Colombia.
mad respect on the evile riffs
I really like the look of Dave´s Dean model
and btw,
awesome improvised (I guess so, most of them, obviously not everything xD) riffs
Mike Valley decks on the wall ? Elephant skates ? Happy Halloween! That’s a wicked Dean !👻☠️🦇🐈⬛🎃
There are so many great albums but Van Halen's debut album has an awesome sound
what about prong have you listened to them would be cool to see a cleansing guitar tone video if you've listened to them
Great video dude,and playing some of my favourite trivium riffs 🤘
Nice sound got da say I like the Perimetric, the little fatter sound. I haven't tried the Perimetric thru the front of the amp, perhaps I'll try that.
When you were a/b-ing the grind and the 10 band the latter sounded tighter and with less shrill top end. I have the eq from hell and used to use a 10 band in the loop like 15 years ago. But now I’m sure I need to get a 6 and a 10 band mxr to run with the eqfh. Thanks man.
Being able to 4-cable with that Boss gate makes it a fantastic pedal.
When I bought my NS2 it was really popular to shit on it, every keyboard virtuoso was busy telling me the only pedal to get was the ISP Decimator. I found mine to be very versatile, subtle and transparent. It works for any kind of noise gate use case you need, from really choppy high gain stuff, to ultra clean playing where you would never know it was on until you turned it off.
People got all snobby about Boss, but they don't make bad pedals. I'll never sell my NS2 that I picked up cheap because everyone thought it was no good at the time.
Thank you for your time sir
Kinda addicted to using eqs as a boost myself pushing the front end of rack pres into a little extra distortion. I get more a cocked wah sound though. It adds that extra chunk to the likes of Peavey Rockmaster (onboard boost off) or Ada MP1.
Greetings mate. Ive always ran a cheap 7 band eq in my fx loop. I never knew about pedal based parametric eq until I ran acroll your other videos.. thanks for the info.
Good Day!
I may be weird but my favorite one is the EVH tone. I think I'm not into agressive very tight sounds.
Thanks man - I think you have definitely convinced me to pick up another EQ to push the front end of my 5150III - sounds amazing, which cab were you using in the torpedo?
Lamb, do you reckon you could EQ that setup to approach a Swedish chainsaw tone?
I just love the way that your have an ear for great tone mate. This EQ pedal broad that you have put together sounds really nice. And I could see that there wasn't that much different in tone with the grind pedal and the 10 band EQ pedal. I've got a Question for you. I know how much that you love to play Megadeth, Pantera, Metallica and Slayer, But my Question is do you have any of your own riffs that you may have put together and if so I'd love to hear you play them sometime.
Welcome back Anthony! Glad to see you well. I would love your take on a really solid general metal tone for down-tuning. I'm a huge black dahlia murder fan and they play in Drop C and C standard. I'm running roughly the set up you did in your master of puppets DSL video, and I find it sounds fairly flabby in the low end for me. I try to dial back the lower frequencies on the six band in the front but then it sounds hollow. Thanks mate!
Check Anthony's Children of Bodom (Alexi Laiho) tone match with the DSL20HR. You should be good to go with the down-tuning. Alexi played in D standard to Drop B with everything in-between.
@@Juicexlx wicked, thanks for the tip.
The bird is gone! He ate the bird!
Not the biggest megadeth fan BUT I loved hearing you play “Ashes In Your Mouth”. IMO that’s their second best song
Im curious now, whats the first?
@@stylz1312 holy wars of course lol
I would like to see a 31 band, the cool thing i would love about adding that to my rig is the ability to do a low cut and a high cut. I might get myself a Black Friday gift soon....!
Loved the video. Something new. Its nice
Instead of buying a new set of pickups, I purchased an EQ pedal. The tonal shift is really within my control.
Ha! The 1st Metallica album tone right-out of the gates! Sweet! :D
Edit: yep! The last pedal (red & white + 60bands EQ) had that cool Megadeth ''Ashes in Your Mouth'' tone. Not the re-mastered version. The original one.
I'd like to see you try to recreate Judas Priest's Screaming For Vengeance guitar tone. No one has a video about that and it's downright sad..
I caught that exodus by blood intro
Perfect as usual🔥
cool pedal board. i like the 10 band eq best. are you gonna get a chug pedal?
Can I recommend an idea? Get a looper pedal so that you can record a riff, then while it's playing you have both hands free for tweaking the knobs. Also it's less annoying to the listeners rather than striking open chords. But more importantly, you'll be able to dial it in so much easier without having to hold your guitar and strike a string, then turn a knob. I do this when I dial in amp sims, I record a riff and loop it so I am more focused on the sound
Thanks man, great idea
I dig it! Happy Halloween you Heathens!
I'm just starting to really play with the fx loop. I used to play stereo amps and didn't really have the option even.. plus I was a kid with not a bunch of money for cables anyway. The eq is a delicate, misunderstood, almost limitless pedal. Through the loop it seems like the effect is more dramatic whether or not that suits you ..
I prefer (if I have to choose one, instead of doing both) vol -eq-pitch and I love pre and post wah distortion and there's distortion in the loop too .. I keep a delay before and in the fx loop too. They have medication for this I think ..
Next metal experiment: Atypical boosts for high-gain amps. We've all heard Maxon OD-808s, Ibanez TS-9s, Boss SD-1s, MXR ZW-44s, the newer ones like the KSR Eros, Fortin Grind, Airis Savage, etc. I want to hear like a Boss BD-1, Nobels OD-1 a Klon Centaur and what they do tighten up an amp (or not tighten it.). Chances are that I'll stick to tube screamers, SD-1s and/or parametric EQ pedals.because I know they work for the sounds I want, but I also just want to try stuff out-or let you do it.
I have an Odr 1 and it’s an interesting tone pushing a mid-gain mesa rectifier, but maybe not as “metal” as other pedals.
Can you do one of these but through the effects loop and give us your input. Awesome video man.
hey, cool tone at 13.24, 😀, cheers
EQ's ON EQ's on EQ's
I've never had enough money to ever worry about any of this. I have a decent Japanese strat hhs, 40w blackstar combo amp and a cheap multi effects floor pedal.
you can find 3 to7 band eq pedals for cheap
Would love to see you cover the classic thrash band Razor - violent restitution tone,,it's very generic 80s, but man those palm mutes were brutal, from what I've read, Dave Carlo only used Roland cubes for that sound,,so he woulda been hitting the pedals big time,,tho I do think this album is Marshall,,,I mean the first track is even titled " the marshall arts…😉
Can’t wait to hear “CHUG” from Solar. 🎃
Cover some more Trivium stuff! :D
great video mate
i have always run a boss eq 1st thing from my guitar rite into the front of the amp, it added distortion like a screamer, but lots more gain and i could shape my tone with it a whole lot better, if you boost 800 hz it drasticly effects how easy pinch harmonics are to get, and you can control them , but you need a gate , of the whole rig will just scream with feed back