These REAL Hardwood Floors have a Ridiculously Cool Trick
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I remember seeing this a while ago on here when you were at IBS I think. I'm so glad this was a successful product with a few good years on it now. Another scenario I think this would work good with is wiring. You could frame the floor it in such a way that there's a removable strip of sub flooring perfectly under a row or two of hard wood. Giving access into the joist space for electrical or even plumbing. Good for finished basements or the 2nd floor if attic access is limited.
I really don't know if you'd want that removable subfloor to be parallel with the top floor. Maybe if it were in a lot traffic area?
IBS is no BS...just saying.
@@jaykrahl2407 irritable bowl syndrome?
@@marcob1729 That's pretty much how server rooms are built.
Great idea man 💯
Awesome book that gives you step-by-step photos ruclips.net/user/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt and directions to make every day project. I can see myself making a few of these projects and giving them as housewarming and holiday gifts!
Of all the great Build Shows this is for sure top 10. Keep bringing us the leading edge of home construction Matt.
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Riverdance, the flooring.
I needed that. Thanks LOL
How you can store the gold and the guns at your new home Mr. Wick.
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heh, that's where my mind went to immediately
Under Any and EVERY board...
Imagine if he was intoxicated when he put it under a board...
Now which one did I put that under now...
2 hours later...
Ultraviolet pen with a tiny marking to help you find it quickly.
This product floored me.
Price per ft
You find the coolest products. How do you handle rips against walls?
There's a 1/32" lift under the plank from the clips (7 sheets of printer paper), so when you rip you can shim it or leave it to sit on the floor next to the wall/rubber gasket. We also supply water-based sealant so that you can touch up fresh cut ends and maintain the seal on all sides!
@@StellerFloors awesome. Going to check you guys out.
You can install it with a Pogo stick. ;-) I remember the previous video - glad to see he's hit the market.
This product should revolutionize putting down hardwood floors time cost nails everything beautiful video love the new products
Not only that... the floors can be re-used!
This is actually pretty intuitive!
The was a random suggested video, but as a contractor I'm glad I came across this and going to start looking up the prices for purchasing. Shout out to the inventor also a s a fellow Pennsylvanian!
Very cool! I’m also a PA boy who married a Tx girl. Grew up in Pgh
Well...I know what I'm redoing my floors with.
My only concern is actually spills. Or if you had an older dog that peed a puddle at night and you didn't discover to the following day. A traditional floor has been sealed that seals the edges of the boards together (I understand this isn't perfect as well) I'd be worried a spill would quickly make it through the gaps. In other words it's a cool feature, but do you really want to pull out a suction cup every time a kid spills their milk? And it would always be more than one board removed even for a small spill. Cool nonetheless, but I'd actually like to see reviews based on people who have had this system for a few years.
We've actually done it! In the bakery where we installed one of our first floors, someone spilled a gallon of iced tea right in the middle of the room. It took and hour to pull up a few planks and dry them off and we did it right before the lunch hour so they could get back to business ASAP. The same spill would have warped a nailed down floor and required a whole replacement of the area and refinishing the whole floor which would have had the shop down for at least two weeks. A little effort goes a long way to keep this floor looking nice instead of living with damage for decades while you avoid repairing a nailed-down floor!
You aren’t making any sense. For #1 the gaps in this floor are just like any other hardwood, #2 you can seal this floor I believe they offer a water based sealant, #3 if you had a nailed down or glued down for that absorbed pee because wood is in fact (porous) you’d be worser off with repair than you would be with this system. If a standard hardwood system needed to be repaired you might have to replace the entire floor and you’re complaining about lifting one board with a suction cup?
@@StellerFloors I get what you mean, I think what I'm trying to say is, for small spills on a sealed regular floor, spilling milk etc. Just gets wiped up before it has time to wick in-between the gaps in the boards that have broken seals from expansion and contraction. So it's a one step process. Just wipe it up. Would a small spill require plunking up planks or can it just be wiped up as well. I understand your system is superior for large spills where you can get right to the subfloor and clean everything up and wipe down all affected planks.
Brilliant system I'm a flooring engineer and this is the future, I'd encourage my customers to buy spare packs for future wear and tear 👍
That's pretty slick.
Thats brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Hell yeah, nice product!
I might have found what I'll put on top of my "slabless slab"
This is amazing really smart. Wish it was less than 12 bucks a sqft to make them the go to product
$12-$20 - that's a big range and i'm sure the sky's the limit.
Great idea! I’d buy a few bundles for spares. That way the color size and moisture will be the same incase there’s an accident.
I can’t imagine it would be easier to remove an entire floor to refinish it prior to reinstallation ? How this could this be quicker or more convenient for the homeowner or tradesperson ? What happens when refinished and coated whilst installed, this would surely compromise the ability to lift it afterwards ? I love the concept and hope there are simple answers to my questions. Thanks
How do the clips install ? I’m sure it ain’t just a stomp.. what’s the layout look like for that track ? How wide ? How did u your installers lay that out to get it to fit that tight? Honest questions .. I swear.
We have a ton of other videos on our youtube channel that you can check out! ruclips.net/video/A8ly1TO5hjs/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/ibxGAqH6u0Y/видео.html might help :)
Can you run thin wires underneath it I wonder? Pretty handy for that I would think.
Yep! Interior designers like the idea the you can move floor electrical sockets without much pain by milling a groove in the board to run standard wiring.
@@StellerFloors I don't know any building code that would let you run power that close to the surface without a metal shield.
Very cool innovation. I like it.👍
Nice - but let's get real at 4:21. Who's going to take the boards out sand and re-finish by the ones?
Folks who have water damage from a leaky flower pot or pet damage can pull a single plank up, take it to the garage, and touch it up so easily. 120+180 grit and some standard poly and/or you can move that plank under a rug. You don't have to live with those annoying spots on the floor that catch your sock or catch your eye anymore, and you don't have to move out for a week and pay $5 per sqft to refinish all 1000 sqft.
Evan must be from Pennsylvania Dutch country. Good clogging technique shown there.
Looks great! I like it! Is there a solution for a perpendicular transition/reducer? (other than gluing it to subfloor and letting this floor 'slide' along side it)
Cool and your even get a river dance show.
We have experimented with floors like this at work. They dont lay flat over time, they will loosen up as the floors expand and contract from season to season, the clicking and popping in high traffic areas after a few years is annoying. Refinishing proves another challenge to keep them flat and secure. Certain finishes when they dry will cause the boards to want to curl up. Without nails, they dont lay flat. We will stick with the jobsite finished nail down strip flooring that costs 30% less for material and labor.
Plus you can refinish a traditional floor 20+ times.
My question is what does it cost per square footage? Is it compatible with other flooring’s? How much is the wholesale price.
That made my foot hurt just watching him do that.
Can you install it over radiant flooring system?
Matt, what is your take on prefinished floors verses finished in place when it comes to appraisals? I really like the prefinished stuff and have had good success with them but a builder friend of mine here in Chattanooga says that if he uses a factory finished product like that then he gets gigged on the appraisal when he goes to sell the house. That makes no sense to me. I think he’s getting poorly finished floors and could do better with the factory finish.
That's wild
How do you keep the floating floor from getting that squishy feeling when the subfloor/foundation isn't perfectly flat? Love the concept, but can you screw the tracks down so you get a more solid, firm feeling floor?
The floating aspect of the floor works best with the material properties of the wood, and since wood is about 3.5 lbs per sqft, this floor weighs about 7000 lbs. The weight keeps it very firm feeling!
Steller Floors Any plans to bring this to the UK? There is a massive market here for this product- we are known as a nation of homeowners and renovators, many of us want real hardwood floors but are put off because our houses are old, have no crawl space and we worry about access for potential wiring and plumbing issues. A product like this would be fantastic in the 25 percent of all homes here that are Victorian and therefore need floors which can still provide access to the space below from time to time! Happy to be your UK rep if you need one lol
How would this do in an RV? I'm looking for a floating floor to put in the RV I want. Does it come in other flavors of wood? I'm thinking I'd really like to have grade 1 quartersawn maple.
How do the ends finish if you have don't have square rooms. There's two groves on each board for the clipping system??
I assume every single board is perfectly flat, square with no twisted or warped or cupped boards. What do you do if the room is not a perfect rectangle, maybe a bow window area or even a curved wall.
Can you install over tiles?
Do they do a stair nose to finish at the top of stairs?
If I wanted this installed I’d have to order custom pieces for corners and door ways?
Not true. An experienced installer could do it
Can I install this over a concrete floor and the area is not heated.
Would it stay in the locks on wavy floor, because some of these older houses need shimming to somewhat level the floor & even then it's wavy enough to cause issues with installs
Is it possible to have heated floor with this product? I am seeing a plastic film underlay so I am thinking not, or am I wrong?
interesting how they do transitions.
So if there is no moisture change there is no need to have it floating...is there??
Ok now show me how I can kick and stomp some walls up on a rebuild? All jokes aside this is genius.
Am I able to get this product in the UK guys
Excelente!
Real hard wood is tongue and grooved and nailed at every floor joist , then sanded and finished . It will last 200 years
Can you order the rail system for your own supply of flooring?
Great product. If they can bring the price to 10$ sft, it will fly ! Not sure if they can do it even by multiplying sales
Wow!
Uh, flooring you can easily take with you when you move, cool ;-)
We love this idea, and we have also auctioned gently used flooring on ebay! We're really trying to change the way folks think about their floors :)
@@StellerFloors Why auction gently used flooring? Was it not happily installed forever?
No employee wanted it .. maybe they couldn't afford it?
While extremely cool and DIY friendly....what about refinishing the floor eventually?
I priced out doing just our living room with this system and they told me it would cost over $8000 for approximately 500 sq. ft. (including $800 for shipping). Seems like the only people to afford this are the very wealthy. We are just middle-class working folks. This is way too much. We are going to have to find a more affordable solution.
Anyone else notice the floors seemed to be warping upwards already? Even in their glorious final product video shoot there, they had a good few mm’s of uneven boards. I wonder how bad it gets a year or two into use?
landlords approve!
React to it
Tenants too!
I’m not a rental owner, but if I were, I would never put in $15 per square foot flooring in my units. Tenants aren’t going to respect the value.
@@tscoffey1 Depending on the neighborhood ($1800 per month+), if you can get $200 per month out of the tenant for hardwood living areas instead of carpet for about 500 sqft, the floor pays itself off in 3 years or so. Then you can take minutes to repair it for less down time between tenants, and you can charge tenants to replace whole planks out of deposits versus $5 per sqft refinishing costs. That doesn't even include the write-off. If you choose hardwoods, choose us!
@@StellerFloors Should make a basic common red oak variety where the selection is less stringent that has a slight price cut because of it and use it as an economy option. I think it would be easier to push that one into the retail market or for folks on a tighter budget at a wider scale and really deliver some serious returns. Keep the rest for those who want specific colors and tones and species. I think this is an amazing flooring concept though and I hope it succeeds.
So, when you are moving to another house you can literally take your floors to new address :-D
That is actually the very reason all those laminate "floating" floors come from Scandinavia. People there live somewhere for many years. They don't move frequently, but they also do not own their dwelling. They may improve it and remove the improvement if it is not physically connected to the structure. That would be floors and appliances.
They can also install and remove kitchen cabinets that are hung on rails screwed to the wall. Think: IKEA. The cabinets go; the rail stays. And yes, they do take the floors with them when they leave.
OTOH, the new tenant can pay the departing tenant for the depreciated value of the improvements if s/he wants to keep them. And that deal is outside the lease payment[s] and rental contract.
@@ricoludovici2825 sounds like the same thing we do in the Netherlands.
Usually kitchens are part of the house though. So it will not be allowed to remove.
When you have upgraded it yourself to a fancy one, and you are in a 'social housing' house the agency usually pays you a percentage of the depreciated value because you made the house worth more for them. Do mind that social housing over here does not necesarrily means lowest of the low quality. A large lot of them can go up to 750 euros of rent max a month.
To put that in perspective a mortgage can be as low as 550.
@@VYR1985 In the US, anything you do your rental home is considered 'donated improvements'. Hence, most people will do nothing more than paint the walls of their apartment or house. And for that, they have to get the owner's permission and abide with his approved colors.
Carpet is not moveable because it is nailed to the floor. In fact, you cannot remove or replace the existing carpet without the owner's permission. And if you do, your replacement carpet stays and becomes HIS/HER property.
Kitchens always come finished with cabinets and appliances. You cannot change these out, even if you pay for them. Except in some places, like California, where the refrigerator belongs to the renter. And s/he will often just sell it to the next tenant for a nominal sum or leave it in place, abandoned so to speak. Or the tenant RENTS the fridge from the landlord or an appliance rental company.
Also, Americans move much more frequently than Europeans, too. Average apartment tenancy is about 3 years. Purchased home would be 6 to 7 years residence on average.
So those floating floors are for purchased homes.
My tenants moved out and took everything except the kitchen sink....
[Looks in the kitchen]: nope, they took that too
That is typically not legal in most states...unless you want to lose the sale.
Think their business motto is “drop-pop-and lock it”?
now it will be
They need to pay you for that motto
I agree. *Cue the Austin Powers movie.... 1 million dollars!!
Huey would like to sue you. Lol
Drop....pop...shut em down lock em up tight.....oooooohhhhh......yeaaaaa
Very interesting. My concern would be the plastic connectors becoming brittle overtime though.
Also, how much gap is created at the joints by the top of the plastic clip?
They shouldn’t because there is no exposure to UV light. And even if one broke, replace the section that broke and stomp it down. 😊
@@Digidoc316 Looks like the plastic clip is below the top of the board and the gap looked minmual.
pretty sure its aluminum
it IS plastic 😯
Asks for a price of his product, dodges the question by saying it installs fast. Clearly it costs more, lol.
Sounds like material costs more but labor costs less; therefore total price is similar to other hardwood floors.
At the end of the day, I'd rather spend my money on quality materials than labor.
Value your time man ...
The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously.
2:13 how to destroy your knees in one year.
Yeah if you’re in your sixties... what’s wrong with your knees man?
@@julianfrederick9082 nothing. But as a hardwood flooring guy who’s used his knees in a similar fashion, I can tell you this destroys your knees. It literally sends the energy through your knee joint essentially turning the cartilage into the hammer. Almost all of that force ends in your knee cap causing inflammation and micro tearing of the ligaments.
@@jamesmayle4712 I wish there was a hell for you.
Well good that god invented the rubber hammer
You can install that floor while listening to Cotton Eye Joe.
thanks now that song is stuck in my head
The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously.
Looks like you broke a corner off of one that was still in the floor telling the truth is everything
I want to know/see what you have to do when ripping a board to fit it against a wall at the end of the run, and/or odd sections of wall and how to align this floating floor. Rare to be able to use a full sized (width) board all the way across a room.
The only downside I see are your feet, ankles and knees.
I’m sure you could still use a flooring mallet. Probably just stomped it to make a point.
Was that a pun? Lol
@@garyspaulding5690 I refuse to do anything more that stretch one room's carpet. Talk about bad knees.
You’re forgetting price
And back.
Time will show : gaps or no gaps. Big risk. Because, if gaps will appear, will be thrown away, all of it, or re-installed. And, if the price is the same, what exactly are you saving ? No point. go classic, stay forever, no gaps forever, professional carpenter always could repair or replace any board, which in real life happens like never. I call BS on this product.
I'd say give us a second look! We use premium materials, mill to thousandths of an inch, seal our product on all sides, and our system makes your flooring completely changeable which is fundamentally challenging how we think about floors, repairs and replacement.
I call BS on your post, my Dad was a carpenter for 35+ years and replace standard hardwoods is not a simple feat compared to this system. Some of guys and girls are so stuck in your ways you won’t accept the benefits of this product. Imagine if you had a radiant heating system leak or a fridge and you had extra boards that you purposely ordered for future repairs...it would be a simple as buying your own harbor freight suction cup rather than hiring someone to repair your floor.
@@WattsUpDev 1. " professional carpenter always could repair " for people who have short memory or trouble reading, never said "simple feat".
2. All this " my Dad was a carpenter for 35+ years" does 't mean anything really, he could be super carpenter ( in which case he could replace partially any hardwood flooring) or not a good carpenter, 35+ does't necessary automatically makes him a good carpenter and it's him , not you anyway. From my experience when there is no arguments that 20, 25, 30+ comes up, always annoying to hear that.
3. All those leaks are really , really rare event and FLOORING GOES UNDER THE SKIRTING BOARDS AND ARCHITRAVES, so usual person could repair all that in a proper way? No. That's why he is showing one single board in the middle of the room & telling all those horror stories about leaking fridges, radiant flooring and everything which could leak will magically leak in a colossal scale.
When your kid spills milk on the floor, how do you clean that up when it seeps into the connectors? The floor has advantages, but a lot of disadvatages too.
They literally just showed you! Take a suction cup pull the boards, clean ,put boards back down.
A lot easier than prefinished nail down hardwood.
@@dlopes523 I’d prefer not to pull up floor boards every time my cat tosses a hairball.
Well it’s sealed on all 6 sides so it’s protected a little bit more and as for traditional application you can still get moisture between boards on a spill and you can’t do crap about it. I think this method is pretty cool. I just laid 4500sq’ of 3/4” hickory the traditional way and the compressor nailer is only so good until you get to about three boards away from the wall then it’s glue or hand toenailing. Every hand toenail hickory? It’s hard as shit! I would have loved this track system!
I appreciate the product, and I realize this post is a marketing effort. I just try to offer a little reality to the marketeers.
I've installed clip-in flooring systems before, and the are NOT 100% sealed. They have their place in the building world, and are far less expensive to install, but don't tell me they seal the subflooring from moisture. I like the aspect of the removable slats, post installation.
"Not a cheesy laminate..." uses laminated/engineered lumber everywhere but the floor. Bwahahahahaha
He uses it there too the same way he uses it "everywhere" else. As a subfloor for a solid product. Pergo and other laminate flooring is cheesy floor. I don't think he was talking about engineered hardwoods that can be good quality with this comment.
The same word can mean different things.
- the Cheesy laminates - with such thin veneers that they can't be refinished = disposable flooring
LVL / GlueLam etc are either covered up, or Used in "feature beams" - they are hardly going to be wear items ,unlike flooring. lol.. (OSB on the other hand - that had better be covered up, nobody wants to see that.)
@@natyong you don't think, and don't know but comment anyway
Nice trick. Now make it waterproof. Sorry, I've had three homes with hardwood or wood laminate floors and they've all had serious issues with even small amounts of moisture. We're using luxury vinyl in our new home. Any aesthetic advantage of wood goes out the window with moisture vulnerability and expense in my opinion. Videos like these often don't consider expense or the effects of the real world on products.
Nice product!
The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously.
@@jamesmayle4712As I write this you have copied and pasted the same message 3 times so far. All you're accomplishing is showing people how brainwashed you are. Knock this crap off.
That's definitely the innovation. Stains, dings, renovation..Ease of in out. Awesome video Matt.
I love the concept and if money wasn’t a concern I’d definitely consider it, but like many of the other comments the price is just too high. Plus since the company’s only been around a few years there’s no “proof of longevity” in the plastic tracks, especially for spending $14+/sf on materials only. I’d need to see how it’s holding up after 10 years before dropping $30K to upgrade my house. I think materials/tax/shipping would need to be below $10/sf to be considered by me.
How about no more than $6 for materials to be considered by me.( actual installer and a salesperson)
$14 is crazy!!!!
You think they invented some sort of new plastic?
@Ab Ba thats the thing. For $14 dollars the quality is horrible. You can get amazing stuff for $10!!! $14 is crazy
It looks like a $3 per sf product. Look in detail at joints. Look at the height difference. It looks bad.
@@denispilipchuk9091 Really? Looks good to me. The real advantage is the homeowner can install it. Labor is nonexistent.
@@firesurfer look closer. I have 12 years of experience as an installer. If I can tell from a heavily edited video then more so in person. I don't think homeowners are going to jump on installing it. Its still labor intensive
I didn’t watch the full video but I couldn’t imagine the dollar per sq foot on this floor. (Came back and saw the price...no way) gotta have deep pockets for this floor.
It was close to 6 thousand for 400 sqft
Wood floors are not cheap unless your product is crap
You right, I think are several spends it
Went to the website and checked pricing and my smile turned into a frown. For the current plans i have drawn up it was over 20k for 800sq ft. of walnut. Ill pass.
What about expansion/contraction in a house that does not have tight humidity control? Will there eventually be gaps between the boards on the ends where there isn't anything holding them together?
When the boards do warp because of humidity...do you think plastic strips will hold them straight better than nails ? Wood , in a sense, is a living thing...and these floors have been machined to an MDF standard...but that won't last.
@@markanthony3275 you're right, just another way manufacturers sell products to customers and leave installers out to dry when the warranties are questioned.
@@Rob-- Exactly!
So, when interviewing a prospective employee the number one question is do they have any Irish dancing experience...
Glad you did a follow up on that company, Matt. I was hoping they managed to stay in business.
Thank you! Check us out on youtube and instagram to catch up with how far we've progressed!
@@StellerFloors oh sweet!
$12-$20 is extraordinarily high for hardwood floors.
I could get some of the best hardwood installed twice for that price
Yeah site finished oak is like $7.50-$8.50sqft all in for me.
This was three years ago. I wonder what Matt pays for it now.
That was an awesome video! It is the best of all worlds! It fixes so many things: no glue/nails, it snaps together anywhere in the field, refinishing is super easy and keeps your house usable, repair is easy, and it is the same cost as regular hardwood floors. I see this becoming a go to product. Very cool!
Thank you!
I like the system but it is really expensive compared to traditional hardwood flooring if you are installing yourself.
And traditional hardwood it not hard to put down
I love this concept. How long is the life of the boards? And after a few years do they start popping out of their tracks?
They certainly will. Moisture will weaken the substrate and these will pop. Usually new, innovative construction methods fail.
Coming from a floor specialist:
This invention is cool but won’t work the way they said. If you need to refinish it, meaning sand it, change the color and clear it with a lacquer, you won’t be able to pop a board out if it gets damaged because the lacquer would have bonded the boards together as lacquer is a strong clear durable glue pretty much. So you wouldn’t be able to repair it to perfection just as a traditional sanded hardwood floor. You can pull traditional sanded Hardwood floors out for a spot repair just as you would if this was to be sanded. Just hire a hardwood floor specialist near you.
See, my point exactly.
Hypothetically, why would you not be able to:
Lay the floor, finish with lacquer, cure, cut the seams with a utility knife, replace the board, then finish again with lacquer? Since lacquer is self-wetting it would blend the new board back into the previous seams.
@@scottjamieson9623 oh I wish it was that easy. Owned a business for 8 years now and repairs are one of the hardest to do because you’ll never get a perfect seamless match. The stain never behaves the same as the first time you stained the floor because the stain has aged and you’ll see exactly where you repaired because the lacquer doesn’t Flow into the existing lacquer creating a halo around the boards you just repaired. Once you sand, the floor becomes smooth (no bevels) so you’ll always be able to tell what’s been repaired. You can get close, really close but never perfect.
@@jaxonburt3670 I hear you. I was ignoring the part about matching stain because that's never easy. But what you said made it sound like these new boards wouldn't come out because of lacquer acting like glue. I'm sure it would take work, but a lot less work than taking out half the floor, no?
I believe Matt specifically mentioned popping it out, and doing the work in the shop, which can be assembly lined to make efficient. Individual pieces, refinished in a shop, little dust in the home.
What kind of craftsman wizardry is this? Is this the Jetsons house?
I think it would be cool if they had this system for laminate floors too
Look into gravity flooring. ... it's pretty sweet.
How it works with radiant heat?
I pop's up when the desired temperature is reached.
I noticed in the video the boards already seemed to have a mm warp, or popup, to them. Makes me wonder if the entire floor can be sanded or not? or if each board must be individually plained and then put back...
My furnace is in the crawlspace under the house. If it ever needed to be replaced or even substantially serviced with new parts, it would need to come up through the floor joists under the master bed, which means the floor would have to come up. This is the product I wanted before I knew it existed. I just did my house in click bamboo which was a huge compromise to the solid oak we wanted. I laid it so that only one room would have to be unclicked if we need to pull the furnace. This product would have let me just pull the area to get the furnace out. Wish I had seen this earlier.
LOL WTF? Why on earth wouldnt you have or add an access hatch like every other house in the world? Or have an access door from the outside of the house? Pretty serious thing to overlook....Even my 120+ year old stone house with a 3/4 basement has stairs down to access the mechanical systems
@@Dav3 I really appreciate your thoughtful and constructive feedback. You seem like a nice person. Wow, an access door, I never thought of that... 1st I didn't build the house. 2nd I'm on a 18" perimeter foundation not a basement. Outside the house on all sides but one, the ground is 6" below the top of the foundation. There's nothing to put a large door into. The house is in a city with no room to excavate a set of stairs. 3rd, the existing access door to the crawl space is about 12" high, meaning you can crawl in on your belly to maintain the unit, but you cant R&R an entire furnace. 4th, the furnace is directly under the center of the bedroom floor so an access hatch big enough to pull out a furnace unit would look crappy. 5. Either way, the subfloor would need to be removed. 6. Similar construction happens frequently when they put HVAC equip into an attic crawl space during framing. 7. If the heater does die and needs to be R&Rd, then we would spend a half-day and pull up the floor and subfloor (thus the click lock solid bamboo). I expect this to be at most a once every 20-year event. 8. I'm complimenting a product. If I needed your construction criticism I'ld have sent you a set of floorplans.
@@Cooper1 You did the best you could and I'm sure it's perfect for what you needed ! Loving how you politely replied to that negative prick
Heh! Isn't that ALWAYS the way?
You go nuts looking for the best solution.
Can't find it, and compromise with something that isn't QUITE what you want, but fits your criteria.
THEN, after you get everything done, the better solution "magically" appears and you're kicking yourself!
Personally I'm convinced this kinda stuff happens to me because I was a complete bastard in several, consecutive previous lifetimes....
These days the best option when a furnace dies is to replace it with heat pumps. I'd just disconnect the fuel and leave it where it is if it ever kicks the bucket. I just replaced my NG furnace with heat pumps and I'd never go back.
What will power wheelchairs do to the boards? Will the boards stay in place? Those powerful wheels can move a whole column of the typical floating floor.
Me scrolling: pshh hardwood...
*sees the 10 second preview
WHOAAA i gotta see this!
Definitely want this in a future home. How’s it hold up with radiant floor heating?
We are just like other hardwoods! We recommend a flat subfloor, and radiant heat should be hydronic where the temperature is kept below 80 degrees F so that the underside of the planks doesn't get too warm/dry. Give us a call if you have more questions!
There's two reasons it won't hold up well for long periods. First one it is actual wood which is an insulator especially at that thickness. However over longer periods of time that heat is thermal storage. I've been in radiant heat for many many years and I would have to say if it isn't laminate it will probably Crown and cup.
@@ericbollman3139 based on the wood science side, the reason planks cup or bow is because of an imbalance in the humidity above and below the floor that creates an imbalanced panel. Then weird grain direction and knots make it worse. A Steller floor has normalized grain direction and is sealed on all sides. As long as the RH/Temp above and below the plank is consistent over time and changes relatively slowly there shouldn't be an issue. We don't recommend high heats and we don't recommend electric to avoid these other issues.
How big a little hiding place do you figure you can stick under that floor? Do you think it'll make noise? How many times can you remove and install a plank before you can see something is different?
We've installed and removed the same plank hundreds of times at a trade show :) And, we've sold several floors to folks who want under-floor safes!
SO many elevation changes between boards. Also, you can clearly see small gaps between boards.......how much dirt is going between and under? let's not even talk about wet spills......
Our floors have a slightly eased edge that makes sure the pre-finished surface is better sealed, and while a large spill will make its way under any flooring material (wood, lvt, and even poorly sealed tile), with our flooring you can actually fix it using a simple suction cup instead of letting it sit under the floor forever! Allergens and mold don't stand a chance.
I didn't see elevation changes and I'm not blind yet. They're milled to the same specs so if someone had elevation issues it would be because they didn't level concrete before install. I don't know any wood floors that don't get spills between cracks... only with this floor you could pop it out, clean and dry the space and pop it back in. Tomorrow try getting out of bed on the other side.
It's like people don't watch before commenting.
@@StellerFloors Thanks for the info!!! I'm very curious to know how these hold up!
@@asherdie I absolutely watched. Why do you think I commented? I've installed floors for years and could see what I call snags. I wasnt trying to be hateful, just saw some things that I was puzzled with.
Great way to hide a floor safe
This would be an amazing product in a condo installation. Real wood flooring repairable. Amazing
I was wondering how this company was doing i like this product.
Have you ever used it?
I remember seeing this a while ago at IBS and I'm glad he's actually using it.
@@Senpany_kit_abuse unfortunately no. I like the concept and it looks like it would be an easier dyi project with real wood flooring.
Oh yeah, I saw this on that trade show review you did! I'm glad to see they're doing well!
I love it. I remember when you showed it at that trade show, and I thought it was brilliant then. I want this floor!
I’ve been installing for 25 years, why have I never seen this product/system. It definitely has peaked my interest.
just one comment on dings in your real hardwood floors...no need to sand ..just steam it out. ...The steam will penetrate thru the finish and release the ding, relax the wood and return it to its original state. Use a dry cloth towel and cover,,buy or rent a steamer and you have a repaired hardwood.
I like your steaming advice. Personally, I don't understand the obsession people have with perfection. We haver both 100 year old maple floors and twenty year old. Both have had dings or some light scratching, but most people would never notice, especially with all the area rugs and furniture we have. People buy the ridiculous "hand scraped" floors all the time, so if they want that rustic look, shouldn't they be able to live with some dings?
$12-$20 per square foot? That seems very high.
See my comment. You are correct. And those prices don't include labor.
But they said they were "right in there" 🤷
@@user-ty2uz4gb7v Wife and I were in Home Depot last week and priced out traditional 4" finished oak flooring strips starting at $4/sq. ft. This is what is 'right in there". The $12-14 they refer to is for the rich and famous.