Korok forest is Link's true home. It has the only two good things about Hateno, a free bed and a rainproof cooking fire in close proximity to a shrine, all for free and with better neighbors. And the bed, despite being treated similarly to an inn, was set up specifically for Link's use.
Wasted potential. After I fully upgraded the house I don't think I ever visited it again. I wish after certain quests there would be souvenirs in your house, like in Mario Odyssey where you buy items from different kingdoms for inside your ship. Imagine having a small Zora statue or a Rito wind chime! Or even something meta like an amiibo inside your house.
It's one thing when you first move there. But there's a series of non-repeatable quests in Hateno. It would make sense for the town to treat you more like a local the more of those quests are complete.
@@geox8485 Or like how in Gerudo Town, there are side quests that let you obtain the Thunder Helm, and the citizens start to recognize you more once you’re done with them
Also that the house is right on Hateno’s border, so sometimes when you’re just walking around in the house, “Hateno” will show up on the screen.. like.. I KNOW I actually LIVE HERE
My biggest issues is the two mom's talking to each other but not you because you're an outsider/traveler... Naurrrr I was here before y'all!!! I hate these two so much they're always rude 😂
If you look closely, you can see that the inside of Link's house doesn't match the outside structure. The chimney is the obvious example, but in the place where the bow weapon rack is, you can look outside and see that there's a bulge in the structure that indicates an alcove should be there. The exterior model for Link's house is shared with other houses in Hateno, and if you look into those houses, you find that the inside DOES match- there's an alcove where the wall stick out, etc. This is the biggest thing that bugged me about Link's house. I assume they changed the interior to streamline it for the weapon racks, and didn't bother to make a unique exterior to match the actual interior.
Yeah that's the only problem I have with this house. All the problems mentionned in the video don't matter to me because that's just not the kind of game BOTW is. But having more consistency in the structure of buildings is always welcomed.
@@theradiantdehd3997 LOL it's literally the opposite. In house of leaves, the inside of the house is bigger than the outside. Link's house being smaller on the inside could just be the result of having some portions walled off that you can still see from the outside.
I'm sure there's some kind of story behind that but i doubt they'll ever talk about it. It really seems like they had to change their plans last minute or smth
OH MY GOSH, YES! I loved the fact that Link's house was brought into the game because it felt like a little hub area that the player could just chill out in and do semi-simulator things to give Link a break. But most of it is completely useless! And how could Link's own bed, safely nestled in a quiet community (that's potentially his home village) NOT give him bonus hearts and heal him the same amount as the random beds he can find in dangerous lands? Also, ridiculous that there aren't enough weapon, bow and shield mounts in the house for you to display all the possible "special" weapons in the game (Champions' gear, amiibo weapons).
All this stuff amounts to it being a video game at the end of the day. That's the reason. No fireplace because a weapon rack is there. No extra hearts is because they thought it would be too op/unbalanced probably to have somewhere you can permanently get extra hearts for free after buying it. Though for the price you pay for the house I don't think it is, but I'm not the devs.
You can display every champion weapon, shield and bow and you'll still have space for 2 bows and 2 shields. (you'll have enough space for the weapon displays if you only place one of mipha's tridents)
@@ruh804 ya but there's also plenty of rare items that should be displayed like kite shield and korok sword I want a museum to place one of every item inside of to have a big collection somthing like the picture/model side quest in windwaker would be awesome too
@@kit76149 yes but it even sucks at being a video game house. Only being able to store 3 types of gear despite there being well over 3 super rare types of gear in the game. You pay thousands of rupees for basically just a glorified rare item display. There's almost no point in buying it in the first place if you're not an item collector because it has no other practical use other than to store a very limited amount of rare gear.
There's plenty examples throughout the game but I think Link's house is absolutely the best example of the designers & programmers having a huge amount of ideas and even starting implementing some of them before being told to abandon them due to the game being way behind schedule. They said when they released DLC that they still had tonnes of unfinished ideas remaining & much of that would go toward TOTK. Curious if the house will even still be there...
honestly i wouldn't have even been mad if they added more dlc content to BOTW. its an incredibly fun, Very replayable game, but yeah i do hope a lot of the unused stuff (especially for the house 🙏) makes it into TOTK
It really sucks because I would gladly wait a few or even a lot of extra months if it means it's the best version of the game possible. It's disappointing to have to wait, but it's worth it for a perfect game. 🎮
This house bugged me so much! Especially as it's implied that it was actually Link's own house before he never came back 100 years ago. They had so much room to add easter eggs, personal touches or just tiny details that make the home feel less generic. A really easy change would have been to change the yellow flower in the vase to a Silent Princess. Every Zelda game in the past had these tiny attention to detail, like the child's drawing on the tree in OOT or each student's room in Skyloft. It's baffling why they even left the table set for 2 people, as if Link in the story arc is the type to have friends or ladies for sleepovers.
if you do the whole village building questline and DONT talk to them after the wedding they'll stay in the village but once you talk to them they go back to your backyard
This really annoyed me. Imagine having some builders come do work on your house then decide to live in your garden afterwards. Imagine walking past them every day going to and from work.
I also really hoped I could buy a house in tarrey town. I love the design of those house. Imagine if you could create your own house with a limited amount of "cube". Since everybody in tarrey town knows you, it would feel more real. A fairy fountain close, add something for the horses and voila
@@jessicaseta1581 Time to collect 4000000000000 wood and [cry yourself to sleep] rupees. It was fun at first but in the end it just felt like hours of bombing trees to get Hudson married. Would rather go find poop for Hestu since it did something and I got to go to cool new places. Edit: ok there is no rupee cost but it sure felt like we should have been paid more than 3 diamonds for the amount of labour provided, so basically Hudson robbed us and we didn't get a house in Tarrey Town.
3:13 more over on the kitchen, it would have been really cool if there was a cookbook in it that shows all the recipes Link has collected from his adventures. If I don’t have the recipe in my inventory anymore, I hate having to go back to the location that has a recipe on its wall or look up the recipe online JUST to remember how to make it; when it could easily just be in Link’s home.
Yeah I hate that you can only view a recipe if you have the current meal in your inventory I had to resort to screenshotting every time I found a good recipe when really this should just be in the game
If I could add any one thing to Breath of the Wild it would be a cookbook. It just seems like such a waste not to flesh out something that’s so integral to the whole game, start to finish. From the moment you find your first cooking pot until you face Ganon, cooking is pretty much always useful and it always gives me such a calm, homely feel. I just wanna live out my post-apocalyptic traveling chef dreams 😤
@@AtlasAttakus I get it, but honestly, what's the point of a cook book or getting ingredient at all? x5 hearty durian is all you "need" to make at any point in the game. Every recipe is completely useless. x5 times mighty banana. Etc.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 "5x hearty durian is all you need" bro,are you fr?? 5x hearty durian may be useful,but not the only thing you need. Like,what if I need a small heal when using master sword to be able to ranged attack,but the only food I have is max heal +whatever extra hearts,also how is 5x hearty durian gonna help me when I'm climbing a massive cliff and I'm low on stamina? You also completely ignore the usefulness of cold resist,heat resist,and damage boost,because if I'm in a cold area fighting a miniboss (ice talus/cyclops guy i forgot the name of), using cold resist lets me equip phantom armor,giving me a massive damage boost.
One cool thing about Link's house is that you can see all 4 divine beasts from the rooftop. It's one of the few places in Hyrule that's not a mountaintop or a high place that you can see this. Honestly, it's amazing how much there is to do in BOTW but also how much was cut out. When you think about it, BOTW is one of the buggiest games after all the exploits people have found. I really hope that the extended development time of the sequel TOTK was to add in all the missing features/fix the bugs (really hope there is proper underwater swimming in the sequel).
I do want them to keep the funny bugs, like the shield fly. I'd totally just yeet myself everywhere instead of fast traveling just because it's more fun
I feel like not all bugs are a bad thing though. In my opinion (and I have no experience whatsoever in game design or marketing so take this with a grain of salt) any bug that doesn't ruin the gameplay for others and is sufficiently hard enough to trigger should not be patched. Example: windbombing. It doesn't crash your game, its impossible to do on accident, and it's useful. People will typically only start doing them later on in gameplay (I started doing them with ~300 hours) so they aren't missing out on exploration either.
@@davidalvarado9957 If you try to get anywhere close to completion, you’re bound to stumble across several glitches. The ones I’ve found are all collision issues that happened during shrine quests.
One of the big reasons I think the sequel was green lit was because botw had a crazy amount of content cut from it. You can see with the plants and stable guy that they started fleshing things out but had to abandon it. They probably had plans to make hateno as detailed as places like Kakariko and Gerudo Town but in its current state it can feel empty
@@paperluigi6132 That too. Even Majora's Mask was like that, the director wanted an Ocarina of Time expansion but the devs wanted to do a new game instead.
@@Mari_Izu that’s especially interesting considering how much MM feels like the missing second half of OoT, with the expanded mask mechanics and a completely new map.
@@Gafafsg MM was also forced to be made within two years I believe so the hero of time had to be used instead of a new Link because they also recycled a lot of npcs from oot as well. There's a documentary about it somewhere online.
The NPCs not changing their dialogue to recognize you as having bought the house is a huge pet peeve of mine. Plenty of NPCs have adjusted dialogue dependent upon quest status, I don't understand why the ones in Hateno don't
They need to take some notes from Supergiant's Hades. That's the frustrating thing about big corporations: It's all about money, and caring too much about anything artistically is considered "risky" and your efforts just get lost in the shuffle anyways. Nintendo makes very bland, entertaining games for the most part. It's more of an exception if something special gets thrown in. My 2¢
I love the idea of having a house, but there is also a sad beauty in the house being just an empty shell. I like to think that the reason you can't do any of that stuff is that Link is too focused on the quest to consider living anywhere. The only thing you can do is hang weapons, and have an average night's sleep. Why store stuff that you might need? Why get attached when it could all be destroyed if you fail to defeat Ganon again? It shows about how he's there so infrequently that the villagers don't even recognise him Sorry,, but I love geeking out about how the story would affect Link. Just the fact that the poor dude only smiles when cooking,,, like jeez.... (Edit: also where is that cucco coop at the end?? That is so cute!)
Headcanon accepted. ;) You make some very good points here. The cucco coop is in Hateno as well by the way. Head directly left after passing the main gate and go around the house in front of you. ( objmap.zeldamods.org/#/map/z8,3340.5,2080.375?id=MainField,I-7,4162242881 )
Yeah, the idea that Link doesn’t really have a home, except in this very technical sense, is definitely a thing that I can get behind. And even the one touch he can add that feels personalized - the photo of the Champions, with the DLC - is still tinged with that tragedy and the past, another thing motivating him to avenge their memories and save the princess. I do really wish he could cook in that kitchen, though. Its uselessness mocks me. Maybe Link forgot how to cook anything except in a wok, and Bolson only realized this too late once he put in a kitchen and Link was still stealing theirs.
The absolute worst thing about the house is that after you finish the tarrey town quest, if you talk to the builders again they GO BACK TO SIT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE AND NEVER LEAVE! i cannot understand WHY that would EVER be an option!!! They even have THEIR OWN HOMES literally right next to yours and they NEVER leave your front door! I specifically never talk to bolson again after finishing tarrey town because then he stays there!
i was foolish and did terry town before finishing all the upgrades so i had to talk to him and make him come back 😭😭😭 he said he was going to travel, then GO!
they should add a second house within your house that you can also buy to be disappointed a 2nd time (until you get the option to buy the 3rd even smaller house)
My perspective as a dev is that they probably planned on implementing all the things that you showed off in this video at some point during development, but then they decided to focus on finishing other features and removed whatever wasn’t finished (leaving behind the traces seen in the video) because they were running out of time and/or as the vision for the game shifted over time, these elements seemed less necessary or compatible with the rest of the game. Like maybe early on, the stables didn’t exist, so you could only manage your horses at home, but then they found that it was frustrating having to trek them all the way across the map and added the stables, which then made the stable at home no longer useful. Maybe farming was planned but when they thought about which features to cut to eliminate scope creep, it was an easy choice to remove since it was mostly disconnected from the rest of the game mechanics. Personally what bugs me the most out of these is not being able to go in your own shed and the townsfolks not knowing who you are when you’ve owned a house in town and they’ve seen you going up and down the street for the last 200 hours of gameplay.
Yeah I was also very underwhelmed by link's own home. Apart from the theory that it was Link's own house before the calamity and he's only buying it back, AND the fact that Bolson sits in your lawn for eternity, it's also frustrating how little you can do in the house compared to how much you invest in it. I've only used the bed in the house once or twice throughout my playthrough because everywhere else look much more welcoming. The interactivity prevalent in BotW just isn't seen here. You can't even keep your favorite gears and rare shields in display because you can only display 3 of each type, if you want to collect missable stuff you can only leave it to rot in your inventory space, eating up a precious space for potent weapons as they deplete very fast. Also, why can't the house be a little bit... cleaner? It always look dusty inside, contrasting to the vibrant, pristine looks of Bolson's other architecture works. It makes me think they didn't even dust off the interior when handing over the house. Also also... why can't I have a house in Tarry Town? You know, the town that *I* gathered wood to build, that *I* found workers and residents for? And the residents don't even seem greatful, with Hagie and his daughter actively despising you? (Hobbies of the Rich side quest) AND after you help Hudson build the town, fulfil his worth, find his love, host his wedding, what does he tell you? *"Don't you have somewhere important else to be?"* *sigh*
I took that comment more as "don't feel obligated to stay, I know you have more important stuff to do", but I see your point. I can just as easily come across as him trying to shoo you away.
@@LaydiNite yes, I do get that's what is the intended meaning. I just feel sad how the one place you have so much attached to is somewhat actively pushing you away. Maybe BotW spoiled me with how much it already offer and made me greedy for more.
Link has 2 houses in Wind Waker. His family's with sister and grandmother. The other is the private cabana you get from the teacher after trading pendants. No reason you couldn't have one in Tarrey Town.
And the bonuses on your weapons and shields get taken off if you put them on display which crushed my soul when I returned hours later to get my max damage lynel crusher
as soon as i saw the little stable outside in my first playthrough i assumed it would be some way to put on saddles and maybe even put the monster set on a skeleton horse so it can be registered. i was very disappointed.
I like to think that not knowing how to sit in furniture or use cutlery is a symptom of or related to Link's amnesia. I'm sure it's not inconsistent that he retained multiple combat forms nearly perfectly and forgot how to sit.
well he was said to have above average combat abilities since he was a child like bullet time, those capacities are innate to him since he's the hero, so it would make sense he would retain them but not social norma
4:02 now that i've seen it next to some other objects it's made me realize that apples in breath of the wild are absolutely enormous unless all of link's cutlery and dishes are miniature.
nearly all items / ingredients are absolutely humonguous, just not while Link is holding them. For example, make Link hold 5 Gourmet Meat chunks at once, and they fit into his arms nicely. Drop the same stuff on the ground and each single piece is bigger than Link's entire torso. The same goes for all types of weapons by the way. Lynel Crusher while Link is holding it = looks heavy but it fits. Lynel Crusher lying on the ground - noticably bigger than Link himself.
Yeah I recently realized that and spent a solid half hour just looking at how MASSIVE items are with my sister and I swear to god I thought it was a glitch. It wasn’t. I’m just an idiot lmao.
9:04 this not a shed, it's an outhouse. Guessing I don't need to explain what one of those is, but Nintendo have never been squeamish about including toilets in Zelda games before so I don't know why they didn't include them here. Hateno has a lot of houses though so perhaps the game couldn't handle the extra strain (pun intended haha) Totally agree with a lot of your points, would have loved to upgrade things like the pond and flower field and maybe keep some cuccos too. I reckon Nintendo didn't want to have players too focused on home improvement whilst Zelda watched on from the castle, however.
@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon can you imagine if they solved the 'eating infinite apples to heal mid-battle' issue by implementing an Animal Crossing style system where you have to sit on the toilet to relieve yourself of the 'full' status condition...? Would certainly increase the challenge of some bosses!
@@Victor_Graves it would also be nice to display the collectables, like if it's in my inv, I'm gonna ignore it, but if I can see my accomplishments in some place that isn't a menu, it feels like I'm actually doing something a bit
I was literally JUST thinking about Beedle's off-putting, passive-aggressive tactics to get into your rare beetle collection!! Having somewhere to keep them a safe distance from his stingy mitts would have been great. In fact, aside from the art on the walls and the dining/kitchen areas, I have the exact same complaints!!
I've noticed that if you keep your "meals" inventory full, he can't trade for your beetles because you have no room for his trade offering (He only trades in food and elixirs, judging by my experience) So, there's a way to avoid the passive-aggressive stuff AND keep your beetles.
they made it so effing time consuming to say no to him it's worth it to keep the inventory full but once you have a surplus (of gold beetles) you can say yes and sell anything he trades you right back for a lot more than just what he gives you for the beetle - except the fairy tonic, that's a rip off
NGL a big wish I had is that after saving zelda She just chills at your house while you continue what you do. So it feels like the house is actually used like zelda can just replace the two dudes, shes always there safe in your house getting the rest she deserves. Tbh they dont have to do anything or add anything to the house if Zeldas there cause seeing her there safely just adds this emotional purpose for all the stuff you did.
i think the bed could have an option to let you generate a bonus heart by having link sleep in. having only one of the picture frames be customizable would have been okay too. i would have also liked one of the bookshelves to maybe contain link's diary or journal. the flower garden could have had some flowers like blue nightshade in it. just one armor stand would have been good enough as well. and the shed out back could have had a little storage spot for items.
The fun part about a link's journal is that he technically has one, it was just immensely edited out through localization (the quest log we use in game is written in Link's 1st person POV in Japanese). I think it would've been cool for the bookshelf to maybe be a hub to reread various books you've found in Hyrule instead. That way you don't have to run like a headless chicken to reread all of them and it kind of rewards you for exploring by sticking it somewhere else for easy reference.
In the Japanese version of one of the art books, Creating A Champion, there's a picture of a photograph that was going to be in Link's house of his father and little sister. He was going to have a family before Ganon's return. For whatever reason they scrapped it, and for whatever reason, they didn't include that in the english translated versions of the concept art books. My biggest petpeeve is not keeping my horsies there and walking around in the pasture. And I wish they had included Link's family. We would feel more keenly his loss.
I was so mad that you couldn't use the stable. I would have loved it if we could have used it to keep mounts the regular stable wouldn't take. How cool would it have been if we could have bought Stalhorse riding gear from Kilton? Truely a lost treasure trove of potential. To let players have their own customizable garden, pond, orchard, ect., would really have made it feel like a home for Link.
When I discovered the possibility of building a house for Link, I thought "Wait, will I be able to own a house in every main village ?!". I was so excited to be able to live in Kakariko or Lurelin. Needless to say I was disappointed
that would be awesome, especially since there are at least 2 companys in existence including bolson (the gorons have one, the miners pickaxes are probably the best place to see the crest)
FINALLY someone who craved more out of this house! My sister always looked at me like I was picky or something when I complained about the house. In her playthrough she never went there so she saw no need for it. I however am regularly going back to it and am disappointed EVERY TIME. One thing that pissed me off beyond belief was Bolson "and Sons" acting like they owned the place. Don't get me wrong, I actually really enjoy their dialogue and I don't even mind that they originally commandeered it. It made me angry, but it makes sense lore-wise. House has been empty for 100 years, it's just business. I don't even mind paying for upgrades cus Link is probably the kinda guy that wants to see everyone be properly compensated for their work and doesn't like hand-outs. So all's good. EXCEPT, the fact they just act like they've "given" the house to us. Why is there never a way to prove to them we owned it? Like maybe they heard the legend of "the kid who held the sword" owning the house but believed it to be too long ago or whatever, but then we show up with the Master Sword and they're like "HO SHIT!". There are already 3 rando NPCS that I can remember that react to Link having the Master Sword, so obviously that's not a big deal for them. At that point I feel like it would be cool if it unlocked bonus upgrades or something. Almost like a way to bring the cozy house into the end-game content. More storage, more functionality, etc. AND MAYBE THEY'LL MOVE THEIR GOD DAMN HIDEOUS EYE-SORE SHOW-HOUSES!! Ya'd think if they found out this ancient ass dude, Savior of Hyrule and Killer of Bokoblins showed up they'd probably be MORE THAN HAPPY to at least make us a nice CLEAR path to get our horse up there but nooooo. We gotta squeeze our horse through the tiny cube door, up the stairs, and out over the balcony just to reach the bridge(exaggeration). AND GO HOME! They literally already path to go and sleep in the ugly cube houses so why the hell can't they just go camp out at a firepit there?? WHY MY LAND. GTFO I PAID FOR THIS. Aside from my loss of composure and literal temper tantrum, I completely agree with everything you've said. You even alerted me to NEW things to be angry about HAHA. One thing that always bothered me that I was so glad you mentioned was the useless, unfunctional stable. Why even bother Nintendo, why even bother. Should've just left that empty ass field if they were gunna give me that fake ass stable to stuff my horse in. Don't even get me started on the fact that if you angle your horse in a certain way or shove 'em in too far, you literally can't get off of it. Like it's LITERALLY not even big enough for you to comfortably and consistency park yer horse there. Not to mention it's in an extremely inconvenient spot. I already mentioned the cube houses blocking the way, but wouldn't have made more sense if it was closer to the road? For ease of access? Or if they kept it next to the house(cus it's cute) but at LEAST have it directly across from the bridge or CLOSE cus the current stable is legit stuffed in the back as far as possible. Might as well be up on the hill behind the house. And the storage. My god the STORAGE, if you can even call it "storage". It never made sense to me why they put like 69 special weapons in the game and were like "pick 3"... Hun... And there's not even a separate space for claymores. We get three spots for bows and polearms, but swords and claymores _share_ three. Aka, they basically only get 1-2 each? How does that make any sense? The final thing I'll complain about, cus this is long and there is TOO much to complain about, is that, on one hand, I can entirely understand why the house might still feel empty lore-wise. I always believed it was because Link just didn't feel at home there anymore. It had been years, and Bolson touched basically everything, and all his memories, friends, history is basically dead. The house probably looks exactly to him as it does to us, and empty shell. I also have secretly head-canon that the man's too busy thinking about Zelda to not notice her lack of presence everywhere in the house LMAO. Someone in the comments also brought up the idea that he's just, too busy to see the house as a home. I love all of those theories. My gripe with that, is I think it should be the player's choice how the house is treated. Like depending on how many bonuses you buy for the house/how much time you spend there/etc. would dictate how the game(and by extension NPCs) sees the house. For players who never go, the house can be the empty shell Link can never feel at home in, and the villagers treat him as a wanderer, but for others, the house can be yer hub. It can be the base of your operations, a place to unwind, a place for Link to decompress and actually practice self-care LOL, it can be a home. At least to me, everytime I come to this house, which is often, it just makes me sad. Sad for the potential, sad for the ugly stupid trees, and sad for Link. It makes me think that despite everything that's happened to him and all the places he's been, there is no where for him to go and feel peace. He doesn't have a home. His mission is more important than even himself, and that just makes me so miserable. I wish there was a place for him in this game. A place for LINK, not just the "Hero" or "Knight of Hyrule" but Link himself. This got real sappy but I just make myself feel better by spending time/feeding the horses, getting their hair re-styled and talking to the NPC's like old friends. Making Link an actually decent meal for once, as opposed to the infinite amount of apples I force down his throat mid-battle LMAO. Take time to do fun things like minigames or shield surfing. Stupid little things that make me feel better about the fact that he is essentially alone. So many friends, yet he is alone. Alone in his struggles, alone in his experience, and alone in his mission. The only surviving people from his past are either too old for sense or held up by some other supernatural occurence (**cough** Zelda **cough cough**). Anyways, incredible video BAHAHA! Inspired critical thinking, obviously, and said everything I would've wanted to say. Makes me feel seen to see that other people wanted more from this too. One thing I did notice though, is at least for me the text went by too fast. Idk if I'm just stupid but I found myself having to pause often throughout the video to read it. It wasn't that big of a deal but I'd thought I'd let you know anyways!
Actually reading about the whole "feeling at home" theories and generally the house ptogressiom it reminded me about something, cant pinpoint the game but there was a game with a house (i think it was 3d) where upgrades actually made it look really good and like it was so exciting to just go inside Or maybe it was sth else, interior progression is a common thing in games i tjink i just mistook it for sth else But still anyway it just feels like the idea to get the upgrades to feel more welfome in the house are great But the game is not giving this so...
Man im glad they added custom house building to Tears of The Kingdom. You can have a goddess statue, place to store weapons, a place to frame pictures, sleep, and even (thank god) cook.
You have made me… _so_ upset… but I love it. Here’s to hoping Tears of the Kingdom gives some use to it! Maybe they’ll let you transfer certain save/quest data (like the house or the great fairy fountains) to the new game? Make them feel properly connected. It would be weird if everything reset.
I found a villager in Hateno, a little old lady who of course asks if you are a traveler, the dialog has the option of saying No, and she will welcome you to the village as a resident. I doubt it would make other NPC's change their dialog(cos i killed Ganon shortly after and started master mode), but it was a fun discovery to make.
as revenge for not offering a quick-buy option (and for selling me back my own house and furniture), I never talk to Bolson after the wedding in Tarrey Town so he’s perpetually stuck there, never to return to squatting outside my home.
something else that irks me: Bolson lives in one of the houses he built across the bridge from Link’s house. he could stay there, or bother the people in Hateno, but instead he chooses to sit in front of a fire on the lawn and contemplate retiring.
I would have loved if the house acted as your hub. A shelf for displaying your accomplishments as statues or something (total Koroks, taming the harder/unique horses, getting all armor sets, etc) or a new space added based on the kingdoms you visit (reading nook with plants based on Deku Tree comes to mind and a rock collection shelf for Gorons. Maybe a dressing corner for Gerudo and the Fairies). And getting bonuses based on if you cook or sleep there would have been great. Heck, the NPC houses look more inviting. Some decor to reflect Link's personality would have been awesome since he doesn't have much when it comes to animation in this entry. I love when games allow you to have a house/village and add to it based on your progression, like Pokémon Legends (although everyone else seemed to get improvements while Protagonist stayed in a shack). It helps with role-play/immersion for me, as someone who loves dioramas.
IIRC there were interviews where devs were discussing a complex building system for the Tarrey Town they had to scrap, it would've reportedly allow you to freely stack the building blocks local houses are made of. This might be another confirmation as to whether or not Link's house was planned to have a better functionality.
Not to mention that after you upgrade your Shekiah slate the lab becomes basically pointless unless you want to 100% the game quicker. Which kinda saddens me because I thought Purah and Symin (more Purah because she's adorable) were so cool the 1st time I seen them. Now it's just a monument... same with Robbies lab but I don't really like him (he looks weird lol)
Not to mention his wife is like 50 years younger than him...eugh. And yeah, once you get a bunch of hearts and good weapons the guardian armor and weapons are just expensive and unneeded.
@@IceGoddessRukia Isn't Zelda technically 100 years older than Link? Like yeah she was in some kind of magic battle stasis, but she was conscious the whole time.
Now, I clicked on this video because I was angry about the giant chimney with no fireplace and not being able to enter the shed...but now I have MORE things to complain about that I didn't notice or think about! A farming option would be fantastic! A place where you can farm your own fish would be nice too!
I've always felt this entire game was just a development showcase. Everything in BOTW will (hopefully) become very polished and intricate in Tears of the Kingdom. They kind of just made a really basic game, filled it with a bunch of functions they can develop further, and started making TOTK. So hopefully the housing situation will be way cooler and functional in TOTK
Well, that's because you hit the nail on the head. It is both an amazing game and a tech demo. A sort of "Look at all the crazy amount of cool shit that can be done with the features of our brand new console!"
Yeah, it's a pity. That house had all the potential to be a base for Link, to make it feel like he can belong somewhere. He literally buys the house in Hateno and upgrades and redecorates there. But after you're finished with that, there's just... basically no reason to ever return there. I don't even really store my weapons there, because there's not much of a point. What this could have been, was somewhere to store stuff, keep your horses, sleep, cook, stock up on resources and grow stuff you might need, maybe even make it personalized in some small ways like the pictures, but it's just a shell that doesn't feel like a house, really. What it does is just makes me sad, because visiting it while playing makes me feel like this is somewhere Link isn't supposed to be, either, and that he's just a stranger everywhere. Korok forest feels like a more welcoming place than the literal house you buy for yourself.
That's just a little weird habit of mine. I always "bow" to the tribe leaders after speaking with them (Riju, Kaneli, Impa, etc.) as it feels wrong/insufficient somehow if Idon't. I also never take anything out of the offering plates even after completing the Korok puzzles and regularily give treats to my horses even at full bond, put Link into comfy clothes and give him a proper meal before turning the console off, and make sure that he's in a safe spot while I'm "away". None of these things actually make a difference in the actual game, but ... they just feel right. ;)
Wouldn’t it be so cute if you could have a little horse-care minigame in the stable and you could upgrade their speed, stamina or strength permanently? I mean, there’d be a cap, ofc, otherwise it’d be totally broken lol. Maybe we could also train them to traverse special terrain like forests, steeper roads, JUMPING OFF CLIFFS- idk lol, I want more horse stuff this game made me a horse girl.
Jumping off cliffs!!! Actually thats what i didbt know i was missing. I understand it was done for you to not kill your horse but the way horses work on steeper terrain is just weird Aside id love to kill my horse by jumping off the cliff just for fun.
Many of these issues crossed my mind while hanging around the house. Most of all I wanted more item racks, maybe a basement with the space to hold a lot of them.
so glad someone else talked about this! i was so excited when i got the house, only to find out that it doesn't really do much. i was really looking forward to having a permanent place to stay, given a majority of the time in botw is spent traveling. it honestly would've been so cool to have storage, stable, and cooking features, but instead the house just feels like a waste of resources. oh wellll
@@eddyangstman Skyrim is all about traveling and you can own homes. It sold really well and got many remakes... It turns out when you have a limited inventory having a home to store stuff and grow stuff while you adventure is a good design choice. It helps clear weightless clutter or keep those Relics of long departed friends.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 skyrim is a completely different game and also its not good its infamous for being shitty and needing tons of mods to even function well the only reason it got so many ports was bc the company that made it wanted to milk it for money
I have some thoughts about this. I haven't finished the video yet since I'm at work, so maybe some of this was covered already, but I'd like to share. I really love the Hateno house actually. I am constantly going back there to rest and it makes me feel like Link has a reprieve from being the hero of Hyrule and gets to just *be.* He gets to come to a place he calls home and relax. I have the champion's ballad dlc and I love seeing the picture of everyone on the wall. I know you can watch the memory whenever you want, but seeing the picture hung up on the wall just cements the memory to me. It makes it feel more real. I've seen some stories where, after saving Zelda, they move into the Hateno house as a sort of base of operations. Just a place where they can plan next steps and go back to in times of need. As I mentioned, I am always coming back to the house whenever possible. It makes me happy to think that Link has a safe place to go and be himself. It's a little silly, but I almost feel proud of him for taking that step. Something about this game makes me want to physically travel everywhere. I'll often have a horse parked in the mini stable thing next to the house and I'll hop on when it's time to go and explore. Sure, I'll teleport around when it's needed, but I much prefer to ride my horse (or motorcycle, and even then, I'd prefer my horse) around Hyrule. It's not a super big and vast world in reality, but it *feels* like it and it's super fun and relaxing to ride around. Having that little place I can always start my journey from really makes me feel like it's more personal. It's... comforting, in a way, if that makes sense.
Beautifully said... me too, honestly. I put Epona in the horse stable after a few hours of journeying and just chill out, cooking some dishes (Lynels demand that I eat a few things of salt grilled gourmet meat.) and being not actively playing for a bit. It's nice and relaxing.
I agree fully with the technical gaffes in the video, but I do share a similar sentiment as you. I treat it largely as a safe place to retreat to, to cook, and swap out weapons. I mostly keep one weapon of each element there to retrieve as needed.
You missed only one thing. One of the villagers up past the inn has the identical house to Link in it's completed form. The only difference is the staircase is on the the other side. :) Also yes, my biggest issue with this game is how obviously not done it is. A mission board with only one mission? The option to demolish those god awful houses Bolson is building? To help expand the town and grow it? Maybe combining it with some Shiekah? I have a feeling Nintendo just gave up on it for the second one and put it out to tide people over. 🤷
it is done you arent meant to spend a long time in one place the whole point of the open world and having quests everywhere especially since having a bunch of expansions that would have taken incredibly long periods of time like building and tearing down things makes no sense when the story of the game emphasizes how little time you have before ganon breaks free.
What an awful take that is. The "mission board" only exist for that mission, so what? You want to demolish Bolson's houses but that's just because you don't like them. There's no reason why that should be an option in the game. "Help expend the town" there's already an entire side quest where you build a town from scratch. That video and your comment are just stating non-problems. The only thing that I agree was needed regarding Hateno is more dialogue from the NPCs after you buy the house.
People still discover new details in BOTW after thousand hours of playtime, but sure, let's call it unfinished because you can't demolish and build houses in some small town.
0:23 The commonly accepted interpretation is that the options given when selecting things to add to the house are the things Link himself thought to add to the house. Once everything that Link thought was needed was in, he told Bolson it was done, at which point Bolson realized that Link didn't think to add actual furnishings to the house, at which point he gives them as free of charge as a sort of house warming gift. 0:52 Again, the good were almost definitely a gift, not previously in the house, removed, and then returned once the building was renovated. On that note, even if the house was Link's family home, the place was vacant for some time, 100 years at most. When Link first encounters it, the house was marked for demolition because it was vacant and dilapidated. None one owned it because Link's family had been long dead and Link himself was presumed dead. 1:43 Link's bed doesn't do anything special because the special bonuses are justified in universe as being premium services purchased at inns, like massages or extra comfy bedding. Besides which, the game encourages going out to explore, and there are much more efficient ways of getting bonus hearts by doing that than sleeping in a bed. 2:21 That is just stupid. You want to have your resources spread across multiple locations in a game where you are constantly on the move? A game, mind you, that has a very organized inventory system that can hold an absurd amount of anything that isn't used conventionally attack things. Why? 3:56 Because eating food is so seamless natively. Why complicate it with putting food on a plate. 4:12 You don't need storage in the house for armor. Unless you have the DLC and multiple Amiibos that give special armor, there is enough inventory space for one of every set of armor in the base game plus the DLC. And again, why ask for a way to divide you inventory among multiple locations in a game where you are constantly moving? 4:58 Because printing the images on the Sheikah Slate is lost Ancient Sheikah Technology. Photographs are not commonplace in BotW's Hyrule. 8:10 Of course the fish you drop in are dead. They've been out of the water for who knows how long. In short, most of your complaints can be addressed with one, overarching idea: Breath of the Wild is a game in which you are expected to explore. Link in this game is characterized as someone who is constantly on the move because his is a man on a journey with no clear path. The house is meant to give Link someplace he can return to, not someplace to stay. Say you completed all the Divine Beasts, destroy Ganon, completed the map, and did all the Shrines. If the house was capable of serving as a farm that supply you with any non-weapon or armor resource, what reason would you have to go out and explore? Also, this version of Link is much more definitively characterized than other incarnations with a personality separate from that of the player's. You can't customize or decorate the house because that's how Link would decorate the house after Bolson gave him the furniture he neglected to get. The Hatano residents don't treat Link like a resident because he really isn't; he's constantly traveling, as the game expects the player to behave. You can't do a lot with the house besides using it as a place to rest because that's all Link would do with it, use it as a place to rest. You are expected to pull up with your horse or warp in from the nearby Shrine, spend the night to catch your breath, and then immediately leave for wherever the wind takes you next. The house is not expected to really becomes Link's home until after his journey is over, which is never seen within the confines of gameplay.
The thing that I want so badly on links home is A DOG or any kind of pet really a cat would be even cooler! The house had so much potential and I was so eager to finish it but it's really disappointing, being able to put the champions photo was really cool and I wish they would add more stuff like that
The strange thing is, a lot of this stuff would have been easy to add... Like the indoor cooking pot or clothing racks. They already had the assets and mechanics available. It's a shame. The place still seemed empty somehow even after filling it with stuff.
Yeah, just adding a functional kitchen alone would go a long way to making the house feel more useful. (I get that it’s mechanically pointless with a pot outside, but come on. What if it’s raining? What if I don’t want to constantly use Bolson’s?) Adding that, an armor display or three, and maybe a bed capable of granting temporary hearts for free would get a lot of bang in making the house work for relatively little buck in implementation. (I can freely believe the flowers and NPC were intended to do something and cut for time, and also believe that they would have taken a lot more effort to implement and test. Fair enough!)
Most of those problems are solved in ToTK, for example: A cooking pot YOU CAN USE, a wall YOU CAN PUT PICTURES ON, a field YOU CAN PLANT STUFF ON etc... :)
7:48 as an actual programmer I can only approve your theory. Otherwise it wouldn't really make sense to give every flower it's own unique ID, because this just causes problems with performance and performance is crucial on a platform like the Switch or WIIU.
Also to those wondering, irks means annoys if you already didn’t understand with all the context clues the video gave. U know, I never really saw anything wrong with the house and didn’t even know the inaccessible shed existed, but this video has opened my eyes a lot so I just give one message, Nintendo, what the heck is wrong with you! Just make a minor update that fixes the house but doesn’t get rid of the glitches. I mean I kinda understand cause Nintendo has put a lot of effort into this game so a few details missing is ok but if Nintendo happens to see this video and decides to give Link a house in Tears of the Kingdom (totk) then seriously Nintendo, take Wolf Link’s suggestions into consideration. Also Wolf Link, I would love more “Messing with Enemies Part __” so would many others as it is so funny watching enemies suffer. Nintendo needs to redeem themselves in totk (watch as “totk” catches on)
Thanks for making the video I always wanted to! Really annoying things aren’t they? I’ll tell you what also annoyed me was after I “finished” the game it all went back to normal. That was very disappointing! Keep up the great work. Love your videos. 👌
I don’t know if anybody else has checked, but every single time I make Link lift up the rock by the pond at his house, there is a gem under it , like 100% of the time, even got diamonds a few times. idk just a little thing i noticed
When I first saw that you could purchase the house, I thought it was going to be something similar to the secret base in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, where you could pick and choose your own secret base in different areas, and with different layouts, and decorate it as you see fit. While it doesn't do anything in-game, I loved the idea of having my own place to go to and I always tried to find the most remote bases to hide in. It would've been amazing if BOTW gave you the option to choose WHERE you wanted your home to be in, rather than default to Hateno, a place that didn't feel like Link had any connection to (other than Purah). The first time I played, I felt more at home at Kakariko; after that, my favorite place to be in is Akkala. Imagine if there were vacant lots in every major town in BOTW and you could choose which one to build a permanent residence in. (also it super irks me that Bolson and Karson just won't leave after you've finished the house and the Tarry Town sidequest...)
If you haven't done the wedding part in Tarrey Town yet, there is a way to gt rid of them. Just invite Bolson & Karson to the wedding, watch the cutscene in Tarrey Town, and then ignore them for the remainder of the playthrough. If you just don't interact with them again, they'll be sitting in Tarrey Town near the cooking pot and never touch your property again ;)
All i see this house now is a weapon, bow, and shield collection and a free inn that doesn't have some special plan. That's basically the only good stuff in this house.
after placing a couple weapon keepsakes in the house, I don't think I ever went there again. It was such a shame and I'm glad someone's finally voiced everyone's opinion on it
Imma give them the benefit of doubt and say that the furniture was probably more likr a recreation than the exact same one, god knows how derelict and rotten the actual old table and beds were, or if the bed was even left considering that the door was already missing But it really annoyed me when the bed doesn't give at least an additional yellow heart
I hope the next game has a much better "home base" type of thing. I always thought it would have been cool if Hateno is like a starter house, and then in tarrey town you could build your own house, maybe even customize it with way more features. actual storage for items, more weapons mounts, clothing racks to display armor sets, and maybe some unique bonuses would all be great.
I'm not a programer, but maybe the reason the flowers at 7:53 catch fire so quickly is because of how close they are to each other. When you showed the interactive map the objects were effectively overlapping. just a theory but i hope it's better than nothing.
Wolf Link: *Has a rant about the one solitary house you can buy in 'Breath of the Wild'. Me, who plays Valheim, and built a historically accurate keep: *Monkey sideways stare and self reflection Valheim: _"The ground is shaking..."_ Also Me: "Ah, yes, now I remember why I stopped playing...it's not that I found it particularly hard, it's just that it's a lot of moat digging..."
You hit the nail on the head with this video. I didn't even consider most of what you talked about and you really helped open my eyes about how bad his house was. It's true, it's not "home". I hate how you can only store just a few weapons. I want to be able to hang up an endless amount of them tbh... well.. ok... more than 3 at LEAST. Another option for outfits would be better inventory management. I just wanna drag and drop my outfits so they are all next to each other so I don't have to look across 3 to 4 screens to find my armor pieces. Once again, thanks for the vid
I really really hope someone at Nintendo sees this and works some magic. This could have been so much more!! Clearly some of the ideas were there, but they lacked execution. Storage space would be sweet if they limited the inventory, that’s a trade off I don’t necessarily mind. I completely agree with you here.
One thing that’s personally bothered me the most is the construction crew not going away, even after you’ve fully upgraded the house like,,, don’t you guys have something better to do?
I would have loved to see a Skyrim Hearthfire DLC-esque take on the homes for Link, including being able to buy multiple in different regions and perhaps have something unique to each region for each home. Maybe in Gerudo you could have your own sand seal that came when you whistled like a horse, in Kakariko you could grow crops, Hateno had your horses, one along the water that had your own dock and raft, etc. Along with the customizable interiors and ability to interact with things that Hearthfire offered in Skyrim. Very interesting find about the stablehand and the crops both, I had never noticed either of those things. It would have been so cool to see a functioning stable and stablehand, maybe with all your horses that weren't currently checked out in stalls at your house instead of just ... nowhere like they are now. Hopefully they have time to fix some of this in TOTK.
Fun fact: this is true about literally *EVERYTHING* in Breath of the Wild. Enemies, weapons, armour, the elemental system, Slate Runes, the lot. I wrote up a massive series of documents several years ago covering all the things that struck me as sub-optimal about Breath, and it's staggering to catch everything. And the Hateno House wasn't even one of those! I found it annoying that I couldn't store infinite weapons there, but that was about it. At the same time though, every system in Breath works just about well enough, and the overall package is excellent. Nintendo took a brave new step for themselves in making and releasing this goliath game, and it's important to temper critiques with the understanding that it's not possible to perfect any one of these things without damaging the rest. Here's to Tears of the Kingdom blowing away all expectations once again!
One thing I hate is after the guys complete the house, THEY DONT LEAVE!!! Now there is the whole wedding thing where they leave only to come back after you talk to them at the wedding, which I forgot about an that essentially prompted them to stay forever....
I believe the Hateno house was a late game addition. References from data strings hint that the developers wanted to do more with the player house, but they just never got to do what they wanted.
I had no idea Hateno had some kind of hunting minigame. It baffles me how I’ve played this game for almost six years and there’s STILL stuff I’ve never done
i would have easily sunk a few more hundred hours if they had actually fleshed out this area!! i ESPECIALLY wished for at least some more storage options :( hehe... i really hope for a better home in the next game :))
What irks me about the house is that _Zelda fucking stole it._ Give me my house back! You're literally royalty! Get your own! You had a school built in Hateno! Just do that but with your own house!
@@farhaanj4330 Except for the limit on pieces of the house. Like... Half of my yard is just not used because I'm limited on how many pieces I can use to build my house. I saved Hyrule! _Twice!_ Why am I not allowed to use more pieces for my house?
@@VoidZeroNothing That's actually so true, you only have enough space to use every available room once, that annoys me so much. Even if they had, like, a limit of 20 pieces, that would've gone such a long way
On top of a more fleshed out house system, I always wished there were more house options. I loved the Gerudo region and would have loved to have bought a house there instead
Why wouldn't there be stables on the edge of town where they would actually be used by the people of Hyrule. Only out in the middle of the dangerous countryside?
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Korok forest is Link's true home. It has the only two good things about Hateno, a free bed and a rainproof cooking fire in close proximity to a shrine, all for free and with better neighbors. And the bed, despite being treated similarly to an inn, was set up specifically for Link's use.
they're all always happy to see you too and it feels more welcoming, hateno npcs still treat you like an outsider despite having a whole house in town
Hateno doesn’t have lag
@@MM126.90 yeh it does lol
Aye, only thing I'd add from the house would be weapon racks.
Hateno doesn't move at 4 frames a second and has weapon mounts for the champions weapons
Wasted potential. After I fully upgraded the house I don't think I ever visited it again. I wish after certain quests there would be souvenirs in your house, like in Mario Odyssey where you buy items from different kingdoms for inside your ship.
Imagine having a small Zora statue or a Rito wind chime! Or even something meta like an amiibo inside your house.
🤓☝Technically there is one souvenir in your house. (After finishing the Champions' Ballad DLC)
Oh id love all of these
@@MooseTeca love that one
I put my rarest Weapons/Shields there and only really visit because I purposely park my horse there when I visit the town.
@@MooseTeca the picture?
the thing that always bothered me the most was definitely the npcs calling you a traveler still despite clearly not being one
It's one thing when you first move there. But there's a series of non-repeatable quests in Hateno. It would make sense for the town to treat you more like a local the more of those quests are complete.
@@BonaparteBardithion Yeah similar to Kakariko village like when you complete all the side quests in the village everyone acknowledges you as a hero
o man, you want it to be like real life? You want to be upgraded to houseowner?
I want to escape that messed up reality of ours, no thanks 😆
not like that, being "upgraded to homeowner", just treated more like a local rather than a visiting traveler
@@geox8485 Or like how in Gerudo Town, there are side quests that let you obtain the Thunder Helm, and the citizens start to recognize you more once you’re done with them
Also that the house is right on Hateno’s border, so sometimes when you’re just walking around in the house, “Hateno” will show up on the screen.. like.. I KNOW I actually LIVE HERE
My biggest issues is the two mom's talking to each other but not you because you're an outsider/traveler...
Naurrrr I was here before y'all!!! I hate these two so much they're always rude 😂
I guess Link really is a Traveler… he lives outside of Hateno. 😂😂
It happened in the video
@@alinkinthechain yea but it wasn’t mentioned
I was looking for this comment. Whenever walking down from bed it's like "Hateno Village." It's like who zoned this place? Lol
i feel better that im not the only person who tried putting fish in the pond only to end up with dead fish floating there haha
I wonder if ammibo works since the fish are still alive
@@justinrobinson692 it does :)
@@plutonium09 they despawn though :(
@@ACAB.forcutie they are here for a fun time not a long time 💀
@@plutonium09you know i…im WAAAYY UP….mb
If you look closely, you can see that the inside of Link's house doesn't match the outside structure. The chimney is the obvious example, but in the place where the bow weapon rack is, you can look outside and see that there's a bulge in the structure that indicates an alcove should be there. The exterior model for Link's house is shared with other houses in Hateno, and if you look into those houses, you find that the inside DOES match- there's an alcove where the wall stick out, etc.
This is the biggest thing that bugged me about Link's house. I assume they changed the interior to streamline it for the weapon racks, and didn't bother to make a unique exterior to match the actual interior.
Yeah that's the only problem I have with this house. All the problems mentionned in the video don't matter to me because that's just not the kind of game BOTW is. But having more consistency in the structure of buildings is always welcomed.
So they built us the house from House of Leaves? That’s comforting…
@@theradiantdehd3997 LOL it's literally the opposite. In house of leaves, the inside of the house is bigger than the outside. Link's house being smaller on the inside could just be the result of having some portions walled off that you can still see from the outside.
I'm sure there's some kind of story behind that but i doubt they'll ever talk about it. It really seems like they had to change their plans last minute or smth
It's actually a load bearing bulge
OH MY GOSH, YES! I loved the fact that Link's house was brought into the game because it felt like a little hub area that the player could just chill out in and do semi-simulator things to give Link a break. But most of it is completely useless! And how could Link's own bed, safely nestled in a quiet community (that's potentially his home village) NOT give him bonus hearts and heal him the same amount as the random beds he can find in dangerous lands? Also, ridiculous that there aren't enough weapon, bow and shield mounts in the house for you to display all the possible "special" weapons in the game (Champions' gear, amiibo weapons).
All this stuff amounts to it being a video game at the end of the day. That's the reason. No fireplace because a weapon rack is there. No extra hearts is because they thought it would be too op/unbalanced probably to have somewhere you can permanently get extra hearts for free after buying it. Though for the price you pay for the house I don't think it is, but I'm not the devs.
You can display every champion weapon, shield and bow and you'll still have space for 2 bows and 2 shields. (you'll have enough space for the weapon displays if you only place one of mipha's tridents)
@@ruh804 ya but there's also plenty of rare items that should be displayed like kite shield and korok sword
I want a museum to place one of every item inside of to have a big collection somthing like the picture/model side quest in windwaker would be awesome too
@@kit76149 yes but it even sucks at being a video game house. Only being able to store 3 types of gear despite there being well over 3 super rare types of gear in the game. You pay thousands of rupees for basically just a glorified rare item display. There's almost no point in buying it in the first place if you're not an item collector because it has no other practical use other than to store a very limited amount of rare gear.
Hope Tears of the Kingdom fixes this
There's plenty examples throughout the game but I think Link's house is absolutely the best example of the designers & programmers having a huge amount of ideas and even starting implementing some of them before being told to abandon them due to the game being way behind schedule.
They said when they released DLC that they still had tonnes of unfinished ideas remaining & much of that would go toward TOTK. Curious if the house will even still be there...
You would almost think they'd just have added more to the house with the DLC.
honestly i wouldn't have even been mad if they added more dlc content to BOTW. its an incredibly fun, Very replayable game, but yeah i do hope a lot of the unused stuff (especially for the house 🙏) makes it into TOTK
It ought to be, for continuity. It's a 100+ year old house.
@@Tahanok2 the developers had so many DLC ideas, they decided to make an entire sequel…
It really sucks because I would gladly wait a few or even a lot of extra months if it means it's the best version of the game possible. It's disappointing to have to wait, but it's worth it for a perfect game. 🎮
This house bugged me so much! Especially as it's implied that it was actually Link's own house before he never came back 100 years ago. They had so much room to add easter eggs, personal touches or just tiny details that make the home feel less generic. A really easy change would have been to change the yellow flower in the vase to a Silent Princess. Every Zelda game in the past had these tiny attention to detail, like the child's drawing on the tree in OOT or each student's room in Skyloft. It's baffling why they even left the table set for 2 people, as if Link in the story arc is the type to have friends or ladies for sleepovers.
Wait what? I didn't know it was implied to be links old house, can you explain?
Omg hi i love your videos, pleasant surprise seeing you here :3
I think it was his family house
I thought the Korok flower was a cute detail:) but like.... the only cute detail.
I choose to believe that the table was set for two in honor of Zelda
The thing that still annoys me the most is that Bolson and Karson won't leave even after fully upgrading the house.
Same, even after they sell it to you they just stay there like they own the place
if you do the whole village building questline and DONT talk to them after the wedding they'll stay in the village but once you talk to them they go back to your backyard
@@Acroflame But dude, they added all the stuff you payed for. They did the work. They don't do anything but look very gay- I mean relaxed.
This really annoyed me. Imagine having some builders come do work on your house then decide to live in your garden afterwards.
Imagine walking past them every day going to and from work.
@@jezzlepops7186 Meh fair point.
I also really hoped I could buy a house in tarrey town. I love the design of those house. Imagine if you could create your own house with a limited amount of "cube". Since everybody in tarrey town knows you, it would feel more real. A fairy fountain close, add something for the horses and voila
Maybe in the next one we can expand Terry town outside the cliff on to the road with horse stable link house beetle house and someother stuff
Same! I thought you would be able to.
Tarrey town is the most best thing in the game and no one can prove me wrong
@@jessicaseta1581 Time to collect 4000000000000 wood and [cry yourself to sleep] rupees. It was fun at first but in the end it just felt like hours of bombing trees to get Hudson married. Would rather go find poop for Hestu since it did something and I got to go to cool new places.
Edit: ok there is no rupee cost but it sure felt like we should have been paid more than 3 diamonds for the amount of labour provided, so basically Hudson robbed us and we didn't get a house in Tarrey Town.
I'd prefer a boat house on that sweet lake
3:13 more over on the kitchen, it would have been really cool if there was a cookbook in it that shows all the recipes Link has collected from his adventures. If I don’t have the recipe in my inventory anymore, I hate having to go back to the location that has a recipe on its wall or look up the recipe online JUST to remember how to make it; when it could easily just be in Link’s home.
I’ve literally been taking pictures of them all on my slate, but idk what I’m gonna do when I’m limited on picture taking. Lol
Yeah I hate that you can only view a recipe if you have the current meal in your inventory
I had to resort to screenshotting every time I found a good recipe when really this should just be in the game
If I could add any one thing to Breath of the Wild it would be a cookbook. It just seems like such a waste not to flesh out something that’s so integral to the whole game, start to finish. From the moment you find your first cooking pot until you face Ganon, cooking is pretty much always useful and it always gives me such a calm, homely feel. I just wanna live out my post-apocalyptic traveling chef dreams 😤
@@AtlasAttakus I get it, but honestly, what's the point of a cook book or getting ingredient at all?
x5 hearty durian is all you "need" to make at any point in the game.
Every recipe is completely useless. x5 times mighty banana. Etc.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 "5x hearty durian is all you need" bro,are you fr?? 5x hearty durian may be useful,but not the only thing you need. Like,what if I need a small heal when using master sword to be able to ranged attack,but the only food I have is max heal +whatever extra hearts,also how is 5x hearty durian gonna help me when I'm climbing a massive cliff and I'm low on stamina? You also completely ignore the usefulness of cold resist,heat resist,and damage boost,because if I'm in a cold area fighting a miniboss (ice talus/cyclops guy i forgot the name of), using cold resist lets me equip phantom armor,giving me a massive damage boost.
One cool thing about Link's house is that you can see all 4 divine beasts from the rooftop. It's one of the few places in Hyrule that's not a mountaintop or a high place that you can see this.
Honestly, it's amazing how much there is to do in BOTW but also how much was cut out. When you think about it, BOTW is one of the buggiest games after all the exploits people have found. I really hope that the extended development time of the sequel TOTK was to add in all the missing features/fix the bugs (really hope there is proper underwater swimming in the sequel).
A lot of bugs that you would never know existed in the first place in a normal playthrough.
I do want them to keep the funny bugs, like the shield fly. I'd totally just yeet myself everywhere instead of fast traveling just because it's more fun
I feel like not all bugs are a bad thing though. In my opinion (and I have no experience whatsoever in game design or marketing so take this with a grain of salt) any bug that doesn't ruin the gameplay for others and is sufficiently hard enough to trigger should not be patched. Example: windbombing. It doesn't crash your game, its impossible to do on accident, and it's useful. People will typically only start doing them later on in gameplay (I started doing them with ~300 hours) so they aren't missing out on exploration either.
@@davidalvarado9957 If you try to get anywhere close to completion, you’re bound to stumble across several glitches. The ones I’ve found are all collision issues that happened during shrine quests.
@@Gafafsg I guess it's possible. I didn't really stumble onto any with shrines from my memory though.
One of the big reasons I think the sequel was green lit was because botw had a crazy amount of content cut from it.
You can see with the plants and stable guy that they started fleshing things out but had to abandon it.
They probably had plans to make hateno as detailed as places like Kakariko and Gerudo Town but in its current state it can feel empty
Iirc TotK was greenlit because they had lots of ideas they couldn't put in BotW and they didn't wanted to do more DLCs.
@@Mari_Izu wasn’t that also the case with Super Mario Galaxy 2?
@@paperluigi6132 That too. Even Majora's Mask was like that, the director wanted an Ocarina of Time expansion but the devs wanted to do a new game instead.
@@Mari_Izu that’s especially interesting considering how much MM feels like the missing second half of OoT, with the expanded mask mechanics and a completely new map.
@@Gafafsg MM was also forced to be made within two years I believe so the hero of time had to be used instead of a new Link because they also recycled a lot of npcs from oot as well. There's a documentary about it somewhere online.
The NPCs not changing their dialogue to recognize you as having bought the house is a huge pet peeve of mine. Plenty of NPCs have adjusted dialogue dependent upon quest status, I don't understand why the ones in Hateno don't
Bet Bolson never told anyone you bought the place. They paid him to demo it, and he just asks you to pay him too.
Yeah, it would have been nice to have some small dialogue changes to show that Link was part of the village.
They need to take some notes from Supergiant's Hades. That's the frustrating thing about big corporations: It's all about money, and caring too much about anything artistically is considered "risky" and your efforts just get lost in the shuffle anyways. Nintendo makes very bland, entertaining games for the most part. It's more of an exception if something special gets thrown in. My 2¢
I love the idea of having a house, but there is also a sad beauty in the house being just an empty shell.
I like to think that the reason you can't do any of that stuff is that Link is too focused on the quest to consider living anywhere.
The only thing you can do is hang weapons, and have an average night's sleep.
Why store stuff that you might need? Why get attached when it could all be destroyed if you fail to defeat Ganon again?
It shows about how he's there so infrequently that the villagers don't even recognise him
Sorry,, but I love geeking out about how the story would affect Link. Just the fact that the poor dude only smiles when cooking,,, like jeez....
(Edit: also where is that cucco coop at the end?? That is so cute!)
Wow. This is a beautiful take. I love it. Very realistic in terms of lore.
@@adararelgnel2695 thank you!! I got a little too into the lore haha 😅
Headcanon accepted. ;) You make some very good points here.
The cucco coop is in Hateno as well by the way. Head directly left after passing the main gate and go around the house in front of you. ( objmap.zeldamods.org/#/map/z8,3340.5,2080.375?id=MainField,I-7,4162242881 )
@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon thank you!! And thank you for directions to the coop, I can't believe I missed it lol
Yeah, the idea that Link doesn’t really have a home, except in this very technical sense, is definitely a thing that I can get behind. And even the one touch he can add that feels personalized - the photo of the Champions, with the DLC - is still tinged with that tragedy and the past, another thing motivating him to avenge their memories and save the princess.
I do really wish he could cook in that kitchen, though. Its uselessness mocks me. Maybe Link forgot how to cook anything except in a wok, and Bolson only realized this too late once he put in a kitchen and Link was still stealing theirs.
The absolute worst thing about the house is that after you finish the tarrey town quest, if you talk to the builders again they GO BACK TO SIT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE AND NEVER LEAVE! i cannot understand WHY that would EVER be an option!!! They even have THEIR OWN HOMES literally right next to yours and they NEVER leave your front door! I specifically never talk to bolson again after finishing tarrey town because then he stays there!
i was foolish and did terry town before finishing all the upgrades so i had to talk to him and make him come back 😭😭😭
he said he was going to travel, then GO!
LOL I never knew that. I'm glad I never bothered to talk to them after that.
Thank god i never talked to him again
Same. If I bother with the Hylian Homeowner quest at all during a playthrough, I absolutely just leave these guys in Akkala the first chance I get.
He keeps your fire going at least
they should add a second house within your house that you can also buy to be disappointed a 2nd time (until you get the option to buy the 3rd even smaller house)
Thats a good one folk
😂
this makes me think of the concept art for the minish & minish houses lol
My perspective as a dev is that they probably planned on implementing all the things that you showed off in this video at some point during development, but then they decided to focus on finishing other features and removed whatever wasn’t finished (leaving behind the traces seen in the video) because they were running out of time and/or as the vision for the game shifted over time, these elements seemed less necessary or compatible with the rest of the game.
Like maybe early on, the stables didn’t exist, so you could only manage your horses at home, but then they found that it was frustrating having to trek them all the way across the map and added the stables, which then made the stable at home no longer useful. Maybe farming was planned but when they thought about which features to cut to eliminate scope creep, it was an easy choice to remove since it was mostly disconnected from the rest of the game mechanics.
Personally what bugs me the most out of these is not being able to go in your own shed and the townsfolks not knowing who you are when you’ve owned a house in town and they’ve seen you going up and down the street for the last 200 hours of gameplay.
well their was meant to be another dlc witch wound up being made into Tears of the Kingdom
Yeah I was also very underwhelmed by link's own home. Apart from the theory that it was Link's own house before the calamity and he's only buying it back, AND the fact that Bolson sits in your lawn for eternity, it's also frustrating how little you can do in the house compared to how much you invest in it. I've only used the bed in the house once or twice throughout my playthrough because everywhere else look much more welcoming. The interactivity prevalent in BotW just isn't seen here.
You can't even keep your favorite gears and rare shields in display because you can only display 3 of each type, if you want to collect missable stuff you can only leave it to rot in your inventory space, eating up a precious space for potent weapons as they deplete very fast.
Also, why can't the house be a little bit... cleaner? It always look dusty inside, contrasting to the vibrant, pristine looks of Bolson's other architecture works. It makes me think they didn't even dust off the interior when handing over the house.
Also also... why can't I have a house in Tarry Town? You know, the town that *I* gathered wood to build, that *I* found workers and residents for? And the residents don't even seem greatful, with Hagie and his daughter actively despising you? (Hobbies of the Rich side quest) AND after you help Hudson build the town, fulfil his worth, find his love, host his wedding, what does he tell you? *"Don't you have somewhere important else to be?"*
*sigh*
I took that comment more as "don't feel obligated to stay, I know you have more important stuff to do", but I see your point. I can just as easily come across as him trying to shoo you away.
@@LaydiNite yes, I do get that's what is the intended meaning. I just feel sad how the one place you have so much attached to is somewhat actively pushing you away. Maybe BotW spoiled me with how much it already offer and made me greedy for more.
Link has 2 houses in Wind Waker. His family's with sister and grandmother. The other is the private cabana you get from the teacher after trading pendants. No reason you couldn't have one in Tarrey Town.
And the bonuses on your weapons and shields get taken off if you put them on display which crushed my soul when I returned hours later to get my max damage lynel crusher
@@_Sloppyham 😬 *Oh no, I wasn’t aware of that…*
as soon as i saw the little stable outside in my first playthrough i assumed it would be some way to put on saddles and maybe even put the monster set on a skeleton horse so it can be registered. i was very disappointed.
My poor baby Stahl horses.
@@poke-talia268 Glad I wasn't the only one horribly disappointed that I couldn't keep other animals or Stalhorses. I rode a bear to a stable once...
The stalh horses are so cute, why can't we keep them?! Hopefully in TOTK we'll be able to.
I like to think that not knowing how to sit in furniture or use cutlery is a symptom of or related to Link's amnesia. I'm sure it's not inconsistent that he retained multiple combat forms nearly perfectly and forgot how to sit.
well he was said to have above average combat abilities since he was a child like bullet time, those capacities are innate to him since he's the hero, so it would make sense he would retain them but not social norma
@@horatio1547 yeah like as a damn 5 year old he defeated adults in combat. so yes he is great
4:02 now that i've seen it next to some other objects it's made me realize that apples in breath of the wild are absolutely enormous unless all of link's cutlery and dishes are miniature.
nearly all items / ingredients are absolutely humonguous, just not while Link is holding them. For example, make Link hold 5 Gourmet Meat chunks at once, and they fit into his arms nicely. Drop the same stuff on the ground and each single piece is bigger than Link's entire torso.
The same goes for all types of weapons by the way. Lynel Crusher while Link is holding it = looks heavy but it fits. Lynel Crusher lying on the ground - noticably bigger than Link himself.
I don't mind this though because you can see the details better on the bigger stuff
Yeah I recently realized that and spent a solid half hour just looking at how MASSIVE items are with my sister and I swear to god I thought it was a glitch. It wasn’t. I’m just an idiot lmao.
9:04 this not a shed, it's an outhouse. Guessing I don't need to explain what one of those is, but Nintendo have never been squeamish about including toilets in Zelda games before so I don't know why they didn't include them here. Hateno has a lot of houses though so perhaps the game couldn't handle the extra strain (pun intended haha)
Totally agree with a lot of your points, would have loved to upgrade things like the pond and flower field and maybe keep some cuccos too. I reckon Nintendo didn't want to have players too focused on home improvement whilst Zelda watched on from the castle, however.
"Master Link, Hero of Hyrule, bearer of the Sword that Seals the Darkness, owner of the only outhouse in the entire Kingdom"
...sounds catchy ♪
@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon can you imagine if they solved the 'eating infinite apples to heal mid-battle' issue by implementing an Animal Crossing style system where you have to sit on the toilet to relieve yourself of the 'full' status condition...?
Would certainly increase the challenge of some bosses!
Meanwhile everybody is playing jackass instead of saving the kingdom, like, would rather deal with Gannon or surf a sand walrus?
@@Victor_Graves it would also be nice to display the collectables, like if it's in my inv, I'm gonna ignore it, but if I can see my accomplishments in some place that isn't a menu, it feels like I'm actually doing something a bit
We need a toilet hand girl cameo. Seriously.
I was literally JUST thinking about Beedle's off-putting, passive-aggressive tactics to get into your rare beetle collection!! Having somewhere to keep them a safe distance from his stingy mitts would have been great. In fact, aside from the art on the walls and the dining/kitchen areas, I have the exact same complaints!!
I've noticed that if you keep your "meals" inventory full, he can't trade for your beetles because you have no room for his trade offering (He only trades in food and elixirs, judging by my experience)
So, there's a way to avoid the passive-aggressive stuff AND keep your beetles.
@@ravelterthetraveler Whoa that's cool! Can't believe I never noticed that!! (I find my food inventory full a LOT)
they made it so effing time consuming to say no to him it's worth it to keep the inventory full
but once you have a surplus (of gold beetles) you can say yes and sell anything he trades you right back for a lot more than just what he gives you for the beetle - except the fairy tonic, that's a rip off
IDK. I think threatening to steal your shit while you sleep is more "aggressive" than "passive".
How rude!!😤 I give Beedle every single beetle I get just bc of how excited he gets lol
(I know there is no benefit I just love the guy)
Hopefully in tears of the kingdom you can actually use your house as a staging area before heading out on adventures.
With everything that could be functional, it would be nice to improve this in the sequel.
NGL a big wish I had is that after saving zelda
She just chills at your house while you continue what you do.
So it feels like the house is actually used like zelda can just replace the two dudes, shes always there safe in your house getting the rest she deserves. Tbh they dont have to do anything or add anything to the house if Zeldas there cause seeing her there safely just adds this emotional purpose for all the stuff you did.
This! I just want Zelda at the house, ro be able to store more weapons there, and for Lonk to have a/pet the dogs!
THATS THE BEST IDEA EVER
posts that aged well
Seems like that was a really good idea
You kinda got your wish, we learn in TotK that Zelda's been living with Link for several years since the end of BotW.
i feel like it would be pretty easy for them to add pick-able flowers and have trees that actually grew apples
There is a full grown apple tree behind the house you can chop down and respawns like all the others.
The horse gliding around the nearby fence had me laughing hard 😂
the best part was when it just zoomed backwards XD
i think the bed could have an option to let you generate a bonus heart by having link sleep in. having only one of the picture frames be customizable would have been okay too. i would have also liked one of the bookshelves to maybe contain link's diary or journal. the flower garden could have had some flowers like blue nightshade in it. just one armor stand would have been good enough as well. and the shed out back could have had a little storage spot for items.
The fun part about a link's journal is that he technically has one, it was just immensely edited out through localization (the quest log we use in game is written in Link's 1st person POV in Japanese).
I think it would've been cool for the bookshelf to maybe be a hub to reread various books you've found in Hyrule instead. That way you don't have to run like a headless chicken to reread all of them and it kind of rewards you for exploring by sticking it somewhere else for easy reference.
In the Japanese version of one of the art books, Creating A Champion, there's a picture of a photograph that was going to be in Link's house of his father and little sister. He was going to have a family before Ganon's return. For whatever reason they scrapped it, and for whatever reason, they didn't include that in the english translated versions of the concept art books.
My biggest petpeeve is not keeping my horsies there and walking around in the pasture. And I wish they had included Link's family. We would feel more keenly his loss.
I was so mad that you couldn't use the stable. I would have loved it if we could have used it to keep mounts the regular stable wouldn't take. How cool would it have been if we could have bought Stalhorse riding gear from Kilton?
Truely a lost treasure trove of potential. To let players have their own customizable garden, pond, orchard, ect., would really have made it feel like a home for Link.
When I discovered the possibility of building a house for Link, I thought "Wait, will I be able to own a house in every main village ?!". I was so excited to be able to live in Kakariko or Lurelin. Needless to say I was disappointed
that would be awesome, especially since there are at least 2 companys in existence including bolson (the gorons have one, the miners pickaxes are probably the best place to see the crest)
The only way I could afford to buy a house was in this game, and it's still crap
relatable 🥲
You can't afford a house in Animal Crossing?
FINALLY someone who craved more out of this house! My sister always looked at me like I was picky or something when I complained about the house. In her playthrough she never went there so she saw no need for it. I however am regularly going back to it and am disappointed EVERY TIME.
One thing that pissed me off beyond belief was Bolson "and Sons" acting like they owned the place. Don't get me wrong, I actually really enjoy their dialogue and I don't even mind that they originally commandeered it. It made me angry, but it makes sense lore-wise. House has been empty for 100 years, it's just business. I don't even mind paying for upgrades cus Link is probably the kinda guy that wants to see everyone be properly compensated for their work and doesn't like hand-outs. So all's good. EXCEPT, the fact they just act like they've "given" the house to us. Why is there never a way to prove to them we owned it? Like maybe they heard the legend of "the kid who held the sword" owning the house but believed it to be too long ago or whatever, but then we show up with the Master Sword and they're like "HO SHIT!". There are already 3 rando NPCS that I can remember that react to Link having the Master Sword, so obviously that's not a big deal for them. At that point I feel like it would be cool if it unlocked bonus upgrades or something. Almost like a way to bring the cozy house into the end-game content. More storage, more functionality, etc. AND MAYBE THEY'LL MOVE THEIR GOD DAMN HIDEOUS EYE-SORE SHOW-HOUSES!! Ya'd think if they found out this ancient ass dude, Savior of Hyrule and Killer of Bokoblins showed up they'd probably be MORE THAN HAPPY to at least make us a nice CLEAR path to get our horse up there but nooooo. We gotta squeeze our horse through the tiny cube door, up the stairs, and out over the balcony just to reach the bridge(exaggeration). AND GO HOME! They literally already path to go and sleep in the ugly cube houses so why the hell can't they just go camp out at a firepit there?? WHY MY LAND. GTFO I PAID FOR THIS.
Aside from my loss of composure and literal temper tantrum, I completely agree with everything you've said. You even alerted me to NEW things to be angry about HAHA. One thing that always bothered me that I was so glad you mentioned was the useless, unfunctional stable. Why even bother Nintendo, why even bother. Should've just left that empty ass field if they were gunna give me that fake ass stable to stuff my horse in. Don't even get me started on the fact that if you angle your horse in a certain way or shove 'em in too far, you literally can't get off of it. Like it's LITERALLY not even big enough for you to comfortably and consistency park yer horse there. Not to mention it's in an extremely inconvenient spot. I already mentioned the cube houses blocking the way, but wouldn't have made more sense if it was closer to the road? For ease of access? Or if they kept it next to the house(cus it's cute) but at LEAST have it directly across from the bridge or CLOSE cus the current stable is legit stuffed in the back as far as possible. Might as well be up on the hill behind the house. And the storage. My god the STORAGE, if you can even call it "storage". It never made sense to me why they put like 69 special weapons in the game and were like "pick 3"... Hun... And there's not even a separate space for claymores. We get three spots for bows and polearms, but swords and claymores _share_ three. Aka, they basically only get 1-2 each? How does that make any sense?
The final thing I'll complain about, cus this is long and there is TOO much to complain about, is that, on one hand, I can entirely understand why the house might still feel empty lore-wise. I always believed it was because Link just didn't feel at home there anymore. It had been years, and Bolson touched basically everything, and all his memories, friends, history is basically dead. The house probably looks exactly to him as it does to us, and empty shell. I also have secretly head-canon that the man's too busy thinking about Zelda to not notice her lack of presence everywhere in the house LMAO. Someone in the comments also brought up the idea that he's just, too busy to see the house as a home. I love all of those theories. My gripe with that, is I think it should be the player's choice how the house is treated. Like depending on how many bonuses you buy for the house/how much time you spend there/etc. would dictate how the game(and by extension NPCs) sees the house. For players who never go, the house can be the empty shell Link can never feel at home in, and the villagers treat him as a wanderer, but for others, the house can be yer hub. It can be the base of your operations, a place to unwind, a place for Link to decompress and actually practice self-care LOL, it can be a home. At least to me, everytime I come to this house, which is often, it just makes me sad. Sad for the potential, sad for the ugly stupid trees, and sad for Link. It makes me think that despite everything that's happened to him and all the places he's been, there is no where for him to go and feel peace. He doesn't have a home. His mission is more important than even himself, and that just makes me so miserable. I wish there was a place for him in this game. A place for LINK, not just the "Hero" or "Knight of Hyrule" but Link himself.
This got real sappy but I just make myself feel better by spending time/feeding the horses, getting their hair re-styled and talking to the NPC's like old friends. Making Link an actually decent meal for once, as opposed to the infinite amount of apples I force down his throat mid-battle LMAO. Take time to do fun things like minigames or shield surfing. Stupid little things that make me feel better about the fact that he is essentially alone. So many friends, yet he is alone. Alone in his struggles, alone in his experience, and alone in his mission. The only surviving people from his past are either too old for sense or held up by some other supernatural occurence (**cough** Zelda **cough cough**). Anyways, incredible video BAHAHA! Inspired critical thinking, obviously, and said everything I would've wanted to say. Makes me feel seen to see that other people wanted more from this too. One thing I did notice though, is at least for me the text went by too fast. Idk if I'm just stupid but I found myself having to pause often throughout the video to read it. It wasn't that big of a deal but I'd thought I'd let you know anyways!
Actually reading about the whole "feeling at home" theories and generally the house ptogressiom it reminded me about something, cant pinpoint the game but there was a game with a house (i think it was 3d) where upgrades actually made it look really good and like it was so exciting to just go inside
Or maybe it was sth else, interior progression is a common thing in games i tjink i just mistook it for sth else
But still anyway it just feels like the idea to get the upgrades to feel more welfome in the house are great
But the game is not giving this so...
korok forest is link's actual home imo
Man im glad they added custom house building to Tears of The Kingdom. You can have a goddess statue, place to store weapons, a place to frame pictures, sleep, and even (thank god) cook.
You have made me… _so_ upset… but I love it.
Here’s to hoping Tears of the Kingdom gives some use to it! Maybe they’ll let you transfer certain save/quest data (like the house or the great fairy fountains) to the new game? Make them feel properly connected. It would be weird if everything reset.
I found a villager in Hateno, a little old lady who of course asks if you are a traveler, the dialog has the option of saying No, and she will welcome you to the village as a resident.
I doubt it would make other NPC's change their dialog(cos i killed Ganon shortly after and started master mode), but it was a fun discovery to make.
as revenge for not offering a quick-buy option (and for selling me back my own house and furniture), I never talk to Bolson after the wedding in Tarrey Town so he’s perpetually stuck there, never to return to squatting outside my home.
something else that irks me: Bolson lives in one of the houses he built across the bridge from Link’s house. he could stay there, or bother the people in Hateno, but instead he chooses to sit in front of a fire on the lawn and contemplate retiring.
I would have loved if the house acted as your hub. A shelf for displaying your accomplishments as statues or something (total Koroks, taming the harder/unique horses, getting all armor sets, etc) or a new space added based on the kingdoms you visit (reading nook with plants based on Deku Tree comes to mind and a rock collection shelf for Gorons. Maybe a dressing corner for Gerudo and the Fairies). And getting bonuses based on if you cook or sleep there would have been great. Heck, the NPC houses look more inviting. Some decor to reflect Link's personality would have been awesome since he doesn't have much when it comes to animation in this entry. I love when games allow you to have a house/village and add to it based on your progression, like Pokémon Legends (although everyone else seemed to get improvements while Protagonist stayed in a shack). It helps with role-play/immersion for me, as someone who loves dioramas.
Most of these things you wanted were mechanics in link's totk house, the pond, the stable, the kitchen. Even the shed in the original house opened up
IIRC there were interviews where devs were discussing a complex building system for the Tarrey Town they had to scrap, it would've reportedly allow you to freely stack the building blocks local houses are made of. This might be another confirmation as to whether or not Link's house was planned to have a better functionality.
Never heard of that interview
Source? I would be super interested to see any scraps from devs like this.
Not to mention that after you upgrade your Shekiah slate the lab becomes basically pointless unless you want to 100% the game quicker.
Which kinda saddens me because I thought Purah and Symin (more Purah because she's adorable) were so cool the 1st time I seen them. Now it's just a monument... same with Robbies lab but I don't really like him (he looks weird lol)
Though, at least you can get ancient gear from Robbies. Literally only reason to go there. :/
Not to mention his wife is like 50 years younger than him...eugh.
And yeah, once you get a bunch of hearts and good weapons the guardian armor and weapons are just expensive and unneeded.
@@IceGoddessRukia lmao, yeah that is a bit weird. And he's so short 😂😂
@@IceGoddessRukia Isn't Zelda technically 100 years older than Link? Like yeah she was in some kind of magic battle stasis, but she was conscious the whole time.
@@IceGoddessRukia his wife is 50 yrs younger but hes over 100 so shes over 50. i feel like at that point age differences dont matter.
11:17 lol the horse was trying to sneak out of there with out being seen
Now, I clicked on this video because I was angry about the giant chimney with no fireplace and not being able to enter the shed...but now I have MORE things to complain about that I didn't notice or think about! A farming option would be fantastic! A place where you can farm your own fish would be nice too!
I've always felt this entire game was just a development showcase. Everything in BOTW will (hopefully) become very polished and intricate in Tears of the Kingdom. They kind of just made a really basic game, filled it with a bunch of functions they can develop further, and started making TOTK. So hopefully the housing situation will be way cooler and functional in TOTK
Well, that's because you hit the nail on the head. It is both an amazing game and a tech demo. A sort of "Look at all the crazy amount of cool shit that can be done with the features of our brand new console!"
Yeah, it's a pity. That house had all the potential to be a base for Link, to make it feel like he can belong somewhere. He literally buys the house in Hateno and upgrades and redecorates there. But after you're finished with that, there's just... basically no reason to ever return there. I don't even really store my weapons there, because there's not much of a point. What this could have been, was somewhere to store stuff, keep your horses, sleep, cook, stock up on resources and grow stuff you might need, maybe even make it personalized in some small ways like the pictures, but it's just a shell that doesn't feel like a house, really. What it does is just makes me sad, because visiting it while playing makes me feel like this is somewhere Link isn't supposed to be, either, and that he's just a stranger everywhere. Korok forest feels like a more welcoming place than the literal house you buy for yourself.
That little "Thank you" movement at 9:00 just made my day!
Maybe nobody else will notice it, but I wanted to let you know: I did, and it's amazing! ❤️
Oh I get it, Link was buying a fish off Impa for two diamonds and crouched to say cheers 😂
@@saerenlawliet2756 i think its meant to be a bow, but same difference
That's just a little weird habit of mine. I always "bow" to the tribe leaders after speaking with them (Riju, Kaneli, Impa, etc.) as it feels wrong/insufficient somehow if Idon't.
I also never take anything out of the offering plates even after completing the Korok puzzles and regularily give treats to my horses even at full bond, put Link into comfy clothes and give him a proper meal before turning the console off, and make sure that he's in a safe spot while I'm "away". None of these things actually make a difference in the actual game, but ... they just feel right. ;)
@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon That is so incredibly adorable!
So cool to see many of these ideas implemented in some way in TOTK!!
Wouldn’t it be so cute if you could have a little horse-care minigame in the stable and you could upgrade their speed, stamina or strength permanently? I mean, there’d be a cap, ofc, otherwise it’d be totally broken lol. Maybe we could also train them to traverse special terrain like forests, steeper roads, JUMPING OFF CLIFFS- idk lol, I want more horse stuff this game made me a horse girl.
Jumping off cliffs!!!
Actually thats what i didbt know i was missing. I understand it was done for you to not kill your horse but the way horses work on steeper terrain is just weird
Aside id love to kill my horse by jumping off the cliff just for fun.
Many of these issues crossed my mind while hanging around the house. Most of all I wanted more item racks, maybe a basement with the space to hold a lot of them.
so glad someone else talked about this! i was so excited when i got the house, only to find out that it doesn't really do much. i was really looking forward to having a permanent place to stay, given a majority of the time in botw is spent traveling. it honestly would've been so cool to have storage, stable, and cooking features, but instead the house just feels like a waste of resources. oh wellll
the point of the game is traveling you aren't meant to have a permanent place to stay the world is literally ending
@@eddyangstman Skyrim is all about traveling and you can own homes. It sold really well and got many remakes...
It turns out when you have a limited inventory having a home to store stuff and grow stuff while you adventure is a good design choice. It helps clear weightless clutter or keep those Relics of long departed friends.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 skyrim is a completely different game and also its not good its infamous for being shitty and needing tons of mods to even function well the only reason it got so many ports was bc the company that made it wanted to milk it for money
I have some thoughts about this. I haven't finished the video yet since I'm at work, so maybe some of this was covered already, but I'd like to share. I really love the Hateno house actually. I am constantly going back there to rest and it makes me feel like Link has a reprieve from being the hero of Hyrule and gets to just *be.* He gets to come to a place he calls home and relax.
I have the champion's ballad dlc and I love seeing the picture of everyone on the wall. I know you can watch the memory whenever you want, but seeing the picture hung up on the wall just cements the memory to me. It makes it feel more real.
I've seen some stories where, after saving Zelda, they move into the Hateno house as a sort of base of operations. Just a place where they can plan next steps and go back to in times of need.
As I mentioned, I am always coming back to the house whenever possible. It makes me happy to think that Link has a safe place to go and be himself. It's a little silly, but I almost feel proud of him for taking that step.
Something about this game makes me want to physically travel everywhere. I'll often have a horse parked in the mini stable thing next to the house and I'll hop on when it's time to go and explore. Sure, I'll teleport around when it's needed, but I much prefer to ride my horse (or motorcycle, and even then, I'd prefer my horse) around Hyrule. It's not a super big and vast world in reality, but it *feels* like it and it's super fun and relaxing to ride around. Having that little place I can always start my journey from really makes me feel like it's more personal. It's... comforting, in a way, if that makes sense.
Beautifully said... me too, honestly. I put Epona in the horse stable after a few hours of journeying and just chill out, cooking some dishes (Lynels demand that I eat a few things of salt grilled gourmet meat.) and being not actively playing for a bit. It's nice and relaxing.
I agree fully with the technical gaffes in the video, but I do share a similar sentiment as you. I treat it largely as a safe place to retreat to, to cook, and swap out weapons. I mostly keep one weapon of each element there to retrieve as needed.
You missed only one thing. One of the villagers up past the inn has the identical house to Link in it's completed form. The only difference is the staircase is on the the other side. :)
Also yes, my biggest issue with this game is how obviously not done it is. A mission board with only one mission? The option to demolish those god awful houses Bolson is building? To help expand the town and grow it? Maybe combining it with some Shiekah? I have a feeling Nintendo just gave up on it for the second one and put it out to tide people over. 🤷
yeah just said the same thing lol.
it is done you arent meant to spend a long time in one place the whole point of the open world and having quests everywhere especially since having a bunch of expansions that would have taken incredibly long periods of time like building and tearing down things makes no sense when the story of the game emphasizes how little time you have before ganon breaks free.
What an awful take that is. The "mission board" only exist for that mission, so what? You want to demolish Bolson's houses but that's just because you don't like them. There's no reason why that should be an option in the game. "Help expend the town" there's already an entire side quest where you build a town from scratch.
That video and your comment are just stating non-problems. The only thing that I agree was needed regarding Hateno is more dialogue from the NPCs after you buy the house.
there is no way you can call botw unfinished
People still discover new details in BOTW after thousand hours of playtime, but sure, let's call it unfinished because you can't demolish and build houses in some small town.
0:23 The commonly accepted interpretation is that the options given when selecting things to add to the house are the things Link himself thought to add to the house. Once everything that Link thought was needed was in, he told Bolson it was done, at which point Bolson realized that Link didn't think to add actual furnishings to the house, at which point he gives them as free of charge as a sort of house warming gift.
0:52 Again, the good were almost definitely a gift, not previously in the house, removed, and then returned once the building was renovated. On that note, even if the house was Link's family home, the place was vacant for some time, 100 years at most. When Link first encounters it, the house was marked for demolition because it was vacant and dilapidated. None one owned it because Link's family had been long dead and Link himself was presumed dead.
1:43 Link's bed doesn't do anything special because the special bonuses are justified in universe as being premium services purchased at inns, like massages or extra comfy bedding. Besides which, the game encourages going out to explore, and there are much more efficient ways of getting bonus hearts by doing that than sleeping in a bed.
2:21 That is just stupid. You want to have your resources spread across multiple locations in a game where you are constantly on the move? A game, mind you, that has a very organized inventory system that can hold an absurd amount of anything that isn't used conventionally attack things. Why?
3:56 Because eating food is so seamless natively. Why complicate it with putting food on a plate.
4:12 You don't need storage in the house for armor. Unless you have the DLC and multiple Amiibos that give special armor, there is enough inventory space for one of every set of armor in the base game plus the DLC. And again, why ask for a way to divide you inventory among multiple locations in a game where you are constantly moving?
4:58 Because printing the images on the Sheikah Slate is lost Ancient Sheikah Technology. Photographs are not commonplace in BotW's Hyrule.
8:10 Of course the fish you drop in are dead. They've been out of the water for who knows how long.
In short, most of your complaints can be addressed with one, overarching idea: Breath of the Wild is a game in which you are expected to explore. Link in this game is characterized as someone who is constantly on the move because his is a man on a journey with no clear path. The house is meant to give Link someplace he can return to, not someplace to stay. Say you completed all the Divine Beasts, destroy Ganon, completed the map, and did all the Shrines. If the house was capable of serving as a farm that supply you with any non-weapon or armor resource, what reason would you have to go out and explore? Also, this version of Link is much more definitively characterized than other incarnations with a personality separate from that of the player's. You can't customize or decorate the house because that's how Link would decorate the house after Bolson gave him the furniture he neglected to get. The Hatano residents don't treat Link like a resident because he really isn't; he's constantly traveling, as the game expects the player to behave.
You can't do a lot with the house besides using it as a place to rest because that's all Link would do with it, use it as a place to rest. You are expected to pull up with your horse or warp in from the nearby Shrine, spend the night to catch your breath, and then immediately leave for wherever the wind takes you next. The house is not expected to really becomes Link's home until after his journey is over, which is never seen within the confines of gameplay.
The thing that I want so badly on links home is A DOG or any kind of pet really a cat would be even cooler! The house had so much potential and I was so eager to finish it but it's really disappointing, being able to put the champions photo was really cool and I wish they would add more stuff like that
The strange thing is, a lot of this stuff would have been easy to add... Like the indoor cooking pot or clothing racks. They already had the assets and mechanics available. It's a shame. The place still seemed empty somehow even after filling it with stuff.
Yeah, just adding a functional kitchen alone would go a long way to making the house feel more useful. (I get that it’s mechanically pointless with a pot outside, but come on. What if it’s raining? What if I don’t want to constantly use Bolson’s?) Adding that, an armor display or three, and maybe a bed capable of granting temporary hearts for free would get a lot of bang in making the house work for relatively little buck in implementation. (I can freely believe the flowers and NPC were intended to do something and cut for time, and also believe that they would have taken a lot more effort to implement and test. Fair enough!)
@@LadyRegalli Bolson's pot is protected from the rain.
Most of those problems are solved in ToTK, for example: A cooking pot YOU CAN USE, a wall YOU CAN PUT PICTURES ON, a field YOU CAN PLANT STUFF ON etc... :)
The best thing is almost everything from this video was features in TotK’s ”Dream home”
7:48 as an actual programmer I can only approve your theory. Otherwise it wouldn't really make sense to give every flower it's own unique ID, because this just causes problems with performance and performance is crucial on a platform like the Switch or WIIU.
Also to those wondering, irks means annoys if you already didn’t understand with all the context clues the video gave. U know, I never really saw anything wrong with the house and didn’t even know the inaccessible shed existed, but this video has opened my eyes a lot so I just give one message, Nintendo, what the heck is wrong with you! Just make a minor update that fixes the house but doesn’t get rid of the glitches. I mean I kinda understand cause Nintendo has put a lot of effort into this game so a few details missing is ok but if Nintendo happens to see this video and decides to give Link a house in Tears of the Kingdom (totk) then seriously Nintendo, take Wolf Link’s suggestions into consideration. Also Wolf Link, I would love more “Messing with Enemies Part __” so would many others as it is so funny watching enemies suffer. Nintendo needs to redeem themselves in totk (watch as “totk” catches on)
I click your videos so fast dude. I'm glad you're still talking about this game after five years
Thanks for making the video I always wanted to! Really annoying things aren’t they? I’ll tell you what also annoyed me was after I “finished” the game it all went back to normal. That was very disappointing! Keep up the great work. Love your videos. 👌
I can only imagine link's house was the task they gave their junior developer or intern and they were too embarrassed to ask for help.
I don’t know if anybody else has checked, but every single time I make Link lift up the rock by the pond at his house, there is a gem under it , like 100% of the time, even got diamonds a few times. idk just a little thing i noticed
When I first saw that you could purchase the house, I thought it was going to be something similar to the secret base in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, where you could pick and choose your own secret base in different areas, and with different layouts, and decorate it as you see fit. While it doesn't do anything in-game, I loved the idea of having my own place to go to and I always tried to find the most remote bases to hide in.
It would've been amazing if BOTW gave you the option to choose WHERE you wanted your home to be in, rather than default to Hateno, a place that didn't feel like Link had any connection to (other than Purah). The first time I played, I felt more at home at Kakariko; after that, my favorite place to be in is Akkala. Imagine if there were vacant lots in every major town in BOTW and you could choose which one to build a permanent residence in.
(also it super irks me that Bolson and Karson just won't leave after you've finished the house and the Tarry Town sidequest...)
If you haven't done the wedding part in Tarrey Town yet, there is a way to gt rid of them. Just invite Bolson & Karson to the wedding, watch the cutscene in Tarrey Town, and then ignore them for the remainder of the playthrough. If you just don't interact with them again, they'll be sitting in Tarrey Town near the cooking pot and never touch your property again ;)
All i see this house now is a weapon, bow, and shield collection and a free inn that doesn't have some special plan. That's basically the only good stuff in this house.
after placing a couple weapon keepsakes in the house, I don't think I ever went there again. It was such a shame and I'm glad someone's finally voiced everyone's opinion on it
That stable hand Npc is so interesting
Why in the shit did it take me 5 years to see that the hyrule letters are legible
Imma give them the benefit of doubt and say that the furniture was probably more likr a recreation than the exact same one, god knows how derelict and rotten the actual old table and beds were, or if the bed was even left considering that the door was already missing
But it really annoyed me when the bed doesn't give at least an additional yellow heart
I hope the next game has a much better "home base" type of thing. I always thought it would have been cool if Hateno is like a starter house, and then in tarrey town you could build your own house, maybe even customize it with way more features. actual storage for items, more weapons mounts, clothing racks to display armor sets, and maybe some unique bonuses would all be great.
I'm not a programer, but maybe the reason the flowers at 7:53 catch fire so quickly is because of how close they are to each other. When you showed the interactive map the objects were effectively overlapping. just a theory but i hope it's better than nothing.
Crazy how a lot of these complaints are addressed in totk
this is the kind of botw/totk content i wish there was more of
Wolf Link: *Has a rant about the one solitary house you can buy in 'Breath of the Wild'.
Me, who plays Valheim, and built a historically accurate keep: *Monkey sideways stare and self reflection
Valheim:
_"The ground is shaking..."_
Also Me: "Ah, yes, now I remember why I stopped playing...it's not that I found it particularly hard, it's just that it's a lot of moat digging..."
You hit the nail on the head with this video. I didn't even consider most of what you talked about and you really helped open my eyes about how bad his house was. It's true, it's not "home".
I hate how you can only store just a few weapons. I want to be able to hang up an endless amount of them tbh... well.. ok... more than 3 at LEAST.
Another option for outfits would be better inventory management. I just wanna drag and drop my outfits so they are all next to each other so I don't have to look across 3 to 4 screens to find my armor pieces.
Once again, thanks for the vid
I really really hope someone at Nintendo sees this and works some magic. This could have been so much more!! Clearly some of the ideas were there, but they lacked execution. Storage space would be sweet if they limited the inventory, that’s a trade off I don’t necessarily mind. I completely agree with you here.
I like to park my horse outside my house and go in and whistle, and watch the minimap.
One thing that’s personally bothered me the most is the construction crew not going away, even after you’ve fully upgraded the house like,,, don’t you guys have something better to do?
I would have loved to see a Skyrim Hearthfire DLC-esque take on the homes for Link, including being able to buy multiple in different regions and perhaps have something unique to each region for each home. Maybe in Gerudo you could have your own sand seal that came when you whistled like a horse, in Kakariko you could grow crops, Hateno had your horses, one along the water that had your own dock and raft, etc. Along with the customizable interiors and ability to interact with things that Hearthfire offered in Skyrim.
Very interesting find about the stablehand and the crops both, I had never noticed either of those things. It would have been so cool to see a functioning stable and stablehand, maybe with all your horses that weren't currently checked out in stalls at your house instead of just ... nowhere like they are now. Hopefully they have time to fix some of this in TOTK.
The sequel (Tears of the Kingdom) added a pond with a carp, a cooking station,and a photo wall
And the stable (sort of).
The most annoying thing is Bolson loitering at your house permanently.
I hate how there's not enough weapon holders, I now have to PERMANENTLY CARRY MY AMIIBO WEAPONS
i want link to sit down so bad 🥺
Fun fact: this is true about literally *EVERYTHING* in Breath of the Wild. Enemies, weapons, armour, the elemental system, Slate Runes, the lot.
I wrote up a massive series of documents several years ago covering all the things that struck me as sub-optimal about Breath, and it's staggering to catch everything. And the Hateno House wasn't even one of those! I found it annoying that I couldn't store infinite weapons there, but that was about it.
At the same time though, every system in Breath works just about well enough, and the overall package is excellent. Nintendo took a brave new step for themselves in making and releasing this goliath game, and it's important to temper critiques with the understanding that it's not possible to perfect any one of these things without damaging the rest.
Here's to Tears of the Kingdom blowing away all expectations once again!
One thing I hate is after the guys complete the house, THEY DONT LEAVE!!!
Now there is the whole wedding thing where they leave only to come back after you talk to them at the wedding, which I forgot about an that essentially prompted them to stay forever....
great video, love how you showed off all your points with actual in game footage of what you are talking about, shows you love the game
I believe the Hateno house was a late game addition. References from data strings hint that the developers wanted to do more with the player house, but they just never got to do what they wanted.
I assume the little side house sheds are bathrooms
I had no idea Hateno had some kind of hunting minigame. It baffles me how I’ve played this game for almost six years and there’s STILL stuff I’ve never done
i would have easily sunk a few more hundred hours if they had actually fleshed out this area!! i ESPECIALLY wished for at least some more storage options :( hehe... i really hope for a better home in the next game :))
Its funny that we did actually get a gallery to hang our pictures on and the kitchen comes with a stove in the house. Its like they watched this video
What irks me about the house is that _Zelda fucking stole it._ Give me my house back! You're literally royalty! Get your own! You had a school built in Hateno! Just do that but with your own house!
that also really irked me at first, but honestly, the Tarrey Town house does just fine
@@farhaanj4330 Except for the limit on pieces of the house. Like... Half of my yard is just not used because I'm limited on how many pieces I can use to build my house. I saved Hyrule! _Twice!_ Why am I not allowed to use more pieces for my house?
@@VoidZeroNothing That's actually so true, you only have enough space to use every available room once, that annoys me so much. Even if they had, like, a limit of 20 pieces, that would've gone such a long way
Imagine being able to make Pay go to your house, visiting yourself
Not only pay, but other important/special npc
On top of a more fleshed out house system, I always wished there were more house options. I loved the Gerudo region and would have loved to have bought a house there instead
You are missing the big advantage the house has: the music
Why wouldn't there be stables on the edge of town where they would actually be used by the people of Hyrule. Only out in the middle of the dangerous countryside?
the idea of getting to put our own pictures into the frames would be really cool!