"The worst thing about playing MGS4 is the graphics" - a person who clearly was not there and did not shit his pants by how amazing these graphics were at the time.
I was not here for this time I grew up around mw2 however even I can say that these graphics look fantastic for the time and even today they look flat out good
Man I remember when this game came out and how utterly blown away I was at the graphics and the gameplay. I still get that feeling every time I see MGS4 and GTA4. I hope this RPS3 can somehow handle MGO or better yet the Peace Walker Remaster Coop. That shit was the peak
I have good news for you: both MGO2 and Peace Walker co-op are already playable on RPCS3! Check out these links if you wanna try em: MGSPW Co op: www.reddit.com/r/rpcs3/comments/ts83hd/regarding_online_play_for_mgs_peace_walker_hd/ipnfvs4/ MGO2: mgo2pc.com/
MGS2's Animations and Graphics already blew me away as a kid. Back when you thought graphics cant become better than that, then MGS3 and 4 came. Good times.
GTA4 looked not so good. MGS4 looked really awesome. Also other games with great graphics back then: Heavy Rain, FFXIII, Gears of War 1-3, Batman Arkham Asylum, Uncharted 2, Last of Us, Ratchet & Clank (Future Era in the States I t hink). I remember I was so blown away.
Don't forget Metal Gear Online! ❤ By the way while MGS4 primarily was aiming for 30 FPS (and failing) it actually had an adaptive frame cap and would/could sometimes hit 50 or 60 FPS. Two good examples being the first floor of the building you are meant to meet Rat Patrol in (pre encounter) and the NVG function on the Solid Eye.
Yeah I noticed that it could go up to 60 some times, but it was soooo rare haha. Also, I want to make a video about MGO2 as well, but probably won't happen before the Master Collection comes out.
@@MaxNarutoUzumakiVerstappen An easy way to achieve 60fps is to turn on thermal vision, i don't know whether the draw distance is reduced or if there's more culling but it works depending on where you are, looking at the ground helps.
Hey, great video! Just one correction: MGS4 was not locked to 30FPS on PS3. The game has an actual FPS cap of 60 and runs with double buffer v-sync. Of course, since the game can basically never reach 60, the double buffer v-sync is always in effect and attempts to lock to 30FPS instead. However, there are a rare few spots in the game where, if you go prone and point the camera directly at the floor, you can actually see the game run at 60FPS. Edit: Ah, it looks like someone already posted this information in the comments, sorry about that.
Also night vision lol. I played through a lot of act 1 with night vision on because it simplified the rendering and was able to hit 40-60fps a lot more consistently
A stunning video, i can say. Everything explained well, not a single detail missed. I'll save it for the future. The best tutorial for playing MGS4 with RPCS3 so far! Thanks! 💜
well, there's the rather big detail missing on how to (legally) get the game files onto your PC in the first place....? I mean, I assume it involves actually owning a physical PS3....
i just played a few monts ago on both, the retail RPCS3 Build and on the Illusion Build just for MGS 4. Both run very well but since the new big performance update that came just while I was playing the game, the retail Build is definitely the best for me! ran almost constant on 60 FPS with no prerendering caches in the middle of the game (like in illusion for example) the game precaches everything at gamestart (takes up to 30 Minutes for me) and than everything runs at least it does with every patch from the wiki enabled
@@ganganthefatman1382 iirc i combined multiple sources My settings are: CPU: PPU Decoder + SPU Decoder: Recompiler (LLVM) SPU XFloat Accuracy: Approximate XFloat Check "Enable SPU loop detection" TSX Instructions: Disabled SPU Block Size: Safe GPU: Renderer: Vulkan Framelimit: 60 Anisotropic Filter: x16 ZCULL Accuracy: Relaxed (Fastest) Default Resolution: 1280x720 Resolution Scale 2560x1440 Check "Write Color Buffers" Check "Stretch To Display Area" if using Aspect Ratio Patches Advanced Tab: Wiki Settings vBlank Frequency: 570 Hz (may not fit for your system) Patches and Canary Patches from the wiki. even though it ran great for me I think you should use Ocelots settings since I combined multiple sources including wiki.
When playing on RPCS3, did you play with the disc or ROM? A few months back I bought the PS3 disc and was going to play it but didn't for some reason. Either it wasn't possible or was going to be a major pain
Seeing as emulation allows me to use the pressure sensitive buttons on my PS3 controller and it's looking like the 'master collection' is not going to allow this, I'm glad I have this option.
MGS4 was developed to fit perfectly to the PS3 hardware architecture, thats what makes it so hard to emulate. It's like trying to run iOS on a random Android phone
that if it has original disk with ISO no chance they are badly configured if it has regional dispae then yes it has chances to do Look here people complain I can't play it black screens game crashes and so on I even experienced the effect as if you remove the risk from the console while it is running it shows in the top left a disk with a question mark above if you have about the original is totally different then it might work If it's the emulator it can take over the original disc but as for what virtual you can forget it's not well configured it's not well copied from the original discs and that's why it doesn't work when an emulator hangs is proof that there is no data to read further and then it stops
Played this game a couple months ago and the only problems I've encountered are some little performance drops when you enter an area where alot is going on f.e the motorbike gameplay with Big Moma. Otherwise the game is running perfectly most of the time from the beginning to the end on 60 FPS and even 4K if your pc can handle it
great video, though it could've come out before my recently finished playthrough 😅 The game ran very well on my r5 3600, with some stuttering and fps drops in some codec calls and the eastern europe missions, but overral it's pretty playable. We'll see if we ever get a native PC version, or a port at least...
@@DanielSlva Yes, you just need to use the recommended settings, maybe modify them a bit according to your PC, but the game can be finished. Just a few crashes and fps slowdowns here and there but it playable.
@@komugi0221 Oh good to know! Thanks for the reply! I've been wanting to play this game again ever since my PS3 died in 2015. Now I can finally play it!
Regarding pressure sensitive buttons - I highly recommend simply swapping L1 with L2 and R1 with R2 button bindings in the controller menu. This doesn't affect the whole control scheme too radically and it actually makes the control scheme more akin to modern shooters with L2 aiming for and R2 for firing.
This is awesome!! Thank you for your time in featuring a link to detailed system performance ratings. And such. I wonder if konami ever do Port it, if they’re gonna do better than what we got on Xbox and PC hd collections… cause they were kinda half assed & no pressure sensitive rework so it was a little bit annoying at times, then what makes my mind just straight up baffled. Is that the Nintendo 3DS got the definitive edition with the better controls and the crouch walking from peace walker, lol. It makes no sense. It could barely run it.
Nice vid man ive always wanted to try MGS franchise im a Sam Fischer fan but never gave a chance to Snake, and i dont wanna just go straight to MGS5 whithout knowing the origins, be starting with the first 1 than ill certainly come back here for MGS4 run
So let me clarify some stuff about mgs4 porting. There are 2 major situations here, the first is the licensing with ipod and songs and voice actors. The 2nd obstacle is the system calls the game uses in relation to the cell processor and due to items like the ipod, the source code would have to be modified.
If they are porting the source code to other systems they can easily go and replace the ipod model with a more generic design and tweak any details regarding that. Now, the voice actors there's no way to go around it, just pay them for whatever they deserve. Then again, this is Konami we are talking about, and they don't care about their games but only making money and pachinko machines. Like people is even surprised about it.
MGS4 wasn't capped at 30fps at all. In fact, it ran at an unlocked framerate, and it was extremely inconsistent. Game run mostly at 30fps (with some heavy dips here and there), but some parts of the game could actually run above that and even at 60, mainly when you equipped your solid eye in night mode. But anyway the point is, the framerate wasn't capped at all. Nice video anyway, I hope we can see MGS4 included in Master Collection vol. 2, even though it would require an enourmous amount of work, and we all know today's Konami.
If mgs4 comes out in a master collection, and assuming konami does a good job (lol), this video could become obsolete. I always appreciate these however, since it seems like there are always pros and cons, like with the previously covered MGS2, which was also already on PC
If it happens I'll make a new updated video for MGS4 then. Just like I'll do for MGS1, 2 and 3 when Vol. 1 comes out. But I suspect that emulation will continue to be the best option...
By the time we get 4 (if ever), of course this video will be obsolete, it will have been years. There will have been huge advances in PS3 emulation with new guides and configs. But emulation itself will never be obsolete.
MGS4 wasn't capped at 30 but the times it was visibly above 30 weren't frequent and were hard to detect, except for the moments where it ran super smooth like when you went into first person facing a wall.
I would love to replay it, but now I’m 43 with two young kids and I don’t have the time for the long cutscenes… and I don’t want to skip them. That’s a sacrilege.
The game was not capped at 30 frames. The game was actually at a variable framerate. You could often reach 60 fps in certain areas in the game. This makes it much easier to reach higher framerates when emulating the game.
If Master Collection Vol.2 comes with MGS4, there’ll be no point of certain easter eggs that mentions PS1 or PS3. And they need to rewrite PS1 emulator too.
In my experience, using the lllusion Build was the only solution to constant crashing during the B&B Corps section of act 1. I fiddled around with settings a bunch and installed all the recommended patches, but nothing fixed it besides switching builds entirely. The normal build had tons of other crashes in my time spent with it, but Illusion only gave me one crash in act 3. I have a Ryzen 5600X, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB. I tried running it at 4K initially, but 1080P was a lot more consistent, albeit a little less than perfect.
I did a full playthrough earlier this year using the main build and the recommended settings from the wiki. I only had one, consistent crash, right at the start, when you have to crawl under the truck, the game would always crash, I fixed it by simply waiting for the game to force Snake to crawl under it and after that it was smooth sailing. I crashed once more during the motorcycle run midway through (on my second go, I had played that part earlier with no crashes but I didn't save, when I played it again it crashed, I think I fixed it by just restarting my PC). Other than that I think I had a minor texture glitch happen once but that was it, pretty much perfect all the way through, tho I didn't get a locked 60, pretty much all of the time the FPS was better than on original hardware tho. Btw, my setup was a Ryzen 5 5600g, RTX 3060 and 16 GBs of RAM
Thanks for listing your specs, i always found it difficult to try and work out which build/options for rpsc3 would work best with my 5600x because secondhand information is limited and its a bit tedious to test out everything yourself cuz the ppu compile takes over an hour for each install LOL
Hey man, I just wanted to say thank you so much for this!❤ concise and to the point, only essential information. I've looked at a few other MGS4 emulation videos and they were all way off (im still learning, i've just built myself a gaming PC). This is the best video I've come across around emulating this game. I was down and out, and feeling pretty defeated earlier today.😢 But i followed your settings, and after learning how to install patches properly, i'm now reaching 4K 60fps no problem🙏 I'm so stoked! If i could i would give you a big hug and a box of chocolate
I know this video is 4 months old now, but all the recommended settings did was make the performance worse. I tried various combinations, trying one at a time, and I just went back to default plus the recommended settings for MGS4 on the wiki and it runs better. The settings that didn't worsen the performance only seemed to cause some audio issues without actually improving the performance.
Moving to Japan in October, cannot wait to buy a PS3 in Akihabara (probably the last place on Earth where you can still get a genuine DualShock 3...) and play this gem again.
FPS in the game was never locked. In some closed areas like in Shadow Moses the fps could reach almost 60fps or 60 fps. The thing is that the game did run very poorly.
Even on a decent rig constant 60 fps is impossible but its very close i will try to help coz i was dying to play this game but i couldn't run it despite have a decent rig ryzen 7 5700x3d and 4070 super. But the steps that helped and improved the game for me are updating my game from version 1.0 to 2.0 , it doesnt matter which version u use , people say usa version is stable which is something like bl3091 but i dnt have this version and i dont have a single crash till my 3rd act. So after updating game version use canary patches from msg4 rpcs wiki page.( Assuming you know how to copy paste those patches into your game patch folder) and check crash fix , fps unlock , one more thing make sure u are using latest rpcs 3 version with latest firmware i.e 4.91 and make sure your cellspur version in manage game patches ( right clicking on mgs v and going into manage game patches) corresponds to your firmwarw version. Another thing using accurate and relaxed sometimes cause audio issues in cpu settings, i have witnessed this so using approximate setting eliminates the audio bug. Hope these steps help and i have uploaded the game on my recent stream so u guys can see the graphics and performance.
Turned it off when he said “you’ll choke everyone out that you grab, but that’s not a big deal” when earlier in the video he says a shadow having a pixelated edge is one of the emulations “main problems”. The information sprinkled between the bad takes was decent(ish) though, but man… thinking Cqc is just fluff in a mgs title is wild to me.
I still find it insane that while yes mgs4 is technically playable, you need an incredibly good cpu to actually run it better than an actual ps3. Getting close but it's still "unplayable" for the majority of people who try to play it.
Using different settings than yours I can get 25-60 mostly 40 fps on a pretty weak laptop, I think the current version of rpcs3 is much better than it used to be, but there is no universal setting configuration for everyone, so everyone need to experiment with it, my laptop is i5 1137g, 20gb ram, mx 350 gpu the laptop is heavily tweaked though
As I understand it, such a long compilation will allow you to remove the compilation of Ppu modules when you get to other levels, right?) It would be interesting to see a similar guide that would show such settings that would be aimed at the visual component, that is, the best graphics. I have i5-11600k + 3070 oc edition+ ssd + 16 ddr4 4400
It does remove a lot of waiting. After you enter a new level it freezes for a few secnods on the loading screen and you're good to go. For the graphic I would there's not much you can do other than upping the internal resolution to something more extreme. Increasing the default resolution wouldn't do anything as far as my knowledge go, and I think it even adds some instability to the game. Also the UI assets don't go higher than 720, though I might be wrong about that
@@komugi0221 Tell me please, do you happen to know how I can understand 100 percent that the Canary patch was applied correctly? For example, somewhere in the logs, maybe there is an inscription patch applied or something like that? Why am I asking this question, I have slightly altered the canary patch to fit my Ppu value (this is mentioned just in Wiki Mgs4 rpcs3 ). I read somewhere on the Internet that there should be an inscription in the logs that the patch was applied. Do you happen to know?
@@komugi0221 The Wiki also has a cool method of dealing with stuttering and sound (they give a link to version Rpcs3 0.0.15, you may have read this method). So, I noticed that Snake during the new installation of data on the hard drive (when Snake smokes at that moment), at the moment when he strikes with a lighter, he flickered slightly, literally for a second part of his hand model flickered, and after manipulating with replacement and again with a long compilation, this was not) And I'm like that, come on, seriously? !) That is, I was glad that the game will now be displayed more correctly, without minor roughness, or maybe updates over the two days that I continued to play corrected these minor flaws)) In general, this is the story. Sorry about a lot of text, I write through a translator, Google translator))
I've played it in the custom build a year ago (I think), I had about 20-40 FPS depending on what was happening. I have Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660 Super. I am not sure what would be the performance now so I'm gonna ask: How much was performance impacted since your last video, if you had the same hardware then? There should be about 10% difference between Ryzen 5 3600 and i5 9600K with yours being 10% faster.
I'd say the difference is significant but not huge. For example: on the lowest points of the game (in terms of performance) I was getting around 18 fps on Rajkosto's build and now I get around 26 fps on the main build (both at 4K).
kinda sad how Kojima's push for innovative use of the pressure sensitive controls makes it kinda annoying to play some older MGS titles like 4 and 3 on emulators since no modern controller has them, I wonder what the devs for the remasters are gonna do about it
I'm so confused what I'm doing wrong because I have a 12th gen i7 and a 3080 but my game alway fluctuates between 60 and 30 and randomly freezes all the time...
@@RC--ji2ov that's what I was thinking also, I guess it was a just simple setting for me to adjust. I will say though, at one point I was using the custom build of rpcs3 and it still had the same issue, so who knows lol
@@blastprocessing1 Then you should be able to play it just fine. Make sure you have that patch enabled and try changing the thread scheduler setting on the cpu tab.
MGSV on ps4 is one of the best gaming experiences in the history of gaming IMO. 30 years of gaming experience teaches you just how special that game really is.
After 3 days of trying to make this work i gave up , it crashes alot , even when i downloaded the canary patch , and the 2.0 version and changing the setting by copying others and my own try and error .. it was unplayable either the game crash or the sound dissappear or the game stutter ..
Hey Ocelot, I've seen most of your videos about MGS emulations in the past and I was wondering...Does the game run smoothly at 1080p or even the original resolution? I don't have a problem with low resolutions and bad graphics as long as the game is playable. I remember trying to play it half a year ago and it had some 1 hours long load times and 40 fps max or something. How is the emulation of MGS4 in general? Apart from 4K resolutions
As a rule of thumb, if a game is running fine on 4K, then it will run extra fine at 1080p or lower. Though if it will run well on your PC, that depends on your CPU.
Man, excited about how this emulation is getting bettet each week... But, when i put the game serial to search for game updates the software just says it hasn't updates available :/ Edit: just found an direct download of the version 2.0, that solved my problem! Edit 2: oh ma man, after almost three hours compiling PPUs the game crash's as it starts haha, you think a combo Ryzen 7 4800 + GTX 1660 TI (in a notebook) is capable of making it at least playable? MGS 4 is the last title of the canonical ones I need to play to finish the full franchise :/
I think it should be playable, make sure you have the canary patch enabled. Check this link for more info: wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots#:~:text=cellSpurs%20urgent%20commands%20hack
@@1Ocelot thanks! after some days testing the best configs and patches i can play it very well on 2k resolution, i get around 50/55fps with some slowdowns, but is very playable! I think with just a few more patches it will be fully playable on RPCS3!
I have a Ryzen 3 3100 build and a GTX 1660s - would that be sufficient to make the game playable on the emulator? From the list when comparing R3 3100 to the listed PC, it's closer to a B-tier PC.
I have a question, I have pretty similar specs to yours (Ryzen 5 3600 / RTX 2060), I wanted to know if your specs could get you all the way to the end of the game and if this game has segments that are very hard to emulate like the end part of MGS3 or if it's more consistent overall Thanks for the video, very informative ❤
Has anyone encountered an issue when trying to load up MGS4 and have encounted a black screen? If I remember correctly, there was an installation screen when you load up the game but it doesn't even make it to that, literally just a black screen. Are there any solutions to this issue? I really want to play this game again so damn badly!
"The worst thing about playing MGS4 is the graphics" - a person who clearly was not there and did not shit his pants by how amazing these graphics were at the time.
I was not here for this time I grew up around mw2 however even I can say that these graphics look fantastic for the time and even today they look flat out good
Bruh the game was mid in 2008 in terms of graphics.
Compare it to Crysis, Far Cry 2, Bioshock, GTA IV or S.T.A.L.K.E.R
i mean they are outdated but they do look good for 2008
@@Why477 No, it wasnt good in 2008
MGS4 in 2008 was amazing graphics wise. Beats farcry, bioshock, GTAIV and stalker. Crysis back in the day however was a big holy shit graphics wise.
Man I remember when this game came out and how utterly blown away I was at the graphics and the gameplay. I still get that feeling every time I see MGS4 and GTA4. I hope this RPS3 can somehow handle MGO or better yet the Peace Walker Remaster Coop. That shit was the peak
I have good news for you: both MGO2 and Peace Walker co-op are already playable on RPCS3!
Check out these links if you wanna try em:
MGSPW Co op: www.reddit.com/r/rpcs3/comments/ts83hd/regarding_online_play_for_mgs_peace_walker_hd/ipnfvs4/
MGO2: mgo2pc.com/
ooo so is it possible to play the Metal Gear games on handheld I never got to play on emulator? Excellent. @@1Ocelot
MGS2's Animations and Graphics already blew me away as a kid. Back when you thought graphics cant become better than that, then MGS3 and 4 came. Good times.
GTA4 looked not so good. MGS4 looked really awesome. Also other games with great graphics back then: Heavy Rain, FFXIII, Gears of War 1-3, Batman Arkham Asylum, Uncharted 2, Last of Us, Ratchet & Clank (Future Era in the States I t hink). I remember I was so blown away.
Don't forget Metal Gear Online! ❤
By the way while MGS4 primarily was aiming for 30 FPS (and failing) it actually had an adaptive frame cap and would/could sometimes hit 50 or 60 FPS.
Two good examples being the first floor of the building you are meant to meet Rat Patrol in (pre encounter) and the NVG function on the Solid Eye.
Yeah I noticed that it could go up to 60 some times, but it was soooo rare haha. Also, I want to make a video about MGO2 as well, but probably won't happen before the Master Collection comes out.
bruh I always see you on MGS videos
I remember you from gsfc
If I'm not wrong it should hit almost 60 fps on ps3 in shadow moses in the hallway where Gray Fox slaughtered the soldiers
@@MaxNarutoUzumakiVerstappen An easy way to achieve 60fps is to turn on thermal vision, i don't know whether the draw distance is reduced or if there's more culling but it works depending on where you are, looking at the ground helps.
@@1Ocelotdoubt mgo2 is going to be in master collection if we’re being honest. best way to play it is the RCPS emulator
Hey, great video! Just one correction: MGS4 was not locked to 30FPS on PS3. The game has an actual FPS cap of 60 and runs with double buffer v-sync. Of course, since the game can basically never reach 60, the double buffer v-sync is always in effect and attempts to lock to 30FPS instead. However, there are a rare few spots in the game where, if you go prone and point the camera directly at the floor, you can actually see the game run at 60FPS.
Edit: Ah, it looks like someone already posted this information in the comments, sorry about that.
Also night vision lol. I played through a lot of act 1 with night vision on because it simplified the rendering and was able to hit 40-60fps a lot more consistently
@@lathrin Too true lol.
Dude stop reading my mind I literally checked your channel a few hours ago to see if you had a video about mgs4
I learned a few tricks from my buddy Psycho Mantis lol
@@1Ocelot also are you using the disk or digital version of MGS4?
@@stinkystealthysloth disc
@@1Ocelot is it better than the PSN versions?
@@stinkystealthysloth I think it they're both the same, but I've never tried the PSN versions
MGS4 had unlocked framerate on the PS3. If you used NVG and First person view, you get 60 in close areas in real hardware. Is not locked at 30.
I also remember watching the sky and seeing those fluid character movements as well.
@@osricen i think you just unlocked a memory for me
I forgot how great the MGS4 soundtrack was. Watching and listening to this video makes me wanna revisit the OST again
"Outdated graphics"
My dude, these graphics still hold up today.
He was talking about the resolution. Which is outdated.
A stunning video, i can say. Everything explained well, not a single detail missed. I'll save it for the future. The best tutorial for playing MGS4 with RPCS3 so far! Thanks! 💜
well, there's the rather big detail missing on how to (legally) get the game files onto your PC in the first place....? I mean, I assume it involves actually owning a physical PS3....
This game still looks incredible to me.
i just played a few monts ago on both, the retail RPCS3 Build and on the Illusion Build just for MGS 4. Both run very well but since the new big performance update that came just while I was playing the game, the retail Build is definitely the best for me! ran almost constant on 60 FPS with no prerendering caches in the middle of the game (like in illusion for example)
the game precaches everything at gamestart (takes up to 30 Minutes for me) and than everything runs at least it does with every patch from the wiki enabled
Which CPU do you have? Asking for myself.
@@BloodAssassin i9 9900kf
@@siegfriedschnosel5114What are your settings?
@@ganganthefatman1382 iirc i combined multiple sources
My settings are:
CPU: PPU Decoder + SPU Decoder: Recompiler (LLVM)
SPU XFloat Accuracy: Approximate XFloat
Check "Enable SPU loop detection"
TSX Instructions: Disabled
SPU Block Size: Safe
GPU:
Renderer: Vulkan
Framelimit: 60
Anisotropic Filter: x16
ZCULL Accuracy: Relaxed (Fastest)
Default Resolution: 1280x720
Resolution Scale 2560x1440
Check "Write Color Buffers"
Check "Stretch To Display Area" if using Aspect Ratio Patches
Advanced Tab: Wiki Settings
vBlank Frequency: 570 Hz (may not fit for your system)
Patches and Canary Patches from the wiki.
even though it ran great for me I think you should use Ocelots settings since I combined multiple sources including wiki.
When playing on RPCS3, did you play with the disc or ROM? A few months back I bought the PS3 disc and was going to play it but didn't for some reason. Either it wasn't possible or was going to be a major pain
Seeing as emulation allows me to use the pressure sensitive buttons on my PS3 controller and it's looking like the 'master collection' is not going to allow this, I'm glad I have this option.
Great video! I didn't know you don't need the special RPCS3 build to run this game anymore. I can't wait to try it myself.
Just wanna say your channel is a gem. We appreciate the work you do 🫶🏼
Thank you very much! 😃
What an age we live in, where we're able to emulate PS3 games!
MGS4 was developed to fit perfectly to the PS3 hardware architecture, thats what makes it so hard to emulate. It's like trying to run iOS on a random Android phone
I played demons souls on steam deack, its unbelievable
Just came across this video. Hope everyone gets a chance to experience mgs4 at some level. The final hour is just breathtaking
that if it has original disk with ISO no chance they are badly configured if it has regional dispae then yes it has chances to do
Look here people complain I can't play it black screens game crashes and so on I even experienced the effect as if you remove the risk from the console while it is running it shows in the top left a disk with a question mark above if you have about the original is totally different then it might work If it's the emulator it can take over the original disc but as for what virtual you can forget it's not well configured it's not well copied from the original discs and that's why it doesn't work when an emulator hangs is proof that there is no data to read further and then it stops
Played this game a couple months ago and the only problems I've encountered are some little performance drops when you enter an area where alot is going on f.e the motorbike gameplay with Big Moma. Otherwise the game is running perfectly most of the time from the beginning to the end on 60 FPS and even 4K if your pc can handle it
great video, though it could've come out before my recently finished playthrough 😅
The game ran very well on my r5 3600, with some stuttering and fps drops in some codec calls and the eastern europe missions, but overral it's pretty playable. We'll see if we ever get a native PC version, or a port at least...
Were you able to finish the game? Compatibility list says it can't be finished.
@@DanielSlva Yes, you just need to use the recommended settings, maybe modify them a bit according to your PC, but the game can be finished. Just a few crashes and fps slowdowns here and there but it playable.
@@komugi0221 Oh good to know! Thanks for the reply! I've been wanting to play this game again ever since my PS3 died in 2015. Now I can finally play it!
Great guide ! And thanks for your test ! Interesting to play.
Regarding pressure sensitive buttons - I highly recommend simply swapping L1 with L2 and R1 with R2 button bindings in the controller menu.
This doesn't affect the whole control scheme too radically and it actually makes the control scheme more akin to modern shooters with L2 aiming for and R2 for firing.
This is awesome!! Thank you for your time in featuring a link to detailed system performance ratings. And such. I wonder if konami ever do Port it, if they’re gonna do better than what we got on Xbox and PC hd collections… cause they were kinda half assed & no pressure sensitive rework so it was a little bit annoying at times, then what makes my mind just straight up baffled. Is that the Nintendo 3DS got the definitive edition with the better controls and the crouch walking from peace walker, lol. It makes no sense. It could barely run it.
a lot of effort went into this video deserves more views
Nice vid man ive always wanted to try MGS franchise im a Sam Fischer fan but never gave a chance to Snake, and i dont wanna just go straight to MGS5 whithout knowing the origins, be starting with the first 1 than ill certainly come back here for MGS4 run
this is a comment for the you tube algorithm! great video!!!
So let me clarify some stuff about mgs4 porting. There are 2 major situations here, the first is the licensing with ipod and songs and voice actors. The 2nd obstacle is the system calls the game uses in relation to the cell processor and due to items like the ipod, the source code would have to be modified.
If they are porting the source code to other systems they can easily go and replace the ipod model with a more generic design and tweak any details regarding that.
Now, the voice actors there's no way to go around it, just pay them for whatever they deserve. Then again, this is Konami we are talking about, and they don't care about their games but only making money and pachinko machines. Like people is even surprised about it.
Nearly 30gb this game was on the PS3. In 2008. Kids just don't understand how ahead of its time this was.
Yeah man, sitting there between chapters in awe at the graphics of Snake waiting for the install... Gaming peaked with the PS2 and PS3 tbh
MGS4 wasn't capped at 30fps at all. In fact, it ran at an unlocked framerate, and it was extremely inconsistent. Game run mostly at 30fps (with some heavy dips here and there), but some parts of the game could actually run above that and even at 60, mainly when you equipped your solid eye in night mode. But anyway the point is, the framerate wasn't capped at all. Nice video anyway, I hope we can see MGS4 included in Master Collection vol. 2, even though it would require an enourmous amount of work, and we all know today's Konami.
You don't realize how amazing those graphics were at the time
If mgs4 comes out in a master collection, and assuming konami does a good job (lol), this video could become obsolete. I always appreciate these however, since it seems like there are always pros and cons, like with the previously covered MGS2, which was also already on PC
If it happens I'll make a new updated video for MGS4 then. Just like I'll do for MGS1, 2 and 3 when Vol. 1 comes out. But I suspect that emulation will continue to be the best option...
By the time we get 4 (if ever), of course this video will be obsolete, it will have been years. There will have been huge advances in PS3 emulation with new guides and configs. But emulation itself will never be obsolete.
with volume one running at 1080p max on ps5, then this video will only age like fine wine if anything bc I sincerely doubt mgs4 will hit 4k
They've done a poor job of the Master Collection already so I don't have high hopes for MGS4
@@nialismcreates such a terrible pity that MGS is in the hands of (shiver) Konami :(
Love it, really appreciate you ocelot
I picked up a ps3 recently for this game alone. Love it.
MGS4 wasn't capped at 30 but the times it was visibly above 30 weren't frequent and were hard to detect, except for the moments where it ran super smooth like when you went into first person facing a wall.
I would love to replay it, but now I’m 43 with two young kids and I don’t have the time for the long cutscenes… and I don’t want to skip them. That’s a sacrilege.
The game was not capped at 30 frames. The game was actually at a variable framerate. You could often reach 60 fps in certain areas in the game. This makes it much easier to reach higher framerates when emulating the game.
The animations are still top tier
God, I hope Konami is able to get MGS4 to run natively in the vol 2 collection.
I've been playing MGS4 recently and man its so good
If Master Collection Vol.2 comes with MGS4, there’ll be no point of certain easter eggs that mentions PS1 or PS3. And they need to rewrite PS1 emulator too.
it wont come out on vol2
@@Barney-ii1noIt will
Fortunately I’m only planning on upscaling to 1080p so i can get that 60FPS going !! Using a 7700k
In my experience, using the lllusion Build was the only solution to constant crashing during the B&B Corps section of act 1. I fiddled around with settings a bunch and installed all the recommended patches, but nothing fixed it besides switching builds entirely. The normal build had tons of other crashes in my time spent with it, but Illusion only gave me one crash in act 3.
I have a Ryzen 5600X, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, and a GTX 1060 6GB. I tried running it at 4K initially, but 1080P was a lot more consistent, albeit a little less than perfect.
I did a full playthrough earlier this year using the main build and the recommended settings from the wiki.
I only had one, consistent crash, right at the start, when you have to crawl under the truck, the game would always crash, I fixed it by simply waiting for the game to force Snake to crawl under it and after that it was smooth sailing.
I crashed once more during the motorcycle run midway through (on my second go, I had played that part earlier with no crashes but I didn't save, when I played it again it crashed, I think I fixed it by just restarting my PC).
Other than that I think I had a minor texture glitch happen once but that was it, pretty much perfect all the way through, tho I didn't get a locked 60, pretty much all of the time the FPS was better than on original hardware tho.
Btw, my setup was a Ryzen 5 5600g, RTX 3060 and 16 GBs of RAM
Thanks for listing your specs, i always found it difficult to try and work out which build/options for rpsc3 would work best with my 5600x because secondhand information is limited and its a bit tedious to test out everything yourself cuz the ppu compile takes over an hour for each install LOL
Can you tell your settings?
This is just beautiful
Awesome. Given the shape they released Vol. 1 in, I don't have a lot of hope for the way they may handle this one...
You just saved my childhood. 💯💯💯
Hey man, I just wanted to say thank you so much for this!❤ concise and to the point, only essential information. I've looked at a few other MGS4 emulation videos and they were all way off (im still learning, i've just built myself a gaming PC). This is the best video I've come across around emulating this game. I was down and out, and feeling pretty defeated earlier today.😢 But i followed your settings, and after learning how to install patches properly, i'm now reaching 4K 60fps no problem🙏 I'm so stoked!
If i could i would give you a big hug and a box of chocolate
I'm very glad I was able to help! I hope you have fun with the game! And thanks for the kind words!
I know this video is 4 months old now, but all the recommended settings did was make the performance worse. I tried various combinations, trying one at a time, and I just went back to default plus the recommended settings for MGS4 on the wiki and it runs better.
The settings that didn't worsen the performance only seemed to cause some audio issues without actually improving the performance.
Moving to Japan in October, cannot wait to buy a PS3 in Akihabara (probably the last place on Earth where you can still get a genuine DualShock 3...) and play this gem again.
I really doubt Konami remastering this game. It was ahead of its time back when it released
back in 2006 I bought a ps3 just to play this game....and kept playing it during 5 years....online mode was awesome!
FPS in the game was never locked.
In some closed areas like in Shadow Moses the fps could reach almost 60fps or 60 fps. The thing is that the game did run very poorly.
Even on a decent rig constant 60 fps is impossible but its very close i will try to help coz i was dying to play this game but i couldn't run it despite have a decent rig ryzen 7 5700x3d and 4070 super. But the steps that helped and improved the game for me are updating my game from version 1.0 to 2.0 , it doesnt matter which version u use , people say usa version is stable which is something like bl3091 but i dnt have this version and i dont have a single crash till my 3rd act. So after updating game version use canary patches from msg4 rpcs wiki page.( Assuming you know how to copy paste those patches into your game patch folder) and check crash fix , fps unlock , one more thing make sure u are using latest rpcs 3 version with latest firmware i.e 4.91 and make sure your cellspur version in manage game patches ( right clicking on mgs v and going into manage game patches) corresponds to your firmwarw version. Another thing using accurate and relaxed sometimes cause audio issues in cpu settings, i have witnessed this so using approximate setting eliminates the audio bug. Hope these steps help and i have uploaded the game on my recent stream so u guys can see the graphics and performance.
Turned it off when he said “you’ll choke everyone out that you grab, but that’s not a big deal” when earlier in the video he says a shadow having a pixelated edge is one of the emulations “main problems”. The information sprinkled between the bad takes was decent(ish) though, but man… thinking Cqc is just fluff in a mgs title is wild to me.
Finally! Thx!
I miss this MGS4 :
Thank you, Comrade!!!
" when you have a strong enough PC "...I died.
but why spoiling the whole game in the background...
You're playing a stolen pirated version of a game you didn't pay for, you don't get to complain about spoilers.
@@systematik lil buddy you okay? someone hurt you?
@@systematik what if i have a copy of it
Might try this out, been wanting to replay it. Surely my 3060/5600X can handle it at 1080p.
I have a 3060/5600g and I managed to run this game in 4K, you're fine.
@@nisnast cool, thx!!
I still find it insane that while yes mgs4 is technically playable, you need an incredibly good cpu to actually run it better than an actual ps3. Getting close but it's still "unplayable" for the majority of people who try to play it.
It still plays really nice on PS3. I only finished it again about a year ago.
when ever i start the game it loads and shows konami logo then kojima then fades to black for eternity and the FPS keeps changing
can you finish the game? its compatibility status is IN-GAME
You can play it since last year actually with the appropriate patches.
Using different settings than yours I can get 25-60 mostly 40 fps on a pretty weak laptop, I think the current version of rpcs3 is much better than it used to be, but there is no universal setting configuration for everyone, so everyone need to experiment with it, my laptop is i5 1137g, 20gb ram, mx 350 gpu the laptop is heavily tweaked though
After following every step on this guide I still can't play this game. It always freeze when entering ingame..
Are you going to do videos on Twin Snakes, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Rising, Ground Zeroes, and Phantom Pain?
None of these works 😢 it crashes as soon as the cutscene ends and the game starts
As I understand it, such a long compilation will allow you to remove the compilation of Ppu modules when you get to other levels, right?)
It would be interesting to see a similar guide that would show such settings that would be aimed at the visual component, that is, the best graphics.
I have i5-11600k + 3070 oc edition+ ssd + 16 ddr4 4400
It does remove a lot of waiting. After you enter a new level it freezes for a few secnods on the loading screen and you're good to go.
For the graphic I would there's not much you can do other than upping the internal resolution to something more extreme. Increasing the default resolution wouldn't do anything as far as my knowledge go, and I think it even adds some instability to the game. Also the UI assets don't go higher than 720, though I might be wrong about that
@@komugi0221 Thanks for answer 👍🙂
@@komugi0221 Tell me please, do you happen to know how I can understand 100 percent that the Canary patch was applied correctly? For example, somewhere in the logs, maybe there is an inscription patch applied or something like that? Why am I asking this question, I have slightly altered the canary patch to fit my Ppu value (this is mentioned just in Wiki Mgs4 rpcs3 ). I read somewhere on the Internet that there should be an inscription in the logs that the patch was applied. Do you happen to know?
@@komugi0221 The Wiki also has a cool method of dealing with stuttering and sound (they give a link to version Rpcs3 0.0.15, you may have read this method). So, I noticed that Snake during the new installation of data on the hard drive (when Snake smokes at that moment), at the moment when he strikes with a lighter, he flickered slightly, literally for a second part of his hand model flickered, and after manipulating with replacement and again with a long compilation, this was not) And I'm like that, come on, seriously? !) That is, I was glad that the game will now be displayed more correctly, without minor roughness, or maybe updates over the two days that I continued to play corrected these minor flaws)) In general, this is the story. Sorry about a lot of text, I write through a translator, Google translator))
If I was trying to do 1080p, what resolution scale would I use
188%
thanks @@1Ocelot
I've played it in the custom build a year ago (I think), I had about 20-40 FPS depending on what was happening.
I have Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660 Super.
I am not sure what would be the performance now so I'm gonna ask: How much was performance impacted since your last video, if you had the same hardware then?
There should be about 10% difference between Ryzen 5 3600 and i5 9600K with yours being 10% faster.
I'd say the difference is significant but not huge. For example: on the lowest points of the game (in terms of performance) I was getting around 18 fps on Rajkosto's build and now I get around 26 fps on the main build (both at 4K).
you tried it on r5 3600? dont know if i should try it last time i used ciperxof build but got bored since i couldnt use mouse and keyboard
@@1738-l1j you surely won't get more than 30FPS, if that's okay for you for a mouse aiming
@@BloodAssassin which build?
@@1738-l1j Rajkosto's
Also you may sometimes get more than 30 but expect 30FPS average, I haven't tried it out on newer updates but I can assume.
After hearing the switch version is going to run 720 p at 30 i have no hope for MGS IV is going to be 60 fps
4K is not 375% the native resolution, it's (3.75)^2 times the resolution.
The Graphics are good but awkward Resolution harms it.
0 seconds in, im sold. take all my money
man i try to open this game and it just freezes on the cutscene and when i skip cutscene it just freezes someone help please
it simply wont work. does the same for me. gotta buy a used ps3
2:45 where do you get the tools for analyzing framerate anyway? I never understood why they removed pressure sensitivity from controllers.
kinda sad how Kojima's push for innovative use of the pressure sensitive controls makes it kinda annoying to play some older MGS titles like 4 and 3 on emulators since no modern controller has them, I wonder what the devs for the remasters are gonna do about it
Currently MGS3 HD on Xbox just does throws based on how long you hold the button. I can't remember for the life of me how grabs work though.
i wonder if volume 2 of the remaster will do mgs4. Looking forward to next year.
I upgrade my CPU from i7 7700 to i5 14600k mostly for emulation
MGS4 and Zelda totk❤
nice upgrade
If Konami don't push the mgs4 to the mgs4 collection V2 they won't sell anything
not sure if PLAYSTATION Now works
My current build won't run MGS4, we really need a fox engine remake.
I don't care about any of that graphic talk I just wanna play it on my steam deck
I'm so confused what I'm doing wrong because I have a 12th gen i7 and a 3080 but my game alway fluctuates between 60 and 30 and randomly freezes all the time...
" PS3 emulation will never be possible " if I can go back to that 1000 comment section from mid 2010 I'd troll everyone
meanwhile
so many idiots doubt the emulation community
You mean watch it? because I remember there was like 15 minutes of gameplay in that movie.
How did you get the Frame Rate to 60FPS?
6:51
Hey man how did you get those cellSpurs patches? I can't figure out how to get them to work.
I Try it with a 3070 and i7 8700k after 5 seconds the game will freeze
@3:55, what patches you have on? also, what version you on if any, 4.90?
Every time I try to play this on rpcs3, it crashes right when I get control of Snake in the beginning of the game :/
What CPU do you have? Also make sure you enable the cellSpurs urgent command hack game patch.
I have a ryzen 9 5900x@@1Ocelot
@@blastprocessing1that should be fine, check the setting he mentioned
@@RC--ji2ov that's what I was thinking also, I guess it was a just simple setting for me to adjust. I will say though, at one point I was using the custom build of rpcs3 and it still had the same issue, so who knows lol
@@blastprocessing1 Then you should be able to play it just fine. Make sure you have that patch enabled and try changing the thread scheduler setting on the cpu tab.
MGSV on ps4 is one of the best gaming experiences in the history of gaming IMO. 30 years of gaming experience teaches you just how special that game really is.
I was also blown away when playing peace walker on psp
It was a let down compared to the other games. The style of story telling of the previous games was completely lost.
After 3 days of trying to make this work i gave up , it crashes alot , even when i downloaded the canary patch , and the 2.0 version and changing the setting by copying others and my own try and error .. it was unplayable either the game crash or the sound dissappear or the game stutter ..
Wat are your specs? I managed to run mine after so much tweaking
You think there's any chance for a quad core CPU
For Metal Gear Online? Yeah.
For Metal Gear Solid 4 unless it's 4ghz when unparked (not overclocked) I am doubtful.
@@GuyOnAChair makes sense. But metal gear online
you have to be depressed and hateful at your own existence to play that
Does it have Hyperthreading? If so, maybe. It would have more threads than my 9600K
@@xrtac I tried getting back into the game last year and the community of MGO can be very toxic, so I just shelved it.
@@1Ocelot sadly no
Not on my PC it keeps crashing. I have replayed it on my PS3 my OLED 1080p
Hey Ocelot, I've seen most of your videos about MGS emulations in the past and I was wondering...Does the game run smoothly at 1080p or even the original resolution? I don't have a problem with low resolutions and bad graphics as long as the game is playable. I remember trying to play it half a year ago and it had some 1 hours long load times and 40 fps max or something. How is the emulation of MGS4 in general? Apart from 4K resolutions
As a rule of thumb, if a game is running fine on 4K, then it will run extra fine at 1080p or lower.
Though if it will run well on your PC, that depends on your CPU.
@@nisnast I see. Thanks for the help!
Man, excited about how this emulation is getting bettet each week... But, when i put the game serial to search for game updates the software just says it hasn't updates available :/
Edit: just found an direct download of the version 2.0, that solved my problem!
Edit 2: oh ma man, after almost three hours compiling PPUs the game crash's as it starts haha, you think a combo Ryzen 7 4800 + GTX 1660 TI (in a notebook) is capable of making it at least playable? MGS 4 is the last title of the canonical ones I need to play to finish the full franchise :/
I think it should be playable, make sure you have the canary patch enabled. Check this link for more info: wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?title=Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots#:~:text=cellSpurs%20urgent%20commands%20hack
Could u dm me that link for mgs4, my usual source for some reason mgs4 is not available
@@1Ocelot thanks! after some days testing the best configs and patches i can play it very well on 2k resolution, i get around 50/55fps with some slowdowns, but is very playable! I think with just a few more patches it will be fully playable on RPCS3!
Would this run on a Steamdeck?
the game runs nice but I have to admit the random crashes always catch me off guard
I have a Ryzen 3 3100 build and a GTX 1660s - would that be sufficient to make the game playable on the emulator? From the list when comparing R3 3100 to the listed PC, it's closer to a B-tier PC.
Im currently experiencing a black screen after the TV initial cutscene, is someone else having this issue?
I have a question, I have pretty similar specs to yours (Ryzen 5 3600 / RTX 2060), I wanted to know if your specs could get you all the way to the end of the game and if this game has segments that are very hard to emulate like the end part of MGS3 or if it's more consistent overall
Thanks for the video, very informative ❤
i gave up back in 2021 when i just upgraded my cpu to ryzen as installing it never reach 100%
Has anyone encountered an issue when trying to load up MGS4 and have encounted a black screen? If I remember correctly, there was an installation screen when you load up the game but it doesn't even make it to that, literally just a black screen. Are there any solutions to this issue? I really want to play this game again so damn badly!