The Beatles Album Deep Dives #10: The Beatles (White Album) Part 2

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @denniswood1437
    @denniswood1437 Месяц назад +3

    I always wanted to hear that early version of "Sexy Sadie" or "Maharishi" I should say. The viewer really gets some revealing insights into the songs that I certainly never knew before with this deep dive. You've surpassed yourself here Jeff. Astounding!

    • @gabrielgarbow3784
      @gabrielgarbow3784 Месяц назад +2

      Agreed. I'd never heard this tidbit before, either. The lyric change - though apparently based on phonetic similarity - has the unfortunate effect of recasting the song as a chastisement of a woman. It thus recalls some of Lennon & Dylan's other bitter takedown songs with misogynist leanings.

    • @denniswood1437
      @denniswood1437 Месяц назад

      @@gabrielgarbow3784 Gabriel, I think the song "Sexy Sadie" is just an honest reaction to the way (in this case Sadie can be inferred to be a woman) he/she was dishonest and made a "fool of everyone." You're right that there are songs out there that are blatantly misogynistic, but "Sexy Sadie" isn't one of them.

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you! 😊

    • @scottbubb2946
      @scottbubb2946 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, I read a lot of things on The Beatles; books, articles, etc, and watch a lot of videos. I always think I know everything about them. But then, I come here and watch Jeff's videos and I learn a lot of stuff I had no idea of. When you watch other channels and hear the same thing over and over, you I start thinking, "I know all this stuff." That's why I love this channel so much. I always see, or hear, something new to me.
      I also really like the videos where Jeff lays into the trolls. It's very satisfying.

  • @aaronmuthaalamare4165
    @aaronmuthaalamare4165 16 дней назад

    Another phenomenal DD into my favorite Beatles album, amazing work as always Jeff👏👏👍🤘🤘

  • @mysticchordz8846
    @mysticchordz8846 Месяц назад +1

    Wonderful Jeff, I always look forward to your deep dives, especially Beatles. I was barely a teenager when it came out but loved it all in all. I’ve never been able to listen to Revolution #9 all the way through, but loved the stripped down, not extremely polished songs. It made them seem more real I can’t imagine this being a single album, it’s weirdness is what makes it what it is if that makes sense. It’s still my favorite Beatle album all in all. Kudos Jeff, not many can say they told Sir Paul to shut up😮 Awesome!!! 😂

    • @gabrielgarbow3784
      @gabrielgarbow3784 Месяц назад

      Yeah, I think the full impact of the album is in its shambling, off-kilter messiness. You could make a great single album out of the songs, but you could not make a *legendary* one.

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад

      Thanks! Even though I agree with the larger point Paul was making. 😃

  • @larrymills9630
    @larrymills9630 Месяц назад

    Jeff, another great series. Thanks for your time and effort compiling these!
    I love the White Album. I go back and forth between it and Revolver as my favorite Beatles records. For me, the quantity of material and all the different styles of songs are what give the record its charm.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 Месяц назад +1

    You're a mother fucking rebel man! Trying to fight the YT algorithms. That's not easy. But it's probably why you're not getting as many views and likes as you deserve. I'm really grateful for you not compromising the content for your presentations. I watched the first part of this four times. I'll probably watch this another two times over the next few days. This is some strong stuff man. Thanks.

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад +1

      It really grinds me because this series could be soooo much more impactful if I could use full songs rather than 10 seconds clips. I had no issues when I did my Stones series but dodging the Apple copyright police has made this one a huge challenge.

  • @WhizzRichardThompson
    @WhizzRichardThompson Месяц назад +2

    I like your disagreement with Paul. That made me genuinely laugh.

  • @hankwedelmusic9965
    @hankwedelmusic9965 Месяц назад

    Wonderful presentation capturing the vibe around this masterpiece…
    I completely agree with you
    that it’s their greatest work and it’s also my favourite Beatle album…
    I was 5 in 1968, and thanks to my Dad, COMPLETELY aware of The Beatles since “Pepper”
    the year before, had the “Hey Jude/Revolution” single,
    saw them performing the single songs on
    “The Smother Brothers Comedy Hour”
    and had seen the
    “Yellow Submarine” cartoon movie, I was ready for it
    and truth be told, if there’s a single reason why I’ve made
    my way in this world
    as a musician,
    it’s because of hearing
    “The White Album”…
    it seemed to me there was no other way to live my life
    but to follow what I believed the instructions it provided…
    It’s important to recall, however,
    for all its eclectic genius,
    it was made into a double album NOT because they were being generous
    or expansively artistic…
    but ONLY because
    they were fulfilling a song publishing quota for
    Northern Songs…
    and really wanted to renegotiate publishing terms
    in their favour…
    the fact that Frank Zappa and Bob Dylan had made double albums previously
    meant there was a precedent…
    That aside, it presented them as
    more than capable of being able to compete
    with EVERYONE in the game
    in 1968…
    Dylan, The Stones,
    The Band, The Dead,
    Zappa, The Beach Boys,
    The Doors, The Who, Cream, Jimi, The Incredible String Band
    and Donovan…
    It captured global attention
    even more than “Pepper”
    in its reach into human imagination…
    Good and Bad…
    From Charlie Manson
    to every act at Woodstock...
    and it completely copperfastened the 1960s hippie ethos to the media narrative until
    punk rock came along…
    And with The Apple Label up and running, it’s also a serious model for “indie”
    rock bands controlling and releasing their work…
    I believe that a Peter Jackson style production of Beatles footage in 1968…
    The singles, India, the launch of Apple and all culminating with a focus on
    the John/Paul/ George Martin 24 hour sequencing session
    at Abbey Road Oct 16-17 Oct, a deep dive with Chris Thomas
    and any other Abbey Road staff still alive
    would be as fascinating as the recent
    “Get Back” doc.
    With regards to the idea of it woulda been better as a single album, how bout THIS?
    TWO SINGLE ALBUMS
    “John’s White”
    open.spotify.com/playlist/160SGo816eGIoHyHZE34tk?si=ETRP-GP9Q5eDDtcHxgxY9w&pi=e-BiyZV629R4yP
    “Paul’s White”
    open.spotify.com/playlist/0J4r4ZRfMe4ZaSSKB1Lz32?si=R16uvnEcQsGiMMdk7Gkmkg&pi=e-gd2DKOR7QQmp
    ONE 4 SONG EP
    “George’s White”
    open.spotify.com/playlist/4WtQvCTm9TlxfNheW7OOuQ?si=2eXzS8waRWie3RorUA4Iyw&pi=e-YMsjm8wKQLGT
    ONE SINGLE
    “Ringo’s White”
    open.spotify.com/playlist/1eYw02C0nFqhMZdmm4AKRq?si=RJ-_H1YNR9aCjH6yTz7RGA&pi=e-kE-m4d8XRCOM
    Each playlist very much predicts their subsequent individual solo journeys
    in the 1970s and beyond…
    Finally, as a parting shot, even tho’
    it’s perceived as a deathknell of
    The Beatles, ain’t it interesting how despite the hassles they were dealing with that they delivered
    The Get Back roof show, “The Ballad of John and Yoko” and
    “Abbey Road” by September 1969?

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you for that beautiful comment. I would love to see Peter Jackson do another Beatles documentary and 1968 would be a great year to cover. Abbey Road, while a great album, didn’t have near the musical or cultural impact that the White Album did. I was a Beatles fan before I heard the White album but the instant I heard it they became my favorite band and have remained so 45 years later.

  • @johnlorinc2081
    @johnlorinc2081 Месяц назад

    Hi Jeff! Yes.....the White Album needed to have four sides. Although, let's be honest.....there is a killer single album hiding inside here. But, when it's all said and done, it's fine just the way it is. I don't listen to it nearly as much as others......but when I do, it's always special. Great video once again!

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks John! Only in 1968 would the Beatles have been able to get away with releasing some of these songs 😃

  • @theflipside-vinylcommunity
    @theflipside-vinylcommunity Месяц назад

    Jeff another incredible video they keep getting better

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 22 дня назад

    They booted deep dive number 12! The good news for me is that I saw it 2 minutes after you posted it. I wondered why the comments I left had disappeared. Now I know. Flagged tagged and bagged really sorry about that, Jeff it was just fantastic! I'm one of the handful of people that saw before they brought it down. Hope you'll find a way to rework itself it passes the sensors. The way you had it was perfect though. Too bad billionaires with more money than us make the decisions on these things. The interviews were just great as well! Television? Next deep dive?

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 Месяц назад

    You put a lot of work into this man. It's steel reserve time!

  • @tomflorio3639
    @tomflorio3639 Месяц назад

    I have been listening to Sides 3 &4 in anticipation of this vid. I already have a deeper appreciation for them after watching your vid. I don't know why John had to go from Maharishi to Sexy Sadie - seems like an extreme attempt to hide the identity of it's subject. Could have just not named him, or given him a man's name, but what do I know. Great job, Jeff!

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you! I think it was George who convinced John not to use Maharishi’s name in the song. I think George was a little more sympathetic towards rMaharishi.

    • @tomflorio3639
      @tomflorio3639 Месяц назад

      @@jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486 Yes, I understand not using his real name, I'm just wondering why the alias John chose was that of a "sexy woman".

  • @ThePhantomBeatlemaniac-t2r
    @ThePhantomBeatlemaniac-t2r Месяц назад

    I've always thought the "can you take me back where I came from?' bit was part of "Cry Baby Cry". I only heard recently that it was apparently a separate song begun by Paul. It seems to fit in the Lennon song, which is evocative of childhood and bedtime nursery stories, so I always heard it as kind of a haunting ad lib to that track. It's perfectly placed where it is.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 Месяц назад

    I'm back for round two of round two.

  • @johnw706
    @johnw706 Месяц назад

    Great stuff , as usual .
    Actually , I think the perfect White album would be 3 sides of vinyl , as there's too many good songs for just a single album . Maybe a single CD .
    I would eliminate the tracks : Wild Honey Pie , Helter Skelter , Revolution 9 , Why Don't We Do It in the Road ? , Yer Blues , Rocky Raccoon , Honey Pie , and Don't Pass Me By ( sorry Ringo ) .
    I made a playlist of the rest of the songs in a different order :
    Let me know what you think .
    Side 1:
    Birthday
    Everybody's Got Something to Hide
    Glass Onion
    Savoy Truffle
    Martha My Dear
    Sexy Sadie
    Blackbird
    Back in the USSR
    I'm So Tired
    Piggies
    Dear Prudence
    Good Night
    Side 2 :
    Ob-La-DI , Ob-La-Da
    While My Guitar Gently Weeps
    Mother Nature's Son
    Cry Baby Cry
    I Will
    Happiness is a Warm Gun
    Long, Long, Long
    Revolution 1
    The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
    Julia
    ( Yes , I know that Back in the USSR is a natural side opener , but I wanted to change it up a bit )
    Cheers !!

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад

      I notice you kept the original side closers for side 2 and 4 but switched them up. I like it. I think Birthday is a great album opener, even if John called it “a piece of garbage” in his last Playboy interview (I disagree vehemently with him). Would be interesting to actually listen to this with Back in the USSR not opening a side. If Capitol was still issuing their own versions of Beatles albums in 1968 I wonder what this album would have looked like?

  • @scottbubb2946
    @scottbubb2946 Месяц назад

    I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to decide which songs would be cut if it were released as a single disc. Of course, I really like a lot of the songs that aren't as popular. I really like Bungalow Bill, Ob-La-Di, Honey Pie, Warm Gun, Rocky Raccoon, Piggies... those are my favorites. Dear Prudence is actually my favorite Beatles song. Followed by Across The Universe.
    I did think it was strange the therr were no songs featuring sitar. I thought it was because George didn't have one in India. I didn't know he had given it up to focus on guitar.

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад +1

      Apparently it takes a VERY long time to master the sitar and he decided it was better to stick with an instrument he was already very good at.

  • @Slotnikoff
    @Slotnikoff Месяц назад

    My single disc version of The Beatles' White Album?
    Side 1
    While My Guitar Gently Weeps
    I Will
    Dear Prudence
    Savoy Truffle (either the mono mix or the one you can now catch on RUclips that edits out those noisy horns)
    Mother Nature's Son
    Sexy Sadie
    Don't Pass Me By (hey, you gotta have a Ringo song)
    Side 2
    Martha My Dear
    Happiness Is A Warm Gun (mono mix)
    Piggies
    Helter Skelter
    Long Long Long
    Cry Baby Cry
    Blackbird
    (then after a few seconds of silence)
    Revolution 1
    I regret not having any room for 'Julia'; perhaps it could take the place for 'Piggies'.
    My version is a bit over 47 minutes... conventional timing more or less for an album way back when.

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад

      While My Guitar would have been a great album opener. Interesting you omitted Back In The U.S.S.R. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍

    • @Slotnikoff
      @Slotnikoff Месяц назад

      @@jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486 I forgot to note it, but I would also make sure it was the mono mix of 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps' that was on my single disc version. While I feel that Sir Macca does a great job on the drums for 'Dear Prudence', I feel too strongly that Ringo would have provided for a lot better drumming on 'Back In The U.S.S.R.' I can't listen to the track with knowing this!

  • @WhizzRichardThompson
    @WhizzRichardThompson Месяц назад

    A slightly patchy album imo, but the top songs are sublime.

  • @ThePhantomBeatlemaniac-t2r
    @ThePhantomBeatlemaniac-t2r Месяц назад

    I've never been able to wrap my head around what happened to "Not Guilty", irrespective of his arguable merit or lack of merit as a song. How do you try 100+ takes of a thing, and then not use it?
    And after a recording marathon like that, which had to span several days at least, surely George had some brass balls after the fact to say that the band ignored his songs all the time and didn't take his stuff seriously. Seriously, George?

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад

      Absolutely! At the very least you’d think they would have stuck it on a b-side somewhere. That has to be a record number of takes devoted to an unreleased song. Curious how many takes it took George to nail the version on his self titled solo album.

  • @nelsonmaud1
    @nelsonmaud1 Месяц назад

    Loving all these deep dives the white album is probbly my least favorite but still a great album i still not a fan ofno. Do it in in the road goodnight my favorit songs are helter skelter glass onion yer blues while my guitar gently weeps strawberry truffle bu
    t no hate on any songs some can give or take

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад

      Thanks! This is the first Beatles album where songs that would have been previously discarded or used as b-sides make it onto an album. That being said, I do like the weirdness of some of these tracks.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 Месяц назад

    1 this is something interesting not there is some John and Yoko Ono bootleg which has them portrayed naked on the front cover with pigtails and pig noses! I don't know what the music is like but I always got to laugh out of seeing that in the early 80s when I saw those at record shows.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 Месяц назад

    Well paul, if you're only going to be cartoons anyway. Why not make give my regards to broad street. The anime film! Ready for that.. me neither.

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад

      Yeah just when you thought he couldn’t do worse than Magical Mystery Tour he put out that turd of a film.

  • @theflipside-vinylcommunity
    @theflipside-vinylcommunity Месяц назад

    Get on your knees 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 Месяц назад +1

    Hey Jeff here's something really scary. Did you know for no reason at all. Thompson twins did a cover of revolution? It's really bad. How bad you ask? So bad that it's never appeared on any of their compilations even import ones outside of its 1984 or so release. This just stinks.
    1 here's another stinker for you. Allison moyet did her cover of Zeppelin's black dog. Yikes! Cover your ears cuz this is one of the worst l z covers human kind will ever know.

    • @tomflorio3639
      @tomflorio3639 Месяц назад

      I remember seeing the Thompson Twins perform it at Live Aid - joined on stage by Nile Rodgers, Steve Stevens, and Madonna. They didn't help; it was still terrible. And the lead singer kept forgetting lyrics. 😄

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад +1

      That Thompson Twins cover was the WORST. I’m embarrassed to say I have the 12” single of that version (in fairness someone sent it to me). 😂😂

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 Месяц назад

    Lennon was so full of crap about helping people start their own film production and everything. Apple never actually used any of those thousands of demos that they got from all these people. They were just trying to find a way out of paying all those taxes. All they did was end up paying for people's massive alcohol consumption for a year or so there. It's really strange. They ended up losing most of that money anyhow. Apple doesn't know what they're doing! That new mono us records does have one nice thing about them. They have reproduced the inner sleeves that were originally released with the albums at the time however, I can't see wasting your money on stereo fold Downs of mono mixes even if they're remastered. They're simply inferior to the British counterparts. And there's no way that any of this folly can justify this. And the cherry on top is that awful, awful to LP history of interview that record! It's been shunned by capital for 50 years. Yet if you wanted to pay $140 extra dollars to get that box set with a book you could. Why would you. If I had that to LP interview disc. I'd use it as a format for when I get out of the shower. It would still be better used that way than listening to it!

    • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
      @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486  Месяц назад

      Don’t get me started on what a fleece job that new box set is. I am boycotting it on principle. 😡🤬