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Great video! I was blown away when I captured a clip of a gradient sunset sky with my Blackmagic Pocket 4K, and my old GH4, keyed it and graded it heavily in resolve, and realised how weak the 8 bit footage from the GH4 was and how elastic the 12 bit footage from the Pocket 4K was. While the GH4 shown extremely noticeable different areas in the sky, the Pocket 4K shown a actual gradient. Everything is more tridimensional.
@@johnstamw I agree. Nice frames and colors. Is there any way to look at some of your pics before color grading? What soft do you use? And what lenses? Thanks! :)
Thanks for the video, this was actually very helpful! The differences I can see watching on my phone are the X-T3 files are more contrasty, have a slightly green tint, and the skin is a little bit less flattering on the film sim. I'll be shooting 100mbps straight out of camera for personal videos now!
bro i really wish i would've seen your vid when i started, all this took me so many hours of research and experience and you did it all in 6 mins, ,thank you::)
I've been debating selling my xt30 for an xt4 for the internal 10-bit and IBIS. This was really helpful to see and conceptualize the difference. Much appreciated!
Very timely with the X-S10 releasing this week with only 8bit. The 8bit looks a lot more harsh with clear, darks, lights and some mids. While the 10Bit has a lot more gradation of exposure and color to it. For $1000-$1700 you can't find a cheaper 10bit camera which is so feature packed as the X-T4/3. The new X-S10 at $1000 is best for international travel for personal photography with a bit of video or blog on the side.
John Stambaugh let us know if you’d like a couple Hazard 4 mil-spec packs/slings for your Fuji kit. We bought your LUT to use on our latest product video. Hazard4.com Drawbridge pack video. The Freelance sling or Pillbox pack would be best for your needs probably.
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It was really helpful. It's been a few weeks with my New xt3 And i feel like i should just bought used xt20.. Xt3 is overkill for my need 🤣🤣 Still loving it tho 😍 Thanks for an amazing info 😜
Chroma subsampling could be another decisive factor. Like maybe 8-bit 4:2:0 vs 10-bit 4:2:0 is not gonna make a huge difference, but when you go 10-bit 4:2:2, maybe you can really get the benefit of those 10 bits and 100 extra megabits per second. Just a thought.
After watching a lot of your videos I can finally say that Your channel made my decision. I’m getting the xt4! I subscribed and I’m looking forward to see more videos coming from you. Thank you very much John!
Thank you! I really like this real life review. I'm looking for an update for my x-t200 and I wasn't sure if xh2s is better for youtube than x-s20. No I think that I would not need prores for most of the time and just can go with 10 bit 200mb long Gop. Thanks again!
@@johnstamw yes true-world famous for1.One horned Rhinoceros in the world in Kaziranga wildlife sanctuary 2. from here from Assam ,the tea reaches London during 1830s.If you come to Assam ,It would be our honor!
The difference is in PSNR. The noise of the compression is higher in lower bitrates and lower bitdepths. The shadows of the 8bit compressed formats of the XT4 are very bad, blocky and quarantized, but the shadows of the 10bit format are pretty good. PSNR noise is visible in anything that has low exposure (shadows and mids) and anything that is raised when boosting exposure in post. Every extra dB of PSNR counts. The same applies to the Prores formats. The difference from one format to the next is only a few dB but many people need that difference. If one will just shoot, cut and upload without raising shadows, the lowest quality format in XT4 is more than enough for 5-10Mbit/sec H264 1080p distribution.
@@johnstamw Apple have some PSNR values in page 16 here: www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_White_Paper.pdf Formats are compared using PSNR. There are some comparisons for GOP here: www.researchgate.net/publication/273187466_Impact_of_H264AVC_and_H265HEVC_compression_standards_on_the_video_quality_for_4K_resolution A given PSNR is an horizontal line, so bitrates are compared by drawing horizontal lines. Any bitrate savings are shown this way. Intra requires higher bitrate for the same PSNR. Quality depends on implementation. Cameras have to operate in low power and work fast, so they do not employ the best methods. I got an XT4 with the three f2.8 zooms, so I'm doing tests these days. 10bit is really good.
@@johnstamw honestly Just what kind of things change in camera such as the tone curve , if you add color, noise reduction, etc. and maybe your auto focus settings 😁
I know I'm (2) years late but, new to the XT4 and...in 4K All-Intra, it wont even let me select 100 or 200... It automatically makes you shoot 400mpbs.. Gonna try and shoot in 4K LongGOP, 200mpbs and see what it looks like. And you mentioned this is what needs to be selected to shoot 4K 60fps.. We'll see !!! Thanks for this video tho !
This is super helpful! I'm currently trying to decide between the Fuji X-S10 and the XT4 and I know the X-S10 can only do 8-bit internally so that was one of my considerations. I'm not a pro BUT enjoy editing BUT don't have a monster computer (at least not now) so...this helps a lot! Still other things to consider with the decision but this helps a lot!
Thanks for your efforts here, I think you showed the differences very well for a video newbie like me. I have an X-T3 and was trying to work out what settings would be best for me for home movies of my children. Ideally I want to capture in the best possible format so it doesn't look too dated in the future, just a shame my older MacBook Pro won't let me play h.265 at all.
How about comparing Long GOP vs inraframe using a panning shot across different scenes. e.g. polka dots of different colors including some black ones. And some sports action to show motion blurring. Long GOP seems to fall apart when a large percentage of the shot changes frame-to-frame.
Thank you for this simple yet informational video! I usually shoot 4K24/25/60p, Flog, 10-bit, h.265, 200 Mbps, Long GOP, and it's great to work with. Looking forward to seeing that video on Flog, and would like to know how you set the sharpness setting in camera and do you add sharpening in post?
Any way to shoot HDR video with the XT4? Shooting, editing and exporting settings in premiere pro (without any HDR monitor or recorder)? And while H265 10bit is obviously required, is Flog really that needed or Eterna can do the job?
@@johnstamw o that would be too optimistic. We haven't even got a simple film simulation from xt4 and the color fx blue . I think that dual card recording and 240fps would completely destroy their xt4 sales.
Hey friend, i have a xt3 the only thing i am struggling with is the dynamic range. I see your videos and your skys are sometimes bright but not too blown out. Id love to see a video on how you shoot something with your settings and how you treat it in post for color corrction to achieve the dynamic range you are getting. Thank you for everything, you're one of the reasons i got a fujifilm x-t3
@@Tavostor Thanks. This helps in the choice of my future gear (S5, X-t4 or R6) Videowise, then the X-t4 seems the best with 10 nits 400 mbps and only 4.2.0 internal.
There is a great difference between your 10bit and 8bit footage, but I wonder how they would look if they were bot f log and colored the same way, as film simulations could be the reason I don't like 8bit in this example. Thanks for the great example)
Yes the color and look is different because of F-Log as you said, however the screenshot I provided of the curves from Davinci is a helpful example of the data difference! Also the reason I recorded this way is because I personally don’t recommend F-Log in 8bit because I think it needs more data in order to safely withstand grading.
Nice vid bro! Really great to see the difference in the quality. 10 bit def better but I don’t think one would notice if it wasn’t side by side. Just got saving data sake on long wedding days I think 8 bit will do. But perhaps 10 bit would help during receptions or low light scenes for editing? I should do some testing myself instead of speculating hahaha
I was surprised to find that my eyes actually can tell the difference between these two shots.Its a noticeable downgrade in quality going to the xt3 footage here. I'm just not sure what changes in settings are the main reason for that. Is it the 8 bit? the mbps? the baked in simulation? So far I shoot 200 mbps, 10-bit, usually using classic chrome on my xt4. Not sure if should try changing it up yet. I have a powerful machine, but still need to use proxies.
@@johnstamw It's because I would like to know how long I can record before filling a 64-128 card, you know? In 4k, 10 bits, 200mb/s. Would you know how to answer me?
Hmmm as long as your exporting 4k h264 and it looks good on your devices locally I’m not sure why youtube compression would be too much?? I’m sorry it’s not exactly my expertise!
@@johnstamw thanks man! Yes indeed exporting at those exact settings however when I watch my videos on a laptop or TV they look awful. Someone suggested a ProRes 422 export, does that make sense? I’m ok FCPX too. Thank you loads for the feedback!
wow ! the diffrence is so big for someone that has been studying cinematography, i jut got a xt3 and i filmed on 8bit im tottaly doing in 10bit 200mbpnow, im wondering what sd they use
Very practical presentation! I am barely functioning with 10-bit 200 myself but I can manage if I convert the files to Pro Res first (I use EditReady but there must be many other options). Just to add another layer, here is what is perplexing to me, as I am considering getting an Atomos Ninja V: If I understand the menu screen on my Fuji, if I send a signal out to the Ninja it will go out at 10-bit 4:2:2 (no other options). So my question is, does that change the mbps as compared to recording internally at 10-bit 4:2:0? I would imagine so but I haven't noticed the answer anywhere yet. Perhaps I am confusing different issues. Anyone's insights appreciated. - Dave
Extremely useful..Thanks a lot.. Right now we are struggling to chose between xs10 vs xt4 for these very same feature differences.. Do you think 8 bit vs 10 bit , or 1080p vs 4K 60 matters for Instagram uploads for bridal portraits¿
thanks for the breakdown and samples. Those shots with the white boarders look super sharp.. is that a layout you uploading into ? Or made those boarders in your editing software? Thanks!
is there any other way to shoot 10bit on fuji other than to buy the atomos ninja v? i want to shoot 10bit but at a low budget. would truly appreciate anyone's help.
old video so this question might go under the radar, but here goes...! I’m currently looking to upgrade my X-E1 which I loved for photography in order to be able to pursue personal video documentary projects of my own but am low on budget (ie can’t go for the X-T4 which basically ticks all the boxes!). I know this is ultimately very personal but would you recommend going for something with IBIS or the T3 which has internal 10bit? I just feel like I’ll only know what I’m going to appreciate more through weeks or months of work which makes the decision hard without the hindsight! Ultimately both could be addressed going forward by investing in either a Ninja V or a gimble I suppose, but that would potentially a few months for me! Thanks for the very helpful content, finding it very handy as I navigate through my choices 👍
@@johnstamw Thank you for your feedback! So hard to decide at this point, the 4k60 of the T3 is a big selling point too, especially since it can effectively help in stabilising handheld shots by means of slowing down... Or else the H1 makes a good alternative to the S10, older sensor but still highly regarded and a few pennies left to put towards the Ninja... Decision decision... 🤔
Great Channel :) Do you adjust your classic chrome settings in camera (tweak color, sharpness, shadow/highlight) and/or make additional color grading in post to achieve the look for this video? Or just straight out of camera? Having the X-S10 for two weeks now and not sure if I should go with Classic Chrome or F-Log. 8 Bit 4:2:0 not perfectly suited for color grading, but I also want the flexibility the create different looks based on F-Log instead of having already a look out of camera (although I really like classic chrome!)
Are there any 3rd party lenses you'd recommend for the T30 or any of the X series cameras? Just bought a 7artisans macro lens and an XF Fuji 35mm. Better to stick with Fuji or try 3rd party? Might be a good video to make
@@johnstamw Fair enough, thanks for getting back to me, I'll check them out! When I had a Canon I heard about Sigma a lot. Long shot but if you reached out to some of the 3rd party lenses and showed them your channel they might send you one to test. But time is a separate issue. Great videos John, keep it up
I need you to help me. I want to record 4K 60fps 10bit 4:2:0 directly on the camera body, can I use this type of memory card?: " SDXC SanDisk Extreme Pro U3 V30 1133x 64GB SDSDXXY-064G-GN4IN 170MB/s " Can you advise me a memory card suitable for the parameters I want to record? Thank you very much.
I have one question , does it make sense to shoot 10 bit with let’s say classic crome or Astia soft rather than flog as I am really bad at colour grading and I like to get good colours straight out of camera
Great Video! Found it to be helpful. Question can firmware update improve Fujiflim xs10 8bit to 10 bit internal? If some one can answer this for me it will be very helpful, while I just purchased Fujiflim x-t4 that has 10 bit, but I would prefer sx10 to save cost.
@@johnstamwDid you work maybe with gh5 to compare with xt4? I have 18-35 on my board and it's great lens but gh5's lowlight is sometimes very noisy Ps. Really nice chanel :)
Wait a second. If you shoot with 200 MB per second, does that mean that you have one GB every 5 seconds? Or do I misunderstand something? I am currently trying to understand this whole Bitrate topics but I don't really get it yet. I recently shot with a borrowed camera (Canon 5D Mark IV) and the footage is 4k 25fps and has 4GB for a 1 minute clip. My computer is unable to even play it and I dont understand why the camera produced such huge files. Normally I also shoot in 4k 25fps with a Sony A7 3 and I don't know a specific file size, but its much much smaller, after hours of shooting its only like 100GB of footage. What did I do wrong with this Canon?
I find this tool helpful -- frogsoft.com/filecalc. The 5d4 is notoriously awful for the massive and awful video files, which I understand is largely due to the archaic container, MJPEG. You didn't do anything wrong, just old canon, awful file type.
Thanks sooooo much for your video - really useful. Thinking of getting the XT4 but worried about my laptop and work flow. How is the 1080 footage on the XT4? That is probably something I am considering for RUclips. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated :)
Here is a Video Idea... Help me figure out why I cant playback or edit ANY of my X-T4 files. It doesnt seem to matter bit depth or h.264 or h.265. Any video is not working like at all. All of my sony, panasonic, and canon video files work with no issues. Im so confused, help a brotha out lol.
Great video John! I bought my X-T4 like a month ago and trying out a bunch of different settings on it! I love this camera 😍 One question which I feel didn't get answered though! How about the 1080p vs 4k? Do you think it's a must with 4k or can you scale up 1080? I compared my old Canon M50 (8-bit 1080p) with shooting 10-bit 1080p on the Fujifilm and it's such a difference in quality. I couldn't believe it! What's your take on 1080p vs 4k on this camera? Thanks John!
@@johnstamw Thanks. I have a v60 card that I have been using on my xt4. It seemed like the fastest card I could get, but on the card it says 250 mbs. I wasn’t sure if it could shoot 400 MB’s. Thanks for your reply.
@@ryanreyes5440 Thanks. I have a v60 card that I have been using on my xt4. It seemed like the fastest card I could get, but on the card it says 250 mbs. I wasn’t sure if it could shoot 400 MB’s. Thanks for your reply.
Hey bro, does your xt-30 have write in error? Coz when I tried taking videos past 100 MB’s or 4 it stops after 10 seconds. I’m wondering if it’s the sd card. Do recommend a Sd for Fuji cameras ? Anyways your content is dope man
Hey bro can you make a proxy tutorial specifically for Fuji as when I export it the frames tend to mix up and a cut frames. It would be helpful. Also you have some of the most beautiful fujifilm vids on RUclips.
@@johnstamw your welcome bro, I’m new to proxies and I tried few vids about them but the export kinda screws up when I playback regular. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong lol
Can I shoot 4K 60fps in 8bit H265. I am not sure if my system can handle H265 format. Is there a way to get maybe 10-15 long H265 60 FPS file in 4K so that I could test it before buying Fuji XT-4
@@johnstamw Thank you so much. I was able to play the file with little jitter but I was able to play and edit as well using filmora. I slowed it a bit and added music to the file and uploaded on youtube at 24 fps 4k. ruclips.net/video/jQKd8UnWj_8/видео.html it is still being processed for full 4 k.
hey friend, the coffee guy here... from the sowtech video... am big tech guy and few things, i was watching this video on my LG OLED and the footage on the xt3 was not as sharp as the XT4 footage. my first question is was that do to how you were filming 10bit vs 8bit that makes that big of a difference or was it the lenses you had on each camera or is it the actual sensor on the cameras them selfs, is the xt4 that much better??? second question can you make a video on your computer, you said you have enough compute power to be able to edit in any of the forms you talked about... am a big into computers i watch alot of the computer tech channels... am a PC guy and i just built a few computers with ryzen processor and titan Video cards so definitely have alot of power for editing. i dont edit video am just into powerful computers and i game a bit... but i am very into 4k content. so i would love to see a video on your computer and what editing software you use. i been going through your videos and your very talented you have a very unique style am glad i looked up the coffee maker like i said on that video i didnt like the video about the coffee maker that much for what it was but am loving your channel... am definitely a subscriber now... after this video alone....
John, first of all thanks for the video! I'm new to Fuji so I came across a little problem. I used to shoot interviews with Sony A7 iii, but now I have to switch to Fuji Xt3 for some reasons. So the problem is that the files on Fuji are really larger. I've inserted a formatted 128gb sd card in Fuji and it shows 99 minutes (fullhd 16:9, 25p, 100mbps, h264, 8 bit, long gop) whereas Sony could record up to 150 minutes with the same settings. Maybe you know or somebody who is reading this knows what could be the issue here?
@@johnstamw Thanks, John! I found that out after I wrote you the first comment and tried to fill the card with video) But thank you for the answer, that's really a weird bug for a camera from 2018, isn't it?)
Can you do me a one more favour, Please try to upload a sample footage of 240 fps slow motion video and handheld fullHD 30 fps video That would be the biggest help for me
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Wow can really see the difference between that 8bit and 10bit, didn't realise the difference so thanks for this video man!
Great video! I was blown away when I captured a clip of a gradient sunset sky with my Blackmagic Pocket 4K, and my old GH4, keyed it and graded it heavily in resolve, and realised how weak the 8 bit footage from the GH4 was and how elastic the 12 bit footage from the Pocket 4K was. While the GH4 shown extremely noticeable different areas in the sky, the Pocket 4K shown a actual gradient. Everything is more tridimensional.
You have some of the most beautiful images on RUclips. Thanks for sharing.
@@johnstamw I agree. Nice frames and colors. Is there any way to look at some of your pics before color grading? What soft do you use? And what lenses? Thanks! :)
Thanks for the video, this was actually very helpful!
The differences I can see watching on my phone are the X-T3 files are more contrasty, have a slightly green tint, and the skin is a little bit less flattering on the film sim.
I'll be shooting 100mbps straight out of camera for personal videos now!
bro i really wish i would've seen your vid when i started, all this took me so many hours of research and experience and you did it all in 6 mins, ,thank you::)
I've been debating selling my xt30 for an xt4 for the internal 10-bit and IBIS. This was really helpful to see and conceptualize the difference. Much appreciated!
Very timely with the X-S10 releasing this week with only 8bit. The 8bit looks a lot more harsh with clear, darks, lights and some mids. While the 10Bit has a lot more gradation of exposure and color to it. For $1000-$1700 you can't find a cheaper 10bit camera which is so feature packed as the X-T4/3. The new X-S10 at $1000 is best for international travel for personal photography with a bit of video or blog on the side.
John Stambaugh let us know if you’d like a couple Hazard 4 mil-spec packs/slings for your Fuji kit. We bought your LUT to use on our latest product video. Hazard4.com Drawbridge pack video. The Freelance sling or Pillbox pack would be best for your needs probably.
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Thank you very much! It really helps. I decided to use 10-bit, Long GOP, and 200Mbps.
I'm glad to hear this was helpful!
what sd card did you use to shoot those formats?
It was really helpful.
It's been a few weeks with my New xt3
And i feel like i should just bought used xt20..
Xt3 is overkill for my need 🤣🤣
Still loving it tho 😍
Thanks for an amazing info 😜
Chroma subsampling could be another decisive factor. Like maybe 8-bit 4:2:0 vs 10-bit 4:2:0 is not gonna make a huge difference, but when you go 10-bit 4:2:2, maybe you can really get the benefit of those 10 bits and 100 extra megabits per second.
Just a thought.
After watching a lot of your videos I can finally say that Your channel made my decision. I’m getting the xt4! I subscribed and I’m looking forward to see more videos coming from you. Thank you very much John!
Thank you! I really like this real life review. I'm looking for an update for my x-t200 and I wasn't sure if xh2s is better for youtube than x-s20. No I think that I would not need prores for most of the time and just can go with 10 bit 200mb long Gop. Thanks again!
Thanks so much for the information! It really helped me and I've decided to purchase the XT4!!
actually this is very useful for me.. good job john...
Very useful--learning from you-love from Assam,India
@@johnstamw yes true-world famous for1.One horned Rhinoceros in the world in Kaziranga wildlife sanctuary 2. from here from Assam ,the tea reaches London during 1830s.If you come to Assam ,It would be our honor!
Thank you for sharing :) I see little difference between 10bit and 8 bit in your eye !!
Bro, most of this went over my head. But damn! Great footage!
The difference is in PSNR. The noise of the compression is higher in lower bitrates and lower bitdepths. The shadows of the 8bit compressed formats of the XT4 are very bad, blocky and quarantized, but the shadows of the 10bit format are pretty good. PSNR noise is visible in anything that has low exposure (shadows and mids) and anything that is raised when boosting exposure in post. Every extra dB of PSNR counts.
The same applies to the Prores formats. The difference from one format to the next is only a few dB but many people need that difference.
If one will just shoot, cut and upload without raising shadows, the lowest quality format in XT4 is more than enough for 5-10Mbit/sec H264 1080p distribution.
@@johnstamw Apple have some PSNR values in page 16 here:
www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_White_Paper.pdf
Formats are compared using PSNR. There are some comparisons for GOP here:
www.researchgate.net/publication/273187466_Impact_of_H264AVC_and_H265HEVC_compression_standards_on_the_video_quality_for_4K_resolution
A given PSNR is an horizontal line, so bitrates are compared by drawing horizontal lines. Any bitrate savings are shown this way.
Intra requires higher bitrate for the same PSNR.
Quality depends on implementation. Cameras have to operate in low power and work fast, so they do not employ the best methods.
I got an XT4 with the three f2.8 zooms, so I'm doing tests these days. 10bit is really good.
I stopped listening after you showed the footage! That is gorgeous! Now I need to rewatch this video to get an answer to my question.
@@johnstamw 🤣 lol sorry to give you a scare!
Awesome job man! Definitely looking forward to that f-log video!!
@@johnstamw honestly Just what kind of things change in camera such as the tone curve , if you add color, noise reduction, etc. and maybe your auto focus settings 😁
Thank you! Awesome test.
Thanks for the video John.
I know I'm (2) years late but, new to the XT4 and...in 4K All-Intra, it wont even let me select 100 or 200... It automatically makes you shoot 400mpbs.. Gonna try and shoot in 4K LongGOP, 200mpbs and see what it looks like. And you mentioned this is what needs to be selected to shoot 4K 60fps.. We'll see !!! Thanks for this video tho !
thank you for the info! loved the video and the example clips you gave were beautiful! Great job man!
Super keen on flog video. I’d love your tips on exposing it correctly 🔥
Great explanation - thanks John! Just looking to future-proof my next camera purchase, and this video has helped a lot.
This is super helpful! I'm currently trying to decide between the Fuji X-S10 and the XT4 and I know the X-S10 can only do 8-bit internally so that was one of my considerations. I'm not a pro BUT enjoy editing BUT don't have a monster computer (at least not now) so...this helps a lot! Still other things to consider with the decision but this helps a lot!
very good lesson thank you!
glad to hear it!
Thank you
Thanks for the video. Great job.
Thanks John, this was really helpful.
Thanks for your efforts here, I think you showed the differences very well for a video newbie like me. I have an X-T3 and was trying to work out what settings would be best for me for home movies of my children. Ideally I want to capture in the best possible format so it doesn't look too dated in the future, just a shame my older MacBook Pro won't let me play h.265 at all.
Nicely explained. Thanks
This video is a godsend thank you!
How about comparing Long GOP vs inraframe using a panning shot across different scenes. e.g. polka dots of different colors including some black ones. And some sports action to show motion blurring. Long GOP seems to fall apart when a large percentage of the shot changes frame-to-frame.
Even the audio sounds different. Im sure it's probably not noticeable but I can hear it in my high end studio monitor speakers.
@@Padillajose definitely a variety of factors but that’s likely due to different cameras
Thank you for this simple yet informational video! I usually shoot 4K24/25/60p, Flog, 10-bit, h.265, 200 Mbps, Long GOP, and it's great to work with. Looking forward to seeing that video on Flog, and would like to know how you set the sharpness setting in camera and do you add sharpening in post?
Hey which sd card do you have?
@@dieg0lb G R E A T question !!!
Good stuff. Thanks. 👍👍
Awesome video, thanks for the upload. I’d be keen to see more 8bit/10bit comparisons (other settings identical) if you get a chance!
@@johnstamw sweet as! Oh interesting. Even shooting in Eterna - would you notice the difference of 10bit? Cheers
So helpful!! Thank you!!!
Great tutorial! Thanks a lot!
thanks for the info!
thanks for the thanks, lucas!!
thank you for this .
you're welcome!
Great video
thank you JandK!!
great video!
Any way to shoot HDR video with the XT4? Shooting, editing and exporting settings in premiere pro (without any HDR monitor or recorder)? And while H265 10bit is obviously required, is Flog really that needed or Eterna can do the job?
please do cover the changes coming to the XT3 in the upcoming firmware update (28th oct i think) how it compares specially in video.
ooooo didn't know about this.
@@johnstamw o that would be too optimistic. We haven't even got a simple film simulation from xt4 and the color fx blue . I think that dual card recording and 240fps would completely destroy their xt4 sales.
If I use only in film profiles, no F-Log, is there vvisible difference between 10bit and 8 bit?
Hi dear John could you tell me how about 1080p 10bit 200mbs is any good 🙏thanks
@@johnstamw just for personal travel video with xt3 not want to load up the file size and heavy on my computer..Thanks for kind reply
Thanks brosef ❤
Happy to help
Great video, you skin looks slightly different but both could be used in film to me.
Hey friend, i have a xt3 the only thing i am struggling with is the dynamic range. I see your videos and your skys are sometimes bright but not too blown out. Id love to see a video on how you shoot something with your settings and how you treat it in post for color corrction to achieve the dynamic range you are getting. Thank you for everything, you're one of the reasons i got a fujifilm x-t3
@@johnstamw thank you i appreciate it, dynamic range is my biggest struggle
When choosing a new gear to film, what should be the ranking of priorities?
8 bits vs 10 bits? 4.2.2 vs 4.2.0 or 4.0.0?
Or the bitrates?
@@Tavostor Thanks. This helps in the choice of my future gear (S5, X-t4 or R6) Videowise, then the X-t4 seems the best with 10 nits 400 mbps and only 4.2.0 internal.
There is a great difference between your 10bit and 8bit footage, but I wonder how they would look if they were bot f log and colored the same way, as film simulations could be the reason I don't like 8bit in this example.
Thanks for the great example)
Yes the color and look is different because of F-Log as you said, however the screenshot I provided of the curves from Davinci is a helpful example of the data difference! Also the reason I recorded this way is because I personally don’t recommend F-Log in 8bit because I think it needs more data in order to safely withstand grading.
@@johnstamw Interesting about F-Log and 8bit, I wouldn't think so, thanks :)
I'm curious which looks better, 8 bit 4k or 10 bit hd - both in 60 fps.
Good video..
Nice vid bro! Really great to see the difference in the quality. 10 bit def better but I don’t think one would notice if it wasn’t side by side.
Just got saving data sake on long wedding days I think 8 bit will do. But perhaps 10 bit would help during receptions or low light scenes for editing? I should do some testing myself instead of speculating hahaha
@@johnstamw ya true. From what I’m seeing, h265 is still a pain at the moment eh? But ill have to play around with it!
I have a question. My monitor is only 8 bit, could i edit 10 bit video files with it? Like colour grading and have the information to do it so.
Hey John. Very helpful video. Just out of curiosity, do you mind sharing your Editing Workstation specs?
I was surprised to find that my eyes actually can tell the difference between these two shots.Its a noticeable downgrade in quality going to the xt3 footage here. I'm just not sure what changes in settings are the main reason for that. Is it the 8 bit? the mbps? the baked in simulation? So far I shoot 200 mbps, 10-bit, usually using classic chrome on my xt4. Not sure if should try changing it up yet. I have a powerful machine, but still need to use proxies.
My XT-3 doesn't let me select 4K 24fps 10 bits All-Intra below 400Mbps. If I select Long GOP, it allows me to do it. Why is that?
I don't use All-Intra, only Long Gop for me. ALL-I is always 400mbps
Hey bro! 400 bits is 50 mb/s in sd card. 200 bits is 25 mb/s?
@@johnstamw It's because I would like to know how long I can record before filling a 64-128 card, you know? In 4k, 10 bits, 200mb/s. Would you know how to answer me?
Great video man! Im having a really hard time getting high quality youtube videos, any export suggestion for youtube?
Hmmm as long as your exporting 4k h264 and it looks good on your devices locally I’m not sure why youtube compression would be too much?? I’m sorry it’s not exactly my expertise!
@@johnstamw thanks man! Yes indeed exporting at those exact settings however when I watch my videos on a laptop or TV they look awful. Someone suggested a ProRes 422 export, does that make sense? I’m ok FCPX too. Thank you loads for the feedback!
@@isaacmaxpaul that's odd:/ I'm sorry i know it's frustrating, but I would just move to trial and error! Prores might help!
wow ! the diffrence is so big for someone that has been studying cinematography, i jut got a xt3 and i filmed on 8bit im tottaly doing in 10bit 200mbpnow, im wondering what sd they use
I use the most basic sandisk extreme cards, they’re in the description. You don’t have to buy into the whole uhsii high speed thing.
Very practical presentation! I am barely functioning with 10-bit 200 myself but I can manage if I convert the files to Pro Res first (I use EditReady but there must be many other options). Just to add another layer, here is what is perplexing to me, as I am considering getting an Atomos Ninja V: If I understand the menu screen on my Fuji, if I send a signal out to the Ninja it will go out at 10-bit 4:2:2 (no other options). So my question is, does that change the mbps as compared to recording internally at 10-bit 4:2:0? I would imagine so but I haven't noticed the answer anywhere yet. Perhaps I am confusing different issues. Anyone's insights appreciated. - Dave
Is there much difference in quality between 200mbs and 400mbs?
Extremely useful..Thanks a lot..
Right now we are struggling to chose between xs10 vs xt4 for these very same feature differences..
Do you think 8 bit vs 10 bit , or 1080p vs 4K 60 matters for Instagram uploads for bridal portraits¿
thanks for the breakdown and samples. Those shots with the white boarders look super sharp.. is that a layout you uploading into ? Or made those boarders in your editing software? Thanks!
Would have been cool if you said 8 bit 100mbps / 10 bit 200mbps a few more times ;P Great vid, very informative. Cheers
is there any other way to shoot 10bit on fuji other than to buy the atomos ninja v? i want to shoot 10bit but at a low budget. would truly appreciate anyone's help.
old video so this question might go under the radar, but here goes...! I’m currently looking to upgrade my X-E1 which I loved for photography in order to be able to pursue personal video documentary projects of my own but am low on budget (ie can’t go for the X-T4 which basically ticks all the boxes!). I know this is ultimately very personal but would you recommend going for something with IBIS or the T3 which has internal 10bit? I just feel like I’ll only know what I’m going to appreciate more through weeks or months of work which makes the decision hard without the hindsight! Ultimately both could be addressed going forward by investing in either a Ninja V or a gimble I suppose, but that would potentially a few months for me! Thanks for the very helpful content, finding it very handy as I navigate through my choices 👍
@@johnstamw Thank you for your feedback! So hard to decide at this point, the 4k60 of the T3 is a big selling point too, especially since it can effectively help in stabilising handheld shots by means of slowing down... Or else the H1 makes a good alternative to the S10, older sensor but still highly regarded and a few pennies left to put towards the Ninja... Decision decision... 🤔
Great Channel :)
Do you adjust your classic chrome settings in camera (tweak color, sharpness, shadow/highlight) and/or make additional color grading in post to achieve the look for this video? Or just straight out of camera?
Having the X-S10 for two weeks now and not sure if I should go with Classic Chrome or F-Log. 8 Bit 4:2:0 not perfectly suited for color grading, but I also want the flexibility the create different looks based on F-Log instead of having already a look out of camera (although I really like classic chrome!)
Thanks for your feedback and advice:) will have a look to the video!
With XT4, you can shoot 4k60 in 400mbps. I dont understand why you tell at 3m39, it's only 200Mbps in 4K60.
@@johnstamw strange really, so not 4k60 at 400mbps ? Onyly with 30/25/24 ips ?
Are there any 3rd party lenses you'd recommend for the T30 or any of the X series cameras?
Just bought a 7artisans macro lens and an XF Fuji 35mm.
Better to stick with Fuji or try 3rd party?
Might be a good video to make
@@johnstamw Fair enough, thanks for getting back to me, I'll check them out! When I had a Canon I heard about Sigma a lot. Long shot but if you reached out to some of the 3rd party lenses and showed them your channel they might send you one to test. But time is a separate issue. Great videos John, keep it up
I need you to help me.
I want to record 4K 60fps 10bit 4:2:0 directly on the camera body, can I use this type of memory card?:
" SDXC SanDisk Extreme Pro U3 V30 1133x 64GB SDSDXXY-064G-GN4IN 170MB/s "
Can you advise me a memory card suitable for the parameters I want to record? Thank you very much.
We’re you using the 18-55 for those clips?
I have one question , does it make sense to shoot 10 bit with let’s say classic crome or Astia soft rather than flog as I am really bad at colour grading and I like to get good colours straight out of camera
@@johnstamw thank you I will see what I can do
Great Video! Found it to be helpful. Question can firmware update improve Fujiflim xs10 8bit to 10 bit internal? If some one can answer this for me it will be very helpful, while I just purchased Fujiflim x-t4 that has 10 bit, but I would prefer sx10 to save cost.
You must use atomos ninja for external monitor and you get 10 bit with xs10
Hi John, which lens do you use for the most time shooting wedding? Like shooting weddings with xt4 hanheld?
@@johnstamwDid you work maybe with gh5 to compare with xt4? I have 18-35 on my board and it's great lens but gh5's lowlight is sometimes very noisy
Ps. Really nice chanel :)
Wait a second. If you shoot with 200 MB per second, does that mean that you have one GB every 5 seconds? Or do I misunderstand something?
I am currently trying to understand this whole Bitrate topics but I don't really get it yet. I recently shot with a borrowed camera (Canon 5D Mark IV) and the footage is 4k 25fps and has 4GB for a 1 minute clip. My computer is unable to even play it and I dont understand why the camera produced such huge files. Normally I also shoot in 4k 25fps with a Sony A7 3 and I don't know a specific file size, but its much much smaller, after hours of shooting its only like 100GB of footage. What did I do wrong with this Canon?
I find this tool helpful -- frogsoft.com/filecalc. The 5d4 is notoriously awful for the massive and awful video files, which I understand is largely due to the archaic container, MJPEG. You didn't do anything wrong, just old canon, awful file type.
Thanks sooooo much for your video - really useful. Thinking of getting the XT4 but worried about my laptop and work flow. How is the 1080 footage on the XT4? That is probably something I am considering for RUclips. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated :)
Here is a Video Idea... Help me figure out why I cant playback or edit ANY of my X-T4 files. It doesnt seem to matter bit depth or h.264 or h.265. Any video is not working like at all. All of my sony, panasonic, and canon video files work with no issues. Im so confused, help a brotha out lol.
Even you shot 8 or 10 bit we all watch 8 bit RUclips quality video. So how possible we see differences in here? Thanks
And all these are .mov files, right?
Good informative video 😀 How to export files that are 10 bit and do 10 bit render on any screen? Like they work on cellphones too?
@@johnstamw No worries. I'm on its quest and I will let you know once I get some clarity...
The Super Nintendo came out in 1991 and it had 16bits. You'd think Fuji could give you a few more in 2020.
Which fuji series camera with 10bit video? Except xt4
@@johnstamw can xt200 do 10bit on external record?
@@johnstamw oky, thanks for the information
Great video John! I bought my X-T4 like a month ago and trying out a bunch of different settings on it! I love this camera 😍
One question which I feel didn't get answered though! How about the 1080p vs 4k? Do you think it's a must with 4k or can you scale up 1080? I compared my old Canon M50 (8-bit 1080p) with shooting 10-bit 1080p on the Fujifilm and it's such a difference in quality. I couldn't believe it!
What's your take on 1080p vs 4k on this camera?
Thanks John!
@@johnstamw Thank you for your answer! ❤️
What are your PC specs?
I'm about to buy a new PC and I want to know what will be enough to edit h265 smoothly.
Great video by the way! Cheers!
@@johnstamw Thank you!
What about 50mbps?
Thanks for the info. What memory card do you use for 200-400 bps?
I use a v60 card it cant shoot 4k60 ALL-I, H265, 400 Mb. You need v90
@@johnstamw Thanks. I have a v60 card that I have been using on my xt4. It seemed like the fastest card I could get, but on the card it says 250 mbs. I wasn’t sure if it could shoot 400 MB’s. Thanks for your reply.
@@ryanreyes5440 Thanks. I have a v60 card that I have been using on my xt4. It seemed like the fastest card I could get, but on the card it says 250 mbs. I wasn’t sure if it could shoot 400 MB’s. Thanks for your reply.
Hey John. what do you prefer the new xs10 or the xt3?
@@johnstamw thank you for helping. even in photography the xt3 do better? Godbless you!
Hey bro, does your xt-30 have write in error? Coz when I tried taking videos past 100 MB’s or 4 it stops after 10 seconds. I’m wondering if it’s the sd card. Do recommend a Sd for Fuji cameras ? Anyways your content is dope man
John Stambaugh alright thank you man, appreciate it
Hey bro can you make a proxy tutorial specifically for Fuji as when I export it the frames tend to mix up and a cut frames. It would be helpful. Also you have some of the most beautiful fujifilm vids on RUclips.
@@johnstamw your welcome bro, I’m new to proxies and I tried few vids about them but the export kinda screws up when I playback regular. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong lol
@@johnstamw Sounds good brother i might actually move to davinci for specifically colorgrading, it looks super clean
Can I shoot 4K 60fps in 8bit H265. I am not sure if my system can handle H265 format. Is there a way to get maybe 10-15 long H265 60 FPS file in 4K so that I could test it before buying Fuji XT-4
@@johnstamw Thank you so much. I was able to play the file with little jitter but I was able to play and edit as well using filmora. I slowed it a bit and added music to the file and uploaded on youtube at 24 fps 4k.
ruclips.net/video/jQKd8UnWj_8/видео.html it is still being processed for full 4 k.
@@johnstamw it is removed. Once again thank you so much.
Have you considered using 15-45 mm fuji lens for video ?
hey friend, the coffee guy here... from the sowtech video... am big tech guy and few things, i was watching this video on my LG OLED and the footage on the xt3 was not as sharp as the XT4 footage. my first question is was that do to how you were filming 10bit vs 8bit that makes that big of a difference or was it the lenses you had on each camera or is it the actual sensor on the cameras them selfs, is the xt4 that much better??? second question can you make a video on your computer, you said you have enough compute power to be able to edit in any of the forms you talked about... am a big into computers i watch alot of the computer tech channels... am a PC guy and i just built a few computers with ryzen processor and titan Video cards so definitely have alot of power for editing. i dont edit video am just into powerful computers and i game a bit... but i am very into 4k content. so i would love to see a video on your computer and what editing software you use. i been going through your videos and your very talented you have a very unique style am glad i looked up the coffee maker like i said on that video i didnt like the video about the coffee maker that much for what it was but am loving your channel... am definitely a subscriber now... after this video alone....
John, first of all thanks for the video! I'm new to Fuji so I came across a little problem. I used to shoot interviews with Sony A7 iii, but now I have to switch to Fuji Xt3 for some reasons. So the problem is that the files on Fuji are really larger. I've inserted a formatted 128gb sd card in Fuji and it shows 99 minutes (fullhd 16:9, 25p, 100mbps, h264, 8 bit, long gop) whereas Sony could record up to 150 minutes with the same settings. Maybe you know or somebody who is reading this knows what could be the issue here?
@@johnstamw Thanks, John! I found that out after I wrote you the first comment and tried to fill the card with video) But thank you for the answer, that's really a weird bug for a camera from 2018, isn't it?)
Hello Bro, how about XT4 - 10 bit video for FullHD, is that possible to shoot FHD 60/120/240 fps?
or it's only shoot 4K 10bit?
@@johnstamw if you have camera, can you test it and tell for me?
I'm planning to buy XT4 or A7c
Please help me through this
@@johnstamw thank you brother ♥️
Keep up the good work
Can you do me a one more favour,
Please try to upload a sample footage of 240 fps slow motion video and handheld fullHD 30 fps video
That would be the biggest help for me
@@johnstamw mm mm ok fine,
I just wanted to see the quality of 240 fps and 30 fps video quality
But thanks for your response
Keep going
Best of luck