Great video man! I just broke 11,000 rounds through a Gen 5 KKM prototype comp that I got early March. I love the thing. Stock recoil spring and I shoot 124 gr ammo. Haven’t had any problems👍
The short attention span summary was right up my alley. I actually did hang out while you were ciphering through and already made my decision but my ear perked up and was confirmed during the summary. 😅. Great info and thanks! You’ve earned a sun.
I have become a fan of PMM compensators with one on a G19 and one on a Baretta M9 clone, they do take some time and patience to get fitted but the results are worth it. I am not sure if it was luck or skill but the M9 comp fit so seamlessly that I was a bit scared it would not permit the slide to go all the way forward. One of the more compact comps out there.
This video was extremely well done. Lots of details that are actually relevant. There's a few comps I was hoping made it into the review, but you can't have it all. Thanks again for the great info
Great video. Digging the straightforward format. Marketing has definitely overtaken knowledge in the digital age. Speaking of other comps, you should test out the Zev comp. It has an attachment method not seen here. It's compression style attachment so you don't have to fiddle with Rocksett or and other thread locker. I definitely agree with you on KKM as being super soft.
Awesome video! Please keep doing these. I’ve been a 10-8 product user for 10+ years and value your opinion greatly. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
I really liked your video. You went over a couple that I didn't know about. I just got a polymer 80 Glock 17 clone and I'm thinking about a comp. idk haven't decided. I really liked how at the end you recapped for those of us with short attention spans. By the time you got to your 2nd runner up I'd already forgotten who your winner was lol
Great video brother, the Weapons Armament Afterburner is nice. Ports are all cut right into the slide and barrel makes sense. Your absolutely right about it being spendy though.
May be a old video but still appreciated for relevant content on compensators. I still carry G19 but more so my G48 mos . I wish Glock bring Compensated Glocks back out on Generation 5 . Yep. Those copper slivers can hurt if hit you so eye protection is a must.
9:35 Interesting. I'm running a PMM Glock on my G19 and I have had no issues with it coming loose, and I've sent over 500+ rds through it. When I installed I used a liberal amount of loctite, so perhaps that was your issue or maybe ammo? I've been running Winchester white box 115 gr FMJ 9mm and it runs like a dream.
Always make sure your weapon is reliable by real testing if you modify it to include a comp or ports. Recoil powered slide cycling can be affected by recoil energy being redirected with these devices. The slide may not cycle back far enough to eject, reload, and recock the hammer/striker.
Hey Hilton! Congratulations on retirement. I like the new format and appreciate you taking the time to share your observations. I'm curious about any increase in muzzle flash with the comp's during reduced lighting. If you could address this question in a future video, I'd really appreciate it.
Awesome vid, bro Very educational Adding on to the G19C I believe the "C" models will be collectors Glock will eventually discontinue them The problem with them all is the debris builds up between the slide and the barrel, thus rendering it inoperable I worked at a range that rented the "C" model and it needed cleaning alllllllllllllllllllllllllll the time 💯 Anyway 👍 ❤🇺🇸
i have the kkm barrel and carver custom 2 port comp.significant reduction on the muzzle rise, i have G17 gen3. i always use 124g any brand will fire, not on the 115gr though,it always jam, does not complete the cycle.good video.keep them coming
you should do another one comparing the radian ramjet and afterburner with the best of the others youve tried. I personally really like it however its the only comp ive used
Hilton! I love the video. If you get a chance, do a Glock trigger video please. I saw the TYR trigger in a couple of your glocks. I love that trigger but would really like to see a video of your take on that trigger and any others that you may try and run... For anyone reading this comment, GET IN TO SOME OF HILTON'S TRAINING CLASSES, THEY ARE 2ND TO NONE!!
James Thanks for the kind words and feedback. On triggers I look for 1) retaining all safeties, 2) shoe feel and reach. I don’t personally care much about overtravel. Metal is a more worthwhile upgrade than another plastic trigger due to the increased rigidity.
This video is outstanding. Very well delivered and straight forward. Looking into the PMM and was curious if it affects reliability. I want to shoot anything I can throw at it reliably.
You might just need a holster for a longer gun. For a G19 with a comp adding 1" to the length, a G34 holster should fit. If you had a "carry comp" on a G19 adding a half inch, a G17 holster should do it.
That war slide looks like a great budget alternative to the agency arms noc. U buy a 19 mos, sell the slide and plates separately and that upgrade is a net cost of 600 bucks or so that's pretty great for what you get imo
Going back to your KKM / ACRO setup, what would you recommend for a recoil spring if you were to keep that optic / comp together? Do you think replacing the large Surefire x300 with a smaller, lighter gun-light, be a means to mitigate the issue?
What’s happened to WAR and their Afterburner? Are they out of business? I can’t find them or what I find is a couple of years old. Thanks, WillieChaffin
Can you please follow up on the afterburner? There is just no info out there. And as for a cali legal compensated setup that comes ready to go, I would like to see how it performs. Thank you.
Thomas Usowski I’ve fired it and it was soft, but it’s quite large and the owner had issues keeping it on the barrel. I found comparable results with the smaller comps that I tested here. 9mm doesn’t need a massive comp, there’s not that much gas to move around.
I really want to add a comp to my Glock 17 with a TLR 1 HL. What comp would you recommend that would sit near flush with the same height of the TLR? I’ve searched google but can’t find anything. Even browsed picture threads. Mostly just 19 pictures rarely any 17s with a comp flush with the weapon light.
Most comped guns are 19's for a reason - the comps extend the length of a 19 to about a 34 length. You want a lighter, faster moving slide with a comp, lest you run out of recoil energy to power the whole system.
If the back of the comp is flat would it thread on to any barrel of the correct thread pitch? For example, a comp designed for the glock 19 should fit on a cz p10c, correct? Just like a suppressor should fit both? Thank you, sorry if this is a stupid question lol
It's basically about the same as the Griffin Armament unit. With the selection of comp styles outlined here, it's possible to get a reasonable projection of performance without having to buy every single comp out there.
I dont understand why a compensator would rob energy from the slide. I thought the slide acquires all its rearward velocity before the bullet is out of the barrel.
The slide and barrel move rearward together as one unit until unlocking, which occurs after the bullet leaves and has imparted the recoil energy in the system. Since the slide and barrel initially move together as one unit, adding mass of the compensator changes the energy in the system. This was the drive behind the Clark Pin Gun (a barrel weighted 1911) in the early 80's, which gave rise to the first compensators. I was there during that research, so I can vouch first hand how this all works out.
That's the best video on the topic I have seen so far. I am not so much into competition shooting, I have a Glock 23 with a threated lone wolf 9x19 barrel for cheaper training. Since I have to handle the threat protector when changing the barrel I figured that I could install the Griffen Armament carry comp with no extra efford, it would look nice and would make shooting a bit more pleasant. But I don't need it to be very short or leightweight and an impact on reliability is no big problem as well. Are they any other (e.g. longer, heavier, more effective) compensators available that have no "orientation" and just threat on?
Don't think of the Griffin as a comp. Think of it as a thread protector, for a pistol you may want to run with a can, that has the ancillary benefit of a small amount of recoil reduction.
I don’t know much, but I think it depends on the compensator. I have Herrington Arms comp on one of my pistols, and it seems to work just fine with the stock recoil spring.
I initially was very interested due to the manner in which they attach. However, the smaller/shorter comps are more practical when looking at CCW/Duty use, so I am focusing on that type.
Seeing as I've only recently ventured down the rabbit hole in the past year and a half so please excuse the ignorance but isn't there a saying with Glocks, "Always fit the part to the gun, never the gun to the part, meaning you should ONLY modify the part until it works and NEVER the guns frame or reciever! I'm pretty sure that's why they make replacement parts LOL
Looking for the ultimate compensator package for a ZEV OZ9. Would like a twist and lock compensator even if I have to switch out the barrel... any ideas?
Man I don’t know what’s going on with your particular 19C but u should send it back to glock. I literally have about 100,000 rounds down various C model glocks. 19C 17C and 22C’s of every generation in which they were available. Please see my match and training videos. Never not even once has something come back and hit me in the face nor eyes. Even with close retention shooting under high speed match conditions. Compensators were the reason I switched to the c model glocks. With compensators I HAVE had stuff and jackets come up and hit me in the face. I’ve also has baffle strikes. Nevermind the headaches of messing with the springs to get them to run right. Sometimes that’s not even possible. Send ur 19C barrel back to glock cuz I can say with 100% assurance that there’s something wrong with ur copy. C model glocks offer all the benefits of comps without the drop in reliability. Try a mod K build as well. Integral porting for glocks is always better than screw on comps that also make the gun longer. Great video though. Send that barrel back!!
Regarding the G19Cgen4, I do wonder if/to-what-extent ammo selection can play a part in the debris spray. My only Glock which is comp'd/ported is a G23gen3 which is "Magna-Ported" (got in a trade) and I've not noticed this debris-spray issue. Much of my practice is with FMJ ammo, however, and I don't shoot the Winchester Ranger 180 gr. RA40T often. I'm thinking FMJ bullets won't be peeling off as easily as JHP bullets. In fact, some of my practice has been with steel-cased .40 probably doesn't even have a jacket as much as a plated or dipped jacket coating to my understanding; 'just thinking out loud.
@@InkwellFoto that's unfortunate and definitely not the first time I've heard that.. probably why they're gone. Not a lot of companies doing port work out there now.
Mod-K had the worst customer service and stole a lot of people’s money and slides sent in for work. When they were going out of business, they still took people’s orders/money.
@@hairypaladin7249 yup, I was a victim but got lucky and got my stuff back from them. I don't even shoot their barrel because I'm disgusted with their business practice
Great video man! I just broke 11,000 rounds through a Gen 5 KKM prototype comp that I got early March. I love the thing. Stock recoil spring and I shoot 124 gr ammo. Haven’t had any problems👍
The short attention span summary was right up my alley. I actually did hang out while you were ciphering through and already made my decision but my ear perked up and was confirmed during the summary. 😅. Great info and thanks! You’ve earned a sun.
I have become a fan of PMM compensators with one on a G19 and one on a Baretta M9 clone, they do take some time and patience to get fitted but the results are worth it.
I am not sure if it was luck or skill but the M9 comp fit so seamlessly that I was a bit scared it would not permit the slide to go all the way forward. One of the more compact comps out there.
This video was extremely well done. Lots of details that are actually relevant. There's a few comps I was hoping made it into the review, but you can't have it all.
Thanks again for the great info
Hilton, Great information and video. Looking forward to seeing more of your work. Thanks for an honest review!
Great video. Digging the straightforward format. Marketing has definitely overtaken knowledge in the digital age. Speaking of other comps, you should test out the Zev comp. It has an attachment method not seen here. It's compression style attachment so you don't have to fiddle with Rocksett or and other thread locker. I definitely agree with you on KKM as being super soft.
Awesome video! Please keep doing these. I’ve been a 10-8 product user for 10+ years and value your opinion greatly. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
Great review. I would like to see a review on the holsters you can use with these compensators.
I really liked your video. You went over a couple that I didn't know about. I just got a polymer 80 Glock 17 clone and I'm thinking about a comp. idk haven't decided. I really liked how at the end you recapped for those of us with short attention spans. By the time you got to your 2nd runner up I'd already forgotten who your winner was lol
Great video brother, the Weapons Armament Afterburner is nice. Ports are all cut right into the slide and barrel makes sense. Your absolutely right about it being spendy though.
You are killing it!
May be a old video but still appreciated for relevant content on compensators. I still carry G19 but more so my G48 mos . I wish Glock bring Compensated Glocks back out on Generation 5 . Yep. Those copper slivers can hurt if hit you so eye protection is a must.
9:35 Interesting. I'm running a PMM Glock on my G19 and I have had no issues with it coming loose, and I've sent over 500+ rds through it. When I installed I used a liberal amount of loctite, so perhaps that was your issue or maybe ammo? I've been running Winchester white box 115 gr FMJ 9mm and it runs like a dream.
With a heavy comp, just switch to a Wolff uncaptured guide rod and use the heaviest spring that reliably cycles.
Always make sure your weapon is reliable by real testing if you modify it to include a comp or ports. Recoil powered slide cycling can be affected by recoil energy being redirected with these devices. The slide may not cycle back far enough to eject, reload, and recock the hammer/striker.
The Strike Industries Mass Driver is looks really nice. Just ordered one for my G22, can't wait to try it out!
Like all the info. Was great to hear thought about debris never thought of that.
Hey Hilton! Congratulations on retirement. I like the new format and appreciate you taking the time to share your observations. I'm curious about any increase in muzzle flash with the comp's during reduced lighting. If you could address this question in a future video, I'd really appreciate it.
The review should be done without lights and optics
Great Job. More please
Awesome vid, bro
Very educational
Adding on to the G19C
I believe the "C" models will be collectors
Glock will eventually discontinue them
The problem with them all is the debris builds up between the slide and the barrel, thus rendering it inoperable
I worked at a range that rented the "C" model and it needed cleaning alllllllllllllllllllllllllll the time 💯
Anyway 👍
❤🇺🇸
Love your channel. Keep going !!
i have the kkm barrel and carver custom 2 port comp.significant reduction on the muzzle rise, i have G17 gen3. i always use 124g any brand will fire, not on the 115gr though,it always jam, does not complete the cycle.good video.keep them coming
Just purchased a strike comp can't wait
amazing and very informative video, Thank you
you should do another one comparing the radian ramjet and afterburner with the best of the others youve tried. I personally really like it however its the only comp ive used
Hilton! I love the video. If you get a chance, do a Glock trigger video please. I saw the TYR trigger in a couple of your glocks. I love that trigger but would really like to see a video of your take on that trigger and any others that you may try and run... For anyone reading this comment, GET IN TO SOME OF HILTON'S TRAINING CLASSES, THEY ARE 2ND TO NONE!!
James Thanks for the kind words and feedback. On triggers I look for 1) retaining all safeties, 2) shoe feel and reach. I don’t personally care much about overtravel. Metal is a more worthwhile upgrade than another plastic trigger due to the increased rigidity.
If you had it to do again would you get a regular threaded kkm barrel & add a comp of your choosing or get their proprietary threaded barrel & comp?
Great info! I've subscribed and look forward to your other videos!!!
This video is outstanding. Very well delivered and straight forward. Looking into the PMM and was curious if it affects reliability. I want to shoot anything I can throw at it reliably.
So.... the griffin carry comp is basically a good alternative to a thread protector? lol
Yeah not much weight to em’.
If the gun doesn't run on anything that fits in it..... you got a pretty toy
Yes. And it reduces recoil about 15-20% for me. Don’t have to change recoil spring weights. Keeps Glocks reliable. It fits in most holsters.
Looking forward to hearing more on how the Afterburner performs. I’m looking for a carry comp setup and this might be the ticket.
still waiting on WAR to make more
You might just need a holster for a longer gun. For a G19 with a comp adding 1" to the length, a G34 holster should fit. If you had a "carry comp" on a G19 adding a half inch, a G17 holster should do it.
I’m considering the Parker M for my M9A4. They look amazing. And work
Very professional video. I subscribed because of this.
That war slide looks like a great budget alternative to the agency arms noc. U buy a 19 mos, sell the slide and plates separately and that upgrade is a net cost of 600 bucks or so that's pretty great for what you get imo
thanks for the review! very informative.
Dude, nice video well done
Would be cool to see an update video
Subbed after this
How the he'll do you break your gun down to clean it with those glue on comps???
HB Industries makes a $20 thread protector/compensator that gets the job done...Made in America...!!!
Can you provide a link to that?
Well done, thanks for your efforts👍
PMM is an excellent comp that works well with my FN509TAC
I got the Suarez Street Comp complete slide and its awesome
Second Mayhem comp, in either configuration... I’d even loan you mine if you struggled to find one 😂
Did you ever figure out why the pmm comp kept becoming loose?
im planning to get 3port comp from carver custom and see how it will reduce more the muzzle flip.
Going back to your KKM / ACRO setup, what would you recommend for a recoil spring if you were to keep that optic / comp together?
Do you think replacing the large Surefire x300 with a smaller, lighter gun-light, be a means to mitigate the issue?
I could hardly tell my Griffen armament carry comp was doing anything at all
Great video !!!!
What optic is on the pistol with the KKM comp.?
Have you done a striker industries mass comp?
What’s happened to WAR and their Afterburner? Are they out of business? I can’t find them or what I find is a couple of years old. Thanks, WillieChaffin
Been looking into a pmm for my Glock 19 gen 5 looks slick(follows the guns body well)
In have a p80 pf940sc Glock 26 what barrel will it fit threade 8 inch 7 inch long barrel I bought g17 Glock muzzle adapter nothing fits my p80 help
What about extended ported barrel
Ok in your opinion what's the best comp for a glock 29sf?
Do episode 2 now? Here's to channel engagement.
What about the mass driver?
Can you please follow up on the afterburner? There is just no info out there. And as for a cali legal compensated setup that comes ready to go, I would like to see how it performs. Thank you.
It's planned!
They discontinued the WAR afterburner can i have yours?🥺
By chance have you used the Killer Innovations velocity Glock comp?
Thomas Usowski I’ve fired it and it was soft, but it’s quite large and the owner had issues keeping it on the barrel. I found comparable results with the smaller comps that I tested here. 9mm doesn’t need a massive comp, there’s not that much gas to move around.
I really want to add a comp to my Glock 17 with a TLR 1 HL. What comp would you recommend that would sit near flush with the same height of the TLR? I’ve searched google but can’t find anything. Even browsed picture threads. Mostly just 19 pictures rarely any 17s with a comp flush with the weapon light.
Most comped guns are 19's for a reason - the comps extend the length of a 19 to about a 34 length. You want a lighter, faster moving slide with a comp, lest you run out of recoil energy to power the whole system.
Would like to hear your take on the griffin armament micro comp..
Watch the video, starting at 16:43
Lol. Just realized I’m one of those guys that asks questions about info already given. Thanks for responding....
If the back of the comp is flat would it thread on to any barrel of the correct thread pitch? For example, a comp designed for the glock 19 should fit on a cz p10c, correct? Just like a suppressor should fit both? Thank you, sorry if this is a stupid question lol
It should, it'd then just be a matter of whether or not the profile (width/height) matches the slide or not.
Have you tried the cgs qube?
How bout some info on the lakeline mini comp
It's basically about the same as the Griffin Armament unit. With the selection of comp styles outlined here, it's possible to get a reasonable projection of performance without having to buy every single comp out there.
How do they compare to factory.Block compensated guns?
Watch the video. The 19C is covered.
@@108Performance my bad, I was too impatient and started writing before the end of the video, excellent video
I dont understand why a compensator would rob energy from the slide. I thought the slide acquires all its rearward velocity before the bullet is out of the barrel.
The slide and barrel move rearward together as one unit until unlocking, which occurs after the bullet leaves and has imparted the recoil energy in the system. Since the slide and barrel initially move together as one unit, adding mass of the compensator changes the energy in the system. This was the drive behind the Clark Pin Gun (a barrel weighted 1911) in the early 80's, which gave rise to the first compensators. I was there during that research, so I can vouch first hand how this all works out.
Do you have ssvi's in all your glocks?
On any Glock which has a custom trigger shoe, yes.
Interesting, wonder if you can use the PMM on a G19 on a full size frame. It be nice if it’s like the Sig X5 setup.
Carl C Get a 19x or 45 if you want to do that, otherwise the halves aren’t compatible.
Any knowledge on Bar-sto ported barrels?
Id be interested how the Zev comp stacks up
That's the best video on the topic I have seen so far.
I am not so much into competition shooting, I have a Glock 23 with a threated lone wolf 9x19 barrel for cheaper training. Since I have to handle the threat protector when changing the barrel I figured that I could install the Griffen Armament carry comp with no extra efford, it would look nice and would make shooting a bit more pleasant. But I don't need it to be very short or leightweight and an impact on reliability is no big problem as well. Are they any other (e.g. longer, heavier, more effective) compensators available that have no "orientation" and just threat on?
Don't think of the Griffin as a comp. Think of it as a thread protector, for a pistol you may want to run with a can, that has the ancillary benefit of a small amount of recoil reduction.
Awesome video, anything for Glock 30 gen 4? I am just thinking about in the near future with aging and aches and pains.
Hi, my English it’s not really good but I’m gone try ask you, if I get a compensator I need change the recoil spring in a Glock 19X? Thanks
I don’t know much, but I think it depends on the compensator. I have Herrington Arms comp on one of my pistols, and it seems to work just fine with the stock recoil spring.
What was the LBS spring rod on the weapon armament research you used?
I got the Agency Arms comp. I noticed that there is a small point of impact shift. Is that normal?
Have you thought about getting a Killer Innovations comp?
I initially was very interested due to the manner in which they attach. However, the smaller/shorter comps are more practical when looking at CCW/Duty use, so I am focusing on that type.
@@108Performance That makes sense. Thank you for the info. Found the video very interesting.
Strike industries glock comp?
@108performance. Could you do a similar video on Blast forward devices? Weather for pistols or ar style pistols?
Would like to see the mayhem syndicate comp on there if you get a chance
Mass driver ..?
Seeing as I've only recently ventured down the rabbit hole in the past year and a half so please excuse the ignorance but isn't there a saying with Glocks, "Always fit the part to the gun, never the gun to the part, meaning you should ONLY modify the part until it works and NEVER the guns frame or reciever! I'm pretty sure that's why they make replacement parts LOL
Looking for the ultimate compensator package for a ZEV OZ9. Would like a twist and lock compensator even if I have to switch out the barrel... any ideas?
Man I don’t know what’s going on with your particular 19C but u should send it back to glock. I literally have about 100,000 rounds down various C model glocks. 19C 17C and 22C’s of every generation in which they were available. Please see my match and training videos. Never not even once has something come back and hit me in the face nor eyes. Even with close retention shooting under high speed match conditions. Compensators were the reason I switched to the c model glocks. With compensators I HAVE had stuff and jackets come up and hit me in the face. I’ve also has baffle strikes. Nevermind the headaches of messing with the springs to get them to run right. Sometimes that’s not even possible. Send ur 19C barrel back to glock cuz I can say with 100% assurance that there’s something wrong with ur copy. C model glocks offer all the benefits of comps without the drop in reliability. Try a mod K build as well. Integral porting for glocks is always better than screw on comps that also make the gun longer. Great video though. Send that barrel back!!
You should review Mayhem Syndicate's proprietary comp/barrel!
If you think of the Griffin Armament Micro Carry as a thread protector you'll be less disappointed
Regarding the G19Cgen4, I do wonder if/to-what-extent ammo selection can play a part in the debris spray. My only Glock which is comp'd/ported is a G23gen3 which is "Magna-Ported" (got in a trade) and I've not noticed this debris-spray issue. Much of my practice is with FMJ ammo, however, and I don't shoot the Winchester Ranger 180 gr. RA40T often. I'm thinking FMJ bullets won't be peeling off as easily as JHP bullets. In fact, some of my practice has been with steel-cased .40 probably doesn't even have a jacket as much as a plated or dipped jacket coating to my understanding; 'just thinking out loud.
Barsto makes a comp.
For the PMM setup, do you run stock spring with no malfunction?
I only run stock springs. If a comp fails with stock springs I won’t use it.
Care to try the Mod K armory game winner barrel?
Mod k is out of business unfortunately
@@bobsmith-qz2pv oh trust me I know. I had my bad dealings with them
@@InkwellFoto that's unfortunate and definitely not the first time I've heard that.. probably why they're gone. Not a lot of companies doing port work out there now.
Mod-K had the worst customer service and stole a lot of people’s money and slides sent in for work. When they were going out of business, they still took people’s orders/money.
@@hairypaladin7249 yup, I was a victim but got lucky and got my stuff back from them. I don't even shoot their barrel because I'm disgusted with their business practice
That’s a beautiful gun
What red dot is that?
Trijicon RMR and Aimpoint ACRO
would you upload a video shooting glock 19 with the slide war?
Check out the Suarez International street comp
Would be interested in testing of the SWP Slant Comp.
Best compi for Glock 19G3? Taking suggestions
Great video!
Wilson combat muzzle brake
how many Glocks and Surefire X300's do you have? geez