remember, he had his vegas strip plan in place since before the Great War. Why cede power and control to join the Enclave when you can be your own ruler, ya know?
@@youtubersdigestenclave wanted it to happen to the point they actively encouraged it and its the only reason they gave vault tec the go ahead to build the vaults and do their experiments. Also why the government just disappeared like a few months before it happened.
@@Kris-wo4pj I’m still assuming they had the talks at some point. Before the enclave decided to let it happen. They didn’t want it to happen at first. They formed in case it does. Then the goals of some choice members shifted. In fact not all the enclave members wanted it to happen, nor did they all survive.
"Do you know about the Enclave?" "The Enclave? Yes, I've heard of them... Just before the war, they asked me to join their little 'soirée,' and I declined. It was the right decision, seeing as they've been scattered to the winds by the NCR, and I'm draining every last cap out of their assailants."
if he declined they would of Assasinated him to prevent him from talking about it, House is smarter then that. more then likely he join but simply Ignored any other offers and stuck to his own plans.
@@CommanderM117so, said yes to their invite then left them on read once the bombs dropped? Since his anti-missile system would turn vertibirds to mincemeat?
@@diveblock2058House had no respect for governments. Contempt for politicians and bureaucrats is a core feature of his character, which is why instead of trusting in the Enclave’s contingencies he literally built a casino to intercept nukes so that he could go on to rule Vegas and go to space. If the Enclave was a faction in New Vegas, he’d ask the player to wipe them out before their incompetence and idiocy has a chance to derail his plans.
@@QualityPen This... cabal of inbred play-actors trying to imitate a long dead and dysfunctional republic. The Enclave represents the worst tendencies of the Old World. I never cared for their schemes. They are... sickly. Do away with them would you, the blind and shivering mutt?
Wouldn't be surprised if he actually worked with them Pre-War. Shady dealings among them would have made it easier for him to get weapons and ammunition to defend Vegas from the bombs while the Enclave had access to House's robotics. House may not have been part of the Enclave, but they had no reason to get on his bad side and maybe hopes to get him to join after the war, while House never had issues using a trade deal with a powerful faction to his own benefit, as his relationship with the NCR and his presence at the Vault-Tec meeting in the show demonstrate
There's a good fanfiction alternative universe by Omega Initiative where House gets the chip on time. I think he has a good take on it, where House knows about them and their bunkers, but stays out of their business while focusing on building up his own force to defend from them when they return, but a few subordinates of his from the former US military unknowingly shake that hornets nest too early against his vague and cryptic orders to not open that bunker door
@@tbush6657 that certainly sounds very plausible. I'm sure House has a contingency plan for it. He has shown to be quite resourceful when his plans did not work out exactly
"Did the mutation impair the cognitive functions of the brain required to throw money at me in exchange for services? No? Then they can all mutate to hell and back as long as they come here to gamble every few weeks, for all I care."
I doubt it, House is the ultimate wildcard in the pre-ear world and would never fully align with anyone. He may have connections and worked with the Enclave, but never for them.
Yeah I bet, probably doesn’t mention them because he probably either cut ties with them before the bombs or when asked to join he refused them outright
No man Canon and this is Canon(I'm going to have to sorce the show here because yes it can,) has him aligning with a lot of other people like him. I mean this may be an uneasy truce type of thing we're talking big mountain and you know Big mountain didn't like him and a whole bunch of other people that were all uneasy and helping each other but they did. Or he just simply bought them out.. 😅.
@@Grimsly3736probably not, especially considering a full assault of the NCR would have likely still overwhelmed his robots as what we see at the end of new Vegas is a fraction of the NCR not their true numbers, it is an interesting idea though just not accurate to the power we see, he wouldn't have the ability to get those large numbers to the coast or off it for that matter, and it's also ignoring the fact that if we are talking about when the Oil rig fell, he wouldn't be close to the level of power we see in new Vegas
@@Nevouti.x oh nvm didn’t read all the way through, yeah you right by that point House would be reforming the tribes into the Families so even with the platinum chip he’d have no money no caps
100 years after he might go to space and rebuild a new new vegas space colony in some other random star. now that's a far more bigger picture than enclave has i should say
Yeah I agree, he probably knew dozens of members and a lot of very powerful people Pre-War, but would never join an organization that would use him and his resources for their own ends
I'm willing to bet he knew of the Enclave and probably had friends/contacts within the organization prior to the Great War and like you said, probably decided to not be apart of them
As the show told us he worked with vault tec so I could 100% see him playing both sides after all the house wins nothing if they are the only ones playing
@@diveblock2058I really hope they don’t retcon him into being part of the reason the nukes were dropped. Having him be someone who actively knows what’s going to happen and tries to prevent makes him so much more interesting.
@@jaiden3473 I mean we don't know. We know that vault tec was going to but there's still the chance someone beat them to it concidering mr house had his chip late
My head canon is that he joined to avoid getting taken out and then just turned his helicopter around when all the members were heading for the oil rigs.
@@YourLocalMairaabooprobably. Probably the same with the voult tec lab rat competition. Joining both so that he will not get gang up as the other, ditching them right after the bombs drop.
What matters most to House is that you’re under his command. Once the Three families were “civilized” he really didn’t care what they did in their free time as long as they did their job.
"Bull bear long 15"-Ulysses "Strip Vegas Mojave Dam" -House "Tech For Me Only" -Arthur Maxson "Super Mutant Fuck You" -Enclave "Repeat Words Because Cool" -The Master "Science.. for many raisins." -Big MT
I'd say he was an opportunistic and disloyal member, using their resorces for his own projects, then going rogue once he no longer had any use of them and had the security to defend himself if they don't like him abandoning them on somewhat neutral terms.
I don't think he would be when the enclave are dead set on being the only living beings on earth, House wants power and there's be none if everyone but him and the enclave were dead
That's a huge flaw in most villains' plans. No point in ruling over a world with nobody to be ruled in it. House is smarter than that, as might be expected from someone who reacted to his brother cheating him out of a share of Dad's tool-and-die company by founding the second-biggest tech company in America.
He couldn’t even be peaceful with his brother, he doesn’t let ANYONE with a chance of being strong live, and he is very serious about you listening to him. No way in hell would he go “Let’s join a government group!”
While I think he knows about the Enclave, he probably also knows about their goals, not only would his goals be contrary to the Enclave, but they would also probably want to take House's technology for themselves, which isn't something House would be willing to give to them.
I'm pretty Sure he was CEO of RobCo not Reppcon that's somebody else but RobCo helped make the Assualtrons for the US Government in during the sino-American War and the Enclave ends up having some in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 how did the Enclave get those plans from RobCo without House Knowing
The Enclave wanted House involved, but House was smarter and too egotistic to join them. Had he been a part of the Enclave, he would've mentioned and probably had a hand in assisting/providing retirements for the Remnants instead of letting them spread apart in squalor.
the prewar united states government (Enclave) had many open contracts with robco industries, along with vault tec, med tec, and many more so it’s not exactly sure if House is apart of the enclave but he was most definitely doing business with the enclave prior to the bombs dropping.
It would've definitely been Cool If he Was in the Enclave but at the Same Time it would be cool If the Enclave came over and Offered House Enclave Membership but Turned Him Down and hit them with some badass One-Liner but If he was in the Enclave he was Probably that Member who only helped when it furthered his own Goals
He probably had some kind of agreement with them, because he did only own Vegas, he didn't want anything else so it would make sense they were cool with him just having the strip.
House's concern is less control for itself, but more the way others will bicker and lose focus on the bigger picture or long term plans. The Enclave is everything that got the Old World to where it ended up in 2077. His interest in it, if there would have been any, would have been more for information gathering than tangible strategy.
There’s a character in the Star Wars EU/Legends books, I can’t remember his name, but he’s a dark Jedi, and he basically posits that Palpatine/the empire had no real power because they were to big, too spread out, and couldn’t directly exert control over their constituency themselves. This dark Jedi instead preferred to micromanage basically this single community on one planet (until thrawn bullied him into joining his group, but whatever). I think house is like that
I feel like he would have a connection to them as he had alot of influence- think more like lockhead Martin,Through investor's. Whilst not directly working with them due to his thought's on Ncr.He likely calculated the bombs dropping by cozing up with enclave members
Too bad I overthrew House and established Vegas as an independent socialist republic where I got rid of the families, redistributed all of House’s wealth, gave all humans, non-feral ghouls, and non-violent super mutants equal rights, established universal suffrage, nationalized heavy industry (so the government had a source of income and citizens would barely need to pay taxes, and they would get monthly stipends from the revenue), conquered Big Mt and used the research and technology to replace the scientific expertise of House to advance human civilization. House is rolling in his grave, just as I wanted lol
I think its against his belief to be a apart of something may be it democracy, orther corpos and the like that wasnt him of the top. He believes that oversight from others will sliw down progress, that he can do everything alone (almost became true).
One of the things that I was thinking was since he was based on Howard Hughes and stuff like that, he started off as a member of the enclave, but because he was kind of… Nutty and had ambitions that worked in the game at least but pre-war would've seemed insane he moved farther and farther away from the enclave
I highly doubt it. He wanted to be his own man even in the pre-war world. I doubt he'd wanna share power or serve others with all the resources and power he'd wield in the wasteland, essentially having his own kingdom
Nah, house made it abundantly clear his was a pragmatist who judged people by their utility, and that he saw the old world's leaders as morons who caused society's collapse. So, I doubt he would want to associate old-world ideologues who just want to regurgitate the old wartime world.
I find it likely he was aware of them in some manner and the Enclave may have contracted certain projects through his company. However I can't see House being part of the Enclave and possibly being subservient or held back by people he didn't consider his intellectual or business equals or who had a vision he had no interest in. Likewise I think the Enclave would be hesitant to bring him in. House offers a lot of advantages of he joins, but you do risk him either trying to dominate the Enclave or using the arrangement to further his goals rather than the Enclave's. The Enclave would need to get technology and materials from House just due to Robco having some of the best tech and manufacturing facilities. However this would probably be done through proxies and shell companies with House deducing their existence from that somehow (he did supposedly predict when the war would go nuclear in advance using mathematic algorithms so figuring out the existence of a shadow government wouldn't be too big of a stretch).
I mean he would likely accept an invite just so he could have the information from them. And so he wouldn't be a direct target in anyway. Keep your enemies close type of deal
I could see him being part of the Enclave because it would be smarter to join the ruling faction temporarily while plotting to usurp power. Part of why he plays nice with both Caesars Legion and the NCR as they both have a chance to rule the Mojave, and when that war is over, he could easily take over whichever side is still standing.
I just started playing NV for the first time and at first I was fully on board making house my pick. But then it hit me, his casino is literally completely empty of any human beings… it’s strikingly lonely inside, I figured that was a hint from the developers of how the rest of new Vegas felt about him, so at the last second I decided to go with yes Man. I’m not finished with the game yet but I feel he’s the best choice?
Yeah I think that is true I mean he might sell his products to them but he will never join Enclave or anybody else because he believes to be his own boss the be the only ruler domain yes the ruler Mojave yes Las Vegas Strip and he considered himself is basically King
An alternate timeline where the chip arrived on time and House shot down all the nukes and didn’t fall into hibernation would be fascinating since the Enclave might have made a move on Vegas in the 2240s.
Hey there, love the channel! I've always had a personal belief that the Enclave is a loose term to describe the men who stood behind America! The elitists! The ultra rich who stood in some position of power in prewar government that chose to invest and band together to watch the rest of the populace struggle and perish... You have the main known Enclave bases but I'd bet it all that there are dozens of lesser bases set up by footpads and higherups that chose to be independent! In this case I'd say House was a man of many connections, while I don't believe he stood firmly in their beliefs he took advantage of their resources and then closed off his own when the big day came around.
There's no might have been to it he's alive and my play through and they are they in the show because they know that people play what they want to play.😅 I know it's in their best interest to keep them alive character wise he's more interesting alive.😅 He's one of my favorite parts of New Vegas so yeah I wouldn't say it's a deal-breaker going forward in the show but I would really like to see him. I think that the world really needs him and the future colonies of Mars and stuff like that he can get us there. You know after they fix the planet😅
He probably would have been too independent for their liking and, as a result, probably wouldn't have invited him to join on account of him being a wild-card and difficult to control.
I agree. Plus, given the fact that House is kind of a glory hog, I don't think he would have liked to share his powers with others. In fact, given the chance he could have interacted during the events of F2, it would have been quite likely that he would have supported the chosen one against them and look for the platinum chip.
I agree completely with your hypothesis. Mr house truly believed he was the smartest man in America and prolly the world. He set up everything to defend new Vegas, and sent for the chip on his own, with sole intentions of rebuilding, preserving and ruling Vegas himself. I believe his mentality would be that he doesn’t see any value in outside help, simply because he believes he’s too smart to need it
I believe I heard or read somewhere that he was legitimately asked by the Enclave group, but he turned them down. He believed that he was better than the group
Judging by his personality i believe he wouldn't want to be a member of the Enclave as it wpuld mean too much sharing of power but was almost definitely repeatedly approached by the Enclave.
Just based on his reference clip in the fallout show. Very unlikely. He was barely willing to go along with vault tec, he needs to guarantee he gets himself in first place. Enclave would have stood in the way of that, and vice versa
Long answer, he could have been at some point. He was a member For a short period of time.. Short answer. Probably not because it's beneath him. He aims higher
I think he would've seen the Enclave as either doomed due to it's own design in the wasteland, or believed it wouldn't save the world but just make things worse. If his ultimate plan is to give humanity a second chance on a new planet, I think he'd see the Enclave as merely repeating the mistakes of the past, without the chance to change, grow and be moulded by the post-war world, unlike the NCR.
He was definately part of the pre war enclave - where do you think he got his life extending machinery from ? He had a vault under his casino (or at least parts to make one - which included a reactor (and then there is the vault at the bunker hill where he had his securitron army and factory) - and lets not forget several powerfull roof mounted laser cannons to shoot down ICBM-s i seriously doubt the military would allow him to get his hands on that kind of hardware if he wasnt the part of the pre war enclave. That said most likely he had his own plans in place alongside of theirs. Heck it's entirely possible they knew this and it was them who sabotaged him to take him out (he mentioned he had severe problems with software) - it might have been them who tried to have him removed by making sure he had the hardware but lacked the proper software to run it properly or at least with limited capability. He might have even discovered it and that is why he had the platinum chip made to remove that very obstacle. Im saying this because there is plenty of evidence on varous computers in this game and the others that the pre war corps have had cutrhroat mindset - and so did the US military. Coroprate espionage and sabotage was also very much part of the scene at the time btw and since he was on the proverbial top - there were probably more than a few people who would love to take him out. So yes - i think he was part of the pre war enclave - but they didnt trust him entirely because they knew he had his own plans parell to theirs and that would make him kinda unreliable ally in their mindset. So they could have tried to set him up for failure along the way but werent entriely succesfull in doing so. They might have tried to put a snag in his proverbial wheel and should he fall from his bicycle along the way due to that minor hinderance ? - oh well such is life kinda thing eh ? :D
I wouldn’t say he was exactly part of the enclave, but I could see him making deals with them pre war. “An entire oil rig as an HQ and a bunch of people with cash in their wallet? Sign me up!”
remember, he had his vegas strip plan in place since before the Great War. Why cede power and control to join the Enclave when you can be your own ruler, ya know?
He probably would’ve sat with them on any possible meetings to stop the nuclear Armageddon coming, assuming they had those talks.
@@youtubersdigestenclave wanted it to happen to the point they actively encouraged it and its the only reason they gave vault tec the go ahead to build the vaults and do their experiments. Also why the government just disappeared like a few months before it happened.
@@Kris-wo4pj I’m still assuming they had the talks at some point. Before the enclave decided to let it happen. They didn’t want it to happen at first. They formed in case it does. Then the goals of some choice members shifted. In fact not all the enclave members wanted it to happen, nor did they all survive.
Bet he wouldve sat in the council, grabbing power where he could.
After all those who crave power want the know how of their enemies
Remember, he's also pretty much a ghoul. He is probably a KoS to them
i would have liked a throw away line where if you mention the remnants where he just insults the Enclave.
"Do you know about the Enclave?"
"The Enclave? Yes, I've heard of them... Just before the war, they asked me to join their little 'soirée,' and I declined. It was the right decision, seeing as they've been scattered to the winds by the NCR, and I'm draining every last cap out of their assailants."
@@EastofAll hes just a business man doing business
@@EastofAllsounds exactly like something he'd say
@@EastofAll That was sick I can hear it in his voice
@@EastofAllyou fucking nailed his speech pattern and syntax. I love this.
He most likely knew of their existence, even pre war and was most likely offered membership but declined
Basically a spot on prediction if you understand the relationship between vault Tec and the Enclave
if he declined they would of Assasinated him to prevent him from talking about it, House is smarter then that.
more then likely he join but simply Ignored any other offers and stuck to his own plans.
@@CommanderM117so, said yes to their invite then left them on read once the bombs dropped? Since his anti-missile system would turn vertibirds to mincemeat?
I'd like to imagine House is the sort of man to reject an invitation to the illuminati.
He seems like the type to accept a invitation from both shadow governments
@@diveblock2058House had no respect for governments. Contempt for politicians and bureaucrats is a core feature of his character, which is why instead of trusting in the Enclave’s contingencies he literally built a casino to intercept nukes so that he could go on to rule Vegas and go to space.
If the Enclave was a faction in New Vegas, he’d ask the player to wipe them out before their incompetence and idiocy has a chance to derail his plans.
@@QualityPen house is also the type of person to put personal ethics aside to get ahead...and they probably offerd him a tax cut
@@QualityPen This... cabal of inbred play-actors trying to imitate a long dead and dysfunctional republic. The Enclave represents the worst tendencies of the Old World. I never cared for their schemes. They are... sickly. Do away with them would you, the blind and shivering mutt?
Bro you predicted the show dude hahaha. Good job
I think its safe to say that House was approache by the enclave
I mean the enclave wouldn't look away from all the ressources of House's company
Even if House wasn't, his org was likely infested w them, and he probably knew. How he used that? Better than the rest.
depends on how you mix the lore from Bethesda games and non-Bethesda games but Fallout 4 kinda confirms that
@@kaizenregimen 76 has RobCo getting federal prisoners for experiments with Robobrains.
@@richardarriaga6271So did 4, the Mechanist’s Lair is a robobrain facility.
The real question is, did he know that the Enclave existed, and if he did, would he care?
Yes, because they probably stole from him
He knows the existence of them, but as the short says, House likes to have control. And he wouldn’t sacrifice control over a group like the Enclave.
Wouldn't be surprised if he actually worked with them Pre-War. Shady dealings among them would have made it easier for him to get weapons and ammunition to defend Vegas from the bombs while the Enclave had access to House's robotics.
House may not have been part of the Enclave, but they had no reason to get on his bad side and maybe hopes to get him to join after the war, while House never had issues using a trade deal with a powerful faction to his own benefit, as his relationship with the NCR and his presence at the Vault-Tec meeting in the show demonstrate
There's a good fanfiction alternative universe by Omega Initiative where House gets the chip on time. I think he has a good take on it, where House knows about them and their bunkers, but stays out of their business while focusing on building up his own force to defend from them when they return, but a few subordinates of his from the former US military unknowingly shake that hornets nest too early against his vague and cryptic orders to not open that bunker door
@@tbush6657 that certainly sounds very plausible. I'm sure House has a contingency plan for it. He has shown to be quite resourceful when his plans did not work out exactly
Hes a little too chill about mutated humans existing to be part of the Enclave
"Did the mutation impair the cognitive functions of the brain required to throw money at me in exchange for services? No? Then they can all mutate to hell and back as long as they come here to gamble every few weeks, for all I care."
Very well could've been a part of them while not really retaining any of their ideas and goals. Better to use than be used you know?
@@zakbrooks7354 yeah
I doubt it, House is the ultimate wildcard in the pre-ear world and would never fully align with anyone.
He may have connections and worked with the Enclave, but never for them.
Yeah I bet, probably doesn’t mention them because he probably either cut ties with them before the bombs or when asked to join he refused them outright
No man Canon and this is Canon(I'm going to have to sorce the show here because yes it can,) has him aligning with a lot of other people like him. I mean this may be an uneasy truce type of thing we're talking big mountain and you know Big mountain didn't like him and a whole bunch of other people that were all uneasy and helping each other but they did. Or he just simply bought them out.. 😅.
He would’ve likely destroyed the Oil Rig himself
Why? he doesn't want to destroy the NCR because they're his best customers. Enclave would throw themselves at House's technology for purchase.
Maybe, if he had the platinum chip then most definitely
@@Grimsly3736probably not, especially considering a full assault of the NCR would have likely still overwhelmed his robots as what we see at the end of new Vegas is a fraction of the NCR not their true numbers, it is an interesting idea though just not accurate to the power we see, he wouldn't have the ability to get those large numbers to the coast or off it for that matter, and it's also ignoring the fact that if we are talking about when the Oil rig fell, he wouldn't be close to the level of power we see in new Vegas
@@Nevouti.x isn’t OP talking about the Oil Rig? Like In fallout 2
@@Nevouti.x oh nvm didn’t read all the way through, yeah you right by that point House would be reforming the tribes into the Families so even with the platinum chip he’d have no money no caps
100 years after he might go to space and rebuild a new new vegas space colony in some other random star. now that's a far more bigger picture than enclave has i should say
At the very least, he was almost certainly aware of it's existence.
Yeah I agree, he probably knew dozens of members and a lot of very powerful people Pre-War, but would never join an organization that would use him and his resources for their own ends
You know you're cool when every single person in the Mojave hates your guts
Powder Gangers are just cringe
I'm willing to bet he knew of the Enclave and probably had friends/contacts within the organization prior to the Great War and like you said, probably decided to not be apart of them
No shot, way too big and way too selfish to be just a part of something, as we all know he has his own gig going on
As the show told us he worked with vault tec so I could 100% see him playing both sides after all the house wins nothing if they are the only ones playing
@@diveblock2058that’s the show
@@diveblock2058I really hope they don’t retcon him into being part of the reason the nukes were dropped. Having him be someone who actively knows what’s going to happen and tries to prevent makes him so much more interesting.
@@jaiden3473 I mean we don't know. We know that vault tec was going to but there's still the chance someone beat them to it concidering mr house had his chip late
He ain’t selfish at all lol.
My head canon is that he joined to avoid getting taken out and then just turned his helicopter around when all the members were heading for the oil rigs.
So, if we checked his inbox we could expect 57 increasingly exasperated messages from Richardson dating back to before the rig?
@@YourLocalMairaabooprobably. Probably the same with the voult tec lab rat competition. Joining both so that he will not get gang up as the other, ditching them right after the bombs drop.
If he was, he was a very loose member.
I think House is his own man! He doesn't look like he wants to share his fortune with others
What matters most to House is that you’re under his command. Once the Three families were “civilized” he really didn’t care what they did in their free time as long as they did their job.
He hated oversight of someone higher or an equal because it will slow down his plans. Probably joined them (on paper) to not be singke out.
Part? No Collaboration/associate with the Enclave? Most likely
Probably not an active member but he definitely knew about the enclave
“Hey, Robbie, wanna join the cool kids club?”
“What else did you want to discuss?”
The round table in the show seems like the origin of the enclave
I think that the fallout series only solidify this theory: during the companies meeting, he is the only one uninterested in Vault-tech plans
House was probably like me got invited to join the enclave multiple times but never quite was able to justify the membership payments
He wasn't apart of it. But he know of the existing of enclave
Well we can be pretty certain he interacted with them at least, his company was pretty directly connected with enclave projects.
Me, making him my minister of economy on HoI4 Fallout mod:
"Bull bear long 15"-Ulysses
"Strip Vegas Mojave Dam" -House
"Tech For Me Only" -Arthur Maxson
"Super Mutant Fuck You" -Enclave
"Repeat Words Because Cool" -The Master
"Science.. for many raisins." -Big MT
"In goddamn what" -Benny
Scientists getting paid in raisins wouldn't be a surprise in fallout
I only understood House, Maxson, and Enclave the Others didn't Make Sense TBH
he obviously had a seat on their council. But he was also working on his own contingencies. Getting sure the House always wins.
House is a one man army
No enclave or ncr or anything else
Just house
I'd say he was an opportunistic and disloyal member, using their resorces for his own projects, then going rogue once he no longer had any use of them and had the security to defend himself if they don't like him abandoning them on somewhat neutral terms.
I don't think he would be when the enclave are dead set on being the only living beings on earth, House wants power and there's be none if everyone but him and the enclave were dead
That's a huge flaw in most villains' plans. No point in ruling over a world with nobody to be ruled in it. House is smarter than that, as might be expected from someone who reacted to his brother cheating him out of a share of Dad's tool-and-die company by founding the second-biggest tech company in America.
@@DeaconBlues117yeah the Enclave are kinda dumb, I think it was explained that the enclave (at least in fallout 2) are pretty inbred
House doesn't play well with others unless he's the one on the top. I highly doubt he'd put his lot in with the Enclave.
He couldn’t even be peaceful with his brother, he doesn’t let ANYONE with a chance of being strong live, and he is very serious about you listening to him.
No way in hell would he go “Let’s join a government group!”
"For too long has my back been whipped by the IRS, my hands and feet bound by union regulations and Income Tax. "
to be honest, his brother was mentally ill
His brother was the one that screwed him.
No, but he definitely knew about them and traded RobCo tech to them and Vault Tec.
After the convo where he talks about colony ships and shit got me on board with him so fast
While I think he knows about the Enclave, he probably also knows about their goals, not only would his goals be contrary to the Enclave, but they would also probably want to take House's technology for themselves, which isn't something House would be willing to give to them.
In the Amazon series they feature him on the pre-war business council that created the Enclave.
I think House's ego is too big for the enclave but if he was I'd be wondering why he isn't the new president by new vegas
He loves vegas too much to let the enclave squander it.
He was invited but because they didn’t immediately bow to his feet he rejected the offer
He owns repconn which directly dealt with the enclave
I'm pretty Sure he was CEO of RobCo not Reppcon that's somebody else but RobCo helped make the Assualtrons for the US Government in during the sino-American War and the Enclave ends up having some in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 how did the Enclave get those plans from RobCo without House Knowing
The Enclave wanted House involved, but House was smarter and too egotistic to join them. Had he been a part of the Enclave, he would've mentioned and probably had a hand in assisting/providing retirements for the Remnants instead of letting them spread apart in squalor.
mmm, chip
the prewar united states government (Enclave) had many open contracts with robco industries, along with vault tec, med tec, and many more so it’s not exactly sure if House is apart of the enclave but he was most definitely doing business with the enclave prior to the bombs dropping.
It would've definitely been Cool If he Was in the Enclave but at the Same Time it would be cool If the Enclave came over and Offered House Enclave Membership but Turned Him Down and hit them with some badass One-Liner but If he was in the Enclave he was Probably that Member who only helped when it furthered his own Goals
Yeah, I just think what House wants and what the Enclave wants just don’t align
He probably had some kind of agreement with them, because he did only own Vegas, he didn't want anything else so it would make sense they were cool with him just having the strip.
House's concern is less control for itself, but more the way others will bicker and lose focus on the bigger picture or long term plans. The Enclave is everything that got the Old World to where it ended up in 2077. His interest in it, if there would have been any, would have been more for information gathering than tangible strategy.
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He hated government, so he clearly worked with enclave(life extending tech is probably from them), but not join in
There’s a character in the Star Wars EU/Legends books, I can’t remember his name, but he’s a dark Jedi, and he basically posits that Palpatine/the empire had no real power because they were to big, too spread out, and couldn’t directly exert control over their constituency themselves. This dark Jedi instead preferred to micromanage basically this single community on one planet (until thrawn bullied him into joining his group, but whatever). I think house is like that
I feel like he would have a connection to them as he had alot of influence- think more like lockhead Martin,Through investor's. Whilst not directly working with them due to his thought's on Ncr.He likely calculated the bombs dropping by cozing up with enclave members
Too bad I overthrew House and established Vegas as an independent socialist republic where I got rid of the families, redistributed all of House’s wealth, gave all humans, non-feral ghouls, and non-violent super mutants equal rights, established universal suffrage, nationalized heavy industry (so the government had a source of income and citizens would barely need to pay taxes, and they would get monthly stipends from the revenue), conquered Big Mt and used the research and technology to replace the scientific expertise of House to advance human civilization. House is rolling in his grave, just as I wanted lol
As someone who played fallout 1 back in '98 it would even make sense if The Master had a backup facility somewhere that brought his story back.
I could see him join then simply take all their tech to advance his plans then forget about them after the war
He was shown in the television series with the shadowy enclave like group at the end
I think its against his belief to be a apart of something may be it democracy, orther corpos and the like that wasnt him of the top.
He believes that oversight from others will sliw down progress, that he can do everything alone (almost became true).
I agrée. His way or the highway lol
House is only ever on his side, he was always like that
One of the things that I was thinking was since he was based on Howard Hughes and stuff like that, he started off as a member of the enclave, but because he was kind of… Nutty and had ambitions that worked in the game at least but pre-war would've seemed insane he moved farther and farther away from the enclave
I think he was in the pre war enclave to get info for his calculations on when the bombs would drop
He probably knew about it at least considering that he sold a lot of robots and computers to them.
He could get proposition from enclave right before nuclear war but he refused and prefered to be autocrat
I highly doubt it. He wanted to be his own man even in the pre-war world. I doubt he'd wanna share power or serve others with all the resources and power he'd wield in the wasteland, essentially having his own kingdom
Nah, house made it abundantly clear his was a pragmatist who judged people by their utility, and that he saw the old world's leaders as morons who caused society's collapse.
So, I doubt he would want to associate old-world ideologues who just want to regurgitate the old wartime world.
I think he knew of them, probably went to some specific meetings where his expertise was useful, but that’s it
Simple answer from yours truly, no.
I see the coucle scene in the fallout show as the formation of the enclave, and in that house declines
He strikes me as the kind of man who's ego would be to big to join the Enclave.
I find it likely he was aware of them in some manner and the Enclave may have contracted certain projects through his company.
However I can't see House being part of the Enclave and possibly being subservient or held back by people he didn't consider his intellectual or business equals or who had a vision he had no interest in.
Likewise I think the Enclave would be hesitant to bring him in. House offers a lot of advantages of he joins, but you do risk him either trying to dominate the Enclave or using the arrangement to further his goals rather than the Enclave's.
The Enclave would need to get technology and materials from House just due to Robco having some of the best tech and manufacturing facilities. However this would probably be done through proxies and shell companies with House deducing their existence from that somehow (he did supposedly predict when the war would go nuclear in advance using mathematic algorithms so figuring out the existence of a shadow government wouldn't be too big of a stretch).
I mean he would likely accept an invite just so he could have the information from them.
And so he wouldn't be a direct target in anyway.
Keep your enemies close type of deal
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I believe he was a sympathizer.
I could see him being part of the Enclave because it would be smarter to join the ruling faction temporarily while plotting to usurp power. Part of why he plays nice with both Caesars Legion and the NCR as they both have a chance to rule the Mojave, and when that war is over, he could easily take over whichever side is still standing.
House is all for himself
Enclave is all for themselves
Brotherhood is all for themselves
Vault tec is all for themselves
I just started playing NV for the first time and at first I was fully on board making house my pick. But then it hit me, his casino is literally completely empty of any human beings… it’s strikingly lonely inside, I figured that was a hint from the developers of how the rest of new Vegas felt about him, so at the last second I decided to go with yes Man. I’m not finished with the game yet but I feel he’s the best choice?
Yeah I'm pretty sure he worked with vault-tec before the war
Yeah I think that is true I mean he might sell his products to them but he will never join Enclave or anybody else because he believes to be his own boss the be the only ruler domain yes the ruler Mojave yes Las Vegas Strip and he considered himself is basically King
An alternate timeline where the chip arrived on time and House shot down all the nukes and didn’t fall into hibernation would be fascinating since the Enclave might have made a move on Vegas in the 2240s.
Hey there, love the channel! I've always had a personal belief that the Enclave is a loose term to describe the men who stood behind America!
The elitists! The ultra rich who stood in some position of power in prewar government that chose to invest and band together to watch the rest of the populace struggle and perish...
You have the main known Enclave bases but I'd bet it all that there are dozens of lesser bases set up by footpads and higherups that chose to be independent!
In this case I'd say House was a man of many connections, while I don't believe he stood firmly in their beliefs he took advantage of their resources and then closed off his own when the big day came around.
I mean even he wanted to make a space colony so
He probably might have been
There's no might have been to it he's alive and my play through and they are they in the show because they know that people play what they want to play.😅
I know it's in their best interest to keep them alive character wise he's more interesting alive.😅
He's one of my favorite parts of New Vegas so yeah I wouldn't say it's a deal-breaker going forward in the show but I would really like to see him.
I think that the world really needs him and the future colonies of Mars and stuff like that he can get us there. You know after they fix the planet😅
Im getting mad quagmire vibes from him
He probably would have been too independent for their liking and, as a result, probably wouldn't have invited him to join on account of him being a wild-card and difficult to control.
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I agree. Plus, given the fact that House is kind of a glory hog, I don't think he would have liked to share his powers with others. In fact, given the chance he could have interacted during the events of F2, it would have been quite likely that he would have supported the chosen one against them and look for the platinum chip.
I find it most likely that the Enclave would have tried to recruit House, but he refused for the reasons you stated
What's better? Control over a republic that doesn't recognize you or control over your immediate location?
One thing i never understood is Robco made the Assaultrons. But he has none
I agree completely with your hypothesis. Mr house truly believed he was the smartest man in America and prolly the world. He set up everything to defend new Vegas, and sent for the chip on his own, with sole intentions of rebuilding, preserving and ruling Vegas himself. I believe his mentality would be that he doesn’t see any value in outside help, simply because he believes he’s too smart to need it
More like Enclave's sub contractor...
I believe I heard or read somewhere that he was legitimately asked by the Enclave group, but he turned them down. He believed that he was better than the group
Judging by his personality i believe he wouldn't want to be a member of the Enclave as it wpuld mean too much sharing of power but was almost definitely repeatedly approached by the Enclave.
Just based on his reference clip in the fallout show. Very unlikely. He was barely willing to go along with vault tec, he needs to guarantee he gets himself in first place. Enclave would have stood in the way of that, and vice versa
Long answer, he could have been at some point. He was a member For a short period of time.. Short answer. Probably not because it's beneath him. He aims higher
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He was part of its The reason hes still alive is so he can pay for their armour that he lost
I think he would've seen the Enclave as either doomed due to it's own design in the wasteland, or believed it wouldn't save the world but just make things worse.
If his ultimate plan is to give humanity a second chance on a new planet, I think he'd see the Enclave as merely repeating the mistakes of the past, without the chance to change, grow and be moulded by the post-war world, unlike the NCR.
He was definately part of the pre war enclave - where do you think he got his life extending machinery from ?
He had a vault under his casino (or at least parts to make one - which included a reactor (and then there is the vault at the bunker hill where he had his securitron army and factory) - and lets not forget several powerfull roof mounted laser cannons to shoot down ICBM-s i seriously doubt the military would allow him to get his hands on that kind of hardware if he wasnt the part of the pre war enclave. That said most likely he had his own plans in place alongside of theirs. Heck it's entirely possible they knew this and it was them who sabotaged him to take him out (he mentioned he had severe problems with software) - it might have been them who tried to have him removed by making sure he had the hardware but lacked the proper software to run it properly or at least with limited capability. He might have even discovered it and that is why he had the platinum chip made to remove that very obstacle.
Im saying this because there is plenty of evidence on varous computers in this game and the others that the pre war corps have had cutrhroat mindset - and so did the US military. Coroprate espionage and sabotage was also very much part of the scene at the time btw and since he was on the proverbial top - there were probably more than a few people who would love to take him out.
So yes - i think he was part of the pre war enclave - but they didnt trust him entirely because they knew he had his own plans parell to theirs and that would make him kinda unreliable ally in their mindset. So they could have tried to set him up for failure along the way but werent entriely succesfull in doing so. They might have tried to put a snag in his proverbial wheel and should he fall from his bicycle along the way due to that minor hinderance ? - oh well such is life kinda thing eh ? :D
I had just killed and eaten Mr. House
I wouldn’t say he was exactly part of the enclave, but I could see him making deals with them pre war. “An entire oil rig as an HQ and a bunch of people with cash in their wallet? Sign me up!”