Fallout 76 Lore - What Happened to the Whitespring Enclave

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • This video covers the story of the Enclave forces headquartered in the Congressional Bunker beneath the Whitespring Resort.
    Notes:
    1. I mistakenly say that the residents of Vault 76 emerged after 26 years, when they emerged after 25 years.
    2. There is no direct information saying that the Enclave used FEV from their lab at the Whitespring to reactivate the vats at the West-Tec Facility, but the vats were deactivated by the staff before they left shortly after the bombs, and the Super Mutant threat did not arise until after Taggerdy’s Thunder visited, leaving me to believe that they were inactive. The bioweapons lab likely had FEV on site, especially given the close relationship between West-Tek and the Department of Agriculture.
    3. The idea that the Department of Agriculture programs are fronts to gain funding for the nefarious projects is speculative, but I believe that it makes sense. The most obvious false front comes with the Department of Agriculture building the new water system for Huntersville, which was the system used to dose the population with FEV.
    4. I speculate that the reason the contacts for members of the cabinet were removed from the early warning system is that they were not members of the Enclave. It could be that it was simply a clerical error of some sort, but I believe that the true reason was to exclude non-members from the early warning.
    5. I speculate that the Enclave kidnapped test subjects for their Serum program. This is not directly mentioned, I don’t think it would have worked logically any other way. After the purge, there were only 48 members. Many of the first tests with serums killed the users. I can’t believe that they would have risked their already reduced numbers in this manner.
    6. I found the blueprint for the bunker online, but I haven’t found it in game. It does appear legitimate to me, and my hope is that it’s simply hidden in the inaccessible executive suite.

Комментарии • 89

  • @AustinFoss00
    @AustinFoss00 3 года назад +127

    We still have hope to see the Enclave in future games. There is still the Chicago base that we haven't seen yet and Fallout 2 mentions an Enclave Vault research group that may still be a group of Enclave members somewhere in the U.S. They could also always just add new lore of another Enclave base being in whatever state the next game will take place in. Here's hoping we can join them if they do show up again

    • @silhouetted_shadow3486
      @silhouetted_shadow3486 Год назад

      ....JOIN???? FASCIST!!!

    • @tinaherr3856
      @tinaherr3856 6 месяцев назад +3

      Plus, in Fallout 3 you face *Colonel* Autumn, not General Autumn. So there is a likely chance that there are other Enclave locations still active

    • @fuoco1365
      @fuoco1365 6 месяцев назад +7

      I'm definitely hopeful the enclave get a resurgence again one day.
      It would really be nice if they would finally be a faction you could fully side with.
      Especially since after 3 we could join people like the legion or institute which are both flawed as fuck factions to the point of being very imorale.
      So there is no reason to say "Enclave bad meaning you can't join."

    • @Theredglovedman
      @Theredglovedman 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@fuoco1365 I agree completely I buy all the enclave stuff in 76

    • @mjhill._
      @mjhill._ 4 месяца назад +1

      @@fuoco1365fallout 4’s next gen update added in the quest “echoes of the past” in which you investigate the enclave and so far i’ve found out they are recovering x0-2 armor and hellfire armor along with weapons. also stated they are to not engage with the BoS. not sure if it’s canon tho

  • @adarus9941
    @adarus9941 3 года назад +67

    I am willing to believe The Enclave will come at some point in a Future Update, Expeditions can help pave the way for them.

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  3 года назад +8

      They likely still have many outposts across the country in 2104. If it weren’t for the bad decisions made by Eckhart and the homicidal AI that ran their other bunker in Appalachia, there would still be 2 occupied bunkers in Appalachia alone.

    • @rhettshanley8712
      @rhettshanley8712 5 месяцев назад +1

      2 years late but they will DEFINITELY be making an appearance in some future update. Orlando at the Refuge is always taking about “management” the “owners” of the white spring.

    • @coleboy762
      @coleboy762 4 месяца назад +1

      This comment aged like fine wine with the FO4 update adding Enclave

  • @Wasteoil2262
    @Wasteoil2262 Год назад +30

    Has anyone been in the server room and seen that modus is at 55% restoration, more importantly has anyone been there in previous updates to see if that percentage is changing

  • @ThomasSpettel
    @ThomasSpettel 3 года назад +51

    I like to think that, if it was not for the treachery of Thomas Eckhart, the Enclave in Appalachia might have survived.

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  3 года назад +19

      There are a few points that everything could have turned around for the Enclave, but Thomas Eckhart made everything worse until it was too late.

  • @sparks3430
    @sparks3430 3 года назад +22

    This quality of content deserves more viewers, you're doing a great job for a game that doesnt get all too much love!

  • @UltimegaSeven
    @UltimegaSeven 3 года назад +31

    Bethesda cant make a main story worth shit but when it comes to side stories, they knock it out the park

  • @damonellison2657
    @damonellison2657 Год назад +9

    @Bethesda please give us a HUGE enclave questline in 2023! This could be a big reason for people to come back or just get started.

  • @bluemrgutsy8351
    @bluemrgutsy8351 3 года назад +22

    Interesting story thx for covering Bethesda needs to make a Enclave update

  • @bpw8214
    @bpw8214 3 года назад +21

    wow that was so interesting, Thank you for explaining.

  • @djungelskog9581
    @djungelskog9581 9 месяцев назад +10

    I choose to believe that general and paladin Swafford are the same because fuck thats such s cool concept

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  9 месяцев назад +4

      I like to think so too

    • @colddaze6680
      @colddaze6680 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@IrresoluteCartographerA Enclave general defecting to the BoS, that would be a first yeah?

    • @tinaherr3856
      @tinaherr3856 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@IrresoluteCartographerthat, or the two are related (family) in some way

  • @wildside316
    @wildside316 2 года назад +11

    The Enclave, from what I read, wanted to wipe most of humanity off the planet, so those "accidental" creations of the monstrosities? "Accidental?" I doubt that. I haven't played any other Fallout games other than this and Fallout 4, but the Institute and the Enclave, seems to me they are both of a kind, and both wanted to remake humanity in their image.
    If only by a hair, I wonder which was worse, Enclave or Institute?

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  2 года назад +17

      The scorchbeasts were accidentally created in the first place, but then capitalized on by Eckhart. Personally I believe the Enclave is worse than the Institute, but there are huge problems with both

    • @wintertrooper7918
      @wintertrooper7918 2 года назад +9

      @@IrresoluteCartographer yeah the enclave was founded by the highest level of government and military (all of which were highly and incredibly corrupt) they see wastelanders and ghouls and shit as being abominations needing to be eradicated

    • @jacknedry3925
      @jacknedry3925 2 года назад +2

      I view the West Virginia Enclave like how a different chapter of the BOS.
      Different.

  • @VenturianCapital
    @VenturianCapital 2 года назад +4

    Your videos are amazing man. Quality, professional work. Inspired me to explor the world of 76. Thank you for all the hard work.

  • @clonecommander2708
    @clonecommander2708 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for taking the time to make awsome video.

  • @jill_aws1899
    @jill_aws1899 3 года назад +9

    I always learn so much, thank you! Wait, we're all in trouble now because we know their secrets. Guess we need to get our own bunker. LoL

  • @captainmikehagen459
    @captainmikehagen459 3 года назад +2

    Great video love to see coverage of the white spring resort and bunker

  • @zeekly4135
    @zeekly4135 3 года назад +4

    I always wondered what had happened, thanks I guess

  • @pierQRzt180
    @pierQRzt180 3 месяца назад

    awesome recap. Equal or better than other well known fallout lore casts

  • @Jiraiya_9142
    @Jiraiya_9142 5 месяцев назад +1

    Fallout 76’s lore is alot better than most give it credit for. Great video!

  • @Tony_Ho
    @Tony_Ho 3 года назад +7

    You deserve more viewers

  • @Vexxus_Prism
    @Vexxus_Prism 3 года назад +2

    Underrated channel

  • @Wredd60
    @Wredd60 2 года назад +4

    This sounds like real life

    • @someguy9293
      @someguy9293 8 месяцев назад +2

      Sometimes, fiction is just a reflection of reality from a different POV.

  • @UserRedZero
    @UserRedZero Месяц назад

    Kinda funny that the Enclave is okay with annihilating civilization in nuclear war but apparently many who are a part of it draw the line at releasing giant bats.

  • @2001sith
    @2001sith 10 месяцев назад

    I was reading up on the enclave during these times because some of the dates keep being mixed up. Ellen Santiago was put into a coma in July of 2084 due to the fact she was against the beasts being released til 2086 but Whitespring surveillance recordings 6.9.7 is from June 30th of 2083 which meant the plan started not long after the first beast was created and it took 3 years for them to revolt per the wiki and what people believe in 2086 but then you have Whitespring surveillance recordings 8.5.4 which is from February 27 of 2085 which puts the civil war in the bunker a whole year earlier.

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  10 месяцев назад +2

      I’ve seen those those dates on the wiki related to the Enclave date system. I’ve not seen a reliable source on where they were obtained, so I generally disregard them.

    • @2001sith
      @2001sith 10 месяцев назад

      @@IrresoluteCartographer Whats the best way to sort through the information provided if its dateless?

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  10 месяцев назад +2

      You can still go through things in order based on the dating system and attempt to connect them to outside events that are dated through logic, i.e.:
      Eckhart wanted a rating of DEFCON 1, thus he ordered the release of the liberator bots. When those failed to achieve his goal he ordered the reactivation of the FEV vats at West-Tek. When the Responders and Brotherhood defeated the supermutants toward the end of May 2086, Eckhart had to move to the next option: releasing the Scorch Beasts. That release both destroyed Harpers Ferry, which fell around 7 years after the Free States started helping in the summer of 2079, and set the coup attempt in motion, which dates those events to the end of spring/start of summer 2086.

  • @ExitonD
    @ExitonD 2 года назад +3

    It would be a decent single player game provided the story is more lore friendly and interactive with player participation. Instead they made it MMO. 🙄

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  2 года назад +5

      I’m definitely looking forward to the next mainline Fallout game, but I will say they did some great world building here. 76 absolutely has it’s technical issues, and the issues that come with it being an MMO style game, but I’m still glad we get another Fallout experience, especially given how long it’s going to be until 5 is released if Bethesda sticks with the current release cycle.

  • @ismcev6983
    @ismcev6983 3 года назад +3

    Awsome video

  • @tristar9998
    @tristar9998 4 месяца назад

    Its hard for me not to see eminem everytime i see the enclave emblem 😂

  • @shareeclifton2265
    @shareeclifton2265 10 месяцев назад

    me wanting to nuke someone who set up a trap by their vending machine that killed me and then they took what I bought but having to spend 30min soloing my way through the silo and them having already logged off by the time I got there

  • @MJC1891
    @MJC1891 5 месяцев назад +1

    7:26 it was vault tech

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  5 месяцев назад +1

      Possibly, just because they made plans to do so doesn’t mean those plans necessarily came to fruition.

    • @MJC1891
      @MJC1891 5 месяцев назад

      @@IrresoluteCartographer true true. I’m just wondering what the cannon will be in the next fallout. Sucks shady sands is gone

  • @marktaylor314
    @marktaylor314 3 года назад +2

    Nice one 👍🏻🙂

  • @Jamelico
    @Jamelico 5 месяцев назад +1

    2years later the enclave is actually real just a different name..... places like epsteins Island and such....... someone is running all that lol enclave seems like an accurate name 😂

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  5 месяцев назад +2

      The game came out in November 2018 and it dealt with bats carrying a plague accidentally created in a government lab.

  • @Zoten001
    @Zoten001 4 месяца назад

    Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

  • @stargazer99
    @stargazer99 2 года назад

    Could paladin swafford be a relative to the enclave swafford.

    • @IrresoluteCartographer
      @IrresoluteCartographer  2 года назад +3

      Possibly. It’s interesting to consider a split between father and son or brother and brother into these two organizations

  • @THEBLACKRIGHTWINGER
    @THEBLACKRIGHTWINGER Год назад

    God bless the enclave

  • @zeusyoursonhasreturnedibri7603

    Damn