I always knew that there were different solenoids ,mainly 3 and 4 post. Recently I had a call to work on an older ONAN getset from 1975. Right away I knew the solenoid was bad but luckily I used my ohm meter after removal and noticed differences than say a Ford solenoid. Your video was very informative! Thanks you for your knowledge!!
I have been having electrical problems and this was one of the first things that I replaced; then diodes, more recently starter. I remember when I bought the solenoid the clerk "matched it up" but didn't use a multimeter. I still have the old one and will compare it. Excellent video, Thanks.
Wow! Incredible! They look exactly the same. That's the difference between a Technician and a parts replacer. Thank you Sir for passing us your awesome knowledge. Will you do a video on using a multi meter?
Im 51 years old and thought I knew a little about this topic but you just schooled me and i will no longer listen to my fellow mechanics. Thank you for posting.
I actually learned alot. I came for something else but now i know why my old onan generator will just shut down after a few hours running, then start again after it cools down. Sounds like the previous owner, my grandpa, installed the wrong solonoid for low oil shutdown.
I’m unable to find on internet the type of solenoid I have… it very tall but thanks to that video tutorial I now know how find the ground!!! Thank you soooo much I’ve been struggling with that 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
By the way is there a way to use a Ford solenoid on a Oldsmobile 1978 403 there is no room for the solenoid on top of the starter getting it in and out around the pipes is next to Impossible as one person. + my wires where cooked that guard and is useless the car has 46k then parked.
My friend had a well drilling rig. Great place for kids to play when no one was there to shoo them away ! Battery always dead ! I put a 12 volt constant duty "relay" that switched all control voltage in the truck . Iginition switch operated the "relay" so the entire electrical system was dead unless ignition switch was on .
Yup a 12 volt solenoid with a 4 ohm coil would draw about 3 amperes and if used as cont. service, it will burn out, whereas a 12 v relay would be 12 or more ohms. I rebuilt on of these. drilled out rivets wire brushed armature and contacts, new spring, there was an oil wick, so I oiled it, Solenoid used to send power to a 12 v gen used as a stating motor for a BS 9hp engine.
Working with these since the 70's, Luckily I never had to Deal with one that used the I for Ground that I Remember. Great info and Clear Explaning, Seems I had run across one in the Past where Mounting Plate was Isolated, and had a small push on Terminal for the Ground, Have you seen those? Or am I thinking something Else? Thanks
I have an RV that has a solenoid that isolates a charging circuit; Chassis battery & House batteries. These are known to go bad so I would like to have one on hand; what would be the best type to purchase that would last the longest? Thanks
Probably why we have a tug that has to solenoid one for the starter the other for the engine and accessories and the one for the accessories gets hot to touch and run for few hours and turns off no start u put a new one it will get hot and stop working
hello there, I am in the right place. I have an old tractor that uses a 24 volt starter, the altenator/generatior is 12 volt. A series-parallel switch(solenoid) temporarily gives 24 volts for starter. That switch is burnt out. Can I use a 24063 spst to replace that switch?
What solenoid would you rec.for a 12v marine winch. Has ford one on it now with I and S terminals. Grd from batt.and motor are on I terminal. Is there a HD version?
I’ve got a 12v version of the last solenoid… three terminals…the two main posts are each connected to two positive (one wire to one positive post. And the other to the other battery) battery posts (bass boat, with dual batteries)… the small terminal in front is connected to a single red wire, that I have not traced…. Can anyone tell me what I’m looking at? It’s old (1995 vintage) help! Thanks for any ideas…Kevin
Had NO IDEA the ones that looked the same were different, this is WHY after I fried one of my mowers wiring I WON'T work on my other one, & I'm screwed because I'm 30 miles away from a shop in rural Florida and even the shops I contact WON'T even hand sketch me a basic starter / charge circuit diagram SMH
Can you use a car solenoid on a motorcycle or any other type of solenoid on a bike such as a homemade Chopper with a 50cc engine? I know it's a funny question thank you very much nice video
what about a 3 stud negative to excite vs positive to excite solenoid? wondering about this for my 80's boss plow. I had to order 6 different solenoids (two of which said they were negative to excite, but weren't) until I found one that did. How do you test for negative to excite? I had a mechanic fix it for me.
7minits 10 second high relay had 28 ohume and right had 60 but explaining right has lower resistance and left is higher resistance even 28 oume( sorry for spelling) and explaing left higher ohume has high current relay right had 60 oume very confusing please help me understand
First time here, and solenoids are above my pay grade. I thought they were things that rode on starter motors like a little space shuttle on top of a 747. Turns out that on my Econoline E150 van the solenoid is tucked in to the very front corner of the van, even farther out than the battery. Like they were trying to hide it or something. Nowhere near the starter motor, anyway. And now this video's got solenoids looking like other solenoids. Like they're trying to fool even the mechanics. Sheesh. I hope my mechanic knows what he's doing.
those of you that dont have a meter try test -----turn key only gives a click stop go to soleoid short 2 big bolts on solenoid this will spin starter if battery is good replace solenoid try to get same type so wires a mtg holes match elect. they are all he same
He means I believe leave the starting ignition in the run position and with a screw driver touch both pools at the same time (with the metal shank of the screw driver) or any thing that's conductive made of metal like a piece of solid house wiring that's has most of the insulation on it that can be safely held on to while bypassing the internals of the relay to Ingage the starter for starting and once started remove screw driver to stop the Ingaging and spining of the starter only need to do this if turning the key does not turn starter spinning. If starter turns over but no start it could be a bad ignition switch or fuel pump including no fuel or very low fuel in tank ect. When bypassing the starter solenoid and it starts it`s most likely a bad starter solenoid; replace with OEM or a good after market thats like the original. Ps don't run starter for more than say 10 seconds at a time you could damage the starter or at least run the battery down.
Onan? Seriously? I'm not gonna say on line what the Bible says about the sin of Onan. I could make one joke too many. Okay, on to the next topic--is that a Boston accent I hear?
This is what experience means. Thank you for an excellent presentation!
I always knew that there were different solenoids ,mainly 3 and 4 post. Recently I had a call to work on an older ONAN getset from 1975. Right away I knew the solenoid was bad but luckily I used my ohm meter after removal and noticed differences than say a Ford solenoid. Your video was very informative! Thanks you for your knowledge!!
I have been having electrical problems and this was one of the first things that I replaced; then diodes, more recently starter.
I remember when I bought the solenoid the clerk "matched it up" but didn't use a multimeter. I still have the old one and will compare it. Excellent video, Thanks.
Wow! Incredible! They look exactly the same. That's the difference between a Technician and a parts replacer. Thank you Sir for passing us your awesome knowledge. Will you do a video on using a multi meter?
Im 51 years old and thought I knew a little about this topic but you just schooled me and i will no longer listen to my fellow mechanics. Thank you for posting.
Staaaahhhhter solenoid? Actually, a very well done video.
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I actually learned alot. I came for something else but now i know why my old onan generator will just shut down after a few hours running, then start again after it cools down. Sounds like the previous owner, my grandpa, installed the wrong solonoid for low oil shutdown.
Very very helpful ! Thank you sir.
I’m unable to find on internet the type of solenoid I have… it very tall but thanks to that video tutorial I now know how find the ground!!! Thank you soooo much I’ve been struggling with that 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I got 19.1 what dose that mean is it continuous?
@@ali-sleimanchehade6129 YES ... ANY NUMBER ON THE RESISTANCE SCALE IS CONTINUOUS ... except infinity or ol ... I think .
By the way is there a way to use a Ford solenoid on a Oldsmobile 1978 403 there is no room for the solenoid on top of the starter getting it in and out around the pipes is next to Impossible as one person. + my wires where cooked that guard and is useless the car has 46k then parked.
Which would be best for battery isolation?
I thank you for your time and ease explaining the difference between the
Thank you for posting this. Just what I needed to see!
Great explanation thank you, sir!
Thanks so much for making this vid. It is really helpful!!!
Glad it was helpful!
My friend had a well drilling rig. Great place for kids to play when no one was there to shoo them away ! Battery always dead ! I put a 12 volt constant duty "relay" that switched all control voltage in the truck . Iginition switch operated the "relay" so the entire electrical system was dead unless ignition switch was on .
Thanks you for doing this very informative!!
Yup a 12 volt solenoid with a 4 ohm coil would draw about 3 amperes and if used as cont.
service, it will burn out, whereas a 12 v relay would be 12 or more ohms. I rebuilt on of these.
drilled out rivets wire brushed armature and contacts, new spring, there was an oil wick, so I
oiled it, Solenoid used to send power to a 12 v gen used as a stating motor for a BS 9hp engine.
Does it really matter if the battery power goes to the left side of the solenoid and not the right?
Excellent! Great job!
Working with these since the 70's, Luckily I never had to Deal with one that used the I for Ground that I Remember. Great info and Clear Explaning, Seems I had run across one in the Past where Mounting Plate was Isolated, and had a small push on Terminal for the Ground, Have you seen those? Or am I thinking something Else? Thanks
I have an RV that has a solenoid that isolates a charging circuit; Chassis battery & House batteries. These are known to go bad so I would like to have one on hand; what would be the best type to purchase that would last the longest? Thanks
Outstanding !!!!!!
Thanks Again, Very Useful Informative videos.
Excellent video!
Hi Steve very interesting. I’m working on a 50’s vintage water cooled Kohler L650 generator. do you have any experience with these ?
Probably why we have a tug that has to solenoid one for the starter the other for the engine and accessories and the one for the accessories gets hot to touch and run for few hours and turns off no start u put a new one it will get hot and stop working
hello there, I am in the right place. I have an old tractor that uses a 24 volt starter, the altenator/generatior is 12 volt. A series-parallel switch(solenoid) temporarily gives 24 volts for starter. That switch is burnt out. Can I use a 24063 spst to replace that switch?
This was very helpful. Thanks.
What solenoid would you rec.for a 12v marine winch. Has ford one on it now with I and S terminals. Grd from batt.and motor are on I terminal. Is there a HD version?
Do you have a part number for the black solenoid tested at 11:30? I've been trying to find one just like it, but haven't been able to.
Hello. Can i use a car or any other relay on a home built bike? Thanks.
I’ve got a 12v version of the last solenoid… three terminals…the two main posts are each connected to two positive (one wire to one positive post. And the other to the other battery) battery posts (bass boat, with dual batteries)… the small terminal in front is connected to a single red wire, that I have not traced…. Can anyone tell me what I’m looking at? It’s old (1995 vintage) help! Thanks for any ideas…Kevin
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Had NO IDEA the ones that looked the same were different, this is WHY after I fried one of my mowers wiring I WON'T work on my other one, & I'm screwed because I'm 30 miles away from a shop in rural Florida and even the shops I contact WON'T even hand sketch me a basic starter / charge circuit diagram SMH
Informative. Thanks for taking the time.
LOL , understand about 7 minutes into this, BET this is HOW I screwed my lawnmower wiring
Very informative video thanks 👍👌
Great video. You’d make a great Santa
Thank you!!
I watched this 5 times:)
NICE COMMENT !!! EXCELLENT VIDEO !!! I am not at 5 yet , but I am CERTAIN I will surpass that !!!
Can you use a car solenoid on a motorcycle or any other type of solenoid on a bike such as a homemade Chopper with a 50cc engine? I know it's a funny question thank you very much nice video
You can, might be overkill for what you need. but should dpo the job
what about a 3 stud negative to excite vs positive to excite solenoid? wondering about this for my 80's boss plow. I had to order 6 different solenoids (two of which said they were negative to excite, but weren't) until I found one that did. How do you test for negative to excite? I had a mechanic fix it for me.
Swap the wires Eisenstien.
7minits 10 second high relay had 28 ohume and right had 60 but explaining right has lower resistance and left is higher resistance even 28 oume( sorry for spelling) and explaing left higher ohume has high current relay right had 60 oume very confusing please help me understand
Lower resistance has high current stater relay right ?
Right.
Lower resistance = intermittent duty
Higher resistance = continuous duty
First time here, and solenoids are above my pay grade. I thought they were things that rode on starter motors like a little space shuttle on top of a 747. Turns out that on my Econoline E150 van the solenoid is tucked in to the very front corner of the van, even farther out than the battery. Like they were trying to hide it or something. Nowhere near the starter motor, anyway. And now this video's got solenoids looking like other solenoids. Like they're trying to fool even the mechanics. Sheesh. I hope my mechanic knows what he's doing.
They are really easy. Just an electronic switch that can handle way more amps than a simple toggle switch.
Dude mixed the stater with continous 😅
those of you that dont have a meter try test -----turn key only gives a click stop go to soleoid short 2 big bolts on solenoid this will spin starter if battery is good replace solenoid try to get same type so wires a mtg holes match elect. they are all he same
He means I believe leave the starting ignition in the run position and with a screw driver touch both pools at the same time (with the metal shank of the screw driver) or any thing that's conductive made of metal like a piece of solid house wiring that's has most of the insulation on it that
can be safely held on to while bypassing the internals of the relay to Ingage the starter for starting and once started remove screw driver to stop the Ingaging and spining of the starter only need to do this if turning the key does not turn starter spinning. If starter turns over but no start it could be a bad ignition switch or fuel pump including no fuel or very low fuel in tank ect. When bypassing the starter solenoid and it starts it`s most likely a bad starter solenoid; replace with OEM or a good after market thats like the original. Ps don't run starter for more than say 10 seconds at a time you could damage the starter or at least run the battery down.
Onan? Seriously? I'm not gonna say on line what the Bible says about the sin of Onan. I could make one joke too many. Okay, on to the next topic--is that a Boston accent I hear?
get to the point
2:40 ''...and maybe, not have the quality ....''' What he means, is C H I N A......cheap steel, cheap plastic, cheap rubber....everything. crap