Shortest Scientist vs Creationist debate ever.

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2012
  • A geologist and an Irish creationist debate atop of the Grand Canyon.
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  • @AW-sx8hm
    @AW-sx8hm 2 года назад +14295

    I think this is actually a really tall scientist. He's not standing on the edge of the canyon, he's standing on the bottom.

    • @js_musicmedia8981
      @js_musicmedia8981 2 года назад +75

      Laughed out loud, nice

    • @ianmcelmurry2882
      @ianmcelmurry2882 2 года назад +18

      Underrated comment.

    • @rolls_8798
      @rolls_8798 2 года назад +40

      explain that, atheists!

    • @favouritemoon4133
      @favouritemoon4133 2 года назад +2

      Have you ever seen 'Father Ted'? He explained it pretty much the same way to Father Dougal [ff to about 35 secs if you're short of time] ruclips.net/video/GFTgkibl7DU/видео.html

    • @ratshy2359
      @ratshy2359 2 года назад +14

      People can't even write a video title properly these days

  • @squeaky1963
    @squeaky1963 2 года назад +11325

    My God.
    Imagine if the tallest scientist and creationist had a debate

  • @davidhoffman6980
    @davidhoffman6980 9 месяцев назад +5399

    Creationist: "You're assuming uniformitarianism."
    Me: "Should I assume the laws of physics change every now and then?"

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 2 месяца назад +22

      Evolution seems to go against the 2nd law of thermal dynamics.
      Real science should always be questioned and tested.
      It's never set in stone.

    • @davidhoffman6980
      @davidhoffman6980 2 месяца назад +267

      @@elguapo2831 what is the law of thermodynamics?

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 2 месяца назад +68

      @@davidhoffman6980 Second law of thermodynamics is a problem for evolution because the law stipulates that entropy always increases, whereas evolution into complex beings constitutes a decrease in entropy.

    • @davidhoffman6980
      @davidhoffman6980 2 месяца назад +873

      @@elguapo2831 so when you said "the law of thermodynamics" you actually meant the second law. Unfortunately you're not only wrong about what the second law of thermodynamics says, you're also wrong about its application. The second law describes entropy in a closed system. The earth is not a closed system; it constantly receives energy from the sun. The Change in allele frequencies over time doesn't go against the second law of thermodynamics any more than the population increasing, you cleaning your room, or us building cities.

    • @elguapo2831
      @elguapo2831 2 месяца назад +24

      @iadatoroboto8427 You give them eyes yet they cannot see.
      Funny how the answers are staring everyone in their faces and they can't see it.
      Remember the story of the pea in the mattress?
      Now look at the canyon walls.
      6,000 feet of flat strata layers, not including another 2,000 feet on the Grand Staircase.
      Each layer supposedly took millions of years to form, but there are no valleys, hills, roots, burrows, or a pea in-between them.

  • @counterculture10
    @counterculture10 Год назад +2210

    "Oh, I read them. I don't count them as scientists."
    "Ah, OK!"
    Crickets.

    • @mnn1265
      @mnn1265 Месяц назад +53

      Crickets is the sound inside the head of someone so stubborn that they can't see the obvious flaws of creationism... that's crickets.

    • @TheLeastNegativeBasedWokie
      @TheLeastNegativeBasedWokie Месяц назад +28

      ​@@mnn1265You interrupted the sound of nature to make such a silly comment? God forgive you.

    • @mnn1265
      @mnn1265 Месяц назад +34

      @@TheLeastNegativeBasedWokie Which god? There are so many to choose from.

    • @DanteSimoncini
      @DanteSimoncini Месяц назад +12

      ​@@mnn1265 Only one lived on Earth.

    • @mnn1265
      @mnn1265 Месяц назад +34

      @@DanteSimoncini OH, so Zeus! Oh, wait, Mohammad? Could be Isis? Hmmm, again so many to choose from.

  • @arkay238
    @arkay238 4 года назад +14435

    I was at the Grand Canyon last may. They’re still just standing there.

    • @ThermaL-ty7bw
      @ThermaL-ty7bw 3 года назад +31

      you didn't see jesus moving some dirt around then ?
      or his daddy , laying down dinosaur bones everywhere ?
      or was that Mr. Satan , i can't keep up with all the nonsense these religious people throw out in to the world ...
      should stop watching these clips and videos , cause they piss me the F off , just can't help myself
      ignorant hopeless people , that couldn't tie their own freaking shoes , if it wasn't written down as a decree in that horrible atrocious immoral ''book'' they call the bible ...
      absolute idiots with no life to speak off
      LIFE is the ''guide TO life'' , not some antiquated pieces of parchment with stories older then 11.000+ years , that have absolutely nothing to do with people of this day and age ...
      but they just keep on pushing their views on the world and tell you ... you're going to hell ...
      f*ck em ... and f*ck their ''god''
      that guy is a pervert and a predator in MY book , nothing else

    • @ikhuemoseokojie911
      @ikhuemoseokojie911 3 года назад +20

      @@ThermaL-ty7bw Bruh I'm not going to defend the Bible cause your mind is already closed. All I'm going to say is that the Bible has everything to do with the day and age. Just like the constitution tells us how to live out our lives so does the Bible.
      Because the truth isn't subjective it's objective

    • @billibilliyou
      @billibilliyou 3 года назад +119

      @@ikhuemoseokojie911 people forget all the atrocities that have been done in the name of religion and of trying to force one's beliefs onto others; colonialism, conversion therapy for homosexuals, the complete destruction of cultures, major wars and maybe bllions of deaths all throughout history, the loss of identity and free thought for many individuals. Organized thought keeps people seperate and stop us from actually finding common ground. Religion tells one truth and conceals many others.I left Christianity after the first 20 years of my life and never looked back.

    • @AndrewVasirov
      @AndrewVasirov 3 года назад +11

      I am sure there will be statues depicting this impressive memorable event there.

    • @MTG776
      @MTG776 3 года назад +10

      Haha, that made me really laugh loud...

  • @SenthilKumar-qq5te
    @SenthilKumar-qq5te 3 года назад +10857

    "Shortest Scientist vs Creationist debate ever."
    Disappointing, I was expecting a 2 or 3 foot tall Scientist.

    • @liondoor4554
      @liondoor4554 3 года назад +11

      😆😂🤣

    • @01Sunshine234
      @01Sunshine234 3 года назад +68

      What were you expecting they'd drag a leprechaun out of the woods to give a Harvard education?

    • @nomadsteve5297
      @nomadsteve5297 3 года назад +5

      And that is exactly what you got

    • @Jo__o
      @Jo__o 3 года назад +7

      You, my man, made my day.

    • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsa9058
      @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsa9058 3 года назад +7

      @@01Sunshine234 Exactly. This guy gets it.

  • @joshuahoover6841
    @joshuahoover6841 2 года назад +4624

    I'm smacking myself in the head for how long it took me to get why everybody's talking about the geologists height.

    • @opabinnier
      @opabinnier 2 года назад +32

      Hi. Me too! I guess some folk like us are just s bit more serene. Nice to meet ya!

    • @redcandi01
      @redcandi01 2 года назад +50

      I'm confused, can you explain🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @joshuahoover6841
      @joshuahoover6841 2 года назад +442

      @@redcandi01 the name of the clip is "the shortest scientist versus creationist debate ever." If you take it literally, it means the shortest scientist versus a creationist debate.
      I read it as how it was supposed to be and then started reading the comments, LOL and wondered what the heck I was missing 😂

    • @redcandi01
      @redcandi01 2 года назад +13

      @@joshuahoover6841 oooooooooo hahahaha 😅👍🏽 ...thanks 💁🏾‍♀️😂

    • @natetronn
      @natetronn 2 года назад +11

      Don't be so short with yourself.

  • @deebugger
    @deebugger Месяц назад +205

    I met a microbiologist today, he was much larger than I expected..

  • @nicholasmcadams8041
    @nicholasmcadams8041 5 лет назад +8148

    Thats a bold statement to say to a creationist when your standing near the edge of the Grand Canyon

    • @annvik3772
      @annvik3772 4 года назад +40

      😂😂😂

    • @stephanesmith9391
      @stephanesmith9391 4 года назад +21

      Like a boss👍!

    • @bencrawshaw1227
      @bencrawshaw1227 4 года назад +145

      Yeah I reckon they can be potentially dangerous.

    • @David-se5ph
      @David-se5ph 4 года назад +3

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sen7826
      @sen7826 4 года назад +81

      We never did see what happened next

  • @somedonkus5215
    @somedonkus5215 5 лет назад +7250

    We can agree, however, that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

    • @aaronmtzs1
      @aaronmtzs1 5 лет назад +31

      I don't know but I have the feeling that you like it's ok to be smart

    • @corniel657
      @corniel657 5 лет назад +10

      Damn straight

    • @GHOSTDOG637
      @GHOSTDOG637 5 лет назад +44

      ATP baby!

    • @chuck7048
      @chuck7048 5 лет назад +28

      I remember my Bio teacher saying that that’s not specific enough so F’s all around

    • @joelr1112
      @joelr1112 5 лет назад +22

      Is mitochondria a dinosaur that wrote the bible?

  • @Trini84818
    @Trini84818 2 месяца назад +1263

    What will change your mind?
    Ken Ham: “Nothing.”
    Bill Nye: “Evidence.”

    • @Kuhtlass
      @Kuhtlass Месяц назад +55

      Ken Ham has his answer.
      Bill Nye is still looking.

    • @titush.3195
      @titush.3195 Месяц назад +275

      @@Kuhtlass It's better to forever search for the truth than to start believing in a lie

    • @elduderino007
      @elduderino007 Месяц назад +72

      @@Kuhtlass Ken Ham - "Banana's are designed to fit the hand."
      Bill Nye - "Miss me with that shit."

    • @prominentmagpie7153
      @prominentmagpie7153 Месяц назад

      bill nye is an idiot who admitted evolution is a belief

    • @cookiecracker2
      @cookiecracker2 Месяц назад +7

      Don't know where you got that from, ken ham is very factual.

  • @Oysters176
    @Oysters176 2 месяца назад +450

    It is hard to win an argument with a tall person, but it's impossible to win an argument against a short person, they will just bring you down to their height and beat you with their experience.

    • @hiq7137
      @hiq7137 2 месяца назад +14

      This made me chuckle

    • @Oysters176
      @Oysters176 2 месяца назад +1

      @@hiq7137 How did you see that comment on the other chat?

    • @hiq7137
      @hiq7137 2 месяца назад

      @@Oysters176 it’s the notification

    • @diegoserrano6331
      @diegoserrano6331 Месяц назад +1

      Underrated comment

    • @Shannara360
      @Shannara360 Месяц назад +3

      As a short person, he's right. Check mate, tallists.

  • @kristofgriffin384
    @kristofgriffin384 3 года назад +10524

    "No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain.

    • @yaruqadishi8326
      @yaruqadishi8326 3 года назад +29

      Ditto

    • @src3360
      @src3360 3 года назад +195

      In the words of a creationist.... Amen 🙏🏻🤣

    • @bubbie3533
      @bubbie3533 3 года назад +77

      Me scrolling through the comments looking for someone to quote Mark Twain. BRUTAL!!!! 😂😂😂😂

    • @reisekeller6859
      @reisekeller6859 3 года назад +38

      I LOVE that quote! Mark Twain is still my favorite author.

    • @thereaction18
      @thereaction18 3 года назад +65

      The geologist must be an idiot. Why should he waste his time considering evidence from people he disagrees with when it's so easy to just casually dismiss them categorically like a complete bigot, since evidence will never convince him anyway?

  • @ffxiisucks
    @ffxiisucks 7 лет назад +3752

    Where's the short scientist?

    • @razuki111
      @razuki111 7 лет назад +13

      Bravo.

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W 7 лет назад +37

      Where's also the creationist debate?

    • @dylanmorgan2752
      @dylanmorgan2752 7 лет назад +2

      +Agent1W I know we all wanted to see that spicy creationist comeback where he just straight roasts the guy for a full hour with his Tai Lopez knowledge of the world and ability to spew facts it would've been real. But I see these so called scientists refuse to show it, maybe they have something to hide, unlike the mighty Lord Jesus who saved us all from dying for our sins, papa bless and don't subscrab to such a biased channel.

    • @baqcasanke
      @baqcasanke 7 лет назад +1

      dylan morgan your an idiot. But i like it!

    • @simmonslucas
      @simmonslucas 7 лет назад +18

      he looked regular sized to me too

  • @jic1
    @jic1 2 месяца назад +137

    This is actually probably the best scientist vs creationist debate ever, because it acknowledges the fundamental problem: if you can't even agree on basic premises, you can't actually have a debate to start with. At best, you just talk at each other forever, with neither side conceding any significant points to the other, and both declaring victory at the end.

    • @pepsusser
      @pepsusser Месяц назад +15

      This is why almost every debate we see is pointless. People pretend to be debating while they cant even agree on basic initial definitions that would be required to make proper arguments.

    • @Toastybees
      @Toastybees 29 дней назад +17

      Which is why the scientific method exists to begin with. If the person you are arguing with can't even acknowledge objective, observable, reproducable evidence they are no more worth talking to than a farm animal.

    • @onionsans
      @onionsans 13 часов назад

      ​@@ToastybeesAnd if they can't think outside the box of naturalism they're not worth taking to either

  • @PhilMante
    @PhilMante 2 года назад +1881

    "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's impossible to win an argument against a stupid person."
    Edit: And the next thing you know, shitloads of comments

    • @tempsitch5632
      @tempsitch5632 2 года назад +150

      Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

    • @ezekielanderson9055
      @ezekielanderson9055 2 года назад +9

      Yeah, it's so hard to win an argument with someone who things they can from a dot of nothing exploding. And someone who thinks life somehow magically came from rock soup. And who think all life is magically related. So stupid. Oh wait, that's most scientists. Such idiots 🙄

    • @stadtbekanntertunichtgut
      @stadtbekanntertunichtgut 2 года назад +1

      But were can I learn stoopid????

    • @ezekielanderson9055
      @ezekielanderson9055 2 года назад +8

      @@stadtbekanntertunichtgut From evolutionists

    • @stadtbekanntertunichtgut
      @stadtbekanntertunichtgut 2 года назад +2

      @@ezekielanderson9055 I'm bad at reading and easy impresed will that be a problem?

  • @jjmachtej3387
    @jjmachtej3387 3 года назад +1669

    Him today in the shower “damn, I should’ve said...”

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 3 года назад +39

      No there is nothing he should have said, this was perfectly fine. If you have listened to to many creationists you know why, because it hurts, how bad those arguments are.

    • @hlcepeda
      @hlcepeda 3 года назад +31

      ... and while enjoying the hot water made possible by the work of inventors, scientists, and engineers.

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 3 года назад +4

      @Lactose Intolerant Cow I am an atheist lol. I think you thought I said that the scientist arguements would be bad, I meant the creationist ones.

    • @aspitube2515
      @aspitube2515 3 года назад +3

      @@tomwanders6022 according to the Bible Earth already existed and it was only water in it. Soo... yes, BRUH

    • @aspitube2515
      @aspitube2515 3 года назад +5

      @Lactose Intolerant Cow the big bang doesn't explain time and sound, surely there's a God who created those things and dimensions

  • @alexc773
    @alexc773 7 лет назад +6170

    Clicked on this hoping the conversation would end with someone getting thrown into the Grand Canyon.... disappointment.

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien 7 лет назад +9

      the irish twat

    • @tolorolo6573
      @tolorolo6573 7 лет назад

      Average Alien English fucker

    • @apocalypseap
      @apocalypseap 7 лет назад +25

      ***** So do you, so how are you different except that you believe in unsubstantiated bullshit?

    • @apocalypseap
      @apocalypseap 7 лет назад +45

      ***** You should probably seek psychiatric therapy. Persuasion is not a requirement in science. You accept it, or you don't. Science doesn't start with an absurd assumption; it's about looking at the evidence and coming to a logical conclusion based on that evidence, not pre-conceived bullshit.
      You might as well believe in invisible pink unicorns or something. At least you'd be a more creative insane person, then.

    • @apocalypseap
      @apocalypseap 7 лет назад +34

      ***** Let me ask you a question you've probably never thought about: if god exists at all (nevermind your god), what did god make the universe out of? :^)

  • @alanwyatt
    @alanwyatt Год назад +76

    Legend has it that he has maintained a vow of silence until he thinks of a comeback and has still not spoken to this day

  • @ArtypNk
    @ArtypNk 10 месяцев назад +128

    Automotive industry: Well, building a car is quite complex, of course, but in simplest terms, you need an engine, a body, transmission, basic electronics, breaks, and internal furnishings that would let an operator to reside in.
    Me: I reckon you could just use a hamster in a wheel to power the whole thing, and have a jet engine mounted on a front to use as breaks. Make my thing equal to the thing they said, it's just as valid, I am now as qualified as automotive industry because I had an opinion and I reckoned.

    • @Maicon-b1b
      @Maicon-b1b 2 месяца назад +7

      Disassemble a simple computer and put the parts in a dryer
      If they can't put themselves together how do you expect the world to coincidentally be in place including the DNA code
      Exactly
      Not a coincidence,
      God made everything

    • @samuelmarger9031
      @samuelmarger9031 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Maicon-b1b Thank you for the false equivalence, pal. Nobody assembles machines like that, and no scientist or well-equipped nonbeliever posits that biomolecules were formed like that.
      Also, life is a chemical system, and we have a robust understanding of chemistry. The origin of life research has also come far since the Miller-Urey experiment. The abundance of eventually biotic material on prebiotic Earth and the self-replicating nature of DNA (RNA, even, if you go with the RNA world hypothesis) was more than enough as a base from which life sprang.
      You know what we don't have? A robust understanding of God, if he exists at all.
      Arguments from design are convincing at face value but crumble when you scrutinize assumptions and simply admit ignorance. "We don't know," is still a million times more honest than "It must have been God," when God hasn't even been established as a possibility. If I may borrow your line of argument, we have always observed mind as a product of matter, but never a disembodied mind or a anything that resembles a spirit, on which the God assumption often relies on.
      I know it is a clichéd question that is often mocked among the believers' group, but if complex things must be created intentionally, who created God, given his all-powerful nature and alike? If your answer requires exempting God from the premise that complex things need a creator, then you have my answer. I do not accept that complexity implies intentional creation. I do not buy your argument from incredulity.
      Argue the possibility of God, if you must. Just know that even if I don't know everything, it increases not at all the chance that God exists or do anything.
      Unless you need to presuppose God before doing anything, of course, since then it's best that we don't talk.

    • @NucularRobit
      @NucularRobit 2 месяца назад +29

      I can't tell if you're being facetious but: life is not like random parts falling together. That's called "clockmaker" and there are plenty of videos on why it's fallacious. The short version is life has pressure put upon it over time and slowly shapes into what it is. DNA didn't bang together and spring forth a fully formed human like your analogy.

    • @mkaleborn
      @mkaleborn Месяц назад +20

      @@NucularRobit Very good! You could also say that a weathered stone has an an extremely particular shape and arrangement of it's atoms to produce that *exact* stone. Whose to say that it's 'arrangement' of atoms is more 'complicated' then the atoms of a watch?
      It would still require nothing short of a miracle to get those atoms positioned in exactly that fashion to produce exactly that object. God? Of course not, just pressure...and time.
      Life is like that too. And we can see the imperfections and weird genetic 'baggage' of our early ancestors littered throughout our genome. Why would god leave genetic 'baggage' and imperfections in any life form's DNA?

    • @AxolotlInMC
      @AxolotlInMC Месяц назад

      ​@@Maicon-b1b The worst thing? I'm not even sure if you're being serious. Just to be safe; that is nonsense

  • @danemiller4852
    @danemiller4852 3 года назад +3799

    This may be one of the funniest moments in grand canyon history

    • @huskydogg7536
      @huskydogg7536 3 года назад +28

      top 10 at least

    • @ZringMalti
      @ZringMalti 3 года назад +30

      All 5-6 million years of its history!

    • @Cybernaut551
      @Cybernaut551 3 года назад

      @@ZringMalti Correctly stated.

    • @Chipotleadvisory
      @Chipotleadvisory 3 года назад +34

      In the video if you listen closely you can actually here the Canyon laughing at the creationist.

    • @j.dragon651
      @j.dragon651 3 года назад +3

      you weren't there when I took my wife there.

  • @albertnielsen1154
    @albertnielsen1154 5 лет назад +6962

    Surprise! Surprise! If you don't use scientific methods, you aren't a scientist.

    • @anoopashok4613
      @anoopashok4613 5 лет назад +32

      ur right

    • @Graeme_Lastname
      @Graeme_Lastname 4 года назад +258

      And if you're not a moron then you're not a creationist. ;)

    • @tjseries3057
      @tjseries3057 4 года назад +67

      @@Graeme_Lastname horrible joke

    • @justashark776
      @justashark776 4 года назад +16

      Who would've guessed.

    • @Graeme_Lastname
      @Graeme_Lastname 4 года назад +202

      @@tjseries3057 Yes indeed. Totally horrible. Unfortunately, not a joke, just a fact. ;)

  • @johno9507
    @johno9507 28 дней назад +22

    At age 15 my father tried to tell me the earth was 6000 years old.
    I burst out laughing...he never mentioned it again. 😂

    • @timothyvenable3336
      @timothyvenable3336 27 дней назад +1

      He didn’t even give you a reason? Lol

    • @ExtremeBirding
      @ExtremeBirding 20 дней назад +1

      Proving the idea that most 15 year olds are dumbasses

    • @BK-hq7tn
      @BK-hq7tn 15 дней назад +1

      That's a sad story.

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 10 дней назад

      It’s at least a good 15,000. Most people don’t realize that there were cities by the time Cain killed Able, or that Adam and Eve were not just two people.

    • @timothyvenable3336
      @timothyvenable3336 10 дней назад

      @@matthew8153 wait really? How do you come to that conclusion?

  • @infidelheretic923
    @infidelheretic923 2 месяца назад +180

    "But but, many scientists believe the earth is only 6,000 years old."
    "Sorry I meant REAL scientists."

    • @charles21137
      @charles21137 Месяц назад +20

      That’s the “no true Scotsman fallacy”, you’re basically saying “they aren’t true scientist because they don’t agree with me”. I’m personally not a young earth creationist, but this is objectively stupid.

    • @oliverjkulig7373
      @oliverjkulig7373 Месяц назад +36

      ​@@charles21137
      Real scientists are scientists who listen to science.
      Creationists listen to a particular interpretation of a millennia old text and make it dogma.
      Creationists aren't real scientists.

    • @charles21137
      @charles21137 Месяц назад +6

      @@oliverjkulig7373 fair enough, but I would rather them actually look at the claims that creationist with degrees in science make and disprove it with science, then go “you make a claim I disagree with, thus false”

    • @drak1559
      @drak1559 Месяц назад

      ​@@oliverjkulig7373 You are aware that there is no such thing as listening to science right? Science isnt some magical beam that sends information to anyone with a bachelors in physics. The very basic purpose of scientific knowledge is for it to be challenged and either rewritten or reaffirmed based on analytical, experimental and observational data. And considering there is no physical way for us to test certain things there is plenty of things in scientific fields open to interpretation and theory, many of which would very much be wrong. This stupid "bElIeVe tHe SciEncE dOod" is just as ignorant and annoying as creationism "because bible said so".

    • @NightWing1800
      @NightWing1800 Месяц назад

      @@charles21137 Thats not how science works. Science is that everything is wrong until you test it and record the data and how you got it and loads of people replicate it. So a creationist would need some scientific evidence that they cant have because theres no test they can make. We do have tests that show the Earth is millions of years old though, so anyone saying the contrary, a scientist can just say "Thats wrong."

  • @Greencarnation1000
    @Greencarnation1000 7 лет назад +1936

    I misread this. I was expecting a midget scientist. I'm disappointed.

  • @mrloop1530
    @mrloop1530 5 лет назад +4751

    I don't know. Therefore God.
    End of discussion.

    • @konnosx1213
      @konnosx1213 5 лет назад +416

      Creationist: Sea is wet... Bible said sea is wet.. Therefore God
      Creationist: Birds fly.. Therefore God
      Creationist: My dog... Therefore God
      Creationist: Science... Therefore Satan

    • @konnosx1213
      @konnosx1213 5 лет назад +68

      @Patrick McCarthy This comment... Therefore God

    • @youngblocka8128
      @youngblocka8128 5 лет назад +20

      God hides in the cracks in the monolith of scientific understanding

    • @JohnKobaRuddy
      @JohnKobaRuddy 5 лет назад +48

      young BLOCKA is love to believe but whether people like this fact or not the original bible was the Jewish Torah then it was edited then Jesus popped up then it was added to then edited or bits of tablets went missing then king James had his own version that’s used today. In what way can that possibly be the word of god, an edited abridged directories cut with added bonus scenes?!

    • @chimpanzeethat3802
      @chimpanzeethat3802 5 лет назад +62

      God can't be detected or demonstrated to exist. Making claims about how you think that God invented science is a completely baseless assertion.

  • @SonOfMeme
    @SonOfMeme 2 года назад +151

    I like that a significant amount of people, me included, first read the title as "shortest scientist..."

    • @misteraskman3668
      @misteraskman3668 2 года назад +4

      I'm curious, what were you expecting when you clicked on the video?

    • @bruceneu8588
      @bruceneu8588 Месяц назад

      @@misteraskman3668 I would imagine it would be a scientist who was a midget.

    • @VinnieG-
      @VinnieG- Месяц назад +1

      @@misteraskman3668 a scientist who was 4 feet tall

  • @dited358
    @dited358 18 дней назад +2

    Gotta love when they act like what they subjectively "count as valid" affects the debate in any way.

    • @AMC2283
      @AMC2283 18 дней назад +3

      The scientific method isn’t subjective, and the age of earth isn’t determined in the debate club, only the lab-and definitely not at your church

  • @A82B
    @A82B 5 лет назад +523

    They haven’t moved from that spot to this very day.

    • @terra_727
      @terra_727 5 лет назад +12

      The world's longest awkward silence moment. Guinness confirmed 👍

    • @LadyOfTheEdits
      @LadyOfTheEdits 4 года назад

      Wow XD 😂😂

    • @timestamp2525
      @timestamp2525 4 года назад +2

      Are they still there? Their legs must hurt

    • @whitebloodcell9158
      @whitebloodcell9158 2 года назад +1

      They still there

  • @Szkarad156
    @Szkarad156 7 лет назад +1935

    That scientinst doesn't seem to be that short. I'm sure there are shorter scientists than him.

  • @michaeltrivette1728
    @michaeltrivette1728 Месяц назад +43

    The Bible was written by people who didn't know where the Sun went at night.

    • @AMC2283
      @AMC2283 Месяц назад +9

      and i'd like to think they'd be embarrassed by descendants who ignored millennia of progress, to cling to some story they made up, just to stop people from asking questions they didn't know the answer to

    • @TC-be7kx
      @TC-be7kx Месяц назад

      well where do baby's come from, tell me.

    • @BaconMaken
      @BaconMaken Месяц назад +4

      ​@@TC-be7kxSperm plus egg. Cook for 9 months.

    • @The_GreenHub
      @The_GreenHub Месяц назад

      @@TC-be7kx Sexual intercourse

    • @mobbarley1102
      @mobbarley1102 29 дней назад +5

      Praying for y’all

  • @zoevalentiae2391
    @zoevalentiae2391 7 лет назад +4109

    I feel like I've been watching this at 0.00001x speed for the past 20 years

    • @TheCopelandr
      @TheCopelandr 7 лет назад +70

      I totally know what you mean.

    • @apsarator
      @apsarator 7 лет назад +54

      nice way of putting it :)

    • @agent-sz2qj
      @agent-sz2qj 7 лет назад +11

      i don't get it

    • @TheAwkwardGuy
      @TheAwkwardGuy 7 лет назад +37

      he's saying that this 1 video showed all the other videos he has seen in a very short amount of time.
      aka - the past videos he saw were like....20 min/1hour long debates, while this one took less than a minute.

    • @TheAwkwardGuy
      @TheAwkwardGuy 7 лет назад +4

      Uh...not long at all...?
      What does that have to do with what I'm saying?

  • @kuraibaka9771
    @kuraibaka9771 5 лет назад +1034

    I don't know why I thought reading this comment section would be a good idea.

    • @Horny_Fruit_Flies
      @Horny_Fruit_Flies 5 лет назад +72

      Why not. I'm having a very good time down here.

    • @simanolastname2399
      @simanolastname2399 5 лет назад +26

      Not sure if it was a good or a bad idea.
      Either way I’m kinda enjoying it.

    • @ronaldolson6553
      @ronaldolson6553 4 года назад +22

      Well, we all enjoy a good train wreck don't we?

    • @spac18
      @spac18 4 года назад +10

      Because you like to read people expressing their stupid opinions

    • @ElZamo92
      @ElZamo92 4 года назад +7

      Funniest shit I’ve ever seen.

  • @WokerThanThou
    @WokerThanThou 2 года назад +501

    Creationist: _Have you read any creationist literature?_
    Scientist: _Yes._
    Scientist: _Have you read any science literature?_
    Creationist: 😶

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 2 года назад +17

      "Did you read anything in the past years?"
      "Ah, right. Ok."

    • @WokerThanThou
      @WokerThanThou 2 года назад +8

      @Joseph Krystek-Walton *"I am told ..."* 🙄

    • @michaeljameson6468
      @michaeljameson6468 2 года назад

      @Joseph Krystek-Walton It’s because you’re an intellectual moron. Go back and read your fairytale book.

    • @namesurname9833
      @namesurname9833 Год назад +7

      Okay but have YOU ever read any creationist literature?

    • @TrevoltIV
      @TrevoltIV Год назад +5

      Of course they have, they just don't agree with the origins science part of it because it's completely biased.

  • @codeblaze3
    @codeblaze3 Месяц назад +4

    I like how they both listened to each other and tried to understand each others beliefs and the justifications thereof.

  • @Tezorus
    @Tezorus 3 года назад +2209

    Scientist :
    - Take a rock and some water.
    - Observe how many time it takes for half a milimeter to be eroded.
    - Use math to calculate the aproximatif age of the grand cayon based on actual observations of nature.
    Creationist :
    - "Wait, is he allowed to do that ?''

    • @ImperialMasterRace
      @ImperialMasterRace 3 года назад +123

      I think they observed the rock at the grand canyon THAT IS STILL ERODING lmao

    • @Tezorus
      @Tezorus 3 года назад +31

      @@ImperialMasterRace yeah, even simplier 😄

    • @RobertLoeder
      @RobertLoeder 2 года назад +45

      Then try the same experiment with muddy sediment to simulate the runoff after a flood.

    • @carportshenanigans5918
      @carportshenanigans5918 2 года назад +28

      @Robert Loeder no, no, no, you have to ignore the possibility of any cataclysmic events and ASSUME that the processes observed present day is how it happened from the beginning of time and forever after. There is a surprising amount of willful ignorance in the belief of a 14B year old cosmic oopsie-daisy.

    • @heznz4586
      @heznz4586 2 года назад +173

      @@carportshenanigans5918 you can tell the difference between a cataclysmic event and a slow process. A flood that lasts a few days leaves different signs than a stream that flows for a thousand years.
      And then there's the nuclear chemistry, which is probably the best way to date things. It isn't that scientists ignore signs, the fact is that the simplest explanation that fits all the evidence is an old universe and an old earth.

  • @recursiveslacker7730
    @recursiveslacker7730 3 года назад +2001

    “Have you heard what the creationists have to say?”
    “Yeah but I said scientists tho”

    • @tyrionlannister9273
      @tyrionlannister9273 3 года назад +4

      🤣🤬😂😆🤭✅🖖

    • @65firered
      @65firered 3 года назад +7

      *Stare*

    • @tyrionlannister9273
      @tyrionlannister9273 3 года назад +64

      @@cloudycrisps7290
      You are aware that the mechanism of " creation science " is magic/incantations.
      Being that it was spoken, that makes it just that.
      But there's a problem with that.
      There was no air before this act.
      Nor did the non-corporeal entity have a mouth from which to speak.
      No vocal chords or lungs.
      None of the things needed for speech was in place before the incantation was used.
      So, how did that work? More magic?
      Creation was also put up against evolutionary processes in court.
      The ruling is why evolution is taught in schools and creation isn't, accept those schools that indoctrinates children into the cult before they can think for themselves.
      Calling it science doesn't make it science.
      And if this religious crap was real there wouldn't be any need for apologist's. There would be no holes or slack to pull it it were real and not mere fantasy.
      Creation Science, what a laugh.

    • @cloudycrisps7290
      @cloudycrisps7290 3 года назад +13

      @@tyrionlannister9273 okay, First of the Bible said humanity was made in Gods own image therefore it can be assumed that they have a mouth. Second, Just because a court has a certain ruling does not make it true or the best. Other wise explain why innocent people are convicted and guilty are set free. What may seem right is not always the case. And finally Evolution also has apologists, people who keep finding evidence and using it to support their views. However I do agree that calling something science does not make it science, so tell me, if evolution is classified as a theory why do we teach it as scientific fact? Just because we can use evidence to point at it? You can do that with the creationist viewpoint as well. Perhaps it would be better if these theories were taught separately from factual science so we can more accurately test them. If creation science really was this laugh as you say, then surely you have all the answers to make this belief obsolete? Explain to me them how life could arise from non living Matter and then proceed to never do it again on this planet. Explain the origins of human morality, of Logic, explain consciousness. The Truth is neither of us have all the answers therefore neither side should be taken as more than an opinion with a spew of evidence at the table trying to make it all fit. It is also impossible to simply take information and just “find the results” because there will always be bias. A creationist will use it to point to God and a non-creationist will use it to point towards Not God. Just finding evidence is not what you are doing at all. Everyone is DELIBERATELY using the evidence to support their view.

    • @tyrionlannister9273
      @tyrionlannister9273 3 года назад +56

      @@cloudycrisps7290
      Evidence points only one way.
      Evolution doesn't have apologist's.
      And the Torah, the old testament, doesn't say that man was made in the image of god.
      It says that humans were re-created in the image of the gods, Elohim is a pluralism and also includes female.
      And it also says that Jehovah sits in the seat of judge amongst the gods.
      So the text clearly states a plurality.
      And about this assumption.
      Why would a being living in null space, devoid of everything have need of a mouth?
      There's nothing to eat, nothing to speak upon because sound travels on the particles of gas in waves to the ear that has bones in it that rattle and send the signals to the brain to be deciphered...
      The people that wrote the religious texts literally knew nothing and assumed everything. That's why it's rife with inconsistentancies and nonsensical ideas.
      Plants were created before the sun.
      The sun and moon exist inside of the dome above the flat earth and are the same size.
      There's water outside the dome.
      Snakes and donkey talk.
      Eating fruit is a crime that humans are guilty of even though they didn't even eat the fruit themselves.
      Then later, god takes human form. To be a sacrifice of itself to itself to appease itself for rules it made up in the first place. From a scenario it made.
      It also placed the talking snake in the garden.
      What kind of idiot thinks this makes sense?
      You do.

  • @trashdragon6289
    @trashdragon6289 Месяц назад +11

    "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's impossible to win an argument against a really really short person."

  • @mesteme
    @mesteme Месяц назад +7

    Intresting, I don't understand though the need to bodyshame the guy, even little people can science.

    • @therick363
      @therick363 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah when someone goes right to someone’s physical characteristics it tells me what I need to know

    • @a_randomuser4
      @a_randomuser4 Месяц назад

      As in short. He meant “this is the shortest argument.”

  • @Michaelsmith-kw4zp
    @Michaelsmith-kw4zp 8 лет назад +2261

    this is how long every "debate" with a creationist should last.

    • @josecanusee218
      @josecanusee218 8 лет назад +26

      +Michael smith Yes, because we should silence all theories and notions that don't agree with our own. That's how we grow and learn. Acting like know it all pricks.

    • @Michaelsmith-kw4zp
      @Michaelsmith-kw4zp 8 лет назад +92

      Jose Canusee when your right your right, no amount of debate will change the facts that religious nonsense has not been right on one scientific matter, or has met the burden of proof that is required for such extraordinary claims.

    • @josecanusee218
      @josecanusee218 8 лет назад +8

      +Michael smith Well let's focus on this issue which I assume you are in agreement is the age of Earth. Let me re-post a comment I made on this video in hopes to get my point across. Forgive the laziness but I just don't feel like typing it all again." Is time not relative to the universal laws that the universe is expanding and speeding up? Therefore, as we exist and record our experience on the timeline, does our concept of time and it's relationship with history speed up? Meaning, A recorded year to man's concept of time 1 million years ago would be longer than it would in the current day. I am so amazed that scientist and the vast majority of the so called "intellectual" community are still theorizing time as a linear concept when it has been proven that it is cyclical in nature. My point is when someone says the Earth is thousands of years old or Millions of years old, they are both right and both wrong. The funniest part is we can only begin to imagine these things so instead of acting like we have all the answers, maybe we should stop being so arrogant and learn from one another." I mean even Albert Einstein considered his theories just that, theories. Sure, some are more predominantly rooted in fact and obvious as others are open to interpretation. Regardless of this, the reality is nobody knows without a shadow of a doubt anything so to silence debate and shun or criticize others for having opposing views is not only wrong but dangerous. I suggest you do some research on who is in charge of determining what scientific theories are considered facts throughout history and the damage that has done to the masses those theories were meant to use for control. I'm not saying your right, or I'm wrong, that's the point, we don't know. I'm not even a "creationist" as I think labeling oneself only puts yourself into a box were ideas and realizations go to die.

    • @Michaelsmith-kw4zp
      @Michaelsmith-kw4zp 8 лет назад +74

      Jose Canusee I disagree on nearly everything you say.
      A scientific theory is not just a theory, but the excepted explanation for a phenomenon, so I doubt very much that Einstein said that.
      Nobody claims to have all the answers, but religion has none, science gives us a good basis to work from.
      I will mock and shun any nonsense that religious indoctrination and brainwashing has claimed is true.

    • @josecanusee218
      @josecanusee218 8 лет назад +11

      +Michael smith Then why is it called a theory? I mean how much more could you contradict yourself? So as far as your bogus definition of what theory means, how about we use the actual definition. the·o·ry
      ˈTHēərē/
      noun
      a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
      Let me give you the definition for what a supposition is before you make up another meaning for that as well.
      sup·po·si·tion
      ˌsəpəˈziSH(ə)n/
      noun
      an uncertain belief.
      So, I find it rather amusing that someone who is so certain of the how the mysteries of science and the universe work can't even grasp the reality of what simple definitions of words in the English language mean. UNCERTAIN, do you know what that means? As for Albert Einstein, I believe these quotes should solidify my argument "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
      "We know nothing at all. All our knowledge is but the knowledge of schoolchildren. The real nature of things we shall never know." "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.". Lastly, as far as being indoctrinated and brainwashed, what do you think is happened to our youth as we speak with the new religion man is dominating the poor and underprivileged masses with? Think about that.

  • @rubyhoney6177
    @rubyhoney6177 10 лет назад +588

    “Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.”
    ― Napoleon

    • @Wanderlust1972
      @Wanderlust1972 10 лет назад +10

      Religion is just as much as a deterrent as the death penalty. Its not good.

    • @leonscott543
      @leonscott543 10 лет назад +3

      Good one Napoleon, wait, what does Darwism do again? Oh yea that's right, rich murdering the poor

    • @rubyhoney6177
      @rubyhoney6177 10 лет назад +35

      leon scott what has murdering the poor got to do with Darwin ?

    • @rubyhoney6177
      @rubyhoney6177 10 лет назад +21

      Pork Sword the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform
      It still works great in the USA

    • @leonscott543
      @leonscott543 10 лет назад +5

      Ruby Honey Survival of the fittest. Hitler's actions are very Darwinian . Stalin's actions are very Darwinian. Any situation where people in control are taking advantage of the less fortunate is Darwinian. If you don't understand that, well then you should further investigate Darwinian.

  • @ndowroccus4168
    @ndowroccus4168 Месяц назад +6

    lol creationists have issues with reality. They don’t understand the universe because they “believe” in a book written before iPhones & electricity….
    Btw: the word “belief” shares a definition with “delusion”…

    • @Huskylogic2
      @Huskylogic2 28 дней назад

      I've said this many times in my entire existence.
      No need to believe in something, anything or everything if it was reality. Like why should I believe that the Earth is round if that was the reality? Do I really have to believe that the Sun is hot in order to get its energy? I've had so many debate with this many any other existence so called theism.
      It's pretty pathetic how a text from thousand years ago written by an ooga booga kind of brain (that was modified millionth time by any other low tier brain) have this many impact on this entire planet. How pathetic that could be? It impacts keep getting pushed right above or maybe it will slowly fade away. But I've never doubt the power of human will to willingly live in illusion & delusion that will greatly push it impact even more. Resulting many any other brain getting brainwashed in the washing machine and stuck in the death trap never-ending rabbit hole.
      There is also so many any other word that was completely useless that I hope I won't never ever see them again on the Internet or real life such as soul, spirit, heart, believe, god and so many more. They're just literally non-existent. It gives me brain damage every time I read them.

  • @kerplop
    @kerplop Месяц назад +39

    The sad part is that both of them think they won that argument.

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 Месяц назад +8

      Rational, logical evidence is what WINS every time. And only ONE of them here was using that at all.
      We have ZERO reasons to support a book that PROMOTES SLAVERY:
      Leviticus 25:44-46
      King James Version
      44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
      45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
      46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

    • @mrbrandonbrown7072
      @mrbrandonbrown7072 Месяц назад +7

      @@brianmi40 Yet we support a country that promotes Wage Slavery. GG

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 Месяц назад +1

      @@mrbrandonbrown7072 Would you rather support Russia?
      Learn to separate a COUNTRY from the POLITICIANS you vote for. It's gonna be REALLY IMPORTANT Nov. 5th.

    • @ClayishWall
      @ClayishWall Месяц назад

      @@brianmi40what’s nov 5th?

    • @_thomas1031
      @_thomas1031 Месяц назад

      ​@@brianmi40​ Let's not forget that the slavery in Ancient Isreal is by no means comparable to the brutal slave trade. Evidence? Firstly, it was punishable by death to kidnap a man and sell him, in essence forced slavery, God gave this law Genesis 21:16, it's clear in any online or physical copy of scripture you may read.
      Secondly, one might think how could God institute slavery, that's not caring? Keep in mind that by the time the first books of the Bible were written, mankind had already settled social structures where abusive slavery had taken place. All of the Hebrew scriptures referring to slavery if you read are in the context of God tolerating slavery, under his circumstances though. Evidence? Leviticus 25:39-41, slaves were to be treated as hired workers and would be set free at the seventh year.
      All of this is just to understand what Hebrew scripture set forth, Christians that respect God's word as a whole know that the new covenant made through Christ set principles for people to live without the implementation of slavery Evidence?treat others as equal and treat them in kind Matthew 7:12, also 1st John 5:19. The slavery that you're thinking of is not loving, we certainly agree on that, but the Bible does not promote oppressive slavery now and never did even in Hebrew scripture

  • @twstf8905
    @twstf8905 4 года назад +2886

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
    ---Voltaire 1765

    • @jsmariani4180
      @jsmariani4180 4 года назад +16

      that's not the whole story though. Atrocities have been committed for lots of reasons, like bombing a ww2 factory that happens to be in a highly populated area (collateral damage) or bombing/shelling a city to make way for invading troops.

    • @sunblaze8931
      @sunblaze8931 4 года назад +46

      TWSTF 8 Yes, that’s why I don’t believe in atheism. Such an absurdity has caused many atrocities.

    • @Bubbles99718
      @Bubbles99718 4 года назад +170

      @@sunblaze8931 Atheism is not a belief.
      Best of luck moron

    • @sunblaze8931
      @sunblaze8931 4 года назад +40

      Sean O Atheism is the belief that God does not exist.

    • @Bubbles99718
      @Bubbles99718 4 года назад +127

      @@sunblaze8931 It's an absence of belief in a deity. There's a difference there.
      I know, I know. There there
      Put on a lullaby vid. You'll be much better off

  • @roberteli5235
    @roberteli5235 7 лет назад +1373

    Creationism is not science.

    • @ComradeDragon1957
      @ComradeDragon1957 7 лет назад +58

      Sure it is.
      in their own little messed up world it is...where a guy can be made out of dirt and can pull out his rib and make a woman.
      And if a snake tells you to eat a fruit,don't eat it!For some reason eating that one fruit in the ENTIRE GARDEN will make Earth a hellish place,with starvation,wars,etc etc.

    • @roberteli5235
      @roberteli5235 7 лет назад +5

      TheCommunistDragon51 True. In their crazy imagination. I had hard time believing their bullshit even when I was a child but boy did they make me. I am lucky to no longer be brainwashed Bible thumper.

    • @ComradeDragon1957
      @ComradeDragon1957 7 лет назад +11

      Robert Eli
      Funny enough they say Atheists are just indoctrinated.
      When infact Christians are the ones that do that,as well as many other religious people.
      Take India for example.
      or the Middle east.
      As well my parents ARE CHRISTIAN.
      And funny enough even though I have not gone to church since I was 5-6,(okay I did decide to go out one day 4-3 years ago just to check it out,itwasfuckinghorriblebtw,but then I was just an agnostic,not an Atheist.Now I am)

    • @roberteli5235
      @roberteli5235 7 лет назад +1

      TheCommunistDragon51 So true. For some reason they think that a lack of belief in a claim is somehow a claim in itself.
      And about indoctrination. My entire and school are all Christian. My parents had taught me since I knew how to speak that God and the Bible was true. It sucks.

    • @ComradeDragon1957
      @ComradeDragon1957 7 лет назад +6

      *****
      We can observe it,kinda.
      You like at stars and judge their distances,one light year=one year for it's light to reach you.
      Not only that but Radiometric dating is observable and can be repeated.

  • @michaelbalfour3170
    @michaelbalfour3170 2 года назад +7

    I like to think the "stalemate" it ended on continued for a while, just the two men exchanging awkward looks not saying anything for 10 minutes.

  • @sundareshvenugopal6575
    @sundareshvenugopal6575 15 дней назад +2

    That's a snub. "OOh, I've read them. I don't count them as scientists.".

    • @FlyingSpaghettiJesus
      @FlyingSpaghettiJesus 14 дней назад +4

      Cretardisim isnt a field of science and it’s not supported by any science what so ever, therefore it’s not science.

  • @tefras14
    @tefras14 7 лет назад +837

    That scientist was NOT short. I feel cheated and butthurt

    • @edsongrim5446
      @edsongrim5446 7 лет назад

      tefras14 lmao I thought the same thing

    • @123sheag
      @123sheag 7 лет назад +1

      its funny cause thats what creationists do lol

    • @andylara5085
      @andylara5085 7 лет назад +3

      I think they meant the DURATION of the video, NOT how short the scientist is.

    • @edgepleb8516
      @edgepleb8516 7 лет назад +1

      tefras14 The word ever is at the end by the way.

    • @kanegarvey3188
      @kanegarvey3188 7 лет назад +1

      Andy Lara I think he was JOKING.

  • @jeffreyshane7995
    @jeffreyshane7995 5 лет назад +1602

    Oh, I’ve read them. I don’t count them as scientists. 🖐〽️🎤

    • @briemuss05
      @briemuss05 5 лет назад +28

      Yes that really was a short pathetic argument

    • @mosscoveredthreehandledgra2357
      @mosscoveredthreehandledgra2357 5 лет назад +11

      @@briemuss05 Why?

    • @briemuss05
      @briemuss05 5 лет назад +45

      RandomSnot Because regardless of what this guy believes, the creationists, that he does not count as scientists, studied at the same universities and got their Ph.d, MA’s and BA’s etc. just like the evolutionists did. To say they are not real scientists is to say the universities don’t know what they are on about and just give these degrees out to any old fool. This guys argument was just prejudice and pathetic. The following people are Christian. Try telling them they are not real scientists.
      Professor Andy McIntosh DSc, FIMA, CMath, FEI, CEng, FInstP, MIGEM, FRAeS has lectured and researched in Combustion and Thermodynamics for over 30 years. He is a visiting research professor at the University of Leeds, UK, and an adjunct professor at Mississippi State University, USA. He has published over 195 papers on aerodynamics, thermodynamics, combustion, biomimetics, and the bombardier beetle research, which has led to a patented spray device for applications of this technology to pharmaceuticals, fuel injectors, and fire extinguishers.
      Dr. Georgia Purdom holds a PhD in molecular genetics from The Ohio State University. She formerly served as an assistant and associate professor of biology at Mt. Vernon Nazarene University. Dr. Purdom is the director of Educational Content.
      Professor Stuart Burgess
      Biomimetics, Engineering (UK)
      Professor Burgess has held academic posts at Bristol University, Cambridge University and Liberty University in the USA. At Bristol University he was appointed Head of Department three times between 2004 and 2011. He has worked for the European Space Agency and was the lead designer for the solar array on the world’s largest civilian earth-observation spacecraft (Envisat). He also led the design and testing of the chain drive for the British Olympic Cycling Team who won a record six gold medals at the 2016 Rio Olympics. He was invited to exhibit this work at the Royal Society (National Academy of Sciences) in the UK in 2017 where it received national publicity. He has published over 160 scientific papers on the science of design in engineering and nature.
      Paul Garner is a full-time researcher and lecturer for Biblical Creation Trust. He has an MSc in Geoscience from University College London, where he specialised in palaeobiology. He is a Fellow of the Geological Society of London and a member of several other scientific societies. His first book, The New Creationism: Building Scientific Theories on a Biblical Foundation, was published by Evangelical Press in 2009.
      And my absolute favourite. No one dares to even talk about evolution to this guy because he just destroys every argument they have.
      JAMES M. TOUR, Ph.D. Synthetic chemist.
      T. T. and W. F. Chao Professor of Chemistry
Professor of Computer Science
Professor of Materials Science and NanoEngineering
Rice University
Smalley-Curl Institute and the NanoCarbon Center
      James M. Tour, a synthetic organic chemist, received his Bachelor of Science degree in chemistry from Syracuse University, his Ph.D. in synthetic organic and organometallic chemistry from Purdue University, and postdoctoral training in synthetic organic chemistry at the University of Wisconsin and Stanford University. After spending 11 years on the faculty of the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry at the University of South Carolina, he joined the Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology at Rice University in 1999 where he is presently the T. T. and W. F. Chao Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Computer Science, and Professor of Materials Science and NanoEngineering. Tour’s scientific research areas include nanoelectronics, graphene electronics, silicon oxide electronics, carbon nanovectors for medical applications, green carbon research for enhanced oil recovery and environmentally friendly oil and gas extraction, graphene photovoltaics, carbon supercapacitors, lithium ion batteries, CO2 capture, water splitting to H2 and O2, water purification, carbon nanotube and graphene synthetic modifications, graphene oxide, carbon composites, hydrogen storage on nanoengineered carbon scaffolds, and synthesis of single-molecule nanomachines which includes molecular motors and nanocars. He has also developed strategies for retarding chemical terrorist attacks. For pre-college education, Tour developed the NanoKids concept for K-12 education in nanoscale science, and also Dance Dance Revolution and Guitar Hero science packages for elementary and middle school education: SciRave (www.scirave.org) which later expanded to a Stemscopes-based SciRave. The SciRave program has risen to be the #1 most widely adopted program in Texas to complement science instruction, and it is currently used by over 450 school districts and 40,000 teachers with over 1 million student downloads.
      Tour has over 680 research publications and over 120 patents, with an H-index = 140 and i10 index = 630 with total citations over 94,120 (Google Scholar). He was inducted into the National Academy of Inventors in 2015. Tour was named among “The 50 Most Influential Scientists in the World Today” by TheBestSchools.org in 2014; listed in “The World’s Most Influential Scientific Minds” by Thomson Reuters ScienceWatch.com in 2014; and recipient of the Trotter Prize in “Information, Complexity and Inference” in 2014; and was the Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Hebrew University, June, 2014. Tour was named “Scientist of the Year” by R&D Magazine, 2013.
      And the list goes on and on. All these scientists are Christians.

    • @mosscoveredthreehandledgra2357
      @mosscoveredthreehandledgra2357 5 лет назад +125

      @@briemuss05 Uh huh, so if I press you to show me examples of scientifically peer reviewed papers submitted by any of these people dealing with creationism you will be able to provide them? Don't worry I wont hold you to that we all know what the results will be, nothing!
      Personally I don't care wherever a scientist is Christian or not Kenneth Miller is a Christian but given the fact that he accepts the theory of evolution I somehow suspect that you would consider him to be not a true Scotsman, uh I mean Christian. Interesting how scientists are remembered for their contributions our knowledge of he natural world and not their religious views isn't it.
      As for that James Tour guy, well turns out what you said about him (aside from what's blatant copypasta) is wrong. You pass him off as a great demolisher of evolution when he has simply got reservations even then given that he is a scientist he should know disagreeing with a theory isn't enough. He would have to come up with an alternative.

    • @briemuss05
      @briemuss05 5 лет назад +6

      RandomSnot Dr Stanley A. Mumma, Architectural Engineering
      Dr Ron Neller, fluvial geomorphology
      Prof. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering
      Dr Eric Norman, Biomedical science
      Dr David Oderberg, Philosophy
      Professor Douglas Oliver, Professor of Biology
      Prof. John Oller, Linguistics
      Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology
      Dr Charles Pallaghy, Botany
      Dr Gary E. Parker, Biology, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
      Dr Terry Phipps, Professor of Biology, Cedarville University
      Dr Jules H. Poirier, Aeronautics, Electronics
      Dr Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics
      Dr Graeme Quick, Engineering, former Principle Research Scientist with CSIRO (Australia)
      Dr Dan Reynolds, Organic Chemistry
      Dr Chad Rodekohr, Engineering, Physics
      Dr Jung-Goo Roe, Biology
      Dr David Rodda, PhD, Population Genetics
      Dr David Rosevear, Chemistry
      Dr Marcus Ross, Paleontology
      Dr Ariel A. Roth, Biology
      Dr Ronald G. Samec, Astronomy
      Dr John Sanford, Plant science / genetics
      Dr Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemistry / spectroscopy
      Dr Alicia (Lisa) Schaffner, Associate Professor of Biology, Cedarville University
      Dr Joachim Scheven Paleontology
      Dr Ian Scott, Education
      Dr Saami Shaibani, Forensic Physics
      Dr Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry
      Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science
      Dr Mikhail Shulgin, Physics
      Dr Emil Silvestru, Geology/karstology
      Dr Roger Simpson, Engineering
      Dr Horace D. (‘Skip’) Skipper, Professor Emeritus Soil microbiology, College of Agriculture, Forestry and Life Sciences, Clemson University, SC, USA
      Dr E. Norbert Smith, Zoology
      Dr Andrew Snelling, Geology
      Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science
      Dr Timothy G. Standish, Biology
      Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education
      Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer
      Dr Esther Su, Biochemistry
      Dr Dennis Sullivan, Biology, surgery, chemistry, Professor of Biology, Cedarville University
      Dr Greg Tate, Plant Pathology
      Dr Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering
      Dr Larry Thaete, Molecular and Cellular Biology and Pathobiology
      Dr Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics
      Dr Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics
      Dr Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry
      Dr S.H. ‘Wally’ Tow (Tow Siang Hwa), retired chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of Singapore
      Dr Royal Truman, Organic Chemistry
      Dr Brandon van der Ventel, Nuclear scientist
      Dr Gerald Van Dyke, Ph.D. and Professor Emeritus in Botany, North Carolina State University
      Dr Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science
      Prof. Walter Veith, Zoology
      Dr Joachim Vetter, Biology
      Dr Erich Vorpagel, Biochemistry, Molecular Biology; computational protein function.
      Dr Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineering and Geology
      Dr Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineering
      Dr Keith Wanser, Physics
      Dr Noel Weeks, Ancient Near-East History (also has B.Sc. in Zoology)
      Dr Carl Werner, Biologist
      Dr A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics
      Dr John Whitmore, Geology/Paleontology
      Dr Kurt Wise, Paleontology
      Dr Bryant Wood, Archaeology
      Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics
      Dr Thomas (Tong Y.) Yi, Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
      Dr Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics
      Dr Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology
      Dr Patrick Young, Chemistry and Materials Science
      Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography
      Dr Daiqing Yuan, Theoretical Physics
      Dr Henry Zuill, Biology

  • @whiterabbit75
    @whiterabbit75 Год назад +169

    "Oh, I've read them, I just don't count them as scientists."
    Damn, that's a burn that aloe can't help.

    • @flaming_ice5220
      @flaming_ice5220 11 месяцев назад +25

      At that point, the dude just lost all credibility because he can't even acknowledge another person's point because they don't believe the same thing he did. That kind of sounds like fascism to me.

    • @whiterabbit75
      @whiterabbit75 11 месяцев назад +48

      @@flaming_ice5220 You might have a point if the creationists had a shred of evidence to support their arguments, but as they don't... Also,
      fascism
      1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
      He's not a governmental leader, not a dictator, doesn't have complete power, is not suppressing opposition (though he is mocking it), not regimenting the infrastructure of a nation, not emphasizing nationalism, nor saying anything racist. I don't think you know what that word means. You're just saying words that you think make him look bad.

    • @j-dubb614
      @j-dubb614 10 месяцев назад

      @@flaming_ice5220 Science is evidence based. Your opinion is worthless when not backed up by evidence and experimentation.

    • @franzschubertv2874
      @franzschubertv2874 2 месяца назад

      @@flaming_ice5220 if you don’t use the scientific method, you aren’t a scientist.

    • @OsvaldoBayerista
      @OsvaldoBayerista 2 месяца назад +28

      @@flaming_ice5220 Fascism? lmao. He acknowledge the other person point but that doesn't mean they are scientists. Look it's simple af, a scientist is someone who follow the scientific method, a creationist doesn't follow the scientific method, therefore...

  • @ralphbernhard1757
    @ralphbernhard1757 4 года назад +3411

    I can't believe we're still having these kinds of "debates" in this century...

    • @bullymaguire2061
      @bullymaguire2061 4 года назад +287

      Don't worry. I met a guy who believed Men and Women have a different number of ribs.

    • @professionalbozo4396
      @professionalbozo4396 4 года назад +79

      Suboptimal Constructor ribs are Zionist new world order Kabal propaganda wake up you sheeple

    • @pompeyhater9973
      @pompeyhater9973 4 года назад +31

      Luftwaffe 2 Electric Bogaloo I have awoken

    • @professionalbozo4396
      @professionalbozo4396 4 года назад +16

      Chad Chadington my third eye is open to the spiritual chakra

    • @Cosmic-Spanner
      @Cosmic-Spanner 4 года назад +71

      Certain people worship their own interests and dress them up as devotion to a noble, higher cause.
      We will always have these debates as long as weak-minded, self-obsessed people want to spread their fears and beliefs.

  • @minhcena1681
    @minhcena1681 6 лет назад +2503

    If god isn't real then who tangled my headphones? God: 1 Atheists: 0

    • @liamdye3504
      @liamdye3504 6 лет назад +24

      I hope you're not being serious.

    • @minhcena1681
      @minhcena1681 6 лет назад +299

      Liam Dye
      1985: In 2017 we will have flying cars!
      2017: *reads your comment*

    • @TheHatchet2
      @TheHatchet2 6 лет назад +18

      Liam, don't feed the trolls.

    • @minhcena1681
      @minhcena1681 6 лет назад +92

      :(

    • @reno9821
      @reno9821 6 лет назад +164

      Rob Hatch Because a joke these days can only be a troll wanting attention apparently.

  • @BK-hq7tn
    @BK-hq7tn 15 дней назад +3

    Uniformitarinism in geology refers to strict gradualism, which many modern geologist don't hold to anymore and now accept many catosphism events. The scientist here is wrong to claim that all scientists are uniformiterianism. That doesnt mean creation is right, but the "scientist" is wrong.

    • @AMC2283
      @AMC2283 15 дней назад

      it means the laws of science haven't changed

    • @honestaspie6405
      @honestaspie6405 10 дней назад +1

      ​​You can ignore AMC.

  • @VegasGenxBox
    @VegasGenxBox Месяц назад +19

    There's no such thing as creationists scientists

    • @222ableVelo
      @222ableVelo Месяц назад +7

      Of course there are. Don't be silly. What might really blow your mind is that the modern scientific method was essentially invented (or "created") by creationists.

    • @VegasGenxBox
      @VegasGenxBox Месяц назад +1

      @@222ableVelo go peddle your religinut bullshit to someone less educated.

    • @EBDavis111
      @EBDavis111 29 дней назад +6

      @@222ableVelo No, the scientific method was created when people started rejecting God as an explanation for anything.

    • @redherring777
      @redherring777 28 дней назад +1

      If there are any im sure they arent the brightest people

    • @frostyblade8842
      @frostyblade8842 27 дней назад +1

      Yeah just a little guy called Einstein. I'm not sure if you've heard of him

  • @glitchygear9453
    @glitchygear9453 3 года назад +36

    It's always fun to see a comment section with atheists and creationists endlessly insulting each other with nothing productive happening.

    • @Cipher_Paul
      @Cipher_Paul 2 года назад

      I haven't seen any of those for now

    • @jackdearmitt1328
      @jackdearmitt1328 Год назад +4

      Comment Sections aren’t known for being productive.

  • @onisgagan2481
    @onisgagan2481 3 года назад +404

    Dammit, he had a whole notebook of comebacks but he left it in the motel room...

    • @kpax45
      @kpax45 3 года назад +15

      He had no comeback whatsoever for that line. Checkmate!

    • @monstertrucktennis
      @monstertrucktennis 2 года назад +11

      In the drawer next to the Holy Bible???

  • @mokongthe3856
    @mokongthe3856 2 года назад +4

    If only debates were like this.

  • @johnalexir7634
    @johnalexir7634 2 месяца назад +2

    Lol, so awkward at the end. "Uhh, what do we talk about now"

  • @MrWils25
    @MrWils25 3 года назад +1164

    “Ah right. Okay.” Wins debates every time.

    • @hexagonalawareness3584
      @hexagonalawareness3584 3 года назад +3

      @Tel Aviv How does that make a difference?

    • @apmgold
      @apmgold 3 года назад +4

      Bollocks

    • @brandonden795
      @brandonden795 2 года назад +29

      Check mate athiests

    • @FrowningIke
      @FrowningIke 2 года назад +6

      Or "Oh right yeah" as Father Dougal would say.

    • @kingbadmovie
      @kingbadmovie 2 года назад +2

      @@FrowningIke Okay... for the last time: these toy cows are small. But the ones outside are far away. 😂

  • @NightRunner417
    @NightRunner417 3 года назад +485

    Got a feeling it might take hundreds of millions of years for that guy to cement his comeback into something solid.

    • @readhistory2023
      @readhistory2023 2 года назад +6

      There's a canyon at the base of St Helens that was created in a couple of months that made geologists rethink how long it takes to create of a canyon. He's not ontop of the subject as he thinks he is.

    • @tonycotto7106
      @tonycotto7106 2 года назад +7

      ​@@readhistory2023 Did the geologists think that it could happen in a few days? If not, then the creationist "theory" is still bunk.

    • @redneckhippiefreak
      @redneckhippiefreak 2 года назад +23

      @@readhistory2023 lol Creating a Canyon takes days..Creating the Bedrock and Stratified structure that the Canyon is Comprised of, Takes Millennia. Your critical thinking skills and application of relatable information in support of a perspective, needs improvement.

    • @gunslingergirl2579
      @gunslingergirl2579 2 года назад

      @@redneckhippiefreak Said the "redneckhippiefreak". Hm.

    • @nobleradical2158
      @nobleradical2158 2 года назад +2

      @@gunslingergirl2579 Said the "Gunslinger Girl". Hm.

  • @RobB-vz2vo
    @RobB-vz2vo 2 года назад +24

    I measured him, he was six inches tall when I measured him on my laptop however when I measured him on my desktop screen he had grown to eleven inches! How could that be? I must get together with the great unwashed and come up with an answer and put it into a book.

    • @bjb7587
      @bjb7587 2 года назад +1

      You think that's bad?! Try measuring him on a smart phone in landscape mode. He is surely the shortest!

    • @RobB-vz2vo
      @RobB-vz2vo 2 года назад +2

      @@bjb7587 Luxury! I am going to attempt to measure him on a smart watch this weekend.

    • @bjb7587
      @bjb7587 2 года назад +1

      @@RobB-vz2vo Piker! Image on a micro SD card... measurement using nano technology.
      Worse!! Assembly language image measured with a quantum microscope.

    • @RobB-vz2vo
      @RobB-vz2vo 2 года назад +1

      @@bjb7587 The smart watch is on Rocketman sitting in a Tesla out near Mars. My choice of magnification are my specs.

  • @logicalatheist1065
    @logicalatheist1065 11 месяцев назад +3

    It's just like every debate with creationists

  • @ashtona2404
    @ashtona2404 7 лет назад +254

    You wanna know what makes scientist better than creationist? Their not afraid to admit when they're wrong. as we learn more, previous beliefs and theories change or are proven wrong and scientist are ok with admitting that. Religious ppl refuse to even consider the fact that they might be wrong

    • @commonclayofthenewwest6045
      @commonclayofthenewwest6045 7 лет назад +14

      You wanna know what makes a creationist better than a scientist? We can deal with the horribleness of the world that None of Us can escape. Because at the end of the day, when we see the beauty and perfection of planetary systems, the designs of mother nature, and complexity of the human mind, we know that something that stands the test of time has created all of it, and That Creator is inviting us to be held through all of eternity. (You can say it as unrealistic as Santa, but to me, so is a perfect solar system forming from some Random explosion of Nothingness) To us Creationists, there is an artist for this unknown painting. & I gotta tell ya, on a personal note, as a former atheist, Its more rewarding and joyous to believe this way. It definitely kicks the sh*t out of my old mindset, which to sum up in a sentence, was me cursing a God that I thought I didn't believe in and wanting to leave an earth that I was living on.,. But I guess im just another close-minded dumbass that doesn't think like you. You can call me hopeless, but that would be the most amazing irony of all the ages.

    • @zmanafacation
      @zmanafacation 7 лет назад +31

      +MyThousandYearOldWisdom WillHelpYouGrow im sorry, but all that is the exact opposite of dealing with the horribleness of the world.

    • @ashtona2404
      @ashtona2404 7 лет назад +13

      MyThousandYearOldWisdom WillHelpYouGrow I mean yeah it's nice to believe that we go to a eternal paradise when we die and it's nice to think that there is a creator watching over and us and stuff but when all this claims have little to no evidence to back them up, what's the point.

    • @MegaClaymore123
      @MegaClaymore123 7 лет назад +20

      The difference between a person of science and a person of faith is one values evidence, logic, and truth over desperate hope, and the other doesn't.
      I think when it comes down to it, a creationist is really just someone who can't cope with the idea of an end to consciousness ... Which although I am an atheist, I can understand to some degree. Death is terrifying.
      The way I approach death personally, is with the understanding that we have all been dead for an infinite amount of time before we were born, and we will be dead for an infinite amount of time after we die. Between those two events however, we are privileged to have just under a century of time to connect with people, learn about our universe, and find happiness.
      And I think that is a wonderful gift that I don't intend to waste....

    • @Grokford
      @Grokford 7 лет назад

      Glokib you're conflating a belief in creationism with a a reason for religion.
      Simply put if there is a God then creationism isn't far fetched it doesn't matter what God or if you believe it on a purely hypothetical basis it makes more sense that any god that might exist would be involved in some manner.

  • @alt0799
    @alt0799 9 лет назад +147

    I thought by the title I was going to watch a very short scientist debate with a Creationist.

    • @velociraptor938
      @velociraptor938 9 лет назад +3

      ***** Nicely done, sir.

    • @think_radically1433
      @think_radically1433 9 лет назад +1

      too funny!

    • @NightfallShadow
      @NightfallShadow 9 лет назад +1

      +Andrew Heard I know right?! I was expecting a midget scientists talking to a creationist lol
      WHERE IS MY MIDGET!!!!

    • @michaelhill5272
      @michaelhill5272 8 лет назад +11

      Creationist scientists? That is like saying Devil worshipping christians. Creationists are creationists because they do not know any science, or just about anything else. They are severely retarded.

    • @scorp5642
      @scorp5642 8 лет назад

      +Andrew Heard Thank you for helping me catch that lol

  • @Legna1826
    @Legna1826 2 года назад +47

    By-stander: “You just threw that scientist off the Grand Canyon!!”
    Creationist: “Wanna go next? ... “I didn’t think so!!"

    • @user-jh5dq9vc1v
      @user-jh5dq9vc1v 2 года назад +15

      Kill people that smarter than you, so you can be the smartest man in the area

    • @nobleradical2158
      @nobleradical2158 2 года назад +5

      @@user-jh5dq9vc1v sigma rule #5000

    • @TetraGalaxyTelecast
      @TetraGalaxyTelecast 2 года назад +2

      @@user-jh5dq9vc1v gotta keep up that sigma male grindset 💪😤

    • @cristian-bull
      @cristian-bull 2 года назад

      he can't do that. You can't throw things inside, having them eroded takes at minimum hundreds of millions of years.

    • @Legna1826
      @Legna1826 2 года назад

      @@cristian-bull is that based on science or millions of years Creation?😁

  • @d.b.levitt
    @d.b.levitt 2 года назад

    I had to read that title a few times over.

  • @urban_rural1256
    @urban_rural1256 2 года назад +1889

    Honestly though? Kudos to the creationist guy for not just flying into a rage-fueled tangent at the end, they both had different views and they didn't clash with them any more than was necessary.
    EDIT: most of the replies have just ended up proving my point. Nice going, fellas.

    • @maaderllin
      @maaderllin 2 года назад +259

      The problem is that one of them (the creationist) is clearly wrong, while the other (the scientist) is undoubtedly right.

    • @jerm5
      @jerm5 2 года назад +85

      Well we don't really see what happens beyond the 31-second mark

    • @arcguardian
      @arcguardian 2 года назад +22

      @@maaderllin wrong about what exactly?

    • @maaderllin
      @maaderllin 2 года назад +173

      @@arcguardian Wrong that creationism is a science.
      Science is a process. You gather evidence. You ponder on their meaning and elaborate an hypothesis on a question about the evidence: Why is this here, how did it get to this point, how does that work.
      With the question you ask, you gather more evidence to confirm your hypothesis, and if the evidence shows something that doesn't fit, you change your hypothesis until you arrive at a satisfying theory that explains the phenomenon you're studying.
      Creationists fail at this, because they start with their assessment (hypothesis) without any evidence and are unable to prove their axiom: That there is a creator. They give no satisfying evidence for it because the notion of a God is metaphysical, not physical and therefore not scientific.
      In science, when you disagree with someone else's findings, you must not only demonstrate that the evidence they gathered don't prove their theory, you must also elaborate a new hypothesis and test it.
      Creationists fail at both. They cherrypick or misrepresent scientists' evidence to try and disprove real science, wich they don't even succeed, and they fail to provide any evidence for their competing thesis.
      So, in a debate wether creationists are scientists or not, there is a clear right and wrong here: Creationists are not scientists.
      And I'll go further than that. I'm born and raised catholic. I don't agree with all of my original church's dogma, but I still believe in god. What I'm about to say will be controversial but here I come: Creationists even fail at their religion.
      Faith is about what is beyond our ability to understand and to learn. Faith can not and should not be proven and try to compete with science. If faith is about how we came to be, it can't exist because we can learn this. Faith is about something that can't be put into words.
      Creationists, when they desperately try to "prove" god, demonstrate how insecure they are in their own faith, because for them, each scientific gain of knowledge gives them smaller and smaller things to have faith into.

    • @kveldulfpride
      @kveldulfpride 2 года назад +46

      @@maaderllin I don't believe creationism asserts a different method for science. When gathering a hypothesis, you do so with evidence and then test, then it becomes a theory when it becomes more confirmed over time. What I would accuse young earth creationist of doing is cherry picking possibly scripture to fit a narrative when the words themselves carry less historical exactness and are meant (early hebrew for example) more on meaning.
      Just to put out there, I use to lean more young earth creationist now its old earth, but I'm still a creationist. I see the issue with consciousness being unanswerable within the current framework of pure naturalism and that evolution itself requires a dependency (perfectly timed insertion from an ultimate mind) to start an effective self replicating, robust structure such as DNA to yield the result we recognize as the mind. I further claim that Christianity as the most consistent philosophically and the most satisfying framework for solving internal struggles - not the external/religious perception. I digress though.
      There are holes I see with the current dating methods, and I do see potential blocks from scientists attempting to protect their stake in posterity (abroad in academia). I see some manner of skepticism as good for academia because, well that's the sane thing to do. Climate science for example is hugely political yet supposed scientists and talking heads run their mouths like they know what they are talking about. Anyone is possibly shamed for pointing out that they are not even reading their own papers when making claims. Point is, we ought to be respectful of those with fundamental differences sometimes because sometimes they are proved correct and our assumptions were actually wrong.

  • @5893MrWilson
    @5893MrWilson 9 лет назад +216

    Problem 1:
    Which of the following is the best way to answer questions and discover the truth.
    A.) Read many books and use the scientific method
    B.) Read one book and ask your imaginary friend

    • @speedy7040
      @speedy7040 9 лет назад +1

      ***** , creationists do not search for the best way to answer questions ( "o, you of little faith ") and do not want to discover the truth (they don't "discover" , they are teached, told, showed.....) Slave mentallity.
      So , yeah, one book and one shepard.. easy and not al all confusing. And the best part , if fallowing THAT shepard makes you do bad things ( like sacrificing your own kid on an altar ) it is NOT YOUR FAULT.

    • @timspangler8440
      @timspangler8440 9 лет назад +1

      speedy Stereotype much? Did you figure out the origin of life apart from God? If you ever do, the rest of the world will worship you. Ironic,huh?

    • @speedy7040
      @speedy7040 9 лет назад +2

      Tim,
      1., I was not talking about God and the origin of life, but about the BIBLE- wich is a BOOK, stories told and interpreted for hundreds of years by hundreds of ppl (HUMANS) before beeing written, and then copyed hundreds of times and then TRANSLATED for 3-4 times... and then copyed again... and then SELECTED... and interpreted...and "completed' ...
      It is really stupid to belive in theese conditions that the Bible is 100 % true. Even if Moses heard the word of God, it is certain that what you have in your hands today it is not what Moses heard.
      2.Stereotype... hm..I'm sorry , is something I said NOT from your Bible ?
      Maybe I am wrong and chistianity is all for the science and discoverys ... and the Dark Ages was just a big misunderstand...
      wait , aren't creationist rejecting with out explaination ALL the evidence against their theory - bones, geografie, geologie,biologie, ancient civilization, carbon dating etc... , refusing even to look at it ???
      How else can you reamain a creationist (again it is not about beliving in God , but in the Bible) if you really look at the facts ?

    • @Sunchildval
      @Sunchildval 9 лет назад +3

      ***** Scientists use a lot of methods to estimate the age of something. C14 is only one of them. What's more, every scientist theory is refutable. You know why ? Because it was made to be refutable. It is the basis of the scientific method. Seriously, if you pay more attention to something that has been written in a book by some men, rather than paying attention to theories which has been tested and validated following a clear, precise and refutable method, then I can't do anything for you.

    • @girthicusmaximus
      @girthicusmaximus 8 лет назад

      in my book ***** atheists are but children trying to understand their own conception without someone teaching it to them

  • @buddyltd
    @buddyltd Месяц назад +1

    I like how awkward the conversation becomes after "Ah, right, okay..."

  • @carlwheezer1030
    @carlwheezer1030 2 месяца назад +2

    we are all disappointed as we wanted to see the short scientist

  • @philip1279
    @philip1279 2 года назад +2483

    I like it when people call naturalism an assumption. I was going to try a supernatural hypothesis but it turns out I couldn’t test it so I gave natural a try and it just kept working.
    Edit: I understand strictly speaking naturalism is an assumption. This is mainly about methodological naturalism which is the relevant one to the world of science. Philosophical naturalism is not really the concern here. In the pursuit of knowledge methodological naturalism is the only available tool.

    • @iamlordstarbuilder5595
      @iamlordstarbuilder5595 2 года назад +16

      This philosophy is called “provisional methodological naturalism” and is the kind of methodnat I subscribe to.

    • @helvete_ingres4717
      @helvete_ingres4717 2 года назад +81

      I mean, you are literally describing naturalism as an assumption, 'natural' observations can be repeated and therefore tested. That's a reason to 'assume' naturalism - b/c it's practical for corroborating scientific theories

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 2 года назад +29

      Naturalism is an assumption, because it can not be proved. It assumes that there is no supernatural.

    • @jeremiahnoar7504
      @jeremiahnoar7504 2 года назад +19

      both are assumptions. One can't test whether or not all events are governed by physical laws. That would be necessary for naturalism to be more than an assumption.

    • @jeremiahnoar7504
      @jeremiahnoar7504 2 года назад +15

      @@helvete_ingres4717 the problem is that naturalism is the belief that "All" events are governed by natural laws. That's the part that can't be tested.

  • @user-dw2nu2sq5t
    @user-dw2nu2sq5t 7 лет назад +108

    The Scientist seemed average height to me

    • @chefmike8177
      @chefmike8177 7 лет назад +3

      Lol.

    • @germanvisitor2
      @germanvisitor2 5 лет назад +3

      That is the interpreter. The scientist is too small to be seen.

    • @user-zb8tq5pr4x
      @user-zb8tq5pr4x 5 лет назад

      Well you seemed of average intelligence to me, guess we were both wrong

  • @threethrushes
    @threethrushes 25 дней назад +1

    Let reasonable disposition move reasonable disposition. - Marcus Aurelius.
    This single piece of advice has saved my sanity from arguing with the ignorant, uninformed, and the scientifically illiterate.

  • @jbyrd655
    @jbyrd655 Год назад +2

    It never gets old...

  • @lohphat
    @lohphat 3 года назад +739

    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
    ― Issac Asimov

    • @monstertrucktennis
      @monstertrucktennis 2 года назад +29

      So much more than just a Sci Fi author.

    • @michelguevara151
      @michelguevara151 2 года назад +46

      @@monstertrucktennis mostly a chemist. wrote over 300 books on the subject.
      taught chemistry too.
      a brilliant mind.

    • @jackasschicken5922
      @jackasschicken5922 2 года назад +12

      Intellectuals tend to be the people most lacking wisdom. Go ahead and research it. Government think tanks have been the source of the world's greatest blunders time and time again.

    • @eddiethenose3018
      @eddiethenose3018 2 года назад +40

      @@jackasschicken5922 ... and also some of the world's greatest achievements! It's hard to mess anything up on a large scale by sitting around driving farts into a couch while watching OW MY BALLS on tv.

    • @disneylandonfire3538
      @disneylandonfire3538 2 года назад +50

      @@jackasschicken5922 so government think-tanks are the representation of science now, lol. While I may agree with a nuanced criticism of scientific institutions today; you, sir, represent a terminal case of cultural stupidity.

  • @noisew4ll
    @noisew4ll 7 лет назад +1242

    God obviously carved out the Grand Canyon with a spoon.
    Thought it was Ben & Jerry's and was like "ah shit, oh well"

    • @ZapKrannigan
      @ZapKrannigan 7 лет назад +15

      He took a few bites and quickly realized it was all rocks and sand

    • @CotymoG
      @CotymoG 7 лет назад +37

      Erik Redeker and that's how "Rocky Road" was invented.

    • @absurdrhino
      @absurdrhino 7 лет назад

      except there are no roads in the canyon you complete dipshit moron

    • @rhyswelding3657
      @rhyswelding3657 7 лет назад +26

      absurdrhino Christ, he was only trying to make a joke

    • @absurdrhino
      @absurdrhino 7 лет назад +6

      I saw it as a defamation of my character

  • @christiangottsacker6932
    @christiangottsacker6932 2 года назад +2

    When two guys bring a peanut butter sandwich to a knife fight

  • @johnalexir7634
    @johnalexir7634 2 месяца назад +2

    Reading the video title, for a second I thought the scientist was going to be 4 feet tall or something. Edit: Looking through comments it's clear I wasn't the only one who thought that :)

  • @kristofevarsson6903
    @kristofevarsson6903 3 года назад +211

    "Never interrupt one's enemy whilst they blunder."

    • @diegotavel5872
      @diegotavel5872 3 года назад +7

      Napoleon Bonaparte

    • @FanboyFilms
      @FanboyFilms 3 года назад +6

      @@diegotavel5872 I thought that was a Sun Tzu. Live and learn.

    • @diegotavel5872
      @diegotavel5872 3 года назад +15

      @@FanboyFilms
      Actually the real quote goes like this:
      "In that case,” said Napoleon, “let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him.”

    • @Alleis
      @Alleis 3 года назад +2

      In the spirit of Mikhail Tal.

  • @lonestar6709
    @lonestar6709 5 лет назад +147

    _"Thick people are very good at arguments. Because they're too stupid to realize they've lost."_ -Chris Morris.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 5 лет назад +2

      @@lukasbrucas3027 It's a different thick/thicc. 'Thick' as in 'thick-skulled', dumb, stupid, etc.

    • @stuffstuff137
      @stuffstuff137 5 лет назад

      Yeah you can throw all the facts at them but they’ll just denied it

    • @rhysf.505
      @rhysf.505 5 лет назад +1

      Question, who do you is better at arguing in this instance?

    • @Rezinstance
      @Rezinstance 5 лет назад +2

      @@rhysf.505 You wanna finish that sentence there, buddy?

    • @rhysf.505
      @rhysf.505 5 лет назад +1

      Rez, hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • @DrBrule-mv4ir
    @DrBrule-mv4ir 2 месяца назад +1

    If the text with the highest authority in your field of study is a religious text and absolute faith despite any evidence is paramount, then by very definition that is not science. Believe what you want but stay in your lane.

  • @cokecan6169
    @cokecan6169 Месяц назад +2

    "Creationist literature"

  • @fububalla
    @fububalla 6 лет назад +608

    I met a 3 foot scientist before, that guy was at least 4' 10 minimum

  • @TurboDally
    @TurboDally 10 лет назад +28

    "...assumptions of naturalism..."
    So, why bother with science when we can just look for supernatural/magical explanations for mysteries instead?

    • @Tiaineo
      @Tiaineo 10 лет назад +1

      Because they don't exist. We've proven them wrong.

  • @robertredbeard1855
    @robertredbeard1855 28 дней назад +1

    Not sure if all the short jokes make me fear for the future of humanity or relish in it.

  • @gusfring6887
    @gusfring6887 6 дней назад +1

    You can't change the mind of someone who doesn't use logic with logic, you might as well speak a different language

  • @themodernshoe2466
    @themodernshoe2466 10 лет назад +78

    Why do I watch videos like these? It's like I'm seeking out something to hear that makes me angry.

    • @SNAKEPATR10T
      @SNAKEPATR10T 10 лет назад +28

      I think I have this problem as well...

    • @apr2047
      @apr2047 10 лет назад +14

      same here its like i wanna get pissed off

    • @apr2047
      @apr2047 10 лет назад +1

      E. Ras i didn't even know that, thats really annoying, i need to check that out hahaha

    • @harpfully
      @harpfully 10 лет назад +10

      You folks are taking the wrong attitude. It's surreal comedy! :-)

    • @apr2047
      @apr2047 10 лет назад

      guess so hahaha

  • @Campbellteaching
    @Campbellteaching 4 года назад +856

    Well to be fair, the two guys were outclassed by the geologist, it does not say too much about their mutual positions.

    • @sen7826
      @sen7826 4 года назад +114

      Their positions were that he was standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon and disagreeing with them.
      A very dangerous position I'd say.

    • @brandonszpot8948
      @brandonszpot8948 3 года назад +30

      Tim Webb He responded with buzzword “arguments” that he sees as fallacies, because he has nothing else to go on. There’s no stance to present. He can only make some dumb sophist point about naturalism and uniformitarianism. Meaninglessness, zero substance. I’d say it was a pretty balanced fight.

    • @sen7826
      @sen7826 3 года назад +6

      @Tim Webb they didn't use even the short time given to them.
      They were silent. So, I'd think adding extra silent seconds to the video doesn't make it a better argument...?

    • @sen7826
      @sen7826 3 года назад

      @Tim Webb adding extra silent seconds to the video wouldn't make it worse?
      (Although I personally don't think that it is bad at all.)

    • @sen7826
      @sen7826 3 года назад +3

      @Tim Webb
      My issue is with your first reply. All the subsequent replies you made were conversations with the op. Not me.
      And you already started a personal attack when you know next to nothing about me. Why? It's just rude, and not even rational.
      Besides that, how about addressing what I asked?

  • @timmanning5357
    @timmanning5357 Год назад +3

    Just think how advanced humanity would be now if we ignored creationists?

    • @arthurjeremypearson
      @arthurjeremypearson Год назад +2

      Says someone who is currently not ignoring creationists.

    • @timmanning5357
      @timmanning5357 Год назад +6

      @@arthurjeremypearson Don't worry, I have been ignoring creationists for decades and am all the better for it.

    • @jianth
      @jianth Год назад +2

      ​@@timmanning5357the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and knowledge

    • @222ableVelo
      @222ableVelo 11 месяцев назад

      You'd be far less advanced. By every measure.

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 Месяц назад

      @@jianth Let us NOT fear this "lord".
      Leviticus 25:44-46
      King James Version
      44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
      45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
      46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

  • @tylertichoc7330
    @tylertichoc7330 2 года назад +52

    Believing in religion is one thing. Denying facts and ignoring logic is another thing entirely.
    Not knowing something and admitting it and admitting when you're wrong doesn't make you stupid. It makes you brave and smart.
    Ignoring the mistakes you make and refusing to acknowledge the it apologize for the wrongs you have committed doesn't make you stronger. It makes you weaker and an idiot.
    I believe this is what those old sayings meant when they said "When one makes a mistake and does not correct it, that is the second mistake." and "True men know what is right, inferior men know what sells."
    Regardless of any belief system you have, you must accept reality. You cannot deny logic. Because if you do, you will still have to answer for your actions. Because the rest of the universe doesn't stop for you when are uncomfortable with. In fact, it just runs over you as the rest of the world continues to move on just fine without you.
    And one way or another, wether you practice what you preach, you WILL reap what you sow.

    • @malachi4838
      @malachi4838 2 года назад

      you can still believe in creation and at the same time believe that it took millions or billions of years for the grand canyon to become what it is today. the only thing the bible contradicts is evolution since the "days" in Genesis are obviously not meant to be taken in a literal sense of ~24 hours.
      evolution is not a proven fact, that is why its called a theory

    • @yanukh
      @yanukh 2 года назад +6

      @@malachi4838 A scientific theory is not the same as a colloquial theory. A thesis is not proven, people often use the word "theory", but mean "thesis". A scientific theory is a system of reasoned statements based on scientific evidence. When the evidence is very strong, it becomes a scientific consensus, which means that you need extraordinary strong evidence to falsify the theory. Evolution is a proven fact, it exists, it is scientific consenus. The evidence so strong, that there are numerous sciences and humanities based on theory of evolution and named after it.
      The biologist Richard Lenski said: "Scientific understanding requires both facts and theories that can explain those facts in a coherent manner. Evolution, in this context, is both a fact and a theory. It is an incontrovertible fact that organisms have changed, or evolved, during the history of life on Earth. And biologists have identified and investigated mechanisms that can explain the major patterns of change".
      Source: Lenski, Richard E. (September 2000). "Evolution: Fact and Theory". actionbioscience. Washington, D.C.: American Institute of Biological Sciences. Archived from the original on 2007-04-03. Retrieved 2014-08-27.

    • @jhevyspencergomez3767
      @jhevyspencergomez3767 2 года назад +2

      Amen!!

    • @mariosebastiani3214
      @mariosebastiani3214 2 года назад

      Believing in religion IS denying facts and ignoring logic

    • @vejeke
      @vejeke Год назад

      They are not entirely different things. They are closely related.

  • @MrAerohank
    @MrAerohank 7 лет назад +20

    Why do people even bother debating with creationists? If creationists had any interests in logic, evidence or reasoning they wouldn't be creationists in the fist place.

    • @HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote
      @HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote 7 лет назад +1

      Because of childhood indoctrination they truly believe that it is the truth, and many will want to learn more about the truth with logic and reasoning. The people I'm talking about are teenageers and people who are new to what atheism actually is that see these debates. You won't convince the person you're debating against, but you're planting a seed of doubt to others that do use reason and logic but never saw the illogical side of their belief. The debates aren't for the person you're debating against, it's for the bystanders that see it.

    • @andrewboddy2791
      @andrewboddy2791 7 лет назад +1

      For some years 'serious scientists' ignored Intelligent Design, expecting it to 'just go away'... but by neglecting the debate Intelligent Design began to appear in children's school textbooks (in America). So it has since become important, especially via social media, to encourage the debate.
      from Sweden, the most godless country in the World.

  • @bullymaguire2061
    @bullymaguire2061 4 года назад +1191

    I still can't believe a word called "evolutionist" came up.
    It's like calling someone an "earthist" because they believe that the earth is real.

    • @sunblaze8931
      @sunblaze8931 4 года назад +33

      Suboptimal Constructor Why are creationists called creationists?
      We need names for these hugely different beliefs. Evolutionism is a worldview, as creationism is.

    • @stylishskater92
      @stylishskater92 4 года назад +167

      @@sunblaze8931 Well, a word view based on overwhelming evidence and reason. Thats like saying "eating" is a world view. I guess you can view the world in a way where you dont eat.

    • @achyuthansanal
      @achyuthansanal 4 года назад +116

      Jesus Christ “Evolutionism” isn’t a world view. It’s the truth.

    • @sunblaze8931
      @sunblaze8931 4 года назад +13

      Achyuthan Sanal Evolutionism is a worldview. It’s the worldview that humans evolved from animals.

    • @sunblaze8931
      @sunblaze8931 4 года назад +10

      Achyuthan Sanal Also, I don’t disagree with the validity of evolution, I just hold that it is a worldview.

  • @wilfdarr
    @wilfdarr 2 года назад +4

    It's a moot argument: if one believes God exists and created the earth, then He “obviously” created the deposits and the erosion as they lay (I personally believed this for the first 35 years of my life).
    The real question then is “if 'The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands' and if '...the stones will cry out', then why pray tell, would God craft a world with a misleading narrative? Does that sound like “the way, the truth, and the life”, like the great “I Am? Of course it's only one of the many conflicts that ultimately convinced me to call the game.

    • @EthanPDobbins
      @EthanPDobbins 2 года назад

      Or the giant flood that covered the whole earth caused erosion and mineral deposits because that's what water does. Every single culture on Earth has their own narrative mirroring the biblical deluge for a reason. Take a half dozen different minerals of various densities a couple tablespoons of each put them in a bottle of water and shake It up and dump it into a graduated cylinder and watch what happens. It is an elementary science experiment that is perfectly represented by the reality of how the mineral layers settled; that is to say the densest minerals on the bottom, lightest at the top. Deluge also explains the skewed fossil record and why animals that were supposed to have lived millions of years apart will occur in the same mineral layer. Have a look at the Grand canyon and the mountain plateau that a river supposedly run up one side and down the other to form the canyon. Behind the canyon and the plateau is the portion of America that is well known by scientists to have once been a giant freshwater sea. The answer is glaringly obvious that a river did not flow up one side of a plateau and down the other. The layers were largely formed by a flood, and the draining of the freshwater seas through a weak point in the mountain range cause the canyon to form likely in a matter of days or weeks rather than the millions of years purported by so called scientists.

  • @richardc6269
    @richardc6269 Год назад +3

    I don't count them as scientists....10yrs on n it never gets old!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🌋🌋🤣🤣

  • @Sherudons
    @Sherudons 5 лет назад +540

    That awkward silence at the end was perfect.
    Does the uncut version have him chasing him in a pick-up truck?.

    • @ImranKhan1976
      @ImranKhan1976 4 года назад +12

      @shaking like tremolo he's from Northern Ireland so it would be flute music.

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 3 года назад +2

      @Paul Morgan I think we can deduce that he's a total bell end just from this 30 seconds.

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 3 года назад

      @Paul Morgan Absolutely spot on Paul.

    • @QuarrellaDeVil
      @QuarrellaDeVil 3 года назад +2

      Reminded me of the Christopher Hitchens video where some 9/11 conspiracy crackpot was asking him about his position on the war on terror, and Hitches said "I'm not bothering with you."

  • @lickmyshoe182
    @lickmyshoe182 9 лет назад +274

    Over the last 500 years science has come forward leaps and bounds, innovating and showing things to be facts, countless things. Religion has yet to prove ONE thing that is says to be truthful. Just ONE and it can't even manage that because all they have to go back on is that book that has been re-written countless times by countless people. It's a story, an early form of policing, that's it. I find it shocking that people of this age still believe in angels and miracles and a magic man in the sky. It's really, really disheartening.

    • @callumoconnor7167
      @callumoconnor7167 9 лет назад +26

      I call that magic man, their imaginary-sky-daddy.

    • @jackorion7157
      @jackorion7157 9 лет назад +1

      Nice copy/paste opinion you have there.

    • @callumoconnor7167
      @callumoconnor7167 9 лет назад +7

      (╭ರ_•́), nice name sir.

    • @thevictorianbaroness7604
      @thevictorianbaroness7604 9 лет назад +6

      (╭ರ_•́) Nice monocle U___U

    • @opokuprince9563
      @opokuprince9563 9 лет назад

      THANKS FOR saying science not evolution cause evolution is not science
      and the bible claims Jesus rose up and indeed he did as any historian would tell. you check your facts fella

  • @mark6302
    @mark6302 2 месяца назад +1

    i cant even understand what the fuck that guy is saying "humumnmunuma naturalism" "uhumumhsan literature" "um ok"

  • @geraldmerkowitz4360
    @geraldmerkowitz4360 7 лет назад +203

    I don't get what the creationist says. He speaks without bothering moving his lips.

    • @czechmeowt2868
      @czechmeowt2868 7 лет назад +31

      He's Irish lol

    • @geraldmerkowitz4360
      @geraldmerkowitz4360 7 лет назад +2

      Czech your privilege
      So anyone to tell me what is happening please ^^ ?

    • @czechmeowt2868
      @czechmeowt2868 7 лет назад +27

      "John thank you for your talk so far, your first assumption was naturalism, and second was uniformitarianism"
      "well not all scientists, thats a false statement"
      "so you've never read anything by a scientist like that?"
      "ahh okay"
      Those are the four sentences he says

    • @geraldmerkowitz4360
      @geraldmerkowitz4360 7 лет назад

      Czech your privilege
      Thanks, everything is clearer now

    • @czechmeowt2868
      @czechmeowt2868 7 лет назад +1

      Archibald Belanus No problem bud

  • @PrakashCherianmadscientist
    @PrakashCherianmadscientist 9 лет назад +127

    Evolution does not try to deny the existence of God, why don't people get it?

    • @arthurdent549
      @arthurdent549 9 лет назад +6

      Prakash, that is a great point that I wish I could easily answer, but I cannot. Perhaps some of that thinking comes from the concept that God cannot make a mistake...so let's say that's true, then who are we as humans to judge some of the dead ends in evolution as mistakes? If you follow my thinking then what you'll find is the sheer arrogance on the part of those who oppose evolution who claim to understand what God does or does not do.
      I'll leave you with this to consider. Galileo Galilei (1564-1642) was placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life (9 years) for suggesting that the earth was not the center of the Universe, and instead revolved around the Sun, which was. His works were banned thereafter. This underlines my point about religious perfection and God never making mistakes...according to very fallible religious authorities.
      Galileo is remembered today as the father of modern astronomy and physics. Those religious authorities from that time are nothing more than dust. Think about it.
      -Peace

    • @PrakashCherianmadscientist
      @PrakashCherianmadscientist 9 лет назад +2

      Arthur Dent
      I agree a 100%. I think most of the conflict arises from the method rather than the outcome.
      Evolution talks about how life changes and progresses. It doesn't even try to attempt to explain how life started so it doesn't try to deny God in any way.
      According to the Bible, however, God created the world in 6 days and people were created as they are in Gods image. Since they believe that people are created as they are, as opposed to have evolved from monkeys, there is conflict between evolutionist and creationist belief.
      Besides the church made plenty of blunders in the name of God. It makes sense that people have lost their trust in them.

    • @PrakashCherianmadscientist
      @PrakashCherianmadscientist 9 лет назад +2

      ***** I agree but most of the nonsense that's being said is not even in the Bible to begin with. The Bible never states that the Earth is flat or that the Earth is at the center of the solar system. It's all bullshit, that the church said at the time.

    • @arthurdent549
      @arthurdent549 9 лет назад +1

      Prakash Cherian Partner, I hear you and agree. All joking aside, that's what I call Monkey Business from the far Christian Right. Evolution never stated that...in fact the 'missing link' has yet to be found, but that does not mean it is not there. Darwin himself expressed concerns regarding his 'Origin of species' paper after publishing it saying that at some point it may be seriously challenged...instead science caught up with him providing a clear fossil record and embraced what continued to make scientific sense and went on to become scientific theory. What I admire about Charles Darwin the most, was his humility. You'll not find that in any religion as they never make mistakes.
      Don't get me wrong here as I believe in God. I also believe in the teachings of Christ. Modern, and older religion leaves me numb...in America as you may know the KKK (klu,klux,klan) were Christian...need I say more?
      Thank you for posting your single, original, sentence.
      -Peace

    • @bobdude5282
      @bobdude5282 9 лет назад

      The fear is that evolution disproves the creation myth which destroys all religions with creation myths

  • @thelawofficeofjordanb.rick4425
    @thelawofficeofjordanb.rick4425 2 года назад +53

    Not to take a side in the debate here, but this guy’s argument is entirely self-affirming. “All scientists agree with me, and those who don’t are not scientists.” Apply that to any other issue and the absurdity is obvious: “All economists agree with me, and if they don’t they’re not economists.” “All politicians agree with me, and those who don’t are not politicians.” I can’t think of too many arguments less scientific than that. Do better, Mr. Science!

    • @kristophesiem5336
      @kristophesiem5336 2 года назад +18

      But in a way, he's right. The only people who would argue with him in that regard are ignorants who havent studied science, so they are not scientists. Those who dont use sience to proove their theories cannot be called scientists, so until a creationist comes with factual evidence to support their claim, they cant be called a scientist, that'd be a philosopher

    • @kristophesiem5336
      @kristophesiem5336 2 года назад +16

      @@Xymage but in this case it's not a personal opinion, we're talking about scientific facts that have been proven for a long time and about the only people opposing it are idiots without a propper education. He is right in the other contexts, but science isnt about opinions, it's about proving hypothesis, and this one has already been proved

    • @ward2316
      @ward2316 2 года назад +6

      @@kristophesiem5336 Substantively, the scientist is right, but the way he pushed his argument is wrong. What he should have said was, "I read them, and here's what they got wrong." Not "If you disagree, then you are not a scientist." That's a bad faith way to present your position.

    • @Live-qf2lg
      @Live-qf2lg 2 года назад

      I live reading two random people fight in RUclips comments. Please, keep wasting your life.

    • @monkeyman193
      @monkeyman193 2 года назад +4

      @@kristophesiem5336 creation scientists are the exact opposite of scientist. Trying to justify a belief with correlation is not science.