I know the Trojan War has been done to death, but I’d love a retelling that focuses specifically on Andromache after the war and winding up with Helenus, or Helen and Menelaus falling back in love with one another in Egypt. Or one focusing on Achilles’s half-sister, who I think has one line referencing her in the Iliad?
I remember hearing word of Narcissus rejecting not only Echo but also a fellow named Ameianias. I could see him and Echo bonding over how much Narcissus freaking sucks.
Very surprised you didn’t pitch the idea of an Outlander-type fantasy novel where a young Greek mythology expert is transported back to the Trojan War and falls in love with Diomedes 😅 I totally second the Hypsipyle and Dido retellings (not so sure about whats-his-name eating his arm).
These are all AMAZING shouts 😍 I've been hoping someone will pick up Dido since I read her backstory for the first time! Also, so excited for your author advice video (my notepad is ready 🤓)!!
Oh and also Orpheus and Eurydice is used for The Giant Dark, Vipers & Virtuosos and also Orphia & Eurydicius :) I know there are LOADS of others, but those are just off the top of my head!
@@MoAnInc omg no way!! COJ is next on my TBR list, i didn’t even realise! Thank you💘💘 now I think of it, that was really silly of me to not realise Antigone would be in that story🤣🤣
madeline miller wanted to make dido but she now decided that persephone should be next since she said Dido would be too big of project and can't be done without paying attention in details
some greeek myths I want people to retell would be 1. the Titanomachy, it's the start of the age where most greek mythology starts, but it's always seen in the background, as set dressing, the titans were already dealt with so why tell a story about them? because it would be cool and something we don't see done. from Cronos swallowing his children to the gods dividing up the universe I'd like to see that story 2. The Oresteia, a modern retelling would be nice to see, maybe a courtroom drama/comedy revenge soapopera of the tragedy with all the messy parts. Some things would obviously have to be changed, but I think it would work I'd also like to see a story where Athena isn't portrayed as a villain or at best a cold uncaring bitch. I get that she isn't always portrayed well, but a lot of the terrible acts she does are as Minerva in Ovid's stories, not actually Athena. I'd like a story where she can be complicated instead of one dimensional.
I've started coming up with notes on how to eventually write a Calypso retelling! also Hypsipyle and Sappho would be an interesting dynamic. and Erysichthon all I could think of is a vampire who refuses to drink blood and tries drinking/eating ANYTHING else to survive
These are literally all SO amazing, Erica!! I think the story of Hypsipyle would be wildly different and more brutal/direct than other retellings but it would be incredibly interesting to read about (especially the part about the killing of all the men). And the story of Echo and Narcissus, and Io's myth would be heartbreakingly beautiful. I actually believe that Io's inner thoughts and feelings when she is wandering around as a cow, would be a fascinating addition to the story (even though her walking is probably not a big selling point for the story - but it would provide a really good opportunity to develop her character). Thank you for putting these together! I am now (not so) patiently waiting for someone to pick one of them up!
Thank you for this channel! I've really enjoyed your guests and it's great to see so much energy and interest in this amazing source material. I'm hoping you keep at this because your channel has so many great videos. (Iliad v. Odyssey, for example) I was wondering if anyone had done a good work up with Cleon of Athens? I know he's not a mythical character, but similar to Wicked, I've wondered about a man who so enervated Aristophanes as to give Cleon his full attention; Thucydides had much to say, as well. But at the same time, we have this perspective of him largely through his opponents but we know that he was also very popular with a large segment of Athens. Just seems like there's a lot there to look at even if it's not necessarily as entertaining as some of the other characters. Thanks!
Love the suggestions and especially the idea of an Echo and Narcissus retelling! I only ever seen one modern update to Echo’s story and that was in the Class of the Titan’s series on Amazon. The episode is called “The Last Word” and the plot line is that Echo kidnaps one of the main characters who happens to be the descendant of Narcissus.
Describing Erysichthon eating his own arm made me think of Junji Ito manga and now I want a full on proper mental horror retelling of this that doesn’t shy away from how insane you would become from having insatiable hunger
Now that I think about it, I REALLY want a retelling of Persephone, Aphrodite, and Adonis!!! 💕💕 OR ACTUALLY! A HERA AND ZEUS RETELLING!!! All from Hera’s point of view!!!💕👏👏
How would you feel about authors taking certain characters that don't usually interact and imagining their relationship? I'm never sure how I feel about them. I woukd love Artemis and Nyx to interact more for example but there's hardly anything about their relationship 😅
Ooh, these are all great picks! Personally, I’d like to see something told from Hephaestus’ point of view. What it was like to be raised as he was, his yearning for Hera’s love & approval, his disastrous marriage to Aphrodite, etc.
if you have not listened to Maria Dahvana Headley's Virgil! I would recommend it, it's a musical pirate queer take on Virgil writing the Aeneid while Emperor Augustus goes looking for his very late poem. The Dido parts are fantastic.
@@MoAnInc 🤩🤩🤩 what do you think about it? I'm quite curious about reading it. The story of Oedipus is one the most fascinating and tragic of all greek mythology 🧡
Still watching the video but it’d be interesting to read a retelling of Niobe or Alcestis (interesting because Niobe cause from a cursed line and Alcestis has….sigh…..I mean a terribly selfish husband but I find his mourning intriguing).
@@MoAnInc on a similar but different note, I’d love to see a book that does some comp. myth and takes classical myths as the base most people would know of to sigue into other world mythologies. Orpheus & Eurydice to Izanagi and Izanami and back to Eros and Psyche
You have proposed some fantastic ideas! I would also be eager to read a Narcissus/Echo retelling. I just published 'Pharmakides', a retelling of Medousa from the bird's eye view. My next novel is about Arion. (Not Orion! Arion, the Dionysian musician). What do you think of retelling his story? Would you read it?
I've always wanted to read an Artemis and Orion retelling.
This is a GREAT suggestion!!!
What a great idea!
I know the Trojan War has been done to death, but I’d love a retelling that focuses specifically on Andromache after the war and winding up with Helenus, or Helen and Menelaus falling back in love with one another in Egypt. Or one focusing on Achilles’s half-sister, who I think has one line referencing her in the Iliad?
I remember hearing word of Narcissus rejecting not only Echo but also a fellow named Ameianias. I could see him and Echo bonding over how much Narcissus freaking sucks.
Very surprised you didn’t pitch the idea of an Outlander-type fantasy novel where a young Greek mythology expert is transported back to the Trojan War and falls in love with Diomedes 😅 I totally second the Hypsipyle and Dido retellings (not so sure about whats-his-name eating his arm).
I'd read that
😂😂😂
Diomedes is so underrated by modern authors
These are all AMAZING shouts 😍 I've been hoping someone will pick up Dido since I read her backstory for the first time! Also, so excited for your author advice video (my notepad is ready 🤓)!!
Tbh since recording this, I did find out through the grape vine that someone is currently working on Dido 👀
Echo and Narcissus is SUCH a good idea!! For me, I would love to see Orpheus and Eurydice and also Antigone!
We’ve got 2 Antigone’s in Children of Jocasta and Home Fire 🫶🏼
Oh and also Orpheus and Eurydice is used for The Giant Dark, Vipers & Virtuosos and also Orphia & Eurydicius :) I know there are LOADS of others, but those are just off the top of my head!
@@MoAnInc omg no way!! COJ is next on my TBR list, i didn’t even realise! Thank you💘💘 now I think of it, that was really silly of me to not realise Antigone would be in that story🤣🤣
madeline miller wanted to make dido but she now decided that persephone should be next since she said Dido would be too big of project and can't be done without paying attention in details
This is TRAGIC.
Love your suggestions
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some greeek myths I want people to retell would be
1. the Titanomachy, it's the start of the age where most greek mythology starts, but it's always seen in the background, as set dressing, the titans were already dealt with so why tell a story about them? because it would be cool and something we don't see done. from Cronos swallowing his children to the gods dividing up the universe I'd like to see that story
2. The Oresteia, a modern retelling would be nice to see, maybe a courtroom drama/comedy revenge soapopera of the tragedy with all the messy parts. Some things would obviously have to be changed, but I think it would work
I'd also like to see a story where Athena isn't portrayed as a villain or at best a cold uncaring bitch. I get that she isn't always portrayed well, but a lot of the terrible acts she does are as Minerva in Ovid's stories, not actually Athena. I'd like a story where she can be complicated instead of one dimensional.
Natalie Haynes’s “The Amber Fury” is the Oresteia!
I've started coming up with notes on how to eventually write a Calypso retelling! also Hypsipyle and Sappho would be an interesting dynamic. and Erysichthon all I could think of is a vampire who refuses to drink blood and tries drinking/eating ANYTHING else to survive
OH HELLO 👀
These are literally all SO amazing, Erica!! I think the story of Hypsipyle would be wildly different and more brutal/direct than other retellings but it would be incredibly interesting to read about (especially the part about the killing of all the men). And the story of Echo and Narcissus, and Io's myth would be heartbreakingly beautiful. I actually believe that Io's inner thoughts and feelings when she is wandering around as a cow, would be a fascinating addition to the story (even though her walking is probably not a big selling point for the story - but it would provide a really good opportunity to develop her character). Thank you for putting these together! I am now (not so) patiently waiting for someone to pick one of them up!
Thank you for this channel! I've really enjoyed your guests and it's great to see so much energy and interest in this amazing source material. I'm hoping you keep at this because your channel has so many great videos. (Iliad v. Odyssey, for example)
I was wondering if anyone had done a good work up with Cleon of Athens? I know he's not a mythical character, but similar to Wicked, I've wondered about a man who so enervated Aristophanes as to give Cleon his full attention; Thucydides had much to say, as well. But at the same time, we have this perspective of him largely through his opponents but we know that he was also very popular with a large segment of Athens. Just seems like there's a lot there to look at even if it's not necessarily as entertaining as some of the other characters.
Thanks!
Love the suggestions and especially the idea of an Echo and Narcissus retelling!
I only ever seen one modern update to Echo’s story and that was in the Class of the Titan’s series on Amazon. The episode is called “The Last Word” and the plot line is that Echo kidnaps one of the main characters who happens to be the descendant of Narcissus.
Describing Erysichthon eating his own arm made me think of Junji Ito manga and now I want a full on proper mental horror retelling of this that doesn’t shy away from how insane you would become from having insatiable hunger
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question, Echo can't speak for herself, just you know echo things, but could she write things down instead? technically no one says that can't be done
… you’re not wrong here 👀
Now that I think about it, I REALLY want a retelling of Persephone, Aphrodite, and Adonis!!! 💕💕 OR ACTUALLY! A HERA AND ZEUS RETELLING!!! All from Hera’s point of view!!!💕👏👏
I may know of someone working on that Hera retelling ...
How would you feel about authors taking certain characters that don't usually interact and imagining their relationship? I'm never sure how I feel about them. I woukd love Artemis and Nyx to interact more for example but there's hardly anything about their relationship 😅
I don’t mind these at all - they’re creative and fun so why not!!!
Ooh, these are all great picks! Personally, I’d like to see something told from Hephaestus’ point of view. What it was like to be raised as he was, his yearning for Hera’s love & approval, his disastrous marriage to Aphrodite, etc.
I know there’s a book called God Of Fire which is Hephaestus’ POV - but I haven’t read it so can’t vouch!
if you have not listened to Maria Dahvana Headley's Virgil! I would recommend it, it's a musical pirate queer take on Virgil writing the Aeneid while Emperor Augustus goes looking for his very late poem. The Dido parts are fantastic.
Oh WHAT!!!! I’m getting on this RIGHT NOW
Have you ever read The children of Jocasta by Natalie Haynes?
I have!
@@MoAnInc 🤩🤩🤩 what do you think about it? I'm quite curious about reading it. The story of Oedipus is one the most fascinating and tragic of all greek mythology 🧡
Still watching the video but it’d be interesting to read a retelling of Niobe or Alcestis (interesting because Niobe cause from a cursed line and Alcestis has….sigh…..I mean a terribly selfish husband but I find his mourning intriguing).
Oooo that’s a good one!!!
@@MoAnInc on a similar but different note, I’d love to see a book that does some comp. myth and takes classical myths as the base most people would know of to sigue into other world mythologies. Orpheus & Eurydice to Izanagi and Izanami and back to Eros and Psyche
You have proposed some fantastic ideas! I would also be eager to read a Narcissus/Echo retelling.
I just published 'Pharmakides', a retelling of Medousa from the bird's eye view. My next novel is about Arion. (Not Orion! Arion, the Dionysian musician). What do you think of retelling his story? Would you read it?
Erysichthon is usually pronounced Eri-sick-thon :)
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