I'm from Iraq, and back in 2014 I was awarded a scholarship and given the choice to study in the US or UK, I asked around and it quickly became obvious that a US visa, even for students, is a nightmare, many students had to wait for months only for their visas to be refused for no apparent reason other than them being Iraqi, I picked the UK to save myself the trouble, but it goes to show that even in Obama's era getting into the US for Iraqis wasn't easy at all!
By the way, if anyone is wondering why Sudan disappeared on the third travel ban: After Sudan’s cooperation with the US government on national security and information-sharing, they were not included on the third wave of restrictions.
I'd love to see you do a video about executive orders throughout American history. It's wild how powerful they have become when they're not even really in the Constitution.
@@iammrbeat Hi Mr Beat two things. The first is I am actually a third cousin of sonya sotomayor although I disagree with most of her politics. The second is a few months back I suggesting doing a video on the presidents before Washington, the presidents of the continental congress I would love if you could do that,
They’re in there for times of extreme crisis, like rebellion and wartime. That was actually the legal basis for the Emancipation Proclamation. But the way they’re used today is definitely unconstitutional and greatly undermine our republican institutions.
Going to be honest, I think it's a perfectly reasonable power for the president to place travel bans on countries that are considered a threat to national security. I do think congress should make regulations on that power, however, to limit the timeframe for which they stay in effect.
I think the pandemic was the greatest example of that. During the pandemic many countries placed travel bans on other countries they deemed high risk to stop the spread of COVID. I do think it needs restrictions though otherwise it’s just a free for all for a racist president to place travel bans on countries with people he deems “undesirable”
@@Sam-vy8ye Exactly, I think it's a reasonable power, but like everything it needs regulation so people don't use it for bigoted or authoritarian reasons
I agree with you, that the president should be able to do that however Congress has been waaay too lax on its responsibility to check the president on such questions. Hence why I think the power should be so limited that it forces Congress to actually pass a law affirming the order.
Keep up your Supreme Court Briefs series its helped me so much for my A.P. Classes and anything that helps me take on the College Board is doing a good thing
I'm really glad you covered this video. The Establishment Clause jurisprudence is confusing and frustrating enough for lawyers like myself to fully understand, let alone the average person on youtube. I'm glad it's getting some coverage here to educate civics-minded individuals
@@iammrbeat I think I also should be clear that I made this RUclips account when I was kid, hence why my username is Chuck Norris. I promise that I am not actually him lol; I just leave it as a fun reminder of simpler days
7:44 lower courts are bound to follow supreme Court precedent. So if a similar issue arises, they should follow the framework of Hawaii v. Trump. This video explains what is now legal precedent and is very useful
@@A2forty I do not think so. The government simply has to justify the law on a rational basis standard of review as there there no was constitutional right being infringed. However, I think the denial of foreigners who had visas of some sort fails the rational basis test. I mean, they were already vetted and processed.
@OmarOsman98 he finds it horrifying because anti Americans can't come into our country. This video explains how trump's order couldn't have been discriminatory because there were some Islamic countries that weren't even included in the travel bans.
Semantics, but the definition you provided for "foreign national" is slightly misleading. The location of the foreign national is technically irrelevant as the term is relativistic. To the United States government, a French citizen is a "foreign national" regardless of whether they are standing in France or any other country. Especially when it comes to laws and regulations in the United States, a Foreign National is simply defined as someone that is not a US citizen or national.
technically yes but i mean foreign has become a buzzword of extreme disapproval. now it means “any minority we do not like”. you are right and it does completely mean that but societally speakin its adopted different names
@@supremecud147 not really. Sure the word “foreign” has gained a negative connotation in the US, however that has no effect on the term “foreign national”
A friend of mine was traveling to Israel in the summer of 2017. But there were some countries she couldn’t fly into as a stop over because of the travel ban.
Which of the following Supreme Court cases should I cover for this series next? Mahanoy Area School District v. B.L. Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission
United States v. Martinez-Fuerte. Border Patrol keeps citing that case as justification for their checkpoints, so would be nice to have a video to see what that case was all about.
Hey Mr. Beat, love these scotus vids and I just wish I saw them when I was in hs. Could you put Massachusetts v EPA somewhere on your list for upcoming vids? I’m doing an article on environmental law in the us and it’d make my day if you saw this :) Thanks for making history and civics lessons enjoyable 🙏
Great video again! It's very informative and easy to understand :) I don't know if you made a video about this yet, or have been suggested those things, but I think a video about the impeached presidents and why they were impeached (what led up to it and what happened after it, etc.) would be very interesting
The ban should've failed not because it targets Muslims, but that it has no expiry date. Executive orders like these should be temporary in nature, and should only include enough time for Congress (if it agrees with the threat assessment) to draft legislation in order to make them permanent.
Being Muslim from Pakistan with relatives in US from both my parent's family Trump was an interesting talking subject. Thanks for video Mr. Beat and happy Ramadan
@@samkhodabakhshzadeh7244 Yes. Those toilet cleaners who sympathise with jihadist groups and declared Osama bin Laden a martyr. The same peacefuls whining about human rights in Kashmir and secularism in non-muslim countries while persecuting Hindus in their country.
Trump v Hawaii is pretty significant in how the conservative legal movement viewed nationwide injunctions. Before this case, nationwide injunctions weren't too controversial (or headline-making for that matter) but this case made the right believe that they were disproportionately handicapped by nationwide injunctions and thus started criticizing the concept. Any activist could file a case in a favorable district court and enjoin enforcement everywhere in the country. Of course, this applies as much to conservatives suing over liberal policies on oil regulations and fun control (as examples), but Trump v Hawaii created the perception it mainly helped liberals. There's a similar complex with progressives and SCOTUS's emergency docket, but that's for another video/comment.
Very obvious that he only added Venezuela and North Korea because they're boogeymen. No one is coming to the United States from North Korea, and I could imagine that travel rates for Venezuela weren't exactly too high either. But, by adding them, he was able to pull off his "national security" argument.
You people really think he was trying to stop literal armies from those countries and not spies, sleeper cells, propagandists, tech saboteurs, etc? You people need to wake up to what the real world is like. This isn't the MCU where the bad guys where a certain color pattern.
I've been binge-watching you lately, Mr. Beat. The Supreme Court briefs are my favorite! Bringing up Korematsu v. United States was relevantly fantastic, I studied the case several terms ago!
I knew you were gonna cover this ever since I heard it on Korematsu v. US. Also I think we can all agree the justices ruled based on their political views.
Yeah I hate how the Supreme Court is treated by politicians. And they’ve been treating it like this since the beginning of the country. Honestly something outa change that.
@@moses4769 The midnight judges which John Adams appointed around 1800 were all entirely federalists who followed Adam’s politics. Judges had been put in place to follow political beliefs only 24 years after its founding. So yeah I would say since the beginning.
I’m fairly sure the ban wasn’t explicitly aimed at Muslims, but rather, at a specific set of countries. It just so happened, however, that these countries targeted in the ban were predominantly Muslim. If it was a Muslim ban, as critics stated, then why were countries such as Indonesia, which has a huge Muslim population - larger than that of many countries in the Middle East - not included in the ban? Having said that, it could be argued that the ban, by being targeted at countries that were overwhelmingly Muslim, did indirectly represent a Muslim ban, but the ban wasn’t a ban on all Muslims or Muslims as a whole, but rather, Muslims from those specific countries listed in the ban. TLDR: It’s a country ban for certain countries, not a ban on Islam or Muslims in general, although by being a country ban, it is effectively a Muslim ban for the Muslim citizens of those countries affected by the ban.
But those countries aren't active warzones. People are perfectly fine where they live unless there is extreme circumstances like war, famine, natural disaster, genocide, etc. Mass Migration comes from nations that are in turmoil. Which most of these countries are. Syria- civil war, Iraq- Acitive terrorist orginization, Iran-self explanitory, Yemen- famine and civil war, Libya- Slavery, Civil war, famine.
During the campaign trail, Donald Trump explicitly called for: "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on." This actual ban we got was a compromise, since you'd have to be a nitwit to want all Muslims banned from traveling to the US, but the intent to make it difficult for Muslims to enter the US is clearly there. I have a hard time believing that this was an instance where "it just so happened" that the populations are majority Muslim. It's like with the grandfather clause in the Jim Crow South where to bypass poll taxes and literacy tests, one just had to prove their grandfather could vote. Sure, it's not explicitly denying blacks the right to vote, but considering it unreasonably and so disproportionately harms blacks, you can't say of the grandfather clause "it just so happens" to disenfranchise the black community disproportionately.
A normal part of immigration involves conducting a background check, and this will often include asking the home country for certain types of information, namely the potential immigrant's criminal history within that country. But this only really works if the new country can trust the home country's government to reveal an accurate-enough picture of the individual. Just as an example, suppose the Colombian government proritizes prosecution of non-cartel members over prosecution of cartel members. Perhaps the cartel buys off local judges or something, and can thus commit crimes with no record. Then the US has good reason not to trust that a Colombian immigrant with no criminal record isn't going to commit major cartel-related crimes.
@@chraman169 if you live in America, how could it make you feel safer? when was the last time any of these wars happened on American soil? we Americans never have to actually deal with war. this idea that Muslim country immigrants made us less “safe” is unsupported and ignorant of what goes on domestically in terms of terrorism.
@@rni4069 the idea was originally proposed by the obama administration due to concerns over isis, which is perfectly justifiable considering how common islamic terrorist attacks were becoming in western nations at that time.
@@chraman169 Hang on, even Muslims view it as dangerous places as well? Judging by the current situation nowadays, I think in the end, they got a whole new problem and one of the travel banned countries ended up causing problems, probably like he predicted it and knew it’d be safer for citizens.
Why were Hawaii and Washington the ones to sue and not any individual who was actually affected by the ban? Where did the legal standing for these states to sue come from?
The 11th Amendment is actually about people suing a state they don't live in or foreigners suing states. The 11th Amendment didn't apply here. States just often have an easier time taking things to court
I'll never forget living through the Trump Administration and all his tweets. I never thought a person born in the 40s would have a bigger social media presence than myself born in the 80s, oh and he's the President of the United States. A wild time that got progressively worse towards the end.
Great as always, but how did this "kind of overrule the Korematsu" case? I feel like there's more about that and Sotomayor's dissent that could be gone into further.
To he honest, when I saw on Wikipedia that it was "over ruled", I was like what? K vs US details with the notion that the president or government can detain citizens based on race or religion, if perceived as a threat to the country. Here in Trump vs Hawaii, it deals with the president and government being allowed to prevent foreigners if their nation is deemed a threat or risky for allowing travel from there.
@@greatkentuckian9032 Obviously, the cases themselves will be different but the principle remains the same: The President has been granted the power to restrict a certain demographic's movements in and out of the country if they are deemed to be a threat to national security. The slippery slope that people refer to is the challenge of defining the boundaries of such executive orders? For argument's sake, if Biden was to restrict the travel of ALL Eastern Europeans for the next 5 years within the country due to the ongoing war, would it or not be justified under the pretense of national security? Under Trump v. Hawaii, it could very well be. How many legal hurdles are there to prevent another suspension of Habeas Corpus and their right to due process (for these Eastern Europeans) if it's donde under the pretense of national security?
Me (a Sudanese) after learning that Trump made it extremely hard for foreign nationals & refugees of Sudan to enter the United States (and also applied it to other Muslim-Majority Countries but I’m more focused on Sudan): 😢😭
You can travel to another western nation instead. The problem isn’t you. It’s the country itself and the unreliable info they have on their people. We don’t know if travelers are tourists, are looking to live here permanently, or if they’re planning on orchestrating a terrorist attack. We can’t risk our lives when the Islamic faith has core beliefs that non-believers (infidels) deserve death or how sacrificing one’s own life to take the lives of non-believers is honorable and will bring great rewards in the afterlife.
I vaguely remember at the time a point of contention was whether a textualist reading, ie only consider the text of relevant law and the executive order itself, or if a wider fount of information should be used that also included public statements of trump and other supporters of the EO. Did Hawaii vs. Trump come down to the liberal justices saying the latter which makes it a clear violation of the establishment clause and the conservative justices saying public comments are irrelevant which gave the trump admin the leeway to keep the EO standing?
We should actually encourage immigration from North Korea. Why? Do we want that regime to survive? Their biggest asset is their people and they don't want them to leave.
Could you consider covering Trump v. Thompson in this series? I think it’s an interesting case in terms of both the January 6th investigation and the controversy surrounding Clarence Thomas’ dissent in the case.
Yo, dude from Hawaii here, and we don't do much in the grand scheme of things with regards to driving the political direction of the States (four Electoral College votes, two Representatives). But when they threw down over the ban, I was very pleasantly surprised and proud. My first thought was "You tell em'!"
Beat, even though I might not agree with you on all of your political stances, I still respect the fact that you are discussing something so controversial in the modern-day and doing it without a hint of bias. Finally I can actually understand what the hell this was. You mentioned in another video that your agenda was "the truth," thank you for staying loyal to your word.
6:44 Question: was Korematsu v. USA ever overturned? It be very sad if it never was. I know the Concentration camps ended in 1945 and Japanese Americans got compensation in the 1980s (all great things) but what about this certain decision?
Korematsu v. United States was actually decided after the concentration camps were ended, and it was never officially overturned until Trump v. Hawaii.
They didnt consider the two other bans that focused on muslim dominated countries? Its clear what the intent of the third ban and why they suddenly included two other contries.
Yep, but it isn't the first time the Supreme Court has dismissed prior causes that have expired/no longer applicable while considering something clearly related as if it were the first of it's kind.
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv He didn't have to banned Indonesia when it was clear that he was banning majority Muslim countries. If he had always banned Venezuela and North Korea in all three executive orders, then yeah, it would have been a little less obvious, but isn't the smartest. Also, if it were just about terrorism, why didn't he banned Saudi Arabia? They are known for promoting it via their ideology of Wahhabism.
Another awesome video, what is your next Supreme Court briefs video, and how did Oliver Wendell Holmes not make your top 10 Supreme Court justices video and neither did Felix frankfurter.
@@iammrbeat if you do it though, you have to go all out and call it something like “the two Chinas compared”, or “Red China vs White China” or something. In this current phase of geopolitics, we can’t give the Communist regime in Beijing the legitimacy of being “China” without a qualifier. “Beijing” and “Taipei” suffice for a short name for each regime.
Judging by the specific countries he banned to me it seems more like countries that were unfriendly to US or in a state of near anarchy ban and had no power to retaliate against it. They just happen to be Muslim.
First and foremost there are videos of Trump himself saying it was a Muslim ban. To act as if these was for 'Security' reason is to say Jim crow laws were not about oppressing black people but protecting election integrity and southern institutions.
@@therightone5708 true but if it was a complete muslim ban why didnt he ban Indonesians which has the biggest muslim population in the world. Tbh I dont think Trump can point out Indonesia on a map anyway lol
I don’t think the travel ban was meant to target Muslims, since he only banned travel from a few countries that were known for either supporting terrorists, or just having a high level of terrorist activity in general. You can maybe argue that it is wrong for the president to ban travel in the first place, but saying that Trump was targeting Muslims isn’t really accurate.
All these countries were known for terrorist activities, on the list was also Cuba and Venezuela. If this were a real Muslim ban Nigeria, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Egypt would of been on the list, those are the top 6 Countries with the highest Muslim population totaling 1 Billion Muslims.
The largest religion in nigeria is christianity, not Islam. Also, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Egypt do not have any terrorist activity. Learn some basic knowledge, you moron.
This travel ban cost me 900€. I was in the US army stationed in Germany, decided I wanted to go to Istanbul on thanksgiving (turkey on turkey day)find out when I got there that turkey put a hold on giving Americans visas because of this travel ban… so I had to buy a ticket for the next flight back to Germany….between hotel, and 3 flights I lost 900€. But I got a cool story out of it, who else can say they were denied entry/kicked out of a country
It wasn’t a ban on Muslim countries just ones that were hostile towards the us or had terrorist cells besides he didn’t ban travel to Saudi Arabia , Jordian, Qatar , and 🇦🇪.
he would never ban SA or Qatar or the UAE, it’s insane to think that’s possible. just because he didn’t ban those countries doesn’t mean it wasn’t a Muslim ban. those countries are extremely different compared to the ones he banned. think oil and money, if you’re confused. ofc he’s not banning the richest countries in the ME.
I appreciate that you waited until after the so-called "Trump Era" was over before making this video. You waited long enough for it to become history. It's nice to look back on this to compare my memory of the events to how it all actually worked out in the courts. Favorite line in this video was the last one: "So ... for now, this video is pointless, at least until it maybe won't be one day." So true. 😃
Isn’t title 42 considered a travel ban due to what it does and how it’s currently being implemented not just under the Biden administration but also during the Trump administration when he implemented it at the beginning of the pandemic?
It was recently revoked because democrats can’t make up their minds on the severity of COVID-19. The department of justice overturning a federal court’s ruling to revoke mask mandates on planes but not requiring vaccines for illegal immigrants while allowing them to come into the country just shows how much of a joke this pandemic is.
as a Yemeni Im banned from going to the US, If I get the German passport I need a Visa because I was Yemeni. I was born in the UK but I would still need a visa as a german born in UK cuz I visited Yemen. So sad
There really is no set standard. The usual perception is that it lasts till the end of an administration or when it is nullified in writing by the succeeding administration. As far as I know, they last till nullified in writing.
That’s because of the hacktivist judges that climbed their way up there just to tear the constitution to shreds to advance DNC agendas. How disgraceful is it to see America-hating justices possess unearned titles of being “honorable” while they mascaraed their bias under the guise of impartiality. It goes to show how out of touch with reality these judges are when some of the Supreme Court justices question why the public has this perception that judges are politicians in robes and why this mindset should change without the people on the bench having to change.
Hey, Mr. Beat! Can you please do a Supreme Courts Briefs video on United States v. Paramount Pictures? I want to know how did various movie studios get sued over a monopoly of movie theaters they owned.
Even though I disagree with the ban, I think the court made the right decision here. Courts should be very reluctant to overturn laws or policies unless they’re blatantly unconstitutional or illegal in my opinion. If courts are too active in overturning laws then I believe that is undemocratic because you’re preventing the people (acting through their representatives) to pass the laws or policies they want to pass.
With the ban itself, I don’t see why it’s a crazy idea to temporarily suspend travel from nations that have unreliable background info on their own civilians and only allow people like US citizens to travel back to the country. If they want to seek refuge or simply move as a change of scenery, they can go to another country. I’m sure a European country will take them as asylum seekers, as many countries like Germany and Sweden even go out of their way to suppress negative info about Islamic terrorist attacks in their nation.
At the time, I was of the opinion that it was anti-Muslim sentiment driving it. And I still am. Keep in mind, Rudy Giuliani, Trump's legal counsel, stated that Trump asked him the legal way to do it. As far as I know, Trump didn't dispute that, but I could be wrong. Also, it wasn't on some leftist news network that claimed he said it, those were his exact words on Fox News. Combine that with Trump's outspoken anti-Muslim sentiment, and it's hard to draw other conclusions. Even after adding North Korea and Venezuela to the list, I wasn't convinced. It seemed like he only added them to make it look better. My opinion has not changed in the half decade since.
Well did you consider that most the Muslims in the area were not affected by the ban. If that was the case he would have banned the whole region. He asked Rudy how to do it legally meaning ban travel from these nations. Everyone forgets that these countries weren't picked by trump at all these were all the countries Obama said were linked to terrorism. So Obama lables these nations a terrorist threat. No bid deal. When trump bans people from these so called threats he's a bigot... it wasn't a Muslim ban it was a ban on the countries Obama had labeled terrorist threats.
In conclusion there was no proof he was targeting Muslims. That was the opinion of just 2 state level judges they didn't give any proof they said it was probably linked to trump being a bigot. That's not proof. But trump did have proof Obama labeled these countries a threat. Why the Supreme Court ruled the way they did.
@@steaksfromjakesfarm9907 What you said is only half true. Yes, the Obama administration did consider these countries as a places of concern, and instituted travel restrictions to these countries, and limited travel from these countries to active visas. However, at no point did Obama ever label these countries as linked to terrorism. In fact, only three of the countries, Iran, Sudan, and Syria, were labeled as state sponsoring terrorist, none of which were done during Obama's terms. Iran was 1984, Sudan was 1993, and Syria was 1979. But Obama's was easier to believe, because he didn't go on the campaign trail calling for a complete shut down on Muslims entering the country, something that Trump did constantly.
@@napalmblaziken Obama in 2015 put restrictions on travel to anyone who had visited more than 2 of these countries within a certain time. He said in his own words it was to "Address the growing threat of foreign terrorist fighters." Trump simply added to the ban Obama had put in place. It took 2 months after Obamas original ban to include all the nation's that were included in trumps ban. Trump simply removed a few caviots. Even dual citizens of 2 of these countries under Obama were banned from travel to the US. It was not a ban on Muslims it was in Obama words addressing the growing foreign terrorist threats in the region.
Sometimes the easiest/simplest paths aren’t the right paths and I when I says some times I mean MOST times cause getting done fast should be no excuse for getting it done right
(As a lefty) it’s NOT a Muslim ban. The world’s biggest Muslim population is in Indonesia and he didn’t target it. Dude only targeted actually dangerous policies and this was a “trump bad” move. 2020 was close because we focused too much on his personality rather than his actual poor policy (this in my opinion for the time not being one, though since isis isn’t a threat to the us mainland anymore I understand Biden repealing it)
That poor policy netted the United States the lowest African American and Hispanic unemployment in American history. Trump also reduced illegal immigration to the lowest in 50 years. Compare THAT to the nightmare we're living through today. (As a righty) you're (obviously) right about the 'Muslim ban'. btw, drop the 'Ukrainian Flag' colors. It makes you look like a virtue signaling tool.
Should be up to Congress to legislate travel bans, not the President. The President doesn’t have the authority to take in as many refugees as he sees, why should he have the authority to ban people? Also how does this law not violate the immigration act by basically locking out people from certain countries from requesting asylum?
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I'm from Iraq, and back in 2014 I was awarded a scholarship and given the choice to study in the US or UK, I asked around and it quickly became obvious that a US visa, even for students, is a nightmare, many students had to wait for months only for their visas to be refused for no apparent reason other than them being Iraqi, I picked the UK to save myself the trouble, but it goes to show that even in Obama's era getting into the US for Iraqis wasn't easy at all!
Also there aren’t guns in the UK
It's a shame our system is so broken. Hope you're doing well in the UK
Tell your friends
Thanks for sharing your experience. More people need to hear about it.
Shhh, don’t say Obama or else the left will attack you
By the way, if anyone is wondering why Sudan disappeared on the third travel ban: After Sudan’s cooperation with the US government on national security and information-sharing, they were not included on the third wave of restrictions.
Thanks for bringing this up!
@@iammrbeat wb iraq?
Arrows.
Wudan
Basically it was puppeted
I'd love to see you do a video about executive orders throughout American history. It's wild how powerful they have become when they're not even really in the Constitution.
Great suggestion!
@@iammrbeat Hi Mr Beat two things. The first is I am actually a third cousin of sonya sotomayor although I disagree with most of her politics. The second is a few months back I suggesting doing a video on the presidents before Washington, the presidents of the continental congress I would love if you could do that,
They’re in there for times of extreme crisis, like rebellion and wartime. That was actually the legal basis for the Emancipation Proclamation.
But the way they’re used today is definitely unconstitutional and greatly undermine our republican institutions.
colored people shouldnt be allowed
i wonder how you'll react when you realize that judicial review isn't even in the constitution.
Going to be honest, I think it's a perfectly reasonable power for the president to place travel bans on countries that are considered a threat to national security. I do think congress should make regulations on that power, however, to limit the timeframe for which they stay in effect.
I think the pandemic was the greatest example of that. During the pandemic many countries placed travel bans on other countries they deemed high risk to stop the spread of COVID. I do think it needs restrictions though otherwise it’s just a free for all for a racist president to place travel bans on countries with people he deems “undesirable”
@@Sam-vy8ye Exactly, I think it's a reasonable power, but like everything it needs regulation so people don't use it for bigoted or authoritarian reasons
@@awesomezilla muslumz deroreests do be explodin tho
I agree
I agree with you, that the president should be able to do that however Congress has been waaay too lax on its responsibility to check the president on such questions. Hence why I think the power should be so limited that it forces Congress to actually pass a law affirming the order.
It's amazing how often foreign terrorists are brought up when the overwhelming majority of terrorist incidents are home grown
ABOUT TIME SOMEONE WROTE THIS COMMENT
And almost the majority are far right wing hate groups or nationalists
We need a travel ban against the residents of red states and other "shithole countries." 😂
@Christopher I Wolf what is a hippocrip? Some kind of Harry Potter house?
A hippocrip sounds like a gangster of the Congolese river valleys, about to beat up the gorillabloods.
Oh hell yeah! Ive been waiting for the next episode of Supreme court briefs!!!! Amazing content as always Mr. Beat!!!!
Thank you!
Keep up your Supreme Court Briefs series its helped me so much for my A.P. Classes and anything that helps me take on the College Board is doing a good thing
Yes
Anything to win the war against the College Board!
Glad to hear it! So have you taken AP Gov?
@@iammrbeat no I’m currently slogging my way through APUSH
@@iammrbeat I’m taking it right now, and these videos are incredibly helpful with remembering the Supreme Court cases.
I'm really glad you covered this video. The Establishment Clause jurisprudence is confusing and frustrating enough for lawyers like myself to fully understand, let alone the average person on youtube. I'm glad it's getting some coverage here to educate civics-minded individuals
Thank you Chuck Norris
@@iammrbeat I think I also should be clear that I made this RUclips account when I was kid, hence why my username is Chuck Norris. I promise that I am not actually him lol; I just leave it as a fun reminder of simpler days
Ok, hold up ..this video (and all the others on this channel) are not pointless. I always learn something.
Well that makes me happy to hear 😊
@@iammrbeat I still can't believe you said your video was pointless. As a former Patreon supporter I'm deeply offended.
lol nah, just playin'
7:44 lower courts are bound to follow supreme Court precedent. So if a similar issue arises, they should follow the framework of Hawaii v. Trump. This video explains what is now legal precedent and is very useful
which is actually horrifying
@@A2forty I do not think so. The government simply has to justify the law on a rational basis standard of review as there there no was constitutional right being infringed. However, I think the denial of foreigners who had visas of some sort fails the rational basis test. I mean, they were already vetted and processed.
@OmarOsman98 he finds it horrifying because anti Americans can't come into our country. This video explains how trump's order couldn't have been discriminatory because there were some Islamic countries that weren't even included in the travel bans.
Semantics, but the definition you provided for "foreign national" is slightly misleading. The location of the foreign national is technically irrelevant as the term is relativistic. To the United States government, a French citizen is a "foreign national" regardless of whether they are standing in France or any other country. Especially when it comes to laws and regulations in the United States, a Foreign National is simply defined as someone that is not a US citizen or national.
Fair point
technically yes but i mean foreign has become a buzzword of extreme disapproval. now it means “any minority we do not like”. you are right and it does completely mean that but societally speakin its adopted different names
@@supremecud147 not really. Sure the word “foreign” has gained a negative connotation in the US, however that has no effect on the term “foreign national”
@@Col_Crunch i disagree. i think the ignorant populace would say otherwise
@@supremecud147 I doubt that. I think even some room-temp IQs could put 2 and 2 together and arrive at “person from another country”
A friend of mine was traveling to Israel in the summer of 2017. But there were some countries she couldn’t fly into as a stop over because of the travel ban.
Geez, the libertarian in me just cringed reading that
hence why travel bans are really stupid and a gross overreach of power
Another great video Mr. Beat, would’ve been great to have you as a teacher 👍
I appreciate the kind words!
@@iammrbeat You remind me of the Creepy porn lawyer. 😳
These are awesome. Keep ‘em coming.
Thank you!
you should do Department of Commerce v New York, the SCOTUS case from 2019 about Trump’s attempt to put a citizenship question on the US census form
Great suggestion
Which of the following Supreme Court cases should I cover for this series next?
Mahanoy Area School District v. B.L.
Burwell v. Hobby Lobby
Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission
The Switch In Time That Saved Nine, West Coast Hotel Co. v Parrish
Of the ones you listed, I vote for Mahanoy Area School District v. B.L.
United States v. Martinez-Fuerte. Border Patrol keeps citing that case as justification for their checkpoints, so would be nice to have a video to see what that case was all about.
Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission
Burwell V. Hobby Lobby
Baker v. Carr, while redistricting is still relevant.
Out of the three, I'd say Mahanoy.
Love your work, Mr. Beat. I love how deftly you approach such sensitive topics!
Thank you!
I’m taking AP government right now and a test is coming up on the courts can u keep talking about them cause I can actually learn from ur videos
Absolutely
Hey Mr. Beat, love these scotus vids and I just wish I saw them when I was in hs. Could you put Massachusetts v EPA somewhere on your list for upcoming vids? I’m doing an article on environmental law in the us and it’d make my day if you saw this :)
Thanks for making history and civics lessons enjoyable 🙏
Another Supreme Court Briefs! Oh what a wonderful day
:)
Love you Mr beat! They couldn't ban us from traveling to your RUclips channel!
haha thank you!
This man teaches me better that my own teacher AND makes it ten times better!
Great video again! It's very informative and easy to understand :)
I don't know if you made a video about this yet, or have been suggested those things, but I think a video about the impeached presidents and why they were impeached (what led up to it and what happened after it, etc.) would be very interesting
Great suggestion and thanks for the kind words!
Thank you for adding subtitles to your most of your videos, it helps a lot!
The ban should've failed not because it targets Muslims, but that it has no expiry date. Executive orders like these should be temporary in nature, and should only include enough time for Congress (if it agrees with the threat assessment) to draft legislation in order to make them permanent.
Being Muslim from Pakistan with relatives in US from both my parent's family Trump was an interesting talking subject. Thanks for video Mr. Beat and happy Ramadan
Hard to trust you guys these days
@@karankapoor2701 racist much?
@@samkhodabakhshzadeh7244 Is islam a race?
@@boxysilkworm no but being discriminatory to Pakistanis is racist. what a terrible gotcha.
@@samkhodabakhshzadeh7244 Yes. Those toilet cleaners who sympathise with jihadist groups and declared Osama bin Laden a martyr. The same peacefuls whining about human rights in Kashmir and secularism in non-muslim countries while persecuting Hindus in their country.
Trump v Hawaii is pretty significant in how the conservative legal movement viewed nationwide injunctions. Before this case, nationwide injunctions weren't too controversial (or headline-making for that matter) but this case made the right believe that they were disproportionately handicapped by nationwide injunctions and thus started criticizing the concept. Any activist could file a case in a favorable district court and enjoin enforcement everywhere in the country. Of course, this applies as much to conservatives suing over liberal policies on oil regulations and fun control (as examples), but Trump v Hawaii created the perception it mainly helped liberals.
There's a similar complex with progressives and SCOTUS's emergency docket, but that's for another video/comment.
It’s so weird to think about this as Supreme Court history but it is.
Very obvious that he only added Venezuela and North Korea because they're boogeymen. No one is coming to the United States from North Korea, and I could imagine that travel rates for Venezuela weren't exactly too high either. But, by adding them, he was able to pull off his "national security" argument.
You people really think he was trying to stop literal armies from those countries and not spies, sleeper cells, propagandists, tech saboteurs, etc? You people need to wake up to what the real world is like. This isn't the MCU where the bad guys where a certain color pattern.
I've been binge-watching you lately, Mr. Beat. The Supreme Court briefs are my favorite! Bringing up Korematsu v. United States was relevantly fantastic, I studied the case several terms ago!
Korematsu is not and will never be American. Japanese aren’t Americans.
Hawaii is one my most favorite US state so any topic related to will interest me and this is a really interesting one of learn about
I still haven't been!
I’m from Jersey but Hawaii seems like a great place to be
Yes
The history is sad :(
Nah. Stay away from our country. You’re thinking of Canada. You actually like Canada. And British Columbia is your favorite province.
I knew you were gonna cover this ever since I heard it on Korematsu v. US. Also I think we can all agree the justices ruled based on their political views.
I would agree with that
Yeah I hate how the Supreme Court is treated by politicians. And they’ve been treating it like this since the beginning of the country. Honestly something outa change that.
@@benson5296 I wouldn't say since the beginning of the country, but definitely these past years.
@@moses4769 The midnight judges which John Adams appointed around 1800 were all entirely federalists who followed Adam’s politics. Judges had been put in place to follow political beliefs only 24 years after its founding. So yeah I would say since the beginning.
He didn’t cover Korematsu vs US because Korematsu isn’t American.
Hey! I don’t think you may have noticed, but the map at 0:57 highlights Djibouti as a part of Somalia.
I’m fairly sure the ban wasn’t explicitly aimed at Muslims, but rather, at a specific set of countries. It just so happened, however, that these countries targeted in the ban were predominantly Muslim. If it was a Muslim ban, as critics stated, then why were countries such as Indonesia, which has a huge Muslim population - larger than that of many countries in the Middle East - not included in the ban? Having said that, it could be argued that the ban, by being targeted at countries that were overwhelmingly Muslim, did indirectly represent a Muslim ban, but the ban wasn’t a ban on all Muslims or Muslims as a whole, but rather, Muslims from those specific countries listed in the ban.
TLDR: It’s a country ban for certain countries, not a ban on Islam or Muslims in general, although by being a country ban, it is effectively a Muslim ban for the Muslim citizens of those countries affected by the ban.
But those countries aren't active warzones. People are perfectly fine where they live unless there is extreme circumstances like war, famine, natural disaster, genocide, etc. Mass Migration comes from nations that are in turmoil. Which most of these countries are. Syria- civil war, Iraq- Acitive terrorist orginization, Iran-self explanitory, Yemen- famine and civil war, Libya- Slavery, Civil war, famine.
During the campaign trail, Donald Trump explicitly called for: "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on."
This actual ban we got was a compromise, since you'd have to be a nitwit to want all Muslims banned from traveling to the US, but the intent to make it difficult for Muslims to enter the US is clearly there. I have a hard time believing that this was an instance where "it just so happened" that the populations are majority Muslim. It's like with the grandfather clause in the Jim Crow South where to bypass poll taxes and literacy tests, one just had to prove their grandfather could vote. Sure, it's not explicitly denying blacks the right to vote, but considering it unreasonably and so disproportionately harms blacks, you can't say of the grandfather clause "it just so happens" to disenfranchise the black community disproportionately.
A normal part of immigration involves conducting a background check, and this will often include asking the home country for certain types of information, namely the potential immigrant's criminal history within that country. But this only really works if the new country can trust the home country's government to reveal an accurate-enough picture of the individual. Just as an example, suppose the Colombian government proritizes prosecution of non-cartel members over prosecution of cartel members. Perhaps the cartel buys off local judges or something, and can thus commit crimes with no record. Then the US has good reason not to trust that a Colombian immigrant with no criminal record isn't going to commit major cartel-related crimes.
As a muslim I'll go with no, it didn't. Those were high-risk areas, not all were muslim. I was glad it happened and supported it.
Why were you happy with it?
@@iammrbeat It made me feel safer. I come from around that corner and I know from first hand experience what's it like
@@chraman169 if you live in America, how could it make you feel safer? when was the last time any of these wars happened on American soil? we Americans never have to actually deal with war.
this idea that Muslim country immigrants made us less “safe” is unsupported and ignorant of what goes on domestically in terms of terrorism.
@@rni4069 the idea was originally proposed by the obama administration due to concerns over isis, which is perfectly justifiable considering how common islamic terrorist attacks were becoming in western nations at that time.
@@chraman169 Hang on, even Muslims view it as dangerous places as well? Judging by the current situation nowadays, I think in the end, they got a whole new problem and one of the travel banned countries ended up causing problems, probably like he predicted it and knew it’d be safer for citizens.
Badly need more of Supreme Court Briefs.
Ok then 😊
I once again ask Mr Beat to make a series about landmark Congress decisions named “Congress Boxers”
lol not a bad idea at all actually
A supreme court brief that happened within the last 5 year. I think this may be a first.
This is my favorite series on this channel
this might sound like an exaggeration but i actually screamed reading the notification lmao
I’ve been upset today so this definitely boosted my mood :D you know it’s a good day after Mr. Beat posts something
lol that's quite amazing
@@PremierCCGuyMMXVI same, I was upset when I came back from school and this helped :)
All of these courts made the decision based on politics.
Why were Hawaii and Washington the ones to sue and not any individual who was actually affected by the ban? Where did the legal standing for these states to sue come from?
I think it's because the 11th amendment doesn't allow non-citizens to sue in the U.S, and this ban doesn't affect citizens.
@@alonkatz4633 Ooooh I did not know that, thank you for enlightening me lol
@@Ryan_Alwi You're welcome.
The 11th Amendment is actually about people suing a state they don't live in or foreigners suing states. The 11th Amendment didn't apply here. States just often have an easier time taking things to court
Ok then
I'll never forget living through the Trump Administration and all his tweets. I never thought a person born in the 40s would have a bigger social media presence than myself born in the 80s, oh and he's the President of the United States. A wild time that got progressively worse towards the end.
Those muh mean tweets and muh trump social media arguments. There’s tons of problems to criticize trump for. The muh social media excuse isn’t it.
@@Raspberries9372except it is you clown
Man, I haven't thought of Rex Tillerson in a long time. That's some top-notch research
lol
Great as always, but how did this "kind of overrule the Korematsu" case? I feel like there's more about that and Sotomayor's dissent that could be gone into further.
To he honest, when I saw on Wikipedia that it was "over ruled", I was like what? K vs US details with the notion that the president or government can detain citizens based on race or religion, if perceived as a threat to the country. Here in Trump vs Hawaii, it deals with the president and government being allowed to prevent foreigners if their nation is deemed a threat or risky for allowing travel from there.
@@greatkentuckian9032 Obviously, the cases themselves will be different but the principle remains the same: The President has been granted the power to restrict a certain demographic's movements in and out of the country if they are deemed to be a threat to national security.
The slippery slope that people refer to is the challenge of defining the boundaries of such executive orders? For argument's sake, if Biden was to restrict the travel of ALL Eastern Europeans for the next 5 years within the country due to the ongoing war, would it or not be justified under the pretense of national security? Under Trump v. Hawaii, it could very well be. How many legal hurdles are there to prevent another suspension of Habeas Corpus and their right to due process (for these Eastern Europeans) if it's donde under the pretense of national security?
Why would Biden lift the act? I’d like to have it rather than not to have it.
What difference did the executive action actually make?
@@iammrbeat Can't really tell because we have title 42 still
that was a blast from the past, its strange how something that happened merely 5 years ago seems like a decade ago.
They should bring the Orange guy back
Garfield?
@@iammrbeat Garfield the cat would make a better POTUS. We all need a nap. 😃
@@iammrbeat which of them?
I didn't know that they used Korematsu V. US. That makes it so much worse.
Me (a Sudanese) after learning that Trump made it extremely hard for foreign nationals & refugees of Sudan to enter the United States (and also applied it to other Muslim-Majority Countries but I’m more focused on Sudan): 😢😭
You can travel to another western nation instead.
The problem isn’t you. It’s the country itself and the unreliable info they have on their people. We don’t know if travelers are tourists, are looking to live here permanently, or if they’re planning on orchestrating a terrorist attack.
We can’t risk our lives when the Islamic faith has core beliefs that non-believers (infidels) deserve death or how sacrificing one’s own life to take the lives of non-believers is honorable and will bring great rewards in the afterlife.
@@UndertakerU2ber uneducated
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Very informative! Keep it up Mr Beat
I vaguely remember at the time a point of contention was whether a textualist reading, ie only consider the text of relevant law and the executive order itself, or if a wider fount of information should be used that also included public statements of trump and other supporters of the EO.
Did Hawaii vs. Trump come down to the liberal justices saying the latter which makes it a clear violation of the establishment clause and the conservative justices saying public comments are irrelevant which gave the trump admin the leeway to keep the EO standing?
We should actually encourage immigration from North Korea.
Why? Do we want that regime to survive? Their biggest asset is their people and they don't want them to leave.
because they can't leave their country and if they're caught leaving the country they're beaten killed or sent re educational camp or all 3
No north Korean can see your encouragement anyways, they only have like, 1 TV channel and newspaper
Could you consider covering Trump v. Thompson in this series? I think it’s an interesting case in terms of both the January 6th investigation and the controversy surrounding Clarence Thomas’ dissent in the case.
Yo, dude from Hawaii here, and we don't do much in the grand scheme of things with regards to driving the political direction of the States (four Electoral College votes, two Representatives). But when they threw down over the ban, I was very pleasantly surprised and proud. My first thought was "You tell em'!"
I remember the first ban like it was yesterday. It was the week after he got inaugurated.
Beat, even though I might not agree with you on all of your political stances, I still respect the fact that you are discussing something so controversial in the modern-day and doing it without a hint of bias. Finally I can actually understand what the hell this was.
You mentioned in another video that your agenda was "the truth," thank you for staying loyal to your word.
6:44 Question: was Korematsu v. USA ever overturned? It be very sad if it never was. I know the Concentration camps ended in 1945 and Japanese Americans got compensation in the 1980s (all great things) but what about this certain decision?
Korematsu v. United States was actually decided after the concentration camps were ended, and it was never officially overturned until Trump v. Hawaii.
Not technically according to some legal scholars, but I think there's a strong argument this case did overturn it
Fred Korematsu was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Bill Clinton in 1998.
@@iammrbeat
But how did it do that exactly?🤨
Japanese aren’t Americans. Stop calling them that.
They didnt consider the two other bans that focused on muslim dominated countries? Its clear what the intent of the third ban and why they suddenly included two other contries.
Yep, but it isn't the first time the Supreme Court has dismissed prior causes that have expired/no longer applicable while considering something clearly related as if it were the first of it's kind.
He didn't ban the most Muslim country on the planet: Indonesia. All the countries he banned were horribly unstable or promoted terrorism (Iran)
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He didn't have to banned Indonesia when it was clear that he was banning majority Muslim countries.
If he had always banned Venezuela and North Korea in all three executive orders, then yeah, it would have been a little less obvious, but isn't the smartest.
Also, if it were just about terrorism, why didn't he banned Saudi Arabia? They are known for promoting it via their ideology of Wahhabism.
You should check out the song “Dear Justice Letter” by Fugazi, it was released in the early 90s as a fair well letter to Justice Brennan.
Another awesome video, what is your next Supreme Court briefs video, and how did Oliver Wendell Holmes not make your top 10 Supreme Court justices video and neither did Felix frankfurter.
Well they both were great. Perhaps I can answer that in an upcoming livestream?
@@iammrbeat Great.
Great video! Can you do a video on China and Taiwan compared?
Great suggestion!
@@iammrbeat if you do it though, you have to go all out and call it something like “the two Chinas compared”, or “Red China vs White China” or something. In this current phase of geopolitics, we can’t give the Communist regime in Beijing the legitimacy of being “China” without a qualifier. “Beijing” and “Taipei” suffice for a short name for each regime.
Judging by the specific countries he banned to me it seems more like countries that were unfriendly to US or in a state of near anarchy ban and had no power to retaliate against it. They just happen to be Muslim.
Then there should have been a Russian ban…
@@miz_logo_lee There was already a ban on Russia from 2014.
First and foremost there are videos of Trump himself saying it was a Muslim ban. To act as if these was for 'Security' reason is to say Jim crow laws were not about oppressing black people but protecting election integrity and southern institutions.
It's amazing more countries weren't on the list, to be honest
@@therightone5708 true but if it was a complete muslim ban why didnt he ban Indonesians which has the biggest muslim population in the world. Tbh I dont think Trump can point out Indonesia on a map anyway lol
He actually made the supreme court case I wanted he referenced in Korematsu v. United States! I wanted that episode!
No. He didn’t do that because Korematsu isn’t American.
It isn't about Muslim. It is about security.......... from Muslims.
Because Muslims are dangerous. And you’re not in the US. You’re in India. This video is for AMERICANS.
Yes! I've been waiting for this video! Very interesting topic, good video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don’t think the travel ban was meant to target Muslims, since he only banned travel from a few countries that were known for either supporting terrorists, or just having a high level of terrorist activity in general. You can maybe argue that it is wrong for the president to ban travel in the first place, but saying that Trump was targeting Muslims isn’t really accurate.
This is my favorite series! Great content!
What do you think about doing "Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents"?
All these countries were known for terrorist
activities, on the list was also Cuba and Venezuela.
If this were a real Muslim ban Nigeria,
Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Egypt
would of been on the list, those are the top 6 Countries
with the highest Muslim population totaling 1 Billion Muslims.
The largest religion in nigeria is christianity, not Islam. Also, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Egypt do not have any terrorist activity. Learn some basic knowledge, you moron.
Especially Indonesia
This travel ban cost me 900€. I was in the US army stationed in Germany, decided I wanted to go to Istanbul on thanksgiving (turkey on turkey day)find out when I got there that turkey put a hold on giving Americans visas because of this travel ban… so I had to buy a ticket for the next flight back to Germany….between hotel, and 3 flights I lost 900€. But I got a cool story out of it, who else can say they were denied entry/kicked out of a country
NGL. Kind of odd seeing something that happened in my Highschool days being presented in a historical context.
I guess you're getting up there in age now, aren't you, old man? :)
I'm in the same boat here
Anybody coming from North Korea should be allowed in any day of the week
It wasn’t a ban on Muslim countries just ones that were hostile towards the us or had terrorist cells besides he didn’t ban travel to Saudi Arabia , Jordian, Qatar , and 🇦🇪.
he would never ban SA or Qatar or the UAE, it’s insane to think that’s possible. just because he didn’t ban those countries doesn’t mean it wasn’t a Muslim ban. those countries are extremely different compared to the ones he banned. think oil and money, if you’re confused. ofc he’s not banning the richest countries in the ME.
I appreciate that you waited until after the so-called "Trump Era" was over before making this video. You waited long enough for it to become history. It's nice to look back on this to compare my memory of the events to how it all actually worked out in the courts. Favorite line in this video was the last one: "So ... for now, this video is pointless, at least until it maybe won't be one day." So true. 😃
Didn't Obama have a similar travel ban for these exact countries?
Good video Senõr Beat!
Thank you Keith!
Isn’t title 42 considered a travel ban due to what it does and how it’s currently being implemented not just under the Biden administration but also during the Trump administration when he implemented it at the beginning of the pandemic?
title 42 only prohibits travel to those who have a communicable disease. it has to be done in order to keep the country safe.
Indeed, one deals with public health, the other deals with the much more vague "national security"
It was recently revoked because democrats can’t make up their minds on the severity of COVID-19. The department of justice overturning a federal court’s ruling to revoke mask mandates on planes but not requiring vaccines for illegal immigrants while allowing them to come into the country just shows how much of a joke this pandemic is.
Thumbs up for the preview video bonk that plays when you hover over the thumbnail.
That was a good snippet YT chose :)
as a Yemeni Im banned from going to the US, If I get the German passport I need a Visa because I was Yemeni.
I was born in the UK but I would still need a visa as a german born in UK cuz I visited Yemen.
So sad
Goodness, that really sucks
You should be supporting the Houthis. Do not pretend that you hate islamists.
This series is underrated.
strict immigration is a good thing
1.A pretty commendable production, volume & narration, style of humour, creativity.
One question Matt, how long typically does an Executive Order stay in effect for? Do some last longer than others?
There really is no set standard. The usual perception is that it lasts till the end of an administration or when it is nullified in writing by the succeeding administration. As far as I know, they last till nullified in writing.
Oh I have been waiting for this one!
Thanks for being here early
Trump's travel ban almost mirrored that of Obama.
history is never pointless. go beat go.
The 9th Circuit court of appeals is nicknamed, “The 9th Circus”. Close to 90% of all cases from that court are overturned
That’s because of the hacktivist judges that climbed their way up there just to tear the constitution to shreds to advance DNC agendas. How disgraceful is it to see America-hating justices possess unearned titles of being “honorable” while they mascaraed their bias under the guise of impartiality. It goes to show how out of touch with reality these judges are when some of the Supreme Court justices question why the public has this perception that judges are politicians in robes and why this mindset should change without the people on the bench having to change.
Yea it's a liberal hack court
Hey, Mr. Beat! Can you please do a Supreme Courts Briefs video on United States v. Paramount Pictures? I want to know how did various movie studios get sued over a monopoly of movie theaters they owned.
Even though I disagree with the ban, I think the court made the right decision here. Courts should be very reluctant to overturn laws or policies unless they’re blatantly unconstitutional or illegal in my opinion. If courts are too active in overturning laws then I believe that is undemocratic because you’re preventing the people (acting through their representatives) to pass the laws or policies they want to pass.
With the ban itself, I don’t see why it’s a crazy idea to temporarily suspend travel from nations that have unreliable background info on their own civilians and only allow people like US citizens to travel back to the country.
If they want to seek refuge or simply move as a change of scenery, they can go to another country. I’m sure a European country will take them as asylum seekers, as many countries like Germany and Sweden even go out of their way to suppress negative info about Islamic terrorist attacks in their nation.
Haven’t seen my family since 2018 cause I’m worried I wouldn’t be able to renew the visa which happened to others
At the time, I was of the opinion that it was anti-Muslim sentiment driving it. And I still am. Keep in mind, Rudy Giuliani, Trump's legal counsel, stated that Trump asked him the legal way to do it. As far as I know, Trump didn't dispute that, but I could be wrong. Also, it wasn't on some leftist news network that claimed he said it, those were his exact words on Fox News. Combine that with Trump's outspoken anti-Muslim sentiment, and it's hard to draw other conclusions. Even after adding North Korea and Venezuela to the list, I wasn't convinced. It seemed like he only added them to make it look better. My opinion has not changed in the half decade since.
Well did you consider that most the Muslims in the area were not affected by the ban. If that was the case he would have banned the whole region. He asked Rudy how to do it legally meaning ban travel from these nations. Everyone forgets that these countries weren't picked by trump at all these were all the countries Obama said were linked to terrorism. So Obama lables these nations a terrorist threat. No bid deal. When trump bans people from these so called threats he's a bigot... it wasn't a Muslim ban it was a ban on the countries Obama had labeled terrorist threats.
In conclusion there was no proof he was targeting Muslims. That was the opinion of just 2 state level judges they didn't give any proof they said it was probably linked to trump being a bigot. That's not proof. But trump did have proof Obama labeled these countries a threat. Why the Supreme Court ruled the way they did.
As a Muslim American I agree with you
@@steaksfromjakesfarm9907 What you said is only half true. Yes, the Obama administration did consider these countries as a places of concern, and instituted travel restrictions to these countries, and limited travel from these countries to active visas. However, at no point did Obama ever label these countries as linked to terrorism. In fact, only three of the countries, Iran, Sudan, and Syria, were labeled as state sponsoring terrorist, none of which were done during Obama's terms. Iran was 1984, Sudan was 1993, and Syria was 1979. But Obama's was easier to believe, because he didn't go on the campaign trail calling for a complete shut down on Muslims entering the country, something that Trump did constantly.
@@napalmblaziken Obama in 2015 put restrictions on travel to anyone who had visited more than 2 of these countries within a certain time. He said in his own words it was to "Address the growing threat of foreign terrorist fighters." Trump simply added to the ban Obama had put in place. It took 2 months after Obamas original ban to include all the nation's that were included in trumps ban. Trump simply removed a few caviots. Even dual citizens of 2 of these countries under Obama were banned from travel to the US. It was not a ban on Muslims it was in Obama words addressing the growing foreign terrorist threats in the region.
Sometimes the easiest/simplest paths aren’t the right paths and I when I says some times I mean MOST times cause getting done fast should be no excuse for getting it done right
Love this series
Thank you
I just searched electric needleroom band lol and it's a thing
(As a lefty) it’s NOT a Muslim ban. The world’s biggest Muslim population is in Indonesia and he didn’t target it. Dude only targeted actually dangerous policies and this was a “trump bad” move. 2020 was close because we focused too much on his personality rather than his actual poor policy (this in my opinion for the time not being one, though since isis isn’t a threat to the us mainland anymore I understand Biden repealing it)
I was also thinking about why wouldn't him also put other countries like Algeria Marroco Pakistan Saudi Arabia turkey Oman and jordan
I mostly agree with you
@@iammrbeat ily mr beat, been a fan for years
That poor policy netted the United States the lowest African American and Hispanic unemployment in American history. Trump also reduced illegal immigration to the lowest in 50 years.
Compare THAT to the nightmare we're living through today.
(As a righty) you're (obviously) right about the 'Muslim ban'.
btw, drop the 'Ukrainian Flag' colors. It makes you look like a virtue signaling tool.
Trump literally used the words Muslim ban.
Should be up to Congress to legislate travel bans, not the President. The President doesn’t have the authority to take in as many refugees as he sees, why should he have the authority to ban people?
Also how does this law not violate the immigration act by basically locking out people from certain countries from requesting asylum?
Yes it did
TLDR: wasn’t religiously motivated, and rather a smart move to encourage certain nations to be more transparent with information with The US.