UPDATED 2020 Cougar 22RBS Ultimate Half Ton Couple's King Bed Keystone Travel Trailer
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Josh, you are the best rv content provider on YT.
Been looking at this camper for two years and it just gets better every year. I will retire in one when I finish my sentence in the working world. Love this camper.
Agreed. This is one on my person "if it was just me and the wife in 10 years" campers.
The easy towing small size and GOBS of prep & storage space are awesome
We just purchased Rockwood Mini Lite 2016 Couples Camper floor plan the same as this Cougar, we are Retired, Decided to see what this Camping RV all about, were Newbies excited about our very First Trip to the Coastal area. I Love Listening to this Nerd Rv Josh, he very informative about The Rvs
We just purchased one of these in Sept. Used it two weekends in October....this is a great couples camper. Space, conveniences, comfort...the King bed really puts it over the top....we love it!!
Ed Kutz glad to hear you like it. Have you needed to do an overnight pit stop where you can’t leave the slide open? Were you able to access the bed? My husband & I really like this camper, but are concerned that a slide blocking the bed might not be conducive to those quick road stops on the way to destination.
@@kcoble70 you can't access the bed with the slide closed....but if you have the app on your phone, you can open it a little, go to the bed, and then close up again...or leave partially open. This camper is amazing....
Ed Kutz I like this unit too Over Winnebago Micro lite 2106FBS or
Rockwood Mini lite 2109S both similar sizes. Would consider cutting down the overhang on bar area flush to squeeze by to bed with slide closed.Don’t want to opem even a little when pulling over for a break.
I'm so glad to see your comment! My husband and I are looking at buying for the 1st time and I've been looking at everything out there. I'm weighing out pro's/con's etc and I too, really like this one as well, if it is just for a couple! I'd read, 'don't buy something with extra bunk's or this and that, thinking, well when the kid's come to visit' etc,.....it said, 'buy for 'you two' and what you need/want.' We both very much like the set up and atmosphere of this one! We have a Queen bed at home, so, the King would feel as it does when we're at a hotel :) Thanks!!!!!
Love the theatre seating and no dinette, a dinette is a waste of space for two people, plus they have always been uncomfortable to sit at and when its a bed, just horrible, love this layout!
Boy Josh love that king bed, what a perfect couples camper. Like the song by the Who in the 60's the Magic Bus, they sing , " I want it" " I want it" " I want it", but my banker sings ""You can't have it!"
Hahahaa
I finally got to see the Rockwood version of this and in my opinion the Cougar still wins my vote. The interior storage, lighting, and the huge windows are awesome. Love the interior. I look and look and always come back to this camper.
There's definitely "something in the water" on these. Can't fault you for taste!
Wow! That is the perfect couples caper for my use. More kitchen storage Good access with slide out when retracted. A window over the bed adding MUCH more light and visibility while inside. Larger wheels and tires. Non retractable tv antenna allowing much more room for solar panels on the roof. A ladder to access the roof (Is it walkable?) A shower rather than a tiny unusable tub, (Is there an outdoor shower? Important to me.) A clear window on the door, allowing you to see out before letting your pets out. More USB and plug sockets. Easily half ton towable. I replaced my dinette with similar Thomas Payne theater seating like the ones in the video and found them far more functional than the hideous dinette. When I have company, they get the bed and I sleep very comfortably reclined on the recliners. ***** from me!
*ROOF:* Absolutely walkable. Skip to the end of the video. I'm trotting all over it. I'm about 190lbs for reference. Not a small guy. It doesn't flex under me any time. I've actually noticed that double vaulted roof of a Cougar really does a dynamite job of distributing heavy loads.
*OUTDOOR SHOWER:* See that blue coil hose on the driver's side front corner.
Josh you are the Best! Thank you for being that RV Nerd, you always have detailed information on all these RVs Love your up Beat Personality! Were Newbies n Retired Couple just Bought a Rockwood Mini Lite 2016 2104S Murphy Bed, Excellent Condition hardly used totally upgraded. Were Ready to hit the Road for our very first Camping experience, next week, you are my GO TO RV GUY FOR Detailed Information. Or just to see all the other RVs your The Best Thank you Josh!
At first I read "beat up personality" and I was like "what?!" LOL :)
There is a reason I love watching your videos! If I’m thinking of a perfect rv, chances are you have an incredible video on just the thing I’m looking for! I feel silly admitting I watched a dozen other videos before watching yours but I know I can always count on you!
Listen... I don't care where you get your appetite as long as you come home for dinner!
Did you see the 2021 footage of this model? I *JUST* published it here ruclips.net/video/DMNTCnOxiuo/видео.html
I thought I was seeing double between the Coachman & Rockwood GEO-Pro with the same floor plan, but now I’m almost seeing triple!!! 😲 😯 😮
Referencing my reply from your previous post on the 192RBS Freedom Express: You're truly looking at 3 different size/levels of RVs here.
*COMPACT:* Geo Pro 19FBS. 7'4" Body, 20ft Long, East/West Bed. Built with the ability to easily park or dry camp any time.
*TRADITIONAL ULTRALITE:* Rockwood 2109S & Freedom Express 192RBS are similar layouts that each have standout qualities over the other. Rockwood tends to do a lot of enhanced small features while Freedom Express's value is larely found in the larger body & bed arrangements.
*ULTRALITE PLUS:* This Cougar 22RBS is like the 2109S/192RBS on steroids. Larger, more of everything, but the budget follows suit.
Another one you might enjoy is the Traditional Ultralite sister to this Cougar called the Passport 2210RB. You can see the cougar vs. passport here: bit.ly/2XVldNG
And the others compare here: bit.ly/2XPLrRK
Thanks for being so thorough in describing the features. It's educational when looking at different brands and models.
Happy to educate in return for the opportunity to earn your business when we're ready!
Very nice for a more compact camper. Like I have said in the past looking for a retirement trailer but also looking for something to just travel and see the sights. I can see carrying some items (tables, chairs, grill etc.) under the pickup cap that would make this one a fun one for those bounce and go trips yet also comfortable enough to stay for a while. Love it!
Don't get me wrong..these are beautiful state of the art trailers but camping aint camping any more...lol
I just bought a home in Manitouwadge (northern ontario Lake Superior country) We did a fishing trip into wabooskin lake and slept in 4 man canvas tents with a wood stove for heat..did all our meal prep over a roaring fire and the only luxury we had was a old brick oven made there at the site (we had biscuits with our moose stew!) The coffee was the best I have ever tasted as we filled our 5 gallon water jugs from a spring fed artesian well at the lake. THATS CAMPING!!...LOL OH AND WE JUST ABSOLUTELY KILLED THE PICKEREL AND LAKE TROUT!! You could never get a trailer into the places we go. 3/4 TON 4X4S then the ATVS and sometimes we have to make or repair our own trails and roads! These trailers 40k plus are for the well to dos that go to a full service campground and everyone tries to outdo everyone else's trailer..lol and heaven forbid if the fuckin T.V. aint workin...lol
lol -- times have definitely changed :)
Love the clear glass shower surround
Hi Josh! I have learned a lot watching your videos. This Cougar model is my favorite. I have two questions...
1. Why do they have the strip of carpet under the slide with the chairs? It would seem more consistent for the whole floor to be uncarpeted. You’ll need to bring a vacuum for just that little strip.
2. Can you replace the metal blinds in the kitchen with the same shades the other windows have? It would help to get the rv dark at night if all the windows had room darkening shades.
Thank you for your videos!
Judy D
*CARPET:* Best guess? "Because that's how we always did it." They *could* theoretically remove it, but their production team has allegedly been resistant to using laminate flooring in the slide due to extra time required per build.
*BLINDS:* They're metal for fire code reasons. You'll notice pretty much EVERY RV with any type of shade uses miniblinds by the stove for to meet code. Owners can do what they want with an RV once they own it, but the MFGs can't violate certain things.
Hi Josh I have been looking for trailers and I have to say your commentary on this cougar is outstanding. You go over the whole trailer top to bottom your even on the roof explaining all the nuts & bolts about it. Your very knowledgeable about this product good on you. Most videos are within 10 mins they kick the tires race go around the trailer not explaining everything. They run inside say nice floor plan open a few draws and of course they have to open the fridge & microwave and don't know what size they are. I'm a newbie and looking for my first trailer I have learned so much from you and keep on being funny it works!! You have sold me on this Cougar 22RBS if you weren't on the other side of the country I would buy it from you lol Keep up the great Job !! looking forward to seeing more videos. Take care and be safe out there.
Don't assume the distance between us is a disqualifier. In return for our efforts all I ever ask is for the fair opportunity to earn your business. Just a quick quote.
Don't like it? No sweat.
But... what if you *DO* like what we can put together... think about it :)
I Totally agree with everything you said regarding Josh's detailed information on RVs We are also Newbies, after Listening to Josh my Husband n I were hooked, we just bought a Used 2015 Rookwood Mini Lite travel Trailer Excellent Condition fully upgraded, Cant wait to hit the Road We are California Dreamers ready for Some Relaxing Camping somewhere along the Coast... Happy Travels... Enjoy Life
I’ve been so torn between this and the FE 231. I guess we will see which one we drive up and buy this Christmas.
Just bought this rig and so far so good.Also our first trailer.To eat inside we use tv trays or eat outside.My Toyota tundra tows with no problems.
Layout is great !
If I didn't need a toy hauler I'd be all over this !!
We just bought a 2020 Cougar 22RBS. . We absolutely Love It !
Beautiful trailer! Perfect for what I need!
Excellent presentation as well, thank you !
I really like most of this. I'm not a morning person, so I don't like a window on the "headboard". I also don't like how the upper cabinets extend over the bed. I can see rolling over in the middle of the night and bonking my head.
A topper on the slide out would've been even better. But a very nice rv.
Not offered from the factory on Cougars, but it's something we can easily handle here.
*WOW* !! *HUGE* storage for a *small* *Cougar* !!! Very *LARGE* countertop space in this *BIG* *kitchen* !! The *updates* in this trailer are *shocking* !! #Cougar #HaylettRV
Cougar rv plant tour!!!! We are super interested to see how these r built
Definitely on the list!!
You can learn a lot from just watching your videos. So thanks
Happy to educate in return for the fair opportunity to earn your business when you're ready!
Hey Josh thanks for all the great RV videos! I was just wondering if this cougar was solar prep?
As of 2022 solar stuff is now standard on literally every keystone. Here’s some details on that ruclips.net/video/1LXn7xWRrv8/видео.html
That's awesome thanks Josh! This RV checks most of the boxes for me except for an outdoor kitchen.I sure appreciate your response and all the great honest info packed RV reviews .I'll be here watching your reviews and maybe when it's time to upgrade our RV , the wife and I can come see you.Take care and thanks again 😊.
Outstanding walkthrough!
TY! If you're new to our channel, then welcome! We have the largest library and following of any dealer out there. You have plenty to see with Haylett RV!
Great floor plan. Azdel? Double pane windows? OSB board floors or plywood? wifi? Solar? Awning material? Gen prep? AND Why are the windows always opposite the camp side...all you get to see is the guy next to you? Love your vids, learning much.
See previous reply regarding azdel. Glad you found the updated footage!!
* Windows: Not dual pane nor should they be. Dual pane windows are exceptionally expensive and provide *nearly* no R-value bonus. (We have a video on the topic if you'd like to learn more). They also don't prevent condensation from humidity so much as hide the humidity in the RV (Which should be handled by running the A/C And/Or using a dehumidifier).
* Laminated floor with "Hyperdeck" (ruclips.net/video/X2lA2iB-6xg/видео.html for a little more info)
* Wifi Ready - there's an aftermarket widget you can add on
* Awning material? I've never had someone ask me that. Can you clarify please?
* Gen prep is not a feature found in this class
* Windows on camp side because this size of RV is difficult to put an effective kitchen in a slide on the driver's side. Not impossible, but there aren't many ways to do it. Usually folks spend more time outside in smallers RVs and windows on the camp side are seen as "less important" as they otherwise would be (Though I also prefer my windows overlooking MY site)
Just a hotel room for two. The perfect small trailer. Got anymore like this one?
First, here's some updated footage for this model: ruclips.net/video/DMNTCnOxiuo/видео.html
Here's another smaller Cougar: ruclips.net/video/bs9TWfN8Hw4/видео.html
and here's a Rockwood similar to this first cougar you just watched: ruclips.net/video/2gBwxkiEupk/видео.html
Outstanding trailer!!
Maybe you just have good taste? :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd You bet I do LOL!
I really like the one with the theater seating. Is there any difference in the model number that depicts this over the dinette? Thanks.
Same model number. Just a different seating option.
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks.
LOVE THE OPEN FLOOR PLAN AN KING BED
HOW MUCH IT COSTS
Here you go bit.ly/2nHNvOJ
This might be my first RV!
We'd love to be your first dealer as well :)
That cougar is Beautiful. You probably don’t remember me, but I got locked out of my RUclips account, which sucked.
The lack of a dining table and U-shaped seating area is a dealbreaker for me on this floor plan. The rest is perfect. When spending significate time on the road, I'd want a table, not only for enjoying mealtime, but I'd want the option of being able to work at a table or play games as well. I also liked all the additional storage under the dining seats shown in the 2018 model.
This model is quite popular and appeals to more couple's-exclusive camping. The next step up, the 26RBS would offer you the extra dining/utility space I think you seek in a similarly sized RV as seen here bit.ly/2qlxS0K
This is a beautiful Camper, so this little camper has a 50 inch 4K tv? That’s just awesome. I love how they made bigger things standard. Great video as always. 😀👍🏻
39". Did I say 50 at some point?
No, didn’t know they made a 4K in that size. On the furrion website the 4K starts at 50 inch. Is that a furrion tv or something else?👍🏻
@@matthewfontenot3725 Not furrion, no.
Ok, thanks for the quick reply. Is it a good tv? I’ve had bad luck with camper TVs in the past.
@@matthewfontenot3725 I am not a member of our service team, but communicate with them regularly and have no records of recurring cougar TV troubles.
The pantry looks good for a washer dryer prep combo👽
It has the size I think, but you don't want one of those on the rear wall of an RV. W/D companies won't warranty their equipment if installed on a rear wall like that due to how it bounces so much back there.
It has great counter space in the kitchen area, a king size bed, what’s not to like?
Good question!
Man this thing is awesome
Personal favorite of mine as well.
I can't wait to see your review of the new 22mls! That's the one I really want!
Coming soon!
Hey Josh, great looking trailer and video!
Do you think this is too much trailer for a 2016 GMC Yukon Denali with the 6.2 V8? It's rated to tow 8,100 pounds but I'm not sure whether or not this trailer and contents would be pushing our luck. I don't want to beat the Yukon up on long trips, especially through the mountains. Many thanks in advance for your response. Cheers!
Considering the GVWR of this camper (meaning the base RV + MAX cargo) is less than your tow rating and its shorter length I cannot see how this WOULDN'T be an OK pairing with your Yukon. Proper brake control and WDH'ing would be necessities of course, but those are normal orders of business.
@@JoshtheRVNerd
Many thanks for getting back to me.
Take care and be well.
I have a 2015 silverado 5.3 v8 with 3.42 axle, no max tow package but do have factory installed brake controller...which TT's do you recommend me look into that can be safely pulled with my current truck. I've read I should stay under 6000 GVWR and around 25 ft in length from end to end which seems to really limit me.
Hi Ryan! The good news is you have PLENTY of options. The bad new is you have PLENTY of options! I would suggest contacting our team at 800-256-5196 and give them an idea of how many people you plan to sleep, the type of layout that interests you, how far you plan to tow regularly
Basically paint them a picture and we can zero in on specific options that are well suited to those purposes. You can also email sales@haylettrv.com if that's your preference.
Love the camper!! From pa.
A little update to the more current version of this! bit.ly/2XeUilz
Josh, I’ll be single guy full time nationwide. I’m a mountain biker and am looking for more overland features. If you please: Can we lift it 3-4? Add 30” AllTerains and wheels? Also 400watt solar panels with 2 lithium BattleBorns. This could be the one and if so I promise a sale to you. Looking for your answer.
Regarding lift & tires - Not my area of specialty. Understand even if it's possible you're discarding most-if-not-all of your 3yr structural warranty with those modifications.
The solar & battery portion is a definitive "Yes"
Ok this is the size and layout for me and the wife.
Yeah this one's a winner! Rockwood does a great version of it as well you can see at ruclips.net/video/Z4af7XFx1Bg/видео.html
We'll have updated 2021 footage for both models as they roll in. If you haven't done so, then tap that subscribe button to keep in the loop!
Is there anything like this without a slide out? We love everything about this camper but want no slides. We have friends who have full-timed for years in a Class A and they had major leak issues with their slide last spring. We’d prefer to avoid that, if possible.
We do love this coach. Short length, but all the features. Please tell me the unicorn exists with no slide 😁
Rarely found in the laminated world. However, I think something like the Grey Wolf 24JS might appeal to you. Seen here: bit.ly/35D2XO4
Haylett RV thank you! Very good recommendation. I’ll have to show hubby the video when he gets home. Definitely making our list!
i would cut the end of the counter top off or remove that whole piece and have it cut and re-rounded with a router then reattach it...you would only lose about 10 inches then you could squeeze by..0:43..its that counter overhang that is in the way. Why would they have that overhang like that..it serves no purpose
Gorgeous!!!
Hey Josh, how do these compare quality wise to the Rockwood minilites? My impression was that Rockwood was a tad above Keystone, but the Cougars look like well built trailers, and I see a lot more of them on the roads. Thanks man!
Cougar is the most decorated RV in the history of RV'ing with more awards than any other single brand. They've done well for years and maintained an impressive level of consistency
It's hard to really match what rockwood has done though. They are and have been the best selling laminated trailer for so long it's just not even funny. They've long set and maintained the Gold Standard in their class.
If you twisted my arm and forced me to say one or the other I would give the consistency nod to Rockwood, but I would also definitely add I have not one but *two* Cougar models on my own personal short list. I like what they do and wouldn't hesitate to own one personally. I think that alone should be quite telling
Great review and its definitely on my short list...do you know what the warranty is on the roof?
Based on your inquiry regarding the "Roof warranty" I fear you may have been an intended victim of some half-truth snake oil sales tactics. I apologize if what I'm about to share is old news to you, but I don't know your experience level and want to ensure you get accurate info.
When a lot of people hear "roof warranty" they think it is some sort of coverage pertaining to the entirety of the roof construction. In reality it refers to the membrane-only & even then covers very little in the way of monetary value.
The actual structure of the roof has nothing to do with the "roof warranty" of an RV. So, in reality, EVERY RV has some kind of 10-12-15-18-etc year "roof warranty." It's really what is UNDER the skin that matters.
@@JoshtheRVNerd that's great information really appreciate it...I'm hoping to make a trip to your dealership soon so I can walj through some units soon.
Speaking of witch can you call the manufacturer and have that bed made into a murphy bed.?? With a couch when the bed is in the up position.?
A major change like that isn't something that can just be done real quick and easy. Unfortunately, it's just not available in this layout from any brand of which I am aware currently.
Love the videos like your style of videos. Very informative. But what is the smallest trailer with a king size bed?
This is pretty much it. They're rare even in this size
They have a similarly sized model here you can see as well ruclips.net/video/bs9TWfN8Hw4/видео.html
I’ve always wondered how many RV’s do you guys reject when it get to the lot?
Good question. I don't have records of it. It's not a high frequency item. To be rejected something needs a serious defect. If we find something like a slide not working or some other large impact defect, then we simply have the MFG correct the oversight.
Where is the table? Did I miss it?
No table. They utilize that elevated counter as a serving station. Just add a pair of stools.
Also, if all you need is a table, then just give our team a call and we'll make that happen. We don't tend to get too fussed up over the little things.
Wow, I like that one! Great presentation.
Who makes similar floorplans and what is the cost on this model because this is spot on camper SUVs and halftons can pull easy.
Dropped links for you in reply to your previous inquiry.
Very nice unit. Nice review too.
Would I have any issues pulling this Cougar 22rbs (which we Love) with a 2018 Chevy Silverado 5.3 Ltr. 3.42 axle ratio. . No max tow package but with a trailering package. I would definitely be pulling it with a weight distribution hitch and brake controller. Your thoughts ?
Can't imagine you'd have any issues. Contact our team at 800-256-5196 to discuss further if curious
Haylett RV -Awesome ! My wife & I find your Travel Trailer reviews the best and most thorough on RUclips ! 😀
30 years with my wife, and the only time we ever slept in a king was at a hotel. We have slept in a full and then a queen as we started having kids.
So with that being said, can this be bought with a queen bed?
These are Kings only. Rockwood makes this model with a queen though. You can compare them side by side at www.haylettautoandrv.com/inventory/?keyword=2205s
You are a natural at this! Great review! Question: Can a 2019 Honda Ridgeline haul this trailer?
From the hip: I don't think so. Pretty sure those max out at about 5,000lb tow rating (though I would want to double check that). It would be good to chat with our team at 800-256-5196 to verify some tow and safety ratings before proceeding much further.
My refrigerator is to large and I have too much storage.
HAH! man -- i tell you what I just about shot my drink all over my desk just now
@@JoshtheRVNerd almost eh? Need to step up my game is what I'm hearing.... ;)
@@MichaelEaslick "Challenge accepted" is what I'm hearing.
Here's the best part of this game -- everybody wins.
Josh does Keystone use wood in their aluminum frames for screws to have something to bite in to?
Where needed for structure, yes
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks Buddy ;)
Shame they didn't give table tops for the recliners... where do you eat??
Kitchen bar
Outside....you are camping...
On your lap
It is beautiful but I like the table not the sofas
Dinette still available thankfully!
This travel trailer would be perfect if they made that bed a Murphy bed when in the up position it would turn into a couch.!
That had been tried in the past by at least three different MFGs. The concept failed miserably strangely while other murphy bed layouts succeeded.
The industry is ... funny.. like that.
W😍W!!!
Wait until you see the 2021 updates! Be sure to subscribe to catch one come in if you haven't done so already!
I see this a lot rv review lately.
What is the roof material and roof structure frame?
Same rubberized roof membrane as about 99% of the rest of the industry. 3'8" Decking with dual vaulted trusses every 16" on center.
There is both conventional insulation and radiant reflective layering in the roof as well.
Easy to walk on or service?
@@jshapiro34 Cougar roofing isn't just walkable, even their slide boxes are walkable.
Got a 20 26rbs???
Not *yet*
Haylett RV waiting.
How much
I update our site as soon as I have pricing available from the sale manager. You're welcome to either check back later, or simply call our team in the meantime for pricing.
Waiting on that pricetag or similar floorplans to keep price under 32k
@@jshapiro34 Check the link. I think you'll be pleased with what you find if 32k is your target ;)
@@JoshtheRVNerd are these 4 season campers?
@@jshapiro34 If it says Cougar, then it's hot/cold rated as mentioned somewhere along the lines in our video presentation & pictures provided on our home site.
Just when I had myself convinced it was time to scale down to a smaller, lighter unit
- I see this one........
Curse you Josh Winters.
Yeah... these are pretty beastly
The Easel Rider , this is a light pull trailer, you’ll only need a half ton to pull it!
josh how much this?
We're picked over on these right now. I'm waiting for the 2021's to roll in. Since i don't have a unit to reference I don't have pricing to reference right now. Our folks at 800-256-5196 can assist you with that that. I just work in a different capacity with different info available to me
King bed take up to much space
And that's why we carry different brands -- to help folks zero in on the features they find more important. If you like this layout, but prefer a queen bed, then you'd likely enjoy the Passport seen here: bit.ly/2zcuEh6
King Bed is extremely important to many customers.