Heroes III: Tactical Fight Using Enemy's Ammo Cart and Sharpshooter's Bow
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024
- Game version: Heroes III Complete
Map: Wayfarer (E)
Battle No.: 5
The trick is to hide the Cyclops behind his own ammo cart and block them with his own blinded troops, in this case the Pit Lords. You must have Archdevils too, along with ring of speed to win the third turn. And, the Sharpshooter's Bow, of course, to be able to shoot when blocked. And then just wait until his mana is exhausted. Having doubled your own mana before fight, you can raise your troops and kill them one by one. Use your shots carefully, they're only 24.
I actually don't like when the game gets to these over-dimensioned levels of unlimited mana, every spell in the game maxed out with thousands and thousands of troops clashing. It's more fun when the numbers are small and the outcome of a battle is dependent on extremely delicate and subtle variables such as unit characteristics, flight, no retaliation, number of hit points, stats etc. Sometimes less is more
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Yes, I always felt the game got a bit unruly when the numbers got this big.
I enjoyed the opposite. I leveled to pointless OP and then cast a 3000HP implosion on helpless units :D :D
Its jävla xD
Excuse me. But what the fk did I just watch.
Watching this strategy work makes me feel like I watched something illegal
I think a normal opponent will find a fireball or meteor shower to fix the problem in 1 turn.
Циклопы так смотрели на вражеского героя, когда он призывал элементалей, будто хотел сказать "ну ты совсем тупой или притворяешься?"
@Леонид Кричевский )))
Жидкий Потрох,согласен.Комп устроил нам целое шоу!
сотни циклопов смотрели на него, спрятавшись за повозкой с боеприпасами
Good move with ammo cart blocking the Cyclops. You learn something new every day.
Or you can blind 2 stacks instead of one. Like it matters with 50 spellpower.
This would look funny as a live action movie. Hundreads of cyclops and dead bodies hiding behind an ammo cart and an army of blind pit lords, getting resurrected.
Nice little strategy there. Did not expect you to make that ammo cart as an impenetrable wall, lol. Well done.
cant ammo cart be destroyed ?
Мартин Иванов only outside of battles/ by the opponent
@@harabe1sh1o The AI would have had to kill it itself... and they can only do that by accident.
@@harabe1sh1o yes ammo cart can be destroyed, but if it is your ammo cart, you can only destroy it in battle with an area of effect spell. so like others are saying, its probably a limitation of the AI.
This was absolutely insane.
I don't understand one thing: why your opponent wasted all the magic points for nothing ??? he should cast cure on the pit lords, that is first thing to do.
Because it's not pvp match. And AI sucks at cleansing spells
He is surelt the others player. Its not ia
@@maryjoy2092 This is Wayfarer (E) map. Its single map where you have only 4 heroes. Yog is Orrin with Archery, Ciele is Dessa with Logistics, Gem is Mephala with Armorer and Kilgor with +2 Speed.
Si never use spells though
Ai
AI: aight lemme give every existing spell there is on to each of my troops EXCEPT DISPELL OR CURE
То чувство, когда сейчас проходишь убер сложные, кастомные карты с 200% сложности без потерь(А-ля парагон и тому подобный пиздец.), а в 2012 году я бы до такого при всём желании не додумался. Ты крут, конечно.
парагон это не слишком сложная карта, если честно
Oh I remember abusing OP spells like Resurrection sooooo often. Also Town Portal, Dimension Door :D My favourite hero was Jeddite with the Resurrection specialty. I always knew these spells were too OP, even game breaking, but I enjoyed it every time nonetheless :-) Made me able to win impossible fights. Good times.
Sharpshooter bow allows them to shoot when beside an enemy, it seems
I feel sorry for the nowadays kids playing games that are crap and catch their eye only because of stunning graphics. Heroes III is the eternal shit - runs on XP, Vista and Win7 (I have tried only those so far), has ridiculously low system requirements, and both its concept and the idea were executed perfectly. It is a game you can play for years. Two days ago I started playing after a break of around 7-8 years.
You can play it for years yet you stopped playing it for 7 years...
+Kupa Stasia You must be one of those persons with special needs. Let me explain it to you in a simple way. I used to play the game for years, however then comes something that you obviously have yet to experience - it is called growing up. Therefore instead of playing games I have obtained bachelor and master's degrees and now I am a working man. I can't afford the time to play games anymore, kid.
Ikr I played that when I was like 7 and I still like that game
Works perfectly fine on Windows 8 (aside from occasional crashing - luckily, the game autosaves one turn away from the crash everytime). Truly is a classic. Games nowadays don't have the same amount of replay value or enjoyment as such an old game like HoMM III has!
xI777Ix It works on windows 10 aswell (although it crashes sometimes.) I actually started playing this at 2011 I think (yes, 2011!) It was my cousin that showed me this game and I was still amazed by it. Right now I started playing this again and I still think it's one of the best games I've ever played.
That summon elemental spell was a pain in HOMM 2 when up against CPU.
Its far more easy to use mass slow and then blind them one by one.After that you kill each unit easily and you don't spend so much mana.
Очень классная победа. Хотя и мало применима против человека. К тому же, слишком много условий должно быть соблюдено для успешной победы... Но, как я понимаю, это специальная тактика для прохождения определенного боя на определенной карте.
Полностью с вами согласен.
Здорово. Ты не показал что на нем одето из артефактов
+Azat Umbetov и не надо, я тоже не буду, когда с Шоквейвом пвпэшится.
Vasya Pupkin артефакт золотой лук или сборный артефакт лук снайпера дают эту возможность
Руслан Шах только лук снайпера
Seriously, no one would play against HUMAN PLAYER with such a gap between the opposite forces.
вот эту фразу в описание под каждым твоим видео с такими боевками,а то ведь каждый считает должным написать что он бы вот на месте компа ВЫНЕС БЫ ТЕБЯ ВЩЕПКИ)))
Pit lords weren't blind for several turns while being next to the cyclops.
he would also simply wreck him with the magogs tho... this is stupid
This game was what I was raised on. I am glad I still have it. This game and Medieval 2 Total War was the shit!
I have no idea what just happened there and I am fu**ing impressed beyond recognition.
lol didn't seen weirder combat in that game than this.. nicely done!
Look up "Vampire lords are balanced"
brilliant. I would have never thought of that. You're awesome.
One little useful tactic you could have also used is to wait the archdevils, then attack when it comes back to them, then return to their original position on their following turn. With their high speed and no enemy retaliation, they will receive 2 turns in sequence, allowing for a free attack with no hindrance to their health or position on the field. I realize for this particular fight it wouldnt have made much of a difference, but still useful nonetheless
Хохох. Как я это смотрю почти через 10 лет!) Зачётная стратегия. И ограниченном количестве выстрелов не забыл...
he resurrected all the cyclops before starting shooting, this is smart, otherwise he wouldn't have enough shots to kill all of them.
Number of shots don't change but damage
@@oskarmadry550 Number of shots "needed to kill all the enemies" do change. Think about how many shots you need to kill 1000 earth elementals with 1 cyclop, and how many shots you need with 1000 cyclop;
@@yangzhao8900 so that isn't number of shots but number of Units, Cyclops only have 24 shots
@@oskarmadry550 I don't know why this is so hard to understand. If you have only 1 cyclops, even after you spend all 24 shots, there will be still a lot of enemies to kill. If you revive the 1000 cyclops first before wasting any shot, you can kill all of them with 24 shots. Do you get the point?
@@yangzhao8900 are you saying a kg of feather and a kg of steel same? thats insane
thanks for the ammo cart bodyblock tip!
lol all those Earth elements i died
And because his Pit Lords stood by the Cyclopes and they would suffer from Magog's splash too. In some cases, AI doesn't take such thing into account, but in most of them, he does.
По той же причине, что и он: все его войска ослеплены или не могут добраться до моих войск, а значит, игрок полностью пропускает свой ход. Вот и выходит, что я хожу непрерывно.
а почему он не кастует на циклопов ослепление или просто молнию зачем он элементалей земли то кастует?
@@snusmumric2002able потому-что бот
Can God create such a heavy ammo cart that even he won't move it aside? Yes, he can. This video shows what happens as a result.
you lost 5 devils so this is only an Advanced tactical fight not an Expert :)))
For expert level he would resurrect this 5 devils, it's just a matter of time.
I would say he got lucky that other player didn't have THAT NO SPELL ORB.:)) LMFAO.
I would blind him and attack after remove blind spell when it's my turn this is clearly fake there is no chance to win this this is fake or the other player forget that he can unblind the sam turn and just switch soliders turn
it's ai...
Expert tactician would cast berserker before everything got antimagic
нихрена себе вы стратег! я б не догадался!
because I possess The Sharpshooter's Bow, this artifact gives me such an ability!
Nice setup. thup for this... i didn't know range attackers can attack others when blinded enemy unit nearby tough!....edit: Russians are best in gaming and that HD+ mode they've created!?...man! that was a huge contribution to all "HoMM3 forever" fans.
ARE YOU A WIZARD?
Water magic is terrible😂💦 💙 what a cute sequence 👀
Когда он наспамил миллион миллиардов говнюков у меня чуть сердце не остановилось))
Exactly, I like these tactical decisions. Keep it up man!
i must say, a perfect use of a weak AI abbilties. Honor to U my friend, this tactic may come in handy in various campaings when enemy is just overfed with units. A well earned Like champ XD
Damn wtf did I just watch. So good. Thanks for sharing.
1:45 ну да, замедление на циклопа у тележки. Это не видео против игрока. Красиво конечно, НО НЕ ИМБА И ОВАЦИИ.
Your a very desent HOMM3 player good to see this game is still alive
Very nice strategy. But if this battle was done against a real person it wouldn't have gone like that.
Бой заслуживающий уважения)
Imagine having expert bloodlust and disrupting ray
Смотри внимательней: в самом начале я кастонул "Забывчивость", поэтому и не стреляют.
А потом не стреляли,потому что рядом были тележка с боеприпасами и владыки бездны,и они бы пострадали от выстрела.
Nice vid. You make a good use of teleport spell. Also I never thought to use their own war machine as a wall 😆
For the AI were smarter, then they would have meteor showered the ammo cart and your cyclopses would have been toast
Хотя и против компа, но браво! Вариант с вражеской тележкой был очень креативный!)
да кольцом холода или метеоритом можно было снести тележку или берсерком на циклопа. Игра постановочна.
@@АртесСитх комп так не умеет
This works solely against this moderately bright AI of HoMM3. Against any moderately bright human player, in turn, this is fighting windmills. The author might have informed about it, anyhow, if not, I am doing so now.
Nice one, but why didn't you just destroy the first aid tent so you wouldn't have to watch that animation over and over
I shouldn't have wounded his troops before resurrecting, that's the mistake. First Aid Tent isn't worth spending the shots for it.
Besides, I'ts and old version of Heroes where you have to wait for the sounds and animations to end before doing anything else. In newer mods sounds run in parallel stream so it doesn't bother you so terribly.
Bogdan Sverediuk Hey, you seem to know alot about heroes.
Theres one thing that has been annoying me for a long time and that is that the spells you get in your mage guilds are completely random. Is there any way to change this so that you always get fixed spells (Town portal) at level 4 for certain towns?
Or maybe so that if you have Berserk in 1 town it will not appear again in another.
ShoutsWillEcho1
Not sure, you might be able to do that in the map editor, when you place a town on the map you should be able to edit some things. It's been a while since I looked at that so I don't remember.
ShoutsWillEcho1 Ah, I expect to see that spells in Guild Magi as soon as possible too. But, once you started to play the map, you cannot change any starting conditions. Usually, spells are given to you randomly unless the mapmaker sets them himself. If you want to get some spells for sure you can open the map via the mapeditor and change them and then save the map. But this is considered as a cheat. Better play the map as it is.
I am so impressed I don't even know what to say!
What the f... 😄 Nicely done, mate
Hey Guys! Im looking for ALL of the short BATTLE music that start 0:04 to 0:10. Cant find it. Can you help me?
Hi! These beginnings are not included the game's soundtrack, but if you are a good programmer, you can exctract these sounds from the game's files.
Bogdan Sverediuk which one is this file? I wanna try to extract it! :)
***** I don't know which one... Try to do some digging.
***** I guess you can just record it?
Use dispel on the unit which block your army
Spam summon earth elemental and other spells
AI:Is to hard to choose from
Fight is set. Why he don't attack enemy with spell. Magic arrow or enather. Why he don't disenchant czart spell of reinforcement. He don't have?? why?? This fight is set. This is my opinion.
Exactly
I dont get how the cyclops Can shoot while being blocked by the efreets, is it because they are behind the cyclops?
heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Bow_of_the_Sharpshooter
The computer doesn't play like that.
One thing I do not agree. How did Yog learned magic?
когда дьяволов воскресил - им нет ответа, ждешь потом атакуешь, потом уходишь. На циклопов кастуешь клон - вот тебе циклопы с полным запасом выстрелов. Бой не похож на реальный.
awesome video dude! Realy like it!
Well done, Bogdan.
хороший ролик! показывает сколько в битве можно использовать фичей, а не просто кинул масс слоу или молитву и погнал, конечно всё нужно отрабатывать и нужен опыт но по крайней мере задумка интересная
This is the most incredible gaming video that I've seen in years, great job, sir!
Computer always acts the same way, still it doesn't let every human player defeat him because not everyone knows the way = tactic
Oh my god that's fucking genius!!
Thanks!
Слишком много условий должно быть соблюдено, поэтому такая тактика применима лишь в подобной модели игры, но не в реальной схватке
+Da_MaG А если враг взял бы, да и телепортнул пит-лордов куда подальше. И всё.
если бы враг был человек, а не ии, очевидно, ничего бы не вышло. Даже ии непонятно почему накладывает антимагию на всех, кроме лордов.
+1 Неплохая игра, но должно быть слишком много условий. 1 раз в год и палка стреляет. Да и если бы враг был не тупой комп, то игрок проиграл бы на 3-5 ходу
может потомучто там был другой человек а не ии и все было схвачено)
Вряд ли. Да и ИИ тоже туповат. Тут элементарно было выиграть врагу. Но он лучше будет спамить бесполезных эльменталей )
I use to play this game naked in my adolescence and I would always become very giddy whenever upgrades on my castle were available
The video is interesting, and worth seeing for those who play against computer, no matter how you call it man.
HUMAN players are mostly either too strong or too weak for me, it is rather hard to find an equal player so the game may not be interesting. Most gamers play against computer, which remains the same, so this video may be interesting to watch as well.
There are more difficult and interesting combats in Paragon map. In this battle you can see original use shaport bow vs II. But this battle I use force-field and anti-magic, I think. (Sorry,English isn't my language).
In the beginning: You are so f***ed mate...
In the end: What just happened?
Ha-ha, exactly :D
Давно не говорил в слух этих слов. "Вау." Спасибо.
Excellent vid 😎
Gladly, Computer isn't smart enough to use fireball and kill the ammo cart.
Why doesn't the cyclops have area damage
this ivan is such a master
Heroes 3 is amazing but heroes 5 stuns me this is my favourite heroes
Dude you are very talented!:)
It is interesting, but there is a more efficient and simple combination of Force field + Forgetfulness + Counterspell.
well done :) but why do the magogs not attack you anyway? (after forgetfullness)
mark hoogerwaard forgetfulness seems to be the answer based on the comments.
99 spell points
Легендарная игра,которая даже имея дерьмовую графику остаётся одной из лучших всех времён)
Awesome battle
i believe you can equip the badge of courage to make the cyclops immune to mind spells? (blind)
Sun Tzu: Art Of War
That's a good question. I think Crusader is the best level 4 creature, particularly for its double strike, though other creatures do not fall behind seriously. Second place are Silver Pegasi and Vampire Lords and the third place are Archmagi. The worst level 4 creature is, perhaps, an Energy Elemental.
Bogdan Sverediuk the best lvl 4 is vampire because of its life drain and no retaliation.
shdba Oger's have a ridiculous health stack and cast a nice buff spell, I'd put them in the top with vampire lords. crusaders are not too hard to kill since their damage source dosn't help their retaliation.
i was thinking 1vs1
I guess, but that makes vampire lords godlike.
I have lost and won battles because of stone gaze.
So, you've gathered all four magic skills + wisdom? Well, I was thinking about that too, but than again... he's supposed to be a might hero, so I just gave him such skills. But now I'll probably try the same thing you did,
Астрологи объявили неделю низкого ФПС, видео с низким фпс увеличилось в двое
Dude this was awsome!
Тебе дико повезло в момент с запертыми циклопами, что он тогда не наложил Антимагию на владык, иначе ты бы быстро слил этот бой
Да тут против него играл ребёнок
-Hey guys! Maybe we can go behind a cart and surround them? - There are no squares behind a cart, remember? :O
seems like bullshit to me. In not-modified SoD enemy hero would kill you with lightning or something else, or with magog -after using dispel/cure on him. I would say, that you created this enemy hero, giving him only those few spells, that you wanted him to have - obviously not giving him magic arrow, lightning, dispell, cure and so on.
Well, I haven't checked what spells he posesses but this fight is a part of a walkthrough. I guess the mapmaker intended it to be played like that.
So wait.... why didn't he use his magogs on your cyclops? the "forgetful" spell was dispelled by antimagic at 2:38
because then he'd deal damage to his pitlords and ammo cart, and AI tries to avoid friendly fire
I see you can a lot of Heroes but, who do you think is the best lvl4 unit? Crusaders or Vemp lords?
and which lvl4 unit is the worst in your opinion?
2:03 - More Earth Elementals. More! MORE!! ALL OF THEM!!!
Why enemy didnt used single cure/dispell/berserk or at least antimagic on pit fiends (he wasted A LOT a-magic on earth elementals...)?
awesome :) very nice job
You can call it whatever you want man, but all the sane people left in the world will still call this abuse.
как круто *_* очень интересно, очень...)))) я б до такого в жизни не додумалась
Tebe toljoko hui sosatj smachno a ne v velikie komputernie igri igratj. Babam po morde vipisivaju s 2x HoG
Необычно. Красавчик!
The question is.. why the enemy didn’t use Dispel or anything to unlock the blind?
Компьютеру надо было своих ослеплённых Кнутовиков телепортировать куда нибудь подальше от тележки с циклопами, чтоб открыть проход, ну или разломать тележку чем нибудь типа метеоритного дождя, тогда бы Axis выйграл.