No Confidence Debate | Jacob Rees-Mogg | Opposition
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The Motion: This House Has No Confidence in Her Majesty’s Government.
Jacob William Rees-Mogg is a British Conservative Party politician, who has been the Member of Parliament for North East Somerset since the 2010 general election. Rees-Mogg is on the Eurosceptic wing of the Conservative Party.
Rees-Mogg is the second opposition speaker during this debate.
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I live in a working class town in England and I'd love to see Rees-Mogg come and make this speech in a pub here. The reaction that he'd get would be priceless.
+sourcescience There is a video somewhere about him in a pub or a parlour.
+Camille Saint-Saëns I saw him be the Bingo master in South Shields.
***** Whole lot of assumptions there I'm afraid.
+Toast4001 am I what.
He already has done something similar to that - he stood for Central Fife in 1997.
Truth is: it's an urban myth that people with posh accents have never been to a pub in working class areas of the country and would get mocked if they did.
Ironically the stereotype often sheds more light on the prejudices of those that peddle it than those who are the intended victims...
I'm not a Conservative party supporter but I do find Mr Rees-Mogg (who could have stepped out of the 1930s) exceedingly charismatic and in my humble opinion he's the best Tory in the bunch and is probably a future British Prime Minister in the making and in waiting ...
Plus I'm sure that Winston Churchill didn't tow the line either and he has proved to be the greatest statesman that Britain has ever had ...
I highly doubt it, there's no appetite for him to be one within the party. Currently the front runners are Boris Johnson, Theresa May, George Osborne and perhaps in the distant future Sajid Javid (I've read Tory journalists such as Tim Montgomerie proposing this).
He's inexperienced to be prime minister being a backbencher for most, if not all, of his parliamentary life.
He doesn't appeal to a wide section of society; a rich, privately educated, southern Oxbridge man such as himself is seen as out of touch and far too posh. An image the Tories have been desperate to rid themselves of.
I personally do find him quite charming too, I just highly doubt he's a PM in the making.
+Sabrina Jones That's highly subjective, therefore it can't be proved. I haven't forgotten nor forgiven the atrocities committed practically all over the globe, by colonisation and the immense amount of destruction it caused, done under Churchill.
I'd argue that Clement Attlee is the greatest statesman Britain has ever had. Again, that is purely an opinion.
I don't know too much about Clement Attlee, I will have to watch a RUclips documentary about him to find out if he was a greater statesman than Mr Churchill ...
+Sabrina Jones Is that why his parliamentary nickname is "The member for the 18th century"?
He must be a Cambridge man
No, he was educated at Trinity College, Oxford.
He's quoting a section of this speech, Ivan.
@@keysersoze4322 he must be a cambridge man too
@@koolman4lyf funniest comment pls have my like
He's hated by a lot but I can listen to him all day and speak. His accent is so soothingly relaxing I feel like listening to a 1940s Pathe reporter.
When Labour left office unemployment was 11% and the deficit was near to £150 billion. And Now it is 4.8% unemployment and the deficit is about £68 billion.
The UK is on an upward trajectory and only Labour can destroy it.
That was because of the crisis, which would have happened under the tories too, and the country would have recovered under labour either way, purely because any country, and every country has, would recover after a recession
@@pantopia3518 country would have recovered far better under labour too. Austerity has absolutely crippled this country, which people like Rees Mogg have no idea about the direct effects of, which are still felt today :(
Otto Cooper well that depends how you define recover, I don’t disagree with you entirely, nor do I claim to actually know- I’m not an economist but I think some companies and industries fare better under a Tory government and some people fair better under labour
@@pantopia3518 the effects of austerity and cuts to crucial services are incredibly wide felt, it's part of the reason why we're suffering so badly with the current covid pandemic, which ofc is not only a humanitarian disaster, but also a economic one, as our recovery will be slower than other nations, such as New Zealand. The Tories bringing about brexit will also be a financial disaster, especially for those businesses......
Otto Cooper lets hope England get comfy in the bed they made eh
One of the best speakers in uk
Not at all
FJ Last yes he is , give us a strong reason as to why he isn’t?
garvin neely he’s a man who’s been isolated from the reality in which 98% of us live in Britain and is the seed of south east English entitlement who believes because he speaks in a polite manner in a condescending tone he is intelligent and respectful he’s a fool who fools fools like you when he’d sell u tomorrow if u were worth anything
ekimshield any man who calls himself a conservative and agrees with men like Jacob doesn’t know what conservative means
ekimshield conservativism means less government in your life and elected democracy not an unelected House of Lords a royal family and unregulated city of London and unelected Tory party governments rulling over 3 nations outside its borders they torys give socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor the bankers bail outs should tell u that
Honourable member of the early 20th century
Rees-Mogg, Pure Kingpin.
+Placeholder Rees-Mogg pure BS.
I think his best point was at 5:15! Every single socialist government (or 'left wing' government) that has ever been has left this country in a misery state.
Then the conservatives get picked apart for making the necessary requirements in order to pick it up off of it's knees.
Would that be because the tories leave every public institution in tatters EVERY time theyre in power and the next government overspends to fix it?!
Not in favour of either dogmatic political wing but it seems clear to me that we need a balance. Either in the form of centrism or in the form of swinging from one side of the political spectrum to the other, over time. Given the current state of affairs i think id prefer the latter.
Regardless, one thing is clear in every government we have ever had: Putting short term political gain above long term economic policy in the decision making process ultimately leads to failure.
how about the loose change of billions not paid in tax
What a brilliant mind
Have to agree every time we have a Labor party in they always leave a financial mess it’s the same in Australia
BRILLIANT once again, Jacob.
Rousing
This man will be PM
How’s that lookin
@@ill_be_frank enjoy the independent England and nonce politicians bawbag f
@@ill_be_frank savile was best pals with thatcher the conservative hero settle yourself before the royals rob ur nephews
@@ill_be_frank don’t get mad bro that the royals and all English party’s be it labour or Tory are embroiled in nonce behaviour get some self respect and a mind of your own not a political party that looks at u as a pleb
@@ill_be_frank no because if u take offence at attacking a political party ur a fool without a mind of your own and a don’t live in England so we don’t have nonces in school must be a southern thing I guess left over from the Romans
Haha if only he could have see into the future. Rees-Mog's optimism crows- while just around the corner ...... whoops
10:10 haha class
hes right about one thing and thats theres no opposition,absolutely no alternative to the tory government...mores the pity :(
Big Fan
From Fiji🌴
JRM for PM
Jacob speaks for everyone and he would be able in any pub in the north of england
yeah... taking away the nhs is never popular...
It's not about the gin, it's about good coffee for all people in every country. And please, I don't want to hear things like " Sorry we have no money for this or that in social belongings". There is a lot of money! Always at the same places. Horted.
jacob is simply head and shoulders above the rest, the only other young conservative with outstanding skills is rory stewart but i see him more as a foreign secretary for the time being the only department i feel jacob is still a touch lacking in, together they would make an amazing combo jacob for PM and rory as foreign secretary, and i am sure england would thrive, both these men are very honest, very brave very eloquent, very intelligent and downright decent . what more could we ask for wether labour conservative or liberal supporter these two i woud say should please every body, decency brains and honesty surell must appeal to all regardless of party ties.
Classic rees moggy
never seen him so turnt lmao
describing britain as bankrupt is misleading and false
+Paul London Morally yes, financially yes, a selfserving dump of disinformation, greed and fear.
financially no as is plain to see and such statements have been written off as false
you seem very intelligent so please enjoy this. Technically speaking it is true that Britain and Greece had a similar deficit (roughly 11% of GDP) five years ago. However, that is where the similarities end. Britain was never on the verge of going bust.
First, once Greece’s deficit was revised based on more solid statistical procedures it ended up at 15.7% of GDP.
Second, the UK entered the financial crisis with relatively low public debt (less than 70% of GDP - that’s pretty much in line with Germany at the time).
Greek public debt was above 120%, the highest in the EU, and its economy contracted by more than 5% in 2010 and by nearly 10% the year after - more than any other country in Europe.
(Reminder: debt is the amount of money a country owes - the total borrowed - while you have a deficit when government spending exceeds revenue. ie If the deficit is going up, it means a country’s net borrowing is also increasing to make up for a growing shortfall.)
Third, Britain had, and still has, far stronger and more stable institutions than Greece. In 2010, the estimated tax evasion costs for the Greek government amounted to well over $20bn (£13.5bn) per year. That means it can’t pay its bills.
Fourth, and most importantly, Greece did go bust and had to request a bailout that now totals about €240bn (£175bn). Since the initial bailout programme, two rounds of relief have also been applied to Greece’s debt burden, which extended the maturity of the country’s debt to an average 16.5 years, double that of Germany and Italy.
you are really distorting things blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/thomaspascoe/100018367/revealed-why-gordon-brown-sold-britains-gold-at-a-knock-down-price/
this is pointless they were backed by the tories who are no less of a joke
Socialism out for a duck... from Australia... no notes, from the heart, on the money ... wow
I like Jacob but he's delusional if he thinks we've recovered. You'll have to increase interests rates ten fold without it tanking for it to be a recovery.
+Kombaiyashii Uh, why?
+Kombaiyashii yeah elaborate
+George Christodoulides Because when you lower interest rates, you make it very cheap to borrow money. This means that people and corporations are now incentivised to leverage themselves out at this new interest rate (0.5%). The interest rates in 2008 were set at 5% and we all know how corporations and individuals had leveraged themselves out too much despite not having nearly as much of an incentive to do so (0.5% is a much bigger incentive to borrow, it is TEN TIMES cheaper).
It also creates an atmosphere that punishes savers. Banks need savers in order to maximise their lending power. But because interest rates are so low, people with money are now buying to let property, which many of these buy-to-letters are ironically borrowing money from the banks to help fund this.
It's a joke that you can lower interest rates so much and in the short term claim victory with a mild improvement. Of-fucking-course you'll get a rise in the economy if your practically giving money away. The problem is now you've got all these people and businesses that are going to go busto if you raise interest rates again and if you don't, you'll run into the problem that banks will no longer want to lend to borrowers because they aren't making money on their investments. So you then have to resort back to quantitative easing which is simply financial jargon for printing money.
Kombaiyashii Well yes. A brief summary of monetary policy. But I'm confused as to why you don't believe a recovery is a recovery when monetary policy is utilised to achieve it?? A recovery via the multiplier has similar risks, and is short term, but is still, by definition, a recovery.
+George Christodoulides I never said a recovery isn't a recovery because of a monetary police is changed.
A recovery however, would be deemed a recovery once the changes have fully played through, and we're only at the cheap money phase right now.
But not even that. For it to be a fair test, we have to compare like for like. And so we can't compare an England with 0.5% interest rates with an England with 5%. The reason why they aren't increasing interest rates is because the recovery is mostly fictional. Despite this 'monumental recovery', they keep pushing back the date for interest rate increases and I expect that if they do, it will only be a token raise. You're going to have to see some very radical changes to ever see 5% again.
I am undecided about Mogg. He seems nice enough and polite at the level of the individual, but that's not enough to settle my concerns. I feel like I'm being lulled. This speech was a lot of hot air, all of which could be turned on it's head.
every individual has equal value. from a tory. ok
It's about equal opportunities not equality
that is a joke too
+Paul Beach you clearly didn't make the most of your oppurtunities then
the idea that people have equal opportunities is a joke.
I am a staunch Tory and big fan of Jacob but he's just outright wrong here.
Our trade deficit is at its biggest since 2008, we are the second least productive economy in the G7, our national debt has doubled since 2010, net migration is at an all-time high, public services are being unnecessarily squeezed while we spend billions on EU contributions, foreign aid and tax credits, are constitution is being torn apart with no real pause for thought...
This is not a government that anybody should be confident in. Just look at their record.
3:36 brilliant 👏
3:48 The real reason I'll never vote for Rees-More. But let's keep telling my friends lofty shit about his anti-EU politics being the one.
The economic brilliance of the Chancellor? I guess that a bachelor's in Modern History prepares you well for the job in Toryland.
I thought this was monty python sketch
LMFAO
Could someone tell me what this gathering consist in ? It a reunion of the forler oxford student who are now in the conservative party ? Who is the person on the "throne" ? And who s the young man sitting at the desk in the middle ?
From scotland. When is this man going to be the UK PM????? #soon
Austerity led to the double dip recession, it was a reversal of austerity measures and quantitative easing that saw the recovery. Of course the recovery hasn't really been felt by most people due to the squeeze on living standards, but the top 20% probably have seen a recovery. Home owners and those with mortgages to pay in particular will be pleased, the young of course suffer most with student debt and spiralling out of control house prices and a lack of good available jobs - he who builds his house on sand....
Austerity is being used as an excuse to cut public services, that doesn't mean that the public sector cannot be reformed - but the scale of these cuts is seriously affecting the most vulnerable in our society and also impeding our recovery and progress in many ways - from cuts to culture and the arts to an underfunded inefficient nhs with stupid marketisation policies continued by the tories, to rising housing prices - which have been massively over-estimated to highlight the recovery as a decent one - in fact most of QE has gone into propping up the housing sector - which is why we see rents higher than ever before (especially in london) and the ballooning of private consumer debt.
He then said something about conservatism which i disagreed with, that all people are treated as 'equal' individuals within a society - is that really true? Do the conservatives treat all as equals? do they recognise that there isn't an equality of opportunity? Are they doing enough to re-balance that? A look at the 85 memos shows that current cabinet ministers didn't use to think all were equal at all, in fact they held quite racist views. What about the mining communities when they were decimated as a political game while we still imported 50% of our energy needs from coal from places like South Africa which forced practically slave labour? Socialism does treat people as equals, and it doesn't necessarily have to be managed by a political oligarchy - that was the mistake of the past, and in fact this government often treats its citizens with contempt, skewing facts (usually about benefits, foreign policy) for its own sake.
I'm surprised that nobody challenged him on those points, maybe the oxford grads were too infatuated by the ass kissing mogg was giving them.
+Sami Firstly theres no need to be insulting. If you have to result to insults to back your argument I think that says a lot really.
No a 70 billion deficit is not austerity. Austerity is a political narrative used to justify cutting the public sector to pay for tax breaks that disproportionately favour the wealthy who are stashing more and more capital in offshore banks and global equity which doesn;t trickle down to your average UK citizen. Public sector spending has some effect on growth, if you look at some of the greatest periods of GDP growth in the UK, they were at times where corporation tax was 90% and public sector spending was way higher than what it is now as % of GDP. In 1973 we had 7% growth of GDP while spending more than 42% of GDP
figure 2 www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/elmr/explaining-economic-statistics/long-term-profile-of-gdp-in-the-uk/sty-long-term-profile-of-gdp.html
figure 1 www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/past_spending
Our deficit is astronomical because of unregulated finance and new labours stupid blind faith in free markets. Im not saying that markets are bad. Although there is no such thing as a truly free; market - example - the labour market, every country has immigration controls, every country controls and regulates markets.
I never said QE went into the public sector... come on.... QE went to bailing out the banks, and has been re-invested in the housing market - 21st century feudalism, at times of historically low inflation we should have invested in green technology, instead we provide further subsidy to oil companies and slash subsidies for renewable....clever. 17 billion is pittance compared to the hundreds of billions worth of trash assets that were purchased by the taxpayer.
Yes house prices are high because of supply and demand, congratulations, but as I said all markets have some degree of regulation, and you don't even have to directly regulate, you can legislate and change tax policy to affect market behaviour, a mansion tax wouldve been good - taxing the profits of property - which an owner gets just from sitting on an asset - it further stimulates the market and incentivizes selling - which is a good thing. Theres a ridiculous amount of empty properties in London when the homeless figures have doubled since 2010.
I actually have been working in the public sector for the past year, so know what it needs, it needs some reform and young people and innovation, it doesn't need further outsourcing which often costs the government more - also you are never going to attract the innovators you need when the future of the public sector is so uncertain, and it provides vital infrastructure - case in point - norway, sweden - well run large public sector and consistent growth without the need of a finance industry which is about to get hit hard by the slowdown in global economic growth and emerging economies. Funnily enough the only country still posting strong figures of the emerging economies is India - with a highly left wing government and interventionist economic policy.
I then saw your points about the NHS and lolled. Migrants overwhelmingly benefit the NHS - do you know how much it would cost to train the doctors we get migrating her fore free? Labour screwed the NHS you are right, and this government and the coalition are threatening to seal the nail in the coffin.
Oh really Jacob, is that so? You believe QE was good because it allowed overly indebted, inefficient companies, that frankly, should have been left to slip away, to survive the recession by borrowing ever more outrageous sums of 'monopoly money' at ever more unrealistic rates of return. Well, I wish you luck with that but socialize the entire economy like this if you wish, this whole house of cards is going to come crashing down around our ears.