Augur is a reference to Ancient Rome; a religious figure that interpreted divine portents (often via birds), seems spot on for a title a Magister woud take for themself. Also I got the impression that each title was their Role in The Heist, so to speak, from what the Chant describes... Cory was directing the break in, Archie was building them a path to the Golden City, but they needed other help; specifics unclear. Appraiser likely arranged for all the slave sacrifices, Forgewright I expect smuggled the lyrium, Augur divined what day & place was best to pierce the veil... not sure about the Watchman, perhaps PR and otherwise obfuscating their actions, and the Madman... got doughnuts... out of non-tech based Heist roles.
It makes sense that Corypheus would be to the one to wake Dumat as he was the high priest of Dumat, just as the Architect was the high priest of Urthemiel according to the Dragon Age Wiki page. Urthemiel was of course the archdemon of the fifth blight, In DAO:Awakening it is revealed that the Architect was the one that woke Urthmiel, even if it was on accident. Its plausible that the old gods hold the strongest sway over their most devout followers.
I seriously love this channel. And I love the lore here, this is great! I was totally thinking "what if a magistrate became the first broodmother? Or there were two of them? What if there was a darkspawn civil war before the first blight, in a bid of the broodmothers to control the darkspawn? Cool to think about right? For anyone really interested in the darkspawn, check out The Calling - honestly it is my least favorite of the DA books, but it has some really insightful information about the Wardens and the darkspawn.
If one of the original Magisters was a Brood Mother, than I have to thank BioWare for not making one of the Old Gods a love god. It would have made it both too obvious, and horrifying with how things already are
I just realise now that I always thought that there was at least one woman in the seven magisters who caused the blight, it seemed so normal, and yes for me, this tainted female magister has to be special and yes probably the first broodmother. I didn't even think about it, it feelt obvious to the point I didn't search for proof in the codex. You made me realise that it's just a theory, weird... I really hope we get an answer in the future games.
Was going to comment this exact thought. The Magister that attacked and ate the other Magister was just completing the cycle that happens to females exposed to the Blight. She was the first.
So this is just a top-of-the-head theory but I saw another video about lyrium and how the titans are a representation of how reality cannot be changed in the physical world as opposed to the fade, but what if the black city is the body of the titan mythal killed, and when the titan died, it’s death changed the lyrium and corrupted the ancient elves leaders and so the dread wolf trapped them in the corpse of the titan and created the veil, then when the tevinter magisters entered the black city, they got corrupted and the red lyrium got released into the physical world, then creating the blight?
What I would like is another lost ancient primevil thaig like the one in the second game except this time it being more story present as the base of one of the ancient magisters, or the sleeping place for one of the last old gods.
I’m pretty sure The Taint came from Red Lyrium Radiation causing Dwarves to become corrupted, tainted, and Darkspawn. Dwarves can mine Lyrium because others can’t without going insane, so the Daarves mined Red Lyrium innocently because Dwarves are not afraid of Lyrium. Well, eventually the innocence of the Dwarves mining Red Lyrium would lead to the Blight Taint manifesting in their bodies transforming them into Darkspawn hence the whole crawling up out of the Deep Roads.
You're spot on that red lyrium likely plays a huge role in the Blight/The Old Gods being what they are and how they spread corruption. Even Corypheus looked like he had red lyrium growing out of him. The other alternative is, if lyrium is alive, then it can also be affected by the Blight. So red lyrium is regular lyrium turned into a darkspawn.
I wonder if one of the magisters (the one that ate another one in the deep roads) was female, and maybe she became the first broodmother after doing that
Maybe the first broodmother was not too horrible looking in the beginning, that she could perhaps make through the dvarwen kingdoms without being found out
Dominique Jacques you know what's weird. In Emprise du Lion, the old Tevinter bridges that are falling apart are carved with femme Qunari / kossith, with a snake slithering around they're legs. You can see these carving in the Hissing Waist as well. There is often a carving of an Imperial guard beside them. I think that the Kossith where engineered / fabricated is beginning to seem obvious, but for what purpose?????? which is exactly what you've just pointed out LOL ..
matt richard until proving otherwise I’m going to assume that the Qunari are elves on steroids… Dragon blood being the steroids… I don’t know what it is about that but I feel like there is some sort of personal connection between the elves and them
Elven blood + Dragon blood + Blood Magic Could be they were created to serve as not only powerful slaves, but also vessels of powerful blood for blood rituals.
Hey man just a quick critique from a subscriber. I feel like a lot was missed here. It is confirmed that red lyrium is just lyrium with the blight and that lyrium is Titan blood. Being that titans far predate the magisters there is no way that the magisters were the first darkspawn. The dwarves are right in that the darkspawn had been in the deep roads much longer than when they appeared on the surface with the magisters. Being that the Magisters contracted the blight from the black city the blight has obviously been around much longer than they have. I just feel like there was a lot left unexplored in this video. But thanks for uploading anyways I enjoyed it! I feel that the whole broodmother issue you were having is solved by the fact that darkspawn have been around much longer than the magisters
Louise Carol Lemmon if the blight existed before the magisters than darkspawn definitely existed before the magisters. Plus there are reports of dwarves seeing the darkspawn long before the magisters had it. Being that this is a video about darkspawn this video should certainly go into more detail about the possible origins of the blight bc we know the chantrys story is bs
Just because Red Lyrium / blight existed before recorded darkspawn does not mean darkspawn predate the magisters breaching the veil. The first known historical sighting of them is post breach. We saw in DA:I that red lyrium does not readily create or have a link to darkspawn other than both being 'blighted'. That being said... it is not impossible that darkspawn cropped up in Arlathen (pre veil) (maybe through the Evanuris experimenting with red lyrium). There is just no record of it... yet.
+Louise Carol Lemmon I think that the evanuris created/released the blight as a weapon(using a titan to test), mythal and solas tried to stop them and... mythal dead so Solas have to created te veil to exile the evanuris and save the world from the blight. Mi crazy theory start in how he banish them, if they were simply in the fade they can "whisper" like demons and back to the world by possesing someone. Is possible that solas trick the evanuris to be "bounded" to dragons to prevent it and later banish them to the fade? If that is possible, the evanuris can "whisper" to other, but not posses. If the evanuris one way or another leave the fade, will be prisioner in the dragon form.(9-2=7 gods theory) My theory, the evanuris whisper the magisters to open the veil, but insted of tresspassing the veil, use the blight to corrupt the magister and force to release the dragons. So the evanuris would be free in dragon form, if the dragon were killed by a warder, evanuris free. I tought that when I see Solas hating the warders because "they dont know what are they doing"
Is it possible that Corypheus and the other Sidereal Magisters lose pieces of their soul/memory every time they are slain and resurrect thus becoming more and more Darkspawn and less and less human...? All magic comes with a price.
I also think that one of the first brood mother was one of the original magisters, perhaps she was only tainted and not yet fully transformed into what we now know as brood mothers, which gave her time to go underground.
Darkspawn certainly have society and culture, and we can call them that. Chimps, our closest living relatives, have culture. Therefore we know creatures with greater intellectual and mental capacities than chimps have culture and societal structures. There are lot of anthropological parallels I was drawing as I watched this again. For thousands of years, humans were driven by survival and as we learned how to survive (in both good and bad ways - I have a lot to say on that in itself but this is not the time) we adapted and grew, and became more than what we were (see: present day). Darkspawn clearly have another, deep and unconscious drive along side the basic survival mode. Or an inhibitor to growing beyond that a survival mode, and survival mode has an added feature of Old God finding. So, I pose a question, is it the blight or the calling that drives the darkspawn specifically? Is that drive to find the Old Gods just the calling or is the Void, the source of the blight, part of what drives the darkspawn to do what they do and act as they act?
What if the Darkspawn are just looking for dragons to infect, and the wardens have that same savagery call to infect a dragon, just more dormant. Like say the fact that they are looking for Old Gods is a lot like how the people of Haven believed that Andraste was in a Dragon. The people who first worshipped dragons as Old Gods seen Darkspawn tainted one that they worshipped. This creating the theory that Darkspawn are looking for Old Gods. Cuz a dragon can still have the taint in them and have the same abilities as whom we believed was Dumat or the 5th Blight (purple or black fire and the evil look to them). I mean the dragon from inquisition was tainted yet still showed abilities of 5th Blight dragon. Could the Old God dragons just be myth?
You're inching closer to my theory... In codicies and through dialogue you know that 'dragons are just forces of nature and w/o a spirit in them have no direction'. These 'old god' dragons are dragons that house powerful spirits(the literal 'old gods')... one of which was housed in Morrigan's son for a time via the ritual. The link between Andraste and dragons is because (i think) she was the first old god baby (like Morrigan's son through the ritual). Look up the dates of Andraste's birth and how it correlates to the end of the (first if memory serves me) blight (aka death of an archdemon)..... spoiler alert... same year. This explains why she was so special. As far as what the old gods are.... I can only guess...incoming tin foil. They could be literally just the old god random spirits... or... what makes most sense to me... linked to the elven pantheon (locked behind the veil). Either their high priests or fragments of the evanuris spirit. The dark spawn being created-by the evanuris behind the veil-to seek out the dragons w/ the spirits in them to help free the evanris.... but yeah... just tin foil :D
Quote " So Andruil turned her into a beautiful white deer-the first halla." Andruil corrupted her also turninger her in to what ever she became. so maybe she was the one to creat brood mothers.
Two questions. 1. Do you think sexual violence is involved in creating a broodmother? 2. If yes, why? There's no biological reason for it, as we know the darkspawn cannot reproduce.
I do, because a verse from Hespith's poem describes being "violated." It could be a means of psychologically breaking the woman (just talking about this disgusts me), thus making her more likely to give into the transformation.
@@TheKingdomEntertainment makes sense. I think it also would make sense from the standpoint that the dev's wanted to make it as disturbing as possible for a female Warden - i.e. if you don't die during your Calling, this could very well happen to you
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Augur is a reference to Ancient Rome; a religious figure that interpreted divine portents (often via birds), seems spot on for a title a Magister woud take for themself.
Also I got the impression that each title was their Role in The Heist, so to speak, from what the Chant describes... Cory was directing the break in, Archie was building them a path to the Golden City, but they needed other help; specifics unclear. Appraiser likely arranged for all the slave sacrifices, Forgewright I expect smuggled the lyrium, Augur divined what day & place was best to pierce the veil... not sure about the Watchman, perhaps PR and otherwise obfuscating their actions, and the Madman... got doughnuts... out of non-tech based Heist roles.
It makes sense that Corypheus would be to the one to wake Dumat as he was the high priest of Dumat, just as the Architect was the high priest of Urthemiel according to the Dragon Age Wiki page. Urthemiel was of course the archdemon of the fifth blight, In DAO:Awakening it is revealed that the Architect was the one that woke Urthmiel, even if it was on accident. Its plausible that the old gods hold the strongest sway over their most devout followers.
I seriously love this channel. And I love the lore here, this is great! I was totally thinking "what if a magistrate became the first broodmother? Or there were two of them? What if there was a darkspawn civil war before the first blight, in a bid of the broodmothers to control the darkspawn? Cool to think about right?
For anyone really interested in the darkspawn, check out The Calling - honestly it is my least favorite of the DA books, but it has some really insightful information about the Wardens and the darkspawn.
If one of the original Magisters was a Brood Mother, than I have to thank BioWare for not making one of the Old Gods a love god. It would have made it both too obvious, and horrifying with how things already are
I just realise now that I always thought that there was at least one woman in the seven magisters who caused the blight, it seemed so normal, and yes for me, this tainted female magister has to be special and yes probably the first broodmother. I didn't even think about it, it feelt obvious to the point I didn't search for proof in the codex. You made me realise that it's just a theory, weird...
I really hope we get an answer in the future games.
In the inquisition the Dorian refers to men and WOMEN entered the black city.
Was going to comment this exact thought. The Magister that attacked and ate the other Magister was just completing the cycle that happens to females exposed to the Blight. She was the first.
Fighting the first broodmother would be awesome,. It would be just like going back to DA: 1 again! Great Video, keep it up!
I can't believe there was one I missed! Nice.
Great job as always and as always you make me think more! How the hell you don't have more subs and views?! Greetings from Poland!
Another amazing video.
So this is just a top-of-the-head theory but I saw another video about lyrium and how the titans are a representation of how reality cannot be changed in the physical world as opposed to the fade, but what if the black city is the body of the titan mythal killed, and when the titan died, it’s death changed the lyrium and corrupted the ancient elves leaders and so the dread wolf trapped them in the corpse of the titan and created the veil, then when the tevinter magisters entered the black city, they got corrupted and the red lyrium got released into the physical world, then creating the blight?
What I would like is another lost ancient primevil thaig like the one in the second game except this time it being more story present as the base of one of the ancient magisters, or the sleeping place for one of the last old gods.
I’m pretty sure The Taint came from Red Lyrium Radiation causing Dwarves to become corrupted, tainted, and Darkspawn. Dwarves can mine Lyrium because others can’t without going insane, so the Daarves mined Red Lyrium innocently because Dwarves are not afraid of Lyrium. Well, eventually the innocence of the Dwarves mining Red Lyrium would lead to the Blight Taint manifesting in their bodies transforming them into Darkspawn hence the whole crawling up out of the Deep Roads.
You're spot on that red lyrium likely plays a huge role in the Blight/The Old Gods being what they are and how they spread corruption. Even Corypheus looked like he had red lyrium growing out of him. The other alternative is, if lyrium is alive, then it can also be affected by the Blight. So red lyrium is regular lyrium turned into a darkspawn.
I wonder if one of the magisters (the one that ate another one in the deep roads) was female, and maybe she became the first broodmother after doing that
AND I TOO AM EXCITED FOR HUGE, ANCIENT LIBRARIES! (Third watchthrough)
Maybe the first broodmother was not too horrible looking in the beginning, that she could perhaps make through the dvarwen kingdoms without being found out
Wonder if the Qunari tie in to the magisters some how..After all their blood is not theirs which opens the possibility for so many things
Dominique Jacques you know what's weird. In Emprise du Lion, the old Tevinter bridges that are falling apart are carved with femme Qunari / kossith, with a snake slithering around they're legs. You can see these carving in the Hissing Waist as well. There is often a carving of an Imperial guard beside them. I think that the Kossith where engineered / fabricated is beginning to seem obvious, but for what purpose?????? which is exactly what you've just pointed out LOL ..
matt richard until proving otherwise I’m going to assume that the Qunari are elves on steroids… Dragon blood being the steroids… I don’t know what it is about that but I feel like there is some sort of personal connection between the elves and them
Elven blood + Dragon blood + Blood Magic
Could be they were created to serve as not only powerful slaves, but also vessels of powerful blood for blood rituals.
Hey man just a quick critique from a subscriber. I feel like a lot was missed here. It is confirmed that red lyrium is just lyrium with the blight and that lyrium is Titan blood. Being that titans far predate the magisters there is no way that the magisters were the first darkspawn. The dwarves are right in that the darkspawn had been in the deep roads much longer than when they appeared on the surface with the magisters. Being that the Magisters contracted the blight from the black city the blight has obviously been around much longer than they have. I just feel like there was a lot left unexplored in this video. But thanks for uploading anyways I enjoyed it! I feel that the whole broodmother issue you were having is solved by the fact that darkspawn have been around much longer than the magisters
Louise Carol Lemmon if the blight existed before the magisters than darkspawn definitely existed before the magisters. Plus there are reports of dwarves seeing the darkspawn long before the magisters had it. Being that this is a video about darkspawn this video should certainly go into more detail about the possible origins of the blight bc we know the chantrys story is bs
Just because Red Lyrium / blight existed before recorded darkspawn does not mean darkspawn predate the magisters breaching the veil. The first known historical sighting of them is post breach. We saw in DA:I that red lyrium does not readily create or have a link to darkspawn other than both being 'blighted'. That being said... it is not impossible that darkspawn cropped up in Arlathen (pre veil) (maybe through the Evanuris experimenting with red lyrium). There is just no record of it... yet.
+Louise Carol Lemmon
I think that the evanuris created/released the blight as a weapon(using a titan to test), mythal and solas tried to stop them and... mythal dead so Solas have to created te veil to exile the evanuris and save the world from the blight.
Mi crazy theory start in how he banish them, if they were simply in the fade they can "whisper" like demons and back to the world by possesing someone.
Is possible that solas trick the evanuris to be "bounded" to dragons to prevent it and later banish them to the fade?
If that is possible, the evanuris can "whisper" to other, but not posses.
If the evanuris one way or another leave the fade, will be prisioner in the dragon form.(9-2=7 gods theory)
My theory, the evanuris whisper the magisters to open the veil, but insted of tresspassing the veil, use the blight to corrupt the magister and force to release the dragons. So the evanuris would be free in dragon form, if the dragon were killed by a warder, evanuris free.
I tought that when I see Solas hating the warders because "they dont know what are they doing"
Is it possible that Corypheus and the other Sidereal Magisters lose pieces of their soul/memory every time they are slain and resurrect thus becoming more and more Darkspawn and less and less human...? All magic comes with a price.
I also think that one of the first brood mother was one of the original magisters, perhaps she was only tainted and not yet fully transformed into what we now know as brood mothers, which gave her time to go underground.
Actually it seems that Dumat was awoken 15 years after the Magisters Sidereal stormed the Black City. As in mentions Dumat appearing around that time.
Enjoying your videos thanks a lot
Darkspawn certainly have society and culture, and we can call them that. Chimps, our closest living relatives, have culture. Therefore we know creatures with greater intellectual and mental capacities than chimps have culture and societal structures. There are lot of anthropological parallels I was drawing as I watched this again.
For thousands of years, humans were driven by survival and as we learned how to survive (in both good and bad ways - I have a lot to say on that in itself but this is not the time) we adapted and grew, and became more than what we were (see: present day). Darkspawn clearly have another, deep and unconscious drive along side the basic survival mode. Or an inhibitor to growing beyond that a survival mode, and survival mode has an added feature of Old God finding. So, I pose a question, is it the blight or the calling that drives the darkspawn specifically? Is that drive to find the Old Gods just the calling or is the Void, the source of the blight, part of what drives the darkspawn to do what they do and act as they act?
Thanks good video but now there are so many theories in my mind that i get a headache :D
What if the Darkspawn are just looking for dragons to infect, and the wardens have that same savagery call to infect a dragon, just more dormant. Like say the fact that they are looking for Old Gods is a lot like how the people of Haven believed that Andraste was in a Dragon. The people who first worshipped dragons as Old Gods seen Darkspawn tainted one that they worshipped. This creating the theory that Darkspawn are looking for Old Gods. Cuz a dragon can still have the taint in them and have the same abilities as whom we believed was Dumat or the 5th Blight (purple or black fire and the evil look to them). I mean the dragon from inquisition was tainted yet still showed abilities of 5th Blight dragon. Could the Old God dragons just be myth?
You're inching closer to my theory... In codicies and through dialogue you know that 'dragons are just forces of nature and w/o a spirit in them have no direction'. These 'old god' dragons are dragons that house powerful spirits(the literal 'old gods')... one of which was housed in Morrigan's son for a time via the ritual. The link between Andraste and dragons is because (i think) she was the first old god baby (like Morrigan's son through the ritual). Look up the dates of Andraste's birth and how it correlates to the end of the (first if memory serves me) blight (aka death of an archdemon)..... spoiler alert... same year. This explains why she was so special. As far as what the old gods are.... I can only guess...incoming tin foil. They could be literally just the old god random spirits... or... what makes most sense to me... linked to the elven pantheon (locked behind the veil). Either their high priests or fragments of the evanuris spirit. The dark spawn being created-by the evanuris behind the veil-to seek out the dragons w/ the spirits in them to help free the evanris.... but yeah... just tin foil :D
What if the one that finds an Old God isn't a simple darkspawn but one of the Magisters? That whould explain why it take centuries for a new blight.
So I think Ghilan'nain created the brood mothers.
Quote " So Andruil turned her into a beautiful white deer-the first halla." Andruil corrupted her also turninger her in to what ever she became. so maybe she was the one to creat brood mothers.
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Two questions.
1. Do you think sexual violence is involved in creating a broodmother?
2. If yes, why? There's no biological reason for it, as we know the darkspawn cannot reproduce.
I do, because a verse from Hespith's poem describes being "violated."
It could be a means of psychologically breaking the woman (just talking about this disgusts me), thus making her more likely to give into the transformation.
@@TheKingdomEntertainment makes sense. I think it also would make sense from the standpoint that the dev's wanted to make it as disturbing as possible for a female Warden - i.e. if you don't die during your Calling, this could very well happen to you
Scratch that, GW's are so resistant to taint that they would just die. Still disturbing, however, for a female warden I'd think
the Grey warden did nothing wrong
#theGreywardendidnothingwrong