“You don't have to be THAT GOOD to be a Premier League player anymore” ⚽ Michael Owen | Up Front
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- This is Up Front with Simon Jordan. A show brought to you by William Hill that pulls no punches and tells it EXACTLY like it is.
On today’s episode we are joined by one of only four Englishmen to win the Ballon d’Or. Michael Owen was a phenom who burst onto the scene with THAT goal against Argentina in the 1998 World Cup. He went on to score over 150 goals for Liverpool before becoming a ‘Galactico’ at Real Madrid. He returned to England in 2005, joining Newcastle United but his injuries had started to take their toll. He would go on to win a Premier League title at Liverpool’s hated rivals Manchester United before calling time on his career at Stoke City.
Giving the inside scoop on his turbulent time at Newcastle United, challenging public perceptions of his character, and offering his thoughts on the current state of the Premier League, Michael joins the show to reflect on his career that featured brilliance and frustration in equal measure.
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Warning: this episode contains language that some people may find offensive.
00:00 Introduction to Michael Owen
00:59 Podcast starts
01:25 Owen’s ‘why’
03:48 Mentality
08:04 Academies / Liverpool Academy
12:50 Joining Liverpool
14:37 England
16:12 Arrogance vs Confidence
19:54 Beckham ’98 red card
23:33 Glenn Hoddle
26:15 Ballon d’Or
30:36 Injuries
34:11 Real Madrid
42:04 Newcastle United
50:30 Relationship with Shearer
56:33 Joining Manchester United
59:37 Appreciation by Liverpool fans
01:01:45 Mic’d Up
01:06:24 Southgate & England
Hopefully Simon will learn something along the way, and more importantly, so might we. 👍
Hopefully he cuts through the nonsense.
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@@DARRENKAIRNS-fv7ylthe nonthsenth
Owen at his peak, downright scary, pace and finishing .. lethal… huge respect
Remember that run and goal against the argies pure class
@@JasonBrown-dd7dj Lets not forget he left us to real madrid to win champions league only for Gerrrad to win it by himself against one of the best teams in history!!
Ac Milan had such a cheat team!
Miracle of Istanbul 😍🥳❤
Jerzy Dudek enters chat 😍
@@JasonBrown-dd7dj Owen lived on that one goal all his career. Robbie Fowler was a much better striker.
@@TranscendentalDentist both class if I'm honest,Owen dogged by injuries
I thought I'd find this interview boring and that Michael would be dull. But he was disarmingly honest. This was an intriguing insight into someone who came across as heavily media-trained in his playing days.
He's an absolute spoofer though. Claims he called Brendan Rodgers to rejoin Liverpool before signing for United. He signed for United in 2009 and Brendan Rodgers didn't become Liverpool manager until 2012.
Also, claims Brendan told them they wouldn't be signing him because they signed ''Robert Ngog'' (his real name is David Ngog btw) despite Ngog signing for Liverpool in 2008 the year before Owen joined United and 4 years before Brendan came to Liverpool.
Some bullshitter LOL
This is the first time Owen hasn't sounded like a bored robot. I really enjoyed this. His passion shone through.
@@Yewchewbheard that snippet on radio, almost crashed driving
When he has time to really reflect on his thoughts, he's got some quite profound insights compared to when he's on the spot in punditry.
The way Owen balanced that ball on his head for over an hour just goes to show how worthy he was of that Ballon D’or.
@@user-tn8uu2cu8gI'd rather worship a toilet bowl.
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g oh god
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
F4cking brilliant 😂
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I'm a Liverpool fan who appreciates Michael Owen. That FA cup final is still one of my favourite football memories.
Agreed from a Tampa Red
Yes absolutely agree.
Owen gave us a lot of hope in the late 90s. Silly for Liverpool fans to ignore his contribution
Pisses me off that some supporters slag him off, he was a brilliant striker, badly needed now, never forget that fa cup he won for us,a proper big game player,pity he was injured so young
Michael’s goals in the Cardiff FA Cup Final still to this day gives me goosebumps when I watch them on You Tube. What a player he was !
What a nice fella. Supremely confident but totally grounded. Also what a player
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g He don't exist mate. No proof, nothing. You bear witness? You've seen him nor know anyone who has.
@@user-tn8uu2cu8gallah’s not real fella. Just like the other 300+ gods 😂
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g You must be facing Petra then?...Did you burn all the original versions of the koran to end up with one based out of north Africa persuasion? Do you face Mecca or do you face the mid point between Mecca and Petra as was decided in Pakistan due to the confusion? Or do you choose to face the direction that Moroccan/Spanish mosks faced originally...which is, from their position, the line that runs in parallel to the line that runs from Petra to Mecca?...so somewhere through Africa. I hope you know this about your religion...... Also you don't sound like that was you....?.....You said "We invite you"......" I am Legion - for we are many" - Your faith is not personal - You are quite frankly offensive. Your religion is poison and in reality a crushing blow to humanity and freedom. Islam in the west is the disney version - In reality no1 in the west who isn't vulnerable or oppressed would buy the REAL Islam the koran presses - User is you name...user is your oppression.
Michael Owen was half decent too
Is that you Michael…?
I've been a fan of Michael. I've laughed at memes of Michael. Just had to pause this for a second at 18 mins just after his "it's bollocks" analysis. This interview might be one of the best media showings he's ever done. Remarkable mentality and showing a real grounded understanding of life and the game. Kudos Simon. Hope the remaining hour is as good to listen to.
Cool story bro.
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g outside the Catholic Church there is absolutely no salvation
@@user-tn8uu2cu8ghilarious 😂
nail on the head - "you have to be an athlete and then a footballer now".
I find Raheem Sterling to be a perfect example of this tbh. Phenomenal athlete, very good at adapting but simply not that good of a footballer.
@@alexeimarkowski1848 loads of them. Declan Rice, Dyer, Maguire, Gallagher, Henderson… could name a million more in the premier league.
Total BS! It's nothing but former players showing their bitterness. Modern Prem players would tear them a new backside. Just one example, I'm not a fan of Maguire, but anyone who thinks Neil Ruddock is a better player is living in cloud cuckoo land.
we said that afew weeks ago, its pure facts.
@@alexeimarkowski1848sterling has over a 100 prem goals, he has skilled n ability more than most. He can finish. Plus he was England best player for a period. Pep wanted him too. one of the best while at man city he saved them many times. Are u mad??? Just a athlete ? ur mad or maybe hes too dark for u hmm
R9onlado between 95-98 was insane. Owen between 98-2001 was insane.
Ronaldo was much better, but yeah.
His ridiculous speed n acceleration was what made him reach the very top. It was breathtaking
It was the combination of speed and his finishing. There were a ton of speed merchants in PL History, Darius Vessel, Bellamy, Cisse, Walcott, Andy Johnson to name a few but none had that killer instinct in front of goal that Michael had. But his speed was so important to how he played that when that went he couldn't get into those positions he used to get in where he would run off the shoulder and no one was catching him, he didn't have that ability to isolate and beat the last defender like he once could.
owen actually bosses simon a bit here. pretty assertive character
Bruce , Souness , Allardyce , Gullit and Michael Owen Simon really doesn't want Newcastle fans watching his show does he😂😂
@@user-tn8uu2cu8goutside the Catholic Church there is absolutely no salvation
Yeah he does
Michael Owen was a TOP player. Goal scoring machine. I had a poster of him on my wall as a kid, and also one of the reasons I became a LFC fan. If injuries didn’t slow him down, he would be right up there in terms of most goals etc. These kids will never know.
Remember what he was saying about modern day footballers? Saying they don't have to be good, they just need to be fitter and faster than everyone else. The man was never the same when he didn't have his pace 🤷🏻♂️
Michael Owen was my first favourite player - I was 6 years old and Liverpool became my team because I was impressed by this man Michael Owen. I don't hate him for going to United... He deserved the Premier League. Outstanding footballer and I like him as a pundit too.
exactly my experience and thoughts as well. What a legend!
This could have been me that wrote this comment
Peak Owen was best English striker since Lineker. He put the fear of God in opposition teams.
Better than Shearer ?
Fowler was a better finisher than Owen, but he was still a great striker.
That game against Germany, he was the sharpest England striker I've seen in my lifetime. It was a shame for England that he couldn't stay fit.
One of the few Liverpool fans who doesn’t hold any grudge over his move to United. I didn’t like it, but I can understand it. Doesn’t diminish how I feel about him and his impact on my teenage years supporting LFC.
I hear what you say and I wish I felt the same but I don't. I don't begrudge him the move, it was logical based on his choices, but he has to accept the flak for doing it. I was at a event where Steven Gerrard was speaking and he said NO WAY would he have signed for Man U, no matter what the options were.
the difference is gerrard was born and raised a liverpool fan in the city, owen wasn't @@tonymulreid6347
@tonymulreid6347 he may not have, but he was certainly willing to sign to Chelsea.
@@johngriffiths6742 yeah fair point but Chelsea aren’t Liverpool’s biggest rivals so… I wasn’t making the point of how loyal Gerrard was, just that he wouldn’t sign for our United
I don't understand the nonsense,he won us an FA cup single handed and Liverpool had turned him down anyway,did Ince get the same treatment?
I have to say . Watching this podcast made me respect Michael Owen and like him a lot as a person. Always loved him as a player. And a very nice down to earth man 👍👍👍
What is there to respect? He is entitled and there is no way entitlement earns respect. He keeps saying how he used newcastle to go to liverpool and then says the fans were unfair to him.
Regardless of how you feel or felt about him back then as a kid , you must admit this man sitting in front of you is what you imagine as grown assertive man. ❤
Used to be my hero when I was young and he was at Liverpool! Love his honesty in this interview explains so much that people don’t see in football!
26 starts in his season for Real Madrid is a huge contribution.
He had the highest Goals:Minutes ratio in the entire league that season if I'm not mistaken and was the clubs second highest goalscorer behind R9. 20 league starts, 16 off the bench. Averaged a goal just over every 1.5 matches. More than a respectable output by any standards. I compare his time at Madrid to that of someone like Julian Alvarez at Man City last season. Not the absolute out and out nailed down no.9 but a massively integral impact player in the squad who dips in and out of the starting lineup. Very very far from what would be considered a failure.
And he played 36 games so what 95% of the games he did play haha.
@@kingcameron8374 exactly
@@user-tn8uu2cu8gJesus Christ sits at the right hand of the Father. The only way to the Father is through Jesus Christ. ✝️💙🕊️
@@kingcameron8374 I think Simon was saying "starts" Claiming he spent 40% of time on the bench. Well 26 starts out of 38 (not 39) is closer to 33%. Quite a difference.
5:04 for the incredible apple story. Unbelievable bravery from Michael here.
Not just anybody can throw an apple in the bin.
As a teenager and a Liverpool supporter Owen was my favourite player for many years. He was exciting, talented and a world beater on the pitch.
Pre the bad injuries when he had that incredible pace he was one he best ever. Will always remember his goals against Argentina in 1998 and Arsenal in 2001 FA Cup Final.
I was at Hillsborough in 98 when he scored a hat trick.. i don't even think he was 18 at the time... after the game all of us were saying well he's got to go to the world cup don't care how old he is... tremendous young talent...the kind that makes you go wow 0:50
I love how much light this channels shines on the great Matt Le Tessier
I was brought up in peak Micheal owen era. What a player. Imagine him against them high lines today
Owen broke my heart as a Liverpool fan. He was my idol growing up. I had his LFC kit no.10 and his England kit no.20. I am from Cyprus so at that time everyone was a United fan because of Beckham, Giggs, Keane etc but I loved Owen and became a fan of Liverpool since 97-98. When he went to Utd I was so angry I gave away his shirts to charity.
This is the best episode so far. I love Michael Owen. I can listen to him for hours. A man of class, intelligence and humility. He was an unbelievable player.
Judas
Michael was an outstanding player and a decent bloke who was candid and balanced in his interview . Who was unfortunate with injuries, can’t help but feel he was over exposed at a young age because of his sheer raw talent.
Jesus the bar is low for intelligence these days
Intelligence 😂
Intelligence? You're going a bit too far there....
I've always liked Michael Owen. I've always admired how mentally strong he is having bounced back from so many injuries. That in itself takes a lot of resiliency. Also Michael's spell at Madrid wasn't the big failure its made out to be. Raul was almost too legendary to drop. Brazilian Ronaldo was probably the best striker of the last 10 years. Owen had the best strike rate in Spain at one point off the bench. Real Madrid at that time had sold Makelele, and Hierro had either retired or lost it. They couldn't defend. That's why they brought Graveson and Woodgate to try and protect the defense. Woodgate did well after scoring an own goal on his debut if I remember right. His problem was he was always injured. Madrid fans saw him as the best CB at the club at that time though, when fit.
It doesn't sit well with me the disrespect Owen gets by fans. I see him as an iconic figure because of his England career and status. He's in the same category as Lineker and Shearer for me
Same category as Liniker? He's miles in front of Liniker skill wise
Weakness!!!!!! You didn't have the mentally to get fit. A British soldier dont have that time to get over your "hurt leg"
That Madrid team were so bad at defending after Hierro retired and Makelele left. Carlos and Selgado were always bombing forward and their CB partnership of Pavon and Helguera were awful. and they had no protection because they didnt have a proper DM.
We have only ever had 6 winners in the UK of the Ballon Dor and he was the last. The current generation need to show him more respect, he was a fantastic player who would played for 3 of Europes biggest clubs.
His own generation showed him b little respect
What a player he was. The level he was at when he was 17/18 years old was unbelievable, seems like a decent lad.
Spot on ....rooney was lethal at 17/18 also ....unreal talent both them .... Owen pace and explosive burst ended up with him getting hamstring after hamstring injuries to a huge extent. ...was absolutely outrageous at world cup and his goal doesn't get credit it'd due .
Pace merchant, average without his burst
@phil everyone knows that but he had the burst….
He was a child prodigy. Everyone knew he wpuld play for England when he was 10.
Your argument is like saying zidane would have been average without his great first touch
My childhood hero! The reason I became the big liverpool fan I am today. It all started with him, so I’ll always be grateful and I always love this man. My dream is for him to get the recognition he deserves, he’s one of our greatest ever strikers.
Him having the bravery to throw an apple into a bin should 100% be a new meme
if you lived with my mum i understand the bravery hes talking about 100%😅
Kudos for getting to the core of the issue.
He’s not a bad 🍎 Apple 🍏
@@user-tn8uu2cu8gno thank you
He is so arrogant and full of himself
People always make fun of Owen for being "cringe" or whatever, I think he's one of the few pundits who is genuine and actually has a personality. I don't care for his tactical analysis or anything of the sort but could listen to him tell stories, make observations about the sport and describe his experiences for hours. He's always good value for money on podcasts.
Agree
Michael Owen one of the best strikers this country has seen and for me i always enjoy his media work and what he says and how he comes across 👍
If he hadn’t of been plagued with injuries he quite possibly would have gone down as the greatest English player of all time he really was that good. I’m 40 so I watched Michaels career first hand and he was frightening at his very best, almost unplayable.
This was a great interview, he is very honest and candid. A true baller back during his time.
He gave us much to cheer about and many great moments as fans all those years ago. He’s just given us more without the football at his feet. I understand Michael Owen a lot more now off the pitch. Tell your dad, Crosby misses you all
I'm a Liverpool fan and although I think he shouldn't have gone to Man Utd I do think he genuinely wanted to come back to Liverpool. Whether he should have left in the first place is another story. What I can say is however that he was a supreme player. For a 18 year old to keep out top, top strikers like Fowler, Sheringham, Cole, Les Ferdinand, Sutton, Dublin, Collymore speaks volumes about the animal this guy was. He was more electrifying than Rooney. There's a reason he was 2 years ahead of Gerrard despite being in same age bracket and even then Gerrard wasn't as freakish as Owen and took him a couple of years to bed in and become who he was, so Michael Owen was 4 years ahead of Gerrard. When Gerrard was bedding into the team in 2001 rotating with McAllister Owen was winning Ballon Dor's fml - my fellow Liverpool fans can feel aggrieved but cannot deny this guys freakish talent - he was the second best striker in the world after R9 and was ruined by injuries. Millennials will not understand how electric Owen was.
I think the whole England v. Liverpool thing was slightly different to how Carra saw it. It wasn't necessarily that he made his name for England, it was the suspicion - founded or not, it was certainly widely held - that Owen cared more about his England career than playing for Liverpool. And watching this video, I'm not sure there wasn't a little bit of truth to that. And as for the rest of it, Fowler connected with the fans in a way that Owen never did and never would, that's more about their respective personalities than it is anything else. But that didn't mean Owen wasn't appreciated.
@@chrispalmer7893 i'd agree with you. He was Liverpool's golden boy and was adored by Liverpool fans. We were proud to have Michael Owen within our ranks and classed him as a local lad notwithstanding he was born and bred in Cheshire.
Keegan putting Owen just behind Viduka and Martins in a 3 man attack was genius. Playing in the hole really suited him.
im surprised at how often he is left of the list of greatest PL strikers and players in general.. People forget easily what a phenomenon player he was.. What a talent
Imagine what he would cost now in his prime.
Brendan Rodgers wasn't at Liverpool when Owen went to Man Utd
His timeline is way off on a lot of this. He also says Liverpool didn't re-sign him because they had Torres lined up. Torres signed a season later. He keeps mentioning Suarez who didn't sign for Liverpool until Owen's last year at United.
He mentioned Ngog lol
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Made me chuckle too & if you look closely when he says oh they (Liverpool)said besides we ve signed Ngog ,he had a smirk on😂😂😂
still remember the night Owen did his hamstring - never the player he was before. He was my hero as a kid; devastating striker. I hated him when he went to united, and lesser so Madrid - have heard his story before on Carras podcast, and after all these years the wounds he caused my young teenage self have healed, and I do class him as a Liverpool Legend. Just a bit of a mad circumstance weren't it. Boss memories of the treble season with me dad on his shoulders, and Owen slotting the winner. Thats what makes you a legend in my opinion.
Imagine how much an 18 year old owen would cost today. What a player he was.
If Owen was still playing today he would be an Injury meme . Getting injured would be called pulling an owen
@@Shivajaiswal9if owen was playing today not one single premiership team defence could handle him, you hear what rio ferdinand said? Not a level but levels above what you see today, im 46 years old, and no one in the premiership of today impresses me as much as owen did at liverpool, not even watching bellingham at madrid whos on fire impresses me as much as owen did at that age, he was lethal
About as much as Mbappe I would have thought
@@megane230f1Owen was great at Liverpool. But if we had hindsight and knew he would be finished by 25/26. He wouldn't sell for more than 50mil in today's market. 18-20 he was great but still raw and developing, 21-23 was his prime, 24-26 he could still do good. 27 on the decline. 28- onwards he was finished.
2-3 years for a Prime Owen isn't worth half as much as Rooney, Shearer
@@megane230f1he was very good but not the best. People get carried away with pace. Haaland is good and rapid. But not the best striker in the premiership, let alone the world. Salah is streets ahead of him as a striker.
Probably englands most clutch striker in knockouts. Scored in 98 WC vs Argentina, 2002 vs brazil, 04 euros quarter final vs Portugal
Oh my god, he was unreal for 5-6yrs and amazingly confident in his playing days. Gutted when he left us but we then we went on to win in Istanbul that season. And he's right about footballers nowadays, they're just robotic physical specimens and not like back in the day. YNWA!!
I only started following football during the season he was at Madrid so missed his golden years but from the clips I've seen, his record and the reading up that I've done on him he's easily forgotten as times gone by as to just how brilliant he was in his first 5/6 years. People have short memories.
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g In the name of Atheism.....all religions please go away. 👍
Liverpool are deluded scum. Dippers.
Loved Owen when I was growing up but he definitely comes across as willing to throw his grandma under the bus to save himself. I guess that's what some strikers need to thrive, that selfish quality.
Once his powers were waining he understandably focused on earnings and himself more.
I thought Simon let him off the hook on the Beckham sending off question and in my opinion he was simply willing to throw Beckham under the bus to sell books. That's why he couldn't really answer Simon's question about why he had animosity towards Beckham because I honestly don't think he did.
@@theramblingsofbilbotheerid3048 I thought he explained it well enough. He was spot on in his view of it in my opinion, and most of the other players would probably agree with Owen I would guess. Once time had passed, Imagine Beckham and Gary Neville talking about it, Gary would probably be of the opinion it was never a sending off, but would probably tell his mate he was stupid for kicking his leg out, Owen is just doing the same thing in public. Doubt he would put it in his book to generate sales. He is also spot on about some players in the EPL, they are not very good, and are only there for the reasons he states.
Love Owen, his last book was a great read, a lot of people who have the inability to form their own opinions tend to jump on the hate-Owen-bandwagon but he was a first class player, honest and bang on with his assessment of the game.
The Liverpool Michael Owen was a world class striker. The bigger the game, the more clinical he became.
Well done Simon,Yet again another intelligent guest and of course WOW what a player he was
Imagine been as good as Owen was and not been loved by the fans of any club you played for. That's some achievement
Got to agree about more gifted and talented pure footballers in the past.
Owen is one of the best pundits, never sits on the fence and delivers his opinion clearly and easy to understand
Newcastle fan here and i just want to put my perspective out there. When i was a kid, i adored Owen, i rember being 5 yesrs old and watching him play for England and was absoulty mind blown with his ability. Even as a Newcastle fan, i always tried to watch him play for Liverpool whenever i could because i was so awestruck by him as player. I never thought in a million years we could be in the running to sign him. So when it broke that he was signing for Newcastle i was over the moon. Me and my mates were so excited. The whole geordie nation was ecstatic and we gave him a trelmendous reception. He was showered in so much love and admiration when he was unveiled at St James park, it was a sensational moment. Now i want to make it clear, i dont doubt that he was professional during his time here. But i dont think he understands how much Newcastle fans were willing to take him into our hearts, when in reality he simply saw us as a steping stone in order to get back to Liverpool. Im not saying it makes him a terrible person, of course not ,he had his own priorities and personal circumstances to consider I get it. But he clearly doesnt understand how much it meant to us to sign him at the time. Especcially kids like me that idolised him.
but he cant help being injured. He was banging in goals for newcastle whenever he was fit.
@@jamdonut4021 he didn't in the season where they got relegated. He played plenty of matches that season, but underperformed and was club captain as well.
With the way he speaks here too I think it's pretty clear he wasn't too worried when it came to the club getting relegated and knew he'd get a move elsewhere. Just the impression I get.
Also writing as a Newcastle fan I'd like to say that your sweeping statement "when he signed we were all ecstatic "
... is wholly incorrect.
@superkristara to be fair mate you're quite right I shouldn't have spoken on behalf of all fans. I'll rephrase and say that a lot of us were very excited, that was certainly my perception at the time!
@@MrUtopianDellusionsI was excited too when he signed for us. The exact moment I thought he wasn't here for us was when he prioritised England when he hardly played football for us that season. He himself said, he had muscular injuries and knows when hes not 100%. I don't fault him for the injuries, I fault him for using us as a stepping stone, not giving us everything. He only came for the money. It was apparent to anyone who bothered to see his full stint at Newcastle, he wasn't bothered. When fit though, he was still a dam good footballer, but that almost never.
Really inspirational. Love how Owen talks about the separation between work and home.
As a 33yo Scottish Liverpool man This guy was my absolute hero growing up! YNWA MO class act
I totally love these interviews. Simon has created a format and a category of questions (sorry, struggling for the right words) that make me come away from each show feeling like I know the subject much better than I did before. Isn't that the purpose of any character interview? It helps that Simon's subjects all appear to want to open up on their subjects, and that may be a selection criteria, but that detracts nothing from how enjoyable the shows are.
My thoughts exactly!!! The questions are asked in a certain manner. Ive had a think and it's possibly due to Jordan's intelligence or different background along with a certain dont give a crap attitude in comparison to an ex footballers podcast where they daren't upset fellow professionals.
This episode was brilliant! Never expected Owen to be such a good speaker, can’t think why like 😂😂
As a Caribbean person(Cayman Islands) following Newcastlle United from 1989,felt when Freddie Sheperd announced his signing i was sad,Souness did not want him ,came for the money and spend most time at treatment room and with his Horses. It is telling that none of his Clubs remember him Fondly, his powers of recovery to play for England were amazing😊
The funniest part is how he claims that the fans were unfair to him... Then keeps saying he went to newcastle so that he could go to liverpool. Best example of a whoreson in football
Owen is completely correct about the standard not being as good today. There's hardly any pure footballers anymore. People will say, "ah nostalgia", but recency bias is also a thing. Give me Henry, Ronaldo, Scholes, Figo, Zidane, Maldini, Raul, Carlos, Seedorf, etc, - I could go on - over nearly any player around today.
Not sure that's right. It stands to reason that there are as many talented footballers in any era. But the difference nowadays is that the game is so heavily coached that the best players aren't just the most gifted, but the ones who can handle all the information. Whereas in Owen's era, it was more about pure footballing ability. It's just different. The supernaturally gifted players still exist, but if they can't absorb all the information they end up being sidelined a little more nowadays.
@@andyw9255 Pep's Legacy, "boring ass monotonous football".
'Robert Ngog' so good he forgot his name 😂
Also said Rodgers when Liverpool manager was Benitez 😅
I was at Hillsborough when he scored his first Premier League hat-trick… he made it look so easy. Frighteningly quick..
Owen was a beast and not just for his skills. He had that top tier, teak tough mental strength that you only see from elite players, usually from a few elite footballing nations that are always in the mix in tournaments. That's what set him apart from others in the England squad. Nothing phased him. He ate up and spat out pressure.
I’m halfway through this interview and I’m loving it!
Forget Injuries and the Newcastle saga ect, Michael Owen was a brilliant player. One of the best young players this country has produced. Fact
Newcastle fans wont forget it.
24-25 goals in 4 years, £120k a week 20years ago and a dislike for Shearer....can't imagine toon fans 'forget' that to be honest!!
@@tweedlio2763 Newcastle bought him fair and square knowing full well his injury record
@@Timekeeper1200 Didn't realise the sod would be trying to leave every transfer window
Living legend.... people forget how serious this kids was!!
"if the ball goes in the back of the net, that's a goal in my eyes" - Michael Owen
Omg I'm a fan of Owen after this. Just tells it as it is.
He's a weasel...
What a great interview. Think Michael comes across extremely well on this and I agreed with pretty much everything he had to say. By far his best media performance to date
Owen signed for Man Utd in July 2009. It was Rafa Benitez in charge of Liverpool, not Brendan Rodgers. David N'gog (not Robert) signed in 2008, a year earlier. So it makes you wonder what else is bullshit about his account of this time as well.
Whether he likes it or not, Owen's reputation among Liverpool fans is average at best. Some would go as far as to say they dislike him. Most are indifferent. A great, great player but not thought of particularly fondly from any club in his career.
Can forgive him for forgetting which manager was at Liverpool at the time. Owen only said he asked about chances of going, so could have done that in 2008.
@neilbennett7651 Yes. Rafa was too busy selling Xabi Alonso and buying Aquilani...
Jordan could do with a fact checker like Young Jamie.
Great player. Great interview. Lots of insight, so an education for me. Only saw Michael once live against Man U at the millennium stadium in the Community shield. He scored and he was quick. Certainly as fast as I've seen. I wish him, Simon and everyone well.
Michael owens recent interviews have been so much better!.
I've never ever cheered as hard as I did when you scored against Argentina, it was breathtaking pinch yourself stuff 😊
Love these podcasts..What a striker he was until injuries
Good interview. I started following the reds around 2012. Michael is one of those players that long time LFC supporters don’t speak of him much. I’ve learned and enjoyed this interview. YNWA. An amazing career by Michael. 👍 Simon.
I didn’t expect to enjoy this chat as much as I actually did! Great guest to have on.
Excellent interview,, really enjoyed it,
Owen's story on how he went to Manchester United - He spoke to Carra who he said Brendan Rodgers doesn't need him because they've just signed "Robert N'Gog".....
Firstly, he joined Man U in 2009 when the manager was Rafa Benitez, who had already signed David* N'Gog in 2008. Brendan joined Liverpool after Owen had already finished at Man United.... wtaf
he is a liar and a whor***n if you hadn't noticed.
He made the same mistake in a podcast with carragher and carragher correct him saying it was rafa in charge and not Brendan. He usually gets that wrong because he didn't actually directly speak to the manager. Doesn't mean he's lying
As a Newcastle fan, I don't hate him for his time on Tyneside. We clearly weren't his first choice, and he did use us as a stepping stone, so I'm not exactly happy about his time here. However, in the Shearer v Owen argument, I have to give the nod to Owen. His explanation makes sense, and Shearer has never given his side of the argument, suggesting to me that he has no argument.
Didn’t think I’d find myself agreeing with Owen on many things but absolutely right about players being more athletes than footballers these days, plenty of examples of players who are lightning fast but have horrible first touches or technical ability playing at the highest level.
I somewhat disagree there. I think players like Vinnie Jones, Dean Blackwell, Carl Leaburn, John Fashanu would struggle now. Being hard and fit was often enough in that era. Now, less so.
I was a Wimbledon fan in that era. Could add players like Carlton Palmer etc ...
@@nickpellatt I think you’re going back way too far, I think the Era Owen is referring to is the early 00s onwards from his time winning the ballon d’Or, if you look at the top wingers/strikers of his prime they were all fantastic technical footballers but aren’t the super quick athletes of today. Look at Brazilian Ronaldo, incredibly gifted technically but was always considered a bit chubby(Real Madrid days especially). I think the mid 00s is a period where we had the best technical players possibly ever, and had left the drinking culture behind but were pre the uber detailed sports science/laptop coach culture we have now. Nowadays we’re moving in a direction where pure physical attributes are the first scouted and the technical attributes can “come later”
@@DSAVAGE92Agreed. Brazilian Ronaldo was a physical marvel pre injury in the 90s tho.
His time at Newcastle when he turned up to training in a helicopter was the season they were battling relegation and he was the club captain. Can you blame the Newcastle fans for being a bit miffed at him?
He can call the Newcastle fans delusional all he likes, but most of them are not multi millionaire footballers on £120k a week. Most of them cannot afford to turn up to their work in luxury helicopters regardless of their family circumstances. For most of them a Saturday watching Newcastle United is the way they let their hair down at the end of a working week. A fair chunk of their wages goes on watching Newcastle United.
The lack of awareness of Michael Owen when it comes to empathising with their finances and living standards compared to his is unreal, but he's not the only overpaid footballer guilty of that.
I'm a mackem and he makes me want to cringe violently. Jackie Milburn finished his shift at the pit ,got the train with the fans for 3 o'clock kick off on a Saturday. What a tit
Michael was one of my favourite players him and Gerrard was the best they had so much chemistry in my opinion definitely what a real nice fella 👏 bro 👏 💪💪💪👏👏👏
What about Gerrard and Torres?
More than a few times during that interview I though to myself "what a bellend". I don't know how these comments are so positive about him.
Brilliant show best interview so far top class keep going
This was really good. Love this series.
His facts are a bit off here....Brendan Rodgers didn't go to Liverpool until 2012, 3 years after he signed for Man Utd. "Robert N'Gog" (David) Signed a year prior....the man just lies through his teeth.
I was thinking same thing, talking utter crap.
Newcastle fan I can see. Lose the bitterness🥱. There's a difference between getting your facts muddled and lying through your teeth.
doubt its lies , seems pretty legit to me and hes mentioned the same things on previous podcasts over the years, its probably just confusing dates and players..probably meant borini not ngog, but fact was they didnt come back in for him after his injuries etc and had torres etc
I emulated my whole youth footballing life after watching Owen at Liverpool. The goal against Argentina was insane, supreme speed and finishing, a bullet striker. Dogged by injuries but what a player and in regards to the Ballon D'or he is underrated
So how did you emulate it then......
@@bobbybobstar1496 i started off well, was known for my speed, then muscles injuries stopped me altogther
Excellent interview. Thanks
There was R9 and then there was Owen…people don’t realise this guy was another phenomenon
You are so right. Brazilian Ronaldo (Ronaldo Nazahrio) was the standard that everyone tried to reach - even to this day. He was the greatest striker the world has ever seen at his peak. He just as fast as Owen If not quicker. He very Strong. And his dribbling abilities were the same as Maradonna. And his s finishing was World-class.
Remember he played in Serie A when they had the best ever defenders ever set in any world club league. And yet he was still the top scorer for Inter Milan
1 of the youngest great players that England found in an LFC Red Shirt. No BS, just an open honest interview/ point of view from the man himself. I remember hearing/ seeing him break into LFC's 1st team and the explosion he had in his early career. What a shame it was blighted by the Injuries mentioned, always wanted to see him finish his career at LFC but sadly for whatever reason it never happened. I never believed all the BS Press around him it was just to sell a crap newspapers every week. A really well respected Man and still is today. If a young kid needed an Idol of how to be in life, you couldn't get much better. I see the similar traits in TAA (LFC no.66), to name 1 but a few.
Let’s have it right
I remember hearing that same chant on match of tbe day.
I was shocked for him also. I felt the exact same on his part.
So your not alone Michael. I felt the same for you. I was shocked by it also.
Michael Owen is an inspiration for the new generation
I wish someone would call him out on his rubbish. The season he wanted to come back from Madrid was the start of 05/06. Torres was 2 years after and Suarez was 5 1/2 years after. We signed crouch that summer as our only forward signing, so saying Liverpool couldn’t afford him because of Torres or Suarez is absolute rubbish!
Also when he said he spoke to carragher about coming back but our only forward signing was Robert ngog, first of all, his name was David ngog, second Benitez was still the manager not Rodgers and third, ngog signed in the summer of 08/09 and Owen was available on a free in the summer of 09/10.
I have no doubt he wanted to come back to Liverpool but it seems every time it was a possibility it was always someone else’s fault and he now wants to make up rubbish to suit his story!
Bloke’s talking out of his hole
Fantastic player in his time. If your young and don't realise how good a striker he was, look up his record or you tube his goals. Top lad.
Loved Owen as a player and still respect him as a man
Can we just remember that the Ballon D'or was separate from the 'best player in the world' award at the time
It's very frustrating. It was the secondary award at the time, but people talk as if he was recognised as the best player in the world that year. He wasn't, it was known as the European Player of The Year.
@@james_44 he deserved it that year anyway, yes better players but if you look at his stats and achievements that year it was a good shout between him and Raul at the time, and he scored winning goals against most of the top teams in Europe
@@jamdonut4021 He deserved to win what was the Europa League to the World Player of The Year's Champions League, yes.
I can't remember who won World Player of The Year, but I suspect it was either Rivaldo or Zidane at that point.
You write as if the award was an equivalent of a Sunday league club man of the season. The Fifa award was a relatively new thing. The European footballer of the year had huge prestige in Europe and England.
@@leebush4053 It's not written like that at all. It's simply stating that the particular award wasn't given as a recognition of being the best player in the world. Simon Jordan suggests in this that it was. It's incorrect.
There's not one PL player that could come close to the skill level of Gazza, Le Tissier and Glen Hoddle.
Players today are like robots with no individual flair and to seel the likes of Man utd getting beaten by Galatasaray just goes to show how much players are over valued and overpaid.
Zola more skilful than all 3 put together. Gascogne one of the most overrated players in football history
@@tevildo45 Dream on mate, there hasn't been a player as good as Gazza since before and after the Prem League started. He's the most gifted player every to grace the PL and nobody other than Matt Le Tissier comes close to him. Zola wouldn't be fit to lace his boots and he'd tell you that himself. There's genius and Gazza plus Le Tissier were that, the rest are either pace merchants or little work horses that graft. Gazza and Le Tisser seemed to have all the time in the world on the ball, and that's the mark of a true world class player. If any of those two had played for Brazil, they've have won the world cup easily.
I agree. I think in this day and age of such stringent sporting data analysis (distance covered, pass completion % etc ) and the regimented ways in which a lot of sides are setup that there has definitely been an element of that off the cuff and creative expression of individual brilliance knocked out of the game that you typically find from "street footballers" . 😊 Joe Cole talked about this before on BT saying that when he was at Chelsea under Mourinho how he had to tame that natural flair aspect of his game in order to fit into a certain system of playing as a collective unit. I miss the days of players like Ronaldinho etc.
GAZZA was excellent
Great episode. One of the best 👍🏻
Great interview watched the whole thing easily.