Solstice LS3 converstion #2 ride along
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- UPDATE: THIS IS A R&D CAR, SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS TESTING
This is a DDM works conversion of the Pontiac Solstice with a crate LS3 engine. I was the fabricator on this project when I worked at DDM.
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This is how the car should have been built to begin with.
Roundhat I agree with you 100%on what you said, gm should of build this car this way in the first place. or put in the v8 engine from the Pontiac G8 too.
They have the special edition one the touron or like that with a v8
Stock.
Roundhat If they built it like that then nobody would buy vette..
Chevy would never had let it happen -- as the turbo GXP was also nearly as fast as the Corvette already. Pontiac was in danger of eclipsing the Corvette with the Solstice......
@@LakeHowellDigitalVideo They could have with the Fiero to. Pontiac would have better off away from GM, they may have had a chance.
That car will pass everything on the road but a gas station and a tire store!
True but it's worth it in grin factor!
I'm glad it's not yellow
I bet the fuel economy is better than one would imagine....the tire bill on the other hand.......
The V8 Solstice to me is a much better option than the 2.0L Turbo GXP Solstice.
True but it would certainly be worth it
Long live the V8 Solstice.
@00:59 Purple Heart Tag. Thank you for your sacrifice and service!!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I was thinking "surely, surely they must have upgraded the brakes to a decent BBK to keep up with all of that added power"... nope. they painted the brakes.
You don't apply the breaks while giving it power dumbass. The weight of the car didn't increase THAT much.
@@gamermaker8085 you sound like some one who would build a 1,000 Honda but keep factory brakes
@@babyyoda6587 Dumbass
absolutely stunning. HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
Your pfp makes this comment so much better
I have a 08 GXP and this video was helpful I am wishing for the opportunity to do this for the build I want it like 26,400. I bought my car for 15,000. So still cheaper than a ls3 any day and I can not say a corvette weighs less. My car turns head already being Brazen if u don't know what that means look up 2008 Pontiac Solstice Gxp Brazen. When you buy a car you want to know it's limits so that is why these test are run. So the buyer of engine knows what to do and not to do. Please do research before you call anyone an idiot or a thumbs down.
You don't want to waste your $ putting a V8 into one of these. It's old news and makes these cars easier than the vette, which means your V8 solstice/sky will be slower than a vette.
Makes them heavier than the vette.
08turboSS Wrong. www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f65/v8-weight-imbalance-theories-debunked-60618/ The GXP weighed 2960 pounds. Weight on the front axle was 1600 and 1360 on the rear. That is 54% front and 46% rear.
The LS7 car weighed 3100 pounds. Weight on the front axle was 1620, with 1480 at the rear. That is 52% front and 48% rear.
I wish V8 would have been an option, but the GXP is a rocket ship as-is and adding the V8 as you can see...can't get it to "hook up" and just sounds good and spins tires!!
A colleague at Meritor (engineer) put a 427 in his!! I told him, I wanted to do something similar and put it something obscene like a 542 with 1,000HP and running off natural gas, but when I spoke with him about how it was, he said you can't get it to hook up (just spins tires and sounds good as we see here)! :( Just wasn't designed for it and GM did not want it to compete with the flagships. The GXP is fine. The standard is a dog, like the Hummer H3!!
very cool, would def surprise so many people lol! After looking at some of these options for my future solstice, it's just so much cheaper to have the LNF built to hold like 500rwhp...this a great conversion!
Honestly I always thought that car deserved a V8 from the moment I saw it. The lines tell you it´s wild and fast, but the L4 engine... like a big muscled guy without genitals
From the factory, without the GM code reflash, a stock 2007 Solstice GXP is 11.46 pounds per bhp. A stock 2012 Camaro LS3 is 9.34 lbs per bhp. With the GM upgrade for the Solstice GXP, it is 10.27 lbs per bhp. Just over 1lb per bhp difference. Pretty peppy car at that point. And the car has 51/49 weight distribution front/rear. Pontiac and GM marketed the car so badly that most people don't know the Solstice had a performance option and that an upgrade from the factory was available from the factory. With an aftermarket exhaust and the GM performance tune, it's a 300bhp/350 lb/ft car all day long.
Exactly mate
@@bbb462cid The only problem with the Turbo engine is that it requires more maintenance and it won't last as long as the NA 2.4L Ecotec 4 cylinder let alone outlast a 6.2L LS3 V8.
@@CJColvin only extra maintenance is because of the DI and while the average owner might not be able to do that cleaning of the valves, it''s actually easy. Many owners did things that damaged the engine, like using fuel injector cleaner which is not recomended. And it will last just as long as it's properly maintained. My first Sol GXP has well over 130K miles, it's now in upstate NY and last I heard it hit a deer and was repaired, running fine. I took care of it correctly, current owner does the same.
@@bbb462cid Yeah but turbo engines ingeneral are more prone to break vs an NA engine, look at the problems with Ford's EcoBoost engines (especially in the new 2022 Ford bronco with the 2.7L EcoBoost V6).
such an expensive swap. could have been so cheap. waiting for one to come up at the auction w broken 4 cyl... love the rear cam ride along, would be sick w a tach and speedo readout
Absolutely beautiful. genius idea
It looks like GM built it themselves. nice swap!
Great “ride along”, if you like watching the road behind the car
Agree
Great conversion that's the setup Pontiac should have offered not a turbo 4 🤓
A V8 was the original plan when they designed the Kappa frame. But then cost factored in and didn’t want to compete with the Corvette.
Did one of them fancy burnouts once. The Z28 had Eagle GSCs (I think) and when the smoke cleared I fully expected to see blocks of tread stuck to the lower quarter panels behind the tires.
I've had two suped up turbos (Subaru, and currently have a tuned GXP) and I really get a little weary of all the issues with boost leaks, yada yada....would love a good old V8 but in a small car like this.
4:25, Let's Talk Tires. lol, gonna need some new ones with all that smoke.
Yes!!!! That's How You Drive!!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💨
I like the lets talk tires sign as he burns out!
I want one of these! Should have come from the factory with an LS but then it probably would have had Vette's of the day eating dust and you can't have that
Exactly, to me the V8 Solstice seems a much better option than the 2.0L Turbo GXP Solstice and on top of that the V8 Solstice would've not only sold like hotcakes but also Pontiac would've still been around to this day whooping on Mopars.
It was originally designed for an LS series v8 but GM didn't want a solstice or sky to out perform their halo car, the corvette,
@@deanosborn3464 Exactly mate
@@deanosborn3464 Really? Had no idea that anything other than the 4 was considered. Too bad, would have a great car
@@richmac918 There's a company in Chicago that does swaps from an LS3 all the way up to a LS9.
thank u tons for this video clip! very appreciated
Left one hell of a carbon foot print on that ride!
I like it!!
Very cool and nice job, but the only brake upgrade was painting the calipers? Kinda scary w/ all of that added power. Too bad Chevy couldn't have built this car. GM always leaves me shaking my head over their decision making. An example being them totally dropping the ball on the electric/hybrid market back in the 90s, because the office boys wanted immediate returns vs ironing out the wrinkles for a long-term plan. Go figure
The problem with electric cars is that they don't have enough range to go on a trip and they take about 4 hours just to recharge the batteries.
@@CJColvin My point w/ the "iron out the wrinkles" comment was to intimate the potential EV advancements that could have taken place w/ the substantial amount of capita/resourcesl GM could have dedicated to the task. Battery tech would be far more advanced and charge intervals would have certainly been top priority to maintain customer satisfaction, etc.
@@v.e.7236 Yeah but keep in mind you're still using coal to create electricity.
Wow! That is awesome, I want one...
nice exhaust system
is there aftermarket headers available instead of using the stock exhaust manifold
Any chance on swapping the L4 with an LS1 from a Firebird instead? There´s just something about that engine that to me has no comparison to any of all the other V8s
Nice drift!
ia did work on a solstice ls3!! brutale car!
thanks for the video!
Hope you replaced that rear end. That GETRAG POS fails in 4 cylinder mode. Good luck with some actual torque.
Yes, Cadillac diff with custom pinion angle modification
That's flipping sick!
why would you drop a LS3 in this car. One big reason I could see is payments. If your car was paid for then your just paying for the conversion. I dont think this swap is more or equal to a new vette on payments but I might be wrong.
EXCELLENT !!!!!!!!!!!!
What does it do on the 0 - 60 and on the Quarter mile after this..??
Pretty sweet! :D
Probably low 4s way into 12s-12.5 quarter mile.
Where did you get the cup holders that are in the console by the e-brake?
That was an item stocked by DDM works. Don't know if they still sell them but they did when I worked there in 2012. Check their website and maybe Email them
Thanks man I appreciate it. I bought my shirt throw shifter from them i believe? I don't remember if I fully checked their products or not? But I will go back & look. Hope I find one,it looks nice & clean there,it'll be helpful too because I've always got a can of Coke in hand. LOL. Do you remember what you paid for it? Just curious. Thanks again. Chris
@@rr1pro They can tend to get in the way when shifting but are nice if you can get used to a cup sitting there and shifting as well.
Sure hope this was the owner!
4:06 looks all serious. 5:18 huge ass grin :D
holy shit! sounds like a c6 corvette!
duh...
People... would I be able to swap an LS3 into a Hummer H3???
Yes, it's been done before.
How long til you wrecked it? Hahaha just messin.. your proably the only solstice v8 guy that drives em right besides me.
so does it just fit under the massive hood my car has or do I have to cut or beat somethin to make it fit?
The kit which I helped engineer is no longer available I heard (don't work for DDM anymore) but I think we did 7 cars and not a single one was cut or beat in any way. Heard about a company (Wades or something) that offers a bolt in kit as well. Never seen them, the hard part is getting the BCM to like talking to the E67 ECM for the LS3. Probably one of the major reasons the project was dropped.
@@rickcperry good to know, been trying to find engine upgrade paths as the base 2.4 motor is rather slow in my 06.
What Re your thoughts on the 2009 solstice auto convertible
Need a reply hi. Keep getting diverted
Is that the way you treat the customers cars?
***** Well then, have fun. Maybe a little info about those facts with the video would have been nice...lol
I agree with Jeff. I hate treating ANY car like this. What is the point of burning all that rubber and putting the driveline under so much stress? If you want to impress me, let's see some dyno results and some dragstrip times, not this pointless idiotic driving. I'm going to "dislike" your video, you knucklehead. If your customer "giggled like a little schoolgirl," he must have been a bigger idiot (if that's possible) than you, my friend.
So much for proper break in of the clutch and the engine.
+Jeff Tyler Pfff wow. Bet you're super fun at parties.
+Rick Hilton Who cares about some grumpy old fucks opinion such as yours?
Very nice
I don't see the point in this. It adds weight to the point of being a little heavier then a Vette.
Because its not a vette. Most corvette owners are assholes, and never actually drive their cars anyway. Why be one?
Wrong. The GXP weighed 2960 pounds. Weight on the front axle was 1600 and 1360 on the rear. That is 54% front and 46% rear.
The LS7 car weighed 3100 pounds. Weight on the front axle was 1620, with 1480 at the rear. That is 52% front and 48% rear.
www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f65/v8-weight-imbalance-theories-debunked-60618/
how can I get this done and how much?
GREAT GREAT VID!!
I'm glad it's not yellow
what is the total cost for that swap
that´s the way it need came from factoy those days
Why not jus get a base vette? It'll be about the same weight once you put a LS V8 in the Sky/Solstice.
In total, how much did the swap cost you?
I have a pontiac solstice 2008 gxp and how much would this conversion cost?
Very kool. I don't know why others use the wrong word (cool), as that relates to air temp. To bad these have been getting done for 8 yrs, and back in the late 80's, V8 powered Pontiac Fiero projects. The Fiero is much lighter too. Add V8 to solstice and now it's as heavy as a vette if not a little more. So kinda a waste considering the vette handles much better.
my gsxr wont come close to keeping up in the 100's corvette has a lot of top end but in the curves the corvette don't stand a chance its like a Miata they corner on rails
Sooo wanna do this to mine!!! 💯🦾😤
How much did the engine change cost ?
At the time of this build, entire brand new drivetrain, custom harness to make everything inside work and labor was around 25k
I’m sooooooooo going to copy this
how much do u want for it
I remember hearing this Car and the Corvette share the same Chassis, so I'm not surprised this conversion was done. Maybe if they actually produced this version Pontiac would still be around instead of Buick? The only reason Buick is still around is Because the Chinese love there Ugly little cars ?????
Wrong. Solstice and Sky were built on the Kappa platform in Wilmington DE. Completely different platform from the Corvette. Google is your friend.
+Jeff Tyler corvette and solstice, same chassis.
I thought it was that the front end shared a very similar design with the 5th gen Camaro, but I could be wrong
Who does these swaps, I need mines done
how much would a ;s3 engine swap cost me?
LS3 Crate engine with a really cool shifter knob thanks for the details and how you trash a customers property... you need a rabbit so you can start taking and have on hand a daily regimen of smart pills (you should double maybe triple the initial recommended dose for the first couple months)
It's a R&D car smart ass
with a really cool shifter knob
How was the pcm setup did you use stock gauges and how?
It was a E67 ECM and all the gauges worked. Only drawback was the cruise didn't work
I want one ! Bad!!! Lpl
can i get some info to get my car done
How much does it cost to do this
Omg i love the v8 solstice, how much does the swap costs, i guess that maybe like 25k usd?
that's about the right amount. The company that did this conversion does not offer it anymore so now all we have is the video! Thanks for watching
@@rickcperry wait really? are there others that still do it?
Issa Romper you might find some people, I remember something about Wades shop doing them. May have to google that cause it’s been years since I’ve worked at that company. Good luck
@@rickcperry never knew engine swaps were that expensive
@@issaromper4582 The engine /Trans is new GM crate and will set you back $15k... Then once you swap the rear end for a CTS-v and buy wiring harness and cooling system not to mention labor you can get in the $25k range pretty quick. I know when we finished the design program for this kit it was bulletproof and these were the testing videos. People think we were just out playing and abusing a car but we were testing the engineering of the kit that was suppose to go to market but never made it due to lack of interest.It was such a small market that people just wouldn't go for it unless they were die hard Solstice people.
Holy snikeys....
If I were to give you a Solstice like this and the LS3, what's the cost of your conversion?
+rickcperry Haha, I'm serious! But I see you no longer work at DDM, right? I'll do some digging. The Solstice is a sweet platform for this setup.... Goes from old-guy car to "holy shit" real fast. Great video.
+Grid DDM doesn't appear to do that anymore...not sure if that's because OP (Rick) was the one doing all of that in the past, but I believe at the time they were charging somewhere in the $25-30k range for the conversion. I don't know if that includes the engine/transmission or not...that might just be the conversion itself.
Thanks for that info. I was unaware. Their website doesn't have the info available anymore like it used to so I was under the impression they didn't do it anymore. I guess contacting them directly would be the best bet. Thanks again.
***** and @ Mike also, thanks for the info as Mike said.
I did check out their site and saw the prices, had to do a bit of digging as it's not front and center. Or it wasn't when I looked. Good stuff! I hear it gets the car heavier than the Corvette after this conversion, but I'm not too well versed on this. It looks like it'd be fine regardless given its center of gravity and the size. Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks again for the video. My father loves the car, reminds him of vehicles from his past, but he wants the power reminiscent of the Cuda he once owned. I'm just over here wishing there were guys that did conversions like this for my first Gen CTS to get it to CTS-V clone levels. TL;DR - This video nails it.
Mallet in Berea Ohio does LS2 conversion
Lol, the engine costs more than the car!
Remember the line from gumball rally, “what’s behind me is not important.”
For some reason that engine sounds better in a Corvette than it does in this car
430 RWHP? The LS3 stock makes 360-368 RWHP. Oh wait, I hear the cams. That's about 40-45 RWHP there, and maybe a CAI plus tune. But still, this makes the car weigh 40-70 lbs more then a vette so why not buy a vette .
Because a Solstice with an LS3 will turn twice as many heads as a dime-a-dozen Corvette, and I'd wager that the average Solstice owner is 40-70 lbs lighter than the average Corvette driver, so it's a wash really. :)
Its not a DOHC, there is only one "cam". Not "camS".
Michael Harris you know nothing about the ls engine go home 360 to 380 is when they first came out in 1997 the turbo 4 banger Is capable of 500 plus take your mustang somewhere else probably with a tow truck would be faster
I want torque! : )
What transmission is behind the LS3?
That car has the T56 but the later builds were the 6060
I hope whoever racist this car have enough toilet paper with him, because that car is the SHIT
What diff is you running
Cadillac CTS
@@rickcperry what year?
And cts v right
What wiring harnesses are you guys using
I made the wiring harness myself when I worked there by taking a Street rod E67 harness and merging it with the stock Solstice harness. They are no longer doing this conversion
Rick Perry man that’s suck would’ve love to do this swap
ese es mi carro
Where is the 1000 like button
Pontiac was always known for building sweet cars with NO power....could not even bring back the famous Buick V6 turbo...
Yeah and my 400 hp 06 GTO smokes about 95% of the cars on the road. You know the 89 TTA HAD an upgraded 3.8L Buick turbo that was used on the GNX. It even unseated the Corvette for the fastest GM car of that year.
I know i would never bring a car to him now
I have a 07 Saturn sky I want to ls3 swap how much is a ball park number to have it done
This company no longer does them but at the time it was around $25,000 for parts and labor and included a new stronger diff
@@rickcperry thank you
Lol lets talk tires
😂 speed demon
Jazz
GM are idiots for never thinking to do this...
Why make something nice just to dog it out ? Unworthy creator
As said in the comments before, It's a prototype kit and has to be tested to the point of failure so that those issues can be corrected before going to market.
Conversion conversation. Just don't buy THIS car.
How much would this cost?
That company doesn't do them anymore but it's around $25,000 including a new engine and transmission.
what does this cost?