You were clearly pushed to start as quick as possible. Typical problem at those busy take-off sites. Take it easy, make sure everything is right for you. Just let them wait. Or maybe better look for sites to fly where there's more space to start. We have many of them here in Switzerland. Good luck and take care...
Just launch forward. Stay away from busy places like this one. NEVER let anyone rush you. YOU go as YOU feel ready. I hope that you are o.k. and not get hurt, Wish you better luck next time. Fly Safe, Ghost Glider
everyone has those days.. it definitely seemed those launching were rushed by the big que. some classic errors , but just part of flying, i've done them all ..
Thanks for posting! I launched from there a few weeks later, and it sure can get a little stressful up there, with a lot of pilots, plus the tourists watching, not a lot of space/time for corrections in the launch phase... But the flight itself was well worth the trouble - spectacular views for sure! Good thing you were OK, happy landings!
maybe if they used the back half of the launch area where all people are standing about the could get the wing inflated and stable before launching over the bushes
maybe it would have been better to forward launch ? Also after taking off I notice that the pilot seems to turn left. I'd get some hight first before doing any turns or seating in
The problem begins with having to sort your glider beside launch, then carrying it to the actual takeoff. Other pilots only help to get airborne asap, putting unnecessary pressure upon each other resulting in stressed launches that frequently go wrong in one or another way. Being on Hochfelln after the Tegelberg-experience really was a relief!
I SO agree. I was highly recommendee by so many ppl, including instructors who knew my competency level, to take an SIV. When I took the SIV, I realized I was not confident enough to judge the weather and take off entirely alone. So all the fancy SIV manoevres didn’t help me much.
One of the possibilities is to always know your skills, you decide (ignore the pressure). Starting lower also allows you to get the wing above your head faster, then adopt the appropriate take off position and big strides. Off u fly! Perhaps cutting back that first line of bushes would help beginners and protect the equipment. Fly well and feel the elements.
I would say go to a place that has consistent wind and learn ground handling. When you have confidence because you really know how to handle your wing the group pressure won't be such a problem.
almost same thing happened to me with no brakes and steeper take-off. my problem was running like hell but applying no brakes in steep take off so it tend to overshoot and bang! 40% left collapse.
I'd be so pissed off if I did that ,bro ! 😳😳😳😳 I'd be like 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 the entire time I'm untangling my wing and my lines from those bushes lmao 😅🤣😂 I hate that rushed feeling when everyone is waiting for me to go and they're being impatient. It's hard to just block them out sometimes.
Too small a site with too many people. Brrr. Not me. I've made a similar mistake and the fact is that with such conditions you feel the pressure. Can't help it.
Wow, now I don't feel so bad about not being able to launch a wing as a beginner. Apparently even someone with a little experience still has problems. I attended a weekend class on kiting a few weeks ago and, damn, that is pretty strenuous activity. I lack the physical endurance to do much of that kind of thing, which is why I opted for the trike setup.
Although the guy taking the video says he applied too much left brake, I didn’t see the brake lines in his hands as he launched. That is not a great launch site, in my humble opinion.
Hauptproblem und typisch für viele Piloten ist die mangelhafte Schirmbeherrschung bei kleinsten und kleinen Störungen. Sorry ist nicht persönlich gemeint. Man sieht das einfach überall.
Darum gehe ich nicht mehr an den Tegelberg, hier wird so viel unnötiger Druck der anderen Fliegern ausgeübt, ich habe auch schon Streits erlebt.... ein ganz ungemütliches Klientel!
I wonder why you guys _always_ try to start reverse facing the wing? With almost no wind the small hesitation needed for the turn often leads to trouble. Next time in these conditions why don't you just try to start facing downhill. Especially with so many supporters they will hold the wing for you for good inflation and you simply run forward and cannot miss! I am speaking as a seasoned paramotorist and I always start facing forward at low or no wind. Starting reversed is only needed when the wind is high and you really need to pull hard, watch and control the glider (probably run uphill) and then you usually do have time to turn without losing control over your glider.
Too crowded. If those people had been back at a respectful distance instead of crowding the launch site as closely as possible, then you would have been fine. You needed a few more steps to run up/launch but all these people were in the way. Don't be scared to tell people to back up and give some space, a lot of the time people just do it without realising.
entspann dich doch!! behalte immer ein klaren kopf beim start! ich war vor ein a halb monate auch drüben und hatte wirklich spaß am startplatz, denn er ist nicht einfach zu starten aber genau das mag ich! herausforderung... nach 2 tagen war es aber keine herausforderung mehr...nja egal.... trotzdem wahnsinns ausblick! und tolles video!
I am shocked by that all the way around europe each year. Apparently groundhanling is considered not stylish or something. A lot of schools think that letting a pilot know where the toggles are and how to strap in is good enough to fly EN-C wings. This is an impression I got on slopes of Italy, Switzerland, and Germany. I live where winch launch is the only way to get off the ground and not having the skill to launch in any (flyable of course) wind means getting your face smeared across a concrete runway each time. In a couple of months tentative students here start in 90 degree cross winds of moderate strength. Those two launches in the beginning... Why did that first guy stop? Was he afraid of the height suddenly? The nice new wing saved him already by not overshooting. The second pilot... Where were his hands? Why no brakes applied? Confused by reverse start? Why the F try it on a slope for the first time? These are typical errors of untrained people, and their place is in a football field on a windy day, learning all they have to know instinctively and have immediate responses to.
@@NGC1433 That first pilot didn't have the wing above their head. You shouldn't run when the wing is to the side and you also shouldn't run if it's in front of you. That's how you get injured. You can run on flat even if the wing isn't positioned properly. But on a slope, running ahead in such a situation will usually result in a collapse.
@@Salatiels More like 3 years have passed and you're still an ignorant scrub, judging other peoples hobbies, knowing FUCK. ALL. about them. I'm not saying gaming is bad (we play some of the same games, even...), but maybe get out a little more on top of gaming? Just saying...
As a rule of thumb: The performance of the canopy is in inverse proportion with the skills of the pilot (in other words the dumbest pilots have the most powerful gliders)
Looking at all these paraglider accidents I must say that this is the most irresponsible “outdoor activity” ever - why are people trying to throw away their life’s? So stupid and childish …
Why do you clowns do this? I understand adrenaline rushes and living life on the edge, but as soon as you leave the ground it's just a matter of time before severe injury or death. Sorry...
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You were clearly pushed to start as quick as possible. Typical problem at those busy take-off sites. Take it easy, make sure everything is right for you. Just let them wait. Or maybe better look for sites to fly where there's more space to start. We have many of them here in Switzerland. Good luck and take care...
Totally agree. Rushing is the worst thing.
You say he was rushed and I agree. Check out the other extreme at the same site :-)). ruclips.net/video/SY_wBrFxOl0/видео.html
@@DomesticDave LOOL, I loved this second when the other guy gets upset: ruclips.net/video/SY_wBrFxOl0/видео.html
wow thats absurd. that guy was in such a rush. everyone needs to take a deep breath and slow down
Agree. It happens alot at well in oludeniz. You’re pushed to start and it failed launches more likely.
Props for showing the fails along with the good!
Just launch forward. Stay away from busy places like this one.
NEVER let anyone rush you. YOU go as YOU feel ready.
I hope that you are o.k. and not get hurt,
Wish you better luck next time.
Fly Safe,
Ghost Glider
everyone has those days.. it definitely seemed those launching were rushed by the big que. some classic errors , but just part of flying, i've done them all ..
Thanks for posting! I launched from there a few weeks later, and it sure can get a little stressful up there, with a lot of pilots, plus the tourists watching, not a lot of space/time for corrections in the launch phase... But the flight itself was well worth the trouble - spectacular views for sure! Good thing you were OK, happy landings!
Why not go a forward launch in these conditions?
maybe if they used the back half of the launch area where all people are standing about the could get the wing inflated and stable before launching over the bushes
maybe it would have been better to forward launch ? Also after taking off I notice that the pilot seems to turn left. I'd get some hight first before doing any turns or seating in
The problem begins with having to sort your glider beside launch, then carrying it to the actual takeoff. Other pilots only help to get airborne asap, putting unnecessary pressure upon each other resulting in stressed launches that frequently go wrong in one or another way. Being on Hochfelln after the Tegelberg-experience really was a relief!
In that wind a forward launch would have been better option.
Kék Eget ! Sikerekben, élményekben gazdag Új Esztendőt kívánok !!!
reinforces the wisdom that takeoffs and landing are the most dangerous in any kind of flying, not the flying itself :)
I SO agree. I was highly recommendee by so many ppl, including instructors who knew my competency level, to take an SIV.
When I took the SIV, I realized I was not confident enough to judge the weather and take off entirely alone. So all the fancy SIV manoevres didn’t help me much.
This is how the start under pressure ends :)
Thanks for sharing.
One of the possibilities is to always know your skills, you decide (ignore the pressure). Starting lower also allows you to get the wing above your head faster, then adopt the appropriate take off position and big strides. Off u fly! Perhaps cutting back that first line of bushes would help beginners and protect the equipment. Fly well and feel the elements.
I would say go to a place that has consistent wind and learn ground handling. When you have confidence because you really know how to handle your wing the group pressure won't be such a problem.
you can always tell a who have put the time in by the way they ground handle themselves, the flying part is easy...
almost same thing happened to me with no brakes and steeper take-off. my problem was running like hell but applying no brakes in steep take off so it tend to overshoot and bang! 40% left collapse.
I'd be so pissed off if I did that ,bro !
😳😳😳😳
I'd be like 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 the entire time I'm untangling my wing and my lines from those bushes lmao 😅🤣😂
I hate that rushed feeling when everyone is waiting for me to go and they're being impatient.
It's hard to just block them out sometimes.
Why didn't you do an alpine launch?
Too small a site with too many people. Brrr. Not me. I've made a similar mistake and the fact is that with such conditions you feel the pressure. Can't help it.
Ist am Tegelberg Vorwärtsstarten unerwünscht oder gar verboten?
Nee, damit würde man den örtlichen Quatschlaberern nur Gesprächsstoff geben, weil das Vortwärtsstarten viel zu uncool ist.
Looks like a great sport - must take it up.
Wow, now I don't feel so bad about not being able to launch a wing as a beginner. Apparently even someone with a little experience still has problems.
I attended a weekend class on kiting a few weeks ago and, damn, that is pretty strenuous activity. I lack the physical endurance to do much of that kind of thing, which is why I opted for the trike setup.
Although the guy taking the video says he applied too much left brake, I didn’t see the brake lines in his hands as he launched. That is not a great launch site, in my humble opinion.
Ein Horror was da schon in 2011 los war... Drum #hikeandfly über alles!
So erm...how did it happen?
@oCajUmo
was ist den sie schwierigkeit an diesem startplatz?
lg mathias
go somewhere with a bit more wind?
Hauptproblem und typisch für viele Piloten ist die mangelhafte Schirmbeherrschung bei kleinsten und kleinen Störungen. Sorry ist nicht persönlich gemeint. Man sieht das einfach überall.
Never let anyone rush you.
If no wind - forward launch.
Check before leaving the ground
Stay alive and have a good flight
Do it all again
IMO , With no or poor wind and steepy take off I prefer to do a direct launch.
did your wing get any damage from that crash?
What is this called? I've looked into speed flying, base jumping, para motor. Is this paragliding?
Why doing it face toward the wing when no wind ??? Would me much easier with the basic method !
I mean he got the wing up but then hurried out too much, inflate the Wing - turn keep the Wing over your head and THEN acclerate and launch -
If you Don't fly in weather how do you gain experience? Just fly fly fly I suppose.
Unplanned crash mate. That wasn't any landing style I am familiar with!
Amigo, sou do piloto no Brasil. Essa rampa onde vc decolou fica em que lugar do mundo? obrigado.
Emerson Souza alemanha(germany)
+Emerson Souza Por que ele caiu?
Looks like everybody stopped what they were doing to watch this guy
never hurry w8 for the wind
Darum gehe ich nicht mehr an den Tegelberg, hier wird so viel unnötiger Druck der anderen Fliegern ausgeübt, ich habe auch schon Streits erlebt.... ein ganz ungemütliches Klientel!
What actually happened?
to many small movements)))Relax,stay calm,feel the thermals fly away)))You got stressed before you flew.But anyway-Happy landings
That COULD have ben a "scraper"..
Lucky you
I wonder why you guys _always_ try to start reverse facing the wing? With almost no wind the small hesitation needed for the turn often leads to trouble. Next time in these conditions why don't you just try to start facing downhill. Especially with so many supporters they will hold the wing for you for good inflation and you simply run forward and cannot miss!
I am speaking as a seasoned paramotorist and I always start facing forward at low or no wind. Starting reversed is only needed when the wind is high and you really need to pull hard, watch and control the glider (probably run uphill) and then you usually do have time to turn without losing control over your glider.
The third ist a Hero 😀 as first i fly i go to school.....
super area to start
Too crowded. If those people had been back at a respectful distance instead of crowding the launch site as closely as possible, then you would have been fine. You needed a few more steps to run up/launch but all these people were in the way. Don't be scared to tell people to back up and give some space, a lot of the time people just do it without realising.
That looks like fun
Very cool. Looks a bit rushed to be safe
forward launch......why not...seemed like you was rushed by other pilots, specially those helping you by holding you wing up...
entspann dich doch!!
behalte immer ein klaren kopf beim start!
ich war vor ein a halb monate auch drüben und hatte wirklich spaß am startplatz, denn er ist nicht einfach zu starten aber genau das mag ich! herausforderung... nach 2 tagen war es aber keine herausforderung mehr...nja egal.... trotzdem wahnsinns ausblick! und tolles video!
Well, to be honest, they were not helping at all.
Faltou espaço,tem que esticar esta rampa....isto causa muitos acidentes...
Ah das geht schon, Augen zu und durch ;)
silly games, silly prizes
I know these pilots aren't students because of their gliders so why are they acting like them.
I am shocked by that all the way around europe each year. Apparently groundhanling is considered not stylish or something. A lot of schools think that letting a pilot know where the toggles are and how to strap in is good enough to fly EN-C wings. This is an impression I got on slopes of Italy, Switzerland, and Germany. I live where winch launch is the only way to get off the ground and not having the skill to launch in any (flyable of course) wind means getting your face smeared across a concrete runway each time. In a couple of months tentative students here start in 90 degree cross winds of moderate strength.
Those two launches in the beginning... Why did that first guy stop? Was he afraid of the height suddenly? The nice new wing saved him already by not overshooting.
The second pilot... Where were his hands? Why no brakes applied? Confused by reverse start? Why the F try it on a slope for the first time?
These are typical errors of untrained people, and their place is in a football field on a windy day, learning all they have to know instinctively and have immediate responses to.
@@NGC1433 That first pilot didn't have the wing above their head. You shouldn't run when the wing is to the side and you also shouldn't run if it's in front of you. That's how you get injured. You can run on flat even if the wing isn't positioned properly. But on a slope, running ahead in such a situation will usually result in a collapse.
Shortest Flight in History...lol
es gibt so viele andere platze mit km breite abflug moeglichkeiten...nur ein wenig laufen .
estou me preparando aqui no Brasil e Breve estarei Presente nos eventos Mundiais Vaguinho da Rádio
i was at brevent for my first solo flight, my (french) instructor was so impatient he started swearing at me before i took off. complete arsehole.
Es ist noch kein Meister vom Himmel gefallen :)
Suele suceder :P pero no era mala idea intenter con mas pista :P
good landing!!!omg
Do some towing and get your forward launches sorted, then you will be the expert in situations like this and people will go wow.
Oops! 😳
Although quick to ready for flight, paragliders are certainly challenging and time-consuming to launch.
fucking up in the game
Os meninos tem que treinar mais saída de rampa se não o bicho pega
enter lift in wrong moment!
Or buy a paramotor and earplugs ;-).
Holy shite!
hahaha: "okay"
So funny
이륙 직후에 견제를 왜 안하노 견제를 ! 교관은 어디갔노 아무도 봐주는 사람이 없네?
어이쿠~! 10년 전이네. 하하하.
Gravity sucks.
Sehr komische Starte, trotzdem das sind keine Amatäre...
Krusevo Makedonija
Thank you, Captain Obvious!
french instructor - what do you expect?
Try knitting.
Hauptsache, es ist nichts passiert.
:D
What a bad sport, this way of launching needs to be much improved yet
Pfffff, amateur idiot...
@@mcbrite 3 years have passed and I still think it is a shi*ty and unnecessarily dangerous sport.
@@Salatiels More like 3 years have passed and you're still an ignorant scrub, judging other peoples hobbies, knowing FUCK. ALL. about them. I'm not saying gaming is bad (we play some of the same games, even...), but maybe get out a little more on top of gaming? Just saying...
@@mcbrite good luck with that. Hes probably american. Sees sun when he has to hobble his way to KFC because its too late or early for door dash.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 :-D :-D :-D
:)))))
risk to reward.... one of the dumbest sports yet
그리스도는 참된 제사장이 되셔서 저주와 재앙에서 해방되는 길을 열어 주셨습니다. 누구든지 예수를 믿고 영접하면 법적으로 죄와 사망에서 영원히 해방되며 하나님의 자녀가 됩니다. 예수를 믿고 영접하세요. 예수는 그대를 사랑하고 있습니다.
Bro it's fake
nie umie
Ale sie na uczy 😉
As a rule of thumb:
The performance of the canopy is in inverse proportion with the skills of the pilot
(in other words the dumbest pilots have the most powerful gliders)
Utter shit... :-)
Критинос
Looking at all these paraglider accidents I must say that this is the most irresponsible “outdoor activity” ever - why are people trying to throw away their life’s? So stupid and childish …
Why do you clowns do this? I understand adrenaline rushes and living life on the edge, but as soon as you leave the ground it's just a matter of time before severe injury or death. Sorry...
Y los frenos de pulseras o que???
ja moin
If you Don't fly in weather how do you gain experience? Just fly fly fly I suppose.