Audi RS3 v Quattro Rally Car: DRAG RACE
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Audi vs Audi line-ups don’t get much better than this!
Mat’s lining up in the all-new Audi RS3, and he’s facing off against a 1985 Audi Sport Quattro S1 Group B rally car!!
So let’s compare the stats on these two 5 cylinder beasts! Starting with the RS3, it’s powered by a 2.5-litre 5-cylinder turbo that can put down 400hp & 500Nm. It drives all four wheels and weighs in at 1,575kg. A new one today will cost you around £57,000.
Then we have the rally car. It’s up on power compared to the RS3, with its 2.1-litre 5 cylinder turbo producing 500hp & 480Nm. Naturally, it’s also lighter, tipping the scales at 1,090kg. And given its age, it’s worth a whole lot more than the RS3, with an insurance value of £1,700,000!!
However, there’s one key difference compared to the RS3 - it’s equipped with a 6-speed manual! Will that prove the difference? There’s only one way to find out… LET’S RACE!
Mat's RS3 deal: bit.ly/Audi-RS3-Deal-1106
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What’s your favourite classic car??
The audi.
Thanks for soo many likes
69 mustang
s class W140 800sel W18
One of those lovely rolls royces from the 1960s
Aston Martin DB5 :)
The turbo sound from that rally car is so satisfying!
STUTUTUTU
yessiiiir
What turbo sound? It was all wastegate flutter, you couldn't even hear it spool up! Kind of lame really!
@@timfagan816 be gone
It's Audi Quattro bro
Imagine how quick the rally car actually was in its day. Game changer that thing 👊
Forsure! But the brake test showed how far automotives have come when it comes to stopping!!
Ashley, you're quite correct. In the 80's I was one of those fools that wanted to touch that Quattro....while it blasted through a country lane at 90MPH😵💫. I'm sure the car was tweaked to 650BHP back in the day, which would have made this drag race pointless. It was an intoxicating/addictive experience at the time. Imagine if I ever sat in one, I 'd die happy😋
@@rongill1967 - The S1 is a rally car, not a road car, its brakes are well above spec for rally stages, so you can't compare them.
@@rongill1967 There is no ABS in rally cars. :)
Hilarious. I have your latest learning point about the ambulance and temporary lights open and ready to watch on the next tab, Ashley.
Over 30 years apart, that level of performance back then must have been astonishing.
Over 40 years.
Group B is still astonishing.
Yes, and they were banned.
The drivers where crazy too , most of them had a shot of spirit before the stage
@@djkoti74 just the real ones know ☺️
Those group B cars were absolutely insane. That kind of performance available from snow, tarmac, gravel and mud. Just mind boggling...
What a great driver. Obviously the quattro is amazing but manual shifting and winning is amazing
He did some real driving
I was really surprised , the RS3 has 1 more gear , way less downforce/drag. He definitely drove very well
@@OnlyPracticalThings and real drifting.
@@HRM.H yep. As well as Colin McRae.
@@HRM.H The quattro has 100 more hp and weighs 500kg less, 1 more gear and less drag isn't gonna help against that lol
That turbo sound of the sport quattro 😍😍🤤
Its the blow off valve
@@harryluteshi7487 it’s not it’s wastegate noise
@@harryluteshi7487 yep.
@@jason21jburg why?
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0:01 intro
0:19 car info
2:05 sound check
3:06 drag race
4:32 race results
4:43 rolling race 1
5:45 rolling race 2
6:25 brake test
8:05 the end
Thanks for 200 likes I have never got so many likes
The hero we needed, but didn’t deserve
Thank you!
Thanks a lot mate
Freak
@@derektrotter4287 Out?
I'm glad to see the old quattro win. Allways loved that car. It looks like it's build with lego and is just magnificent.
Actually, it can be built with legos. I got the kit and put it together a couple of years ago.
@@usefulidiot21 nice 😎
@@usefulidiot21 that's why stupid Lego could and should do the other group b cars
@@fabiofatsio I'd probably buy them all if they were as good of quality.
Ironically you can buy the Lego set that they made 2 years ago.....
That Quattro is ridiculously fast... imagine how it felt 30 years ago LOL
Must have felt like driving a modern supercar from today, absolutely ridiculous stats for a car made in the 80s.
500hp is a mild rebuild of that engine compared to it's competition build. I'm sure I read in an old Road and Track that it put out something like 640+hp in competition form - of course at that performance level, they would likely need to rebuild it every 3 or 4 races. 500hp from a daily driver version of that little engine isn't too shabby though. I used to have the boring version of that engine in an Audi 90. Even the boring version sounded super nice, but it really didn't start to "sing" until you were going over 110 mph.
its not 30 but almost 40 years ago
LMTO
Maybe he should try racing against this old Golf: ruclips.net/video/R7t4C_0BZT4/видео.html
I wish you had multiple cameras inside that Rally car to see driver’s movements when changing gears etc, interesting race.
Audi Quattro S1 vs Ford GT40 1966 drag race could be good.
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looks to be set up very soft.. id like to see it set up a little stiffer, less like a bucking bronco on gear changes . 40 years on still a beast
@@billyscanlon9862 and legacies gonna live on.
We need cameras in the other cars
Mind boggling how a car from 1985 can beat 35 years of development. Well done.
I can't imagine anyone getting bored of this video, that S1 in full flight is a beautiful scene to witness. Daftest thing about this is that the S1 could replicate the same performance off road as well. Goes to show just how far Group B was ahead of it's time in the 80's.
And still way ahead of all the fancy crap produced today.
I would love if Mat drag race more legendary cars like this insane Quattro Rally!
Okith this drag race is amazing.
Couldn't agree more. It's also great as a reminder for those that remember them as well as an insight into a younger generation who've either heard about them or don't even know they exist.
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I really hope this drag race is not the only video they produced with this car.
@@Freimopp777 Freimopp777, hopefully there will be more.
back when turbos were cool, not just mandatory items to meet efficiency targets
Yep. No turbo. No power.
I mean if u can find urself owning a turbo six or 8 cylinder engine u gonna be enjoying life leaving fools behind my personal car has a 3.0 supercharged v6 it makes over 400hp
@@draggy6544 What car?
@@icxydragon audi s4
@@draggy6544 go APR STAGE 3 , mine 2.0T stage 2 + apr
Puts a smile on my face after knowing the classics will forever live on
Finally! I've been waiting for a real Groub B rallycar dragrace my whole life, that was awesome! Bow before lord!
The sheer ability of that Quattro to simply bugger off is quite incredible
Quattro is one of the GROUP B GOATS.
@@purwantiallan5089 in groupB form they were running a lot more than 500hp. Even revving this one up it sounded tame in comparison. The full fat ones were at 880hp sounded like they were about to blow up at launch.
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@@bigduphusaj162 it even cant last 4km without blowing their engines.
@@bigduphusaj162 they never ran a stage at that power, that's what multiple manufacturers claimed the engines could make. That kind of power would have been group S which never became a thing in the end
That turbo whistle is amazing😍
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Closer than I expected. Great sound, beautiful cars.
Group B cars are so crazy! I would like to see also a Lancia Delta S4, maybe one of the more extreme stages like over 600BHP... It would be amazing! 😎
S1 got a bigger engine as well. And there are s1 with 700 bhp and more,
Awesome dragrace! Now we're talking. Nothing ever touches the SportQuattro. Still watching that Pikes Peak race from back in da days. Thanks for this.
The days when the quattro was the best
10000000 drag race.
Lancia S4.....
Watch the pikes peak video from JP Performance getting tears everytime
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That S1 - it doesn't matter whether it won. It's such an iconic car, all we need is that sound of the motor and its waste gate... Legendary.
It doesnt matter because it got slapped by the lancia AHHAHAAH
@@MARCO-rq2ph not really it was very close you've got to respect both cars
@@MARCO-rq2ph 037 only won when Lancia bent the rules.
@@nmg997 but that does not mean they cheated. The lancia was good enough to compete with the quattro, they just used the rules and the regulations in their favour.
@@MARCO-rq2ph are you ok buddy? 🤡
Love the sound of the baby V10 with those turbo whistles. It is pure heaven and one of my favorite engines!
Two short gears followed by a very long third....where the Q gets into it's stride.
Many fun days spent watching that and it's mad Group B brothers flying round the forests of Wales
The rally car gear change is so satisfying. 😍🤤
@sellia👇 ഹായ് മലയാളി
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Finally it's here.
You don’t want to see it with a DCT Flatshifting
I was 11 in 1985 and this Sport Quattro, the Lancia Delta S4 and the Peugeot 205 T16 were the cars that got me into watching motorsport. I was nervous as hell when I started watching this video that one of my childhood heroes was gonna be beaten and made to look silly. Thank you for not killing my dreams! 😄
Yes, me too!
Remember seeing the 4x4 audi quattro group b car at numerous Lombard RAC venues in the UK. What a beast back then and now up against a modern RS3 and still the beast it was.
If I'm not mistaken the great Hanu Mikkola was pilot to one.
Beautiful memories
A modern Audi RS3 is an extremely cool and fun to drive car. I love them.
An Audi Sport Quattro rally car is a thing of absolute LEGEND. There are no words to express my feelings for them as they go beyond my capacity to share.
What a phenomenally fun race...thanks for making it happen!
Yeah cause you can't afford one.
Given that S1 is 37 years old just goes to show how fast Group B was in the 80's and years ahead of its time. What we need now is a Group B drag race between the S1, RS200, 6r4, 205 T16, Lancia etc, now that would be epic.
I'd be front row for that!
Yes!! Matt, are you reading this? Beg, borrow or steal a Delta S4, Peugeot 205T16 and a Ford RS200. And maybe a works Metro with 400bhp..
Mitsubishi Starion was a group B monster too
They already has an rs200 on one, the turbo blew up too
@@3nd4tom1c8 Yes but that was a rallycross spec one and not a group b one. There is a difference in power between rallycross and group b.
That 5 cylinder waste gate flutter will always be the best sound from any rally car 😎
Yup. Legends never die.
Jeremy Clarkson called it a "squirrel mincer" :-) Apt description!
No wastegate! The pressure releases thru the turbo! Makes this incredible phew, phew, phew sound.
The flutter is cool but it's not the wastegate. There is no bypass or blow off valve so the air flutters in the turbo when the throttle body closes
The most surprising thing I felt about these races was the high-speed pull of the rally car, especially with what must have been huge drag from that aero...!
Impressive... 😎
One of my favorite drags you guys have done! Nothing better than a 5 pot
And now imagine how fast this thing was back in the days. They obviously want to save all the original components and drive with much less power than it used to have. This thing was capable of 700hp+! So probably a 10 something 1/4 mile time, with a manual that is insane!
I've got an old book about the quattro in actual rallying, and if i remember correct, they clocked 2.5 seonds for 0-100 kph on asphalt and not really much more on gravel. (and they managed that with way less than 700 hp, i would also argue that Audi reduces the power on the historic cars even below 500 hp to elongate the life of the parts)
I seem to remember reading that Audi had an engine in development around the 1000hp mark when Group B was banned.
something tells me than the new 2,5 litre, that is capable of over 700 hp has some similarities with the old quattro engines... that noises of the engine in the quattro also seem to have something to do with the new 2,5l 5 cylinder (without soft limiter of course:-))... you can hear that especially in the higher RPM... and both of them are capable of huge powers...
@@nirfz they said it to ken block when he was visiting the museum . some of these engines are so unique replacing something will be pretty much impossible to do
The E2 ran at 560bhp in the 86 Portugal Rally, the most powerful rally car ever entered into a WRC event. It ran a maximum 590bhp for the 87 Pikes Peak event. This engine did go onto produce 710BHP for the final 5 events in the 90 IMSA Quattro in 1989.
the fact the quattro is still great in todays standards absolutely boggles me, imagine what it wouldve been like in '85?
Insane. That´s what it was :p
Walter rohl said it was like driving a formula 1 car in the woods
Some1 said that the s1 was so fast they couldn’t go flat out bc their brain couldn’t react fast enough
The wild thing is that the quattro is made to ride on dirt. It's so close to the RS3 on tarmac but imagine the same race on a gravel or dirt road!
In '85 it was the same as today.
Lord have mercy, the way the S1 moves - art!😍
I'd love to see a series of S1 Vs modern cars Matt!!
Those turbo flutters on the rally car🔥😍
The 2.5tfsi makes the same noise just much quieter 🤪
@@lewiscannon8213 yep. And much quicker.
@@lewiscannon8213 no it doesn't lol.....the flutter is compressor stall because they never fitted dump valves to the rally cars only wastegates...the turbo flutter is compressor stall because it can't dump the boost and the impellor stalls....
@@Slapbladder OK , I imagined the whistle /chatter noise my rs3 made when sending it .
How the heck did you get my two favorite Audi dream cars in a drag race
Short and sweet. These videos, I've missed
When the RS3 heard the TUTUTU he must have instantly known: Grandpa is gonna smoke me today
its so insane that they have managed to make a car that can go toe to toe with a car 40 years newer than itself.
Yup. More like 40 grand.
Well one is a street car and one was engineered to be as fast as possible, if they were to compared it to new age cars like it then it wouldn't stand a chance.
I love the RS 3, but I love that rally car even more ~~ That thing has still got it even after 37 years, and it still looks like it runs new.
@@Fizzglg new age cars??? As in the RS3?
@@NSUScooter I said "like it" as in a super modified gutted race car🤨
I had a smile from ear to ear listening to that quattro turbo sound and when he changed gears the nosedive 😁😁😁😁
I love you for that video. That was EPIC. Keep on doing that!
Such a legendary car deserved the win even tho it wasn't built for drag race 🔥🏆
It just shows how insane the quattro s1e2 is, a rocket to say the least. No comments for the sound, easily the best sounding car
I still prefer a raw NA high-revving V10 like the Porsche CGT or F1 engines, but this is easily 2nd best for me ...sorry V12 !
"easily the best sounding car". That's a comment you fool
Season 1 episode 2???
The best shift "stututu" to ever come from a car, it Just never gets old.
Best race this channel has shown!
This has to be one of the best drag races y’all have done!
For a mid eighties manual car, that's really impressive. Would love to have seen the RS200 in a drag race too.
I really like the way you instantly showed us the drag race
I enjoy all your vids. But that was special 😁😁👌👌
took me back to my younger years.. my poster car of the 80's .. loved that .. especially that turbo whistle 😍
This video demonstrates perfectly how far ahead from their time Group B cars were... 40 years after...
The turbo whistles so satisfying 😍🥰
Love the theme coloured text for the car specs :)
Be nice if you guys included trap speed in your time results, ET doesn't always tells the full story.
We have been asking for traps for years lol.
These races are super fun but probably shouldn't be used as gospel haha
@@stinger15au Yeah, they're hardly scientific
Been asking for speedo camera too but still waiting...
The Urquattro is a legendary piece of art. As a German I loved watching Walter Röhrl playing with this monster.
A view of the S1's instruments panel with Boost and rpm would have been nice!
Shocking results. I did launch control in my Audi earlier today. It still puts a grin on my face.
Amazing to see how close a modern consumer car is compared to a Group B car. Please do more of these Matt!!!
On a rally stage would be interesting. I mean if the modern car will be in one piece. I mean compare it in its natural habitat. The runway is the modern one.
Well it is like 40 years of engineering.
@KOLA Flipper The Group B car is 37 years old and still showed the RS3 a clean pair of heels. If anything this video goes to show just how fast Group B cars were in the mid 80's and not how fast the 2022 RS3 is.
Thing is, that Quattro will still do the same speed on the rough stuff
In rally setup the Group B car would have had at least a 150bhp more. And it also got 0.4L displacement less... 40 years is a long time, so it's really the amazing the car is still hard to beat 40 years later ... On tarmack, in a straight line, by a dual clutch automatic... It really was alien tech for its time !
Group B was insane. No shame in losing to that type of car.
Turbo + AWD = Happiness! Thanks for this video, guys!
Loved the Quattro rally car back in the day and I loved this video!
As much as I love that Audi RS 3, that SportQuattro rally car was insane to say the least :O It still has it even after 37 years. In the rolling race from 50 mph in 3rd gear, that rally car took off like a Ferrari RWD car OMG.
Who else secretly wanted the rally car to win? I can't even imagine what this thing was like 36 years ago on a rally stage without all the fancy electronics from today.
What fancy electronics? The WRC cars of today don’t even have center diffs. If you want to see a lot of electronics you have to go back 25 or more years
The secret is rally car is just structure this car don’t have components like aircon etc, so if you put the same components in the rally car probably lose very easy
Why secretly?
@@DaShitProductions in comparison to the RS3. The new RS3 has a haldex system which is controlled largely by software to limit slip. Even more so on the latest version.
In comparison the old rally car had a mechanical system.
You really think the cars of today either rally or road have less software and electronics of those 25 years ago. Really? Have you actually watched a WRC race?
@@fitnessfanatic1450 Yes I’ve watched WRC for countless years and know the regulations. Have you ever owned or done any reaearch on a late Group A rally car or early WRC? The cars back then had electronically controlled differentials, all which are banned today. Modern WRC cars have 5 speed gearboxes, 50:50 torque split, mechanical lsd’s, no abs, no traction control and no electronic driver aids. WRC cars from 25 years ago were much more complex due to regulations allowing it
Love the sound of that thing with its dump valve whistling away
Do another race like this mat 🔥🔥
Of course it lost the braking test, they didn’t use brakes in Group B rally! They would stab the brakes once every 2hrs, and then use the brakes again after they loaded it back on the truck. That thing still has the same brake pads from 1985🤣
I laughed so hard on the '3rd gear' race. So much for that whole turbo lag theory. 🤣🤣🤣
there is no turbo hole in this car.
Short gearing probably helped. 3rd gear in one car isn't exactly the same as 3rd gear in another. Acceleration comparisons in "the same" gear are always to be taken with a grain or a truckload of salt.
That dumbvalve sound of that turbo of the S1! Love that sound! 🤤
Best race yet that turbo sound is amazing
The crazy thing is they're running very "conservative" numbers on the Sport Quattro in order to preserve the engine and gearbox. They're running low boost pressure if Im not mistake somewhere between 0.5 and 1.0 bar.
Probably 1 bar, it's a relatively low compression turbo engine from the 80s, it needs boost to make any power.
@@shaggings it runs a low compression specifcally to allow it to run high boost, not the other way around .
@@ahemgee9542 yes, that is exactly what I said...
I know how engines work, I went to school to be a mechanic.
What I am saying is that it is likely running 1.0 bar to make the 500hp it is making in this video cause likely with half a bar it won't make even 500...
I have this image in my head of an Audi S1 quattro flying in the air, flames going out the exhaust and photographers running out of the way in the very last second... EPIC car this is.
Making a project about the rally. Thank you carwow
I love Group B rally cars, so thanks for this vid! :)
One of the best drag races. Thanks guys 👏🏼😀.
I like the wave of videos carwow put up just when you start missing them.
Ian from Iwrocker reacted to your video and I had to pop over and say that I am impressed where technological advances are at a point where a car designed to be civil on the road can almost compete with a dedicated Group B monster. That's not too bad. EDIT: I've also subbed. I didn't know of your channel prior to Ian's reaction video.
Thier was a 2.2 s2 quattro aswell pure road weapon love them that turbo boost whistle is quailty one the best drag races of this channel
lots of others trying to copy you but your's are still the best car videos by some margin matt. always look forward to Saturday drag race!😊
Incredible how sport sedans nowadays put out same performances like supercars 20 years ago.
Can't wait to see what future generations will bring
Electric shit
tf you talking about if its not street legal its not comparable… compare it to a modern rallye car … difference would be huge
@@God-gp1qu he said supercars from 20 years ago, like actual supercars
@@God-gp1qu Rally cars are road legal though. You can see the number plates on the quattro
@@God-gp1qu FYI that Audi rally car is street legal, all rally cars are street legal.
Part of rallying is driving on public highways between stages 🤷♂️
One of your best drag races!
Matt, the footage if you have it of the s1 from inside, during this video, would be something we would all love to watch and listen to. 👍
This is the race we have all been waiting for! 😁. Gracias amigo 🤝🏼
That s1 sounds so dam good. Gives me chills down the spine.
I actually enjoyed that Matt. No ‘Warming up the tyres’ 🙄 in this one made things much better - just got on with it. 👍🏽 The turbo flutter on the Quattro between gear changes is fabulous, and the RS3 didn’t embarrass itself at all. Good video. 👏🏽
Haven't laugh so much in a while... Brilliant 🤣👌
Mat you and Yianni are my favourite car reviewers and drag racers ever and I love you both so much!
A proof that tough engine, sututu turbo, low weight and great driver can beat high tech in a modern car. Even with manual gearbox, impressive.
Not so much in a rally stage though. Current Rally1 (or even 2017 WRC+ cars) will probably eat it for breakfast.
Still, that just shows how much the progress of tech in rally cars has been.
@@AbrahamArthemius Is it fair to compare to these newer rally cars though?
In a rally stage for sure, but I meant these cars are separated by 40 years, so this shows how powerful "vorsprung durch technik" was back in the days.
Yet still it is hard to compare a comfortable daily limousine and a wild rally car, I only wanted to point out the matter of weight and driver.
That start up then....BOOM!
Really nice, loved this one.
I honestly feel the RS3 is the modern spiritual successor to the Quottro S2.
Would love to see an RS3 sedan in either white or yellow with the same yellow white black decal scheme and an aero kit, it would look amazing.
Also with the 3rd gear roll on, I feel Matt underestimated the short gearing in the group B rally car having no overdrive gears like the RS3 no doubt would have.
RS3 in 3rd Quattro in 4th would of been more closely matched.
My pops had a UR-S4. While not even close to a group B Quattro it was pretty quick off the line. That 3rd and 4th gear pull was something pretty special, it appears they used similar gearing in the road cars of the early 90s.
This probably has to be my favourite Carwow video over the past few years
Noise of that dump valve in the quattro is so satisfying to me.
Congratulations, Dr.Evil has got you one more subscriber! :D
The Rally car suffers one other big issue: tires. If the Quattro had modern tyres, you can easily cut at least half a second off the quarter.
And less braking distance
@@razor_ramon_ True, although it does not have ABS. It's useful for a rally car (at least during that period) to not have ABS, it gives the driver more control.
Exactly
I hope you can get more cars from the Audi heritage fleet. Great vid, thank you.
I’m not a car wow fan but had to watch the retro vs new challenger and this was really good and gets a thumbs up.
The dump valve, I could listen to that all-day