Audi R8 v Quattro Rally Car: DRAG RACE
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Who’s ready for a two-way Audi showdown!
Mat’s got his hands on the Audi R8 V10 Performance Spyder, and he’s facing off against a 1985 Audi Sport Quattro S1 Group B rally car!!
Let’s take a look at how these Audis compare. Starting with the R8, it’s powered by a mid-mounted 5.2-litre naturally-aspirated V10 that can put down 620hp & 580Nm of torque. It drives all four wheels, and it tips the scales at just under 1,700kg. It’s also pretty pricey, with a starting price of £162,000!
But trust us, that’s nothing compared to the rally car, which has been insured to a value of £1,700,000!! In terms of power, its engine is certainly smaller than the R8’s, with a 2.1-litre 5-cylinder turbo under the bonnet that’s good for 500hp & 480Nm. It’s also equipped with all-wheel drive, though, and it’s certainly lighter than the R8, weighing in at 1,090kg.
So the R8 is more powerful, but will the difference in weight push the Quattro rally car to victory? There’s only one way to find out - LET’S RACE!
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Let’s take a moment to reflect on how a 1980’s rally car can do the quarter mile in 11 seconds…with a manual gearbox. Wow!
And that driver was launching it like a god, like whoa, that is hard af to launch if we know abt cars, which we all know abt !!!
Damn,,,
At it was detuned to 500hp 💥💥🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐
I wonder how fast it would do it on gravel.
much prefer the rally car over the hairdressers car !!. Classic. Modern cars are so so boring !!. Love going out in my TreVoR, It's 25 years old and has a proper gear knob and no driver aids nearly killed me once but as a driving experience it's amazing !!. Make you feel alive ! (so long as you don't push it to it's limits !).
And on an unprepped surface!
Glad the SportQuattro S1 is getting the recognition again that it deserves, and the youngsters get to know what a real car is and sounds like. ☺
I couldn’t agree more !!
It’s a great car the S1 although the R8 with a N/A V10 sounds pretty real to me lol
I think there hasnt been a single moment in history where it didn't get its regnognition. Literally every car fan knows this car
I loved the quattro when I was a kid (I'm 15 rn) and I had a poster of it
@@bruhinthebruhwiththebruh1370 are you a man now? xD
The gear changes in the S1 look insane!!
They looked brutal
@Damar Fadlan underrated?, more like the quintessential car everyone thinks about when Group B is the topic
@@jans6252 Maybe meant to say detuned. 500hp for those things is the safe setup. Theyd push a lot more if needed.
The s1 probably has a quicker gear change than your average manual too and that video really does show the advantage that those dsg type boxes give when you're trying to get down the road in a hurry. I have heard though that the likes of the golf r with a manual box has a totally different feel to it and is a lot more enjoyable than the dsg boxed golf r when getting thrown down a twisty back road.
@@lknowledge yip, they found variable stacks in some of the the 6r4 airboxes about 10yr after GroupB was over. They claimed 6R4 was 370-420bhp depending on air restrictor but the reality is even they N/A V6s were pushing 500bhp with the variable inlet stacks and all that. Listen to some of the 6R4 footage, you can hear the thing sounding chunky as F-ck around the 3200rpm which wasn't when the cam profile went nuts so clearly that was variable inlet stacks giving that visible boost of power. When cameras were mounted inside the 6r4 would shake like a mofo and go blurry at 3200rpm which again is a trait of variable inlet stacks. Toyota got caught later in normal WRC with a variable inlet on the turbo cold side it would suck open an outer vairable stack on the turbo inlet hose under heavy boost and give the thing loads more torque and a chunk of bhp.. they were all doing that in GroupB and keeping it quiet, that's where they learned it.
As someone that was 16 when S1's, T16's, RS200's, 6R4's and S4's were flying past my house in South Wales on an RAC Rally special stage, and what got me in to cars in the first place, that turbo flutter brought back awesome memories of these beasts at full chat.
Living a KM from the RAC service stop in South Wales and meeting Markku Alen, Timo Salonen, Juha Kankkunen, Michele Mouton, Tony Pond, Hannu Mikkola, Stig Blomquist, Ari Vatanen and many more Group B drivers from that era and many others from Group A onwards was an absolute privilege as you had to be a sandwich short of a picnic to drive these turbo nutter b@stards over forest and gravel roads.
well ur so fucking lucky mate!
I'm a south wales lad as well, any places round here that still host rally events? only thing local I can think of is Pembrey, besn there a bunch but I'm not aware of anything else
can we just appreciate how a car from the 1980s, built to go on dirt roads in a forest, can somewhat keep up with a modern supercar. Tha's absolutely nuts
Some late 80s supercars can do the same on asphalt. The part is that the group b rally car had regulations on engine displacement
And knowing the Audi Quattro is not even the fastest accelerating car from groub b just makes it more insane to know a old 5cil car can keep up with a modern lambo v10
@@rodeduivel1000 that "Lambo" V10 was designed and built by Audi... Lambo just buys them...
@@AndrasMihalyi yea i know , but the huracan is more "known" imo so i always just call it a lambo v10 even tho it's a Audi engine 🤣🤣
Just like i always do to a friend of mine who's dreamride is a caddy cts-v , i just call it a sedan corvette
Right? That is why it destroyed everything back then lol...
The S1 is actually de-tuned from the original Group B spec to preserve components. It's still awesome to see how it's performance holds up to current supercars
650hp was the maximum right ?
@@hybridShinx It had 650hp indeed, in that setting it would have made mince meat of the R8.
@@Tom-Lahaye the R8 can go little over 210mph while the Quattro rallycar probably max out at 200mph since its not built for speed
0:48 to clarify the PDK thing: that was back in the S1‘s racing time. Audi thought of ways to optimise the S1 and back then Porsche used a 5 speed double clutch system in their top tier lemans prototypes. So Audi went to Porsche Consulting and had them adapt that system for the S1. It took really long to get that thing perfected to Audis standards but once it was perfect the rally drivers and co-pilots actually didn’t like it much because it made the car too fast and they missed the speed/course reference a manual gearshift gives you. And then on the first rally where they used it Walter Röhl crashed the car so then they terminated the project and went back to manual for the next rally
Suffering from success
@@stevess7777 i've won... but at what cost?
Here is some footage from the pdk equipped quattro: ruclips.net/video/JFEdIu5N3p0/видео.html. You can tell its the dual-clutch from its distinct sound on upshifts.
Well obviously from the past Porsche owns Volkswagen…which then owns Audi…so Porsche tech always goes in to Audi…Audi Lemans success was actually a Porsche made too if we go in seriously..
@@jskim8418 Volkswagen owns Porsche, not the other way around.
I suppose it highlights 2 things - just how good the 80's hyper-Rally car was, and how much technology has moved things on in production cars - but it did take a top-rung Supercar to take-on / equal that 80's hyper-Rally car.
Now let's see how well the R8 does on a gravel rally stage!?
Definitely not gonna perform that well, due to how low the car is, and the fact the suspension isn’t meant for those tracks. If it was however modified in such a way that gave it a higher ride height, new tires, etc, then that’d be interesting to see.
@@dreadhavoc you really took that comment seriously 😂
Gonna be a longer video
@@BM_PAZ Yes, I did. Problem?
@@dreadhavoc 😂😂😂
I really would like to see an onboard of Steve's launch and shifts. That would be awesome!
The stranger things part was so unexpected and so spot on! Good work car wow
I don’t understand what is that from? So weird lol.
Flew past me, don't care for that show.
@@gobinduppal4429 it si from the séries Stranger Things on Netflix
@@MrMuz99 ok
@@tf259 - 👍
One of the most fun races on carwow 😂 Bravo for that old Audi and driver! I loved the Stranger Things vibes in the video 😄
9:20 the editor is a person of culture.
I have this image in my mind of an Audi S1 quattro flying in the air, flames going out of the exhaust and photographers running out of the way in the very last moment... What a legendary car that is.
3:18 & 3:29 You can't beat that Turbo flutter! Absolutely incredible.
You can ;) But only with supercharger whine :)
A fair comparison would be with a racing exhaust in the R8
And 8:14
@@kpsig still unfair lol. 5 Cylinders > 10 Cylinders.
And launch is insane
Thanks for this video, as a Group B fan I always wondered what this beast can do on tarmac. 11 second is frickin amazing! Now I seriously think nothing can beat that car on dirt/gravel.
Whoever decided to throw in that Stranger Things themed edit at 4:48 is a LEGEND!!
Yeah the editors doing over time videos just get better and better each time, love it 👍
Considering the Quattro can do what is does on tarmac then do the same on mud, gravel, snow etc. and is an antique just shows how far ahead of their time the legends of group B were. It never gets old!
Great race. I am so happy that the rally car won, I was in despair after the 1st round.
You and me both. Great comeback.
@@kingjulien9525 i think it is detuned so not exactly at full rally power
Some sex bot copied your comment and got double the amount of things thumbs up you got.
Love that sound of the turbo. Back in the 80's my father drove the regular Ur-Quattro originally raced by Michele Mouton.
Mat you never fails to entertain, amaze and excite us!
Okith why you always commenting so much. U realise they aren't gonna pay u right?
@@samuelharris2473 its a bot.
One of the best races IMO. I grew up loving the S1 and the coupe GTs here in the states! Thanks Mat, really enjoyed you showing how this 80s icon was so far ahead of it's time.
I think Steve was lulling you in to a false sense of security with that first race! Well done!
(Those R8 rims look awesome btw)
Thanks
9:20 that edit 🤣 pure gold
He gains 10hp each time he says “come on”😂 8:20🤣
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@@MiKiMiStRz 🤓
Steve jumped start on 3rd race .. mat timing was actually spot on.. when his hands started to go down he let go of his brakes whereas Steve moved off millisecond’s quicker
The sound of the two car seemed quite similar to me .....but that 5cyl is magnificent.
5 cyl tend to sound like 10 cyl
5cyl engines are known as mini V10s
@@archechme I really love 5 cylinders. It’s quite the shame that such few carmakers use them :(
@@i.s.3458 They're not produced any more. As far as I know, it's only Volkswagen-Audi group who still produces them.
Yeah I mean Audi's current 5 cylinder engines are pretty much mini versions of the V10s in the Lamborghini Huracan and Audi R8. So an RS 3, RS Q3, and TT RS will sound similar to the R8.
Just want to appreciate the editor's work! The dark stormy clouds, the suspense, the Villan Mat! Awesome work! 👍
Hearing the two Quattro S1's at Goodwood last week was something else. Always wanted to hear one, so hearing two was even more amazing.
When I see that Car do a 1/4 mile in 11 seconds with a manual gearbox, I remember the dialoge said by Sean in Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift. "It's not the ride, it's the Driver".
It's another insane legendary drag race!
You've not used this one for a while.
Just stunning to watch theses drag races with the old Quattro . Makes you feel alive.
4:52 that editing-pure gold 🤣👍
That’s got to be my favourite one so far. Brilliant
Why are these so addictive? 😄
Drag race with smugglers in future Nick?
Why are your videos addictive too ????😃
@@juddphilby9015 yep.
OMG two worlds collide- you need to collab and do a car vs jet boat drag race!!!
Are we seeing your Merc on this channel soon for a drag race?
What an absolute icon that S1 is.... Just incredible.
Gotta love the Group B Quattro. Had it been in full tune of the era, it would've been running at around 600hp. Also, it's not really been designed for high speed stuff as you don't normally need much over 130mph in rallying.
Exactly, you only need 120mph or so in forests, gravel, or even tarmac stages. It is all about adhesion and cornering. That it is still so good at drag racing, even with a detuned engine, is amazing.
‘What exactly happened?’ Mat let the Audi win, that’s what
What an amazing race! The sound of the V10 vs the Turbo is amazing! Can’t decide what I love more of, but those turbo flutters are just irresistible!
That is what 40 years of evolution does to cars. Awesome to see the S1 again.
When the launch is right, shows how fast these cars were in 1986
Yeah and FIA in that year even thinking about group S rally like this quattro with got add more 500 HP in it i mean 1000hp and 1090kg WTF that is hilariously stupid fast:))
I was rooting for that little Quattro the entire way. What an absolutely AMAZING little car!
What an incredible launch! 👏🏼
Finally people can see the real S1 in action, what an incredible machine, what a great driver too. 10/10 video.
Audi cars are always fun to watch , nice video Matt !
I think for old vs new cars, you should do a race with all the electronics off to see the difference
11 second! That's insane 😳. Faster than a E63s AMG
Heavy pile of wank that car
Considering the weight of the E63s, i guess it is fair enough
E63 weights twice as much and has “only” 100ish hrsprs more, so. Kinda understandable
And with 100hp less than the old days...
and in the rain! the e63s was tested dry
Matt, thank you for bringing this legend in that drag race. Amazing car with a skillful driver. Yet another great video!
Amazing race as always! 🎯😎
Performance = New Audi
Emotions = Classic Group B Legend
That R8 sounds amazing when it is running in the race
I´m very happy to see the Audi SportQuattro S1 in the channel!!! Excellent drag race!!!
That R8 & the weather. Loving it. 😍
4:50 that Stranger Things clock sound got me so good
Matt need to drag race your daily driver against your friend's cars 😂😂
9:21 that was brilliant, got me cracked 😁😁
I love the Quattro Rally Car and the Audi R8! Both are legendary cars!
what exactly makes the R8 legendary?What has it won?
@@sergiukawa the engine in it its basically a better huracan
@@sergiukawa The Audi R8 has won many races, not the car itself but the chassis has in its race car variants.
@@sergiukawa uhm... excuse me, what do you mean by what has it won ? Currently it is one of the most sucsessful GT cars it has won six 24 hours of Nürburgring in ten years, it keeps winning in different kinds of europe and asia GT series. Also i am not most certainly an expert on engines or tuning them but on the internet people keep getting stupid amount of horsepowers out of it with ''bolt on'' kits
@@aettaha6533 Yes!
Best video yet, I've watched it several times, the iconic S1 Quattro... the sound, those gear changes, that launch, that's car porn right there! Thanks Mat, brilliant
Mat you and Yianni are my favourite car reviewers and drag racers ever and I love you both so much!
Yianni is a 🔔🔚. He doesn't review cars.
Goes to show how incredibly insane group B was. And that’s manual vs dual clutch
You can rev the car by putting it into neutral when it’s rolling and then there won’t be any limiter
It is incredible how this old quattro beats an actual r8 in a dragrace with "just" 500hp (120hp less than the r8) Not to think about what was going on with his beast when audi put in up to over 700hp it in group b. This car is a monster on 4 wheels and after 40 years it's allready smashing new supercars like in it's best years back then. This car is the definition of a supercar! Almost unbeatable for over 40 years, incredible I can't belive my eyes.
0:59 a 5 cylinder engine have 500 hp!! Also that from a 1980's rally car!
@Republicshallriseagain but why new cars with 4 cylinder engines have no where near power as this
Can't get enough of that "chirp". It's intoxicating! Great race
What I would love to see next is comparison between S1 and recent rally cars - S2000, R5, WRC 2.0 litre, WRC 1,6 litre etc. Do you think you can pull it off?:-) In this video it was great to see the difference when S1 driver got used to the car after 1st race.
They're not that different in speed nowadays from group b days through the courses.
Top power is down.
There are rallycross classes that have faster cars with different regulation.
@@lasskinn474 Well, that's the point - top power is down on newer cars. I follow rally so I am familiar with typical power & torque figures for each of these categories. Newer cars have much more efficient drivetrains with less mechanical losses and sequential gearboxes. And I have no doubt that even S2000 car would be quicker on actual courses than Quattro S1, the handling is that much better nowadays, it is quite frankly amazing. But my guess is that properly launched Quattro would be quicker at the 1/4 mile than anything all the way up to 2017-2021 1,6 litre WRC with about 380 HP. 2022 1,6l hybrids have 500+ HP. I would've guessed times in high 10s for 2017 car and at least low 10s for 2022 hybrids.
@@Ariskot007 yea it would be still an interesting thing to see. the advantage with a modern car would (in my guess) come from having power available on a wider band, especially with the 2022.
maybe a quarter mile with a jump distance test at the end.
well anything with rally cars being tested just not for pr purposes of the teams would be interesting thing to see really.
The Quattro S1 again! I never get tired of seeing this car.
The Audi R8 has a 5.2 liter naturally aspirated V10 engine... That's dope 😘❤
That “I don’t think you’ve any idea how fast I am” 😂😂😂
Anyone in the Quattro Rally Car have a chance of death due to over excitement! Like always I agree with you Mat!
What the f###!! You need reprogramming.. silly bot..
The driver in rally car with stick shifter and no launch control deserves a standing ovation.
I'm starting to think that these two engines have something in common.
What a genius you are...🤦♂️
@@sylvaind.6786 Yeep you are not getting me YIKES
There's 0 confirmation that these 2 engines are related the v10 audi/lambo is based in indirectly in the Lambo v8 engine 1971-1988 "genius " and comming from the audi side based in the 4.2l V8 FSI "genius "
@@coach4050 The Audi/Lambo V10 5.2 as used in the R8 and Huracan were based on the Audi V8. The old 5.0 Lambo V10 as used in the pre facelift Gallardo was developed out of the older V10 used in multiple concept cars. The Audi engines have 90 mm bore spacing while the Lambo engines have 88 mm bore spacing.
@@reneengelke3218 I already know that
5 vs 10
5 cylinders won.
Perfection. And that turbine sound! 🤤🥰
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The rally Audi Quattro is my favourite beast (along with the Lancia Delta S4)...although in this video you can see how the car starts before the mark
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9.21 i think we spotted the myth the legend the one and only CAMERAMAN. Now i can die peacefully.
First
Definitely first
Nobody cares
@@BuckINtion I care
It’s not a secret that rally cars are designed to launch faster then any car on the road. But watching a driver that knows exactly what he is doing, makes it that more satisfying to watch.
This is one of those competitions where I can't pick a side. Love both of these cars.
evil laugh was pretty cool!😂
first time i saw the S1 with the pdk box was in a vid of the '85 RAC rally. that thing shot down the straights like something else ...
4:50 Vecna came from nowhere 😂😂
That launch is piece of art
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Just wow
Never expect the quattro to be a challenge against V10.
Well done and amazing
Seen a Quattro in Dalby Forest in about 1985.Was night stage in Lombard RAC.What a beast.As i was young i remember hearing it about a minute or so away.Then panic as scurrying to hide behind a tree.Then could see the headlights.Rooooooooooooar as it went past maybe 6 or 7 metres away what a memory.I don't actually remember seeing it really it was so fast.I also remember a hillclimb in the mid 80's called Shalsley Walsh in Worcestershire.I can't remember the driver but definitely a works Audi and it murdered all the other times set by different cars Amazing car and be remembered long after an Audi R8 is in scrapyard.
4:48 that st reference, props to the editor!
Awesome races, the editing was funny and entertaining too thanks!
r8 launch: computers precisely calculating how much power gets sent to both axles in order to get optimum traction at all times
quattro launch: LMAO FLOOR IT AND DROP THE CLUTCH
Great race and absolutely love the sound of the turbo on the rally car
Absolutely beautiful piece of 80s engineering. Period.
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This Audi drag race is legendary. Thanks Carwow!
We need a Group B test next! Audi Quattro vs Lancia Delta vs Peugeot 205 vs Metro 6R4 vs Ford RS200 would surely break the internet!?
Also that noise from the angry mouse sneezing under the bonnet of the Quattro between gear changes is just 👌🏻
Finally you found you jump starting match
Never thought a video could Wow me that many time! Kudos to the video editor … when the screen turned red though, ‘things’ got ‘strange’😶🌫️🤣
I respect how he knew he jumped the third race and decided to give him the win
Hannu stated that this car id missing around 100 horsepower from its competition days.
It id no longer umluft - all the umluft systems were removed from the cars subsequently.
Holy crap, i think this was the first time ever that anyone actually made Mat launches look slow! No shit, but this is damn impressive, not kidding!
I could never express how thankful I am for the videos you upload man , this channel has brought me so many smiles 🙏 including your dumb ass jokes 🤣🤣🤣 that's the best part 😅 my parents don't like you 😂 they say your annoying 😂 but they can't take their eyes off the screen when I play the vids 🤣👏🔥
I have never cheered so badly for a drag race ever. GO S1!
Nothing compares to that 80s volcano! Awesome car. Reminds me of my old 87 Quattro Coupe. What a fantastic noise that made.