Cheapest 6s Combo on Ebay.. Is it worth it??? Surpass Hobby 150 AMP RC ESC Brushless Review

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @kinglucky1314
    @kinglucky1314 Год назад +1

    Thxs cause this was the only video I could find on this brushless great info to know

  • @REPORODGE
    @REPORODGE Год назад +3

    Just remember what ya should’ve learned at 6 years old. WATER AND ELECTRIC DONT GO WELL! The Chinese ain’t court on yet lol !

  • @vacuumpowered6119
    @vacuumpowered6119 2 года назад +5

    The 120 amp version of this esc is rated for 4s.. i have a 120 amp version and i use it on 4s in a 1/8 scale buggy (4274 brushless motor) and had no problem for 8 months and its still working to this day

    • @soumiksaha720
      @soumiksaha720 10 месяцев назад

      @vacuumpowered6119 I want to buy surpass hobby 120a esc with 3660 3800kv motor and will run it only 3s battery. Is your esc still ok? Please share your experience?

    • @scottporter463
      @scottporter463 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@soumiksaha720 I'm running the 2250 kv motor with 120a ESC on 3s in my 1/8 truck have been for 2 years no problems

  • @stephentooth3327
    @stephentooth3327 3 года назад +5

    Got the same combo for my 6s exb, esc burnt not even 10mins into first proper run. Ran it to test for a couple of mins previously was dry weather but it burnt almost right after cartwheeling the car. Motor still works great thou no complaints there. I got a hobbywing esc to replace it

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад +1

      did it burn the battery also or just the esc? i had a lipo catch fire on me after a bad wreck with my buggy, it burned out my original hobby wing esc, thats why i gave this one a try. the only other thing i can think of is over gearing for the surface you were driving on..

    • @stephentooth3327
      @stephentooth3327 3 года назад

      @@williamblanks8500 Nope battery was fine. I think I got to it quick enough it didnt damage anything else just smoke and a little fire which could have been bad i was running it in a short grass field but it was pretty dry middle of australian summer. It wasnt a bad wreck it was just a tumble wheel to wheel like 4-5 times kratons cartwheel really well my thoughts were a bad soldier joint on the pcb at the battery connection

    • @franciscoduran3688
      @franciscoduran3688 2 года назад

      oh shit... I´m wondering, how do you extingish such an fire?

    • @stephentooth3327
      @stephentooth3327 2 года назад

      @@franciscoduran3688 i was lucky flip the body shell at it and it went out it wasn't bad theres not much in them thats super flamable, but if your lipos go up your in for a bad day

  • @RCRoads
    @RCRoads 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing. I was considering getting one but don't really want to worry about water damage. I guess if you replaced the fan and only ran 4s your probably not going to have issues. I guess the heat from the fan on fire transferred heat into the ESC. Sorry to see your receiver took on water. Same thing happened to me and it barely got wet.

  • @scottporter463
    @scottporter463 5 месяцев назад

    I have the surpass 2250kv motor in my 1/8 truck with 120a esc was thinking of getting the 150a to go 6s is it worth it thanks

  • @callumratcliffe7402
    @callumratcliffe7402 Год назад +1

    IVE JUST BOUGHT THE 1/8 2000KV MOTOR AND ESC COMBO DO YOU NEED A PROGGRAMMING CARD AS IT SAYS IT IS RTR PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP PLEASE BROTHER!!!

    • @kocarolinaent
      @kocarolinaent Год назад

      Yes, I’m not sure if you have to have it or not.. but it sure makes things a lot easier..

  • @dmytro5428
    @dmytro5428 Год назад

    Good afternoon, tell me how to launch esc for the first time, I can’t read the instructions, thank you.

  • @johnathancasey3485
    @johnathancasey3485 Год назад

    I'm looking for a motor I can put a cog on off a mountain bike back wheel..it's to make a windmill spin that I'm making...have you any ideas please people..I'm looking for something that will obviously be strong enough..but not spin fast.?...I'm totally stuck to be honest

  • @rchobbiesjapan2777
    @rchobbiesjapan2777 Год назад +1

    Is this still working on 6s?

  • @ralphgephart444
    @ralphgephart444 Год назад +2

    I have purchased many of the past hobbies and other brands even that particular one you have. The problem is for C rating they cannot handle High milliamp batteries and high c-rated batteries. Especially if you're running two three cells to get to a six cell you double your C rating I use mine for over a year until I did that with two 100 C batteries and it smoked it instantly.

    • @kamilthegreat2834
      @kamilthegreat2834 10 месяцев назад

      A higher c rating would actually be what saves an ESC. Low c rating batteries won't be able to keep up with the demand and that's when the ESC fries. The voltage dip is what kills these things. I don't know what you did but the higher c rating is actually good for your ESC.

  • @Ryndel
    @Ryndel 2 года назад

    Great video thanks!
    I have a surpass hobby 2200kv with blx185, do you think the motor can handle 6s? 16t pinion in my senton 6s v3. Thank you

  • @bashaz8559
    @bashaz8559 Год назад

    Mine burner after 6 months
    Good luck

  • @adopancia7445
    @adopancia7445 3 года назад +2

    Nice! So beside the water problem Surpass 150A worked ok on 6S, right...?

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад +1

      yes, the only other thing to beware of is over-gearing. I think on 6S, on road the motor should be 2500kv or less, and off road it should be 2000kv or less. I cant remember the exact numbers but they are in that ball park. I have the combo in an 8th scale buggy and I have an ESC in the redcat shredder.. been running them for a couple of months with no issues.. also those KV values may be different depending on your vehicle those specs are for an 1/8th scale buggy.

    • @SlickTrickRC
      @SlickTrickRC 2 года назад

      @@williamblanks8500 I have a shredder I highly modified. Earthquake motor mount fits in it nicely. Was curious if I could use this esc in my shredder..I may buy the combo pack like you did. Curious if the esc help up.after the making of this video. Ty for making the video. 👍😎

  • @mrfantastic6092
    @mrfantastic6092 7 месяцев назад

    what rc car is that looks like the wltoys 104001

  • @SlickTrickRC
    @SlickTrickRC 2 года назад +1

    I live in the north east. Northern Newhampshire. I think hobbywing is what I'll get. Just not sure which one. So many to choose from..I think stock shredder motor is only like 1300 kv. It's way to slow. I have a 2200 kv from an arrma talion.. I think.i need a esc motor combo like that. Tough choice.

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад +1

      I would go with a quality 150 amp ESC, this surpass hobby ESC is fine as long as you don't get the cooling fan wet, I have been running 2 of them for a while now.. This is mainly for people who need a cheap backup or trying to keep costs as low as possible.. it will work..
      I have seen a lot of people recommend Hobby Wing, those are great too as long as you don't overgear the motor..
      Another quality ESC I haven't seen too many people here mention is the spektrum firma 150amp esc,my local RC shop recommends those.. it all comes down to budget really, you can buy 2 Surpass Hobby ESCs for the price of 1 spektrum or Hobby WIng.. but you get what you pay for..

    • @SlickTrickRC
      @SlickTrickRC 2 года назад

      @@williamblanks8500 I have a mt8e upgraded to 6s with a 150 Amp hobbywing. I think the box 150 Amp will be my choice. I'm not a fan of these new spectrum electronics. Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your experience. I have a program box that will work with the box esc..so I may go that way. Or I may just save my money and buy a new arrma Kraton.. that's what I want. Even used there pricey.

  • @conwaywebb8686
    @conwaywebb8686 2 года назад +2

    You can use Clear fingernail polish and paint your board in your receiver and it will make it waterproof put thick coats

  • @mostlyharmless7147
    @mostlyharmless7147 3 года назад +4

    Ive watched two previous videos where they mention wet conditions before the esc blows and was thinking the same thing

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад

      yes, from my testing and from the people I have spoken with so far the only weaknesses are water to the esc cooling fan, and over gearing.. and without the esc fan I literally submerged the buggy (not on purpose) but the motor and esc held up fine.

    • @rcaddictgarage
      @rcaddictgarage 3 года назад +2

      @@williamblanks8500 maybe everyone should run a external fan.. That way if it does short out just the fan dies and doesnt take out the esc with it..
      Deff over gearing is no bueno.. On top of that they mass produce these super fast so the quality control isnt gonna be great. Higher rate of bad esc's gonna be out there

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад +1

      @@rcaddictgarage I don't really think the fan is a problem it just depends on weather conditions, if its wet outside remove the fan and splash the water every once in a while to cool the esc.. if its hot and dry put the fan back and and let it roar away lol. And I agree there could be a problem with quality control, and I honestly thought that was the problem in the beginning, but the more I have looked into it and the more people I ask, most of them, not all of them, either got it wet or they were over geared. and I think it has a lot to do with the way they have written the manual its not real easy to understand, especially for people that are new to the hobby

    • @rcaddictgarage
      @rcaddictgarage 3 года назад +1

      @@williamblanks8500 oh ok i get it. At first i thought that you were saying that the way they wired the circuitry of the esc & the fan, that was the cause of the esc blowing(when the fan got wet) took out the esc because the way it was wired.. But i get ot now thanks.

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад +1

      @@rcaddictgarage right, the problem is the esc itself is pretty much water tight, but the esc fan is completely exposed, when the fan gets wet it starts to act crazy, blowing uncontrollably and eventually it short circuits the ESC, sorry I didn't do a better job of explaining it in the video..

  • @Itsadrian-eq6jj
    @Itsadrian-eq6jj Год назад

    what’s your top speed with that brushless system

  • @ciprian107
    @ciprian107 2 года назад +1

    i converted my road bike into electric bike using this ESC and 6384 motor 120 kv 4800w ... 6s 50c battery and the ESC is not even warm.

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад +1

      That’s awesome to hear.. I have also had pretty good luck with this ESC so far.. As long as you check temps and don’t get the fan wet all should be well..

  • @franciscoduran3688
    @franciscoduran3688 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video. I bougth two surpass hobby motors and ESCs this year before you uploaded this video. Other parts of my cars have been broken, so I haven´t experienced such a mess with the fan. My bigger 3674 2250KV motor says max 21 V. Would it still run with 6 S? I tried only 5S until my differential broke :/

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад

      I lost the paper that came with the ESC but it tells u the max kv for motor size and its different for on road vs off road.. I can't remember the exact specs but I think it's 2500kv on road and 2000kv off road for a 4076.. a 3074 draws less power so a 2250kv should be fine.. Being rated at only 21v im pretty sure it will work but I can't can't for sure for how long.. I have known people to run 4S on 2s motors in drag racing but that's only for a few seconds at a time.. continuously it could start a fire.. The only way to know for sure is to try it out and keep a eye on the temps after each pass for at least the first 2 battery cycles..

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад

      Also something to keep in mind is that each motor will have its own power band.. Getting to that power band by using the right voltage and gearing is really what's important.. Meaning if you run it on 4s and you can get into the perfect power band then going up 6s may only cause problems..

    • @franciscoduran3688
      @franciscoduran3688 2 года назад

      @@williamblanks8500 Hello and thanks for your answers! I will try it when my new differentials are installed. This motors say max 50.000 rpm. Before buying my surpass combos (3660 on 2wd and the 3674 on 4wd) I did some simple calculations. 5*4,2V = 21 V * 2250 KV = 47.250 rpm. Another motor with maybe 25V but 1800 KV had less rpm´s. But I don´t know how this would be in practice. Gearing is a good advice. A to small pinion would be resulting in overheating by to high rpm´s. Do you mean this by the "power band". Because ideal torque/power rpm´S for this motors are unknown(?)... Thanks and have nice holidays!

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад +2

      @@franciscoduran3688 You're calculations are pretty spot on, that is the same way I get my calculations. It's hard to explain what I mean by power band, but it is the point at which the motor will accelerate the hardest and fastest, like it has perfect tuning. The best example is if you have ever driven a 2 stroke atv like a yamaha blaster.. You can make it thru all of the gears and drive it, but if you accelerate a certain way you will feel it accelerate slowly then all of a sudden it will lock in like it is pulling with full power. If you keep the throttle correct you can shift thru the gears and it will stay in that power band..
      The same is true for these RC motors, an older guy that owns the RC shop were I live first explained it to me.. You can gear a motor up and make it go faster, but it could take longer to get to that top speed and cause it to overheat.. You want to get the voltage and gearing so that you are always driving in that power band, where the motor is performing at its best level.. I hope this helps, like I said earlier Idk exactly how to put it in words..

    • @franciscoduran3688
      @franciscoduran3688 2 года назад +1

      Hi @@williamblanks8500 ! I understand what you were thinking by powerband. I just didn´t consider the gearing factor. I´ll keep it in mind with the next upgrades and rides :) Thanks!

  • @beachinrc101
    @beachinrc101 3 года назад +1

    I hate how they write out how to use on road &off &what size moter it’s confusing using the >2500 ?lower than? Idk this is one reason I get the combos but there specific for on or off so u get 1 for on road & put it in off road now your not safe to run 6s?it’s not easy that’s why i try to get something someone else has tried & had good 👍🏼 luck with ya know & ya u got to worry about gearing then 😂 but great 👍🏼 content if a vid is for info who cares u just saved me some trouble thanks bro it takes alot to put yourself out there & negative stuff don’t help just take it with grain of salt!!!lol I want to see some speed vids on that thing!!!

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад

      I have misplaced my copy of the manual, I am currently trying to get a copy and I will make a video covering this issue because I have seen a few different people having this same question. I will try to explain it the best I can without the manual. The can size (3674, 4076, etc.) of a motor, the gearing, battery voltage (4s or 6s) and the surface you are driving on all play a factor in how much power the RC will draw. This specific combo is made both for on-road and off-road, but because running off-road will draw more power a lower KV is required to stay under to the total amp draw an ESC can handle. The ESC is like a fuse in the circuit, if too much power is drawn, it will blow the ESC to try to prevent a fire in the batteries and/ or burning the whole vehicle. So the same can size can be used with the same esc considering nothing else changes (gearing, tire size, etc.) on road or off-road, but if running off road you would need a 2000KV or less, if you were to only drive on-road you would be ok running 2500kv, just because it would be easier for the tires to spin. When I get my hands on the manual again I will make the video tho and go into depth and use exact numbers so hopefully it will make it easier to understand but in the mean time I really hope this helps..

  • @AutumnsAdventure15
    @AutumnsAdventure15 5 месяцев назад +1

    They are great just stick to 4s I've had money for 3 years no issues

  • @greenwolf7083
    @greenwolf7083 2 года назад +2

    What controller do you use?

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад +1

      On the buggy I use a Traxxas TQ, on the Shredder I use the stock transmitter that came with it..

    • @greenwolf7083
      @greenwolf7083 2 года назад +1

      @@williamblanks8500 okay, thanks 😊 👍

  • @ralphgephart444
    @ralphgephart444 Год назад +1

    Also want to add you need to read the paperwork the higher KV engines pull more amperage that has a max of 7.1 so using a higher KV engine will destroy that ESC the lower KV engines don't pull as much amperage it only recommend the 3,000 at 4S and at 2500 KV at 6s

  • @JoyGadang
    @JoyGadang 3 года назад

    150a surpass, i open inside capasitor 35v, as i known it only can 4s.. correct if i wrong

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад +1

      1s means 1 Lipo cell and each cell has a max charge voltage of 4.2V..
      so a fully charged 4s(4 cells in series) Lipo would be 4 cells x4.2v=16.8V
      and a fully charged 6s Lipo would be 6 cells x 4.2v=25.2V
      A 35V capacitor is about 30% over the maximum charge of a 6s Lipo so it will be fine..
      The main things that hurt this ESC are:
      #1 getting the ESC wet without removing the cooling fan..
      #2 using a higher KV motor than recommended for your application..
      #3 Over gearing...
      almost every one of these that I have seen die is for one of those reasons..

    • @JoyGadang
      @JoyGadang 3 года назад +1

      @@williamblanks8500 thanks.. so many i need to learn now

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад

      @@JoyGadang you're welcome, if you have any more questions let me know..

  • @shonuff7943
    @shonuff7943 2 года назад +1

    How do you calibrate that esc

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад

      With a programming card..
      www.amazon.com/dp/B08HZ23KNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_910GZ0Q484PPND3Q27JZ

  • @dustinplee5067
    @dustinplee5067 2 года назад +1

    Can you please kindly tell me if this motor is a 5mm is a 5mm SURPASS HOBBY Waterproof Brushless 3660 3300KV Motor for 1/10

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад

      This is a 5mm shaft, but this is a 4076(can size) 2000kv motor.
      Gool Rc and Surpass Hobby are pretty much the same stuff from what I've seen so far.. This link is to a Gool Rc 3660 3300KV Motor + 60amp ESC combo.. ebay.to/3x5W5GX
      Hope this helps..

    • @pcwarriorgamer2238
      @pcwarriorgamer2238 2 года назад

      @@williamblanks8500 Did the ESC come with two connectors on it or just one connector

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад

      @@pcwarriorgamer2238 it came with 2

  • @nts323
    @nts323 2 года назад

    Can I run a castle creations 2200kv on this esc

  • @robertfournier7050
    @robertfournier7050 Год назад +1

    You need to add a dummy plug to protect against a short.just put some Silicon in your plugs.

  • @fabfullthrottle2282
    @fabfullthrottle2282 Год назад

    Il y a encore moins cher. Queen hobby 60 euros le combo avec ventilateur moteur et carte de programmation. J'en ai 3 et franchement ça tiens la route !

  • @bmj571
    @bmj571 Год назад

    Genius.... it does it!

  • @rcaddictgarage
    @rcaddictgarage 3 года назад +3

    I would probally just stick to running these on 4s lipo just to be on the safe side.

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад +1

      6s is ok as long as you use the proper KV for what you are trying to do and you don't over gear, each motor has a specific power band and if you can get the voltage and gearing just right for the surface you are driving on, it can actually run cooler on 6s than on 4s simply because more volts = less amp draw which also means longer drive times before you need to charge or switch batteries because battery capacity is measured in Amp Hours..

    • @rcaddictgarage
      @rcaddictgarage 2 года назад

      @@williamblanks8500 Also depends on how heavy the rc is. The lighter it is the more you can push the systems.

  • @jeromewiburnjr1360
    @jeromewiburnjr1360 Год назад +1

    I wouldn't ride my car in the water anyway I use mine on carpet and Street mostly Street 124019 using the same ESC 120a and 150a

  • @luckkade4041
    @luckkade4041 2 года назад +1

    This esc isn't water proof, just splash proof only. If you play away from water, it's tough.

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад

      If you take the fan off it’s water proof.. I literally drove it under water in this video bro..

  • @kapitaenblaubeere
    @kapitaenblaubeere 2 года назад

    I want to use this with a 270kv motor for my longboard with 6S and 60A. Do you think it should work?

    • @fbiagent3399
      @fbiagent3399 2 года назад +1

      Nope Not At All.. You Need A Esc Made Specifically For Eskate.. And Most Electric Skateboards Run of A 10s or 12s battery pack.. I know this because I've built 3 Electric skateboards myself And Yah You definitely can't cheap out on the electronics

    • @DataLog
      @DataLog 2 года назад

      @@fbiagent3399 Any recommendations?
      I'm using 6384 120KV 4000W motor and I'm really struggling with ESC. Can't find anything. Also, most people I see on youtube are severely underpowering the motor. I'm pretty familiar with electronics, but this is my first time searching for a proper sensored ESC. I want to buy it, but it seems to me that I will have to make my own... Which is pain in the ass.

    • @fbiagent3399
      @fbiagent3399 2 года назад

      @@DataLog with motors that big unfortunately no you'd need A decently expensive esc..

    • @DataLog
      @DataLog 2 года назад

      @@fbiagent3399 I will have to get one. I still don't understand why. Mosfets shouldn't be that expensive...

  • @LuisBermudez69
    @LuisBermudez69 2 года назад +1

    Dude what the heck you don't clean your RC cars or your house

  • @marquezpradoluisjavier7754
    @marquezpradoluisjavier7754 2 года назад +1

    😸✌🏻

  • @bashaz8559
    @bashaz8559 Год назад

    Motors are good though

  • @jasondmoody78
    @jasondmoody78 2 года назад +1

    Why go ppl drive in water. Rc cars may be water resistant, but they will never be waterproof. Metal and electronics parts don't last in the wet, smh

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад +1

      the tires too lol, especially if you don't block off the air holes like I didn't.. I didn't submerge it on purpose, but it did prove my point that the fan getting wet was the issue and not the esc itself.. I didn't get the 1st one wet on purpose either, I ran thru a water puddle after loosing control of the car, but it was my fault because I should have waited til it dried up outside.. but u know sometimes when you wanna drive you just wanna drive..

  • @garylujan777
    @garylujan777 2 года назад

    Bash on the dirt

  • @garylujan777
    @garylujan777 2 года назад +2

    Stay out of the water lol

  • @LuisBermudez69
    @LuisBermudez69 2 года назад +1

    And why you using it without the fan are you crazy it is a reason why have some fun for makeup come on dude lol

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  2 года назад +2

      If you actually payed attention to the video instead of the dirt on RC car that just came off of a dirt road then maybe u would understand bro.. the point was to show the problem with the ESC shorting out is in the fan getting wet and people not reading the instructions.. By taking the fans off it proves the problem isn’t overheating causing it to fail.. by driving thru the water it proves getting it wet isn’t causing it to fail.. the fan getting wet and shorting out is what causes it to fail.. if it’s wet outside and you want to run it, then take the fans off and it will be ok.. if it’s really hot out and dry out the fans back on and it will be ok.. hope this helps explain it better..

  • @k9chance250
    @k9chance250 3 года назад +2

    fan or not not worth it save go Hobbywing

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад

      Hobbywing is definitely quality, but this is the only esc that I have seen survive being completely submerged, even if only for a few seconds. I seen a lot of people trashing these ESCs in videos so I wanted to try it for myself, It does have that issue which isn't a small one but it has held up and I have pushed it pretty hard trying to make it break but it wont, and its only half the price..

    • @twoteccs2twoteccs287
      @twoteccs2twoteccs287 3 года назад

      I never go in water burned one of those out in like 5 mins of run

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад

      @@twoteccs2twoteccs287 Which motor were u using it with? The motor and the gearing have a lot to do with causing heat in any ESC.

    • @twoteccs2twoteccs287
      @twoteccs2twoteccs287 3 года назад

      I use the motor that came with it it was a combo

    • @twoteccs2twoteccs287
      @twoteccs2twoteccs287 3 года назад

      A 3674. 2650 kv I still got the motor

  • @forstreaming4210
    @forstreaming4210 3 года назад +1

    Please Please stop moving your camera so much... please!!!

    • @williamblanks8500
      @williamblanks8500  3 года назад

      sorry about that, this was one of the first videos i made and i really didn't have the right equipment but i wanted to get the info out so its not perfect but it is there, i'm in the process of upgrading to better equipment right now, that's why i haven't uploaded in a couple of weeks but hopefully you will stay tuned as it gets better.